Outfit I used to work for had a couple of the 300s in grey and red with v8 Detroits unbelievably slow. They also had 6 or 8 220b models, some in grey/red and some the Case butterscotch paint. 220 models had the Duetz air cooled v12. They were old and beaten badly but had a bottomless bucket of balls. And a 160 with the 'old bus motor' 6-71. The external swing did wrap up a log floating by in a river job, didn't snap the shaft but bent the 1"plus superstructure floor plate. They were interesting machines. On the 220 hoist and tool cylinders were interchangeable as well as swing and traction motors.
God spent 15 years operating p90s and 170 and 22o they leaked oil even brand new. It taught you to operate. Because they were the hardest work out of any excavator. Thanks mate great vid im going to have another look
The dealer where I started my apprenticeship sold new ones. These were HC300s as I recall. I also ended up with two of them at a coal company some years later. An excavator and a front shovel. First high pressure hydraulics and ran around 5,000 PSI when everyone else was running 2,500 PSI. They had too much implement power which resulted in all the welding you see on that machine. They didn't just leak that expensive automatic transmission fluid that they used for the hydraulics, they bled it. I would spend three to five days fixing leaks which would limit the loss to a couple of gallons a day. In a month we were back to a drum of oil a week. They would dig rock and save you from drilling and shooting if you could keep oil in them and had enough welding rod.
Where is this ? You don't have to be exact . It looks like Cache Creek or Osoyoos type of desert . You and I have met years ago when I was hauling logs . I'm from Mission but not born here . Happy New Years and keep up the good work . Ed Giesbrecht
Mother nature makes frozen ground harder than steel... Put enough power behind it, something will give.... and it may not be the ground. Thank you Skadill! Merry Christmas 🎄
@@maplemanz lol.. I've watched Guys pull pads off the rails.. stuff sets all weekend, not on a brush pile or blocks.. Monday morning and try moving it without trying to work it free first.. my excavator sat a few months, didn't need it on blocks when I parked it.. Took a couple of hours, but finally got all the pads broke loose 😁
Another nice find Skadill. Pretty large machine for the early 70s. Finning decal looks to be about the same age/vintage as the paint, possibly on it since new or close to new? The timeline for these was before the 235 & 245 were released so Finning wouldnt have had a large Hyd machine to market. Kind of like alot of the Caterpillar dealers selling the Northwest crane and shovel line back in the 40s-60s. Northwest was not a competitor to anything in the Cat line so it was allowed. Love the old iron Skadill!
She's an HC 300 Poclain alright. Interior construction had one in Kamloops and Dawson construction had a 1000 with a shovel attachment also in Kamloops. A lot of the European manufacturers mounted the hyd cylinders backwards (cyl on top, piston rod on the bottom) but these seemed to escape that method. Maybe someone can answer the reason for this method.
Hi Kevin. On the very large excavators the cylinder rods are heavier than the barrels so with the cylinders mounted upside down it actually reduces the weight of the front attachment that is being lifted. The european manufacturers also seemed to like plumbing/routing all the hoses up the boom to all cylinders on the front end.
I believe the purpose was to keep the cylinders from bending do to any slop in the pins that would allow the cylinder to be twisted sideways, which I suppose is a legitimate concern. Modern excavators accomplish this with spherical bushings, which is like a ball joint on the ends of the cylinder.
They were poorly looked after in the us and Canada. Superior machines in Europe with proper dealers and backup. The later ones know as vanguard series were much better. 60 70 75 85 90 and so on. First out with servo pilot controls.
I know it's a delayed response, but do you recall anything about the name of the second excavator? the one at the very end of the video? I've just never seen anything like it
No it's not the the steel but more the design, back than they didn't have the computer aided stress analysis like today back then they relied more on making scale models and doing strain Guage test to determine high stress areas ,thus it took a lot a time to engineer a design from concept to mass produced machines that are reliable.
Man this ol' Iron makes you think of the mountains they have moved! Mint Vidya bud!
Miiint👌
Outfit I used to work for had a couple of the 300s in grey and red with v8 Detroits unbelievably slow. They also had 6 or 8 220b models, some in grey/red and some the Case butterscotch paint. 220 models had the Duetz air cooled v12. They were old and beaten badly but had a bottomless bucket of balls. And a 160 with the 'old bus motor' 6-71. The external swing did wrap up a log floating by in a river job, didn't snap the shaft but bent the 1"plus superstructure floor plate. They were interesting machines. On the 220 hoist and tool cylinders were interchangeable as well as swing and traction motors.
God spent 15 years operating p90s and 170 and 22o they leaked oil even brand new. It taught you to operate. Because they were the hardest work out of any excavator. Thanks mate great vid im going to have another look
LOoks like a still runnable rig but it sure WOULD be interesting. I'd like to have been around Matt erg and his adventures. Thanks, Pal and GBWYall!
The dealer where I started my apprenticeship sold new ones. These were HC300s as I recall. I also ended up with two of them at a coal company some years later. An excavator and a front shovel. First high pressure hydraulics and ran around 5,000 PSI when everyone else was running 2,500 PSI. They had too much implement power which resulted in all the welding you see on that machine. They didn't just leak that expensive automatic transmission fluid that they used for the hydraulics, they bled it. I would spend three to five days fixing leaks which would limit the loss to a couple of gallons a day. In a month we were back to a drum of oil a week. They would dig rock and save you from drilling and shooting if you could keep oil in them and had enough welding rod.
Cool old machine, thanks Todd, have a Merry Christmas
Where is this ? You don't have to be exact . It looks like Cache Creek or Osoyoos type of desert . You and I have met years ago when I was hauling logs . I'm from Mission but not born here . Happy New Years and keep up the good work . Ed Giesbrecht
Which truck or comapny?
Mother nature makes frozen ground harder than steel... Put enough power behind it, something will give.... and it may not be the ground.
Thank you Skadill!
Merry Christmas 🎄
Not what i want to think of ,with a bunch of equipment out right now
That is so true I've personally dug frost here in Minnesota that would push any brand excavator to its limits ,like 4 foot deep frost.
@@maplemanz lol.. I've watched Guys pull pads off the rails.. stuff sets all weekend, not on a brush pile or blocks.. Monday morning and try moving it without trying to work it free first.. my excavator sat a few months, didn't need it on blocks when I parked it..
Took a couple of hours, but finally got all the pads broke loose 😁
Another nice find Skadill. Pretty large machine for the early 70s. Finning decal looks to be about the same age/vintage as the paint, possibly on it since new or close to new? The timeline for these was before the 235 & 245 were released so Finning wouldnt have had a large Hyd machine to market. Kind of like alot of the Caterpillar dealers selling the Northwest crane and shovel line back in the 40s-60s. Northwest was not a competitor to anything in the Cat line so it was allowed. Love the old iron Skadill!
Finning sold JCB here to in early 80's
Nice find! It's had a hard life for sure!
HEY....1986 Chevy 3/4 ton. Matches the Poclain cab. haha
No charge for the 45 degree offset cab
The frenchies sure had a different way of designing things on those poclains.
Great video thanks for posting
She's an HC 300 Poclain alright. Interior construction had one in Kamloops and Dawson construction had a 1000 with a shovel attachment also in Kamloops. A lot of the European manufacturers mounted the hyd cylinders backwards (cyl on top, piston rod on the bottom) but these seemed to escape that method. Maybe someone can answer the reason for this method.
There was a 1000 I saw years ago in a mill yard by the river it looked like, in shovel configuration ( Kamloops)
@@skadill That's the one. It was used to 4 lane that stretch between Kamloops and Heffley Creek.
@@kevinroach6461 Long gone now?
@@skadill Yup, she's a goner. Don't know if it was scrapped or what happened to it.
Hi Kevin. On the very large excavators the cylinder rods are heavier than the barrels so with the cylinders mounted upside down it actually reduces the weight of the front attachment that is being lifted. The european manufacturers also seemed to like plumbing/routing all the hoses up the boom to all cylinders on the front end.
Why did Poclain use those 90 degree pin adapters on the cylinder mountings?
That’s my question too
I believe the purpose was to keep the cylinders from bending do to any slop in the pins that would allow the cylinder to be twisted sideways, which I suppose is a legitimate concern. Modern excavators accomplish this with spherical bushings, which is like a ball joint on the ends of the cylinder.
They were poorly looked after in the us and Canada. Superior machines in Europe with proper dealers and backup. The later ones know as vanguard series were much better. 60 70 75 85 90 and so on. First out with servo pilot controls.
I know it's a delayed response, but do you recall anything about the name of the second excavator? the one at the very end of the video? I've just never seen anything like it
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very old one! Is it a GC120 model?
Boa noite muito top serviço máquina meu amigo feliz Natal pra você família
Merry Christmas you you also! Thanks for watching even though it seems English isnt your first language
Nice find
good
Beauty Machine Poclain
They guy I bought my excavator from has A huge Poclain excavator for sale idk exactly what model it is
I thought the old steel was stronger than the new stuff, but this proves my theory to be incorrect
No it's not the the steel but more the design, back than they didn't have the computer aided stress analysis like today back then they relied more on making scale models and doing strain Guage test to determine high stress areas ,thus it took a lot a time to engineer a design from concept to mass produced machines that are reliable.
@@maplemanz good analysis. Thanks for the info
Merry Christmas you dirty animals
Gassman