As someone who was supporting American Mcgee on trying to make Alice 3, before EA just flat out said "No." with no reason, I can feel it when companies have no sympathy or care for making these games.
Well, it wasn't exactly for "no reason." IIRC, American McGee kept on pitching ideas and storyboards and all of these things, and EA's response was "Neat, so... where's the actual proof of concept?" McGee kept pitching nothings and EA just wanted to see actual gameplay concepts and the like.
@TheOnlyLonelyBoy Mcgee did give a gameplay concept, it's called "The Design Bible" and is probably a free resource people can find. Technically the answer EA gave was "they didn't enough of a profit return" which may as well be no reason.
The original title to this video was "Is Microsoft done with Killer Instinct?" But, Max changed the title to what you see right now. Cheers mate!@@moroseloki1912
Considering how Microsoft keeps dropping the ball on literally every other IP they've gotten a hold of, maybe Killer Instinct not being updated again is a good thing.
@@thedarkderp2520 facts. Like imagine if Microsoft listened to Banjo kazzoie fans and gave them a new game in the series that many people have been clamoring FOR YEARS after the disaster of Nuts and Bolts only for the new game to be shitty. Reviving a dead franchise only to fail would just make it worse.
Microsoft didn't even remember that they owned it. They had to be reminded by the community which was a huge red flag. Even the KI fanbase didn't even put a sequel in their "top ten games I would love to see come to Xbox Series" before the Series launched. Which was pretty crazy to me. I'm hoping the best for KI, but things haven't been good for quite a while.
Microsoft just threw away a studio who made them a financially successful culture defining critically praised game for having the audacity to pitch a sequel. I would be more surprised if anyone at Microsoft even knew what Killer Instinct was.
@@Walka_Vodka_ Dude... Chill. You have no idea what you're talking about. While also putting it for game pass. Hi-Fi sold brilliantly well considering Xbox betrayed Tango, & Shadow dropped their game with zero publicity. Get your head out ya ass dude.
On the day Microsoft shut down Tango I remember one of the CEOs of Iron Galaxy going on Twitter and making a post clearly upset with Microsoft, and at that moment I knew "Yeah we're not getting that new KI"
The day Killer Instinct gets delisted, much like they did with KI1 and 2 during Anniversary Edition, thats gonna *absolutely suck.* The sad part is some people are convinced it will never happen. When the writting is on the wall. They're in for a rude awakening.
@@blok--head7472 Yeah, and then of course you will still be able to play the game on Steam....the modes that don't require ONLINE LIKE SINGLE PLAYER SHADOW LORDS THAT REQUIRES ***INTERNET JUST TO PLAY IT AT ALL***. Yep, once the game servers go down, that mode is DEAD FOREVER...a 100% single player mode that was a MAJOR part of the game. Brilliant!
@@godfist314This is why I despise F2P/GaaS titles. Unless Pirates can salvage that stuff, it's up in the air. Just like Rumbleverse, look how that turned out... (Also made by Iron Galaxy BTW, funny how people forget that fact.)
Remember when Disney in the early 2000's started panic buying shit then never doing anything with it? Yeah. No surprises here; especially after they bought out Activision.
@@goranisacson2502Saban Entertainment & The Muppets are the two big ones I can think of. The first is responsible for adapting the Japanese Super Sentai series and making Power Rangers out of it, and the latter should need no introduction. I’m not a Power Rangers fan, but I’ve seen a lot of complaints online over the hears that Disney’s aquisition was the downfall of the franchise. And with the Muppets the only thing they did for years was a single direct to TV movie, all the way until the 2011 theatrical movie. Even now, Muppets is one of those franchises they just don’t seem to know what they want to do with it other than sell merch, so they just sit on it for years without making anything new. I assume they still prototype, pitch and test things internally, but from the outside it looks like they just ignore it for long stretches of time, and when they do make things with it it feels like they miss the point of the franchise. That said, thry did have a new show last year, and I haven’t seen it, so maybe they’ve gotten better in recent years.
@@goranisacson2502 Disney bought Fox Kids, or I think it was Saban Brands, in the early 2000s in order to diversity their content, particularly boy-centric shows and cartoons, that meant Disney owned Power Rangers for quite a while and it was very successful for them, but at the same time they were embarrassed by it, for some reason and they wanted to interfere directly with the Super Sentai creators in order to make the shows more child-friendly than they already were. In the end Disney sold Power Rangers back to Haim Saban, since after acquiring Marvel and Star Wars they got two much bigger male-oriented brands
Yeah watch everybody get hype for the new Mass effect and then 6 months before it's supposed to lease, they just cancell it? Seems unlikely but who the hell knows anymore right? You're right that's the whole problem and gaming and so many other companiess that own IPs to content. They just snap up all these hugge franchisess , be at TV movies or games, and then eventually decide to just stop making sequels or content for the games right? They just parked them and let these amazing franchisess die. But that's how businnesess Ameriica work, they just get bigger and bigger And then consumerrs suffer 😰
@@Kinoksis Sega only went down because of the strong arm tactics Sony pulled in Japan. Sega cares about their franchises, and super cared about Dreamcast. It's still one of the best consoles of all time. Hell the Saturn was THE place to play fighting games.
@@D-OveRMinD Strong arm tactics? I mean, Sega went down largely due to their own mistakes. Not saying Sony wasn't at all involved but the biggest reason was Sega itself.
This is exactly the reason I finally got my act together, and started to play my favorite fighting game for 1-2 hours every day. Wanted to pick a main and become godlike when it was released. But life and stuff just came in the way. So I never came to it. Only played all the characters a little as they were released. But now I'm on mission to change that. Three weeks back I started to play shadow lords and ladder. With Orchid, my favorite from the first arcade. Leveled her upp to 65 quite fast and I like all characters, so know I'm playing them all, one after the other up to 65. Then I'll pick my mains and go online. I don't need a new KI. I just need this one to survive and have a loyal fanbase that keeps playing
Gaming journalists recently reported that the game industry posted a recording breaking amounts of revenue and profit never before aeen since 1998. Yet they also reported major companiea are saying their games sold way below expectations and so decided to lay off people. En masse. They should have learned whT steve jobs did when he first left apple: don't let the bean counters run the company, they only know that the company should make money, but they don't know what tools to use to make money.
For some reason "lots of people like it and want to buy it" isn't a valid reason to make something anymore unless you're the actual maker of the thing.
I said it over 3 years ago. Microsoft don't give a fuck about fighting games and they acquired KI just to try and get sales when the XB1 dropped. They knew people were anxious and desperate for a new KI games and that was their hook to try and get people to get their system. What happened? A lot of people didn't even care because of all the shady shit they dropped with the launch of the console. One of the best games ever made flopping do to poor management of Microsoft. They should've sold KI to a fighting game company like Bandai or ArcSys. Seeing it die this way sucks.
You can blame Quantitative Easing for that. It's when Obama and the Central bank started giving free money to the ultra rich. It funneled down to the tech industry. Microsoft was probably incredibly flush with cash at the time and wanted a fighting game of it's own to compete with Sony. The spigot got closed around COVID. They finally raised interest rates. This is why every new fighting game monetizes everything. Get ready for worse.
considering this is the same Microsoft that went "Hi-Fi Rush surpassed expectations with flying colors, clearly we need to close the studio that made it" yeah, I'm not shocked nor sadden that they abandon KI, & honestly the IP should just go Public domain
Considering: the precedent of guest characters in KI, the breadth of IPs Microsoft now owns, and the aparrent success of MultiVersus, theres a possibility that Iron Galaxy has been tapped to make something akin to an XBox All Stars rather than KI. ... but that's still assuming that the apportunity to make Anniversary Edition is a lead in to another project. Its a great time to play the current KI in any case. It's ironic that Iron Galaxy made Darkstalkers Resurrection, as that franchise also celebrates its 30th anniversary this year. It would also be a great time to update Capcom Fighting Collection with a Chaos Tower mode or some of the other DS/VSav content trapped on old releases. No sign of something like that happening either, though.
Bought Capcom Fighting Colletion on two platforms. Yet, still no Darkstalkers news. To be expected, but they can take their "test" and stick it sideways far as Im concerned.
@@the13thjokerSadly MegaMan 11 dropped when I was burned out from the franchise. Only reason it even exists is because Capcom wanted to stick it to Mighty No 9. (IIRC.) Fans literally *begged* them to make a sequel for years, yet they only do it, is when they wanted to stick it to a former dev. How's that for classy behavior... Thankfully MegaMan fan games filled that void a long time ago. (Unlimited and 8BitDeathMatch knew how to do it right.)
This is a silly comment with 0 backing and no sense. They definitely don't just support CoD, but sure, they really support it because it makes them tons of money, so why wouldn't they? Thats like saying you wouldn't choose an easy job that nets you 100k a month by just sitting at a desk,m twiddling your thumbs and chilling, yeesh.
@@IntertwiningRoses I think the worst part that your not getting is they can support more than CoD but make the choice to throw everything away and be lazy, pretty much spot on for Microsoft given their past....
the problem for the whole "its all free come play" thing, as a super casual who has been up to date with the FCG like the games but dont vibe with playing them too much. The only things i've played at tekken 8, MKX and then tekken 5, i dont want to "buy" into a fighting game no matter how free and cool it might be at this late stage where after a point i will only face people who've played this thing for years and years. But if a new game came out i'd be more willing to pay a full price to "buy" into the game early with a bunch of other casuals who are starting with this game. i Think thats the major problem with Fighting games and attacting an audience, it has to be in MASSIVE waves which will be retained so the noobs can climb together
Microsoft doesn't know what the hell they even want. Actually look at what they have done just this year alone. Not just the Xbox brand, Microsoft in general. They actively don't know what they even want. You'd think "duh, they want money" but clearly not because all of their choices are actively hurting them down the line.
It's either spite towards their own audience, or they just can't figure out what their players want. Period. Like if they can't even get Halo right, what chance does a "KI2" have? Honestly. We've seen MK1 and MVCI, we don't need another stinker in the fgc.
@@nman551every damn year since 11 years ago you guys say this... just saying... When the F are you guys gonna understand that MS and Xbox are clowns since 2014 bruh? 🤦♂️
@@unk0002013.... it all started with one phrase... *"If players want to play offline, We have a product, its called the Xbox 360."* That was the day Xbox lost their way.
@blok--head7472 - Don't forget the proposed, daily check-ins to play ANY of your PURCHASED games on XB1 or how M$ used Kinect2 to spy on customers, punish them in-game for shit they might have said, then SOLD their harvested info to unknown 3rd parties (China probably).
Kind of expected at how they killed literally the money maker game studios and go "how we repeat that success". If MS buys a company, look to see that IP dying.
It isn't even just KI. It's Microsoft Gaming as a whole. I'd would not be surprised if there's no successor console. The business' bottom line is so high that seemingly everything fails and nothing makes money.
I wouldn’t be surprised either. If we’re lucky maybe we get 1 more generation of Xbox consoles but idk. They seem to wanna move away from hardware entirely and maybe just publish games
Same could be said for Square Enix. All their games failed expectations. Guardians of the Galaxy, Avengers, all the Tomb Raiders, etc. Even FF7 Rebirth is said to be a disappointment. Game development is expensive.
Not finding a developer who would work on it is a legitimately understandable reason. If you have a solid IP that has a strong name, and hand it to a C list team, you could effectively ruin a potential future project. When people think of a game series they think of the publisher and IP. This means the notoriety of name is very very important. A single terrible game can have a big impact. Fighting games are niche as it is. There are only a handful of dev teams that regularly make them, and most of those teams have multiple fighting games they're working on as it is. Those within the community know these teams by heart. If the core audiance sees a no-name team making their series, you could lose that important niche audiance as well as ruin the name that could help it recover. Not only do you lose money but you actively kill the value of the IP in the process.
Microsoft is done with IPs that don't start/end with Call and/or Duty Im afraid. Phil put the company in a 70 billion dollar hole that has forced the greater corporate side of microsoft to take notice. No more fun, literally.
🙄..... M$ SAID they're NOT interested in CoD. They want the CoD Mobile infrastructure. Now consider how this could tie-in to that rumored XBox portable we keep hearing about. M$ gonna ruin gaming all by themselves at this rate.
@TexasHollowEarth COD mobile is a huge moneymaker but let's not pretend COD itself also isn't a giant billion dollar money maker that they wanted to get. Except now they've paid way way too much for it lol
Imagine buying half of the dev teams on the planet and being like "but we can't find a dev bro." I hate Microsoft more than any word is capable of expressing.
Just because you know how to code a Halo game doesn’t mean you’d be good at coding (let alone designing) a fighting game, especially one as peculiar as Killer Instinct. That’s not how the real world works, my guy.
@@zelohendricks51 Which people? Before you say Iron Galaxy let me remind you that IG just watched MS dissolve game studios (most notably the one for Hi-Fi Rush) and have a history of working with/for MS for making S2 and S3 of KI for very little money. I'm not saying they would never do it, but the contract for making a new KI would be a steep asking price for MS. IG is incredibly good at what they set their minds to. However, MS are going to be looking to the past for how much they paid Double Helix and IG to make KI back in 2013-2017 and look at IG's asking price and conditions, and have reservations. And if they choose anyone but IG to do KI4, that company better be people who love the game enough to not have to know how fighting games work, but are willing to learn, or must be able to make fighting games already and be willing to take on the weird systems that KI has as its core values. If neither of those are true, the game is doomed, and possibly the studio that MS picks with it.
I wrote this on the recent advertisement for KI Anniversary Edition, and I'll copy and paste it here: Hey, Microsoft. If you wanna show some brand confidence in Xbox again, let these developers make you a new Killer Instinct, give them a good budget, advertise it properly, and give it a good amount of content. That'd help win people back. By the way, thank you to Iron Galaxy and Double Helix for making KI (2013) one of the greatest fighting games of all time.
Win who back? The low percentage of people who support and want the games they got cancelled? Cause sorry, low proft potential is why studios are being cut/shut down. Business is business, and in this era of failed games, it is what it is.
It’s really a shame because they have so many great IP’s they could utilize but they just don’t. And the ones they do utilize always have problems like crazy and get pushed back a bunch only to come out and not be that great. It’s like we’ll get a cinematic trailer for something then not hear about it for a couple years it’s so wierd. Development is being mismanaged like crazy and it seems widespread across almost all their studios not just a couple of them
They are taking AWAY the games. Subscriptions, you'll own nothing..... is their goal. Get this..... they even SAID that they didn't want CoD. They want the CoD Mobile INFRASTRUCTURE. Xbots = bots. We KNOW M$ uses them and has for over a DECADE.
It’s okay to let franchises die gracefully. Darkstalkers had an excellent trilogy, Bloody Roar had 4 great games, and killer instinct got one of the most unique mainstream fighting games released in the past decade. I want to see new series be born from the ashes of their predecessors
In some fashion I agree. Letting things end while they're still good is better than them being resurrected as something lesser. Though on the same token, it could turn out great, it all just depends. MLP: FiM for example died well, rather than being milked to death like most Family IPs. Megas XLR is another, a fantastic show that had a short but beyond sweet run.
The problem is that Darkstalkers _didn't_ "die gracefully": it had three games back in the mid to late 90s, and Capcom has been re-releasing that same games (in varying quality) for nearly 30 years. You could also make the argument that Bloody Roar didn't either (as BR4 was fairly divisive).
Max, the problem was the timing of the KI 10 year anniversary edition. They tried to see if players would still play KI while at the same time new Street Fighter, new Mortal Kombat and new Tekken released... Now, don't get me wrong, I really like KI and want to support it, but dude, Tekken 8 is so F good it's impossible to play any other fighting game right now.
I know some people are gonna get super mad about this but I feel that KI should be one of the games that bridges the gap to PlayStation, I say that as a fan of fighting games and Killer Instinct especially, the boost in players could certainly be beneficial to the game and given that there's the current resurgence in fighting games, what have they got to lose? I'd take the health of the game, an increased playerbase and the hopes of a sequel over exclusivity.
I’m just going to download it on PC. I love fighting games and I love watching KI. If there’s anything we can do as a community then we gotta stand up with them
With the industry being in a state of spending too much money on a game's budget to the point of it needing to make an egregious amount back to be considered a success, Killer Instinct feels like it could be the right approach for Microsoft. A project with a scale and budget that's more AA and can play the long game finanically without needing to make a return instantly. It's also something they could put it while they're busy working on bigger projects that will take more time to come out. Xbox needs more games in the market, they just don't need to be so big on scale.
Microsoft isn’t a very well known “fighting game” platform. It’s mostly known for first person shooters & multiplayer online gaming. It doesn’t surprise me how Killer Instinct isn’t be supported or promoted on the Xbox series consoles.
I searched for a way to olay thr original KI and on PC besides MAME there is nothing now unless you got that special KI edition that they don't sell anymore.
Love it when people don't understand how business works and just think Microsoft is cutting people left and right lol. Games and studios with low profit are being let go, it is what it is.
@@IntertwiningRoses ahem, what about tango gamework? they make hi-fi rush and lots of people love it even its always have good score in most review. But Microsoft just shut down them, why? well i do aware their other game its not that great (evil within, ghostwire) but they just got a chance to shine with hi-fi rush then microsoft just say "nope" Edit : After checking other comment, i've been realized i was replying to microsoft ass licker lol
@@IntertwiningRosesbro is this Phil’s alt account 🤡 ? Why are you absolutely sucking the fuck out of Microsoft’s boots? Microsoft should not be buying ANY studios if they are gonna be shuttering them after they make one game for their absolute scam gamepass, they spent around what? 20 million to buy bethesda and all its subsidiary studios? Yet they just shuttered over half of them, they are making some of the worst “it’s business” decisions I’ve ever seen in my life, stop being a Xbot and lapping up whatever they shit out for you
M$ barely gave it a budget, in the 1st place. They let Amazon swipe the dev from them, kept cutting the game's budget year-after-year, and even crowd funded Shadow Jago's development. All this WHILE SF5 was popular on PS4, which they didn't get..... they didn't WANT to compete, and it was obvious. Fuck M$.
Anything that isn't going to be a huge direct cash injection into their investors' pockets is going to be tossed in a dumpster. That ActiBlizzKing acquisition cost a pretty penny and stockholders do NOT like to wait for returns.
Maybe Microsoft wanted to become the new "Old" Konami because Konami is now releasing games again. How long it took Konami to snap out of that phase? 10 years?
They will put 0 energy into keeping these franchises alive. It’s all just going to die. Toys for Bob escaping Sony was a miracle, and this is Microsoft. Empty suits.
Microsoft and selling their ips? Not gonna happen. They think the way to win in the console market is by buying as many studios as possible and doing nothing with them until they die. We all know the results of that.
Max.... Where did you get that shirt? That's the iconic 1994 Alien vs Predator arcade characters. That was one my favorite arcade Beat-Em-Ups back then. 🔥💯
They are sitting on an IP series that contains one of the best (and personal favourite) FG ever made. In this new era of Fighting Games, a new KI with extra polish would be amazing. I truly believe it would catch on and become a major game for both casual and pro play.
Matt Booty, Sarah Bond and Phil Spencer together with Microsoft corporate and financing absolutely murdered Xbox. The brand is dead, the games rarely come out, and they are all about selling us slop right now.
I'm on the pessimist side on this one, even if we were to raise more awareness, hold more events, the way it's going at Microsoft especially after the closing of Arkane and Tango (and I'd say Ninja Theory might be next), tells me that if it isn't a cash cow like CoD, Elder Scrolls or most Blizzard IPs, they're not going to prioritize making new games. Pretty sure with the current closures they had, they're going to prioritize the big IPs that'll pay back their investment. Even if they were to port KI to other platforms, with crossplay, I don't think it would be enough to turn MS's head over the idea of greenlighting another game. Basically most scenarios aren't optimistic due to how big and expensive it is to develop games of this caliber.
NT will definitely be next. They will either be disbanded or sold to someone. They've made 2 games already and both failed. By the way, the head of NT, who was at the founding of the company, left the studio a long time ago. But that happened after NT was bought by MS.
@@BiriBiri925 yeah, I saw about Tameem leaving the company. Definitely a big warning sign considering how well Hellblade 1 did. But after Bleeding Edge failed and the reception for Hellblade 2 not being as big, it doesn't bode well for them.
Its funny that even my old manager who I swear never really played games, knew and enjoyed KI. It will always be a game in my eyes that was underrated as hell and microsoft isnt really helping anymore and thats such a shame
@@WhatisReal11 in that case he would have let Sony get all these studios. I think he is trying to kill the gaming scene completely, thats why he buys as many studios as possible to do nothing with them and shutting them down. Just so that there are less studios who could make games for other consoles.
@@WhatisReal11Out of touch, shortsighted buisness suits who know nothing about the audience they have. But Game Pass will save everything right... right? How them sales doing again..
If Microsoft was smart they would invest in a new Killer Instinct game. That game still has a strong and loyal fan base. Tournament scene is STILL active
KI is unfortunately one of those franchises that was ahead of its time, influenced the other major fgc games with bigger combos and manuals within combos, so on and so forth, to disappear. No major fgc company backing, and legacy loyalist has killed off the gamez
As a tekken player, KI has been my 2nd favorite fighting game to watch, both online and locally (I've been to every combo breaker since it started). But I've never gotten to play it since it's not on Playstation. I'd definitely buy it if it became available
Microsoft need to give KI over to rare and Nintendo need to buy rare back since Microsoft don't have no interest in the franchise or the development company
If you made a new video on the history of the series, we will re-share it endlessly!!! The dream is seeing the KI 1 and 2 vibes in 4K, and bring in all the goodness from KI 2013. I was there in the arcade back in the day, and spent more years on emulator before KI 2013 came out. I am so excited for KI 4 one day.
I love killer instinct since 1999 and even though i don't play it that much anymore and never played the 2013 game i still love the series it's sucks that its always getting Left in the dust by tekken street fighter and mortal Kombat
Another sad point is this weird fact that, outside of Mortal Kombat, there has never been a fighting game series that remained relevant and mainstream for a long period that wasn't Japanese. Killer Instinct was close were it not for that 17ish year time gap, and no others really come close. Would have been nice to see KI do the same but, alas, it wasn't to be.
I got myself an Xbox series X and the first thing i did was Download KI. That was the first game i wanted to play. That and Palworld. But i had been sitting around watching KI gameplay for years. KI was one of my favorite games on the SNES as a kid. Its what really got me into a fighting game. Sure SF2 helped alot too. But KI was what really made me go, Woah. These are really fun. And then came MK Trilogy which was the First MK game i ever got my hands on and had fun with that. But KI was the one game i truly loved in the Fighting scene. And that opened my eyes to games like Darkstalkers, then Blazblue. All cause KI was super influential on me. And yes i also do play smash, but that game came along more as me being a Nintendo fan and always had imaginary battles on who would win, Samus or Fox and all that. But seriously Long Live KI
Did the same but with Gamepass on mobile and it was an absolutely terrible experience. Even worse when Apple took away HDMI out through lightning. Talk about phukking the end user over.
People have spoken up more about the desire for a Killer Instinct sequel than they have for anything else in the fighting game world. And Microsoft just disrespectfully craps all over it. They’re total idiots
@@orangeslash1667 no they care about franchises. Only triple A ones. If you make an Indie Darling youre gonna be sold so the investors can get a nice bonus. (RIP TANGO)
@@JOfJaZ The only reason KI was green lite is because Microsoft needed a launch tile for the Xbox one and Ken Lobb suggested KI because he worked with KI before. It says here that the most resent thing Iron Galaxy has done was porting Apex Legends to the Switch. The goods news is that Rare confirmed that Fatal Fury was the biggest inspiration for KI and Fatal Fury just got a new game.
Microsoft is their own worst enemy when trying to foster a work environment where creativity flows. They used to let people create passion projects and that's how we even got KI to begin with. MS/Xbox didn't secure Iron Galaxy soon enough to make a second one, so now we're in the waiting game. I HOPE Iron Galaxy is making a second one. Jez Cordon has been talking about KI a lot in the last six months on his podcast and mentioned it just last week on Twitter. I think he's trying to find the pulse of the fans to see if Xbox made an announcement if fans would be behind it. Of course we would. What MS doesn't realize, that some in Xbox did, is with time and work, KI can make them a lot of money. I hope we get an announcement next weekend. It's very high on my list of most anticipated games. /copium
Nobody should actually pay Jez any attention because that dude is basically the living representation of those meme graphs showing "It's Over, ITS SO OVER, WE'RE BACK, it's over... WE'RE SO BACK," on top of also basically lying over social media about what he does and doesn't know about shit behind the scenes.
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As someone who was supporting American Mcgee on trying to make Alice 3, before EA just flat out said "No." with no reason, I can feel it when companies have no sympathy or care for making these games.
Well, it wasn't exactly for "no reason." IIRC, American McGee kept on pitching ideas and storyboards and all of these things, and EA's response was "Neat, so... where's the actual proof of concept?"
McGee kept pitching nothings and EA just wanted to see actual gameplay concepts and the like.
@TheOnlyLonelyBoy Mcgee did give a gameplay concept, it's called "The Design Bible" and is probably a free resource people can find. Technically the answer EA gave was "they didn't enough of a profit return" which may as well be no reason.
That game was a thing
To make things even more somber, November 2024 would be the 30th anniversary of the Killer Instinct series.
Just… leave it be…
Original title
" is microsoft done with killer instinct?"
?....what
The original title to this video was "Is Microsoft done with Killer Instinct?" But, Max changed the title to what you see right now. Cheers mate!@@moroseloki1912
Considering how Microsoft keeps dropping the ball on literally every other IP they've gotten a hold of, maybe Killer Instinct not being updated again is a good thing.
THIS! With how shitty Microsoft is, I don’t trust them with a new Killer Instinct
Tell Forza, Minecraft, Sea of thieves, Grounded about all those IP… u sony fans are the roaches of the internet
@@dee_dee4640a new bad KI is better than no new KI
@@StillChewy no it isn't that's how you tarnish your ip and make people disinterested in it
@@thedarkderp2520 facts. Like imagine if Microsoft listened to Banjo kazzoie fans and gave them a new game in the series that many people have been clamoring FOR YEARS after the disaster of Nuts and Bolts only for the new game to be shitty. Reviving a dead franchise only to fail would just make it worse.
Microsoft didn't even remember that they owned it. They had to be reminded by the community which was a huge red flag. Even the KI fanbase didn't even put a sequel in their "top ten games I would love to see come to Xbox Series" before the Series launched. Which was pretty crazy to me. I'm hoping the best for KI, but things haven't been good for quite a while.
Microsoft just threw away a studio who made them a financially successful culture defining critically praised game for having the audacity to pitch a sequel.
I would be more surprised if anyone at Microsoft even knew what Killer Instinct was.
Lol the game made no money at all.. u weird fans always act like you know what ur talking about but 9/10 its complete bullshit
@@Walka_Vodka_ Dude... Chill.
You have no idea what you're talking about. While also putting it for game pass.
Hi-Fi sold brilliantly well considering Xbox betrayed Tango, & Shadow dropped their game with zero publicity.
Get your head out ya ass dude.
@joaquinbranche6222 how do you know how much the game made?
@@Walka_Vodka_ It won MANY Awards.
@@Walka_Vodka_ they never revealed the sales of Hi Fi Rush. No point in assumptions. But they have said it did well.
Imagine being paid $100/y+ to throw away Franchises like Hi-Fi Rush and Killer Instinct.
And after publicly saying "We need more games like this."
They’re actual idiots
Did they actually also give up Hi-Fi? If so, I'm gonna crash out
@@kingkh001literally shut down tango game works a couple of weeks ago.
$100 a year would explain a lot
@@JohnGuyJohn😭😭😭 I was lost asf
On the day Microsoft shut down Tango I remember one of the CEOs of Iron Galaxy going on Twitter and making a post clearly upset with Microsoft, and at that moment I knew "Yeah we're not getting that new KI"
The day Killer Instinct gets delisted, much like they did with KI1 and 2 during Anniversary Edition, thats gonna *absolutely suck.*
The sad part is some people are convinced it will never happen. When the writting is on the wall. They're in for a rude awakening.
@@blok--head7472 Yeah, and then of course you will still be able to play the game on Steam....the modes that don't require ONLINE LIKE SINGLE PLAYER SHADOW LORDS THAT REQUIRES ***INTERNET JUST TO PLAY IT AT ALL***. Yep, once the game servers go down, that mode is DEAD FOREVER...a 100% single player mode that was a MAJOR part of the game. Brilliant!
@@godfist314This is why I despise F2P/GaaS titles. Unless Pirates can salvage that stuff, it's up in the air.
Just like Rumbleverse, look how that turned out... (Also made by Iron Galaxy BTW, funny how people forget that fact.)
Remember when Disney in the early 2000's started panic buying shit then never doing anything with it? Yeah. No surprises here; especially after they bought out Activision.
Yet everyone was defending Microsoft just because they bought Blizzard and Bethesda.
"You get what you deserve" - The Joker
Huh, I actually don't. I remember Pixar in 06, but they certainly did stuff with that company. What else did they buy in that period?
@@goranisacson2502Saban Entertainment & The Muppets are the two big ones I can think of.
The first is responsible for adapting the Japanese Super Sentai series and making Power Rangers out of it, and the latter should need no introduction. I’m not a Power Rangers fan, but I’ve seen a lot of complaints online over the hears that Disney’s aquisition was the downfall of the franchise. And with the Muppets the only thing they did for years was a single direct to TV movie, all the way until the 2011 theatrical movie.
Even now, Muppets is one of those franchises they just don’t seem to know what they want to do with it other than sell merch, so they just sit on it for years without making anything new. I assume they still prototype, pitch and test things internally, but from the outside it looks like they just ignore it for long stretches of time, and when they do make things with it it feels like they miss the point of the franchise. That said, thry did have a new show last year, and I haven’t seen it, so maybe they’ve gotten better in recent years.
@@goranisacson2502 Disney bought Fox Kids, or I think it was Saban Brands, in the early 2000s in order to diversity their content, particularly boy-centric shows and cartoons, that meant Disney owned Power Rangers for quite a while and it was very successful for them, but at the same time they were embarrassed by it, for some reason and they wanted to interfere directly with the Super Sentai creators in order to make the shows more child-friendly than they already were. In the end Disney sold Power Rangers back to Haim Saban, since after acquiring Marvel and Star Wars they got two much bigger male-oriented brands
Yeah watch everybody get hype for the new Mass effect and then 6 months before it's supposed to lease, they just cancell it? Seems unlikely but who the hell knows anymore right? You're right that's the whole problem and gaming and so many other companiess that own IPs to content. They just snap up all these hugge franchisess , be at TV movies or games, and then eventually decide to just stop making sequels or content for the games right? They just parked them and let these amazing franchisess die. But that's how businnesess Ameriica work, they just get bigger and bigger And then consumerrs suffer 😰
Microsoft seem to be done with a lot of things.
Even the console, if rumors are true. They probably want to go the way of SEGA.
You folks are insufferable
@@Kinoksis Sega only went down because of the strong arm tactics Sony pulled in Japan. Sega cares about their franchises, and super cared about Dreamcast. It's still one of the best consoles of all time. Hell the Saturn was THE place to play fighting games.
@@tyjones9864 What you mean?
@@D-OveRMinD Strong arm tactics? I mean, Sega went down largely due to their own mistakes. Not saying Sony wasn't at all involved but the biggest reason was Sega itself.
This is exactly the reason I finally got my act together, and started to play my favorite fighting game for 1-2 hours every day. Wanted to pick a main and become godlike when it was released. But life and stuff just came in the way. So I never came to it. Only played all the characters a little as they were released.
But now I'm on mission to change that. Three weeks back I started to play shadow lords and ladder. With Orchid, my favorite from the first arcade. Leveled her upp to 65 quite fast and I like all characters, so know I'm playing them all, one after the other up to 65. Then I'll pick my mains and go online. I don't need a new KI. I just need this one to survive and have a loyal fanbase that keeps playing
Train me Jedi master
@@phantom_knight5150 Haha I'm not any good dude, yet! Just leveling up the characters by kicking ass on beginner setting in survival ladder.
"2019 was five years ago" God damn it.
Everyone: We want a KI sequel!
Microsoft: A what? Hell is KI?
Gaming journalists recently reported that the game industry posted a recording breaking amounts of revenue and profit never before aeen since 1998.
Yet they also reported major companiea are saying their games sold way below expectations and so decided to lay off people. En masse.
They should have learned whT steve jobs did when he first left apple: don't let the bean counters run the company, they only know that the company should make money, but they don't know what tools to use to make money.
The gaming industry is a very broad concept. Mobile games are also included in this term. And mobile games will make more and more money every year.
For some reason "lots of people like it and want to buy it" isn't a valid reason to make something anymore unless you're the actual maker of the thing.
And not raking in CoD tier profit.
I said it over 3 years ago. Microsoft don't give a fuck about fighting games and they acquired KI just to try and get sales when the XB1 dropped. They knew people were anxious and desperate for a new KI games and that was their hook to try and get people to get their system. What happened? A lot of people didn't even care because of all the shady shit they dropped with the launch of the console. One of the best games ever made flopping do to poor management of Microsoft. They should've sold KI to a fighting game company like Bandai or ArcSys. Seeing it die this way sucks.
You can blame Quantitative Easing for that. It's when Obama and the Central bank started giving free money to the ultra rich. It funneled down to the tech industry. Microsoft was probably incredibly flush with cash at the time and wanted a fighting game of it's own to compete with Sony. The spigot got closed around COVID. They finally raised interest rates.
This is why every new fighting game monetizes everything. Get ready for worse.
considering this is the same Microsoft that went "Hi-Fi Rush surpassed expectations with flying colors, clearly we need to close the studio that made it"
yeah, I'm not shocked nor sadden that they abandon KI, & honestly the IP should just go Public domain
We’re lucky we even got a he anniversary update. I think KI is done under MS.
If its done under MS then it's just done forever. They're not going to sell Rare.
Considering:
the precedent of guest characters in KI,
the breadth of IPs Microsoft now owns, and
the aparrent success of MultiVersus,
theres a possibility that Iron Galaxy has been tapped to make something akin to an XBox All Stars rather than KI.
... but that's still assuming that the apportunity to make Anniversary Edition is a lead in to another project. Its a great time to play the current KI in any case.
It's ironic that Iron Galaxy made Darkstalkers Resurrection, as that franchise also celebrates its 30th anniversary this year. It would also be a great time to update Capcom Fighting Collection with a Chaos Tower mode or some of the other DS/VSav content trapped on old releases. No sign of something like that happening either, though.
The Capcom test never works.
Bought Capcom Fighting Colletion on two platforms. Yet, still no Darkstalkers news.
To be expected, but they can take their "test" and stick it sideways far as Im concerned.
This only happen on MegaMan 11 though. Now if they MegaMan X9....
@@the13thjokerSadly MegaMan 11 dropped when I was burned out from the franchise. Only reason it even exists is because Capcom wanted to stick it to Mighty No 9. (IIRC.)
Fans literally *begged* them to make a sequel for years, yet they only do it, is when they wanted to stick it to a former dev. How's that for classy behavior...
Thankfully MegaMan fan games filled that void a long time ago. (Unlimited and 8BitDeathMatch knew how to do it right.)
They're done with more than just KI, they're done with everything that isn't COD
Calling it now the next console They release will be the "CodBox"😂
gamepass gonna be dead in a year or two lol
@@rundown132 Not with the new COD coming to gamepass, they needed something like COD to push Gamepass to the masses
This is a silly comment with 0 backing and no sense. They definitely don't just support CoD, but sure, they really support it because it makes them tons of money, so why wouldn't they? Thats like saying you wouldn't choose an easy job that nets you 100k a month by just sitting at a desk,m twiddling your thumbs and chilling, yeesh.
@@IntertwiningRoses I think the worst part that your not getting is they can support more than CoD but make the choice to throw everything away and be lazy, pretty much spot on for Microsoft given their past....
the problem for the whole "its all free come play" thing, as a super casual who has been up to date with the FCG like the games but dont vibe with playing them too much. The only things i've played at tekken 8, MKX and then tekken 5, i dont want to "buy" into a fighting game no matter how free and cool it might be at this late stage where after a point i will only face people who've played this thing for years and years. But if a new game came out i'd be more willing to pay a full price to "buy" into the game early with a bunch of other casuals who are starting with this game. i Think thats the major problem with Fighting games and attacting an audience, it has to be in MASSIVE waves which will be retained so the noobs can climb together
Microsoft doesn't know what the hell they even want. Actually look at what they have done just this year alone. Not just the Xbox brand, Microsoft in general. They actively don't know what they even want. You'd think "duh, they want money" but clearly not because all of their choices are actively hurting them down the line.
It's either spite towards their own audience, or they just can't figure out what their players want. Period.
Like if they can't even get Halo right, what chance does a "KI2" have? Honestly. We've seen MK1 and MVCI, we don't need another stinker in the fgc.
I will keep saying it, the biggest mistake Rare ever did was to sell themselves over to Microsoft.
Y'all give Microsoft a big hearty *"Boo, you stink"* when Summer Games Fest rolls around.
@@nman551every damn year since 11 years ago you guys say this... just saying...
When the F are you guys gonna understand that MS and Xbox are clowns since 2014 bruh? 🤦♂️
"OH BROTHER, THIS GUY STINKS!"
@@unk0002013.... it all started with one phrase...
*"If players want to play offline, We have a product, its called the Xbox 360."*
That was the day Xbox lost their way.
@@blok--head7472or the time "you can using your XBoX to watch TV...and TV."
@blok--head7472 - Don't forget the proposed, daily check-ins to play ANY of your PURCHASED games on XB1 or how M$ used Kinect2 to spy on customers, punish them in-game for shit they might have said, then SOLD their harvested info to unknown 3rd parties (China probably).
Kind of expected at how they killed literally the money maker game studios and go "how we repeat that success". If MS buys a company, look to see that IP dying.
It feels like they're just taking a megalomaniac shit on ANYTHING GAMING within their grasp.
Revive Killer Instinct AGAIN, MAX!!
It isn't even just KI. It's Microsoft Gaming as a whole. I'd would not be surprised if there's no successor console. The business' bottom line is so high that seemingly everything fails and nothing makes money.
I wouldn’t be surprised either. If we’re lucky maybe we get 1 more generation of Xbox consoles but idk. They seem to wanna move away from hardware entirely and maybe just publish games
Same could be said for Square Enix. All their games failed expectations. Guardians of the Galaxy, Avengers, all the Tomb Raiders, etc. Even FF7 Rebirth is said to be a disappointment. Game development is expensive.
Hows Halo Infinite doing again...
This is what I suspect is happening. Playstation is claiming another victim.
@@blok--head7472considering they currently retain roughly 2% of their original playerbase, id say really badly.
Oh boy.... i sure hope not.
They should've brought back their original moves and Super Moves from KI Gold. Talk about an absolute field day people will have in tournaments.
My guy they dissolved the company that made Hi-Fi Rush, and you thought Killer Instinct had a shot!? HA!
What is Hi-Fi rush?
@@pd0diA game
Way to be a negative Nancy lol
@@MrDanno He's honest, not negative.
@@pd0ditry it👌
feel like this is just leading to PS5/Switch 2 ports of KI Anniversary Edition, doubt well see anything new for years and years out
A rare dog sighting
Fingers crossed.
Least then they have a chance on other platforms.
I highly doubt they'll ever think of letting things they own be on PS5 or Nintendo. They'd rather let their IPs die than do anything with them.
@@MisterX867But they are supposedly getting Sea of Thieves and possibly Halo.
If they draw the line at KI, then MS are truly a bone headed studio.
Really wishing KI gets a relaunch soon. It sucked the momentum halted for so long.
If M$ wants to make $, why not port KI3 to PS4/5? I'd buy it (again) as I'm not interested in those shitty games they're trying to unload on us.
I have like 0 faith in seeing anything postive comming from MS
👍. M$ ain't making games..... they're playing irl Monopoly 🤔
@@TexasHollowEarthnot passing go either as it seems gamepass is the only big success
I will never give up Killer Instinct 👊
The next Microsoft-made KI product will be a military industrial complex real life Fulgore, commensurate with MS changing it's name to Ultratech
They axed Tango when they succeeded. What is downloading and playing the game gonna do?
Oh shit Killer instinct got screwed over like dark stalkers, when Capcom tried to test the waters with Dark Stalkers Resurrection.
Not finding a developer who would work on it is a legitimately understandable reason. If you have a solid IP that has a strong name, and hand it to a C list team, you could effectively ruin a potential future project.
When people think of a game series they think of the publisher and IP. This means the notoriety of name is very very important. A single terrible game can have a big impact.
Fighting games are niche as it is. There are only a handful of dev teams that regularly make them, and most of those teams have multiple fighting games they're working on as it is. Those within the community know these teams by heart. If the core audiance sees a no-name team making their series, you could lose that important niche audiance as well as ruin the name that could help it recover. Not only do you lose money but you actively kill the value of the IP in the process.
Microsoft is done with IPs that don't start/end with Call and/or Duty Im afraid. Phil put the company in a 70 billion dollar hole that has forced the greater corporate side of microsoft to take notice. No more fun, literally.
I'm surprised Microsoft hasn't fired that glue-eating moron Phil for wasting that much money.
🙄..... M$ SAID they're NOT interested in CoD. They want the CoD Mobile infrastructure. Now consider how this could tie-in to that rumored XBox portable we keep hearing about. M$ gonna ruin gaming all by themselves at this rate.
@TexasHollowEarth COD mobile is a huge moneymaker but let's not pretend COD itself also isn't a giant billion dollar money maker that they wanted to get.
Except now they've paid way way too much for it lol
Don't forget KI came to switch online as well - not sure if they can see how many ppl play that though
Imagine buying half of the dev teams on the planet and being like "but we can't find a dev bro." I hate Microsoft more than any word is capable of expressing.
Just because you know how to code a Halo game doesn’t mean you’d be good at coding (let alone designing) a fighting game, especially one as peculiar as Killer Instinct. That’s not how the real world works, my guy.
@lerigan And yet your logic doesn't work here. They have the people yet don't use them, my guy
@@zelohendricks51 Which people? Before you say Iron Galaxy let me remind you that IG just watched MS dissolve game studios (most notably the one for Hi-Fi Rush) and have a history of working with/for MS for making S2 and S3 of KI for very little money. I'm not saying they would never do it, but the contract for making a new KI would be a steep asking price for MS. IG is incredibly good at what they set their minds to. However, MS are going to be looking to the past for how much they paid Double Helix and IG to make KI back in 2013-2017 and look at IG's asking price and conditions, and have reservations.
And if they choose anyone but IG to do KI4, that company better be people who love the game enough to not have to know how fighting games work, but are willing to learn, or must be able to make fighting games already and be willing to take on the weird systems that KI has as its core values. If neither of those are true, the game is doomed, and possibly the studio that MS picks with it.
@@leriganmy guy they own half the inidustry my guy
@@lerigan you got cooked, my guy.
Jesus christ, 5 years ago??? Time goes by way too fast
I wrote this on the recent advertisement for KI Anniversary Edition, and I'll copy and paste it here:
Hey, Microsoft. If you wanna show some brand confidence in Xbox again, let these developers make you a new Killer Instinct, give them a good budget, advertise it properly, and give it a good amount of content. That'd help win people back.
By the way, thank you to Iron Galaxy and Double Helix for making KI (2013) one of the greatest fighting games of all time.
Win who back? The low percentage of people who support and want the games they got cancelled? Cause sorry, low proft potential is why studios are being cut/shut down. Business is business, and in this era of failed games, it is what it is.
@@IntertwiningRosesleast obviously Phil alt account 🤡
@@zazombiezmasher0116Phillip Spends'ster
M$ has horrible management. They dont seem to have a clue as to how they can cultivate their franchises. I have no hope for any studio under m$. 😢
It’s really a shame because they have so many great IP’s they could utilize but they just don’t. And the ones they do utilize always have problems like crazy and get pushed back a bunch only to come out and not be that great. It’s like we’ll get a cinematic trailer for something then not hear about it for a couple years it’s so wierd. Development is being mismanaged like crazy and it seems widespread across almost all their studios not just a couple of them
Whens that Perfect Dark coming out again?
Oh right, never.
They are taking AWAY the games. Subscriptions, you'll own nothing..... is their goal. Get this..... they even SAID that they didn't want CoD. They want the CoD Mobile INFRASTRUCTURE. Xbots = bots. We KNOW M$ uses them and has for over a DECADE.
It’s okay to let franchises die gracefully. Darkstalkers had an excellent trilogy, Bloody Roar had 4 great games, and killer instinct got one of the most unique mainstream fighting games released in the past decade. I want to see new series be born from the ashes of their predecessors
In some fashion I agree. Letting things end while they're still good is better than them being resurrected as something lesser. Though on the same token, it could turn out great, it all just depends.
MLP: FiM for example died well, rather than being milked to death like most Family IPs. Megas XLR is another, a fantastic show that had a short but beyond sweet run.
The problem is that Darkstalkers _didn't_ "die gracefully": it had three games back in the mid to late 90s, and Capcom has been re-releasing that same games (in varying quality) for nearly 30 years. You could also make the argument that Bloody Roar didn't either (as BR4 was fairly divisive).
@@KaminariHousewhat the hell is Mlp fim?
Crapcom has been pimping out Darkstalkers with costumes packs and characters popping up in their Vs series. That's not dying gracefully.
@@krle7970my little pony 4th series
Max, the problem was the timing of the KI 10 year anniversary edition. They tried to see if players would still play KI while at the same time new Street Fighter, new Mortal Kombat and new Tekken released... Now, don't get me wrong, I really like KI and want to support it, but dude, Tekken 8 is so F good it's impossible to play any other fighting game right now.
A new KI hopefully fingers cross.. on of my 3 favorita games after STF and Darkstalkers
I know some people are gonna get super mad about this but I feel that KI should be one of the games that bridges the gap to PlayStation, I say that as a fan of fighting games and Killer Instinct especially, the boost in players could certainly be beneficial to the game and given that there's the current resurgence in fighting games, what have they got to lose? I'd take the health of the game, an increased playerbase and the hopes of a sequel over exclusivity.
I’m just going to download it on PC. I love fighting games and I love watching KI. If there’s anything we can do as a community then we gotta stand up with them
Lets hope someone buys the rights to KI from Microsoft one day. Cause they dont have enough passion for it
Who should buy them?
@@nman551 Who *could/would* buy them?
@@RippahRooJizah I don’t know
@@RippahRooJizahNintendo
@@Limegreenedragon I don't see Nintendo caring enough to do that. Even over 20 years ago they didn't care enough to outbid MS.
... I really can't think of a series that's effectively been screwed as hard. Like, it feels like they're trying to forget it exists.
I would love for killer instinct to be ported to other platforms
I've been playing ki daily and I wasn't around when it was actually active
With the industry being in a state of spending too much money on a game's budget to the point of it needing to make an egregious amount back to be considered a success, Killer Instinct feels like it could be the right approach for Microsoft.
A project with a scale and budget that's more AA and can play the long game finanically without needing to make a return instantly. It's also something they could put it while they're busy working on bigger projects that will take more time to come out. Xbox needs more games in the market, they just don't need to be so big on scale.
To Microsoft not even a successful game is enough for them
So they simply don't care anymore
They should do the same that they did to Hi-Fi Rush and make it available on PS and Switch
Yep. This is the only way.
Microsoft isn’t a very well known “fighting game” platform. It’s mostly known for first person shooters & multiplayer online gaming. It doesn’t surprise me how Killer Instinct isn’t be supported or promoted on the Xbox series consoles.
>mostly known for first person shooters
Name at least one good FPS created by microsoft over the past 10 years.)
Fps and mp games are the most popular games on every system besides switch lol
I searched for a way to olay thr original KI and on PC besides MAME there is nothing now unless you got that special KI edition that they don't sell anymore.
With Microsoft bringing over exclusives to Playstation, wonder if Killer Instinct will come over too at some point.
This just reminds me of how capcom treats darkstalkers.
I don't think I've ever caught a video this fast, hype.
Let's download the game and learn/play it to show support. Fingers crossed.
Don't look forward to anything Microsoft's doing with Xbox
Love it when people don't understand how business works and just think Microsoft is cutting people left and right lol. Games and studios with low profit are being let go, it is what it is.
@@IntertwiningRoses ahem, what about tango gamework? they make hi-fi rush and lots of people love it even its always have good score in most review. But Microsoft just shut down them, why? well i do aware their other game its not that great (evil within, ghostwire) but they just got a chance to shine with hi-fi rush then microsoft just say "nope"
Edit : After checking other comment, i've been realized i was replying to microsoft ass licker lol
@@IntertwiningRosesbro is this Phil’s alt account 🤡 ? Why are you absolutely sucking the fuck out of Microsoft’s boots? Microsoft should not be buying ANY studios if they are gonna be shuttering them after they make one game for their absolute scam gamepass, they spent around what? 20 million to buy bethesda and all its subsidiary studios? Yet they just shuttered over half of them, they are making some of the worst “it’s business” decisions I’ve ever seen in my life, stop being a Xbot and lapping up whatever they shit out for you
@@IntertwiningRoses that's a weird thing to love. Try loving something or someone else
@@IntertwiningRosesOk Phil.
Don't think killer instinct will ever be as big as a Tekken or street fighter numbers wise
M$ barely gave it a budget, in the 1st place. They let Amazon swipe the dev from them, kept cutting the game's budget year-after-year, and even crowd funded Shadow Jago's development. All this WHILE SF5 was popular on PS4, which they didn't get..... they didn't WANT to compete, and it was obvious. Fuck M$.
And this is very good. Hate this Final Fantasy like stuff with endless parts.
Anything that isn't going to be a huge direct cash injection into their investors' pockets is going to be tossed in a dumpster. That ActiBlizzKing acquisition cost a pretty penny and stockholders do NOT like to wait for returns.
Microsoft: It's MY IP to sit on and do nothing with!!!
Is that a quote from "Smiling Friends"? 😂 the fat gaming CEO that refuses to make a new Gwimbly game?
I love that show. That line just kept running through my mind as I listened to Max pontificate about this KI crisis...😂
Yep, I actually had hope we were getting a sequel for the Series X/S launch
I wouldn't hold my breath, i'm not entirely sure what industry MS and Xbox is in right now, it's not the games industry.
Billy Goat bragged that "vaccine" investments yielded better than 20 to 1, profit. People are the new $.
Maybe Microsoft wanted to become the new "Old" Konami because Konami is now releasing games again. How long it took Konami to snap out of that phase? 10 years?
After that Pachinko phase (and Kojima constantly blowing budgets on anything he does who also was a problem).
I don't even like Killer Instinct but I seriously hope it comes back for those that want it
I mean Microsoft is done is general since they basically shut down Xbox. At this point the best bet at a new ki game is for Microsoft to sell the ip.
They don't sell it. While others don't have it - no one will use it against them. Don't forget, this Microsoft after all
They will put 0 energy into keeping these franchises alive. It’s all just going to die. Toys for Bob escaping Sony was a miracle, and this is Microsoft. Empty suits.
Microsoft and selling their ips? Not gonna happen. They think the way to win in the console market is by buying as many studios as possible and doing nothing with them until they die.
We all know the results of that.
Thhey didn't shut down xbox. The fuck you're on about?
Max.... Where did you get that shirt? That's the iconic 1994 Alien vs Predator arcade characters. That was one my favorite arcade Beat-Em-Ups back then. 🔥💯
Dont tell me bro. Xbox really has bought so many great studios then gave up on making games
The thing is, KI was stuck on a Microsoft console and its only popular in the FGC.
Right now is like the perfect time for another ki. Fighting games are doing great
They are sitting on an IP series that contains one of the best (and personal favourite) FG ever made. In this new era of Fighting Games, a new KI with extra polish would be amazing. I truly believe it would catch on and become a major game for both casual and pro play.
I don't understand why Microsoft hates and sabotages the particularly good games they have, but I do expect it now.
... paradigm shift to NWO. Listen to Bill Gates' Ted Talks 🤔
Matt Booty, Sarah Bond and Phil Spencer together with Microsoft corporate and financing absolutely murdered Xbox. The brand is dead, the games rarely come out, and they are all about selling us slop right now.
I'm on the pessimist side on this one, even if we were to raise more awareness, hold more events, the way it's going at Microsoft especially after the closing of Arkane and Tango (and I'd say Ninja Theory might be next), tells me that if it isn't a cash cow like CoD, Elder Scrolls or most Blizzard IPs, they're not going to prioritize making new games. Pretty sure with the current closures they had, they're going to prioritize the big IPs that'll pay back their investment.
Even if they were to port KI to other platforms, with crossplay, I don't think it would be enough to turn MS's head over the idea of greenlighting another game. Basically most scenarios aren't optimistic due to how big and expensive it is to develop games of this caliber.
NT will definitely be next. They will either be disbanded or sold to someone.
They've made 2 games already and both failed. By the way, the head of NT, who was at the founding of the company, left the studio a long time ago. But that happened after NT was bought by MS.
@@BiriBiri925 yeah, I saw about Tameem leaving the company. Definitely a big warning sign considering how well Hellblade 1 did. But after Bleeding Edge failed and the reception for Hellblade 2 not being as big, it doesn't bode well for them.
Its funny that even my old manager who I swear never really played games, knew and enjoyed KI. It will always be a game in my eyes that was underrated as hell and microsoft isnt really helping anymore and thats such a shame
Microsoft made sure KI wouldn’t be a household name anymore just like Halo, Banjo.
they have literally killed everything. does phil work for playstation? like seriously. what in the hell are they doing?
@@WhatisReal11 in that case he would have let Sony get all these studios. I think he is trying to kill the gaming scene completely, thats why he buys as many studios as possible to do nothing with them and shutting them down. Just so that there are less studios who could make games for other consoles.
@@unskilledgamer3642nah companies of being doing that for decades, EA notoriously
@@WhatisReal11Out of touch, shortsighted buisness suits who know nothing about the audience they have.
But Game Pass will save everything right... right? How them sales doing again..
If Microsoft was smart they would invest in a new Killer Instinct game. That game still has a strong and loyal fan base. Tournament scene is STILL active
Man Darkstalkers revenge all over again.
KI is unfortunately one of those franchises that was ahead of its time, influenced the other major fgc games with bigger combos and manuals within combos, so on and so forth, to disappear. No major fgc company backing, and legacy loyalist has killed off the gamez
Microsoft are clowns.....don't expect anything from them.
As a tekken player, KI has been my 2nd favorite fighting game to watch, both online and locally (I've been to every combo breaker since it started). But I've never gotten to play it since it's not on Playstation. I'd definitely buy it if it became available
Microsoft need to give KI over to rare and Nintendo need to buy rare back since Microsoft don't have no interest in the franchise or the development company
Nintendo bot buying rare back in the day was easily the biggest flunder of the whole company
Imagine if Nintendo brokers a deal with Microsoft to buy back Rare and their IPs, then starts contracting PlayTonic to work on them.
😂 no way
Someone else need to pick up KI if Microsoft can’t do anything with it
Microsoft owns it. Nobody is picking it up.
Bar-God.. ttop gonna be a good battle
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Honestly....There may be a chance Iron Galaxy can actually get the rights. They're owned by Amazon, and can probably have Amazon be the publisher.
If you made a new video on the history of the series, we will re-share it endlessly!!!
The dream is seeing the KI 1 and 2 vibes in 4K, and bring in all the goodness from KI 2013.
I was there in the arcade back in the day, and spent more years on emulator before KI 2013 came out. I am so excited for KI 4 one day.
KI's biggest flaw was being a Microsoft exclusive. I don't even dislike Microsoft, but they should have made it multi-platform.
KI need come back to the mayor leagues, need to shine in evo again and PS5 version X/S crossplay is the way to save KI
I love killer instinct since 1999 and even though i don't play it that much anymore and never played the 2013 game i still love the series it's sucks that its always getting Left in the dust by tekken street fighter and mortal Kombat
Another sad point is this weird fact that, outside of Mortal Kombat, there has never been a fighting game series that remained relevant and mainstream for a long period that wasn't Japanese. Killer Instinct was close were it not for that 17ish year time gap, and no others really come close.
Would have been nice to see KI do the same but, alas, it wasn't to be.
As a kid always wanted to see killer instinct vs mortal Kombat two American fighting games in a crossover game
I got myself an Xbox series X and the first thing i did was Download KI. That was the first game i wanted to play. That and Palworld. But i had been sitting around watching KI gameplay for years. KI was one of my favorite games on the SNES as a kid. Its what really got me into a fighting game. Sure SF2 helped alot too. But KI was what really made me go, Woah. These are really fun. And then came MK Trilogy which was the First MK game i ever got my hands on and had fun with that. But KI was the one game i truly loved in the Fighting scene. And that opened my eyes to games like Darkstalkers, then Blazblue. All cause KI was super influential on me. And yes i also do play smash, but that game came along more as me being a Nintendo fan and always had imaginary battles on who would win, Samus or Fox and all that. But seriously Long Live KI
Did the same but with Gamepass on mobile and it was an absolutely terrible experience.
Even worse when Apple took away HDMI out through lightning. Talk about phukking the end user over.
People have spoken up more about the desire for a Killer Instinct sequel than they have for anything else in the fighting game world. And Microsoft just disrespectfully craps all over it. They’re total idiots
The expectation is that the publishers are planning for the next generation... but they're not. They're just trying to milk the current generation.
Microsoft: we want people to give us money, buuuuuut we dont want to make anything.....
Oh do make games, they just don't care about franchises.
@@orangeslash1667 no they care about franchises. Only triple A ones. If you make an Indie Darling youre gonna be sold so the investors can get a nice bonus. (RIP TANGO)
@@JOfJaZ The only reason KI was green lite is because Microsoft needed a launch tile for the Xbox one and Ken Lobb suggested KI because he worked with KI before.
It says here that the most resent thing Iron Galaxy has done was porting Apex Legends to the Switch.
The goods news is that Rare confirmed that Fatal Fury was the biggest inspiration for KI and Fatal Fury just got a new game.
killer instinct was the entire reason why i even owned a xbox one lol
Microsoft is their own worst enemy when trying to foster a work environment where creativity flows. They used to let people create passion projects and that's how we even got KI to begin with. MS/Xbox didn't secure Iron Galaxy soon enough to make a second one, so now we're in the waiting game. I HOPE Iron Galaxy is making a second one. Jez Cordon has been talking about KI a lot in the last six months on his podcast and mentioned it just last week on Twitter. I think he's trying to find the pulse of the fans to see if Xbox made an announcement if fans would be behind it. Of course we would. What MS doesn't realize, that some in Xbox did, is with time and work, KI can make them a lot of money. I hope we get an announcement next weekend. It's very high on my list of most anticipated games. /copium
Nobody should actually pay Jez any attention because that dude is basically the living representation of those meme graphs showing "It's Over, ITS SO OVER, WE'RE BACK, it's over... WE'RE SO BACK," on top of also basically lying over social media about what he does and doesn't know about shit behind the scenes.
I hope not man,I love KI so much.