No one deserves to review the 2nd generation BRZ more than Matt Maran, the 1st generation owner! Great review overall, I liked the points you mentioned near the end about how this car compares to its FWD turbocharged competitors. Those competitors are based on a commuter car, whereas this BRZ starts on a dedicated purpose built platform. A lot of these 'mORe pOWer' whiners don't realise that adding power is easy in the aftermarket but, only an OEM manufacturer can do the lower centre of gravity, weight reduction and torsional rigidity improvements at a reasonable price. Pressed the 'like' button as you deserve more views, especially with enthusiast cars!
Lower power means cheaper maintenance. Not sure how is in USA, but for us in Europe it is important cheaper registration, insurance, less emissions, fuel economy. Especially if it is your daily driver car. Hence for Mustangs (which are not really common cars here) ecoboosts are more popular here despite not much cost difference between ecoboosts and big ones like GT, as GT has exorbitant maintenance costs.
@Bryce Czirr sure, but this one is more fun to drive, then it depends of your life, for example I would be able to live off BRZ so far, in my current car only 2 times I carried more than two extra people (which can be still done in BRZ as emergency) and my groceries were never that big I required a trunk lol.
@Bryce Czirr So what if the GTI is quicker? It'll still be boring to drive and feel heavy around corners. Won't teach anything about car control with its poor weight distribution, cross balance and its centre of gravity. A BRZ with the same power as the GTI will whoop that car around the track. Don't try to claim that you're a 'Driving God' and have the entitlement to have more power, when you clearly don't. The Nissan Z will cost a lot more to own with tax, weight, fuel and wider grippier tyres, its not all better.
Matt Maran in 2012 - early adopter of the 1st gen BRZ. Matt Maran in 2021 - finally recognised by Subaru to be invited to drive the 2nd gen BRZ! I liked your commentary you made about the steering feel differences at 19:29 - from the Japanese journalist videos I saw, the japanese engineers told them that it was one of the reasons why the GR86 used the heavier steel front knuckles compared to the BRZ's more lightweight aluminium front knuckles. Those japanese journalists were lucky to drive the GR86 and BRZ back-to-back on the same day, it would've been great if you guys in US had the same treatment but oh well, glad you got to experience both cars somehow!
@@GA-wq8xq You think I don't know that already?I never said he was the only one invited. I'm saying that his channel took off when he did those BRZ update videos back in 2013 🙄
If you don’t like his review, you could post your own, or at least give legitimate criticism of it instead of just throwing shade. Oh wait, you’re definitely one of the most qualified person to leave snark, so carry on
@@michaelpaver3788 jesus chill out, instead of getting triggered and typing something without critically thinking, if you knew who Matt was before you'd totally understand the original comment.
I think it’s even more odd how “sport” is often the base model with a lot of brands. Or how for example dodge uses “GT” as basically a visual package for their v6 charger and challenger while for example a mustang “GT” is a v8.
Pressed the like button and commenting here to help with the algorithm! When it comes to these low production/profit cars like the BRZ/MX-5, I think its important and great that video creators like yourself highlight why this car exists (when people will complain that their minivan is quicker). You mention in your weekly news updates that manufacturers will stop offering manual cars or stop developing these types of niche sportscars, if all people do is buying them used with 40% depreciation. I hope your video gets shared so that it encourages more people to buy these low profit cars, brand new.
As an enthusiast I’m finally at a point in life I put a BRZ on order to give back. Due to finances buying used was about my only choice. Just happy this car was upgraded in the right spots and right moment for me.
Really excited for this to hit the dealers. I'm more of a fan of the GR86 styling, as it feels more aggressive, but great review. Also, it was a pleasure seeing you and ringing you up at PetSmart a few weeks ago.
I love the fact that you explained why a car on a dedicated platform is better then a souped up economy car, I've only heard you and savagegeese talk about that, but you actually explained it fully which is even better!
Still trips me out every single video I watch and you don’t say subaruwrxfan lol. Been watching since 2013, happy to see your growth 👏🏽 Edit: the brz looks much more aggressive too! Was thinking a of a Supra when I’m done with my Tacoma in May but the way the price of everything is going up, maybe a brz or 86 will do. Slowly liking the way it looks.
I agree! I initially thought that the Toyota was prettier. After this video, the BRZ looks very handsome and classy. Strange how the other shots of it looked so awkward. It really is close to the 2017 one i had. And yes the price is stupidly cheap.
Great review as usual. Honest and realistic. I'm glad you mentioned people subscribing. Hope you continue to tell people if they like it they should subscribe. I think it does actually help
Thanks Joshua! Subscribing still does help, but these days the RUclips algorithm mostly cares about how long people watch the video for and how often they click that channel's videos when they pop up in the recommendations. Watching till the end and clicking on the recommendations are the best ways to help currently!
That section of road was pretty rough though, when I was in the automatic later you can hear that it's quieter. It just doesn't have a ton of sound deadening to keep it light.
Hi Matt! I love your review on the new BRZ! While it is a bummer that it does not have a twisting key anymore, I am super happy with the improvements that they made! I also loved how you threw it back to the subaruwrxfan days, to when a lot of us started. Please keep up the good work, and I am really happy for your success! God Bless always and please stay safe! :)
I came to your channel back in the day as someone who was also purchasing an early delivery BRZ. I plan on buying one of these and keeping it for a few decades. Might be the last of its kind.
Your first review of your 2012 BRZ was the first review I had seen of any BRZ five years later in 2017 I was finally able to get a used 2015 and loved it. Just last year I stepped it up and got a 2018 BRZ tS. Being that I personally think I like the styling of the 1st gen refresh, and more importantly I have a Special trim I don't plan on getting a 2nd gen anytime soon but I'm still glad to see you reviewing one!
With how detailed the BRZ looks, It looks like car that would be so fun to both detail and seal/ protect the paint work and trim. Really happy they recognized that you need to review this car. 👍
Hi Matt I just purchased the Subaru BRZ 2022. I traded in my Mazda MX5 (Miata) so I found your review excellent & look forward to driving my BRZ. It does feel more spacious which I found more comfortable to the MX5. I will receive on February 14th so here goes for a new fun experience. Thanks for your review. Robbie Anderson
I followed u when your channel was named subaruwrxfans. I still remember that I watched your review for evo x many times over and finally decided to buy one in 2017. I have been driving the evo x since then, but now I'm into the gr86 or this brz here. I'm gald that I found your video again, thanks
Thank you for bending down low so i could get a good view of the ground clearance. My only concern was scratching my driveway but it looks to have more clearance than i thought. Been watching your stuff since 2013 when you drove a wrx. I even learned the basics of driving a manual from one of your vids.
Ive been watching your videos since the 2013 FRS review, my fist car was supposed to be a 2013 FRS but i couldn't get it and had to settle for a 2010 TSX but now, finallyyyyyyyyyy, i am able to get one, i just submitted my order for a new 2022 BRZ Limited and I cannot wait to place my glutes on those seats. Finally getting my dream car, can't wait to take it on the twisty hill roads the that surround the Los Angeles 😩
I owned the previous gen BRZ and this gen looks much better! Well, the side and rear anyways. I think with a splitter and one inch drop it will definitely do numbers at any car meet. I miss taking corners in mine. When getting in the spirit with others they would always hit the brakes and I would accelerate through like no other! Even handled much better than my E36!
Matt, I try not to judge cars solely if I like them or not just by pictures because the pictures doesn’t give you that three dimensional real world view and look at the vehicle!
Really hate to say it, but I think I prefer the more understated front-end of the Toyota 86 twin of the BRZ. And, ironically the more up-swept spoiler on the 86 too. Still.... I'd feel weird taking a Subaru with Toyota badges to a Toyota dealership garage if the car years down the road needed some work done on it.
I had a 2014 BRZ. I’ve had a Miata RF since 2017. I’ve just ordered a ‘22 BRZ…manual, Limited Spec, with the optional STI short shifter, in Ice Silver Metallic.
@@MattMaranMotoring Got to love small, lightish, RWD, manual, sports cars. Sadly, I think the 86/BRZ/Nissan-Z and the Miata could be the last of the breed. We MAY get another generation of Miata if we are lucky, but then it’s probably the end of the line. This is sad…so I have to have to buy one of them.
@@thomasengel1459 There is no comparison. I have an RF, and had a 2014 BRZ and from a packaging perspective, the new one seems similar. The Miata is tiny with no luggage space (one carry on sized bag an that’s it). In my BRZ I’ve had a full set of track wheels and tyres, a trolley jack, and two drive on ramps. There is no comparison on load space. I’m 5’11” and the RF drivers seat fits like a glove, but if you are over 6’1” in the RF, you’ll be cramped. Even I find the passenger tight because the subwoofer placement eats the legroom. In the BRZ? My 6’4” friend had no trouble getting comfortable either side. No…it ain’t Miata sized at all.
It is. They share most of the colors like the last gen, I believe the only unique shades are World Rally Blue for the BRZ and Neptune Blue for the GR 86.
Put in my order at my local dealer for the BRZ Limited in red. Went from a used RX8 that I sold for a new '20 Camaro SS. Regretted it, driving that RX8 was a fuckin blast, driving the SS was cool but GM makes everything so boring. If the BRZ is everything all these reviewers are saying it is, than it's that same low cost lightweight sports car formula that I fell in love with when I drove my RX8, and I can't wait to drive it home.
Congrats on the order! I think you'll love it, redline is obviously lower than an RX-8 but I think it'll be the best of all the worlds for you. Still light, lots more torque in the lower rpms than the RX-8 but still loves to rev and rip in the upper RPMs, plus the better reliability, better fuel economy, and newer tech.
I can tell you were really enjoying the acceleration test beecuse the vein in your neck was popping out!!! I have watched your review a few times. I cant wait to get one later this year. I can not decide between the ice silver color or the sapphire blue color. Which do you prefer Matt?
Sadly ill have to pick one of these up in another 2 years. But it’ll definitely be worth the wait as they will iron out any defects or recalls that happen over the first year production
It seems to remind me a lot of my 2013 FRS still, but I am really excited about the new generation. I want to see how it compares to everything I've done with my FRS. I get roughly the low to mid 20s in fuel economy now, but I also think I get about the same ballpark in torque, so I may be close to the new one power-wise.
I think it boils down to whether you want the GR86's superior styling? (They didn't integrate the license plate into the bumper mold.) Or if you want Subaru backing up your warranty claims? (Toyota dealerships aren't going to be anywhere nearly as competent working on that Boxer motor, which got proven out with the valve spring recall.)
Thanks! Didn’t drive it cold so can’t comment on the transmission but they did switch trans fluid for better shifts at colder temps. Crickets are gone.
owned a frs 2013 now a brz ts with HKS super charger ....the new ones im not digging ill get nismo 400z next .. that head unit bezels are huge and bulky
Great Review & we have very similar taste in how we enjoy cars. You helped me take a leap in my 1st hot hatch an Abarth. Now I’m ready for rwd for final gas car. How’d you compare BRZ vs Miata RF? Especially ride quality for commuting and hilly curvy ‘B’ roads. Some auto cross but daily use is my concern.
I’m planning to get a brz idk if I’ll really feel like it’s slow cuz I’m in dubai and all the roads are mostly straight yes there are curves for over head exits and roundabouts and all but I’m coming for a jag xf with a 3.0 super charged v6 and the super charger really makes it feel really fast and also I have an auto license cuz in Dubai getting a manual license maybe takes 2 years to get but yes idk what to get a veloster n dct or brz auto
Well, the GR got the start up animation in the center guage, free 2 year maintenance and the cheaper plastic door openner panels. Things I wish they both have are a "sun and sound package."
The 86 Premium gets a 8-speaker JBL system and it's been said there is gonna be a optional trunk Sub as well. I haven't seen anything at all about the BRZ's audio system.
@@DragonKnightX12 I'm not sure where you read that the 8 speaker system is a JBL unit, but it isn't branded as such if it is. At the official presentation they didn't tell us about any branding for the 8 speaker system. Option sub in the trunk is true, they told us about that. No branding for it either. The BRZ systems will be the same and will likely offer the same sub.
@@MattMaranMotoring I swear I read that somewhere. It does sound pretty decent on TheTopher's 86 review. Just thought it was kind of odd Subaru dosen't mention anything about, even when their already taking orders.
I’m a little confused on the paddles when I’m automatic, when normally driving would you just leave them a line or do you still need to use the paddles even though it’s automatic
2 quick questions: are the Premium trim Primacy tires the HP or the MXM4 versions and does the Premium come with rubber or aluminum pedals on the MT car? The first question addresses colder climates, the second would be a difference with the base GR86. Thank you.
I believe they’re the HP version, I show them in my GR 86 review. Pedals I believe are only aluminum on the Premium Toyota and Limited Subaru, but I only looked at the auto for the base model.
Toyota and Subaru should build a sport sedan using the same engine and transmissions. I'm pretty sure people would be interest in a sedan with the same rear wheel drive, good engine and transmissions but with extra room of a sedan and higher ground clearance. Of course the sedan is not as hard core, but it's a good compromise.
According to Jason Cammisa (from Hagerty), the new GR86 (base) can hit note to 60 in only 5.9 seconds (standstill). So that means the premium might be able to do 5.7ish cuz of the better tires. Not that it matters in a car like this but still.
@@richardblake5533 Yeah and this is with the less grippy tires. In the right conditions, with the right driver, the premium models can probably do it in 5.7ish seconds.
You said that in the previous generation 86 the auto shifted really quickly but in this one it's slow? It's the same gearbox maybe even a bit faster yet it's slower to shift?
What shoes are you wearing? They look like specialized driver's shoes. I have been looking and looking and those are THE coolest shoes I have ever seen; made for heel & toe driving? Where can they be bought? I have not seen anything like them before! Thank you in advance..
No one deserves to review the 2nd generation BRZ more than Matt Maran, the 1st generation owner! Great review overall, I liked the points you mentioned near the end about how this car compares to its FWD turbocharged competitors. Those competitors are based on a commuter car, whereas this BRZ starts on a dedicated purpose built platform. A lot of these 'mORe pOWer' whiners don't realise that adding power is easy in the aftermarket but, only an OEM manufacturer can do the lower centre of gravity, weight reduction and torsional rigidity improvements at a reasonable price. Pressed the 'like' button as you deserve more views, especially with enthusiast cars!
Thanks James! 🙏
SUBARUWRXFAN
Lower power means cheaper maintenance. Not sure how is in USA, but for us in Europe it is important cheaper registration, insurance, less emissions, fuel economy. Especially if it is your daily driver car. Hence for Mustangs (which are not really common cars here) ecoboosts are more popular here despite not much cost difference between ecoboosts and big ones like GT, as GT has exorbitant maintenance costs.
@Bryce Czirr sure, but this one is more fun to drive, then it depends of your life, for example I would be able to live off BRZ so far, in my current car only 2 times I carried more than two extra people (which can be still done in BRZ as emergency) and my groceries were never that big I required a trunk lol.
@Bryce Czirr So what if the GTI is quicker? It'll still be boring to drive and feel heavy around corners. Won't teach anything about car control with its poor weight distribution, cross balance and its centre of gravity. A BRZ with the same power as the GTI will whoop that car around the track. Don't try to claim that you're a 'Driving God' and have the entitlement to have more power, when you clearly don't. The Nissan Z will cost a lot more to own with tax, weight, fuel and wider grippier tyres, its not all better.
Matt Maran in 2012 - early adopter of the 1st gen BRZ. Matt Maran in 2021 - finally recognised by Subaru to be invited to drive the 2nd gen BRZ! I liked your commentary you made about the steering feel differences at 19:29 - from the Japanese journalist videos I saw, the japanese engineers told them that it was one of the reasons why the GR86 used the heavier steel front knuckles compared to the BRZ's more lightweight aluminium front knuckles. Those japanese journalists were lucky to drive the GR86 and BRZ back-to-back on the same day, it would've been great if you guys in US had the same treatment but oh well, glad you got to experience both cars somehow!
Matt was invited by Subaru as were many other journalists
@@GA-wq8xq You think I don't know that already?I never said he was the only one invited. I'm saying that his channel took off when he did those BRZ update videos back in 2013 🙄
I would like to see Matt Maran do a review on the 2022 wrx I don’t know what to think of it.
Any link to those review?
@@ruturaj47 Go to his channel page and search from there. I'm not going to do all the work for you.
You’re definitely one of the most qualified person to review this car 😂
Then he leaves a heart ❤️🤣🤣🤣
If you don’t like his review, you could post your own, or at least give legitimate criticism of it instead of just throwing shade. Oh wait, you’re definitely one of the most qualified person to leave snark, so carry on
@@michaelpaver3788 jesus chill out, instead of getting triggered and typing something without critically thinking, if you knew who Matt was before you'd totally understand the original comment.
Yes cause he is "subaruwrxfan" 🤣
Crazy how the first brz was the reason I subbed to your channel. Now its come full circle lol
Okay I'll never understand why car companies will call the base model "premium" and the top model "limited" It drives me nuts.
From a marketing standpoint it sounds more upscale. "I have the base model." "I have the premium model."
Thats just subaru lol
I think it’s even more odd how “sport” is often the base model with a lot of brands. Or how for example dodge uses “GT” as basically a visual package for their v6 charger and challenger while for example a mustang “GT” is a v8.
Used to be the base was called "custom" I prefer Nissan method. Base enthusiast track and gt
@@jeffthedream on the f150 the limited is nicer than the platinum lol Ford makes it confusing also
At 15:35 Matt goes back to his roots!! Congratulations on your success and family.
Thank you!
I'm seriously considering getting one of these twins. Thanks for the back to back (as much as you can) reviews!
used to watch this guy years ago before changing his name his videos just never gets old keep it going!
Pressed the like button and commenting here to help with the algorithm! When it comes to these low production/profit cars like the BRZ/MX-5, I think its important and great that video creators like yourself highlight why this car exists (when people will complain that their minivan is quicker). You mention in your weekly news updates that manufacturers will stop offering manual cars or stop developing these types of niche sportscars, if all people do is buying them used with 40% depreciation. I hope your video gets shared so that it encourages more people to buy these low profit cars, brand new.
Thanks Joe! Yeah these cars likely won’t be around much longer.
As an enthusiast I’m finally at a point in life I put a BRZ on order to give back. Due to finances buying used was about my only choice. Just happy this car was upgraded in the right spots and right moment for me.
Really excited for this to hit the dealers. I'm more of a fan of the GR86 styling, as it feels more aggressive, but great review.
Also, it was a pleasure seeing you and ringing you up at PetSmart a few weeks ago.
Thanks, it was great to meet you too!
I love the fact that you explained why a car on a dedicated platform is better then a souped up economy car, I've only heard you and savagegeese talk about that, but you actually explained it fully which is even better!
Thanks Dallas!
Great review. I look for attention to detail in car design, and it's great to see the BRZ through Matt's experience with the old car.
Still trips me out every single video I watch and you don’t say subaruwrxfan lol. Been watching since 2013, happy to see your growth 👏🏽
Edit: the brz looks much more aggressive too! Was thinking a of a Supra when I’m done with my Tacoma in May but the way the price of everything is going up, maybe a brz or 86 will do. Slowly liking the way it looks.
I agree! I initially thought that the Toyota was prettier. After this video, the BRZ looks very handsome and classy. Strange how the other shots of it looked so awkward. It really is close to the 2017 one i had. And yes the price is stupidly cheap.
Great review as usual. Honest and realistic. I'm glad you mentioned people subscribing. Hope you continue to tell people if they like it they should subscribe. I think it does actually help
Thanks Joshua! Subscribing still does help, but these days the RUclips algorithm mostly cares about how long people watch the video for and how often they click that channel's videos when they pop up in the recommendations. Watching till the end and clicking on the recommendations are the best ways to help currently!
Awesome review Matt! You're the perfect person to review this car since you were a owner of the 1st gen BRZ!
Thanks man! It was fun to be back in a BRZ!
Temp gauge read 86°? Coincidence,me thinks not!
Great review Matt
Really appreciate the on road driving portion where you can clearly hear how loud the road noise is. It's real loud.
That section of road was pretty rough though, when I was in the automatic later you can hear that it's quieter. It just doesn't have a ton of sound deadening to keep it light.
@@MattMaranMotoring thanks for the response. I watched the automatic portion and went back to the gr86 video and yeah... Not too terribly loud.
Perfect review! The updates definitely make the BRZ more desirable🤘😎
You should've said Subaru WRX fan just for old times sake 😂
Yessssssssss
Hands down the most practical review and your comparison to the GTI and Veloster are exactly what I was cross shopping.
Thanks David, I'm glad it was helpful to you!
@@MattMaranMotoring I just put my deposit down and ordered today! Your familiarity with the platform and insights were a factor in my decision.
@@aroundomaha Congrats on your order! I'm so glad the video was helpful to you!
Hi Matt! I love your review on the new BRZ! While it is a bummer that it does not have a twisting key anymore, I am super happy with the improvements that they made! I also loved how you threw it back to the subaruwrxfan days, to when a lot of us started. Please keep up the good work, and I am really happy for your success! God Bless always and please stay safe! :)
Thanks man!
I like how the cruise control is where the old BMWs had it. Did you say "course sloth" at 4:23? Ha!
I came to your channel back in the day as someone who was also purchasing an early delivery BRZ. I plan on buying one of these and keeping it for a few decades. Might be the last of its kind.
That's awesome Nick! I hope you enjoy it even more than your first BRZ!
“Active sound enhancement”? (14:50)
Is that a kind way of saying fake engine noise played though speakers? Can that be turned off?
Your first review of your 2012 BRZ was the first review I had seen of any BRZ five years later in 2017 I was finally able to get a used 2015 and loved it. Just last year I stepped it up and got a 2018 BRZ tS. Being that I personally think I like the styling of the 1st gen refresh, and more importantly I have a Special trim I don't plan on getting a 2nd gen anytime soon but I'm still glad to see you reviewing one!
Certainly the only moderator in the world who manages to shorten an hour-long car review to less than half the time using the speed of speech.
With how detailed the BRZ looks, It looks like car that would be so fun to both detail and seal/ protect the paint work and trim.
Really happy they recognized that you need to review this car. 👍
I've always kind of liked these cars. Very good review Matt.
Great review Matt. So glad Subaru has kept and updated what I consider one of the most pure vehicles made now.
Sorry Rich, Miata is always the answer.
just ordered mine! Limited, 6-Speed manual in World Rally Blue
Ignition red here! I'm getting impatient! Mine is coming in January....
Hi Matt I just purchased the Subaru BRZ 2022. I traded in my Mazda MX5 (Miata) so I found your review excellent & look forward to driving my BRZ. It does feel more spacious which I found more comfortable to the MX5. I will receive on February 14th so here goes for a new fun experience. Thanks for your review. Robbie Anderson
Still happy with the BRZ instead of the Miata?
I followed u when your channel was named subaruwrxfans.
I still remember that I watched your review for evo x many times over and finally decided to buy one in 2017.
I have been driving the evo x since then, but now I'm into the gr86 or this brz here.
I'm gald that I found your video again, thanks
Thank you for bending down low so i could get a good view of the ground clearance. My only concern was scratching my driveway but it looks to have more clearance than i thought. Been watching your stuff since 2013 when you drove a wrx. I even learned the basics of driving a manual from one of your vids.
Thanks for watching all these years Geoffrey, I really appreciate it!
Love to see your back in a brz matt!
I am very excited to drive the new BRZ and GR86 back to back. I love these cars.
Great video Matt! Been with you since the subaruwrxfan days. Keep up the good work buddy!
My friend already ordered his BR86. Excited to see how it is in the real world compared to the old one. - Great Review! Cool Video!
That's awesome, thanks Marc!
Great review! I'm torn between the GR86 and the BRZ. I guess it's hard to go wrong with either. Hope your channel takes off!
Matt back in a BRZ again! Nice!!!!
Adding this to my list for 3 season sports car. Good review
Started watching your channel from the OG BRZ if anyone was to review the new BRZ it definitely was you.
Good video Matt! Looks like you were having fun pushing this car in the track…very jelly!
Ive been watching your videos since the 2013 FRS review, my fist car was supposed to be a 2013 FRS but i couldn't get it and had to settle for a 2010 TSX but now, finallyyyyyyyyyy, i am able to get one, i just submitted my order for a new 2022 BRZ Limited and I cannot wait to place my glutes on those seats. Finally getting my dream car, can't wait to take it on the twisty hill roads the that surround the Los Angeles 😩
Toyota: EVERYONE MUST DRIVE THE 86
Subaru: Only Matt Moran is worthy of driving the BRZ
New BRZ looks more mature and refined inside and out... And that extra power that has been CRIED OUT FOR, is welcome I'm sure!
Great review, we rarely see these in the shop so it was a nice overview.
The 2nd gen isn’t even out yet…
Overall great review and nice attention to details!
The in-cabin audio was pretty noisy, you might consider using a better mic.
BRZ Gen 2: "Irish! Look at me, look at me! I'm the Catfish now!"
I owned the previous gen BRZ and this gen looks much better! Well, the side and rear anyways. I think with a splitter and one inch drop it will definitely do numbers at any car meet. I miss taking corners in mine. When getting in the spirit with others they would always hit the brakes and I would accelerate through like no other! Even handled much better than my E36!
great review as always !! I just ish they would put some decent brakes on it.
Woahhhhh HD
What a great review
Matt, I try not to judge cars solely if I like them or not just by pictures because the pictures doesn’t give you that three dimensional real world view and look at the vehicle!
First time viewer. Subscribed and liked! Looking forward to watching your other vids.
Thank you for subscribing! I really appreciate it!
Ordered mine today!
Thanks for comparing the BRZ to the GR86 on driving dynamics, interesting too hear
New BRZ has C7 face. Love it. Way better than the GR86 front grille.
Matt speaking straight FACTS
Really happy about the seats being more comfortable
Really hate to say it, but I think I prefer the more understated front-end of the Toyota 86 twin of the BRZ. And, ironically the more up-swept spoiler on the 86 too. Still.... I'd feel weird taking a Subaru with Toyota badges to a Toyota dealership garage if the car years down the road needed some work done on it.
R.I.P. physical key, you will be missed....
If there was not a New Z coming this would be on my radar. Great car!
Exhaust sounds better on the brz than the 86 seems like? Maybe just the camera but this engine sounds so good 😊! Thanks for the review Matt!
I had a 2014 BRZ. I’ve had a Miata RF since 2017. I’ve just ordered a ‘22 BRZ…manual, Limited Spec, with the optional STI short shifter, in Ice Silver Metallic.
That's awesome, congrats!
@@MattMaranMotoring Got to love small, lightish, RWD, manual, sports cars. Sadly, I think the 86/BRZ/Nissan-Z and the Miata could be the last of the breed. We MAY get another generation of Miata if we are lucky, but then it’s probably the end of the line. This is sad…so I have to have to buy one of them.
@@thomasengel1459 There is no comparison. I have an RF, and had a 2014 BRZ and from a packaging perspective, the new one seems similar. The Miata is tiny with no luggage space (one carry on sized bag an that’s it). In my BRZ I’ve had a full set of track wheels and tyres, a trolley jack, and two drive on ramps. There is no comparison on load space. I’m 5’11” and the RF drivers seat fits like a glove, but if you are over 6’1” in the RF, you’ll be cramped. Even I find the passenger tight because the subwoofer placement eats the legroom. In the BRZ? My 6’4” friend had no trouble getting comfortable either side. No…it ain’t Miata sized at all.
@@thomasengel1459 I don’t think you’ll regret it
I have a 2.4L in my civic and naturally aspirated torque is nice torque :)
Don’t like the license plate molding on the front. Is this the same dark blue that’s on the GR86?
It is. They share most of the colors like the last gen, I believe the only unique shades are World Rally Blue for the BRZ and Neptune Blue for the GR 86.
Yea. The 86's front plate holder is hidden in the grill.
Great Video but too much ambient noise once you start driving. Please get closer to your mic in the next presentation when you're driving.
Put in my order at my local dealer for the BRZ Limited in red. Went from a used RX8 that I sold for a new '20 Camaro SS. Regretted it, driving that RX8 was a fuckin blast, driving the SS was cool but GM makes everything so boring. If the BRZ is everything all these reviewers are saying it is, than it's that same low cost lightweight sports car formula that I fell in love with when I drove my RX8, and I can't wait to drive it home.
Good choice. These should be even more fun than an rx8 (not to mention way more reliable, way quicker, better looking & sounding too).
Congrats on the order! I think you'll love it, redline is obviously lower than an RX-8 but I think it'll be the best of all the worlds for you. Still light, lots more torque in the lower rpms than the RX-8 but still loves to rev and rip in the upper RPMs, plus the better reliability, better fuel economy, and newer tech.
I can tell you were really enjoying the acceleration test beecuse the vein in your neck was popping out!!!
I have watched your review a few times. I cant wait to get one later this year. I can not decide between the ice silver color or the sapphire blue color. Which do you prefer Matt?
Sadly ill have to pick one of these up in another 2 years. But it’ll definitely be worth the wait as they will iron out any defects or recalls that happen over the first year production
Great video, keep it up!
It seems to remind me a lot of my 2013 FRS still, but I am really excited about the new generation. I want to see how it compares to everything I've done with my FRS. I get roughly the low to mid 20s in fuel economy now, but I also think I get about the same ballpark in torque, so I may be close to the new one power-wise.
I've owned both gens for a year, my FRS has full bolt-ons with an e85 OpenFlash tune. My stock 2023 BRZ is still noticeably faster.
I think it boils down to whether you want the GR86's superior styling? (They didn't integrate the license plate into the bumper mold.) Or if you want Subaru backing up your warranty claims? (Toyota dealerships aren't going to be anywhere nearly as competent working on that Boxer motor, which got proven out with the valve spring recall.)
Crickets gone? How’s 1st & 2nd engagement when cold? It looks a lot better in your video than the press photos. Nice work!
Thanks! Didn’t drive it cold so can’t comment on the transmission but they did switch trans fluid for better shifts at colder temps. Crickets are gone.
owned a frs 2013 now a brz ts with HKS super charger ....the new ones im not digging ill get nismo 400z next .. that head unit bezels are huge and bulky
Great Review & we have very similar taste in how we enjoy cars. You helped me take a leap in my 1st hot hatch an Abarth. Now I’m ready for rwd for final gas car. How’d you compare BRZ vs Miata RF? Especially ride quality for commuting and hilly curvy ‘B’ roads. Some auto cross but daily use is my concern.
I’m planning to get a brz idk if I’ll really feel like it’s slow cuz I’m in dubai and all the roads are mostly straight yes there are curves for over head exits and roundabouts and all but I’m coming for a jag xf with a 3.0 super charged v6 and the super charger really makes it feel really fast and also I have an auto license cuz in Dubai getting a manual license maybe takes 2 years to get but yes idk what to get a veloster n dct or brz auto
Can I buy a BRZ with automatic trans., primacy tires, and heated seats, in the same model? Larry Gater Jan. 3033
i cant wait it come to store here i want it on Black
Black grey and silver look real nice on this car
Well, the GR got the start up animation in the center guage, free 2 year maintenance and the cheaper plastic door openner panels. Things I wish they both have are a "sun and sound package."
This has a start up animation too, I just didn’t film it. It says BRZ in the middle with the same boxer piston animation as the GR.
@@MattMaranMotoring Hope they could improve the brightness in the following model year...
The 86 Premium gets a 8-speaker JBL system and it's been said there is gonna be a optional trunk Sub as well. I haven't seen anything at all about the BRZ's audio system.
@@DragonKnightX12 I'm not sure where you read that the 8 speaker system is a JBL unit, but it isn't branded as such if it is. At the official presentation they didn't tell us about any branding for the 8 speaker system. Option sub in the trunk is true, they told us about that. No branding for it either. The BRZ systems will be the same and will likely offer the same sub.
@@MattMaranMotoring I swear I read that somewhere. It does sound pretty decent on TheTopher's 86 review.
Just thought it was kind of odd Subaru dosen't mention anything about, even when their already taking orders.
I’m a little confused on the paddles when I’m automatic, when normally driving would you just leave them a line or do you still need to use the paddles even though it’s automatic
Subaru fan is back :-)
2 quick questions: are the Premium trim Primacy tires the HP or the MXM4 versions and does the Premium come with rubber or aluminum pedals on the MT car? The first question addresses colder climates, the second would be a difference with the base GR86. Thank you.
I believe they’re the HP version, I show them in my GR 86 review. Pedals I believe are only aluminum on the Premium Toyota and Limited Subaru, but I only looked at the auto for the base model.
Toyota and Subaru should build a sport sedan using the same engine and transmissions. I'm pretty sure people would be interest in a sedan with the same rear wheel drive, good engine and transmissions but with extra room of a sedan and higher ground clearance. Of course the sedan is not as hard core, but it's a good compromise.
Ooo
That will make the car at least weigh 300lbs more, with higher centre of gravity. completely defeating the ethos of 86
It starts at 15:34.
i hope when you do the new subaru wrx review you do a throwback "subaruwrxfan here"
According to Jason Cammisa (from Hagerty), the new GR86 (base) can hit note to 60 in only 5.9 seconds (standstill). So that means the premium might be able to do 5.7ish cuz of the better tires. Not that it matters in a car like this but still.
In manual or auto?
@@richardblake5533
Manual base model
Not bad at all. I've seen the old gen tested manual at 6.2 in ideal conditions so maybe it can be faster in the right hands.
@@richardblake5533
Yeah and this is with the less grippy tires. In the right conditions, with the right driver, the premium models can probably do it in 5.7ish seconds.
Analogue gauges would look so much better.
Lovely car though well done.
You're very kind, Matt, to hold off on judging those who opt for the automatic. In my opinion, 100% of BR-Zs should be manual from the factory.
Gotta cater to the people that drive with 1 leg too 🤣
You said that in the previous generation 86 the auto shifted really quickly but in this one it's slow? It's the same gearbox maybe even a bit faster yet it's slower to shift?
I wish I could get the engine and chassis of the 6th gen Camaro but with this styling.
Cabin is really noisy. Too bad they didn't add more sound deadening material
How much more aerodynamic is this compared to 1st gen?
What shoes are you wearing? They look like specialized driver's shoes. I have been looking and looking and those are THE coolest shoes I have ever seen; made for heel & toe driving? Where can they be bought? I have not seen anything like them before! Thank you in advance..
They should’ve made it with a hatchback like the original Trueno
Which grill do you like more the gr86 or the BRZ’s
Looks alot better, can't wait to see one inperson 😎
You should have used the old SubaruWRXFan intro for old times sake for this review
I’m sorry but the new 86 front end looks so much better in my opinion. Not only that but the premium comes with the sick duckbill spoiler
Hi Matt, may I ask a simple question? Are there any changes to the car keys? Compared with 1st generation BRZ?