I added a 5000 litre Jojo to my "Rand Water" system April 2022, when the local (fibre/concrete) pipes started popping in Pretoria East. 5000 Litres is fine for a week. I also have filters, particle filter on the way in, carbon filter and water softener on the way out. I use an electric water float and electric "tap" to feed water in - which allows me to adjust the water level in the Jojo by raising/lowering the float switch. It is also full pressure so agitates the water in the Jojo. I just have one "emergency" by-pass tap between Rand Water and the House. There is a one-way valve on the house side and another in the municipal water meter. I also have a Solar/Victron/Battery system that keeps my house supplied with power. One possible upgrade is a UV filter light on the house water, and maybe an array of pressure sensors so I can "see" what is happening. We have had multiple pipe bursts in our area, as well as Rand Water failures - none have caused us an issue. Oh, and I can safely (as in "tested") feed in Bore Hole water with its separate on/off float switch. Wife really loves me!
A small addition, if the slab where the tank is located is exposed to rain, placing the motor on a small raised plinth, 20mm to 30mm will keep it out of the water if the area floods.
@@craigfrancisy24u JOJO Tank 2400Litre and Pump kit is going to be around R4100, The tank to pump connector kit is R350- R500 (depends on which you get). The Brass fittings are going to be around R1700, including a length of 22mm copper. 2nd option is rather use copper joints as its cheaper second option, still pricey but also more effective. 3rd option is to go all PVC fittings and polycop fittings. Which can leak over time, along with cracking from climate heat or the pressure and overtightening. Plumber is going to cost you a call out fee before any work is started. So R350-R450 call out. And then his hourly rate or budget cost for the job. A project like this depending where your mains is aswell, hiring a plumber is going to probably cost you shy of around R6000 - R8500 all in all.
Thanks - a great help. Just a thought: If both ball valves are open, and the main supply is not supplying, it seems there is a chance that after using a tap, then turning it off, the pump will continue to circulate the water back into the tank? Perhaps the non-return valve on the Main Supply should be after the Tee to the tank?
Just seen this video and have the same question. Looks like an additional NRV needs to ne added after the T piece to the tank? Did you manage to find a solution to this John?
@@TheJuryIsOut Yes, That is what I did. Now I can leave both valves open, so that if I am not at home, and the main water supply is not supplying, then the water from the tank will automatically be used, and my family members do not have to go outside and fiddle with valves. When I am home, I close the main supply to the house, so that the water in the tank is used while it is kept topped up from the main supply. I cannot post a photo here, which would help you.
@@johnfrancis2227 Thanks John. If you shut off the mains to the house then the tank won't be fed as well? Would be great to see your layout? I sketched something out as well. Email?
My setup.... I can leave all valves open. If the mains fail water is fed from the tank. If mains work then water will be used from the mains first until the pressure drops/stops. At least that's my theory. You are welcome to poke holes into it. Much better than trial and error.
I just wonder, why no water filter is used for both lines? Filling the water tank without a water filter will bring sediments into the tank. Do I miss something?
The problem with underground tanks is the risk of contamination, where rain water or any other run off can make its way into your tank, so ensure your inspection hatch and tank breather or and other openings are well above the ground and properly sealed.
1 question plz i am getting problems with my automatic, which is running continuously without any leakage..and when the main water supply open to fill the reservoir tank or even i open my water supply main tap the automatic stay on . What should i do please??? Do you think i must change the non returning valve??
How do I contact builders for in-house installation. I already have the tank installation but not happy with it. Can someone come through for inspection and servicing?
Nice I've done a few tank installations myself and I recommend doing them like this but I don't need to turn off the tank main that falls the tank when I'm using the main water supply. That way the tank is always kept full.
I like your idea. However I cannot figure out the following.... If the supply side SV is left open and the main water pressure drops activating the pump won't tank water be pumped back into the tank? By Kevin shutting off the main SV water cannot travel to the tank. Bit of a bind as one has to manually turn off the main SV each time there's no municipal supply. Your thoughts...?
@@TheJuryIsOut This could be negated by installing a one way valve with upward flow just above the left ball valve. This will prevent pump water from flowing down through the mains valve and back up the tank valve. A possible flow loss will occur when running on municipal water since it's flowing through two one way valves, but probably not enough to notice.
yes you can, the issue here will be how much automatización do you want. Specially since the pump is not always running (pressure fluctuation for min is the turn on). So its not efficient if you live a powered generator always connected and only the pump, find one of those automatic generator or use a control module beside the generator. Pump do require different power drain when starting, so be sure your generator satisfy the startup Wattage in requirement. (small pumps, 0.5hp, uses around 700-900W but for the startup need almost the double, so be carefully with this specification, you can even combine a small generator with batteries to compense peaks and a more stable system). If you want a continuous system using a generator is probably not a good idea, as i said, posible and the worst part is the efficiency. If you have power loss issues is better to have a battery system or just use the gravity: Put the tank at a higher point and use the pump to fill the tank initially, then just let gravity do their job (this also helps with the small generator issue, no controlator need it and no pressure system so you can save money on the pump)
This system as you build it can’t work: the check valve coming out of the pump will close once the pump stops keeping the house pressurized and causing the pressure from the pump to the check valve to drop setting the pump on an endless start stop cycle. Ask me how I know? That check valve has to be on the tank side of the pump or the pressure switch needs to be moved from the pump to the pipe after the check valve.
Hello sir, I just watched your video. Is it possible to have the diagram in drawing please. I am in Africa and this is a very good solution for us. Cordially
It depends how you set it up. The lever ball valves are accommodated so you can choose between municipal and jojo . Dab pumps are a good option because it's power efficiency is exellent and invertor friendly.
Install line in through house wall pump in house and line out again through wall. There must be a plug nearby. We installed it in our laundry room. Great thing is if there os any taps leaking you will know it immediately when pump switch on and you are not using water .
@@tsivanynojerryjohn6230 it must tee off from the main water supply (doing this leaves your existing line to continue normal supply to your home) and by using a non return valve (before you tee off) the water must move into the tank and will only stop filling the tank when full and float is activated. make sure the non return valve is on the supply side before you tee off. if not you will be supplying the neighborhood with water.
So if there is a power outage you switch to the municipal supply (because the pump wont be working), so you are then relying on the municipal pressure. That's why he set it up for the bypass option. If you have a power and a water outage at the same time, you are in trouble and should probably move to another municipality 🙂
@@MrDaveCoetzee this clearly says emergency which could imply both power and municipal supply are down. In that case you would need a generator to power the pump and you could have water pressure until your tank is empty.
JOJO Tank 2400Litre and Pump kit is going to be around R4100, The tank to pump connector kit is R350- R500 (depends on which you get). The Brass fittings are going to be around R1700, including a length of 22mm copper. 2nd option is rather use copper joints as its cheaper second option, still pricey but also more effective. 3rd option is to go all PVC fittings and polycop fittings. Which can leak over time, along with cracking from climate heat or the pressure and overtightening. Plumber is going to cost you a call out fee before any work is started. So R350-R450 call out. And then his hourly rate or budget cost for the job. A project like this depending where your mains is aswell, hiring a plumber is going to probably cost you shy of around R6000 - R8500 all in all.
I added a 5000 litre Jojo to my "Rand Water" system April 2022, when the local (fibre/concrete) pipes started popping in Pretoria East. 5000 Litres is fine for a week. I also have filters, particle filter on the way in, carbon filter and water softener on the way out. I use an electric water float and electric "tap" to feed water in - which allows me to adjust the water level in the Jojo by raising/lowering the float switch. It is also full pressure so agitates the water in the Jojo. I just have one "emergency" by-pass tap between Rand Water and the House. There is a one-way valve on the house side and another in the municipal water meter.
I also have a Solar/Victron/Battery system that keeps my house supplied with power.
One possible upgrade is a UV filter light on the house water, and maybe an array of pressure sensors so I can "see" what is happening.
We have had multiple pipe bursts in our area, as well as Rand Water failures - none have caused us an issue.
Oh, and I can safely (as in "tested") feed in Bore Hole water with its separate on/off float switch.
Wife really loves me!
A small addition, if the slab where the tank is located is exposed to rain, placing the motor on a small raised plinth, 20mm to 30mm will keep it out of the water if the area floods.
the construction of the pump allows for that all you need is the cover - the pump is not completely waterproof
You should add a bladder tank to that setup. Saves your pump from turning on everytime you open a tap.
Hello. Thank you for your advice. At what height should I place the bladder tank? And what size bladder tank do you suggest?
After the water issues in KZN this easter, guess who just bought all this online at your store. Thanks guys.
Lol. Same her
So how much did it cost
@@craigfrancisy24u JOJO Tank 2400Litre and Pump kit is going to be around R4100, The tank to pump connector kit is R350- R500 (depends on which you get). The Brass fittings are going to be around R1700, including a length of 22mm copper. 2nd option is rather use copper joints as its cheaper second option, still pricey but also more effective.
3rd option is to go all PVC fittings and polycop fittings. Which can leak over time, along with cracking from climate heat or the pressure and overtightening.
Plumber is going to cost you a call out fee before any work is started. So R350-R450 call out. And then his hourly rate or budget cost for the job.
A project like this depending where your mains is aswell, hiring a plumber is going to probably cost you shy of around R6000 - R8500 all in all.
My tank always looses water to the pipes even though i put the non return valve
Very good explanation my guy
Thanks - a great help. Just a thought: If both ball valves are open, and the main supply is not supplying, it seems there is a chance that after using a tap, then turning it off, the pump will continue to circulate the water back into the tank? Perhaps the non-return valve on the Main Supply should be after the Tee to the tank?
Just seen this video and have the same question. Looks like an additional NRV needs to ne added after the T piece to the tank? Did you manage to find a solution to this John?
@@TheJuryIsOut Yes, That is what I did. Now I can leave both valves open, so that if I am not at home, and the main water supply is not supplying, then the water from the tank will automatically be used, and my family members do not have to go outside and fiddle with valves. When I am home, I close the main supply to the house, so that the water in the tank is used while it is kept topped up from the main supply. I cannot post a photo here, which would help you.
@@johnfrancis2227 Thanks John. If you shut off the mains to the house then the tank won't be fed as well? Would be great to see your layout? I sketched something out as well. Email?
My setup.... I can leave all valves open. If the mains fail water is fed from the tank. If mains work then water will be used from the mains first until the pressure drops/stops. At least that's my theory. You are welcome to poke holes into it. Much better than trial and error.
I just wonder, why no water filter is used for both lines? Filling the water tank without a water filter will bring sediments into the tank. Do I miss something?
How much does a plumber charges to install the pump
In the USA here. Our issue is power loss. Any thoughts on a DC pump powered by battery with solar charging?
You should have a standby back up generator if you’re going this far anyway anyways
@@ericchan6628 We looked into that but it's just crazy expensive. With the new modular battery backups, it's cheaper and quieter in the long run.
Can I install the pump in the house to prevent it from theft
Better to build a lockable enclosure
What about pvc connections & pipes because of copper theft
Use speedfit
Is it advisable to bury just the tank underground if space is an issue? All the pumps can be above ground.
There are underground water tanks😊
The problem with underground tanks is the risk of contamination, where rain water or any other run off can make its way into your tank, so ensure your inspection hatch and tank breather or and other openings are well above the ground and properly sealed.
Hi.
Could yoh show a list of things needed aswell as their specific prices.
Thank you.
We have a green Jojo tank and we need a pump plumbed in
1 question plz i am getting problems with my automatic, which is running continuously without any leakage..and when the main water supply open to fill the reservoir tank or even i open my water supply main tap the automatic stay on .
What should i do please???
Do you think i must change the non returning valve??
Check your pressure switch, likely faulty or set too high
Thanks. I'm on well water, and looking for options if there's a drought.
Hi I'm in an apartment on fourth flow what would you suggest for back up water
How do I contact builders for in-house installation. I already have the tank installation but not happy with it. Can someone come through for inspection and servicing?
If you don't have water coming in and you are depleting your tank, how do you deal with the resulting vacuum?
The pump have a priming button on it that works. When you refill the tank
Nice I've done a few tank installations myself and I recommend doing them like this but I don't need to turn off the tank main that falls the tank when I'm using the main water supply. That way the tank is always kept full.
100s boss
Where are you based? I need a quote for a tank installation. Pls share your contacts. Thanks
I like your idea. However I cannot figure out the following.... If the supply side SV is left open and the main water pressure drops activating the pump won't tank water be pumped back into the tank? By Kevin shutting off the main SV water cannot travel to the tank. Bit of a bind as one has to manually turn off the main SV each time there's no municipal supply. Your thoughts...?
@@TheJuryIsOut This could be negated by installing a one way valve with upward flow just above the left ball valve. This will prevent pump water from flowing down through the mains valve and back up the tank valve. A possible flow loss will occur when running on municipal water since it's flowing through two one way valves, but probably not enough to notice.
@@Sheldon777 thanks for taking the time to respond. This is what I eventually ended up doing and your point is noted. Stay well.
Can I use the small generator for the pump
yes you can, the issue here will be how much automatización do you want. Specially since the pump is not always running (pressure fluctuation for min is the turn on). So its not efficient if you live a powered generator always connected and only the pump, find one of those automatic generator or use a control module beside the generator. Pump do require different power drain when starting, so be sure your generator satisfy the startup Wattage in requirement. (small pumps, 0.5hp, uses around 700-900W but for the startup need almost the double, so be carefully with this specification, you can even combine a small generator with batteries to compense peaks and a more stable system).
If you want a continuous system using a generator is probably not a good idea, as i said, posible and the worst part is the efficiency. If you have power loss issues is better to have a battery system or just use the gravity: Put the tank at a higher point and use the pump to fill the tank initially, then just let gravity do their job (this also helps with the small generator issue, no controlator need it and no pressure system so you can save money on the pump)
This system as you build it can’t work: the check valve coming out of the pump will close once the pump stops keeping the house pressurized and causing the pressure from the pump to the check valve to drop setting the pump on an endless start stop cycle. Ask me how I know?
That check valve has to be on the tank side of the pump or the pressure switch needs to be moved from the pump to the pipe after the check valve.
How did you fix it?
What’s the equivalent of American Tank? and the size of a pump?
How much would you such me to install?
Hello sir, I just watched your video. Is it possible to have the diagram in drawing please. I am in Africa and this is a very good solution for us. Cordially
He’s in Africa too, he’s demonstrating this in South Africa
Does the pump run when it's on normal supply???
It depends how you set it up. The lever ball valves are accommodated so you can choose between municipal and jojo . Dab pumps are a good option because it's power efficiency is exellent and invertor friendly.
@@zakariyahjeewa7565 Okay Thank you🙏
I am in Nelspruit. I need builders warehouse services. Pls advise.
How can I secure the pump from theft?
Install line in through house wall pump in house and line out again through wall. There must be a plug nearby. We installed it in our laundry room. Great thing is if there os any taps leaking you will know it immediately when pump switch on and you are not using water .
Our storage tank is always filled with ugly green algae. How do I prevent algae growth in my tank? We don’t have jojo tank in he Philippines
Dose with chlorine every 2 weeks
i dont understand why they didnt use ppr here?
is it safe for that water to sit in that tank, does it 100% circulate so it does not go bad?
Can a water pump work without electricity?
Definitely not, but you could add a backup generator.
Very informative
Any filters on the system
Hi 👋 how can I get builders warehouse services for installation in Pietermaritzburg.
Why not just go to your closest builders warehouse store, they do exist in Maritzburg
Super helpful.. thanks a lot.
this was to be think..excellent.
last put concrete caged to protect from thieves, welcome to SA.
What if the tank is far from the main water supply line.
It's still possible... You'll just need to alter the the main line a little bit
@@nduvhomamidze992 Waar
same procedure the issue in the video is the same
I want to ask a question oo. is it that, from main water, the water must enter poly tank first before ??
@@tsivanynojerryjohn6230 it must tee off from the main water supply (doing this leaves your existing line to continue normal supply to your home) and by using a non return valve (before you tee off) the water must move into the tank and will only stop filling the tank when full and float is activated. make sure the non return valve is on the supply side before you tee off. if not you will be supplying the neighborhood with water.
Good day, I have installed a jojo tank and pump, 0,37kw. The pressure is too high,how do I reduce?
What happens if power outerage
So if there is a power outage you switch to the municipal supply (because the pump wont be working), so you are then relying on the municipal pressure. That's why he set it up for the bypass option. If you have a power and a water outage at the same time, you are in trouble and should probably move to another municipality 🙂
@@MrDaveCoetzee this clearly says emergency which could imply both power and municipal supply are down. In that case you would need a generator to power the pump and you could have water pressure until your tank is empty.
@@MrDaveCoetzee theres away out work it out using the weight of the water 750kgs=pressure work it out
one more nrv -tank-nrv-to your home
@@MrDaveCoetzee that means most households on the KZN North Coast would need to relocate thanks to our very efficient Ethekweni Metro.
Wow good and easy 👌
Sir; what type of water pump is that one? meaning, How many PSI/hr? thanks
Respectfully;
Andy
What is the estimated cost
JOJO Tank 2400Litre and Pump kit is going to be around R4100, The tank to pump connector kit is R350- R500 (depends on which you get). The Brass fittings are going to be around R1700, including a length of 22mm copper. 2nd option is rather use copper joints as its cheaper second option, still pricey but also more effective.
3rd option is to go all PVC fittings and polycop fittings. Which can leak over time, along with cracking from climate heat or the pressure and overtightening.
Plumber is going to cost you a call out fee before any work is started. So R350-R450 call out. And then his hourly rate or budget cost for the job.
A project like this depending where your mains is aswell, hiring a plumber is going to probably cost you shy of around R6000 - R8500 all in all.
Thanks alot👍👍👍
NICE!!!
Beautiful
Is it too hard to answer the people who have questions??
Nice
We are professional manufacturers of HDPE large diameter spiral extrusion lines.
Pump
Ok
Hi
It’s a shame a whole accent is connected with hate because I have always loved the ‘Saffa’ accent 😊
Mm your speaking Chinese speak English