The most powerful SBC I have tested! Mekotronics RK3588. 8K VIDEO.

[@srvuk]

I have been closely following the RK588 devices as they have come out and think that in the absence of the AMLogic S908X SOC, essentially being stop gapped with the A311D2, as seen on the Vim4, this SOC is going to really set the cat amongst the pigeons and when it gets to gaming handhelds, could be quite the winner in the lower/middle end of the market. The one thing that could hold it back is pricing. Some of these early devices are getting into Intel/AMD mini pc territory, where the versatility of x86 will often be more preferable. As things stand, the Radxa Rock 5 board seems to offer the best value, although not actually released yet, so Mekotronics may well have some stiff competition. I was glad to see you test Kodi and considering that it will not be optimised for this SOC at all yet, the playback looked impressive for what was selected. The jump from RK3399 to this is giant and could be a huge seller. The biggest surprise with this is that out of the box it seems to do everything very well, which is almost unheard of in the AMLogic/Rockchip/Allwinner sphere of products. Linux is unlikely to get native GPU support because w are dealing with a Mali GPU, who do not tend to release open source drivers, so the panfrost development would have to be the way forward. Some boards will come with the ability to add an NVME SSD. My next purchase is definitely going to have an RK3588. It is just what form it will be that has yet to be decided. Going back to a Pi after using this must feel such a backward step. Mekotronics should add standard pricing to their site so everybody can know what they can get for their money.

[@leepspvideo]

Loads of great information. You really have been studying sbc’s. 👍🏻👍🏻

[@MarkDavidMcCoskey]

My interest in Android as a Desktop has been growing. With more powerful ARM SBC's becoming available, I think it is just a matter of time before this becomes the default choice for the majority, especially since so many already use Android on their phone.

[@earx23]

RK3588 is the best SBC/SOM SoC at the moment it seems!

[@Harmonic_Glow]

Dunno the LX2160A seems like it has some beefy performance and you can use an amd GPU

[@auto117666]

Ha! I was just looking at buying something with the RK3588 chip. I was looking at preordering the ROCK5 Model B from Ameridroid, but this looks promising as well.

[@auto117666]

After some review, I went with the ROCK5 since the $50 coupon (that you have to purchase for $5), lowered the cost down to about $130 total. It is still on preorder so it will ship hopefully soon...
It was somewhat hard to compare costs since the Mekotronics model reviewed includes a case, a power supply, a remote control, etc... Most of that I do not need.

[@LivingLinux]

When you send Mekotronics an email, they can send you a link for Debian and other images. You will need to connect it to a Windows PC to write the image. I even managed to almost brick the board, but there is even a rescue procedure.

[@leepspvideo]

Thanks, they said they were working on GPU acceleration for Debian and Ubuntu. 👍🏼

[@LivingLinux]

@@leepspvideo The Debian image I have now is still work in progress. Perhaps they want a more polished image for you as a reviewer. You can also look at the YT channel of Michael Wang. I think he is one of the employees.

[@willgilliam9053]

@@leepspvideo hope board isnt an antique when they get it done

[@mridontclickbaitftw4366]

@@leepspvideo there is no GPU acceleration for ubuntu on the rk3588??? I thought that was the main point of this chip!!

[@jakenigel7871]

Does the remote control the comes with the Box turn the box off and on.

[@boringsoftware2093]

thanks for the excellent review, very interesting SoC

[@jonathanharris2656]

I have a Beelink GT King and I'm happy with what I have.

[@bobcrocky]

I ordered the same board as you use, you are allowed to purchase 1 sample board… Waiting for it to be sent now 😉

[@bobcrocky]

It’s been sent, should be here about Wed 😉

[@bobcrocky]

It has left Botany and Customs Sydney… Down to Melbourne 😉

[@SchoolforHackers]

Hmm. I’d like to see your impressions too. Might be time to dust off the channel ;)

[@PC-FREEDOM]

I am doing a RUclips presentation on Linux, Android and single board computers in Japan.
I wanted to introduce a game emulator in my review of the R58 mini PC, but as I didn't have the BIOS ready, I would like to use some of your excellent videos.

[@leepspvideo]

As long as you mention my channel I am happy for you to show some of my video in your presentation

[@PC-FREEDOM]

@@leepspvideo Thank you! Very helpful!
I always look forward to watching your videos!

[@foobarbarfoo2377]

Very good. Could you test performance for a M.2 drive / SATA drive / M.2 drive + SATA drive together? What about bandwidth of the USB 3 ports in real life?

[@cyberpunk6812]

What version m. 2 nvme slot? It is 2280? What about pcie version?

[@williamhart4896]

Makes me really tempted by there board up on crowd supply 269 USD gets you a lot

[@dreamcat4]

interesting device. personally i always wonder with these chinese soc arm apus what is the ground truth situation in regards to upstream kernel contributions to support that chip. because most of the time we see the company maintaining a seperate fork of the kernel (for example like odroid, where typically its kerne forks are all being published up on github). this then has to be maintained ad infinitum due to gpl license incompatibility, or whatever other reasons not all of their kernel patchsets are not get upstreamed? at least i would like to know more about this. because an ongoing kernel support is necessary for other features in linux, for example other types of features which are not specific to the soc itself. but which are required to run specific softwares
for the android remote (with air mouse)... i recommend to try out the pepper jobs w10 gyro. unfortunately they have not updated this remote for a very long time. they said on their forum they are working on a 2nd version. it just does not appear yet? the thing is the original 1st w10 gyro remote (despite being quite good in many respects)... it still has a couple of drawbacks that needs to be improved upon.

[@eliotcole]

Oooh, test vids ... noooice! 😉

[@rockykhan6338]

lots of buzz for this chipset and there is surely reasons behind it its really powerful everyone is praising it

[@snax_4820]

Price?

[@leepspvideo]

Toms hardware mentioned $169 for the smaller board in this article.
www.tomshardware.com/uk/news/raspberry-pi-alternative-mekotronics-r58-revealed

[@richardahlquist5839]

Have any of you tried HDMI video capture? 1080p 60fps?

[@leepspvideo]

I tried capturing in on of my Mekotronics videos not sure if I mentioned the resolution
In this playlist
ruclips.net/p/PLMJAjiTgBtFn1PN_DZA1SEe6qzGUjHOn0

[@touhami_dz6458]

can i run 4k60fps youtube videos but on the browser ? i assume it will drop frames

[@jediknight2350]

defo want one be good if you can install full android or other os,s

[@GustavoMsTrashCan]

How this performs with wine? I'd love to see another video where you run Crysis on this little thing.

[@monkapie2594]

there are no panfrost mesa drivers or mainline kernel support for this device yet,we are running mali vendor blob's right now on a rockchip kernel that means we only have opengl-es on linux so box86/64 with wine will not work,it will take a lot of time until rk3588 get support on mainline

[@eliotcole]

I've been putting off buying my one on Ameridroid because I'm unemployed ... but should I jump on it now?

[@Falk4J]

It would be great to get Google ChromeOS to work on this device.

[@luismiguel-jc2bd]

What do you think about the H96 Max V58 in comparation with this model?

[@leepspvideo]

Hard to say without trying it. The RK3588 is a great cpu.
It doesn’t mention compatibility with other operating systems like Ubuntu or Debian

[@gabriels.huertar9168]

Any idea what’s the limit capacity storage for the M.2 on this R58X?

[@leepspvideo]

I don’t know. If it’s not listed on the info page try emailing mekotronics

[@cyberpunk6812]

Bro, can you test how much max write / read speed on m.2 nvme slot? Can you use m.2 nvme 1 TB (2280)?

[@leepspvideo]

I can’t at the moment I’m using my nvme with something else.
Try contacting Mekotronics
www.mekotronics.com/h-col-102.html

[@cyberpunk6812]

@@leepspvideo its m.2 nvme pcie slot or m.2 sata slot?

[@leepspvideo]

@@cyberpunk6812 Emmc5.1, SDIO3.0, M.2 PCIE 3.0, SATA 3.0 7pin*2
Full specs here
www.mekotronics.com/h-pd-54.html#_pp=104_370

[@martinjbernart4699]

Video Chanel NicoD's SBC showt a RK58X PRO. Do you no this one?

[@leepspvideo]

Yes, I have been sent one. I mentioned it in a community post.
I have done part of a video.

[@martinjbernart4699]

Looking forward to seeing the video. (As always).

[@gorek7987]

Temperature range minus 40 to plus 80 wow. Can be use in hard environment.

[@jhyog]

The cpu of my r58x peaks 85 celsius...
ruclips.net/video/pIQNkRGB3b8/видео.html

[@aboothahiru6354]

what about mainline linux kernel support for rk3588 soc?

[@leepspvideo]

No, 5.10 at the moment. Hopefully in the future as there are so many devices

[@gohpoihua5433]

Hi, I am interested in this great android TV alternatives, having search high and low for better nVidia Shield alternative, can I know where can I purchase 1 of this? Thank you in advance.

[@leepspvideo]

mekotronics.en.made-in-china.com

[@GrandMasterLynx]

Would a fan be better to use then a heat sink? If yes how do I go about adding a fan

[@leepspvideo]

I found the heatsink to be very effective. I also really like silent cooling.

[@GrandMasterLynx]

@@leepspvideo Sounds good thanks for the info

[@H-W]

Faster than a light

[@jakenigel7871]

Does the remote that comes with the Box turn it off and on. I believe it's 2.4 wireless and not infrared.

[@leepspvideo]

I haven’t tried to power it off with the remote. I usually use a controller or mouse/ keyboard. It’s not infra red.

[@jakenigel7871]

That's what I was wondering about is if you can turn the box on with the remote because it doesn't have infrared.

[@jhyog]

@@jakenigel7871 it's only possible to wake from standby mode with the remote. To power it back on you'll have to unplug/plug the ac.

[@danilos7195]

Hi. Can I watch Netflix in dolby vision and dolby atmos with these ?

[@leepspvideo]

I’m not sure

[@jhyog]

No Netflix support due to lack of widevine

[@josegallegos6602]

Can a Mekotronics pc run Batocera Linux?

[@leepspvideo]

I haven’t seen a version ported.
This will work and perform better on RK3588
Daijishō emulator front end. Orange Pi 5.
ruclips.net/video/dkftgOtAi88/видео.html

[@hcjkruse]

Can this realistically be run from a battery pack?

[@leepspvideo]

Its 12V 3A.
Yes it can, but it will use 36W. A Pi 4 uses 18W so half.

[@michim162]

Looks nice but what I miss is the price.

[@AndrewTSq]

249 USD from my understanding. So to no interest for me at that price.

[@LivingLinux]

@@AndrewTSq They also have the R58 (without the X) and it starts at $189.

[@another3997]

@@LivingLinux I'm a big fan of ARM CPUs, but unfortunately, unless you have a specific need for a brand new ARM powered device, this is too close to low end x86 prices. At this level, x86 definitely has more grunt, not to mention better graphics support in Linux and Windows. ARM devices certainly win in terms of power consumption, but that's not so much of an issue in a mains powered device (or larger form factor devices with big batteries, as with most laptops).

[@LivingLinux]

@@another3997 ARM has decent graphics support in Android and things are improving in Linux. For me it's not just what is the most cost effective now, but also where I want to be in the future. I don't mind spending a bit more and helping the community to get the most out of ARM. But I'm also looking at RISC-V.

[@ByteBanditBob]

What launcher did you use there?

[@leepspvideo]

Win 11 Launcher
play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.real.launcher.wp.ten
This is also a good desktop for android
Dex on a Pi 400…. Sort of.
ruclips.net/video/HkMB3NXMDBs/видео.html

[@ByteBanditBob]

@@leepspvideo thanks!

[@mando7558]

Ha Leeps i saw your your reflection on the screen

[@mando7558]

I really do like your content and learned a lot from you. Keep up the good work!!!

[@Martin-ot7xj]

How to order that SBC ? i went to their website but I couldn't order it. thnx

[@leepspvideo]

mekotronics.en.made-in-china.com

[@Martin-ot7xj]

@@leepspvideo can we buy one of those and make it as a router? thnx

[@leepspvideo]

@@Martin-ot7xj not easily

[@shaunheatley9892]

Can this be used as a Plex media server?
Cheers

[@leepspvideo]

This should work fine
play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.plexapp.mediaserver.smb&gl=GB

[@Maxtraxv3]

so can it do H256 encoding?

[@leepspvideo]

From the website
Video Decoder
* Real-time video decoder of MPEG-1, MPEG-2, MPEG-4, H.263, H.264, H.265, VC-1, VP9, VP8, MVC, AV1
* MMU Embedded
* Multi-channel decoder in parallel for less resolution
* H.264 AVC/MVC Main10 L6.0 : 8K@30fps (7680x4320)
* VP9 Profile0/2 L6.1 : 8K@60fps (7680x4320)
* H.265 HEVC/MVC Main10 L6.1 : 8K@60fps (7680x4320)
* AVS2 Profile0/2 L10.2.6 : 8K@60fps (7680x4320)
* AV1 Main Profile 8/10bit L5.3 : 4K@60fps (3840x2160)
* MPEG-2 up to MP: 1080p@60fps (1920x1088)
* MPEG-1 up to MP: 1080p@60fps (1920x1088)
* VC-1 up to AP level 3: 1080p@60fps (1920x1088)
* VP8 version2 : 1080p@60fps (1920x1088)
Video Encoder
* Real-time H.265/H.264 video encoding
* Support up to 8K@30fps
* Multi-channel encoder in parallel for less resolution

[@another3997]

It usually makes far more sense to look on the product website, rather than ask in the RUclips comments section.

[@shanefrench3447]

Can you send me a link how much i want to buy one right now

[@leepspvideo]

You can contact them here
www.mekotronics.com/h-pd-54.html#_pp=104_370

[@shanefrench3447]

Such a weird way to buy from china will they be on Amazon or ebay when is the official release date also is the 16ram version available yet

[@leepspvideo]

@@shanefrench3447 I’m not sure.

[@jamesbucsis6296]

How much

[@leepspvideo]

Link to the mekotronics site in the description

[@TheGrinderd1]

Be aware that this chip does not support hardware HEVC streaming

[@leepspvideo]

It’s listed in the docs
www.cnx-software.com/pdf/Rockchip%C2%A0RK3588%C2%A0Datasheet%C2%A0V0.1-20210727.pdf

[@bjoernschumacher5852]

I have question:
1) Prize?
2) what is this windows like launcher you use?
observation: could be a good gamecapture and streaming computer maybe. I'm impressed!

[@leepspvideo]

I don’t do competitions on RUclips. I don’t want to break any rules
I preferred this interface for Android
Dex on a Pi 400…. Sort of.
ruclips.net/video/HkMB3NXMDBs/видео.html

[@LivingLinux]

I guess you want to know the price. $249 (without shipping/taxes) for the base model (4GB mem, 32GB storage). When you don't need the second ethernet port and internal m2 slot, you can also go for the R58 for $170 (without shipping/taxes) and that one has an external SATA connector and IR port.

[@leepspvideo]

@@LivingLinux 🤣 I guess it was price

[@abinaslimbu3057]

Computer
Mobile anio
Tablet
Laptop
Wirelessly
Docking station aino

[@abinaslimbu3057]

Video game
Concle

[@Phil-D83]

Too bad the raspberry pi foundation wont use rocketchip chips - for political reasons.

[@pengwan703]

不要命了？！

[@dogriverbrewing]

Its GARBAGE. HDMI input does not support most inputs including Playstation. Do not buy

[@keithmiller9665]

No price = No interest.

[@AndrewTSq]

a google of the unit told me $249,

[@another3997]

Is it really beyond your capabilities to have a look on the web for current prices? Prices frequently fluctuate, and they vary from region to region anyway. 🙄

[@LivingLinux]

You can buy it for $210 (excluding shipping/taxes) at made-in-china webshop. I don't put the URL here, as a URL can trigger the YT spam filter.

[@AndrewTSq]

@@LivingLinux I still think its too expensive for what you get even at $210. I am waiting for the next gen Nvidia Jetson Nano instead.

[@LivingLinux]

@@AndrewTSq I think the Jetson Nano is not aimed at the media and Android market. When Nvidia will release it with only A5X cores, you really are dependent on the CUDA cores and drivers (you can forget about mainline Linux support) for good performance. The Mekotronics has 4 A76 and 4 A55 cores, a HDMI In port and comes standard in an enclosure. You can also opt for the R58, that drops the m2 slot and the second ethernet port at $170.

[@jcpdcanaljuegos3970]

Hello look firefly RK 3588 639k in antutu

[@monkapie2594]

howdy lee please check your discord i have some stuff for your mekotronics board :) ,greetings monka and have a nice day

[@leepspvideo]

Thanks. 👍🏻👍🏻