Comparison of Fire Extinguisher and Scuba Tank Bells
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- Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
- I have been asked several times about the difference in sounds between steel and aluminum scuba tanks as well as fire extinguishers when making bells. Hopefully this video answers some of those questions. Please feel free to visit my shop on Etsy or my website at www.psacustomcreations.com.
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I like how you found the low sound of a big bell in a much smaller one, easier to hang on a porch.
Very cool, never considered that scuba tanks and extinguishers could make such awesome sounds, good video!
Thanks for the informative and helpful video! Those steel ones sound nice.
excellent comparisons and explanations
Your statement about aluminum not ringing as well is correct. Aluminum is sometimes referred to as a 'dead' metal because it is quite resistant to ringing and resonance. One thing to be careful of is painting the finished bell- paint can entirely deaden the ringing. I'm not sure what paint is best because a bell hangs out in the weather and the sun/rain so the paint needs to be really durable yet thin and hard to avoid dampening the vibrations.
I have found out in casting aluminum bells you can mix zinc diecast to the molten aluminum, they will ring with a more sustaining ring. 1/3rd zinc to 3/4th cast aluminum
Thanks for the info.
I cast aluminum farm bells and they sound pretty good. If the aluminum cylinders were made of cast aluminum, or zinc mix , they would ring much better. Cast aluminum is more brittle because of the carbon added to the aluminum...
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How do you cut the designs into you bells and how much detail can you cut into them? The steel sounds most pleasant to my ear and seems to resonate for a longest time. I've seen your bells on ETSY and I'm also curious what you use to hang the clapper and wind catcher? My biggest concern is how long they last. My gong/bell will hang where it will be subject to a hard blowing wing. The commercial chimes I've tried just don't last. Also what sort of paint do you use or do you powder coat? Do you strip the original paint right down to bare metal or just go right over it. I'm concerned about longevity because once I get it up in the tree it's going to be there for a long long time. You say I can request any colors I want and I was hoping to get two smaller steel ones in different colors. Thanks, I checked out ETSY but not your website which I will do now. It probably answers all my questions.
+John H Send me an email at psacustomcreations@yahoo.com and I will be able to answer all your questions and we can discuss a custom order. If you want a design cut all the way through the sides of the bell it can be done using a plasma cutter. A decent amount of detail can be done that way. If you mean the engravings I do on some tanks, more detail can be accomplished that way. On some bells I strip the bell all the way down to base metal and then prime and paint, on some scuba tanks I just remove the paint and leave the galvanized coating that came from the factory.
Well that was fun.
Thanks for doing this comparison - very useful.
Have you tried to tune a steel cylinder to a particular tone, say, the note A?
+N .Tilev I have not tried to tune to a particular note. While I like the sounds of bells and chimes, I am not musically talented enough to always be able to tell the difference between all the notes. In addition, I have found that even though cylinders may look the same, minor variations in the manufacturing process have quite an impact on the sound of the bells.
@@psacustomcreations Hi! 😁 Interesting upload; I have always loved resonating bells, wind chimes, singing bowls, etc.
Just FYI: a free app called "Guitar Tuna" will allow you to easily tune whatever to a certain note/pitch... When hung together, the combination is so much better, - fuller when they are in harmony with one another.
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@@artistaloca4 Thanks for the heads up. I will check that out.
You could use an electronic tuner to find the notes without musical ear or training
I looked at your website. Very nice things -- I probably should have just bought one of yours. But I need a project to keep me out of trouble, so I hope you don't mind my asking a followup question. I have a five foot-tall steel cylinder. I cut off the bottom and it sounds nice. But the valve end is very unattractive so I'm thinking about cutting off the top as well, making it into a tube. Will this spoil the sound quality? Thanks.
I have never tried to cut the top and bottom off a tank and ended up with a tube so I do not know how it will sound. Now you have me wanting to try it.
I look forward to seeing what you come up with.
Nice comparison. Steel sounds far better to me. I liked the short and long scuba tanks and the co2 tank. How did you cut through the scuba tanks? How long did it take?
Thank you. I have a very large horizontal bandsaw I use to cut the cylinders
If you wanted to make a bell with a very deep, Big Ben-type of resonance, what kind of cylinder would you use? Thanks.
You would need a large cylinder like the kind used for compressed natural gas (CNG). Those cylinders are about 10 to 11 inches in diameter and have about 1/4" or more wall thickness. These cylinders are larger than a typical welding cylinder. I have a tank like that on my "Trifecta" bell. If this is still not deep enough, there are specialty CNG tanks that are even larger and up to 16 inches in diameter. I have some of those in my stockpile but haven't made anything with them yet.
Thanks.
Is the CO2 bell (4th one hanging from the left) steel? Seems to be from a 20lb cylinder.
Yes, a 20 pound steel CO2 tank
what caution should i take if i cut an oxygen cylinder with a grinder
Obviously the first thing is to open the valve and make sure there is no gas left. I then unscrew the valve from the cylinder. If you do not have a chain vise to hold the cylinder you can use a ratchet strap and strap it to a block of wood, a table, or even a truck tailgate. Put a large crescent wrench on the valve and use a cheater bar on it. That should take off the valve. If it doesn't come off, get a longer cheater bar.. Rarely have I had to hit the wrench doing it this way.
When you use the grinder, make sure you use safety equipment such as gloves, ear protection, a dust mask and a full face shield. Just using safety glasses may not be enough. I have had a piece of metal bounce off my cheek and into my eye. Make sure the sparks are not hitting anything and at least 30 feet from your car or truck.
Make sure you have the safety guard and extra handle on the grinder. If you took it off for some reason, put it back on before you begin. The grinder may grab the cylinder and pull out of your hands and cut you.
Good luck and thanks for watching and asking the question.
Hello. The yellow bell is made from a scuba or a gas cilinder?
Scuba tank
In my opinion you should pitch the aluminum tanks. The steel sounds nautical and beautiful.
V Gil Not sure what you mean by "pitch" them unless you are referring to their musical pitch.
Maybe V Gil means to tune each bell to a certain pitch, or "in tune' notes.
For example three like tanks each sawed to a perfect length to produce a perfect pitch note,, to produce a perfect in tune, chord when all three bells hit at the same time.
Or better yet to produce three perfect notes aka Triad ,, such as,, G B and D,, to chime together in perfect (G chord), which should be a perfect tune,, or chime in perfect harmony.
You could use many bells tune perfect as long as they are tuned to G B and D. Of different octaves.
Would probably sound better than three random notes that really don;t jive together,, or produce bells rang together but sound out of tune, or noise.
I understand. Throw the Al chimes away.
Have you tried baking an aluminum tank in an oven to lower the timbre?
I have not thought of that and am not sure if it would have any effect on the tank.
Ring the bells already!
Where would I find a carbon dioxide cylinder
Try to find places that test them
The aluminum does not sound good imho. Stay with steel. That gladiator helmet thing sounds nice.
I just stay away from the aluminum scuba tanks...takes too much to get sound...I use oxygen bottles for torches
The 20 lb CO2 tank sounds best.
Filmed with a potato.