Part 1; 223 REM; Lee 225-55-RF
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- Опубликовано: 12 июл 2022
- Trying some Lee 55g (225-55-RF). Using Unique, Shooters World Blackout, and IMR4198. These are powder coated with Eastwood Ford Light Blue, Gas checked, and sized .225. All shots were at 50 yards.
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nice video man, always cool to see cast bullet loads
Man - I still have a bunch of those that you sent, Josh! I did run some in my slow-twist bench AR. I should put some through the Remington 788’s in .222 and .223!
Well done, those last two groups were very acceptable. I’m sending this video along to my brother, who is getting into casting for the .223.
🙏♥️🤘🏼♥️ Hello Josh!
If this was a recently cast bullet. Meaning say within the last week. You may want to do the whole thing over in about couple 23 more weeks. Bullets or freshly cast bullets really need to stabilize before you get the best results out of them. Perfectly safe to shoot them the day you cast them, but you're probably gonna get better accuracy if you allow them to stabilize for a month or so. That amount of time will vary based on your alloy but it's safe to say in a few weeks to a month they're going to probably be as stable as they're going to get. You'll notice with cast bullets you can get away with a lot more with a handgun or a handgun caliber, but once you step into rifles we're pressures go explanationally higher, you really need to dot your "I's" and cross your "T's" and be on your game to get the best results.
They’ve been sitting loaded on my bench for about 2 weeks. They were cast about a month ago.
@@243Outdoors ok they should be as stable as they can be. 🤟🏽👍🏼👍🏼
Gee, Josh - I could send back some of the ones you sent me a few years ago - those are certainly aged sufficiently!
Good test. Pretty good results. I will be testing some more cast .223 in the fall. Mike.
Thank you for the video. Just got into reloading and am doing my research. Looking forward to watching more. Thanks!
Most excellent, Josh. That’s some of the best groups I’ve ever seen that bullet shoot. It seems to be much more accurate from a bolt gun than semi-auto. Thanks Buddy.
That bullet will shoot, Jamie. The challenge is making it both shoot and reliably cycle an AR in anything other than a 20” 1:12 twist barrel. I’ve printed a couple 1” range 5 shot groups at 100 yards with that sort of setup, 1 1/2 to 2 is more typical. I’ll try to get busy and work on videos of that bullet in 22 Hornet, .222 and .223 bolt guns.
They did pretty good.
Nice job my friend both the IMR and SW worked nicely
I was just testing these with IMR4227 and had great results at 13gr and 14gr. On to part 2 now...
Not bad grouping. Nice
Wow great accuracy well done. I knew eventually you’d find an accuracy node for your 55gr cast lead bullets. Different rifles also change the grouping size. If you have a .223 bolt action vs an AR or a longer barrel bolt it might be worth a test to see if the grouping gets better with longer barrels and different twists etc.
Good testing 👍
Thanks
Nice groups, I load these 55gr Lee powdercoated no GC with 15.5gr of IMR 4198 or Acc 1680 getting 2275fps. Enough to cycle my AM-15. Ordered the 77gr 5 cavity Elvis mold from Arsenal, cant wait to try that one
whats your barrel length and hows the accuracy if i may ask?
@@programix8432 16 inches, in my 2nd Anderson 5.56 theyre not great, need to break in the barrel more with fmj but my first Anderson has about 5k of these 55gr lead casts through it and its accuracy is great out to 300yds. About 6in groups. Finally decided to start adding gas checks next 1k and see how they do since I gas check my 7.62x39, 30-30 and 6.5CM casts. I really just wanted to make a thrifty target load for .223/5.56 but want to push them towards 3k fps, at 2275 no gas check they still create a devastating wound channel in my knox gel blocks.
@@JaredHempfield Thanks for the info, I'm from Poland so i'm not planning to use gas checks as i cant find any in stores. I can't wait till i start making them and save a lot of money.
@@programix8432 If you're powdercoating them then they really dont need gas checks. I havent gotten any barrel leading without them. I would love to make my own, 70 dollars for 1k gas checks is crazy. Might as well be buying jacketed bullets.
@@JaredHempfield I'll test it on my cheap AR first, but if it works without any leading it would be great. Especially as i'm planning to shoot it at close range where velocity matters less. I still have to buy most tools but i can't wait!
Thanks , I've been wanting to try some CFE blk with a 55 gr cast in my bolt gun . Without any data I wasn't sure where to start at . Should be close to the SW Blackout .
Yeah it should be very similar.
WOW. i just got done casting a bunch of these up, when i decided to see if anything on youtube was worth watching. I have tried a variety of powders with this bullet in a savage axis and found that BLc(2) and IMR4350 gave best groups at 100Yds so far. Waiting for powder shortage to ease up to get my hands on some Win 748 or IMR 4198 to try. Keep up the good work, this is some good info.
Thanks, I have some BLC2 also, I may have to give it a try too.
@@243Outdoors found my notes, 22.0gn of BLc(2) gave me 2420fps on average with a ES of 71 with 10 shots. Notes show that first 5 shots went in 1moa group while next 5 shots opened the group up to a 4 3/4 in. at 100yds. The IMR 4350 load was taken from the 1999 IMR reloading guide using a 55SPSX bullet, REM case, REM 7 1/2PR, HDY 55SPSX, COAL 2.260 - IMR 4350-26.0c-2605-34800cup, also shows IMR 4831-26.0c-2415-31300cup. Not using gas checks, water Quinching from the oven from powder coating, pan lubing, and sizing to .225. COAL 2.100, IMR4350-25.5-2515fps ave, 2 3/4 in group at 100yds with 20 shots, with a ES of 37. Shot out of a Savage Axis.
I have been trying this test with no good results. I was using h335 and Benchmark and was assuming they needed to be gas checked. Was wondering if you know the BHN or bullet hardness of your cast.
Do you resize to 224? How fast can you get with cast gas check 223? I'm aiming for 2900 to 3k fps.
Excuse me for the dumb question but what is the purpose for that type of low velocity round.
You can’t push a cast bullet as fast as a jacketed one. Just cheap plinking.
Another use might just be a replacement for a 22 long rifle. Cost of those have gone up quite a bit and availability is sporadic. So as a hand loader you're able to tailor a load to your exact needs.
Paper targets don't know how fast the bullet is going .
You may not need to gas check at the velocities your pushing... I've tested air cooled & powder coated WW cast at 1800 fps in .308 without any leading... no gas check... here are two videos, one testing large cavity MP sledgehammer on a deer analog target and the second video is cleaning to determine if the load lead fouled the barrel.
I've tested reduce loads using 40 grn SJHP made for the 22 TCM in .223. Had very good results with 7 grains of Blue Dot. Near MOA accuracy at 100 yards.
MP 131 grn .309 Sledgehammer (~1800 fps)
ruclips.net/video/fotWAD3dn3Y/видео.html
Cleaning after about 50 rounds of the above load:
ruclips.net/video/gsYVOjVWj4Q/видео.html
Why are you putting such small loads in your reloads?
Great video. I like the load development & cast bullets. Nice work.
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Fine idea, Matthew! I could use a couple for the Ruger American Ranch!
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