The Worst Kingsguard in Game of Thrones History
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00:00 Worst Kingsguard Ever
00:48 Current Status
01:10 Why Do These Guys Suck
02:13 Just Some Guy, Probably
03:05 One Good Man
04:15 Balon's Quest
05:03 I have a sponsor!
06:17 A Dead Viewpoint
06:49 Loras Tyrell and Ambiguity of Injury
07:29 The Lord Commander
08:29 An Interesting Case
09:14 Too Old
10:14 The Single Worst Kingsguard
11:14 A Scrapped Death
12:04 Conclusions 
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Alright, this is going too far. Now you’re telling me being lazy, cruel, and just generally incapable makes someone bad at their job
Me, in bed and not doing my work:😠
Only if your job requires you to be a fucking stud
Except Ser Jaime Lannister, Ser Arthur Dayne, and Ser Barristan Selmy
Next your gonna try and tell me my crippling hatred of kids will affect my job as a teacher
@@daith_izumiyou did not just put the Kingslayer in the same breath as the Sword of the Morning or Ser Barristan the Bold… the man who wet his blade with the blood of the King he was sworn to defend
"The lord commander represents the king's guard"
So in this case a shadow of what it once was.
Aerys II: “Jesus Christ… even I wouldn’t burn someone that badly.”
@@InquisitorThomas Tywin Lannister: "It's not really a "burn" when its a matter of fact."
Petyr Baelish: "Quite right Lord Tywin, and whom is this "Jesus Christ" some queer god from the east?"
Arys Oakheart was committing suicide by cop with that charge. He realized what he was doing and wanted out. He didn't want to be known as Criston Cole 2.0.
Ding ding ding
Omega cringe
That would require succeeding in making Myrcella queen.. it would never happen.
I like how the decline of the Kingsguard mirrors the decline of the Night's Watch. Just like the Watch becomes a dumping ground for criminals, the guard is increasingly composed of sub-par thugs, promoted way above their abilities as a reward for political loyalty.
And also of the result of Qyburn's Re-Animator shenanigans, of course.
touché, the only difference I suppose is that the nights watch had a slow decline where as the kingsguard became awful about the time the Rebellion reached it's conclusion
I mean it's like one generation of trash. To all our knowledge Selmy, Darry,, Whent, Martell, and Dayne all were great knights
@@davidlewis5312 this. Before this current generation of Kingsguard you could count the bad ones on one hand, with the majority of the rest being either skilled knights that did their duty to their king or heroic individuals like Selmy and Dayne.
@@maxholmgren7936Such a shame that the most horrible King of Westeros posessed the finest generation of Kingsguard.
The night's watch is milenea older than the king's guard, when the first man took the white the crows were already waay past their prime
Hilarious. When you announced that the video would be "Worst Kingsguard Ever", my exact thought was "By what definition or standard could any of the historic KGs be worse than our current lot??"
And that was BEFORE you reminded me that one of the current KGs is literally the reanimated corpse of a vicious war criminal.
But there are still some kingsguards who are worse then some of the current. Strong the lustfull (forgot the first name), the several members involved in the many plots after the dance of dragons for example
I mean, Loras and Balon are pretty cool
By what right does the wolf judge the lion?
@@OlSCrabsAllegedly. We can't yet prove that Ser Bob Muscles isn't just a new guy.
Boros Blount is gonna have his moment just you see, he’s gonna go psycho mode vs The Faith and Faegon and The Others
Boros Blount is Azor Ahai.
He’s also ahorse
When I saw this title I thought "isn't that just the current one?" Glad you agree xD
Yea they suck
"Boros, I know we fired you on the account of being a craven piece of shit, but we legitimately could not find a suitable replacement for you. _You_ specifically. Just get back in here."
@@MechaLeothat says more about the Realms state than anything else
One of my favorite scene is the one where Jaime tell his brothers how they all suck, except for Ser Balon (❤)
I served with The Sword of the Morning, who could kill all of you with his left hand, while taking a piss woth his right
Balon Swann is a better fighter than you give him credit. He was in the thick of the battle on the Blackwater. He is a finalist in the archery contest of the Hand's Tourney beaten only by Anguy (and maybe Jalabhar). Tyrion describes him as skilled at arms with lance and morning-star, and superb with the bow. In another period he would have been part of a good batch of Kingsguard. And of course Hotah can tell he would be a much tougher opponent than Arys.
Balon is also accredited by Doran as an honorable man who has been asked to do something that conflicts with his honor and Doran feels aggrieved FOR HIM. High praise indeed. Balon was also sent because of his capability and sense of honor would have made him a canindate for Margarery to call upon during a trial by combat. And honestly Balon could probably carve most sparrows to little meaty bits.
I for one, think it would be really cool if they had a character like Balon slowly revealed to be the best fighter alive. Like this minor character that everyone knows is good, but not great, wins a surprising fight that seems for sure to be a one sided loss(Balon v Hotah maybe) and then he just keeps winning fight after fight from there until the series finale.
@@stephengrigg5988 I think Luthor Brune is more like for that outcome
The hollowing and cheapening of the Kingsguard is absolutely The Wire tier in terms of a once great institution being mismanaged into the ground by wicked or, even worse, uncaring people
I think we have to wonder how much of the organisation’s rep is based on their value as propaganda for the kings they serve tho
@@danielallen4450 Definitely a significant part of their value. I'll be considering this so I thank you
@@ThommyofThenn No worries. Nice we can have a civil discussion
@@danielallen4450 it's something I pride myself on :) you too
While Joffrey/Tommen's Kingsguard suck, when are we going to hear about Lucamore the Lusty?
He deserves his own video
I was going to say, this is my non-current worst Kingsguard choice.
At least he had some proven strength. He one a tourney or two and was obviously a good choice at the time. Of course the guy broke his vows but he'd probably beat half of the current kingsguard easy
@@z2eihe wouldnt make it top 10 worst, his case was public so it got registered but the history book style of the sources wouldnt know about the truly corrupt or weak ones, nobody is gonna write or remember mery trant for example.
Suddenly, I have the 2 Live Crew hit song "Me So Horny" going through my head.
I have never seen anyone mention the very LARGE dwarf head the low born tried to pass off as Tyrion's to Cersei. Cersei knew it wasn't the correct head and the head ended up with Qyburn. I believe the head sent to Dorne was Clegane's and Robert Strong is Clegane's body with the dwarf head.
Side note I think that dwarf was the sparrow that Brienne meets in AFFC.
When the undead knight serving a necromancer/maester is the member of the Kingsguard that seems the most legit, that kind of says it all, haha!
The thing with Loras is the Tyrells are kind of believed to have engaged in a siege, but not really trying all that hard in the past. Mace did the siege of Stannis at Storm's End, but it seems more like a chance to stay out of the actual fighting while appearing to support the crown. Therefore, his house really wouldn't piss either side off too much. The idea of Loras pulling something similar and adding an "injury" so he wouldn't have to return too quickly and give his house room to maneuver makes sense. After all, he might face his own trial in KL or just be another hostage of the Lannisters there.
I feel you could have mentioned the kingsguards installed by Unwin Peake who were just brutes there to serve his interests against those of the king Aegon III and who allowed queen Jaehaera to die on their watch to the point foul play is suspected. Not only that but they laid siege to their king. And even killed their lord commander when he tried to arrest them in the name of their king.Also the controversial role of Criston Cole on Aegon's rise to the throne as knights of the kingsguards shouldn't be kingmakers.
I talk about those nepo babies a bit in my House Peake Video
Honestly i kinda hope that they include Marston Waters and they go with the more honorable route for his character, maybe he starts out as a morally dubious but decides to take his role more seriously as time passes, then when he finds out he was being tricked into plotting against his king he dies a tragic death. He is a minor character that i kinda like, but i think HBO will probably merge Gyles Belgrave and Marston Waters in the show if they make them at all
@@b_de_silva Waters is weird, I don't think he is that noble, but he isn't a complete blackheart either. He knew the charges were nonsense during the Lysene spring in my mind, but he just went with it. Same as Munikan. Sure, he flipped in the end, but only when the jig was so painfully up that he had no choice. There is no way as both Lord Commander and 'Hand' he didn't know how badly Rowan was broken.
Balon swan is one of the better warriors in Westeros. Like you said he's in every book. Reread the first one and you realize he does extremely well in the Hand's tourney. Especially at Archery. He was a runner up
Im kind of repeating my comment here, but it would be cool if the books almost did Balon like show Jon. Like maybe he fights Hotah and gets a surprising win, then he just keeps winning more fights against other skilled fighters. I think it would be cool to have this very minor character thats been present in all the books reveal himself as basically the best swordsman alive. Idk, maybe its a stupid fanfic idea, but I think it could actually fit with the themes and tone of this world.
@@stephengrigg5988 he does feel like a wild card. Especially since Oakheart was originally supposed to live and Blount was going to die. I feel the original showdown would of been Swan v Oakheart. Who knows now
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Jaime also has the distinction of having been a member of the kingsguard for 3 successful assassinations of a King. One by his own hand, one by a plot directed by his sister to cover up their bed hopping, and one that he was 100% innocent with regard to! I guess not being complicit or an uninvolved accessory to an assassination is a step up for Jaime. Best of luck with Tommen not being number 4.
And when you consider that the only official kings to be assassinated are Maegor, Aegon II, and Daemon Blackfyre if you want to go that way prior to Aerys II... that's something!
King Aenys, King Baelor, and King Viserys II might have been assassinated but this is unconfirmed.
Now I for one would love to hear your detailed and voloptuous reasons as to how Arys' chapter has grown on you so, Lord Quinn ☺️😉
I love the idea that in her trial by combat, Cersei’s champion could literally lose his head and keep fighting, even perhaps slaying his opponent without his head on his own shoulders-revealing Cersei to have used black magic to help her win a trial before the Gods. Like only something so horrible and gruesome could fit in my opinion. She can’t just lose-she has to “win” but be revealed as the worst sort of cheater and witch imaginable.
Yeah I imagine using a remainted zombie monster is pretty much high blasphemy
@Somethingclever11111 The kind of thing that would make all septons present either keel over in horror or go frothing mad.
Jaime's "breakdown" of Kingsguard is one of my favorite chapters in "Storm", especially the part where he has a cock contest with Loras.
Anyway, I often found myself wondering how exactly did Meryn and Boros ended up in the Kingsguard in the first place (I'd ask the same about Preston Greenfield, but we barely knew him). I mean, both are often described as incompetent, cruel and average fighters and it's not like they're from any big houses which might justify their presence. With all others you can at least get some sort of idea of how they got there, but these two are an enigma.
Honestly i think George did not really think that out at the time, I think that is his gardening technique at play
They are mentioned to be Tywin's men, and are useful lackeys to the Lannisters. It's conceivable that Cersei had some influence on Robert after their marriage to add them to his Kingsguard so that they can carry out whatever menial or unscrupulous task that Cersei (or Tywin by proxy) needed them to do.
Greenfield seemed more competent than those two if not extraordinary. He was also Westerlander representation to give Tywin/Cersei a bone.
Trant is from the Stormlands and Blount from the Crownlands which could have been a part of their membership. An award to Robert's loyal Stormlanders (but somehow didn't find anyone better than Borros volunteering) and some token Crownlander.
Oh yes! I was also wondering about this. I mean, Boros never put up any fight! We know that when he was younger, he lost at the Lannisport tournament to Jorah Mormont, Johrah is a fine fighter but a jouster? And then Boros was supposed to fetch Sansa, when she was left behind during the riots and he didn't do it. He was supposed to protect Tommen and he yielded him without any fight. Like, he is not politically savy, he is not brave, he is not a good jouster, how on earth, was he chosen to be one of the seven best knights in Westeros?
Blunt especially should have never gotten a spot. Meryn at least can put up a fight. Sure, I do think someone like Bronn can carve him six ways to his next name day but honestly, it's a short list of people Bronn CAN'T do that to. But seriously how did Selmy, Jon Arryn, Robert, Renly, and Stannis get bamboozled into letting that oaf into the guard?
*I believe everyone hates Ser Meryn Trant.*
Ser Lucamore the lusty deserves a shout. 3 wives 9 children is alot lol
I scrolled way too far till I saw Ser Lucamore mentioned.
3 wives, 9 children, no balls
I love the depth and scope of history in ASOIAF. So many generations of brilliantly well-imagined characters of all kinds
"Arys Oakheart was initially supposed to survive and duel Balon Swann". Ngl that does sound awesome, but I guess it's kinda nonsensical too.
I think Joffrey’s original Kingsguard lineup is worse. Ser Jaime is made Lord Commander out of pure nepotism WHILST he’s captured in the Riverlands. Ser Meryn and Ser Boros are bad, but so is Ser Preston who spends his days drinking and visiting brothels. Ser Mandon is a quiet brute with unknown loyalties (though he was instated by Jon Arryn = Lysa = Littlefinger). Sandor Clegane is also a quiet brute who’s not even a knight (thus not very legit in the eyes of anyone). Ser Arys is… present. Dismissing Ser Barristan was a big mistake. Most of them also beat Sansa with almost no remorse.
I think Loras and Balon are absolutely improvements over Preston and Mandon. Osmund over Sandor is a bit of a wash.
If not for Sandor's desertion he would arguably be the best of Joffrey's kingsguard. He is one of the most skilled fighters in the realm, is loyal to the king ( albeit with some reservations), and despite his brutish appearance is the most chivalrous knight in Joffrey's kingsguard. Too bad Blackwater Bay had a lot of fire involved.
@@sebastianpijov8708 That's from the point of view of a reader. Looking at it in universe even a non-famous knight like Osmund is better than a non-knight like Sandor for the prestige of the Kingsguard (Even with Sandor being the better fighter. Also we know that he is a somewhat decent person deep inside. Most other characters don't).
@@gokbay3057 In universe the Kingsguard led by Lord Commander KingSlayer is probably thought of as a complete farce.
I love the idea that the kingsguard have been getting progressively less honorable and respectable as times gone on. So of course the current lot are the lowest of the low
Would an adult, overweight man be a good food taster for a child king? Body size is big deal when it comes to the effectiveness of poisons.
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Obviously Prince Aemon the Dragon Knight should have been put here. His very trustworthy brother said he fathered the illegitimate king Daeron. Daeron then prevented Daemon Blackfyre from becoming king. Worst kingsguard. 😂
Exactly
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He was not the father of King Daeron Targaryan and did not allow the usurper Daemon Blackfyre to seize the throne. He was one of the best royal guardsmen
@@user-uf9lz5wz4n he could have been
Ser Arys was such a waste of potential.. sucks to be a hopeless romantic
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Oakheart did seem like a good person to me, but alas, he wasnt able to show his potential. Rip
Why did Tywin reinstate Boros as a Kingsguard? Are the Blounts an important house in the Crownlands? Did he used to be competent and respected? Or was it just so the Kingsguard would be full? It’s always been a weird decision because why wouldn’t Tywin want someone competent protecting his legacy?
I’ve always wondered the same thing. Tywin is one of, if not the most intelligent, & calculating characters in the books but this move was insanely stupid. I don’t think the Blounts are that important, as far as I know Ser Boros is the only one we’ve met in the series & they’re never mentioned. But if Ser Barristan could be dismissed for “letting his king die” then Boros should absolutely be dismissed for surrendering his prince to captors without a fight.
I think he was supposed to help get rid of Robert, somehow. Maybe arrange for a Targ supporter to go after Bobby B while only Blount was around.
Wait, what if Robert added him just to have a drinking buddy?
He is a useful lackey willing to do menial and unscrupulous tasks for Tywin. Having a knight with close access to the king is very valuable for Tywin, and Tywin is unconcerned with any threats to Tommen's life. Tommen is well enough protected, and Tywin is arrogant enough to think Tommen is untouchable while he is in King's Landing with the Lannister army. Even though Boros is useless as a bodyguard from a martial perspective, he will break his vows and carry out whatever task Tywin needs of him without pushing back like Balon Swann would.
Tywin is a short-term thinker. Yes, he's very clever and is able to manipulate people, and his actions are successful in the short term. But his short-term plans often fail in the long run.
King Daemon Blackfyre would have had an amazing Kingsguard.
He was not a king, he was a usurper who lost the rebellion
@user-uf9lz5wz4n He was King to many seemly half of the Continent. and he only lost because of dishonor after King Daemon Blackfyre himself acted so honorably.
okay bittersteel whatever you say
>Aegor Bittersteel
Lol
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Worst individual Kinsguard was without any doubt, Criston Cole! Didn’t just lead his king to his death, but in the end, the entire royal dynasty.
LMAO Criston is a legend someone clearly has a case of HOTD brain.
Rose through the ranks purely on merit, devoted to law and order, and led his men on the field of battle.
He even was willing to fight multiple warriors on his own if it meant he could spare his men.
The Kingmaker is one of the greatest Kingsguard to ever live.
@@DanLanningPRTeamHe isn’t a real person. This is all for fun. Calm down lol
@@herefortheshrimp1469 this is literally a comment on a video going over the history of the Kingsguard in ASOIAF.
Why aren’t you telling the person who was critiquing Criston’s character to calm down and that he isn’t a real person?
So fucking annoying to come across these kind of comments every single time, where people make statements of their opinion, and then the second someone disagrees, Trolls like you come in and tell me to calm down when all that was being done was a discussion about the content of the video we just watched.
This is literally a video focused on discussion of the Kingsguard, and you come in trying to police the discussion in the comments?
Honestly, who do you think you are that gets to play judge and jury?
If anything, I think you’re the one who is mixing reality with fiction if you weren’t able to tell that my original comment was clearly about a fictional character.
Please seek psychiatric help.
Criston Cole may not have been a “good person” but he’s literally one of the most legendary members of the Kingsguard and you can’t take that away from him just because you don’t support his choice of monarch.
He was such a unit he offered a 3v1 and they turned him down using an “honourable death” as an excuse, the only deaths they prevented in refusing to fight him was their own.
@@Ivbo Are we judging them based on fame? Or how well they Guarded their King? I presumed the ladder.
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Balon Swann is very skilled at arms. He was 2nd best in the archery contest at the Hands tourney as well as being stated to be good with the sword and even better with a morningstar
Balon Swann’s big secret plan was definitely the one Doran put together immediately in that one dance chapter ie. Lead Trystane back through the mountains, kill him, blame it on Tyrion
I think it might be similar to that, though I’m unsure Doran’s source on the specifics
Yeah I’m with you, I just think it’s extremely in character for Cersei to give out a sneaky secret mission out to someone and have it immediately discovered and foiled
Secret plot for Swann was the plot to kill Trystane on the return to KL and blame it on Tyrion that Doran revealed in ADWD
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Bruv, isn't house Strong extinct? Did Cersei ever explain how she found a legitimate Strong?
He’s just been at harrenhal chilling for 170 years
Maybe House Strong didn't go extinct, just the branch with a claim to Harrenhal. That would be Lucamore's brother, his sons, their sons, and their sons. But since House Strong had been around since forever, or at least since the Conquest, there were likely other Strongs that kept the name going. Kind of like how Edd Tollett shares a name with those Vale lords, but is too distant a cousin to get anything for it.
So they could be trying to pass him off as some riverlander, but I think it's more likely they chose the name for prestige points, not plausibility. He wouldn't be the first to name himself Strong (there are a couple in the Golden Company too) or to take Robert's name to honor the king.
But yeah, a surprise knight out of nowhere with an on-the-nose pseudonym is both suspicious, and the least suspicious thing about him. I think Cersei is just hoping to survive her trial and get Myrcella back before Bob starts leaking flesh, and Qyburn is hoping to see his creation wreck house and then reveal how the Martells were right all along.
@@simonholmes841 So you're telling me Aemond failed to kill every man with Strong blood 😎
@@RapaxGuardian Oh definitely. (Possible HotD Spoilers) Fire and Blood is pretty contradictory about it, which is confusing, but we know Lord Larys survived that incident by being elsewhere.
Estimates range between the number of Strong prisoners at Harrenhal, probably 6-12; up to a pile of heads three feet high, which I'd estimate as at least 60. "No trueborn Strong was spared," but I get the impression Aemond didn't even try to look outside the castle. "Every man and boy" was executed, but we get no mention of women besides Alys Rivers, who was spared.
It's possible there were no Strongs outside the castle besides Larys, and no women besides Alys (besides Larys' sisters, who might have been dead, and were completely ignored in the story) . . . but both of those being true is unlikely.
More likely, anyone who was still claiming Strong ancestors (besides Alys and Larys) shut up about it as soon as they heard what happened at Harrenhal.
Also if I made the show I’d show the Siege of Dragonstone Season 5 while Aurane is narrating and have Loras be burned only to find out later in season 6 that it was a lie
Loras' injuries are a political play to make it clear the tyrells are loyal to the crown but also get Loras out of the guard as he's no longer fit to serve.(precedent set with Baristan)
4:11 Maybe his secret mission is the one Doran found out about already: to have Trystane killed on the way back to King's Landing.
I love how you say „Im excited to see that“ about anything in Winds of Winter, like we wouldn‘t be excited about everything winds of winter would contain if it came out regardless of how exciting it seems right now 😭
Before I watch I'll say this.
No one can be worse than Borus Blunt or Maryn Trant in their cruelty and incompetence.
Most Kings Guard in history had a point to what they were doing. The current generation is just all dogs besides Barriston Selmy and the redeemed Kingslayer Jaime.
Ill edit my comment once I'm done watching, lol.
Since most of the non ASOIAF sources are essentially history books, it's almost impossible to tell about the worst knights in history since those sorts don't have a political or military impact on history.
Am I the only one who thinks it’s stupid that there are 7 guards in the Royal Guard? This is too little. There were 10 thousand guards in the guard of the Roman emperors and Westeros was larger than the Roman Empire
It makes more sense to have a small, utterly loyal and capable bodyguard. Ten thousand men is simply too many to be an effective personal guard.
What you’re referring to was more like the Emperor’s personal retinue/standing army.
@warlordofbritannia I agree with this guy, plus 7 is a holy number in Westeros due to the Faith of the 7 being the dominant religion, and the smallfolk find it a powerful symbol. Plus, 7 bodyguards is a small enough number to know each of their names and feats, as if legendary heroes. Bran, for example, idolizes them, whereas if there were 10,000, he would just think of them as faceless grunts.
@@j-rey-accurate, 7 is the perfect number for an elite bodyguard, also I believe every Targ king still had a standing household guard
The Praetorian Guard killed a lot of Roman emperors so despite being so few in number the Kingsguard generally seemed to be a lot better at their job.
Yes. Yes you are.
The kingsguard are not the Royal Guard. There are plenty of Royal Guards who serve at the palace. We even get a couple of interactions with them.
The Kingsguard are *bodyguards*. Think like the President and the secret service. When the President goes somewhere, the Secret Service plan it out in advance for safety, and use men from local law enforcement for certain duties. It is also their role to perform background checks on everyone involved, and to perform *close protection*.
That's the Kingsguard. They are meant to lead the forces guarding the king, and stand as his last line of defense and champion. They aren't simply meant to stand at castle doors, there are hundreds of people doing that, gold cloaks, house guard. It is the kingsuard's responsibility to oversee all these people. Seven is a holy number, and more than sufficient to cover 2 locations in rotating shifts. Like, yeah, they probably could expand that number out to 20, but any more than that and you are making things worse not better. The guard is already nepotistic and broken, you don't need more space for mediocre people-especially when these people are in charge of the overall security, and from a reader's standpoint, you need to keep track of them.
The issue becomes when they are scattered. Myrcella in Dorne has one KG, meaning that there are times when that KG will be exhausted and not sharp, and times where he is not personally overseeing the Lannister house guards. Also he gets misled, misdirected, and then wrecked. Cersei has very few choices to defend her in her upcoming trial until Strong is brought in, and Margery has an even rougher time there.
You made a video a while back ttalking about what chracter george killed that kinda painted him into a corner [as per grrm]. That character which you had no clear consensus about in the video, is absolutely Arys Oakheart.
no way, he adds nothing, balon is there now, and arianne and areo are povs, hes to unimportant to matter this much.
Thought the same thing before clicking: Isn't the current Kingsguard already pretty much awful? Especially compared to Barristen, Peak Jamie and the sword of the morning. Cercei really ruined the Kingdom (for example by dismissing Barristan, sending away half the Kingsguard). Also the same with her small council, before Kevan tried to save what's left to be saved. She really is a narcissistic awful ruler.
Finally! Someone remembers the Wiverlands!
I don’t see why Jaime can’t be Hand and Lord Commander like Criston
"A Hand without a hand? A bad jape, sister."
He could, legally. He just doesn't want to. Too stressful, too boring, too much work, too many haters.
I can’t believe I’ve never heard a theorist or fan make this point before, but Robert Strong being Gregor and Gregor’s head being sent to Dorne could BOTH be true.
Robert Strong having no head under his helm is right up GRRM’s alley of things that are very subtle and VERY scary
Yes! My thoughts exactly! Also, I'm not sure if Qyburn isn't actually sewing heads of other people into Strong's corpse. I mean, there is this blink and you miss moment when he says that Falyse is not "comfortable" where she is now.
There is also the strange part when he says that Falyse is unable to feed herself. Isn't it possible that while Falyse's head was sewn into Strong's corpse, her own corpse is somehow still... how to say to.... undead but unable to eat since there is no head...
It is also possible that Qyburn is... kind of... changing the heads, i.e. sewing other heads into Robert Strong... There is this another mention about puppeteers being "used up". Is Qyburn keeping these poor gals alive while transplanting their organs into Robert Strong?
Ayo, I’m starting to think this guy goes to law school
One thing you didn't mention... Osmund Kettleblack might not even be a real knight. He claimed he was knighted after battle by a man who subsequently died, making it impossible to confirm his story either way. We never see him in any combat situation either iirc, so his actual fighting ability is completely unknown as well. Basically, he talked his way into a position of power, then got a place on the kingsguard because of politics. He could be the worst of the lot, especially since his lack of a knighthood would make him ineligible to serve as a kingsguard knight.
One thing is Balon Swann is a good knight and fighter and can’t be disrespected as well as Loras
The worst must be Jaime Lannister. He lost 4 kings and a Queen under his watch.
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Of this kingsguard I feel Swann, Tyrell and maybe Oakheart (if you keep him away from Arianne) are actually good choices, or at least they are relatively to what the recent lineup has been.
They all seem to be capable fighters and decent men. Loras might be a bit too prideful for the position, but you can’t really deny he’s skilled enough and with his sister being the queen it helps his case more as he obviously wants to keep his sister safe.
It will be interesting to see if Loras actually is horribly wounded or not. I tend to think the dude who just stole the royal fleet might not be the most reliable source on this stuff, but who knows.
I do reckon tho that Loras and the redwyne fleet are actually sailing around to protect the Reach and that Loras for the time being is fine.
Balon Swann unfortunately is probably cooked in Winds, which really leaves all 3 of the decent ones either dead or busy/potentially horribly wounded.
The thing is Jaime's skills as a battlefield command don't really help him in the primary job of the Kingsguard. As Tywin put it, they're glorified bodyguards. For that, he's kind of shit.
0:40 dude actually assumes we'll ever see The Winds of Winter.
I thought this was going to be a video on ser Lucamore the lusty icl
I mean..how many Kings did Jamie serve? How many lived?
Where would Ser Lucamore Strong rank?
To be fair, their king lasted much longer than Renly's guard protected him for. So they weren't the worst in that regard
I've always thought that Jaime could get about 80% of his skills back if he would strap a blade on his stump. He would probably lose the ability to rain strikes from every angle, but he is such a good fighter that he would still be better than all but the best fighters.
Imagine having a King's Guard worse than that of Aegon the Unworthy 🧐
I hope they get some better members by the end of the story.
Current kingsguard is such in low state that even the hound who isn’t even a knight was recruited
In the show, most definitely Jaime dude straight up killed a man he swore to protect and left to fight a war that the king didn't fight a SINGLE battle in... like bruh
Can’t believe you left out sir pounce, like I know he’s under cover, and he managed to avoid aria. Sir Pounce legend no1
Arys Oakheart is a nounced one, on the one hand he simped for Arianne Martell, but on the other dem Dornish girls tho.
"Beheaded by a camera" HAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!
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Was ser Duncan actually any good? In the three novellas we have he's just kind of brave and lucky
Again, depending on what criteria we're going on, Criston Cole, Mervyn Flowers, and several other of the traitorous kingsguard would count, however, they all are at least moderately skilled fighters. The Kingsguard at the start of the books might actually be worse as fighters, with Arys Oakheart and Preston Greenfield not noted for any great combat skill, if not seeming to be as awful people as Meryn and Boros. On the other hand, you still had a fully whole Jaime, and Barristan Selmy.
Balon is definitely an above average swordsman because both Jaime and Tyrion view him as an acceptable choice which I’d say they’d account for both him being honorable and a good fighter
As you said, based on the job a kingsguard is meant to do, Jaime is the worst kingsguard to ever live. Arguably those lower down the list are more useful to their Kings based on their flexible sense of morality.
Can it really be the worst kingsguard without Criston Cole?
What about Ser Lucamore the Lusty and Ser Criston Cole?
At least Cole was loyal to the Greens and a skilled Fighter.
I think Cole is only "bad" from a Black perspective. Jaime even says he represents both the best and the worst. I don't believe George ever intended us to view him as a pure villain
tbf we don't exactly hear about the bad historical kingsgaurd cause history doesnt focus on the dudes who were bad at their job. We only get an unbiased look at the kingsgaurd during GoT and maybe Dunk And Egg (idk if they even come up past the first book??), there have prolly been plenty of shit ones we don't know about because no one cares about highlighting them or their lack of achievements.
I don't think Barriston selmy is that great of a kingsguard. He is no doubt a great fighter, one of the best in fact. But he consistently cannot protect his king from himself. Aeris, Robert, Joffrey, and Probably Dany too.
Don't forget Rhaegar.
@@sebastianpijov8708 you're right him too
thats not fair, hes a bodyguard, not a therapist
Ser Robert Strong definitely has a big ASSterisk…..but all jokes aside he is a monster
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What about poor Mandon Moore??
Robert's Kingsguard isn't that bad honestly, Jaime and Barristan are two of the best fighters ever, Mandon Moore is a badass, Trant beat the First Sword of Braavos which counts for a lot imo, Arys is a by all accounts a good swordsman and Preston Greenfield dies protecting his King. Only Boros is especially bad.
Mandon Moore lost to Podrick.
@@oss8298 He got stabbed in the back of the neck, that isn't "beating". Before that he and Balon Swann were standing together fighting off a dozen men by themselves.
Trant beat The First Sword of Braavos, who didn't have a sword, so no that doesn't count for alot.
@@joshuabowen6919 That first sword of Braavos beat severa guardsmen without using a sword so I say it does.
@@daboos6353 he didn't have a sword. It was quite easy for Trant to beat him, because he didn't have a sword and he was a competent swords man not just a regular foot soldier
Jaime Lannister, Kingsguard, kills King Aerys II Targaryen. Prince Rhaegar, the next in line, was killed by Robert Baratheon, and Barristan Selmy and Lewyn Martell failed to protect him. Arthur Dayne, the Sword of the Morning, and Gerold Hightower were at the Tower of Joy, and failed to defeat Eddard Stark and his men. Perhaps the most skilled swordsmen ever in the history of Westeros: Arthur Dayne, Barristan Selmy, and Jaime Lannister (with his right hand). Whatever Kingsguard was with Jaime Lannister and King Aerys II, failed to protect Princess Martell, Rhaenys, and Aegon against Tywin Lannister's forces. In one fell swoop, 3 generations of Kings died.
Sandor walked away during a battle. He sucked too.
Kingsguard started going downhill with Joffrey's reign. Tommen's is the dregs.
Darkstar would make the worst Kingsguard knight
Didn’t cover Robert strong me boy
Boros Blaunt as Lord Commander would be worse.
As bad as the Canon era Kingsguard are, I feel like you really can’t say any but Jaime, who cucked his own king, are any worse than Lusty Lucamore.
Most KG seem to take lovers and therefore a lot of them probably have bastards too, but Lucamore married multiple different women and sired legitimate children on them in secret.
Yeah I think you're right but that's kind of the point. The current kings guard are meant to show how much corruption and politics has ruined that institution as well as others.
I personally think that Ser Crispy Cole is the worst of the worst, and should replce any of the following in this list:
Ser Jaime
Ser Balon
Ser Loras
He definitely helped to bring about one of the worst civil wars in recent history, as well as stepping wayyyyyy out of line in his capacities as Kingsguard, Lord Commander... And other roles in the war.
To me he is pretty much on the same level as Rossart combined with Pycell... If they were kingsguard.
But love the video all the same
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Sir Lucamore "The Lusty" should have been on the list. Pretty high too, IMO
On paper Jaime is the worst kingsguard by a wide margin. It's not even close.