Now only if there was some truth to ETA. Pi destroyer? Pi isn't about hardware. It's about community and support both long term. Something the thing in this video does not have.
As more of these 4K capable devices pop up, could you add Moonlight testing to your methods? The app itself opens pretty much on any device, but the decoding and networking performances are what dictate the experience. Seems like a perfect addition to what you're currently doing'
I'm curious about this as well. I'd like to see 4k 120hz support confirmation as well. This device supports hdmi 2.1 and 8k 60hz, but doesn't explicitly state whether or not 4k 120hz is supported.
If he did that then most of his recent vids would get only a few hundred views. Sure its blows the pi away...but so does the price. 223 dollars for 8 gb model.
Whoaaa, that Android Box looks amazing! Can you test some indie games with the Skyline emulator? I'd really want to know if it can handle some switch emulation.
Would be cool to check out the brandnew DosBoxPure Core Windows98, running in RetroArch. It also includes the Voodoo Graphics 3D Acceleration Card. Unreal was struggling on XBox Series X (tested by DF). And would be cool to see if Diablo II could run. Will be a whole lot of thinkering/fiddeling though…. But that’s the fun!
Wondering if this is a good replacement to my Nvidia shield freezing up occasionally. Curious how the HDMI in and outs would look and work... I have a tv/projector setup and switching HDMI inputs with this can save the hassle of another remote.
I would absolutely love to see this chip in a portable handheld gaming device running either Android or a variant of Linux, or even possibly a dual boot set up.
I know Google services run on the R58X, question is does it support Netflix, Disney and all the other streaming media? I'm in the market for a Nvidia Shield and don't want to buy old tech, where I could better for similar money.
Even though this machine is what I'm looking, I'm still waiting on the "ROCK5 Model B." I plan on hosting a Resident Evil Outbreak server with it for friends of mine and have a friend already working on updating the server software to not need a VM to launch it. It hits the right spot in specs: 8-Core RK3588 chip, PCIe 3.0 NVMe for a 2230 M.2 (for the files itself to run fast), 2.5Gb Ethernet with PoE support, 64GB eMMC for the OS, 16GB of LPDDR4X, 2 full size HDMI 2.1 ports for output, Sub-$200, And most importantly of all, it fits in your pocket.
For this kind of money I'll just try to build a decent PC so I can even play some PC games on it, not just emulation. This is nice device, it's just isn't worth it. Android boxes are still just good for media consumption with lower specs and price.
ETAPrime can you please list the names of the games you are showing in the videos. There are always ones you show that I’d like to play but I don’t know the names of the games. Love your videos & watch them everyday.
Great video! For clarifying somethings Snapdragon 855 can get 800 points at single core and 2962 at multi core. GPU Wild life about 4700 points at 850mhz with V0631 drivers. Snapdragon 865 can get 930 single and up to 3400 multi. 7400 points at 1050mhz with optimized kernel drivers in wild life. You could do a new video if some devs make a optimized rom and kernel for this device. That's powerful device but a old Xiomi Mi 9 could beat it in both sides. Again great job 😎
But how safe is the website? Looks very unprofessional and not at all trustworthy. To whoever is reading this who has ordered from them before, how did the sale go?
10 to 1 he puts Steam OS on this … 😆😂😂😂🤣. He has been putting it on everything lately. All joking aside, great video as always. Expect nothing but quality like every other video you do. Thanks for your hard work!!
I would love to see KDE BIGSCREEN formerly KDE TV in action on that box once the GPU drivers are fixed. And as it is not usual yet a review comparing it with Android TV, WebOS, Tizen, and other TV OSs, in particular how well the remote works with video applications as Netflix and RUclips. Thanks in advance.
Not feeling it for $200+ even if it is marginally better than the Shield. Shield is horribly obsolete by technical standards for today, was a great piece of hardware new, but the past 7 years has really caught up to it, and while I own one, and I do like it, it's outdated and in horrible need of a modern refresh. Beating something with a CPU from 7 years ago, isn't all that impressive, while costing more at that. Shield had the Pro update, but it wasn't much of an update, more so they shifted to a more modern process node, performance wasn't noticeable.
I have a question, and kind of a request: Would it be possible to see if you can do the faster speeds without dropping frames? Even if you had to drop it down to 1440p to get 2x speed that would be extremely useful to know.
I'd love to see a video comparing some of these newer Android Boxes to NVidia Shield. Mine's starting to act wonky and I've been wanting to upgrade, but NVidia still hasn't made any effort to put out anything new...
@@TheChrimboEffect Picking the best is literally why I made the post... A comparison video would reveal if this could be good enough to replace the Shield (specifically for me, in terms of codec support, Atmos, Dolby Vision, etc)
For the price suggested in some reviews of 250~300 dollar for this version it offers too little extra compared to the shield and is way to expensive compared to the pi4(00). Not a killer at this expensives prices yet.
@@bzuidgeest The video is fine the Title of it is click bait at its worst , of course it will destroy a Pi at how multiples the cost of one? Shameful youtube algorithm attempt at maniplulation, yes the chip is good as many other channels have already posted, driver maturity and community support are what will give this new chipset some credability in my eyes, like comment and subscribe 😝
Great..the best way on a arcade system (if we can have 640x480p). Also,I m a noob with these tiny things outside raspberry,can I add a ssd inside? the emmc just with android apk and roms on ssd. Now,I use a classic pc hyperspin on my arcade,a shield and beeling gt on tv.
Are there now any Android TV images available? I'm interested in upgrading from my Shield TV Pro but I cast to it all the time so I can't use standard Android.
Can anyone help with some of the games of listed in the video that didn’t list the names. One was the Tony Hawk game on PSP, the Simpsons game on GameCube, the shooter on PS2 & the Dragon Ball game on PS2. I’d like to check them out but it didn’t list the name of those games. Thanks for your help.
Has anyone used OBS Studio with Ubuntu and and ARM board? I know it can run 90 percent of all retro games but I'm trying to Livestream my speedruns on twitch
Hi,Prime. I am looking forward to build a music steamer with some audiophile OS such as picoreplayer and volumio etc. Could you mind to include the compatibility of Arm SBC for these two OS in the future? Thank you so much.
@@LivingLinux If you are the seller then see above. You loose all attention from buyers without these two key elements. I'm not buying wholesale so tracking down someone over the globe is not something I'll ever do.
I'd love to know if this is capable of running Citra and 3DS games I'm still yet to find a convincing small format (low cost) device like this that can comfortably run 3ds with upres.
I really want to see one of these RK3588 SOC's on DDR5 memory, Rockchip claims it's supported on their site and it would help with performance all round. Anybody seen any in the wild yet?
Hi, can this device run blender with linux operating system? You know, raspberry pi4 can run blender 2.79 version, would you be able to test it on this device?
it's probably gonna be a while before the 3D hardware accel. is working on Linux :( - but this little machine is GREAT for the PRICE!!!! Even the larger version is a great deal too! But I'm totally in agreement with the m.2 being needed (for me personally) - But I'll be picking one fo these up once they get that hardware accel going on Debian :)
Yet hardware acceleration is working on the pi. This thing most likely never gets acceleration because the manufacturers don't care. Just another hype box for the spec blind crowd. So much for pi destroyer.
You need a community and long term support and an os that is complete and fully working. And documentation and support forums and and and. Pi isn't about hardware. This thing will be gone in a week, replaced by something else while the pi will still be going strong. Destroyer this thing is not
Like the ASRock Industrial video, I would be delighted to order this device and even bulk purchase to sell products powered by this, but it's not publicly available. It's frustrating to see that the tech is out there at a good price but restricted to industry titans.
I got an ASRockInd 4x4Box 4800U from NewEgg a while back, overestimated my soldering abilities and ruined the type-A USB3 port trying to replace it with a double port like the barebones board version has (the case needs some modification to fit it). Asked the local distributor if they'd sell me the barebones board and they never replied :D Funnily enough they were a supplier for my employer but I never bothered to try again from my work email. It really is a shame these things aren't available retail.
@@Birdulon I don't even mind the lack of support when it comes to the hobbyist side of things, but I haven't found a way to get anything since I'm not a large corporate customer. Sorry you had to go through that - it's always a risk when you don't have reliable support. The problem is that I need a test board to design a product before I sell it - then once I have a viable product, I can advertise and sell, and order in bulk since I know I can actually handle the volume. I'm sure more advanced enthusiasts have established relationships in Shenzhen and know how to handle it, but unfortunately I'm not in that camp. I love Arduino and Raspberry Pi for their attitudes but their chips just aren't powerful enough for my interests. I try to excuse just about everything by chalking it up to the pandemic and resulting supply shortages, but I have a hard time believing it when I see companies riding the same old Rockchip train while two years ago I had a smartwatch with a far more powerful MediaTek chip for the same price. I wish I knew more, but the argument that certain stocks of chips are abundant and therefore cheaper just hasn't proven true in my experience. Sure, the latest chipsets are in shorter supply, but current issues don't justify the continuing flood of RK3326 retro devices and the bizarre disconnect between less powerful Qualcomm SBCs selling for basically the same price as x86 boards that are far more capable. Price is crucial as a smaller player, even when making highly specialized devices. The current market simply doesn't allow for small-scale production. As a customer, I wouldn't even want to pay the retail price of the board itself, let alone the base cost of production and materials that end up in the final product. I'm lucky I don't rely on this for income, and feel awful for those that do.
It seem more and more a tactic to first send them to the reviewers with no price stated yet creating a hype, but with a lot of disappointment when the price gets known. For 250-300 dollar you could look for a midrange mobile more powerfull than is.
@@erikkarsies4851 I bought the R58X for $250 back in early April. So it's not that they started with hyping, before announcing the price. You can check it on my channel. Mekotronics is looking at distributors to handle the sales. It looks like more companies are adding HDMI In (Lenovo Yoga Tab 13, VIM 4, Rock 5), something I haven't seen with mobiles.
Are you going to do a video with a linux OS? I would be interested in seeing how well it does with that as that is one of the reasons I would buy this product.
Save yourselve the money and buy a refurbished HP prodesk 600 or something like that. Can be had for a third of the price if you look around. And those run Linux fine and are supported like any other x86 machine. Unlike this box which the manufacturer forgets about tomorrow because they have something new to sell you.
Hp prodesk 600 or the like. Can be had for a third of the price and a core i5 model wil do something as old as PS2 and it runs windows to so you can use it as a daily driver.
@@LivingLinux this thing is not a pi killer, it has no community, no support long term, the pi will still be there when this thing has gone the way of the dodo. Pi is not about hardware.
@@bzuidgeest According to leepspvideo they are working on (U)EFI support. When they can pull that off, you can probably run any ARM distro with (U)EFI support. That's how I run Ubuntu, Fedora, Alma, etc. on a Phytium D2000. So it might have longer legs than you can imagine. Just because the Pi community is big now, doesn't mean that they can postpone the Pi5 for a long time.
There's nothing better than one of ETA's videos in the morning and a cup of coffee
agreed
Indeed
The most legit real life comment...everyday, the mans voice belongs on any instructional video lol
Now only if there was some truth to ETA. Pi destroyer? Pi isn't about hardware. It's about community and support both long term. Something the thing in this video does not have.
This.
As more of these 4K capable devices pop up, could you add Moonlight testing to your methods?
The app itself opens pretty much on any device, but the decoding and networking performances are what dictate the experience. Seems like a perfect addition to what you're currently doing'
I'm curious about this as well. I'd like to see 4k 120hz support confirmation as well. This device supports hdmi 2.1 and 8k 60hz, but doesn't explicitly state whether or not 4k 120hz is supported.
I wish review channels would put the price at the very start of the video.
If he did that then most of his recent vids would get only a few hundred views. Sure its blows the pi away...but so does the price. 223 dollars for 8 gb model.
@@ryecatcher25 This is one of the reasons why I choose to stop watching channels. It feels very clickbait ish.
Whoaaa, that Android Box looks amazing! Can you test some indie games with the Skyline emulator? I'd really want to know if it can handle some switch emulation.
Nice review as always ETA, some excellent performance there emulation wise and thank you very much for showing Gradius V sir! 😉🙌
looks like a big bang for the buck considering the top end one is only 250 bucks
Would be cool to check out the brandnew DosBoxPure Core Windows98, running in RetroArch. It also includes the Voodoo Graphics 3D Acceleration Card. Unreal was struggling on XBox Series X (tested by DF). And would be cool to see if Diablo II could run. Will be a whole lot of thinkering/fiddeling though…. But that’s the fun!
Amazing review! This is a sweet mini PC. I worry slightly about overheating. as it's fanless.
Wondering if this is a good replacement to my Nvidia shield freezing up occasionally. Curious how the HDMI in and outs would look and work... I have a tv/projector setup and switching HDMI inputs with this can save the hassle of another remote.
I would absolutely love to see this chip in a portable handheld gaming device running either Android or a variant of Linux, or even possibly a dual boot set up.
I know Google services run on the R58X, question is does it support Netflix, Disney and all the other streaming media? I'm in the market for a Nvidia Shield and don't want to buy old tech, where I could better for similar money.
Yes, nVidia Shield gets slow retired toward to RK3588. Price is also comparable $190.
Looks good and I'm looking forward to the Linux to run on it
I can't wait for an RK3588 handheld. That's going to be awesome. I'm ready to buy.
Even though this machine is what I'm looking, I'm still waiting on the "ROCK5 Model B." I plan on hosting a Resident Evil Outbreak server with it for friends of mine and have a friend already working on updating the server software to not need a VM to launch it.
It hits the right spot in specs:
8-Core RK3588 chip,
PCIe 3.0 NVMe for a 2230 M.2 (for the files itself to run fast),
2.5Gb Ethernet with PoE support,
64GB eMMC for the OS,
16GB of LPDDR4X,
2 full size HDMI 2.1 ports for output,
Sub-$200,
And most importantly of all, it fits in your pocket.
I'd love to see you use it as a DVR using the HDMI in port.
With the mounting points on the casing this unit looks like it would hook up very easily in an arcade cabinet.
For this kind of money I'll just try to build a decent PC so I can even play some PC games on it, not just emulation. This is nice device, it's just isn't worth it. Android boxes are still just good for media consumption with lower specs and price.
Everyone claims every android box is a pi killer yet none are priced comparable to the pi4 msrp
ETAPrime can you please list the names of the games you are showing in the videos. There are always ones you show that I’d like to play but I don’t know the names of the games. Love your videos & watch them everyday.
This is what I have been wait for. A SBC running PS2 emulation.
Those mini console should bring snapdragon 865 or 870 processors then could be a beast device for emulation concerns
At that point just wait for the 888
This device seems more powerful than my second gen i5 Dell laptop 😭
Great video!
For clarifying somethings
Snapdragon 855 can get 800 points at single core and 2962 at multi core.
GPU Wild life about 4700 points at 850mhz with V0631 drivers.
Snapdragon 865 can get 930 single and up to 3400 multi.
7400 points at 1050mhz with optimized kernel drivers in wild life.
You could do a new video if some devs make a optimized rom and kernel for this device.
That's powerful device but a old Xiomi Mi 9 could beat it in both sides.
Again great job 😎
Thanks for the info !
probably be the route to go if you are making a portable emulator setup with game grips on the phone. for a stationary setup this is nice with the I/O
What chip or android box is the best for wii & ps2 emulation? Any suggestion?
But how safe is the website? Looks very unprofessional and not at all trustworthy. To whoever is reading this who has ordered from them before, how did the sale go?
I ordered and received the R58X already back in April. They are legit.
Would really be interested to see something like Apex Legends Mobile run on this. Could be a really neat HTPC for living room gaming
10 to 1 he puts Steam OS on this … 😆😂😂😂🤣. He has been putting it on everything lately. All joking aside, great video as always. Expect nothing but quality like every other video you do. Thanks for your hard work!!
How do you install Ubuntu 20.04 on this. It shows it at there webpage but no link to click on it.
you're amazing RUclipsr ❤❤
I would love to see KDE BIGSCREEN formerly KDE TV in action on that box once the GPU drivers are fixed.
And as it is not usual yet a review comparing it with Android TV, WebOS, Tizen, and other TV OSs, in particular how well the remote works with video applications as Netflix and RUclips.
Thanks in advance.
Great Vid as always. One thing, the Galaxy S10+ you're using for comparison is not using Snapdragon 855. It's the Exynos 9820.
In North America it uses the Snapdragon, Exynos chips are generally used in the global version of the phone.
our online order has been closed.
Supplier: Mekotronics Co., Ltd.
Close Reason: Seller cancelled the order due to insufficient stock
Do they offer them for sale on other websites like Aliexpress or eBay ?
Which mini PCs can be powered by usb-c? That is which ones could be plugged to a nexdock and be powered by its battery?
Cool review thx!
edit1: I don't see any audio port on the front 1:33
Not feeling it for $200+ even if it is marginally better than the Shield.
Shield is horribly obsolete by technical standards for today, was a great piece of hardware new, but the past 7 years has really caught up to it, and while I own one, and I do like it, it's outdated and in horrible need of a modern refresh.
Beating something with a CPU from 7 years ago, isn't all that impressive, while costing more at that.
Shield had the Pro update, but it wasn't much of an update, more so they shifted to a more modern process node, performance wasn't noticeable.
I just ran antutu benchmark on the Shield TV, I got score 262109.
Keep it up ETA
Only $20 difference between this and the one with M.2 slot. Why did this even exist?
Please try installing Android TV/Google TV on this.
Nice Prime! Works Sega Saturn perfectly?
That little thing is awesome
I have a question, and kind of a request: Would it be possible to see if you can do the faster speeds without dropping frames? Even if you had to drop it down to 1440p to get 2x speed that would be extremely useful to know.
I'd love to see a video comparing some of these newer Android Boxes to NVidia Shield. Mine's starting to act wonky and I've been wanting to upgrade, but NVidia still hasn't made any effort to put out anything new...
Would be nice! The only upside I see to the Shield these days is that 4k AI-Upscaling is still superior to everything else
Got a solution for you . Dont be a fan boy . Pick the best not the fad
@@TheChrimboEffect Picking the best is literally why I made the post... A comparison video would reveal if this could be good enough to replace the Shield (specifically for me, in terms of codec support, Atmos, Dolby Vision, etc)
Finally: an octa core with 8GB of DDR4; nice.
Looks like its a vesa mount too which is very handy
which one would be more than enough for PS2/Gamecube: 4 GB of Ram or 8 GB?
For the price suggested in some reviews of 250~300 dollar for this version it offers too little extra compared to the shield and is way to expensive compared to the pi4(00). Not a killer at this expensives prices yet.
Also no community, no long term support, no nothing really. The pi or any random x86 refurbished pc beats the crap out of this destroyer
@@bzuidgeest The video is fine the Title of it is click bait at its worst , of course it will destroy a Pi at how multiples the cost of one? Shameful youtube algorithm attempt at maniplulation, yes the chip is good as many other channels have already posted, driver maturity and community support are what will give this new chipset some credability in my eyes, like comment and subscribe 😝
Will batoceara work on this?
Not yet, but word is they will have a build for this chip soon.
I'm wondering about, could you use the included remote foe Wii emulation...
Okay... Why remove nVME and not SATA? Kinda weird if you want a smaller size machine...
What's the Widevine level for this box?
Level 3, no HDCP.
Ps2 émulation : take that anbernic win600 ! x)
The S10+ you showed the results of, e9820 is written beside it, I think it's the Exynos chip, not snapdragon, resulting in lower performance.
How high is the powerconsumption on this thing?
I can't even find out how to buy one. The website gives no information on ordering.
Nice bro. Thank you.
Great..the best way on a arcade system (if we can have 640x480p).
Also,I m a noob with these tiny things outside raspberry,can I add a ssd inside?
the emmc just with android apk and roms on ssd.
Now,I use a classic pc hyperspin on my arcade,a shield and beeling gt on tv.
Hey it would be sick if you create a discord server, for discussing products and other, just a suggestion
Are there now any Android TV images available? I'm interested in upgrading from my Shield TV Pro but I cast to it all the time so I can't use standard Android.
Can you record 120-144hz HDMI input, since it is 2.0?
Where are the audio plugs? Where the IR & reset?
Price estimate for the cheapest model?
$189 excluding shipping and taxes.
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Can anyone help with some of the games of listed in the video that didn’t list the names. One was the Tony Hawk game on PSP, the Simpsons game on GameCube, the shooter on PS2 & the Dragon Ball game on PS2. I’d like to check them out but it didn’t list the name of those games. Thanks for your help.
What is the price of the device and the website in different languages; do you have site in English
If you have Linux on an arm processor can you run any games using proton like easy to run steam games something like binding of isaac
Has anyone used OBS Studio with Ubuntu and and ARM board? I know it can run 90 percent of all retro games but I'm trying to Livestream my speedruns on twitch
What is that controller on the thumbnail called?
Can you cover more amiga related stuff 😊👍
Why not find a amiga channel. There are so many of them
@@bzuidgeest I do, but I like this channel and just wanted to see if he will cover some in future
My TV box only got RK3229. It can play 4K videos but can't even run PS1 emulator properly.
Hi,Prime. I am looking forward to build a music steamer with some audiophile OS such as picoreplayer and volumio etc. Could you mind to include the compatibility of Arm SBC for these two OS in the future? Thank you so much.
Even your link does not go to this model. Where to buy and how much? without these two info items I won't watch a video more than a few seconds.
I can't put a link here, but it starts at $189 (excluding shipping/taxes). You send an email to Mekotronics for more info.
@@LivingLinux If you are the seller then see above. You loose all attention from buyers without these two key elements. I'm not buying wholesale so tracking down someone over the globe is not something I'll ever do.
The cheapest model is going for $189.
with 4gb smaller emmc and a lot less IO? This one is estimated at 250-300 dollar but not sold yet (Else ETA would off course have a link)
I'd love to know if this is capable of running Citra and 3DS games I'm still yet to find a convincing small format (low cost) device like this that can comfortably run 3ds with upres.
I really want to see one of these RK3588 SOC's on DDR5 memory, Rockchip claims it's supported on their site and it would help with performance all round. Anybody seen any in the wild yet?
they list the video out to be these, is this real??
2x HDMI 2.1 ports up to 8Kp60
1x DisplayPort up to 8Kp60
DisplayPort via USB-C port
Hey, I saw Windows 11 running on a Raspberry Pi - that sounds like a job for ETA Prime...
Hi, can this device run blender with linux operating system? You know, raspberry pi4 can run blender 2.79 version, would you be able to test it on this device?
it's probably gonna be a while before the 3D hardware accel. is working on Linux :( - but this little machine is GREAT for the PRICE!!!! Even the larger version is a great deal too! But I'm totally in agreement with the m.2 being needed (for me personally) - But I'll be picking one fo these up once they get that hardware accel going on Debian :)
Yet hardware acceleration is working on the pi. This thing most likely never gets acceleration because the manufacturers don't care. Just another hype box for the spec blind crowd. So much for pi destroyer.
Is this a jetson nano competitor potentially?
The first PS2 game you showed what game was that
Don't need a lot to destroy the pi4
You need a community and long term support and an os that is complete and fully working. And documentation and support forums and and and. Pi isn't about hardware. This thing will be gone in a week, replaced by something else while the pi will still be going strong. Destroyer this thing is not
LOL, I'll wait until can order from other options besides the link. Looks good though.
Like the ASRock Industrial video, I would be delighted to order this device and even bulk purchase to sell products powered by this, but it's not publicly available. It's frustrating to see that the tech is out there at a good price but restricted to industry titans.
I got an ASRockInd 4x4Box 4800U from NewEgg a while back, overestimated my soldering abilities and ruined the type-A USB3 port trying to replace it with a double port like the barebones board version has (the case needs some modification to fit it). Asked the local distributor if they'd sell me the barebones board and they never replied :D
Funnily enough they were a supplier for my employer but I never bothered to try again from my work email. It really is a shame these things aren't available retail.
@@Birdulon I don't even mind the lack of support when it comes to the hobbyist side of things, but I haven't found a way to get anything since I'm not a large corporate customer. Sorry you had to go through that - it's always a risk when you don't have reliable support. The problem is that I need a test board to design a product before I sell it - then once I have a viable product, I can advertise and sell, and order in bulk since I know I can actually handle the volume. I'm sure more advanced enthusiasts have established relationships in Shenzhen and know how to handle it, but unfortunately I'm not in that camp. I love Arduino and Raspberry Pi for their attitudes but their chips just aren't powerful enough for my interests.
I try to excuse just about everything by chalking it up to the pandemic and resulting supply shortages, but I have a hard time believing it when I see companies riding the same old Rockchip train while two years ago I had a smartwatch with a far more powerful MediaTek chip for the same price. I wish I knew more, but the argument that certain stocks of chips are abundant and therefore cheaper just hasn't proven true in my experience. Sure, the latest chipsets are in shorter supply, but current issues don't justify the continuing flood of RK3326 retro devices and the bizarre disconnect between less powerful Qualcomm SBCs selling for basically the same price as x86 boards that are far more capable.
Price is crucial as a smaller player, even when making highly specialized devices. The current market simply doesn't allow for small-scale production. As a customer, I wouldn't even want to pay the retail price of the board itself, let alone the base cost of production and materials that end up in the final product. I'm lucky I don't rely on this for income, and feel awful for those that do.
You can order, but I can't put the link here. Or just send an email to Mekotronics.
It seem more and more a tactic to first send them to the reviewers with no price stated yet creating a hype, but with a lot of disappointment when the price gets known. For 250-300 dollar you could look for a midrange mobile more powerfull than is.
@@erikkarsies4851 I bought the R58X for $250 back in early April. So it's not that they started with hyping, before announcing the price. You can check it on my channel. Mekotronics is looking at distributors to handle the sales. It looks like more companies are adding HDMI In (Lenovo Yoga Tab 13, VIM 4, Rock 5), something I haven't seen with mobiles.
what about linux? doest it well on it?
Still waiting for the your top 5 or 10 highend mini pc
Would this unit be viable to run yuzu?
Does multiplayer work on ps2?
Are you going to do a video with a linux OS? I would be interested in seeing how well it does with that as that is one of the reasons I would buy this product.
Save yourselve the money and buy a refurbished HP prodesk 600 or something like that. Can be had for a third of the price if you look around. And those run Linux fine and are supported like any other x86 machine. Unlike this box which the manufacturer forgets about tomorrow because they have something new to sell you.
Can you test Switch emulator skyline on rk3588?
Too bad. Only thing that I do not like is that there is not USB c for power input.
No price, don't care.
The price for this seems way too high for normal consumers but this feels very industrial and well built.
Really? It's $319 for the fully loaded 16GB ram 128GB storage model. For something as powerful as this that's an amazing deal.
It's already better than the nvidia shield in everyway
$200 will be the sweet spot since this is still an arm device with limited OS support.
@@typingcat1814 steam deck exists which completely invalidates this at that price point
@@bthegawd8113 I think the R58 Mini starts at $180.
Gonna try batocera on there ?
this device is what im talking about
Can you run Steam OS on this?
I'm looking for something to replace my shield. Emulating ps2 is something I'm interested in. Just trying to find a cheaper option
Hp prodesk 600 or the like. Can be had for a third of the price and a core i5 model wil do something as old as PS2 and it runs windows to so you can use it as a daily driver.
I don't see a Raspberry Pi killer, is too much expensive for that comparison. Clickbait.
With the shortage of the Pi4, real prices are not that much higher. Once Radxa releases the Rock 5, that will be the Pi killer.
Agree... a Pi killer should be under 100 dollar and when do we get the power in these kind of system of a midrange mobile xD
@@LivingLinux this thing is not a pi killer, it has no community, no support long term, the pi will still be there when this thing has gone the way of the dodo. Pi is not about hardware.
@@erikkarsies4851 pi is about more then hardware and price.
@@bzuidgeest According to leepspvideo they are working on (U)EFI support. When they can pull that off, you can probably run any ARM distro with (U)EFI support. That's how I run Ubuntu, Fedora, Alma, etc. on a Phytium D2000. So it might have longer legs than you can imagine. Just because the Pi community is big now, doesn't mean that they can postpone the Pi5 for a long time.