Keep the Type-R vids coming! I am stationed in Tokyo and have a 96 DC2 Type-R in mint condition (less than 50k miles) that I plan to bring back with me to the states. I was already a subscriber and a fan before so having you go over everything with the Type-R is perfect!
I had a 97 left-over GS-R that I picked up in 98 with 400 miles on it. Probably one of the most fun cars I've ever had. Used to surprise a lot of Fox bodies back then.
I know that you can't just pull cars out of your pocket, but I'd love to see a video like this comparing a same-era standard Integra and Civic to show the differences among all four. Great video, Eric!
Owned a 1st gen ‘teg back in the 90s and the FD series CTR back in 2007….still love the 3rd gen ‘teg and its a car I’ve always wanted but never really had the chance to own down in my side of the globe….great video by the way…very detail…awesome explanations on the comparison between the two types…never realize how much the LSD could make such a huge difference to the way the car drives…look forward to more content from your channel…thank you..from one Eric to another🙂
You nailed a lot of good points in this video. The gen 2 and gen 3 integras do HUGE with upgraded rear swar bar, sway bar bushings, and new or stiffer trailing arm bushings. A flimsy rear sway bar is an easy way to make a FWD predictable and understeery, which is safe and what most people expect. Tightening up the rear end goes a LONGGGG way on these old cars.
One thing to note, Honda engines consume oil because the VTEC solenoid is activated by oil. More VTEC = more oil consumption. Love the video! -S2000 owner
Boosted Integra pretty much any high revving engine will consume it, there are ways to minimize it checkout the smoking tire podcast with Steve dinan, he goes a little into how to get more power and less oil consumption out of a e39 m5 engine while making 500+ Na
I already knew most the common knowledge on the differences. But i had no clue on the rear suspension differences and the brake being an accord system. Thanks yet again Eric for the information you provide us "honda boys" ha ha!!! Your channel has helped me personally for years with my Acura and Honda issues!!
Go drive your Type-R. You worked your butt off to get one, and waited 20+ years for it! Repair videos and tear down of it can wait, and I wouldn't blame you for it. Really great walkthrough on the differences between the Type-R and GS-R. I really wish Honda were still making the Integra, and even the Prelude. Those cars were pretty cool back in the days.
1992/1993 The GS-R was available in the 2nd gen Integra in 1992 and 1993. If you had an Aztec Green Pearl Integra in the second gen it was a GS-R. They also have the cool GS-R badge stock.
Great info on how Honda/Acura burns oil. I've done everything to seal up my 92 Civic and driving it 5 hrs per night/day I go through nearly qt of oil. Small leak at distributor, small leaks at oil pan, small leaks around cam, main seals are holding like a champ !! P.s. never stray from ngk spark plugs !!!
Awesome video! So many little details I didn't know about. The poor man's brake upgrade is fantastic: you use mini cooper rotors as they have 4x100 stud pattern, then get the calipers/pads off a V6 Accord/Odyssey like you said. AUDM '98 Integras have the same 1" brake master cylinder as the Type R so it works amazingly well and is cheap. Same can be done on a Civic but the Master cylinder needs to be upgraded too. I have a video of the installation on my channel for anyone interested.
While I'm here - the ITR rear swaybar upgrade on a dc2/dc4 makes a big difference. I got a dc2r rear swaybar, put some new bushings in and threw that on. It reduces body roll and understeer a lot. When doing this on a Civic or a dc2/dc4 you need to get a subframe reinforcemet (ASR/hardrace/whiteline etc). This is because the ITR came with a reinforced subframe from the factory but the other models didn't. If you don't get a rear subframe brace and you install an ITR swaybar you run the risk of literally tearing your subframe. Also got a video for all this on my channel
Fantastic video! Thanks for this in depth video comparison and nothing like ACTUALLY seeing the vehicles side by side rather than people only having 1 of them and imagining the differences. I know you daily drive them but they are and will be collectibles. Hope you do a full restore and keep them going indefinitely! Same with the Vigor! So good to see these cars in great hands.
I see those power charts and it makes me enjoy my GSR even more because i haven't had the opportunity of driving the real deal. That's why my future mods will be: LSD, suspension and brake upgrades, new clutch, some cams, manifold and tune. I'm looking for better bottom, mid torque as well as higher revs. Man, i can't wait! Also type R cluster is a must for any integra out there. 💯
I might have to agree with you on that and I'm not even a huge Honda Acura person..the handling..the power to weight..the reliability ..manual..looks good..very well rounded sports car
Great video! Im not sure if it was intended or not, but you have probably made the most comprehensive comparison video between the two cars. This video will probably be referenced for years.
The b series burning oil statement makes me feel better lol. My little b16a2 burned about 1 quart in single day of track use, (4 sessions, constant vtec and rpms from 5k to 8k etc) and no my motor does not leak a drop of oil. Resealed with all new oem seals/gaskets. I've been told the oil burning is quite normal, glad you said so yourself!
Great points about addressing rear suspension and accord brakes on civics and integras! That “OEM+” mentality is how I built my E34 525i. E36 M3 cams, E34 M5 Seay bars, E34 540 brakes, E31 850 lower control arms, etc.
Those rubber rear wheel arch trims shown @3:18 are what cause rust on Honda's, Acura's, Subaru's, etc. They trap dirt, moisture, and salt in the snowy states. Peel them back. You might be impressed at how much crap they hold.
I never understood why they have to stick out like that and with a gap. They should be tucked under the lip of the well. I mean that's how Hyundai does it and Hyundai is more budget than Honda.
High performance engines always burn a little oil. No stopping it, and lets face it, the GSR and type R motors are race car engines. You just don't get that kind of horsepower out of such a small displacement engine without making some compromises and having a little oil burn is one of them.
I know I'm a year late, but I love that you're using Sumitomo Ice Edges on the type r. I have heard nothing but good things about these tires from customers and techs at the tire shop I worked at here in Wyoming. Now I've set myself up for Eric to come in and say "Thanks, I hate them."
Great stuff. In 98 I had to choose between the Integra Type R and a Prelude Type SH. Went with the Prelude, and can't complain as I sold it about 10 years later with 160,000 mostly trouble-free miles on it. Wish I still had it.
A fine discerption of the differences between two of Acura's finest products. In 1997 Car & Driver reported that the main determinizing facture in the production of the type R's was that Honda sub contracted polishing the ports and 200/per year was the limit of the shop. C&R credited 16 of the 20 additional HP to the port polishing. I own a 1996 GSR with 144k miles - I bought it new in October of that year. The BF Goodrich G-force sport Com 2 tires I put on a year ago are EXCELLENT . When the stock coil-overs finely wore out, I learned that the GSR-spec was no longer available.I up-graded to Megan coil-overs which lowered my car 1" - now It corners better then ever !
Eric if you can get ahold of the JDM type r (98 spec) exhaust system including the headers, you'll notice a difference in low end power. The JDM headers do wonders!
The best Acura integra comparison video yet. Learned a lot about the twin integra, although I haven't driven the type r, I won't count out the gsr as a blast to drive. Thanks Eric, you did very good with this video.
Found online a walk thru adapting the type-r brakes (or cr-v/av6) front calipers, and mini cooper rotors (282mm non s) which with a little modification to the dust shield it made braking with the 4 lug spindle amazing now.
the Type-r is a homologation special car, wich could participate in its own race class in japan. The GSR is a luxury street version of the street race car the type-R. The type-R and GSR cant be compared. The type-R has a seam welded chassis wich provides 15% more stiffness then the GSR. You can put type-R parts on a GSR, but it will never make it a full type-R
Eric Cook's definitive Integra comparison. Definitive PERIOD Summary: The ITR's braking + suspension + LSD, when combined with a drop of horsepower (over the GSr) makes that horsepower significantly more efficient. Now, sell me that 1997 ITR Supplement Manual.
18:41 Thank god, My 2000 gs was making that noise and I thought I might have to replace the cylinder. I bought my first car (integra) last year from an old guy and now Im going to restore it and repaint it. So pumped.
Correction: the first Integra GSR, introduced in the 2nd generation "DA" body style, got a 1.7L B17 DOHC VTEC engine for the 1992 and 1993 model years. Those cars had a DB chassis code instead of DA. I believe the very first DOHC VTEC engine in Japan was released in the Civic Si-R hatchback as the earliest B16A engines, around 1989, just before the NSX came out.
Hey Eric. that picture you flashed of the shift knob. leather with red stitching part number with S30 in the middle. That is for a 5th gen Honda Prelude.
Fantastic video. Thanks for the detailed breakdown of these two models. Your mention of your own Honda roots brings back some good memories. Back in the 80's, a good friend and I both found ourselves working in the same city after attending engineering school together. Making decent money for the first time in our lives, we each decided to buy a new car. He ended up buying an Integra in 1986 - when Acura was a brand new company. The following year I bought a CRX Si. Both great cars.
Was worth watching till the end. My mind started to wander when Eric pulled out the calipers and compared sway bar girths. (the old 'mine is thicker and longer than yours') Would I sacrifice comfort over hp? NO. "With great power comes great responsibility, Peter." I think most "enthusiasts" lose their motivation when they meet the guardrail one too many times. Driving a lower hp car hard is way more fun than driving like granny in a car with a huge engine.
If you owned one (emphasize OWNED) it was probably stolen. These cars are theft magnets and if you didn't know this at the time, you definitely found out soon enough.
@@BlackWhiteBeast damn that's the last time you owned one? ... I left in 2004 then in 2007 bought a 2001 GSR but didn't last with it. Damaged the front end and sold it and didn't buy another Honda untill 2016. Went through a DA and a DC4. DA sold for the DC4 then the timing belt broke. Sold that and got a EJ1 that I began to build this time with the intention of keeping it. Welp, not more than a a few months later I made the mistake of parking the car outside my ladys apartment complex so we can run some errands and we ended up not swapping the SUV.. next morning it was gone. 😐 Bought the one I had now out of anger and necessity. Since I needed it for work.. bought another daily and now keep my EJ1 I have built now at my parents crib, with kill switches and parked almost in the backyard so if they want to get it towed it will wake everyone up. 😄
@@2_2_4_3 I had a 1990 eg DX sedan that was bone stock broken into 6 times. The 6th time the interior was completely gutted and left for dead. I also had a 1998 integra GSR that I bought brand new which was nearly stolen within 15 minutes of me being at the shopping mall back in 1998. I came out and they immediately fled in another Honda that they had. Once that happened I sold the car and never bought another Honda again. Good riddance because I've had countless wonderful cars over the years that were never messed with and I love my 2019 ZL1 Camaro along with some other cars I currently own. Experience is the ultimate teacher.
I totally agreed with you Eric we own 1997 Type R when it came out, we also had the 1992 GSR. What Honda made us do in Canada beside signing a waver, we had to get steel rim and winter tires, it was so good handling around corner, and the nose, yes i wish it had more bottom end torque. i also love the transmission the way the gear ratio close together, where roughly around 500 rpm different. The entire Type R you can toss around any corner, and the grip of the tires are so predictable and could be push very hard We did have so much fun, and know how you feel. Yes no Air for 1997, very hot in the summer even up here in London Ontario Canada. Every little bit was perfectly assembled.
I owned one back in 2006, and it wasn't in great condition. It was pretty beat on by the previous owner. The sparkplug was stripped inside the head. I wish I would have kept it and rebuilt the whole car.
The first GSR Integra was the DA body style, and in the U.S., it was 1993 only from what I remember. It used the oddball B17A, which was just a slightly bored out B16A. I was going to buy one back in the day, but after test driving several cars, I ended up buying a 1994 Civic hatchback with a JDM B18C with LSD transmission. The Civic felt a lot better than the GSR Integra. It was faster by a lot, felt tighter, and had many more newer parts from the engine swap. I still miss my Civic, even now, many years later. I loved that car. It Never left me stranded in the 10 years I owned it.
You also forgot to mention that on the Type R all the metal panels and chassis panels are seam welded for extra strength and rigidity. That's shit you normally only see on racecars.
@@justincase8037 yes you will read in a lot of places that it is seam welded, but I can assure you they are not. It's just a claim people found on the internet and have ran with it. The chassis were reinforced, but not from seam welding.
@Ryan Harrison Uh no they aren't, for one, seam welding on a production car meant for driving on streets would never pass DOT standards and is completely pointless on a chassis that has already been stiffened to the extreme from the factory with thicker metal in spots and reinforcement on the chassis overall with bars tying various parts of the suspension and chassis points, for two, I've helped on two full DC2 restorations to date now (And also one EK9 CTR) that have been completely stripped and never once have I nor the owners of said cars ever seen any evidence of seam welding before or during body work before paint, for third, My buddy BJ owns a factory bone stock USDM 2001 ITR and we pulled his interior out when he got his to see if his was 'seam welded' and his was not either, this is a myth started on the Internet years ago and complete bs, and for fourth, the wrecked jdm DC2 I pulled my B18C R motor out of was completely stripped interior wise, and again, I saw zero evidence of seam welding, while Honda did make some of the welds thicker in some spots which is evident, they did not seam weld the cars, hell they barely seam SEAL them at all period, anyone who's ever owned a Honda and tried to fix quarter panel on rust on one knows this alone, this is WHY they rust to begin with so bad in the quater panels, stop spreading false information.
Came across a four door Integra Type R this week, owned by a tech at the local Honda dealer. Before someone gets excited, yes they did because we are in New Zealand.
I had 5 Integras through the course of my life which included one usdm type r and one jdm type r and several gsr's. I still have 3 built typer r motors w less than 1000 miles sitting in my garage just collecting dust. I wish I could find another Integra shell to throw them into. If anyone is interested in buying any of the Integra motors I have or the many Integra parts I have, message me back :)
@@touringteg I have one more built b18 c5 left, I also have a b20 vtec setup and a ls vtech setup. I might also have a bare block type r as well some where in my garage. Email me at statusquoreject@gmail.com if you're interested.
Wow glad to see a side-by-side comparison of the GSR and Type R! You're really lucky to have both, and unmodded too! BTW just to clear some information, 89-92 Honda Integra were the first introduction of VTEC in a production car, not the NSX. NSX, however is the first introduction to VTEC in the US, as they didn't give the early 90s USDM Integras a VTEC motor until 92-93 with the rare as hell B17A1. Hopefully in the future you get your hands on one of those! One of the most forgotten about Integras out there!
@@kingkbh yeah man. Thats a big misconception i think alot of people have, mainly because of the notoriety of the EF9 and CRX incomparison to the 2nd gen Integras. B16A1s were first introduced in '89 as the first VTEC motor and it was introduced in the DA6 and DA8 Integra chassis (3dr hatch and 4dr sedan [in that order]) at the Honda Verno dealerships (if i remember correct). They are commonly swapped into CRXs and EFs though.
When I got my 8th gen Civic Si I was shocked how stiff the rear suspension is. Really makes the car rotate. Brakes are awesome and having an LSD is so fun.
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Dang no one has ever gone into this much detail. There are a lot more differences than I was aware of! I had a 96 GSR myself.
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If honda would make cars exactly like they did in the 90s I would go buy a new car!
They made the 91 Sentra In mexico up until a few years ago....should a bought like 5
@@silverpairaducks Umm, Sentra is Nissan.
Hell yes.
A this extra crap and no space I. The bay. 90s seems like they were mlre simple and easier to work on
And no one else would buy it. People want features.
Hey those crz dont look too bad
I believe both are important cars in the history of Acura. Keep them both.
Keep the Type-R vids coming! I am stationed in Tokyo and have a 96 DC2 Type-R in mint condition (less than 50k miles) that I plan to bring back with me to the states. I was already a subscriber and a fan before so having you go over everything with the Type-R is perfect!
With the marines?
Post some videos of the itr.
I never made it to japan in the usmc but i wish i had. Id live in junk yards
That's sick man!!
Fun fact the first years of the Integra Type R 95 to 96 rocks the same brakes as a regular Integra just a lug pattern of 4x114
I had a 97 left-over GS-R that I picked up in 98 with 400 miles on it. Probably one of the most fun cars I've ever had. Used to surprise a lot of Fox bodies back then.
I know that you can't just pull cars out of your pocket, but I'd love to see a video like this comparing a same-era standard Integra and Civic to show the differences among all four. Great video, Eric!
my wife has a completely stock 2000 GSR in Violet. I searched for 3 years to find it.
I had that car new for 10 years. Leather, sunroof, i didn’t know what I had till it finally got stolen.
@@eval7952 My wife bought one new in 2000 and it got stolen. That's why I searched so long for another one. They are really awesome cars.
SOCALDEVILDOG yeah,mine got stolen 3 times!
Since I had paid for it cash and had full coverage, the car paid for itself.
@@eval7952 I believe that!!!! Sorry your stuff got jacked. My wife replaced the original with a blue 350z touring so its not all bad.
SOCALDEVILDOG nice! I got an mk4 R32 with the pay out after the 3rd theft.
This is the clearest comparison of these two cars on the internet. Thanks Eric!
Look up Gene kim
Acura needs to bring fun back.
Yes, for sure. Affordable fun. It's hard to bring young people to your brand when your only fun car costs more than a house!
Owned a 1st gen ‘teg back in the 90s and the FD series CTR back in 2007….still love the 3rd gen ‘teg and its a car I’ve always wanted but never really had the chance to own down in my side of the globe….great video by the way…very detail…awesome explanations on the comparison between the two types…never realize how much the LSD could make such a huge difference to the way the car drives…look forward to more content from your channel…thank you..from one Eric to another🙂
Never stop what your doing. I'll never stop watching. And thank you for answering people with their questions! You always show respect to your fans.
You nailed a lot of good points in this video. The gen 2 and gen 3 integras do HUGE with upgraded rear swar bar, sway bar bushings, and new or stiffer trailing arm bushings. A flimsy rear sway bar is an easy way to make a FWD predictable and understeery, which is safe and what most people expect. Tightening up the rear end goes a LONGGGG way on these old cars.
Brilliant comprehensive review of both cars and their differences. I doubt you'll find a more informative video elsewhere. 👍
I drove a 94 GS-R for 12 years. Absolutely loved that car.
Loved how you used Type R audio at the end specifically for this video.
Eric, you are the best. I love the fact that you focus on Honda products. Very few guys doing that.
One thing to note, Honda engines consume oil because the VTEC solenoid is activated by oil. More VTEC = more oil consumption. Love the video!
-S2000 owner
I'm also an S2000 oner
So I have B20 non VTEC swap on mine and it still consumes oil any suggestion on why that is or is it like he said a b-series thing
Boosted Integra pretty much any high revving engine will consume it, there are ways to minimize it checkout the smoking tire podcast with Steve dinan, he goes a little into how to get more power and less oil consumption out of a e39 m5 engine while making 500+ Na
As a H22A 5th gen Prelude owner, I can attest to this.
I already knew most the common knowledge on the differences. But i had no clue on the rear suspension differences and the brake being an accord system. Thanks yet again Eric for the information you provide us "honda boys" ha ha!!! Your channel has helped me personally for years with my Acura and Honda issues!!
Go drive your Type-R. You worked your butt off to get one, and waited 20+ years for it! Repair videos and tear down of it can wait, and I wouldn't blame you for it.
Really great walkthrough on the differences between the Type-R and GS-R. I really wish Honda were still making the Integra, and even the Prelude. Those cars were pretty cool back in the days.
I'm learning so much more about my old car now, thank you! I'm glad you are happy with it!
Now i remember why i love EricTheCarGuy.
1992/1993 The GS-R was available in the 2nd gen Integra in 1992 and 1993. If you had an Aztec Green Pearl Integra in the second gen it was a GS-R. They also have the cool GS-R badge stock.
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GS-R also came in white and red for 92-93.
A comparison between the type R and the later RSX type S would be a cool video too Eric. Thanks for the excellent tutorial!
Honestly, I hated the RSX. Still do.
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Great info on how Honda/Acura burns oil. I've done everything to seal up my 92 Civic and driving it 5 hrs per night/day I go through nearly qt of oil. Small leak at distributor, small leaks at oil pan, small leaks around cam, main seals are holding like a champ !! P.s. never stray from ngk spark plugs !!!
Love these cars! Wanted one so badly back in the 90s you’re so lucky!
Awesome video! So many little details I didn't know about. The poor man's brake upgrade is fantastic: you use mini cooper rotors as they have 4x100 stud pattern, then get the calipers/pads off a V6 Accord/Odyssey like you said. AUDM '98 Integras have the same 1" brake master cylinder as the Type R so it works amazingly well and is cheap. Same can be done on a Civic but the Master cylinder needs to be upgraded too. I have a video of the installation on my channel for anyone interested.
While I'm here - the ITR rear swaybar upgrade on a dc2/dc4 makes a big difference. I got a dc2r rear swaybar, put some new bushings in and threw that on. It reduces body roll and understeer a lot. When doing this on a Civic or a dc2/dc4 you need to get a subframe reinforcemet (ASR/hardrace/whiteline etc). This is because the ITR came with a reinforced subframe from the factory but the other models didn't. If you don't get a rear subframe brace and you install an ITR swaybar you run the risk of literally tearing your subframe. Also got a video for all this on my channel
Like a kid in a candy store. Enjoy, Eric.
Fantastic video! Thanks for this in depth video comparison and nothing like ACTUALLY seeing the vehicles side by side rather than people only having 1 of them and imagining the differences.
I know you daily drive them but they are and will be collectibles. Hope you do a full restore and keep them going indefinitely! Same with the Vigor!
So good to see these cars in great hands.
Man, you have to do everything in your power to restore that thing!!!
I see those power charts and it makes me enjoy my GSR even more because i haven't had the opportunity of driving the real deal. That's why my future mods will be: LSD, suspension and brake upgrades, new clutch, some cams, manifold and tune. I'm looking for better bottom, mid torque as well as higher revs. Man, i can't wait!
Also type R cluster is a must for any integra out there. 💯
Probably still get taken to gapplebees by a crossover vehicle.
@@nickgraham8045 it's all about self enjoyment but true lol
@@nickgraham8045 lol The key is to not race anyone
95 DB7 OEM with 370,000 miles on cluster - 1 rebuild - 🥰 🙏 ETCG
the Integra Type R is, I think, the best front wheel drive car ever made
Look they are brilliant but the EK9 was awesome too
Nope, 5th gen civic.
Prelude not bad either
Nah, eg civic is a much better platform
I might have to agree with you on that and I'm not even a huge Honda Acura person..the handling..the power to weight..the reliability ..manual..looks good..very well rounded sports car
Nice 👍 loved the video Eric . Thank you much you made us Honda lovers happy with this awesome video . Stay healthy and safe brother. 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏.
Great video! Im not sure if it was intended or not, but you have probably made the most comprehensive comparison video between the two cars. This video will probably be referenced for years.
That red lighting was iconic in the Pontiacs. My 1995 Bonneville SSEi had that, along with a heads up display. Man I miss that heads up display.
I bought a red 95' GS-R back in 99'. It was one of the best days of my life.
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I just want someone to look at me the way Honda looked at the type r
You mean sell you on the streets for money???
@@highthai7 Yes, then drop me down by 15 mm and ride me hard like a dirty little slam pig
stevenreynolds40 Lmfao, you need help man 😂😂😂
The b series burning oil statement makes me feel better lol. My little b16a2 burned about 1 quart in single day of track use, (4 sessions, constant vtec and rpms from 5k to 8k etc) and no my motor does not leak a drop of oil. Resealed with all new oem seals/gaskets. I've been told the oil burning is quite normal, glad you said so yourself!
Just the video I was waiting for lol
Great points about addressing rear suspension and accord brakes on civics and integras! That “OEM+” mentality is how I built my E34 525i. E36 M3 cams, E34 M5 Seay bars, E34 540 brakes, E31 850 lower control arms, etc.
Those rubber rear wheel arch trims shown @3:18 are what cause rust on Honda's, Acura's, Subaru's, etc. They trap dirt, moisture, and salt in the snowy states. Peel them back. You might be impressed at how much crap they hold.
I never understood why they have to stick out like that and with a gap. They should be tucked under the lip of the well. I mean that's how Hyundai does it and Hyundai is more budget than Honda.
ETCG, great find on those cars. Any 90s kid knows what's up . Can't wait to see what you do with the ITR! They are skyrocketing in value..
When VTEC kicks in yo! 🤣 Love it
Adrenaline rush!! Lmao
Eric been around for ever on YT and he still has the best Honda related content to this day, another awesome video!
Both are awesome. The Type R is so rare, but it would be a waste to not drive it.
Great comparison. Super cool to see the two of them side by side and all of their differences. Enjoy the Type R, Eric
High performance engines always burn a little oil. No stopping it, and lets face it, the GSR and type R motors are race car engines. You just don't get that kind of horsepower out of such a small displacement engine without making some compromises and having a little oil burn is one of them.
F&S Garage it’s better to have oil get through seals and burn then having an over pressurized motor
@@xJDMWaRRi0Rx they are not race car engines , my friends dodge mini van is faster than these rice lawnmower cars! LMAO
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You are making no sense
Maybe... than* ?
Tazer Games oh good looking out bro
@@Mike_Greentea ok they are not race car engines that also beat some high performance cars 🤷🏾♂️ Shame lol
I know I'm a year late, but I love that you're using Sumitomo Ice Edges on the type r. I have heard nothing but good things about these tires from customers and techs at the tire shop I worked at here in Wyoming. Now I've set myself up for Eric to come in and say "Thanks, I hate them."
Great stuff. In 98 I had to choose between the Integra Type R and a Prelude Type SH. Went with the Prelude, and can't complain as I sold it about 10 years later with 160,000 mostly trouble-free miles on it. Wish I still had it.
A fine discerption of the differences between two of Acura's finest products. In 1997 Car & Driver reported that the main determinizing facture in the production of the type R's was that Honda sub contracted polishing the ports and 200/per year was the limit of the shop. C&R credited 16 of the 20 additional HP to the port polishing. I own a 1996 GSR with 144k miles - I bought it new in October of that year. The BF Goodrich G-force sport Com 2 tires I put on a year ago are EXCELLENT . When the stock coil-overs finely wore out, I learned that the GSR-spec was no longer available.I up-graded to Megan coil-overs which lowered my car 1" - now It corners better then ever !
for the exterior, one thing you did miss was that the ITR does not have side molding
This is an outstanding comparison video. Ive been a Honda guy for almost 20 years and learned some new things from this video. Excellent work!
It’s only a matter of time before GS-Rs go for a premium. Good thing I already have a clean one
i had a clean one a guy t boned me, it was legit january first 2020... it set the scene for the year
Matteo Wise damn sorry to hear that
No this will never happen lol
Oh they already are lol
You're back?!? Awesome.!! I love this gen integra. I had a 94 gsr loved that car.
Eric starts showing the leather interior of an old car. 90's porn music starts. I see what you did there...
Lol
The best informative video I've seen in a long time. Thankyou.
Nz we got the red bucket seats in the white cars looked 🔥
i’ve been following for years and years. i knew you had the gsr but didn’t know you had a type r! that’s awesome
Eric if you can get ahold of the JDM type r (98 spec) exhaust system including the headers, you'll notice a difference in low end power. The JDM headers do wonders!
The best Acura integra comparison video yet. Learned a lot about the twin integra, although I haven't driven the type r, I won't count out the gsr as a blast to drive. Thanks Eric, you did very good with this video.
Found online a walk thru adapting the type-r brakes (or cr-v/av6) front calipers, and mini cooper rotors (282mm non s) which with a little modification to the dust shield it made braking with the 4 lug spindle amazing now.
Can you also upgrade the rear calipers or just the front ones
Hey, Eric! Thanks for the breakdown of the details on these cars. Most other videos just deal with appearance and a drive demo. Love your channel!
I rather have a GSR its has more Luxury features i feel though the Type R is for more sport.
Agreed. I gotta have my moonroof.
the Type-r is a homologation special car, wich could participate in its own race class in japan. The GSR is a luxury street version of the street race car the type-R. The type-R and GSR cant be compared. The type-R has a seam welded chassis wich provides 15% more stiffness then the GSR. You can put type-R parts on a GSR, but it will never make it a full type-R
@@lexburen5932 cage and gut the gsr and make your own damn race car...
Great video Eric! Thank you from Canada! 🇨🇦👍🏻
Eric Cook's definitive Integra comparison. Definitive PERIOD
Summary: The ITR's braking + suspension + LSD, when combined with a drop of horsepower (over the GSr) makes that horsepower significantly more efficient.
Now, sell me that 1997 ITR Supplement Manual.
I want that manual so bad!
i still have my integra LS. It aint no GSR or Type R….but it is still an Integra. Clean, no rust. Alongside with my 2018 Civic Type R. Woooo🎉 !!
type R is as overhyped and overrated as bmw M. the differences are so minor it still just comes down to the driver-mod
Also the Type R does not have door side mouldings, all other integras do.
Dreilide RS modes also did not come with side moldings, unless installed by dealer
@@michael_dc4584 my rs came factory with side mouldings, but does not have a sunroof, both my 91 and 97 rs'.
Good catch!
popanollie1 then it had to be the other way around some RS models didn’t come with it because that’s what people use to make type r clones
I like the music showing the interior. Really sets the mood
18:41 Thank god, My 2000 gs was making that noise and I thought I might have to replace the cylinder.
I bought my first car (integra) last year from an old guy and now Im going to restore it and repaint it. So pumped.
Same on my civic ex lithium grease! Just didnt know where to put it lol
The legendary Type R. Thanks for the short Ed/Info on these two iconic Honda’s / Acura
These are beautiful toys Eric enjoy your cars!!!
Thank you for this detailed primer on my favorite car when I was in high school!
What malcontent would down vote this video??? Ahhh, Doug demuro fans. Nice job Eric. Thank you.
Awsome I rocked thies cars back in 1999,also had a em1 ,92 hatch with a gsr engine swapp used a chrome ecu ,later got a junk data ecu ,memories.
Correction: the first Integra GSR, introduced in the 2nd generation "DA" body style, got a 1.7L B17 DOHC VTEC engine for the 1992 and 1993 model years. Those cars had a DB chassis code instead of DA. I believe the very first DOHC VTEC engine in Japan was released in the Civic Si-R hatchback as the earliest B16A engines, around 1989, just before the NSX came out.
Correction. The first vtec available to the public was in the 1989 da6 xsi and rsi. Both came with a b16a.
Great video! Lots of information backed up with examples shown wherever possible, brilliant.
Two gems that need some TLC. So much rust everywhere.
ItsJustAlex shut up
They are both pretty clean considering the cars are in the rust belt
What a refreshing video. Thanks for upload. I like that you can hear it 'when the V-Tec kicks in, yo"
Hey Eric. that picture you flashed of the shift knob. leather with red stitching part number with S30 in the middle. That is for a 5th gen Honda Prelude.
Fantastic video. Thanks for the detailed breakdown of these two models. Your mention of your own Honda roots brings back some good memories. Back in the 80's, a good friend and I both found ourselves working in the same city after attending engineering school together. Making decent money for the first time in our lives, we each decided to buy a new car. He ended up buying an Integra in 1986 - when Acura was a brand new company. The following year I bought a CRX Si. Both great cars.
Was worth watching till the end. My mind started to wander when Eric pulled out the calipers and compared sway bar girths. (the old 'mine is thicker and longer than yours') Would I sacrifice comfort over hp? NO. "With great power comes great responsibility, Peter." I think most "enthusiasts" lose their motivation when they meet the guardrail one too many times. Driving a lower hp car hard is way more fun than driving like granny in a car with a huge engine.
This is what I’ve been waiting for love your content Eric💯
Dont forget, that "Type R" sticker gives it like 60whp
2 beautiful machines right there 😍 amazing video
If you owned a ITR in the 90s you where the GTR baller of the future.
If you owned one (emphasize OWNED) it was probably stolen. These cars are theft magnets and if you didn't know this at the time, you definitely found out soon enough.
@@BlackWhiteBeast Yea that's whats sad about the Honda community. It's been like that. Acura and Honda ranked #1 and #2 stolen cars for many years.
@@2_2_4_3 Leaving that community in 1999 was the best thing I ever did. No more issues.
@@BlackWhiteBeast damn that's the last time you owned one? ... I left in 2004 then in 2007 bought a 2001 GSR but didn't last with it. Damaged the front end and sold it and didn't buy another Honda untill 2016. Went through a DA and a DC4. DA sold for the DC4 then the timing belt broke. Sold that and got a EJ1 that I began to build this time with the intention of keeping it. Welp, not more than a a few months later I made the mistake of parking the car outside my ladys apartment complex so we can run some errands and we ended up not swapping the SUV.. next morning it was gone. 😐 Bought the one I had now out of anger and necessity. Since I needed it for work.. bought another daily and now keep my EJ1 I have built now at my parents crib, with kill switches and parked almost in the backyard so if they want to get it towed it will wake everyone up. 😄
@@2_2_4_3 I had a 1990 eg DX sedan that was bone stock broken into 6 times. The 6th time the interior was completely gutted and left for dead. I also had a 1998 integra GSR that I bought brand new which was nearly stolen within 15 minutes of me being at the shopping mall back in 1998. I came out and they immediately fled in another Honda that they had. Once that happened I sold the car and never bought another Honda again.
Good riddance because I've had countless wonderful cars over the years that were never messed with and I love my 2019 ZL1 Camaro along with some other cars I currently own. Experience is the ultimate teacher.
I totally agreed with you Eric
we own 1997 Type R when it came out, we also had the 1992 GSR.
What Honda made us do in Canada beside signing a waver, we had to get steel rim and winter tires, it was so good handling around corner, and the nose, yes i wish it had more bottom end torque.
i also love the transmission the way the gear ratio close together, where roughly around 500 rpm different.
The entire Type R you can toss around any corner, and the grip of the tires are so predictable and could be push very hard
We did have so much fun, and know how you feel. Yes no Air for 1997, very hot in the summer even up here in London Ontario Canada.
Every little bit was perfectly assembled.
Minor correction Eric, the 1992 Integra GS-R got VTEC with the rare B17 engine.
The 1989.5 Integra XSi was the first production Honda that featured the technology. Shortly after, Civics and CRXs received the same B16A engine.
I owned one back in 2006, and it wasn't in great condition. It was pretty beat on by the previous owner. The sparkplug was stripped inside the head. I wish I would have kept it and rebuilt the whole car.
@@98ek9 He's talking about in the US which (we) got lame versions (by comparison) of all those cars you mentioned
The first GSR Integra was the DA body style, and in the U.S., it was 1993 only from what I remember. It used the oddball B17A, which was just a slightly bored out B16A. I was going to buy one back in the day, but after test driving several cars, I ended up buying a 1994 Civic hatchback with a JDM B18C with LSD transmission. The Civic felt a lot better than the GSR Integra. It was faster by a lot, felt tighter, and had many more newer parts from the engine swap. I still miss my Civic, even now, many years later. I loved that car. It Never left me stranded in the 10 years I owned it.
The b17 is garbage
Great video, highlighting the differences
I change the dirty low oil on my b series swap every 2 months at 2000 miles 10w30 year round
Very informative video!
I just scored a genuine dark violet pearl 2000 gsr for $500 last week!
You also forgot to mention that on the Type R all the metal panels and chassis panels are seam welded for extra strength and rigidity. That's shit you normally only see on racecars.
I believe that is actually a myth.
@@justincase8037 yes you will read in a lot of places that it is seam welded, but I can assure you they are not. It's just a claim people found on the internet and have ran with it.
The chassis were reinforced, but not from seam welding.
@Ryan Harrison Uh no they aren't, for one, seam welding on a production car meant for driving on streets would never pass DOT standards and is completely pointless on a chassis that has already been stiffened to the extreme from the factory with thicker metal in spots and reinforcement on the chassis overall with bars tying various parts of the suspension and chassis points, for two, I've helped on two full DC2 restorations to date now (And also one EK9 CTR) that have been completely stripped and never once have I nor the owners of said cars ever seen any evidence of seam welding before or during body work before paint, for third, My buddy BJ owns a factory bone stock USDM 2001 ITR and we pulled his interior out when he got his to see if his was 'seam welded' and his was not either, this is a myth started on the Internet years ago and complete bs, and for fourth, the wrecked jdm DC2 I pulled my B18C R motor out of was completely stripped interior wise, and again, I saw zero evidence of seam welding, while Honda did make some of the welds thicker in some spots which is evident, they did not seam weld the cars, hell they barely seam SEAL them at all period, anyone who's ever owned a Honda and tried to fix quarter panel on rust on one knows this alone, this is WHY they rust to begin with so bad in the quater panels, stop spreading false information.
Came across a four door Integra Type R this week, owned by a tech at the local Honda dealer.
Before someone gets excited, yes they did because we are in New Zealand.
I thought about getting one but they are heavier than the two door version and ITR is largely about lightness.
I had 5 Integras through the course of my life which included one usdm type r and one jdm type r and several gsr's. I still have 3 built typer r motors w less than 1000 miles sitting in my garage just collecting dust. I wish I could find another Integra shell to throw them into. If anyone is interested in buying any of the Integra motors I have or the many Integra parts I have, message me back :)
Interested
Do you have three built B18C5?
@@Juice7531 sorry just saw your comment, email me at statusquoreject@gmail.com and we can exchange contact info
@@touringteg I have one more built b18 c5 left, I also have a b20 vtec setup and a ls vtech setup. I might also have a bare block type r as well some where in my garage. Email me at statusquoreject@gmail.com if you're interested.
Yooo, you still have some Teggy/ITR motors laying around?!
An incredible job of providing every detail you would want to know.
i would trade my new mustang gt premium for a clean phoenix yellow type r in a heartbeat. i'm weird
And then it would get jacked and you wouldn't have a car. Keep the Mustang.
no you ain't weird I got rid of my mustang gt 2013 for a acura rsx dc5 and I'm happy as a clam
Wow glad to see a side-by-side comparison of the GSR and Type R! You're really lucky to have both, and unmodded too!
BTW just to clear some information, 89-92 Honda Integra were the first introduction of VTEC in a production car, not the NSX. NSX, however is the first introduction to VTEC in the US, as they didn't give the early 90s USDM Integras a VTEC motor until 92-93 with the rare as hell B17A1.
Hopefully in the future you get your hands on one of those! One of the most forgotten about Integras out there!
Was about to make the same comment, actually thougt the CRX was the first to get the B16A, but yeah, looks like it was the Integra :)
@@kingkbh yeah man. Thats a big misconception i think alot of people have, mainly because of the notoriety of the EF9 and CRX incomparison to the 2nd gen Integras. B16A1s were first introduced in '89 as the first VTEC motor and it was introduced in the DA6 and DA8 Integra chassis (3dr hatch and 4dr sedan [in that order]) at the Honda Verno dealerships (if i remember correct). They are commonly swapped into CRXs and EFs though.
@@Alexmuchacho916 The came in the CRX just months after 👌
GSR was available in the US starting in 1992. I bought a new 1992.
You are correct. They are extremely hard to come by nowadays, and the motor itself is worth almost as much, if not more than, the car itself.
@@Alexmuchacho916 Wish I still had it!
When I got my 8th gen Civic Si I was shocked how stiff the rear suspension is. Really makes the car rotate. Brakes are awesome and having an LSD is so fun.
Love the 8th gen si..great car for the price especially used now days ..prefer them over the 9th gen.
Type errrrrrrrr
Fascinating! Thanks for sharing. I love that "show booth" music when presenting large shots.