I am a homeowner with a day job who does not do anything construction related for a living. That being said I am working on framing out my basement and Bought this ruclips.net/user/postUgkxHQsUrwNr5GQrnx9V4xDdUr56qxwuiBHt gun. I have done a few walls already, have probably shot a couple hundred nails through this thing and have yet to have a misfire. It works awesome, good depth on every nail if you have your compressor set right. My literal only complaint is that it is a bit heavy and my arm can get a little tired especially whrn I am nailing at odd angles. That being said I am super happy with it and would buy it again. Hoping the old girl allows me to get my whole basement finished out!
You've already messed up. The drip edge of the rake or gable end should go over top of the felt so that any wind driven rain that got under the shingle would stay on top of the felt. The way you did it, the rain would go between the felt and the drip edge and right onto the osb and cause it to rot. The drip edge at the bottom or fascia is correct as the felt would go over top of it.
@@pjballs69, at the fascia (gutter) the drip edge goes under the felt so that any water that possibly got under the shingles higher up on the roof will run down the felt and into the gutter. If the drip edge is over top of the felt the water would be able to run under the drip edge and rot the edge of your sheathing. Along the rake edge the drip edge goes over the felt so that any rain that get blown under the shingles will go across the drip edge and onto the felt.
Don’t know why ‘experts’ is in apostrophe but i can read English pretty well. Instructions on shingle packaging and manufacturers website all say the underlayment goes first. Then the dripedge. Also says failure to properly install may void warranty. But I’m guessing you and these guys know more than the shingle manufacturers, huh?
I was thinking the same thing. Im not a roofer but I done it before and I will be doing it again in a few days. Im watching roofing videos to refresh my mind on how to do it. And I notice right away that he did it wrong because if water comes from the side it will get under the felt and it will get on the wood.
@@johnshayter5035 he is not wrong btw. If you have seen it done differently or you have heard someone say it is done differently, they are not installing roof systems correctly
Another thing I have found in roofs in general is the way that so many people seem to have serious difficulty in the concept of water running DOWNHILL and sometimes possibly getting blown sideways in high winds. So many times I have worked on gutters or even just cleaning them out and discover that whoever installed them made the downspout the high point. ????????
You are absolutely right and he also the way he 45 the corners on that drip edge it's kind of suck .. you wrap the eve portion and then leave it square and then 45 The rake drip edge then when you look up at it from the ground you got a pretty straight 45° angle line and you should nail the drip edge on a staggered pattern for wind resistance and you should always use a starter on your ridge caps whether it be just straight to the deck or on top of ridge vent you still should use a starter on the first one so that you have a tar line holding the shingle down and if you don't have a starter you can run a beat of car knock underneath the first cap and that will hold it down wind resistance and these are all coastal protocols that I'm using which is what my company uses. And the last ridge cap you put on everybody put some nails in it and then caulks the nails how about just take the caulking and glue that last cap on and then you don't have no nails to worry about talking and it will not come off the rest of the roof will come off at the same time as that glued on ridge cap .. but in all fairness that's not bad for a bunch of rookies in shop class
@@drayburke4432 theres always more than one way to do it these guys dont realize you can dryin from the top down during a tear off and dry every 4 ft put board down if its steep then you never have to go up till you shingle
The drip edge on the rakes is installed incorrectly. According to the Certainteed Shingle Applicator's Manual, It should be installed over the underlayment.
@@abranplaza740 been working at GAF roofing for 20 years. Can confirm that the underlayment goes first THEN the dripedge. Any other way will mess around and void the warranty.
Only issues I saw were about the amount of nails, differing on different sides of the roof. It's good to be shooting it 6 times regardless. Also, Drip edge is installed under underlayment on eaves, over the underlayment on rakes in nearly every situation.
Is this different depending on what area of the states you live in ? It seems every state has different code for felt being above or below the drip edger on the rake.
@@bellagio88it's controversial to say the least. For every roofer that says go over you'll have another saying go under.....and of course depending on who you ask their way is right.
I LOVE THIS! My dad passed away from cancer this year and he did Construction and Home Improvement. He ran his own self employed business from his home with all the tools he bought in his life. When he died, my family members stole everything and sold it I believe as far as my family tells me. I work at a restaurant now and my cousin just offered me a job Monday to go and install four simple shingles on an already complete roof and my cousin told me to research it and understand what I am doing so I am now here watching this and already watched it as I type this. I also have to install a little rectangle thingy on a door that prevents it from SLAMMING I think so I will research that next I think. I am 23 and my name is Christian. Respect and love everyone. Thanks CCX this shit brings me back when I used to work with my dad rest his heart Amen up above. :)
No mention of the direction of the ridge cap based on predominant wind direction or if the ridge ties into another roof line. And I agree with the other comments on drip over felt on the rake edge. In my state, ice and water shield is required at the eve edge two feet pass the interior wall.
I work in roofing for more than 10 years and for different companies and every buddy wants something different this day’s most of the companies like to use ice and water shield , also the overhead on the metal drip some people like 1/4-1/2-1/3
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We do ice and water barrier on the roof edge in Minnesota. Runs 3 feet across up the edge. Protects from water leaks and ice dam build up. It's basically tar in a fruit roll-up type plastic and it's really heavy. One tube is 90 lbs. Yeah I used to be a roofer.
I was a roofer for almost 9 years. We always put the paper on before the drip edge so water that gets on the drip edge runs on the paper instead of down in the wood ?
It doesnt matter as much as you would think, ive done roofing for 5 years now and hasve seen it done both ways while working with a handfuls of different crews and companys
I noticed a couple issues. The drip edge on the rake should go over the underlayment to protect the decking. The starter strip on the rack needs to go over the starter strip on the eave.
Why so fast as though everyone on the planet can watch you fly through showing a corner edge, I litereally had to slow thevideo down to 25% and watch it 11 times to fully see what you are trying to teach. If your a professional you need to realize that you can just build a car at a billion miles an hour and expect a student to learn. If this was an actual class I would want my money back bacause you basically just flew through it like a spaceship going to lightspeed.
Another thing about the 6" cuts. If you measure shingle it's roughly 40" maybe a little less then that, make equal cuts at less then 8" no waste. 40"/full, 32",24" add the two cut offs 16" and 8" no waste. Perfect 45°
I am a Self employed Plumber with 34 year's experience. 34 year's ago I was a carpenters helper with 2.5 year's experience and I do some kitchen and bathroom renovation. Do you think I would be able to put a new roof on my home?
Thank you so much for this video. I am rebuilding an awesome shed. It is 10’x16’ with a garage door. The roof was damaged a long time ago. The shed sat for ten years with a bad roof. I completely disassembled the roof and was able to keep the drip edge pieces. I had to scab in a bunch on the trusses, and have new wood down but have never built a roof in my life. With this information I can confidently finish my roof. Thanks again.
@@horizonpointu1023 the eves should also go over. Specially depending your are, leaving the drip edge under at the eves will just result in blow offs because the underlayment will tear at the starter strip.
i’m hoping this video will help me. i’m going to install my first roof today for work, on a shed. and i’ve never done it before so i figured i would try and find a video on it, seems like you did it very well, good job!
I was taught that underlayment/felt should be on top of the eave side drip edge (like the video shows) and underlayment/felt should be UNDER the rake side of the drip edge. This is so any water on the rake side penetrating would go over the drip edge and land on the underlayment. The way this video shows with underlayment/felt on top of the rake side would cause water to reach the wood sheeting and potentially cause water damage.
I saw 2 things...drip edge should be about a finger thickness away. But I did like the use of starter strip up edges i have never done this but see the benefit
You should mention if you’re shingling in northern areas where there’s snow you need to use Wintergard on the bottom edges and also you can put that along the rake which sticks to the wood so you don’t get ice buildup under the shingles. In most places where there is winter weather if you don’t use Wintergard it will fail inspection.
Does any roofer ever remove the cellophane film covering the tar strip before nailing it down, not doing so prevents shingles from sticking to each other.
Great video. Clear, concise, no wasted time talking about unrelated crap that nobody needs to hear, no annoying background music. Great job and I'll be following your tips soon on a shed I'm building. I've shingled a house and a shed before, but it's been 15 years, so this is a great refresher. Thank you.
I am not a pro-roofer but had done a lot of roof repair over the years, also installed new a old. Every body had done differently. My solution is to prevent water from getting to the underlayment, to me there's no right way or wrong way( ..well to some degree) as long as you know what you are doing.
Well said. I was a roofer in Florida back in the days and in California they do it differently, especially the laying of the shingles and the drip edge
You don't start your shingles at the rake. To ensure you get even cuts on each rake you find center of the roof then snap a line 3" to the left and right of center giving your 6" spacing. This ensures cuts at the rakes are identical.
Jw, how come the nails are not put higher up? Wouldn't that allow the single placed above (higher up on roof) to better protect water/ice from leaking from the nails ? (due to greater overlap of nails by the shingles)
Reminds me of this goof I worked with in my 20’s. He just couldn’t understand how to sidewall shingle. We would build mock-up panels like this for him to practice on.. he never did figure it out and now he teaches high school shop class lol.. seriously.
I'm a woman and am having to install shingles because I can't afford to pay someone. At 64 I needed this quick video to even know where to start. I thought I needed roofing cement or something like that. Glad to see I don't! I had most of supplies needed given from others left overs. Thank you .wish me luck. I also don't have gable as roof is lower than roof above, sloped not flat and starts under a wide eave. No nice nail gun though so I'll be hammering and then covering each nail head with black waterproof caulk to be sure it's water resistant as best I can. My paper has lines on it and I wondered if line side is up or down. I'm guessing up ? As a guide for shingle rows?
Been doing roof for 40 years and i watched this video just to cherry pick anything at all. tough luck for me. can't find a single thing to complaint but sir , your boot need to go to the museum. looked like that boot have been worn by your great Grandpa.
I am doing a strip and replace roof. This is hard work. I hope I am doing it correct. the only question I have is it ok to use 1.5 inch roofing nails or should I be using 1.25 inch nails. Will it make a difference?
I had roof rot in my Dad's old house that was reroofed in the 90s. Seems that issue was due to drip edge being close to facia and water does not drip properly. Instead, water sucked up the backside of the drip edge. New roof contractor recommended having more space behind drip edge and facia. Seems that this video teaches roofers to make drip edge mistake? Joh security comes to mind ...
Did you rip off the plastic strips? Many roofers don't to save time, some manufacturers claim they are there for packaging but an Italian contractor told me in the 1980s that the strips must come off for the shingles to stick together once installed.
Not true. Read any of the manufacturer's instructions. The cellophane strips are not removed. They are to keep the tar strip from sticking to the shingle above when in the package. When the shingles are placed on the roof the cellophane strip is no where near the area where the shingle above bonds to the shingle below. Manufacturer's instructions trump "a guy told me" every time.
Going over the top of felt can lead to a number of problems, including increased weight on the roof, reduced ventilation, and the potential for trapped moisture between layers of felt, which can contribute to rot and decay. Why would you ever go over the top with felt??
If you are going to purchase a new always expensive roof never let it be put on with an air gun. No matter what the contractor tells you about setting the air pressure. They destroy the shingle. Problems don’t show up right away but they will show up. A lot of contractors at least in my area, which is in New England are just guys that got into it because they are exploiting the illegal alien slave trade. Like most of the contractors don’t know anything about roofing they also never know who they’re sending to your house as they sub out their jobs to the kingpin who controls the new slave trade. It’s immoral and a shame
I am a homeowner with a day job who does not do anything construction related for a living. That being said I am working on framing out my basement and Bought this ruclips.net/user/postUgkxHQsUrwNr5GQrnx9V4xDdUr56qxwuiBHt gun. I have done a few walls already, have probably shot a couple hundred nails through this thing and have yet to have a misfire. It works awesome, good depth on every nail if you have your compressor set right. My literal only complaint is that it is a bit heavy and my arm can get a little tired especially whrn I am nailing at odd angles. That being said I am super happy with it and would buy it again. Hoping the old girl allows me to get my whole basement finished out!
Florida code here . Plus try doing that in all seasonal weather conditions and a bit higher from the ground.
The rake metal goes on after the underlayment so it overlaps and makes it water tight
Nice of Hulk Hogan to drop by.
You've already messed up. The drip edge of the rake or gable end should go over top of the felt so that any wind driven rain that got under the shingle would stay on top of the felt. The way you did it, the rain would go between the felt and the drip edge and right onto the osb and cause it to rot. The drip edge at the bottom or fascia is correct as the felt would go over top of it.
Correct, that's exactly what they did...
Drip edge on top of the felt was how I was taught as well.
Felt, drip edge, flashing cement, starter strip, shingles.
@@pjballs69, at the fascia (gutter) the drip edge goes under the felt so that any water that possibly got under the shingles higher up on the roof will run down the felt and into the gutter. If the drip edge is over top of the felt the water would be able to run under the drip edge and rot the edge of your sheathing. Along the rake edge the drip edge goes over the felt so that any rain that get blown under the shingles will go across the drip edge and onto the felt.
so when re shingling a roof would you take up all the drip edge. put yoir paper down and then re drip edge ?
Came to the comments to see what all the 'experts' had to say. I was not disappointed.
Don’t know why ‘experts’ is in apostrophe but i can read English pretty well. Instructions on shingle packaging and manufacturers website all say the underlayment goes first. Then the dripedge. Also says failure to properly install may void warranty. But I’m guessing you and these guys know more than the shingle manufacturers, huh?
They're quotation mark's to imply sarcasm. 38 people got it, have a great day, hope you're well.
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Drip edge is installed on the eave first, then underlayment/ felt. The drip on rake edges is installed AFTER the underlayment.
I never did a roof before the this is what I intended to do until watching this video. Thank you for you comment which makes perfect sense to me.
I was thinking the same thing. Im not a roofer but I done it before and I will be doing it again in a few days. Im watching roofing videos to refresh my mind on how to do it. And I notice right away that he did it wrong because if water comes from the side it will get under the felt and it will get on the wood.
@@johnshayter5035 he is not wrong btw. If you have seen it done differently or you have heard someone say it is done differently, they are not installing roof systems correctly
While that’s true it’s not a huge deal either way cause of starter shingles
Another thing I have found in roofs in general is the way that so many people seem to have serious difficulty in the concept of water running DOWNHILL and sometimes possibly getting blown sideways in high winds.
So many times I have worked on gutters or even just cleaning them out and discover that whoever installed them made the downspout the high point.
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to the point, no bs intros or request to like and subscribe, just what i needed guys i appreciate it.
1/8 of an inch seriously......might as well make it even........ min of half inche so the water doesn't go back in
Your eve drip goes first. Then you install felt. Your rake drip goes over the felt. Also way to many plastic caps in the felt🤦♂️
100%
You have to tape over every cap on many job sites in florida too. Water management is very particular here.
You are absolutely right and he also the way he 45 the corners on that drip edge it's kind of suck .. you wrap the eve portion and then leave it square and then 45 The rake drip edge then when you look up at it from the ground you got a pretty straight 45° angle line and you should nail the drip edge on a staggered pattern for wind resistance and you should always use a starter on your ridge caps whether it be just straight to the deck or on top of ridge vent you still should use a starter on the first one so that you have a tar line holding the shingle down and if you don't have a starter you can run a beat of car knock underneath the first cap and that will hold it down wind resistance and these are all coastal protocols that I'm using which is what my company uses. And the last ridge cap you put on everybody put some nails in it and then caulks the nails how about just take the caulking and glue that last cap on and then you don't have no nails to worry about talking and it will not come off the rest of the roof will come off at the same time as that glued on ridge cap .. but in all fairness that's not bad for a bunch of rookies in shop class
On the gulf coast the
more nails the better
This dude is a hack . Who was taught by a hack. Eve drip on the bottom first . Then felt or ice and water. Then you metal the rake edge last.
Your felt is suppose to go under the drip edge metal along the rake/gable ends. Only time the felt goes over the drip edge is at the eaves.
Exactly, thanks for saying this. They just made starter strip ineffective . And a strong wind will blow this off.
It can go over or either, personally going over is better.
@@odst2247 drip edge is over the Underlayment and gutter apron is under Underlayment.
Wouldn't use paper use ice guard underlayment the ice build up will tear the paper and leak
@@odst2247 better at trapping water and ice UNDER the underlayment felt… which is why it should go over it.
I will no longer pay the ripoff roofing company. I will grab some Gatorade/powerade and install myself playing loud classic rock and country music 🎶
I been told to install the felt paper first and then the drip edge so wind do lift up the paper.
we dry house that sit months before we can touch them we just nail high enough to tuke eve metal under after really not that hard either
No. Felt goes over the drip edge on the eaves and under the drip edge on the rakes.
@@anchia7 i said we tuck it after shheeshhh
That's the way I was taught also.
@@drayburke4432 theres always more than one way to do it these guys dont realize you can dryin from the top down during a tear off and dry every 4 ft put board down if its steep then you never have to go up till you shingle
Great video. To the point . Drip Edge corner construct would be better had it not been sped up.
The drip edge on the rakes is installed incorrectly. According to the Certainteed Shingle Applicator's Manual, It should be installed over the underlayment.
here in south west florida we set the dripedge after the underlayment
@@abranplaza740 been working at GAF roofing for 20 years. Can confirm that the underlayment goes first THEN the dripedge. Any other way will mess around and void the warranty.
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Only issues I saw were about the amount of nails, differing on different sides of the roof. It's good to be shooting it 6 times regardless. Also, Drip edge is installed under underlayment on eaves, over the underlayment on rakes in nearly every situation.
Investment is felt?
Yeah saving the big bucks skimping on the nails on the "leeward side" - Ridiculous!
Is this different depending on what area of the states you live in ? It seems every state has different code for felt being above or below the drip edger on the rake.
@@never2354really….? One (more) nail per shingle. That’s going to make the difference…?
@@bellagio88it's controversial to say the least. For every roofer that says go over you'll have another saying go under.....and of course depending on who you ask their way is right.
I LOVE THIS! My dad passed away from cancer this year and he did Construction and Home Improvement. He ran his own self employed business from his home with all the tools he bought in his life. When he died, my family members stole everything and sold it I believe as far as my family tells me. I work at a restaurant now and my cousin just offered me a job Monday to go and install four simple shingles on an already complete roof and my cousin told me to research it and understand what I am doing so I am now here watching this and already watched it as I type this. I also have to install a little rectangle thingy on a door that prevents it from SLAMMING I think so I will research that next I think. I am 23 and my name is Christian. Respect and love everyone. Thanks CCX this shit brings me back when I used to work with my dad rest his heart Amen up above. :)
Gutter apron or bottom drip edge should be installed first......than underlayment....than the gable drip edge......come on kids....
Quit being so arrogant.
I’ve been told drip edge after felt to avoid water running along drip edge under felt and onto wood?
If you give it a 1 inch overhang how is the water going to get get to the drip edge on the rakes. Doesn't happen.
No mention of the direction of the ridge cap based on predominant wind direction or if the ridge ties into another roof line. And I agree with the other comments on drip over felt on the rake edge. In my state, ice and water shield is required at the eve edge two feet pass the interior wall.
Always paper first,
drip edge,
Shingles... 😏
I work in roofing for more than 10 years and for different companies and every buddy wants something different this day’s most of the companies like to use ice and water shield , also the overhead on the metal drip some people like 1/4-1/2-1/3
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No, and neither will you, because it's not real
We do ice and water barrier on the roof edge in Minnesota. Runs 3 feet across up the edge. Protects from water leaks and ice dam build up. It's basically tar in a fruit roll-up type plastic and it's really heavy. One tube is 90 lbs. Yeah I used to be a roofer.
So ice and water barrier replaces the felt on the bottom edges and then felt on top of that?
It needs to be installed 24inches within the exterior insulated wall. Just fyi bruh
Same as indiana, we use those also in the dormers
I used to deck and paper roof houses unload and load shingles
Also around sky lights
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Wait till you have to 5000sq ft then its a whole new learning.
I was a roofer for almost 9 years. We always put the paper on before the drip edge so water that gets on the drip edge runs on the paper instead of down in the wood ?
Depends if your using hangover or not.
gotta do drip first, causing a negative lap with the paper if you do metal second
@@morgancampbell7316 do NOT do drip first 🤦♂️ that’s how you get water and ice trapped underneath your underlayment and on your sheathing…
The Florida building code states the underlayment always goes under the drip edge
this is what i was looking for. another Florida dude. i have to reroof my garage in Jax 🤙🏼🌴
Felt should go under the drip edge on the rakes and over the drip edge on the eaves.
It doesnt matter as much as you would think, ive done roofing for 5 years now and hasve seen it done both ways while working with a handfuls of different crews and companys
Well felt shouldn’t even go on roofs at all
@@Timothy_Himothy1 do you mean that old asphalt felt or in general including the synthetic paper?
@@Josh-ww5kz yea I mean felt shouldn’t be installed it should always be synthetic
@@Timothy_Himothy1 we only install synthetic. That paper felt is 💩
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I noticed a couple issues. The drip edge on the rake should go over the underlayment to protect the decking. The starter strip on the rack needs to go over the starter strip on the eave.
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Nail guns are a no go at my job, because you will fuck it up. Hand drive only. And bottom drip first,then paper,then rake.
The edge metal that you install on the rake it's wrong, should be on top of the felt paper!!!
Why so fast as though everyone on the planet can watch you fly through showing a corner edge, I litereally had to slow thevideo down to 25% and watch it 11 times to fully see what you are trying to teach. If your a professional you need to realize that you can just build a car at a billion miles an hour and expect a student to learn. If this was an actual class I would want my money back bacause you basically just flew through it like a spaceship going to lightspeed.
Another thing about the 6" cuts. If you measure shingle it's roughly 40" maybe a little less then that, make equal cuts at less then 8" no waste. 40"/full, 32",24" add the two cut offs 16" and 8" no waste. Perfect 45°
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I am a Self employed Plumber with 34 year's experience. 34 year's ago I was a carpenters helper with 2.5 year's experience and I do some kitchen and bathroom renovation. Do you think I would be able to put a new roof on my home?
@@juliorosenberg2222 Why not let a roofer do roofing work...and you do plumbing?
@@juliorosenberg2222 no , I'm sorry .. but u wouldn't do it right man .
@@juliorosenberg2222 Don't think you have that experience.
Thank you so much for this video. I am rebuilding an awesome shed. It is 10’x16’ with a garage door. The roof was damaged a long time ago. The shed sat for ten years with a bad roof. I completely disassembled the roof and was able to keep the drip edge pieces. I had to scab in a bunch on the trusses, and have new wood down but have never built a roof in my life. With this information I can confidently finish my roof. Thanks again.
I recommend you find a different installation video. This guy does it backwards. Also it's not common to have 17 guys on a shed.
@@travishanks7295it sure is, if you want it done before lunch time..
Two guys working and the rest pretending to work. This is so real life 😂🤣😂🤣🤣
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Isn't the felt supposed to be under the rake edge drip edge?
Drop edge should go on after felt is down. Helps wind driven rain from getting to sheeting and possible leaks
Your correct but only on the rake end.
@@horizonpointu1023 the eves should also go over. Specially depending your are, leaving the drip edge under at the eves will just result in blow offs because the underlayment will tear at the starter strip.
The drip edge on the rake edge goes over the felt paper, not under. The felt paper goes over the drip edge on the eve edge!!!
Four full grown men to shingle a shed lmfao
I think it's a demo
i’m hoping this video will help me. i’m going to install my first roof today for work, on a shed. and i’ve never done it before so i figured i would try and find a video on it, seems like you did it very well, good job!
How did it go?
Yeah. Did it come out ok??
@@reformedpilgrim turned out good
@@Richtshn06 yes
Around here the paper goes UNDER the drip edge at rake and over at eaves.
I was taught that underlayment/felt should be on top of the eave side drip edge (like the video shows) and underlayment/felt should be UNDER the rake side of the drip edge. This is so any water on the rake side penetrating would go over the drip edge and land on the underlayment. The way this video shows with underlayment/felt on top of the rake side would cause water to reach the wood sheeting and potentially cause water damage.
Yep, I install sheds during my off season and it always calls for the gable side drip edge to be on top of the underlayment
@@kelkev85 Exactly!
Thanks, that was helpful. I’m going to build a shed and am a beginner.
I saw 2 things...drip edge should be about a finger thickness away. But I did like the use of starter strip up edges i have never done this but see the benefit
Finger thickness away from what?
A broom on a granular asphalt shingle roof? Get a leaf blower! Also first eave drip edge, underlayment, and then rake drip edge.
Exactly. Felt should go under the drip edge on the rakes.
and did you know your not suppose to broom shingles takes the granule off the shingles leaf blower is the only way to go
You should mention if you’re shingling in northern areas where there’s snow you need to use Wintergard on the bottom edges and also you can put that along the rake which sticks to the wood so you don’t get ice buildup under the shingles. In most places where there is winter weather if you don’t use Wintergard it will fail inspection.
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You should definitely keep making these videos. You’ve got people from all sorts of various trades not to mention customers looking at this.
Very cool you guys are awesome you have your own little shop / class setup here 👍✌️
Does any roofer ever remove the cellophane film covering the tar strip before nailing it down, not doing so prevents shingles from sticking to each other.
Great video. Clear, concise, no wasted time talking about unrelated crap that nobody needs to hear, no annoying background music. Great job and I'll be following your tips soon on a shed I'm building. I've shingled a house and a shed before, but it's been 15 years, so this is a great refresher. Thank you.
Great Video?? What roofer goes over the peak with felt and leave no room for vent?? You never roofed, you need to sit down and re-learn how to roof.
@@virgilwalker683 Why do you think we're here, genius?
Thank you i am placing shingle in my dog house this help a lot
Before no idea 🤷🏻♀️ a ( grand mom)
100% not good
I am not a pro-roofer but had done a lot of roof repair over the years, also installed new a old. Every body had done differently. My solution is to prevent water from getting to the underlayment, to me there's no right way or wrong way( ..well to some degree) as long as you know what you are doing.
Well said. I was a roofer in Florida back in the days and in California they do it differently, especially the laying of the shingles and the drip edge
Drip edge before felt?
Owen’s Corning is where you should buy your roofing materials for your company
Wow. I hope these guys are in the Denver boulder area. They must produce a lot of easy repair jobs
Way to forget Leak Barrier (Ice & Water shield) and Ridge Vent....
Gable edge metal goes OVER felt
We all know it would save time to get all your metal work done first. Who cares if it blows off or leaks 2 years later..... jk
You gotta give it more of a overhang
Thanks just needed a refresher, been awhile and about to reroof my house 👍🏽🇺🇸
You don't start your shingles at the rake. To ensure you get even cuts on each rake you find center of the roof then snap a line 3" to the left and right of center giving your 6" spacing. This ensures cuts at the rakes are identical.
How do you do you start your step course from the center though? Just trying to picture this in my head Thanks
This is a hip root technique.
Very cool. thanks! Helped me a lot for redoing ny shed roof.
Looked like a union training class very professional
You all did a great job. Straight to the point. I’ll follow your tutorial. 👌🏾
Nice bowling shoes😂
Best roofing tutorial ever. Thank you so much!
Jw, how come the nails are not put higher up? Wouldn't that allow the single placed above (higher up on roof) to better protect water/ice from leaking from the nails ?
(due to greater overlap of nails by the shingles)
Didn't do a good job showing how to lay the shingles.
Great video!!! Right to the point.
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Reminds me of this goof I worked with in my 20’s. He just couldn’t understand how to sidewall shingle. We would build mock-up panels like this for him to practice on.. he never did figure it out and now he teaches high school shop class lol.. seriously.
depending on where ya live your missing the ice n weather shield before your tar paper 🤔👍
Make sure to leave drip edge lil loose for gutter guys 😏
gutters should be installed first they make diffent size approns to cover who want to tuck under after
I'm a woman and am having to install shingles because I can't afford to pay someone. At 64 I needed this quick video to even know where to start. I thought I needed roofing cement or something like that. Glad to see I don't! I had most of supplies needed given from others left overs. Thank you .wish me luck. I also don't have gable as roof is lower than roof above, sloped not flat and starts under a wide eave. No nice nail gun though so I'll be hammering and then covering each nail head with black waterproof caulk to be sure it's water resistant as best I can. My paper has lines on it and I wondered if line side is up or down. I'm guessing up ? As a guide for shingle rows?
Been doing roof for 40 years and i watched this video just to cherry pick anything at all. tough luck for me. can't find a single thing to complaint but sir , your boot need to go to the museum. looked like that boot have been worn by your great Grandpa.
Excellent video , after watching this i build the roof my chicken coop the same way.
And that's about all felt roof shingles are good for.
The only thing you did correct is your corners
Felt should be installed before any drip edge.
Everything else is wrong .
it's okay homeowners watching this will try to do their own roof giving us more work 🤙👌
The d edge on sides goes on top of the paper.
No underneath.
how come those guys aint tied off? thats a hell of a fall
Lol , I was thinking he jumped on that t felt paper with one or two nails in it, try that 30' up off the ground
Thanks for this video, I'm pretty handy but I've never done a roof before and it's nice to see I was on the right track
I am doing a strip and replace roof. This is hard work. I hope I am doing it correct. the only question I have is it ok to use 1.5 inch roofing nails or should I be using 1.25 inch nails. Will it make a difference?
Great video. Clear instructions, plenty of details and highlighting techniques like drip edge wrap.
drip edge must go over paper...basic knowledge and per manufactory instructions...i always forget this part because is counter intuitive.
I wonder why I’m getting all these, roof video recommendations? 🤔 #SlopeRoofGate
I was taught to ice guard and felt then drip edge. Seen this plenty of times when doing repairs and it's always leaking.
Gee, could you speed the video up even more? Especially on the drip edge corner cuts... geeze. Could follow that at all.
Great video, ONLY complaint I have is that your video was shot extremely fast, WHY???
Bro gives no time to see what'd happening, plus makes cuts hidden by the material he is cutting
Work slower--display the result so we can tell what should be done. HOLD THE WORK STILL so we can see the finished result.
Welll done, young man. Your attention to detail is impeccable 👍
I never have seen so many people in such small project
After few minutes into this, I give up the idea of doing it myself. Lol
I had roof rot in my Dad's old house that was reroofed in the 90s.
Seems that issue was due to drip edge being close to facia and water does not drip properly.
Instead, water sucked up the backside of the drip edge.
New roof contractor recommended having more space behind drip edge and facia.
Seems that this video teaches roofers to make drip edge mistake?
Joh security comes to mind ...
Did you rip off the plastic strips? Many roofers don't to save time, some manufacturers claim they are there for packaging but an Italian contractor told me in the 1980s that the strips must come off for the shingles to stick together once installed.
Not true. Read any of the manufacturer's instructions. The cellophane strips are not removed. They are to keep the tar strip from sticking to the shingle above when in the package. When the shingles are placed on the roof the cellophane strip is no where near the area where the shingle above bonds to the shingle below. Manufacturer's instructions trump "a guy told me" every time.
Haha. They are there just to keep them from sticking together in the package. I have seen homeowners rip them off. Funny stuff.
Going over the top of felt can lead to a number of problems, including increased weight on the roof, reduced ventilation, and the potential for trapped moisture between layers of felt, which can contribute to rot and decay. Why would you ever go over the top with felt??
Great video and instructional. Can't help but notice none of you guys are wearing safety shoes. Hulk Hogan is in sandles for fuck sakes...
You forgot to mention that it takes 5 guys to install 🤣 material $100, labor $500, prestige - priceless.
If you are going to purchase a new always expensive roof never let it be put on with an air gun. No matter what the contractor tells you about setting the air pressure. They destroy the shingle. Problems don’t show up right away but they will show up. A lot of contractors at least in my area, which is in New England are just guys that got into it because they are exploiting the illegal alien slave trade. Like most of the contractors don’t know anything about roofing they also never know who they’re sending to your house as they sub out their jobs to the kingpin who controls the new slave trade. It’s immoral and a shame