I grew up as a Christian and off course I am older now still trying to understand why Jesus had to die for the sins of humanity and even after watching this video still doesn't make sense to me
@@nourelechemin1825 yes no problem but I'm just a little busy these days with a lot of stuff in my life and plus that I don't think it's a good idea right here because this is a very long discussion
@@rayzumot7840it's quite simple, really, so as we know God is just right? And what's the rule of the wage of sin? The wage of sin is death. God COULD just denounce that and forgive us but that way he'd be breaking the rules. While God ISN'T limited by the rules, he's just, and a just God wouldn't do that now would he?
Because Its not designed to be made sense, Its designed to mislead us about the truth about Jesus. Its basically the old testament jews lying to us and putting Jesus in the context of their sacrifices to their Gods. The death of Jesus is a clear reflection of what happened in the Old Testament which by the way talks about demon worship. Jehovah is not the real God- real God doesn’t require sacrifice. Real God is love .
Wonderful explanation! Thankyou 😊 I've been asked this question in the past and felt that I struggled to give a satisfactory answer, this is so helpful 🤗
@@letsknow1491 I had the same question myself, but when I read the bible it made sense..... if Jesus is God (and He is) then He Lays down His Own life for the sins of mankind, and He does it because He is merciful and kind, and He loves us. Thank God! He doesn't want that mankind perishes because of their sins, He wanted to offer salvation and freedom from sin......
@@believewithyourheart5627 what about this verse.. Mathew 27:46 About three in the afternoon Jesus cried out in a loud voice, “Eli, Eli,[a] lema sabachthani?” (which means “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”) You said Jesus died willingly then what about this verse??? Why is he crying to God ??? This verse clearly says Jesus has God which indicates Jesus is not God. God cannot have God my friend????
@@letsknow1491 Hebrews 1:3 He is the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint of his nature, and he upholds the universe by the word of his power. After making purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high, So there is God the Father, unmanifest creator of all things, and there is His only son who is God manifest in the flesh..... the exact imprint of His Fathers nature..... John 10:18 no one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father." To me it makes perfect sense 🤗✝️
Im glad u got it because i didnt He still didnt answer if God has all power why cant he just take sin away? No one seems to be able to answer that question out right
1. No one can die for the sins of another. Exodus 32:30-35 Deuteronomy 24:16 Jeremiah 31:29-30 Ezekiel 18 Psalm 146:3 2. A Blood Sacrifice isn't needed to forgive sin. Genesis 4:7 Exodus 22:3-14 Exodus 34:6-7 Leviticus 5:11-13 Numbers 5:6-7 Numbers 14:17-19 Numbers 16:47 Numbers 31:50 I Samuel 15:22 II Samuel 12:16 I Kings 8:38-39 I Kings 41:43 I Kings 8:46-50 II Kings 12:16 Isaiah 6:6-7 Isaiah 55:6-7 Jeremiah 7:22-23 Hosea 14:2 Jonah 3:5-10 Micah 6:6-8 Psalm 32:3-5 Psalm 34:14 Psalm 51:16-17 Proverbs 21:3 Proverbs 28:13 Job 33:26 II Chronicles 7:14 3. God will never accept a Human Sacrifice. Deuteronomy 12:30-31 Jeremiah 19:4-6 Ezekiel 16:20 Psalm 106:37-38 Context and eisegesis won't cover it I'm afraid. The Hebrew bible is clear. God forgives sins if we repent. This of course would challenge your position in that Paul stated 'Christ has died for nothing', that would be to say, a 1st century tekton and illiterate Jew died at the hands of the Romans, eagerly believing himself to be the soon to reign Davidic king. 2000 years ontop of that means Christian apologists will have to work a little harder to explain their position. I do think they are asking good questions though and this video covers an unpopular topic. Good attempt and have a good day.
Read Hebrews and Leviticus. The life of the flesh is in the blood. Blood covers atonement for one's soul. All of the verses you mentioned are about unclean human. The Bible clearly states that all humans except Jesus Christ are impure and unclean and are sinners. Therefore , if a human himself is unclean , then how can be used as an atonement for people's sins to make themselves clean? About the blood sacrifice one , none of the verses mention that. They all mention that God is forgiving and merciful. But we need to first repent and turn to God for mercy. Now we commit a lot of sins that are unknown and unnoticed in our eyes. So , it is impossible for us to make atonement and repent every time for all the sins we do. Therefore , God sent His Son Jesus Christ , who is sinless , to be offered as a final offering for our sin , so that no more future sacrifice is required. As Hebrews says , Christ entered the Holy Temple once and for all to offer the final sacrifice for our sins. And thats why Jesus said on the cross "It is finished". What is finished? The redemptive plan of God to offer the atonement for all of mankind's past , present and future sins is finished. Spent the amount of time invested in belittling Christianity to learn about it.
@@Michele-td5lj the Old Testament was correct. If it was incorrect , it would not have been the Word of God , for Word of God is perfect. But to study the Old Testament , the New Testament needs to be there , as it explains the Old Testament and adds more meaning to it. Just as Jesus said , He did not come to abolish the Law but to fulfill it. Correcting it , basically means destroying it , as it contains mistakes and making it correct
That’s why Jesus the SON became flesh and died for our sins. It was GOD himself that partook in humanity as a perfect human and died for our sins. It’s not just human sacrifice since it was GOD
My answer is yes. He forgave in the Old Testament and forgave us before he died. He died because of his Sacrifiicial love for us. And he overcame death. He rose again! That is great news!
I don't think the Church is supposed to waste it's time entertaining the notion that you can question God instead of removing zionists, lucifarians and other agents of Satan from this land.
Because he can’t answer the question because his religion doesn’t make any sense when directly questioned. If god can do anything, then he can forgive without Jesus. If he can’t, then he’s not all powerful and isn’t a god worth worship.
@@HelloCompanion You don't yet have ears to hear . Sad . You're calling for an unjust God . Like a dirty cop , sort of . He sees someone he loves speeding and looks the other way . Strangers he tickets . A good cop would give his loved one the ticket . It's fair , honest and lawful . That's what God did. He's a just God . He gave us the ticket . Then , because He loves us so much , He paid for it Himself. It cost Him dearly . I pray you come to understand .
Im glad u got it because i didnt He still didnt answer if God has all power why cant he just take sin away? No one seems to be able to answer that question out right
God is a Perfect Being and still loved us, but couldn`t have a relationship with imperfect beings, so his Solution was to Send Jesus Christ his son to Pay off the Sin Debt, so we can have Fellowship with God the father.@@anggee3371 Christ Paid our Debt.
@@anggee3371 God Almighty do have the power to forgive your sin without any human sacrifices.... God is the Most forgiving...Most Merciful.... But whosoever repents after his crime and does righteous good deeds (by obeying God), then verily, God will pardon him (accept his repentance). Verily, Godis Of the Forgiving, Most Merciful” [Quran 5:39)
Why does God ask us to forgive others but yet he condemns so many to hell? It also says “it pleased the father to bruise the son” what loving God would want to see his son beaten to death and hung on a cross? Since God can do anything, then why couldn’t he solve the problem of sin in the world?
Jesus is God made flesh. God was pleased to take the punishment for us. Also God is a GOOD God. Therefore he chooses to limit himself on a way so he can only do what is just, righteous, and moral. Jesus just forgiving people despite them being guilty would be unrighteous so in-order to keep his good holy character he would have to find a loophole. A way he can keep his good character and still be with us (since sin separates us from God because of his holy nature). Gods loophole was to send himself down in flesh (Jesus) to better relate to his peoples experiences like temptations, insecurities, etc, to teach us the correct way to walk with God, and lastly to die on the cross for our sins.
Also God didn’t create hell. The bible says he created the heavens and the earth. Darkness (which when you look at the original language that it was written in is more figurative meaning wickedness, evil, death, hardship, destruction, sin, stuff like that) covered the surface of the formless earth. This makes sense because God is a good God. In order to be truly good he would have had to give us free will. The only way for us to have free will is for both darkness and light to exist hence why he didn’t destroy it in the beginning instead he separated it from us. The garden of eden was were adam and eve exercised that free will and they (an example of humanity as a whole) chose darkness. Mankind being more inclined to sin God knew he would need to create a loophole which was sending himself down to die and fulfill the law thus covering everyones sins so we could all be forgiven. A human sacrifice wouldn’t work because humans inherently are sinful by nature of not being perfect (if we were perfect we would be God). It had to be a man who was fully God and fully human aka Jesus! God came down as flesh as said in John 1 of the bible and he related to our daily hardships (relationships with others, insecurities, temptations, etc), he taught us how we were meant to follow/live, and eventually died on the cross for our sins. Paying the price that only a loving God could pay. So he had to do it this way to maintain his consistent good godly character. God paid the cost of sin and he did simply forgive our sins he just did it while remaining a Good, Just, and Righteous God. I hope that makes sense let me know if it doesn’t and we can continue talking :)
@@lapris7380 Good explanation except God DID create hell. If God didn’t create hell, who do you think created it? No other being has the power to create anything.
But who was the debt paid to? Like was there an unspoken law between someone/something else that said if your creation fails they're mine and if they do then the only way for you to get them back is to die?
Clearly it was God who paid God? A lot doesn’t make logical sense. I mean a simple Lord please forgive me I have sinned before you. I forgive you would of worked. I mean he did do this a couple times in the Old Testament in 1-2 Kings and 1-2 Samuel. But for the most part a type of sacrifice had to be made in order for him to forgive us. It’s like you punching me in the face and me demanding your wife die in order for me to forgive you.
@@IHIuddyYour analogy doesn't work because it diminishes the seriousness of sin. Remember, Jesus SUFFERED AND DIED for it. That's how awful it is. Sin is a crime against the infinite, most high, most holy God. Picture someone pissing all over the original Mona Lisa (not a copy of it) or some other extremely valuable object, and magnify that crime by a billion
@@IHIuddy Yes, He can be offended by our sins. If you're implying that's impossible, I don't see why that would be. Putting it as "God sent Himself to appease Himself" is technically true but ignores two things: 1. Jesus and the Father are two Persons of the Trinity; they are both God but they are also two Persons. It's hard to understand but that's a whole different discussion. 2. It ignores the act of love it is. God the Father sent His Son, Jesus the Son of God, to sacrifice Himself for us (He volunteered for it, mind you). Figuratively, He took a bullet meant for you. Sure, He came back to life, but He still suffered TREMENDOUSLY, poured out His Blood for you, and the point of the Resurrection was to prove that the promise of eternal life is no lie; we will be resurrected into new bodies like Him in the future. Sin is a cancer, a poison that corrupts and taints our very souls, and the Blood of Jesus is the only thing that can wash it away. It cleanses us so that we may enter Heaven and be with our Heavenly Father. The Father is all Good, all Holy, all Love, all Justice. But justice demands that evil, sin, be destroyed. But He loves us too much to destroy us, so instead He took the Judgement upon Himself/His Son so that we may be pronounced innocent on Judgement Day. The Blood of Christ will wash our record clean, and the Father, acting as the Almighty Judge, will look upon us as being perfect and righteous for the sake of His Son despite all that we've done. No, that doesn't mean we can sin as we please; any true believer would not WANT to sin because they would genuinely love God and want to please Him rather than shame Him. This Atonement shows us how much God loves us in how far He will go to suffer for us, how much He is willing to give (Remember, NOBODY ASKED HIM TO DO THIS for us, He could just as well have not have done it) It also shows Christ's victory over sin and death: He bore all of our sins, took them to hell with Him and left them there when He came back; His Resurrection demonstrating His victory over Death itself, as well. FYI when we speak of God's wrath, it's not like God the Father is stomping around heaven, looking for someone to smash. God's wrath is justice being applied destructively, and because He is Holy and Good and Just, His wrath is never misapplied.
The Bible says in the beginning was the word and the word was God and the word was with God! When Adam n Eve partook of the forbidden fruit, they have the power of death to the devil and because of the original sin they could not reclaim it , so God , Jesus and the Holy Spirit sat down to resolve the issue and three things occurred :- The angel gabriel pulled out a book (Gods word) as the solution to the problem (read the book of Hebrews) in which it clearly states that there was no forgiveness without the shedding of blood !!!! The shedding of blood word redeem the word and consequently grab the key to death back , so the three day and it is written that the earth is but a foot stool to Jehovah meaning he definitely could not come down and die for us coz he is toooo tooo mighty n the earth is too small for him , the holy spirit is a spirit (manager , comforter etc ) so he too did not qualify as the sacrificial lamb then Jesus being the son of God was the only suitable one for the sacrifice ! He was made flesh but though being a spirit born through a woman who by nature of being human had inherited the original sin and as such Jesus had to die as a human as the ultimate sacrifice for all our sins and finally defeated death . He said he is in the father and the father in him meaning they love us all unconditionally that they were willing to do that for us sinful beings just so we wouldn’t die (spiritual death) . He sacrificed himself for us to atone for our sins
@@davidstrelec2000 if you said Jesus volunteered himsel...can you explain this.. And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, “Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?” that is to say, “My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken Me?” Matthew 27:46
yes. But now we don't go to hell if we believe. And all suffering is guaranteed by God to turn out for our good in this life. To prepare us for Heaven.
I'm curious how and when belief became the mechanism of salvation. We didn't have to believe our way into our sin nature but the sacrifice that was made is insufficient or inactive in covering us until we believe that it was made. That's a bit difficult to understand and maybe the confusion comes from thinking about the sacrifice in terms of debt. If I write a check to pay off a mortgage, the debt goes from being owed to having been paid. Personal beliefs on the matter are irrelevant
Hey good vid. i got a friend who is muslim that im trying to convert but he doesnt believe because of the judgement system is just so wrong in the bible like Exodus 21:20-21 what can i say as a response maybe?
I hope you found your answer. Find the contextual passages that demonstrate if you beat your slave you have to set him free, and that you have to love your neighbor as yourself even in the OT, and also how the abuser wouldnt be put to death, but he would be required to nurse his slave back to health and pay him b4 releasing him. God bless ✝️
"for he is his property" is rendered in other translations as "for he is his money": what this means is the slave master already paid the price for beating his slave in how much work & money he lost out on via the slave being unable to work. But I wouldn't bother debating about the Bible and slavery to non-christians anyway, people get WAY too emotional when it comes to this topic that they can't see reason, so it's not use.
@super-shocker3239 When people ask me about those particular laws I always say those are the law of man not the law of God. Moses was given Gods law. The 10 is the law of God they are the laws of peace. You read other laws for example in Book of Deuteronomy those are the laws of man. In scripture it says an eye for an eye. That law is judiciary. Like capital punishment today man’s law. There is Gods judgement and there is man’s judgement. That is how I would explain it.
We needed a mediator between man and God someone who knew the holiness and righteousness of God and one who knew what it was like to be a human and walk in our shoes to suffer how we suffer and to understand completely.
Im glad u got it because i didnt He still didnt answer if God has all power why cant he just take sin away? No one seems to be able to answer that question out right
Being just requires some level of detachment in order to not be bias and remain neutral which contradicts the idea of benevolence a benevolent being can just forgive. Being just and benevolent is a oxymoron
King James Bible Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ: cross references: Colossians 1:20 and through Him to reconcile to Himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through the blood of His cross. Romans 5:11 Not only that, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation. Acts 10:36 He has sent this message to the people of Israel, proclaiming the gospel of peace through Jesus Christ, who is Lord of all.
Still makes absolutely no sense at all. So if Jesus hadn't died for our sin how would it be any different?. We still get eternal punishment for our sin right?.
God did just forgive in the Jewish scripture, the sacrifices where for unintentional sin and guilt offerings. For intentional sin you had to repent ,and God would forgive. Ezekiel chapter 18 tells us each is responsible for their own sin. And that God forgives when we do what is right . Proverbs 17, 15 He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, both are abominable before God .
I think the greatest evidence of Human Sacrifice is the example of Jesus. The idea that blood somehow has the power of vanishing sins its an unsolved mystery. These are subjects that often people avoid to discuss because of the implications it can bring to the current religious beliefs and traditions. Why can't we forgive by simply stating it? or Pay a fine like when someone gets a speeding ticket because of a traffic violation? The idea of sacrificing an innocent Animal or a Human to appease a angry deity is mindbogglingly in itself.
Jesus foretold that the miraculous sign that would be shown through him would be the sign of Jonah. Jonah was ALIVE in the belly of the fish for 3 days and 3 nights. A miracle of survival tot revival, Most time a minimum of 36 hours and some time up to 9 or 10 days, yet Jesus "died" in 6 hours. When he was put in the sepulchre, Nicodemus brought myrrh and aloes, plants that are considered medicinal and applied to wounds for healing the living, not for embalming the dead.
Lucifer was not created in the image of God. We have a relationship with him like no other has ever had. He died on the cross and took OUR sins earning OUR forgiveness. He didn’t die for Lucifer’s or anyone else’s.
"Why can't God just forgive sin without Jesus' death?", Matt 9:1-6 states he did. Clearly Yeshua had not yet been put to death yet he pronounced sins forgiven. In practical terms this illustrates "Substitutional Atonement" theory is error.
Good question If god has all power why couldnt he just forgive sin without coming down in the flesh? I dont believe anyone has the answer Its all a mystery and maybe one day it will be revealed
Jesus could have designed humans to be Peter Perfect & Picture Book classics ..but design faults were made which are now blamed on the end user, not the manufacturer...Amen
What happened after Jesus gave his life? The world is exactly the same and probably worse off. After the Christian church was formed, virtually every war involving Christians had a religious origin. For example, the 30 Years War (1618) waged Catholic Christians against Protestant Christians and was the bloodiest war in history until WWII. The Christians in that war fought to determine who interpreted the Bible correctly. 8 million people died, and >50% of all Germans. You could even say, "Because of Jesus, people sinned even more."
There is no original sin: Prophet Adam asked forgiveness and was forgiveness by God: 7:23 They said, "Our Lord, we have wronged ourselves, and if You do not forgive us and have mercy upon us, we will surely be among the losers." - Saheeh International 2 37 Then Adam received from his Lord [some] words, and He accepted his repentance. Indeed, it is He who is the Accepting of repentance, the Merciful. Jesus prayed to God to be saved from crucifixion and God accepted his prayer: Hebrews 5:7 During the days of Jesus’ life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with fervent cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission. Note: Jesus prayer to be saved from crucifixion was accepted by God.
Jesus died because he entered politics. He spoke about overthrowing the Roman rulers. He had to go which was very common back then if you challenged authority, Dying for our sins nonsense was added in later by his followers to explain his death. Amen
If Jesus died to pay your sin debt then he would still be dead. Thats the wages for your sins, eternal death. No one can pay your sin debt. You must repent for your own sins. This is the ONLY propiation for sins and always has been. The prodigal son, Zavheus, and king David are prime examples that the Father DOES just forgive us IF we return to him. Ezekiel 18. Read the bible folks.
its SIN why SIN required to enter heaven?!??! and GAMBLING with your soul ANOTHER sin!, nowonder codex gigas has picture of heaven with a big fat ZERO of population!
@@NightmareRex6 Because to do so it would be contrary to his nature. It's not hard to imagine the disgust society has for child predators, rapists, serial killers and more. What is hard to imagine is that that level of disgust and hate is even more pronounced when God looks at even the smallest of sin.
That still doesnt explain why God doest just take away sin. If he has all power why did he have to come down as Jesus in the flesh in order to forgive sin I still dont get it Its so complicated and no one can admit they dont have the answer
Because just "taking away sin" does not restore a broken relationship. To restore or have a relationship, both parties have to genuinely want to have each other. You can "just take away" the offence of a girlfriend who cheat on you; but unless she truly express remorse, the love is not there. The face that God was willing to die for our sins demonstrated both the magnitude and damage in the human nature, and the price God was willing to pay .
@@flamxzfr 1) Mosaic sacrificial laws. 2) James 2:23 “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness,” and he was called God’s friend". So even if there is any hypothetical edge cases in human history, God may opt to individually and exceptionally credit righteousness on the content of their belief and the closenest of that relationship to His sacrific on the Cross at different time.
Jesus forgave 2 different peoples sins without either of them making an animal sacrifice and before his own death. Their sins were not forgiven because of animal sacrifice because neither made one, and their sins were not covered by Jesus blood cause he was still alive. So, he broke gods own command not once but twice, by forgiving them. He was human and had to follow the same rules as humans and by going against gods command by forgiving them without sacrifice, Jesus just sinned. Which means he was not perfect. And you could say well he was god just in human form, and yes he was but he just broke his own rule and proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that sin can absolutely be forgiven without any sacrifice. In matthew Mark and Luke, the story of the man with palsy and again in Luke when Jesus is on the cross.
If I can forgive my son for smashing my window and drinking underage without killing my daughter that makes me a better person than God. It baffles me that the all powerful, loving, righteous God is either incapable or unwilling of forgiving out of love or he is just a narcissistic sociopath
Dude can u comprehend or u just want to oppose, the fact that he is just is the reason why there had to be death. He said in his word,” a soul that sins shld die” meaning only death ( the shedding of blood) is the only way to atone for sin. Now if he chose not to require the shedding of blood to atone for sin , would he still be jus? God cant go against his word because he’s perfect he cant contradict himself , this whole earth is held together by the integrity of his word if by any chance he goes against his word the whole earth, universe will collapse. Is that clear enough ?
Hey what ur saying is totally understandable but it’s also incorrect. We aren’t perfectly just or moral. If God is perfect, all sin deserves punishment.A rapist, a thief, even a liar. That is holiness. But God has given us a gift of forgiveness so now we can forgive others.
@@djdee_vine if God can't contradict himself then that is something God cannot do thus he is fallible. Also when God told Abraham to take his son to the top of the mountain and then kill his son. Only to change his mind later how is that not a contradiction? When God told Adam and Eve "on the day you eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge you will die" yet after eating of the apple of knowledge both of them were cast from the garden and lived for hundreds of years?
One point I would say that God couldn't just forgive humanity without a price being paid is it is akin to a judge just letting a criminal such as a murderer off the sentence, and saying I forgive your crime, we know that isn't right and that when a crime is committed there is a price to pay for that crime. God in His loving kindness sent His Son as there is no way for us to recompense God, we would be eternally separated otherwise. The purpose is that, yes, Christ Jesus became sin for us on the cross and our sins are nailed on the cross with Him, we need only accept what He did for us personally.
The question is Who is he paying the debt to? If he is God and has all power why cant he do it without the story of Jesus? Its very confusing No one has a direct answer Its all a mystery
God has a Perfect character and can Not Look upon Sin, So Jesus became Flesh and Blood Like us to sacrifice to create a Way to remove our Sin by faith in Jesus. Now God can Look upon us and Have a Relationship thru what his son did on the cross. Grace thru Faith.. Jesus took our Place, so a Perfect God can Love us, Bless us, and Have a Relationship with him.@@anggee3371
for sins of humanity or only those who worship him? Allah is merciful ,He does not need human blood. Jesu was a prophet,he is alive. He will come back. Islam says so.
Maybe god can't forgive so he must of went to earth became Jesus so he can decide to forgive which doesn't make sense so when priest's touch kids there forgiven not sure about that
Why would a god with billions of planets and stars to worry about be so hung up on the peccadilloes of insignificant human beings which Jesus and his dad allegedly designed. I think the yarns are made up to form another version of religion. Amen
And God promised not to send Another Flood to kill All Humanity! So he came into the Virgin Mary. People forget About Jesus's Mother! She was A Virgin and was chosen By Almighty God to deliver Jesus out of Her womb!
God cannot save you, since, in rebelliousness and stubbornness, humankind will continue to make the same earthbound mistakes till the end of time, thus creating their own sicknesses and miseries. Those who have insight and understanding will recognize that Christ has RETURNED... and explaining WHY he taught the principles of life which people now need so urgently to save themselves and the planet from wholesale disaster. There will be those who will receive the TRUTH with joy, since in their being they have known that beyond the religions of the world has been TRUTH - the REALITY of existence. These are the people who will prosper and will eventually save the world from self-annihilation. You cannot ignore the problems inherent in your individualized existence and believe that God will save you from them. Your only hope of final escape, of stepping off the treadmill of human experience, is to recognize and acknowledge them and then work minute-by-minute to transcend them and eventually merge, in purity of mind, heart and action, and become one with God who does the LOVE WORK.
That was a complicated tangle of thoughts and words. When something takes this long to explain it's not understood, or it's false, or both. Bible stories always take a long time time to explain.
Try understanding quantum theory then. If your idea of "reality must be simple" holds up - then quantum theory shouldn't even exist. Yet it does and it describes our universe as it is.
@@MrSeedi76 The Copernican model of the solar system was more complicated than the elliptical orbit model of the solar system. As models get better, they get more simple to understand and more simple to explain.
We are supposed to follow Jesus though. The end of Christianity is becoming an abuse victim? Yeah and we're supposed to become an abuse victim of our own free will. That's what God wants. For us to allow ourselves to be abused. Wow! He could treat you like crap your whole life, but you better praise him about how good he is, or he'll torture you for eternity.
You have to read Torah - Bible - Quran with neutral perception…and ask your heart which one is make sense and reveal the truth. The idea inside Jesus die for human sins will ENCOURAGE people to do bad things or killing without reason as the sins are already put on Jesus life which is he said he is Messenger of God and he said he pray to God with head to ground in early morning
Jesus never died on crucifixion as proverb 21:18 and He didn't atoned our sin, He is the god but he didnt die on cross. I am Christianity not Paulnity. I beleive and faith Jesus without he atoned my sin. Since he is the Name Of God itself.
😂 Good luck with that. Paul taught the same things Jesus did. This old lie that Paul "corrupted" the teaching of Jesus and the other apostles has been debunked decades ago. And, yes, Jesus died on the cross.
Walk into the British Library and you will find yourself surrounded by millions of books, why pick the Quran to compare to the Bible and why even choose the Bible?
God did not sacrifice Himself to Himself to safe us from Himself. I no longer believe Jesus died for our sins. God has always forgiven us. Sacrifice is a primitive man thing, not a God thing. How come we’re too good for sacrifice now? We find it abhorrent? How can we be more righteous than God? The only ones who practice sacrifice today are the Satanists and Luciferians. That says something right there. Jesus never said he had come to die for the sins of the world. They turned that into the gospel - a gospel ABOUT Jesus not the gospel OF Jesus. There is a spiritual awakening right now and the truth of God’s true gospel will be made known. That we are the sons of God and through faith in Him and loving service of our fellow man gains us eternal life. God wouldn’t expect us to forgive 70x and 7 and then He needs to see His perfect Son be horrifically murdered to forgive us. God is no hypocrite.
For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. Matthew:26:28 Honestly - I don't get this "new age Christianity" stuff. If you don't believe what's written down in the gospels, why should I believe you? You obviously know nothing at all about Jesus without the written gospels. And if you don't believe what Jesus followers wrote about Him, you certainly don't expect us to believe your version of Jesus.
The Father DOES just forgive us if we repent. No death of Jesus ever happened. If he died to pay our sin debt, then he would still be dead. Thats the wages of sin, eternal death. No prophecy ever said anyone would die to atone for sins. Repentance has always been the only propiation for sins.
From the standpoint of God, redemption is not necessary - because everyone is already UNCONDITIONALLY FORGIVEN. The teachings on FORGIVENESS is about FORGIVING ourselves and others, so that we can move on and NOT remain stuck in the pain of the past.
God the Father can’t forgive sin - He can only punish sinners with the death penalty because of His profound and transcendent Holiness. So, the Lord Jesus Christ was punished *in our place*. It’s called Penal Substitutionary Atonement.
🤷♂️ EVEN MORE BARBARIC IS TO CALL THE MOST GLORIFIED MOMENT IN HISTORY "EASTER" A TERM ONLY USED IN THE WHOLE BIBLE BY THE PAGAN HEROD. 🤔 LET THAT SINK IN.
Whosoever calleth on the name of the Lord shall be saved It says. John 3:16 For God so loved the world that He sent His only Begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish but have eternal life.
God sacrificed God to God in order to save God's creation from God.
I grew up as a Christian and off course I am older now still trying to understand why Jesus had to die for the sins of humanity and even after watching this video still doesn't make sense to me
How do we know there is a God
@@nourelechemin1825 yes no problem but I'm just a little busy these days with a lot of stuff in my life and plus that I don't think it's a good idea right here because this is a very long discussion
@@rayzumot7840 ok i hear you ... please keep it in mind , we shall take over when you are more available .. would be my pleasure
@@rayzumot7840it's quite simple, really, so as we know God is just right? And what's the rule of the wage of sin? The wage of sin is death. God COULD just denounce that and forgive us but that way he'd be breaking the rules. While God ISN'T limited by the rules, he's just, and a just God wouldn't do that now would he?
Because Its not designed to be made sense, Its designed to mislead us about the truth about Jesus. Its basically the old testament jews lying to us and putting Jesus in the context of their sacrifices to their Gods. The death of Jesus is a clear reflection of what happened in the Old Testament which by the way talks about demon worship. Jehovah is not the real God- real God doesn’t require sacrifice. Real God is love .
Wonderful explanation! Thankyou 😊 I've been asked this question in the past and felt that I struggled to give a satisfactory answer, this is so helpful 🤗
Tell me how is it just to kill an innocent man jesus for the sins of human being.
@@letsknow1491 I had the same question myself, but when I read the bible it made sense..... if Jesus is God (and He is) then He Lays down His Own life for the sins of mankind, and He does it because He is merciful and kind, and He loves us. Thank God! He doesn't want that mankind perishes because of their sins, He wanted to offer salvation and freedom from sin......
@@believewithyourheart5627 what about this verse.. Mathew 27:46
About three in the afternoon Jesus cried out in a loud voice, “Eli, Eli,[a] lema sabachthani?” (which means “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”)
You said Jesus died willingly then what about this verse???
Why is he crying to God ???
This verse clearly says Jesus has God which indicates Jesus is not God. God cannot have God my friend????
@@letsknow1491 Hebrews 1:3 He is the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint of his nature, and he upholds the universe by the word of his power. After making purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,
So there is God the Father, unmanifest creator of all things, and there is His only son who is God manifest in the flesh..... the exact imprint of His Fathers nature.....
John 10:18 no one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father."
To me it makes perfect sense 🤗✝️
Im glad u got it because i didnt He still didnt answer if God has all power why cant he just take sin away? No one seems to be able to answer that question out right
1. No one can die for the sins of another.
Exodus 32:30-35
Deuteronomy 24:16
Jeremiah 31:29-30
Ezekiel 18
Psalm 146:3
2. A Blood Sacrifice isn't needed to forgive sin.
Genesis 4:7
Exodus 22:3-14
Exodus 34:6-7
Leviticus 5:11-13
Numbers 5:6-7
Numbers 14:17-19
Numbers 16:47
Numbers 31:50
I Samuel 15:22
II Samuel 12:16
I Kings 8:38-39
I Kings 41:43
I Kings 8:46-50
II Kings 12:16
Isaiah 6:6-7
Isaiah 55:6-7
Jeremiah 7:22-23
Hosea 14:2
Jonah 3:5-10
Micah 6:6-8
Psalm 32:3-5
Psalm 34:14
Psalm 51:16-17
Proverbs 21:3
Proverbs 28:13
Job 33:26
II Chronicles 7:14
3. God will never accept a Human Sacrifice.
Deuteronomy 12:30-31
Jeremiah 19:4-6
Ezekiel 16:20
Psalm 106:37-38
Context and eisegesis won't cover it I'm afraid. The Hebrew bible is clear. God forgives sins if we repent. This of course would challenge your position in that Paul stated 'Christ has died for nothing', that would be to say, a 1st century tekton and illiterate Jew died at the hands of the Romans, eagerly believing himself to be the soon to reign Davidic king. 2000 years ontop of that means Christian apologists will have to work a little harder to explain their position. I do think they are asking good questions though and this video covers an unpopular topic. Good attempt and have a good day.
That's all The Old Testament you texted. Jesus Christ is The New Testament and corrected the Old Testament
Read Hebrews and Leviticus. The life of the flesh is in the blood. Blood covers atonement for one's soul. All of the verses you mentioned are about unclean human. The Bible clearly states that all humans except Jesus Christ are impure and unclean and are sinners. Therefore , if a human himself is unclean , then how can be used as an atonement for people's sins to make themselves clean? About the blood sacrifice one , none of the verses mention that. They all mention that God is forgiving and merciful. But we need to first repent and turn to God for mercy. Now we commit a lot of sins that are unknown and unnoticed in our eyes. So , it is impossible for us to make atonement and repent every time for all the sins we do. Therefore , God sent His Son Jesus Christ , who is sinless , to be offered as a final offering for our sin , so that no more future sacrifice is required. As Hebrews says , Christ entered the Holy Temple once and for all to offer the final sacrifice for our sins. And thats why Jesus said on the cross "It is finished". What is finished? The redemptive plan of God to offer the atonement for all of mankind's past , present and future sins is finished.
Spent the amount of time invested in belittling Christianity to learn about it.
@@Michele-td5lj the Old Testament was correct. If it was incorrect , it would not have been the Word of God , for Word of God is perfect. But to study the Old Testament , the New Testament needs to be there , as it explains the Old Testament and adds more meaning to it. Just as Jesus said , He did not come to abolish the Law but to fulfill it. Correcting it , basically means destroying it , as it contains mistakes and making it correct
That’s why Jesus the SON became flesh and died for our sins. It was GOD himself that partook in humanity as a perfect human and died for our sins. It’s not just human sacrifice since it was GOD
yeah.... "dying for our sins" really isnt that big of a deal when youre immortal and you can just respawn 3 days later....
I can’t deal with the music it’s too distracting
My answer is yes. He forgave in the Old Testament and forgave us before he died. He died because of his Sacrifiicial love for us. And he overcame death. He rose again! That is great news!
Beautiful .
Thank you .
This was an answer to prayer .
Thanks!
thank you thisis the gospel. all must be saved by Christ. No ohter nam ein which we must be saved. thank you Lord Jesus Christ.
I feel like you beat around the bush and didn't answer it directly and you just raised more questions.
I agree! He still didnt answer the question Its all a mystery No one has all the answers No one!
@@anggee3371disagree
I don't think the Church is supposed to waste it's time entertaining the notion that you can question God instead of removing zionists, lucifarians and other agents of Satan from this land.
Because he can’t answer the question because his religion doesn’t make any sense when directly questioned. If god can do anything, then he can forgive without Jesus. If he can’t, then he’s not all powerful and isn’t a god worth worship.
@@HelloCompanion
You don't yet have ears to hear .
Sad .
You're calling for an unjust God .
Like a dirty cop , sort of .
He sees someone he loves speeding and looks the other way . Strangers he tickets .
A good cop would give his loved one the ticket . It's fair , honest and lawful .
That's what God did. He's a just God . He gave us the ticket .
Then , because He loves us so much , He paid for it Himself.
It cost Him dearly .
I pray you come to understand .
Great explanation. Thank you ❤
Im glad u got it because i didnt He still didnt answer if God has all power why cant he just take sin away? No one seems to be able to answer that question out right
God is a Perfect Being and still loved us, but couldn`t have a relationship with imperfect beings, so his Solution was to Send Jesus Christ his son to Pay off the Sin Debt, so we can have Fellowship with God the father.@@anggee3371 Christ Paid our Debt.
@@anggee3371 God Almighty do have the power to forgive your sin without any human sacrifices....
God is the Most forgiving...Most Merciful....
But whosoever repents after his crime and does righteous good deeds (by obeying God), then verily, God will pardon him (accept his repentance). Verily, Godis Of the Forgiving, Most Merciful” [Quran 5:39)
@@anggee3371agree . And how is Jesus dying save us ?
Why does God ask us to forgive others but yet he condemns so many to hell? It also says “it pleased the father to bruise the son” what loving God would want to see his son beaten to death and hung on a cross? Since God can do anything, then why couldn’t he solve the problem of sin in the world?
Jesus is God made flesh. God was pleased to take the punishment for us. Also God is a GOOD God. Therefore he chooses to limit himself on a way so he can only do what is just, righteous, and moral. Jesus just forgiving people despite them being guilty would be unrighteous so in-order to keep his good holy character he would have to find a loophole. A way he can keep his good character and still be with us (since sin separates us from God because of his holy nature). Gods loophole was to send himself down in flesh (Jesus) to better relate to his peoples experiences like temptations, insecurities, etc, to teach us the correct way to walk with God, and lastly to die on the cross for our sins.
Also God didn’t create hell. The bible says he created the heavens and the earth. Darkness (which when you look at the original language that it was written in is more figurative meaning wickedness, evil, death, hardship, destruction, sin, stuff like that) covered the surface of the formless earth. This makes sense because God is a good God. In order to be truly good he would have had to give us free will. The only way for us to have free will is for both darkness and light to exist hence why he didn’t destroy it in the beginning instead he separated it from us. The garden of eden was were adam and eve exercised that free will and they (an example of humanity as a whole) chose darkness. Mankind being more inclined to sin God knew he would need to create a loophole which was sending himself down to die and fulfill the law thus covering everyones sins so we could all be forgiven. A human sacrifice wouldn’t work because humans inherently are sinful by nature of not being perfect (if we were perfect we would be God). It had to be a man who was fully God and fully human aka Jesus! God came down as flesh as said in John 1 of the bible and he related to our daily hardships (relationships with others, insecurities, temptations, etc), he taught us how we were meant to follow/live, and eventually died on the cross for our sins. Paying the price that only a loving God could pay. So he had to do it this way to maintain his consistent good godly character. God paid the cost of sin and he did simply forgive our sins he just did it while remaining a Good, Just, and Righteous God. I hope that makes sense let me know if it doesn’t and we can continue talking :)
@@lapris7380 Good explanation except God DID create hell. If God didn’t create hell, who do you think created it? No other being has the power to create anything.
@@weaverdreamsHell is more of a state you go in once you reject gods love. In orthodox theology we say hell is living bad gods love
But who was the debt paid to? Like was there an unspoken law between someone/something else that said if your creation fails they're mine and if they do then the only way for you to get them back is to die?
Clearly it was God who paid God? A lot doesn’t make logical sense. I mean a simple Lord please forgive me I have sinned before you. I forgive you would of worked. I mean he did do this a couple times in the Old Testament in 1-2 Kings and 1-2 Samuel. But for the most part a type of sacrifice had to be made in order for him to forgive us. It’s like you punching me in the face and me demanding your wife die in order for me to forgive you.
@@IHIuddyYour analogy doesn't work because it diminishes the seriousness of sin. Remember, Jesus SUFFERED AND DIED for it. That's how awful it is.
Sin is a crime against the infinite, most high, most holy God. Picture someone pissing all over the original Mona Lisa (not a copy of it) or some other extremely valuable object, and magnify that crime by a billion
@@boatcaptain6288 so the Most Holy God is offended by a humans sin? So God had to come down and pour Wrath out on himself to appease himself?
@@IHIuddy Yes, He can be offended by our sins. If you're implying that's impossible, I don't see why that would be.
Putting it as "God sent Himself to appease Himself" is technically true but ignores two things: 1. Jesus and the Father are two Persons of the Trinity; they are both God but they are also two Persons. It's hard to understand but that's a whole different discussion. 2. It ignores the act of love it is. God the Father sent His Son, Jesus the Son of God, to sacrifice Himself for us (He volunteered for it, mind you). Figuratively, He took a bullet meant for you. Sure, He came back to life, but He still suffered TREMENDOUSLY, poured out His Blood for you, and the point of the Resurrection was to prove that the promise of eternal life is no lie; we will be resurrected into new bodies like Him in the future.
Sin is a cancer, a poison that corrupts and taints our very souls, and the Blood of Jesus is the only thing that can wash it away. It cleanses us so that we may enter Heaven and be with our Heavenly Father.
The Father is all Good, all Holy, all Love, all Justice. But justice demands that evil, sin, be destroyed. But He loves us too much to destroy us, so instead He took the Judgement upon Himself/His Son so that we may be pronounced innocent on Judgement Day.
The Blood of Christ will wash our record clean, and the Father, acting as the Almighty Judge, will look upon us as being perfect and righteous for the sake of His Son despite all that we've done. No, that doesn't mean we can sin as we please; any true believer would not WANT to sin because they would genuinely love God and want to please Him rather than shame Him.
This Atonement shows us how much God loves us in how far He will go to suffer for us, how much He is willing to give (Remember, NOBODY ASKED HIM TO DO THIS for us, He could just as well have not have done it)
It also shows Christ's victory over sin and death: He bore all of our sins, took them to hell with Him and left them there when He came back; His Resurrection demonstrating His victory over Death itself, as well.
FYI when we speak of God's wrath, it's not like God the Father is stomping around heaven, looking for someone to smash. God's wrath is justice being applied destructively, and because He is Holy and Good and Just, His wrath is never misapplied.
Good question but I dont believe anyone has the answer Its all a mystery and maybe one day it will be revealed
If a person kill his son to save someone else son, is he kind to his son?
The Bible says in the beginning was the word and the word was God and the word was with God! When Adam n Eve partook of the forbidden fruit, they have the power of death to the devil and because of the original sin they could not reclaim it , so God , Jesus and the Holy Spirit sat down to resolve the issue and three things occurred :-
The angel gabriel pulled out a book (Gods word) as the solution to the problem (read the book of Hebrews) in which it clearly states that there was no forgiveness without the shedding of blood !!!! The shedding of blood word redeem the word and consequently grab the key to death back , so the three day and it is written that the earth is but a foot stool to Jehovah meaning he definitely could not come down and die for us coz he is toooo tooo mighty n the earth is too small for him , the holy spirit is a spirit (manager , comforter etc ) so he too did not qualify as the sacrificial lamb then Jesus being the son of God was the only suitable one for the sacrifice ! He was made flesh but though being a spirit born through a woman who by nature of being human had inherited the original sin and as such Jesus had to die as a human as the ultimate sacrifice for all our sins and finally defeated death . He said he is in the father and the father in him meaning they love us all unconditionally that they were willing to do that for us sinful beings just so we wouldn’t die (spiritual death) . He sacrificed himself for us to atone for our sins
God didn't kill his Son, Jesus volunteered and laid down his own life.
He didn't save just one son, he saved the world.
If a person doesn't receive Jesus as their savior, that person spends eternity in the lake of fire. God made a way for us to escape that
@Jeff-fu8is If he made a way why are there many going to hell even though who believes in Jesus
@@davidstrelec2000 if you said Jesus volunteered himsel...can you explain this..
And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, “Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?” that is to say, “My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken Me?” Matthew 27:46
Well what changed after the death of christ? As we can see humans are still sinful.
yes. But now we don't go to hell if we believe. And all suffering is guaranteed by God to turn out for our good in this life. To prepare us for Heaven.
@@rem7502 yea if dont GAMBLE and choose the right BELIF exelent i need to sin to entert heaven :/
If god did not die on the cross for our sins we all go to hell
I'm curious how and when belief became the mechanism of salvation. We didn't have to believe our way into our sin nature but the sacrifice that was made is insufficient or inactive in covering us until we believe that it was made. That's a bit difficult to understand and maybe the confusion comes from thinking about the sacrifice in terms of debt. If I write a check to pay off a mortgage, the debt goes from being owed to having been paid. Personal beliefs on the matter are irrelevant
Hey good vid.
i got a friend who is muslim that im trying to convert but he doesnt believe because of the judgement system is just so wrong in the bible like
Exodus 21:20-21 what can i say as a response maybe?
I hope you found your answer. Find the contextual passages that demonstrate if you beat your slave you have to set him free, and that you have to love your neighbor as yourself even in the OT, and also how the abuser wouldnt be put to death, but he would be required to nurse his slave back to health and pay him b4 releasing him. God bless ✝️
"for he is his property" is rendered in other translations as "for he is his money": what this means is the slave master already paid the price for beating his slave in how much work & money he lost out on via the slave being unable to work.
But I wouldn't bother debating about the Bible and slavery to non-christians anyway, people get WAY too emotional when it comes to this topic that they can't see reason, so it's not use.
@super-shocker3239
When people ask me about those particular laws I always say those are the law of man not the law of God. Moses was given Gods law. The 10 is the law of God they are the laws of peace. You read other laws for example in Book of Deuteronomy those are the laws of man. In scripture it says an eye for an eye. That law is judiciary. Like capital punishment today man’s law. There is Gods judgement and there is man’s judgement. That is how I would explain it.
What took the burnt offerings
We needed a mediator between man and God someone who knew the holiness and righteousness of God and one who knew what it was like to be a human and walk in our shoes to suffer how we suffer and to understand completely.
Why would we need a third party? God should already understand all of that. That's part of what being God means.
Im glad u got it because i didnt He still didnt answer if God has all power why cant he just take sin away? No one seems to be able to answer that question out right
Being just requires some level of detachment in order to not be bias and remain neutral which contradicts the idea of benevolence a benevolent being can just forgive. Being just and benevolent is a oxymoron
Jesus' sacrifice fixed everything...except for all the times it didn't.
What do you mean
@AA-er3mu they killed an innocent man named Jesus to take away our sin but killing an innocent man is a sin!!! There will be no peace on earth.
King James Bible
Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
cross references:
Colossians 1:20
and through Him to reconcile to Himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through the blood of His cross.
Romans 5:11
Not only that, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation.
Acts 10:36
He has sent this message to the people of Israel, proclaiming the gospel of peace through Jesus Christ, who is Lord of all.
Still makes absolutely no sense at all. So if Jesus hadn't died for our sin how would it be any different?. We still get eternal punishment for our sin right?.
God did just forgive in the Jewish scripture, the sacrifices where for unintentional sin and guilt offerings.
For intentional sin you had to repent ,and God would forgive.
Ezekiel chapter 18 tells us each is responsible for their own sin. And that God forgives when we do what is right .
Proverbs 17, 15
He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, both are abominable before God .
I think the greatest evidence of Human Sacrifice is the example of Jesus. The idea that blood somehow has the power of vanishing sins its an unsolved mystery. These are subjects that often people avoid to discuss because of the implications it can bring to the current religious beliefs and traditions. Why can't we forgive by simply stating it? or Pay a fine like when someone gets a speeding ticket because of a traffic violation? The idea of sacrificing an innocent Animal or a Human to appease a angry deity is mindbogglingly in itself.
Eternal hell is pretty much heavier as suffering then jezus his own suffering
Jesus foretold that the miraculous sign that would be shown through him would be the sign of Jonah.
Jonah was ALIVE in the belly of the fish for 3 days and 3 nights. A miracle of survival tot revival,
Most time a minimum of 36 hours and some time up to 9 or 10 days, yet Jesus "died" in 6 hours.
When he was put in the sepulchre, Nicodemus brought myrrh and aloes, plants that are considered medicinal and applied to wounds for healing the living, not for embalming the dead.
Greatest question.....
If God forgives..
Why had he not forgiven lucifer
Lucifer was not created in the image of God. We have a relationship with him like no other has ever had. He died on the cross and took OUR sins earning OUR forgiveness. He didn’t die for Lucifer’s or anyone else’s.
He did offer His mercy to Lucifer. Lucifer rejected Him. Now he will become as if he never was, spiritual death.
"Why can't God just forgive sin without Jesus' death?", Matt 9:1-6 states he did.
Clearly Yeshua had not yet been put to death yet he pronounced sins forgiven. In
practical terms this illustrates "Substitutional Atonement" theory is error.
Good question If god has all power why couldnt he just forgive sin without coming down in the flesh? I dont believe anyone has the answer Its all a mystery and maybe one day it will be revealed
@@anggee3371 An honest answer without an accompanying snow-job.
You should start your own channel. 👍
He tells us to forgive
If jesus christ didnt came into my life, than I would had have a good life
Jesus could have designed humans to be Peter Perfect & Picture Book classics ..but design faults were made which are now blamed on the end user, not the manufacturer...Amen
What happened after Jesus gave his life? The world is exactly the same and probably worse off. After the Christian church was formed, virtually every war involving Christians had a religious origin. For example, the 30 Years War (1618) waged Catholic Christians against Protestant Christians and was the bloodiest war in history until WWII. The Christians in that war fought to determine who interpreted the Bible correctly. 8 million people died, and >50% of all Germans. You could even say, "Because of Jesus, people sinned even more."
Why does he move his head like that😂😭😭😭
There is no original sin:
Prophet Adam asked forgiveness and was forgiveness by God:
7:23
They said, "Our Lord, we have wronged ourselves, and if You do not forgive us and have mercy upon us, we will surely be among the losers."
- Saheeh International
2 37
Then Adam received from his Lord [some] words, and He accepted his repentance. Indeed, it is He who is the Accepting of repentance, the Merciful.
Jesus prayed to God to be saved from crucifixion and God accepted his prayer:
Hebrews 5:7
During the days of Jesus’ life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with fervent cries and tears to the one who could save him from death,
and he was heard because of his reverent submission.
Note: Jesus prayer to be saved from crucifixion was accepted by God.
Jesus died because he entered politics. He spoke about overthrowing the Roman rulers. He had to go which was very common back then if you challenged authority, Dying for our sins nonsense was added in later by his followers to explain his death. Amen
Source: Your ass.
If Jesus died to pay your sin debt then he would still be dead. Thats the wages for your sins, eternal death. No one can pay your sin debt. You must repent for your own sins. This is the ONLY propiation for sins and always has been. The prodigal son, Zavheus, and king David are prime examples that the Father DOES just forgive us IF we return to him. Ezekiel 18. Read the bible folks.
Who did he pay?
Human sacrifice to appease a god isn't just strange it's disgusting
God sacrificed himself for us.
its SIN why SIN required to enter heaven?!??! and GAMBLING with your soul ANOTHER sin!, nowonder codex gigas has picture of heaven with a big fat ZERO of population!
@@lapris7380 but why? why not just take a chill pill and forgive?
@@NightmareRex6 Because to do so it would be contrary to his nature. It's not hard to imagine the disgust society has for child predators, rapists, serial killers and more. What is hard to imagine is that that level of disgust and hate is even more pronounced when God looks at even the smallest of sin.
Would you put your life in the line to protect your children? It shows God’s love is in all of us.
That still doesnt explain why God doest just take away sin. If he has all power why did he have to come down as Jesus in the flesh in order to forgive sin I still dont get it Its so complicated and no one can admit they dont have the answer
Because just "taking away sin" does not restore a broken relationship.
To restore or have a relationship, both parties have to genuinely want to have each other.
You can "just take away" the offence of a girlfriend who cheat on you; but unless she truly express remorse, the love is not there.
The face that God was willing to die for our sins demonstrated both the magnitude and damage in the human nature, and the price God was willing to pay .
@@Amoki86just wondering, then how did God forgive those in the Old Testament? Before his sacrifice
@@flamxzfr
1) Mosaic sacrificial laws.
2) James 2:23 “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness,” and he was called God’s friend". So even if there is any hypothetical edge cases in human history, God may opt to individually and exceptionally credit righteousness on the content of their belief and the closenest of that relationship to His sacrific on the Cross at different time.
You didn't answer anything
Jesus forgave 2 different peoples sins without either of them making an animal sacrifice and before his own death. Their sins were not forgiven because of animal sacrifice because neither made one, and their sins were not covered by Jesus blood cause he was still alive. So, he broke gods own command not once but twice, by forgiving them. He was human and had to follow the same rules as humans and by going against gods command by forgiving them without sacrifice, Jesus just sinned. Which means he was not perfect. And you could say well he was god just in human form, and yes he was but he just broke his own rule and proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that sin can absolutely be forgiven without any sacrifice. In matthew Mark and Luke, the story of the man with palsy and again in Luke when Jesus is on the cross.
If I can forgive my son for smashing my window and drinking underage without killing my daughter that makes me a better person than God. It baffles me that the all powerful, loving, righteous God is either incapable or unwilling of forgiving out of love or he is just a narcissistic sociopath
Dude can u comprehend or u just want to oppose, the fact that he is just is the reason why there had to be death. He said in his word,” a soul that sins shld die” meaning only death ( the shedding of blood) is the only way to atone for sin. Now if he chose not to require the shedding of blood to atone for sin , would he still be jus? God cant go against his word because he’s perfect he cant contradict himself , this whole earth is held together by the integrity of his word if by any chance he goes against his word the whole earth, universe will collapse. Is that clear enough ?
Hey what ur saying is totally understandable but it’s also incorrect. We aren’t perfectly just or moral. If God is perfect, all sin deserves punishment.A rapist, a thief, even a liar. That is holiness. But God has given us a gift of forgiveness so now we can forgive others.
@@djdee_vine if God can't contradict himself then that is something God cannot do thus he is fallible. Also when God told Abraham to take his son to the top of the mountain and then kill his son. Only to change his mind later how is that not a contradiction? When God told Adam and Eve "on the day you eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge you will die" yet after eating of the apple of knowledge both of them were cast from the garden and lived for hundreds of years?
@@sushmitasundar8729 so humans were incapable of forgiveness before the death of Jesus christ?
@@stevenrowlands4915That was a test thought? When telling Abraham to sacrifice his son.
I don't think you explained it well enough though but I'll answer any other questions
I think Aaron Abke has a better explanation, it seems to me.
"Any God who is not angry at sin would not be worthy of his title, or of our worship." Very, very good point.
no it isn't
One point I would say that God couldn't just forgive humanity without a price being paid is it is akin to a judge just letting a criminal such as a murderer off the sentence, and saying I forgive your crime, we know that isn't right and that when a crime is committed there is a price to pay for that crime. God in His loving kindness sent His Son as there is no way for us to recompense God, we would be eternally separated otherwise. The purpose is that, yes, Christ Jesus became sin for us on the cross and our sins are nailed on the cross with Him, we need only accept what He did for us personally.
uhh you would NOT WHATSOEVER call a judge who punishes SOMEONE ELSE for a crime rightous you would call them CORRUPT! terrable analogy
Jesus was a Sacrifice to Pay off a Debt, your Debt, my Debt, and he said it is finished because his Mission was complete.
The question is Who is he paying the debt to? If he is God and has all power why cant he do it without the story of Jesus? Its very confusing No one has a direct answer Its all a mystery
God has a Perfect character and can Not Look upon Sin, So Jesus became Flesh and Blood Like us to sacrifice to create a Way to remove our Sin by faith in Jesus. Now God can Look upon us and Have a Relationship thru what his son did on the cross. Grace thru Faith.. Jesus took our Place, so a Perfect God can Love us, Bless us, and Have a Relationship with him.@@anggee3371
@@anggee3371 He removed the Debt we owed, and removed it as Paid in full. He helped removed the imperfect Debt so we can be with a Perfect God
for sins of humanity or only those who worship him? Allah is merciful ,He does not need human blood. Jesu was a prophet,he is alive. He will come back. Islam says so.
There was no cross and he did not die on it !
There was a cross and He did die on it.
Maybe god can't forgive so he must of went to earth became Jesus so he can decide to forgive which doesn't make sense so when priest's touch kids there forgiven not sure about that
God killed himself he became human dang people
Why would a god with billions of planets and stars to worry about be so hung up on the peccadilloes of insignificant human beings which Jesus and his dad allegedly designed. I think the yarns are made up to form another version of religion. Amen
Jesus is God in the flesh, so God sacrifice himself to save his creation instead of destroying us because we became into a falling state of Sin
And God promised not to send Another Flood to kill All Humanity! So he came into the Virgin Mary. People forget About Jesus's Mother! She was A Virgin and was chosen By Almighty God to deliver Jesus out of Her womb!
God cannot save you, since, in rebelliousness and stubbornness, humankind will continue to make the same earthbound mistakes till the end of time, thus creating their own sicknesses and miseries.
Those who have insight and understanding will recognize that Christ has RETURNED... and explaining WHY he taught the principles of life which people now need so urgently to save themselves and the planet from wholesale disaster.
There will be those who will receive the TRUTH with joy, since in their being they have known that beyond the religions of the world has been TRUTH - the REALITY of existence. These are the people who will prosper and will eventually save the world from self-annihilation.
You cannot ignore the problems inherent in your individualized existence and believe that God will save you from them.
Your only hope of final escape, of stepping off the treadmill of human experience, is to recognize and acknowledge them and then work minute-by-minute to transcend them and eventually merge, in purity of mind, heart and action, and become one with God who does the LOVE WORK.
That was a complicated tangle of thoughts and words.
When something takes this long to explain it's not understood, or it's false, or both.
Bible stories always take a long time time to explain.
Try understanding quantum theory then. If your idea of "reality must be simple" holds up - then quantum theory shouldn't even exist. Yet it does and it describes our universe as it is.
@@MrSeedi76 The Copernican model of the solar system was more complicated than the elliptical orbit model of the solar system. As models get better, they get more simple to understand and more simple to explain.
We are supposed to follow Jesus though. The end of Christianity is becoming an abuse victim? Yeah and we're supposed to become an abuse victim of our own free will. That's what God wants. For us to allow ourselves to be abused. Wow! He could treat you like crap your whole life, but you better praise him about how good he is, or he'll torture you for eternity.
You REALLY don't get it 🙄 Everything is "abuse" to you, huh. Just like how some people see "Nazis" everywhere
You have to read Torah - Bible - Quran with neutral perception…and ask your heart which one is make sense and reveal the truth. The idea inside Jesus die for human sins will ENCOURAGE people to do bad things or killing without reason as the sins are already put on Jesus life which is he said he is Messenger of God and he said he pray to God with head to ground in early morning
Jesus never died on crucifixion as proverb 21:18 and He didn't atoned our sin, He is the god but he didnt die on cross. I am Christianity not Paulnity. I beleive and faith Jesus without he atoned my sin. Since he is the Name Of God itself.
😂 Good luck with that. Paul taught the same things Jesus did. This old lie that Paul "corrupted" the teaching of Jesus and the other apostles has been debunked decades ago. And, yes, Jesus died on the cross.
@@MrSeedi76 Jesus died? This is funny. You dont read bible well. Paul affected you😌
Compare one page of bible with one page of Quran, and decide for yourself which one is the word of God. You owe it to yourself to find out the truth.
Walk into the British Library and you will find yourself surrounded by millions of books, why pick the Quran to compare to the Bible and why even choose the Bible?
I just did.
Haven't changed my mind about the Bible being the truth.
neither is my bet
whos gonna tell him it is all made up? @@boatcaptain6288
God did not sacrifice Himself to Himself to safe us from Himself.
I no longer believe Jesus died for our sins. God has always forgiven us. Sacrifice is a primitive man thing, not a God thing. How come we’re too good for sacrifice now? We find it abhorrent? How can we be more righteous than God? The only ones who practice sacrifice today are the Satanists and Luciferians. That says something right there. Jesus never said he had come to die for the sins of the world. They turned that into the gospel - a gospel ABOUT Jesus not the gospel OF Jesus. There is a spiritual awakening right now and the truth of God’s true gospel will be made known. That we are the sons of God and through faith in Him and loving service of our fellow man gains us eternal life. God wouldn’t expect us to forgive 70x and 7 and then He needs to see His perfect Son be horrifically murdered to forgive us. God is no hypocrite.
For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
Matthew:26:28
Honestly - I don't get this "new age Christianity" stuff. If you don't believe what's written down in the gospels, why should I believe you? You obviously know nothing at all about Jesus without the written gospels. And if you don't believe what Jesus followers wrote about Him, you certainly don't expect us to believe your version of Jesus.
The Father DOES just forgive us if we repent. No death of Jesus ever happened. If he died to pay our sin debt, then he would still be dead. Thats the wages of sin, eternal death.
No prophecy ever said anyone would die to atone for sins. Repentance has always been the only propiation for sins.
You cant intellectually describe god. We want to ..but its an impossible tasks. Either you get ot or you dont
From the standpoint of God, redemption is not necessary - because everyone is already UNCONDITIONALLY FORGIVEN.
The teachings on FORGIVENESS is about FORGIVING ourselves and others, so that we can move on and NOT remain stuck in the pain of the past.
God the Father can’t forgive sin - He can only punish sinners with the death penalty because of His profound and transcendent Holiness. So, the Lord Jesus Christ was punished *in our place*. It’s called Penal Substitutionary Atonement.
than you Lord
Sounds like a scam to me. This guy makes no sense . It only works if you beleive the ridiculous story. Total mind control.
Oh no! I'm being mind controlled into being a better person!!! The horror!!!
Lol
Ask Jesus into your life. Better safe than sorry.
It is written whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved. And read John 3:16.
🤷♂️ EVEN MORE BARBARIC IS TO CALL THE MOST GLORIFIED MOMENT IN HISTORY "EASTER" A TERM ONLY USED IN THE WHOLE BIBLE BY THE PAGAN HEROD. 🤔 LET THAT SINK IN.
You don't seem to know all that much about the Bible or the words used in it. Maybe read a book about it and let it sink in.
@@MrSeedi76 NOTHING YOU SAID IS VALID OR PROVES ANY KIND OF POINT. 🤦♂️ YOU GOT SOMETHING TO SAY AT LEAST MAKE IT PROVE A POINT.
Total nonsense
This video or everything? Ask Jesus into your life. Better safe than sorry.
Whosoever calleth on the name of the Lord shall be saved It says.
John 3:16
For God so loved the world that He sent His only Begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish but have eternal life.
The Bible says what whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved. John 3:16
Iam more confused 😅
Christianity is pure insanity, a fun mythical story but absolute idiocy to think the magic is real 🤣🤣🤣
Atheism is pure delusion.