Adidas Adizero SL2 - The trainer Adizero needed

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  • Опубликовано: 30 июл 2024
  • My initial impressions of the new Adidas Adizero SL2 after 51.4km (31.9mi).
    0:00 Intro
    0:22 Adidas SL history
    6:10 Specs
    6:30 Upper & Fit
    10:38 Midsole
    12:13 Outsole
    13:17 Unexpected connections
    14:51 Takumi Sen history
    17:18 The ride
    18:13 Foot strike differences
    19:21 Adizero toe off feel
    20:52 Performance matrix
    23:29 An Adizero performance trainer
    24:17 Next steps
    25:14 Outro
    The Adidas Adizero Boston - Why is this running shoe series so well loved? • The Adidas Adizero Bos...
    Adidas Takumi Sen and Takumi Ren review andykumar.net/2015/04/09/adid...
    Adidas Adizero Takumi Sen 10 - No longer the most niche running shoe • Adidas Adizero Takumi ...
    Disclosures: No one is paying me to make this video and no one has any editorial control over the contents of this video. Additionally, I have no connection into Adidas’s design or marketing process. Everything I cover in this video is my own opinion and experience.
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  • @hiepjake
    @hiepjake Месяц назад +22

    and he delivers 🎉

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад +9

      Sometimes all it takes is a little time. I’d rather be detailed than first… 👍🏻

  • @danielamos672
    @danielamos672 Месяц назад +6

    Your insight and detail are unmatched in the running shoe space on RUclips. Enjoying your channel more and more. Keep up the good work! 👏🏼

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад +1

      Thank you for the kind words and support! 🤙🏻

  • @ucatani
    @ucatani Месяц назад +8

    I like your product-design approach for these reviews, as you leave most of the price tag component out. Don't get me wrong, prices matter and I don't have an unlimited budget for shoes, as neither do most people, specially in Brazil, where imported products are tagged with a 50-100% premium upon release, perhaps because of importing taxes and currency issues, or because the big corporations know they'll sell anyhow. However, most of the other reviews on this shoe (and other models, too) focus on cost-benefit, and sometimes this approach "clouds" viewer's glance into design and usage (and I'm including myself).
    Interestingly, in other contexts, these prices could be totally rearranged, perhaps rearranging consumer bias towards this or that brand/model as well. Here's a list of daily trainers as they are priced in Brazil at this point, converted to USD:
    1. Adidas Supernova Rise - 100 USD (w/ a discount)
    2. Nike Vomero 17 - 120 USD (w/ a discount)
    3. Adidas SL2 - 145 USD (full price)
    4. Puma VN 3 - 160 USD (full price)
    5. Nike Pegasus 41 - 180 USD (full price)
    6. NB Rebel V4 - 180 USD (full price).
    As for the SL2, got my pair this morning in the "wannabe-volt" colorway, ahah! Let's see how it does on the road.
    Keep up the good work, Chris, and happy Sunday for everyone out there.

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад +1

      This is why I don't often talk about price. I did a video on this a while back actually (ruclips.net/video/pY2NHyImMns/видео.html). My audience is global and pricing, sales, specials...are all over the place globally. The price I pay, or the price I think is right for the shoe, is irrelevant. I only talk about pricing (in USD) when it's a VERY relevant "feature" of the shoe (like the with Puma Velocity Nitro 3)...even them I'll always put a condition on it for local markets.
      The "volt" SL2 colorway is my second favorite one. We also don't have it here in Taiwan...

  • @CELane-zv6uj
    @CELane-zv6uj Месяц назад +11

    Nailed it! I love the analysis and shoe anthology you bring to your reviews! I only have 20 miles in my SL2s so far but boy do I love them. Your Takumi Sen/Ren analysis has opened up my point of view on what i can do with this shoe!

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад +6

      Right, it makes sense and the SL2 can do so much. The design history is definitely there.

  • @carlosgarciabanda
    @carlosgarciabanda Месяц назад +9

    I got it last week and I’m in love with its performance.

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад +1

      It’s quite a surprise in all the best ways. Great shoe!

    • @FatUglySadMan
      @FatUglySadMan Месяц назад

      Best daily running shoe I have bought in years,this is the comfort and bounce I wanted from the Boston 12
      I can do everything I can do in the Boston 12 in this shoe just in a lot more comfort.

    • @ganchinho
      @ganchinho Месяц назад

      what paces are you running with them?

    • @maze1275
      @maze1275 14 дней назад

      is it good for daily runs?

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  14 дней назад +1

      That is what it is designed for…

  • @CrispySauce75
    @CrispySauce75 Месяц назад +3

    Nailed it! Insane pound-for-pound running shoe, especially since adidas has frequent promos. The Value and versatility is tough to beat at around $100

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад +4

      Fully agree. Though wait until I get to the Puma Velocity Nitro 3 comparison… there are some further thoughts here. Stay tuned later this week.

  • @michaelcaricoo
    @michaelcaricoo Месяц назад +2

    The video the people have been waiting for. I still think it is an absolute crime that Adidas isn't giving the SL2 the promotion that it deserves, the mainline page hasn't mentioned it at all. This makes me want to pick up the TS10 though, I held off for a while but if it's basically a slimmed down, racing version of the SL2 then it's got me interest more than it did, especially now that the Metaspeed hasn't worked out well for me since I was using that for faster stuff due to the weight. Fingers crossed the Pro 4 has a release before Chicago

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад

      I'm really shocked Adidas has not promoted this shoe, at all. Absolutely nothing anywhere. No global press release, no social media promotion, not even any influencer promotion.
      Interestingly, the shoe was promoted in Japan but Adidas Japan. They issued a press release and have been doing some social media promotion of it featuring popular Japanese pro Adidas runners. Even Adidas Japan Adidas pros have been promoting the shoe on their social media. Which is odd because Adidas Japan usually follows what the HQ in Herzo does. However, it just all supported my mindset that the SL2 is (design-wise) related to the old Takumi Ren...

  • @mattbeier
    @mattbeier Месяц назад

    Really enjoyed this initial review of the SL2 and glad you are enjoying it. I’m loving the show as well. Your review is the first I’ve seen where the connection was made to the SL2 being the training partner to the Takumi Sen. I can see that now thinking back to my time in the TS8 and how I’ve had a lot of those same feeling in the SL2. Keep up the great content and looking forward to your other SL2 comparison videos.

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад

      Thank you for the support. Once I made the connection away from the B12 and to the Takumi Ren… the SL2 really made sense to me.

  • @smagic614
    @smagic614 Месяц назад

    Great dissection, Sir. This was a pleasure to watch.

  • @addappt
    @addappt Месяц назад

    Good video mate. Love the graphs around where you think the shoe sits in terms of pace.

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад +1

      I’m glad it was helpful. I first used that performance matrix in one of my “vs” videos and got great feedback. It was definitely needed here.

  • @josenaveo588
    @josenaveo588 Месяц назад

    You knocked it out of the park on this review. Great work on analysis, history and storytelling!

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад +1

      Thank you. This is one of those shoes that has a history worth telling, but not really enough of one for a stand alone video. So I got it all in here. Had to edit out quite a bit but I’m happy with the result. 🤙🏻

  • @Hana_shorts8436
    @Hana_shorts8436 Месяц назад +1

    Once again, a best review!

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад

      Thank you! You have been here since the start so you would know. 🤙🏻

  • @akwk2712
    @akwk2712 Месяц назад

    Took mine out for their maiden voyage yesterday. Very comfortable and surprisingly quick too. Love them.

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад

      Surprisingly quick is definitely correct.

  • @Calicoem
    @Calicoem Месяц назад +1

    Let’s go! Just did a first run in mine yesterday was surprised how squishy it was compared to the SL a shoe I actually enjoyed despite it being really stiff.

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад +1

      Night and day differences between the SL and SL2… in my mind it all comes down the flexibility of the Lightstrike foam. The SL2 foam is Nair so much better in that way. I actually don’t find the SL2 too soft…

  • @olli-perttikojo4424
    @olli-perttikojo4424 Месяц назад +1

    I love that the lateral heel bias is made here by lack of medial heel bewel. I applied powertools today and created that medial heel bewel. That forced supination on heel landing made my lower back hurt. Fixed it 😮 so this shoe is my detox for overly soft shoes. To me, the bounce is super shoe level. But my foot is the only plate. Good point that medial forefoot collapse. Is ok.

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад

      Interesting solution.
      One thing I didn't mention in the review is that this shoe is a good transition shoe for those wanting to ween themselves off of super hight stack shoes. It's a lower mid stack shoe that runs like ti has more foam in it. A great tool to help people transition away from the high stack shoes full time.

  • @Hypnogogic
    @Hypnogogic Месяц назад +1

    Just had my first run in them. Only five miles but wow! I had an easy day on the schedule and I was afraid these would make me want to run faster but I restrained myself and these responded extremely well to easy pace. Can’t wait to throw some tempo at them. I recently got the SNR and I’ve got about 50 miles on them and they’ve been excellent too. After running in the SL2, it’s going to be hard to want to run in anything else though, at least for a couple of weeks.

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад +2

      The SL2 is surprisingly easy to run, easy, in. Much more so that other performance trainers I have tried this year. Keep those SNRs around. It's not an either/or between the SL2 and SNR...they are complimentary. I'll get into it in my next video, my SL2 vs SNR video... stay tuned.

  • @TroySpringer11
    @TroySpringer11 Месяц назад +1

    Love bringing in the history

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад

      How can I not? Thats what I do, especially when an important line makes it's first appearance on the channel.

  • @TimGrose
    @TimGrose Месяц назад +3

    Good insight as ever especially the Foot Strike Differences section as strikes an accord about midfoot striking and rolling in a bit. I like this shoe but I think I will need to park it until sort out some issues. My physio thinks I need more arch support and I felt the SL2 basically has none so hence some rolling in! In recent weeks some ankle and Achilles issues which had been troubling me for a while got a lot worse - not due to this shoe (think more general overuse TBH) but I when I tried the SL2 those issues certainly did not go away and actually, in hindsight, made things worse. But hey got to get some miles in a shoe to "review" it. As a result been reaching for the Peg 41s instead and indeed now am trying them with insoles with more arch support. Maybe they might help in the SL2 but then the "SL" would be lost and would need to pull out the glued insoles. So when I hear things like the SL2 is a lot better than the Peg 41s etc etc well yes it is if you want a lightweight "daily" trainer shoe that is fun and snappy but it must suit your gait.

    • @ucatani
      @ucatani Месяц назад +3

      I found the same, here. I got my pair this morning and haven't run in it, but just by looking at them and trying them on, it's clear that the midsole design looks like a flat 9mm drop angle on both sides.
      Also, looking at the bevel from behind, I can see a clear supination angle in the midsole, pointing outwards, which is even more accentuated by the extra, upper section of Lighstrike foam encasing the Lightstrike pro section. In fact, I've detected that on the whole Boston and Adizero line, and this has been keeping me from trying them. This time I bought the SL2 to give it a try, but the SL2 is almost certainly not going to work for me.
      Speaking from an exclusively gait/physio/ride point of view, and leaving aside the whole Adidas x Nike x that or this brand cult behavior aside, I think I've just become so accostumed to that "shark" Pegasus/Vomero shape, that I'll have to stick to that type of arc, for the benefit of my running form.

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад +1

      Oh man, if you need more arch support...that may limit your use of Adidas shoes in the future as the Adizeo series literally has none often, even those you can put an orthotic in (which is rare).
      Nike, however, is a good option for you. I noticed an aggressive arch in the Peg41 when i first put them on (which mellowed out now)...but with an orthitic in them they should work well. Even the VF2/3 and AF3 should work for you as they also have aggressive arch support...
      I'll be talking about all of this in my SL2 vs Peg41 video mid week!
      You need to heel up so you can get back out there running... we have alot to discuss!

  • @kevinscott4938
    @kevinscott4938 Месяц назад +3

    Fascinating video - the takumi sen/ren connection. Very very interesting. I bought a takumi sen boost but they were sent back, far to tight in a UK 9 (was totally not true to size back then)

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад

      That was back in the day when Adidas fits were extreme and all over the place. I’ve also heard that the Takumi Sen/ren made for the EU vs the one made for the Japanese market had different lasts…. The fabled differences in rhetoric “Asian last”.

    • @kevinscott4938
      @kevinscott4938 Месяц назад +1

      @@SagasuRunning they were awful is all I know. I’ve been tempted to get the sl2 as everyone is singing its prises. Typically out of stock in my size everywhere in the Uk :( . Puma velocity nitro 3 will have to remain my daily driver. 😉

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад +2

      I’ll have a SL2 vs VN3 video up by the end of the week. You may be interested in that one!

    • @kevinscott4938
      @kevinscott4938 Месяц назад +1

      @@SagasuRunning well sold!

    • @TimGrose
      @TimGrose Месяц назад

      @@kevinscott4938 adidas UK seems to have got every size going of the SL2 in at least 2 of the 3 colours on offer. I could even get my fairly obscure UK 13.5 in 2 colours. Or do you need bigger than that?

  • @onikari8
    @onikari8 Месяц назад

    Very interesting video, thanks dude !

  • @ShamirDasgupta
    @ShamirDasgupta Месяц назад

    I am always here for the shoe history ❤

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад

      Thank you for watching. I’m glad some people enjoy it as much as I do. 🤙🏻

  • @bobgibson1303
    @bobgibson1303 Месяц назад +1

    I tested this shoe and agree I could feel where the lightstrike in this shoe ends at the toe. I found the Supernova Prima to give me that extra cushion in the toe I wanted but am loving using the Sl2 and Supernova Prima as my primary daily training shoes and will slot in the Superblast 2. I have my plated shoes for more longer sustained and threshold runs

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад

      It is unfortunate they designed the toe area like this but i also understand why they did it. It works well enough for a training context.

  • @justinmarchack446
    @justinmarchack446 Месяц назад

    Thanks for this video! Been really looking forward to your thoughts on it. It’s been on my radar recently to add to my rotation. I’m actually from Trinidad in the Caribbean & needed a daily trainer that could be used as a hybrid (road to trail). I love the testing you did on the Puma Velocity Nitro 3, can you kindly compare these two? Never really got along with the less flexible Lightsrike foam, so this 2.0 looks very intriguing.

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад +1

      I'll be doing a "vs" video comparing the two later this week...BUT I'm going to give you the TL;DR....buy the VN3 if you need any road to trail....it's the MUCH better option. Stay tuned for more...

  • @tadejdanev5030
    @tadejdanev5030 Месяц назад

    you make great reviews :)

  • @q3bing
    @q3bing Месяц назад

    Spot on review once again! A fairly interesting point that I saw another reviewer said is that if you look at the insoles of all Adizero shoes, the Pro3, takumi sen 10, and now SL2 are all perforated while the Boston and Adios 8 both have non-perforated ones. It's a somewhat strange design choice however if you think of the separation as intentional, it really feels like the former 3 is designed to complete a "premium" rotation, while the latter 2 are sort of another line of "budget rotation", where Boston 12 covers daily easy, tempo, and longer races with Adios 8 handling threshold, interval (basically faster) and shorter races. Would love to hear your thoughts on this!

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад +1

      It's more different generations. The B12 and A8 are both last generation now. The TS and AP have always had non removable insoles as they are race shoes. What I find interesting is just how performance oriented they went with the SL2 and followed suit of the race models. I fully expect the Adios 9 to have a non-removable insole. Though with a Boston 13, if we even see one, I'm not sure. it would make sense for Adidas to push the Adizero range to all non-removable insoles as it gives a better feel but will limit usability for some runners who need orthotics.

  • @KimiCars
    @KimiCars Месяц назад +1

    Already ran 3 times on SL2 and it's an excellent daily trainer for me. Really worth buying it for 90$

  • @recguerra3
    @recguerra3 Месяц назад

    This analysis is SUPERB. Thanks a lot! I loved the intro about SL20 and it's origin SL72, and how product-wise it stripped down to Duramo line... In my heart, since I love my old SL20, I feel more like a fork between Duramo and SL, and I guess the dna of SL20 rhat relates to the SL2 is the creative jump. I'll definitely have one, just not sure if I wait more colors... anyway, I'm sick recovering and having SL2 but not sample running it would be just impossible; better wait a little!
    So.. is it a good understanding as trainers and racing partners:
    - SL2 - Takumi Sen
    - Boston 12 - Adios Pro 3 and Evo (?)
    I look forward to your review between Supernova Rise and SL2. SN Rise is just too soft to me, but it will be fun having your insights. To me, it could work as a walking shoe (yes, walking is part of my recreational runner training).
    Cheers!
    ❤🇧🇷👏👏👏

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад +1

      The SL20 was a fun shoe way back when.
      There will be A TON of colorways for the SL2...you will definitely have some options to pick from.
      The Adidas rotations I see now are this (I'll eventually do a video on this once we see the rest of the Adizero linup)
      SNR = Cushioned trainer/long slow runs
      SL2 = Daily all rounder
      TS10 = workouts and 5/10k racing, maybe half marathon
      B12 = longer tempo/threshold running (especially if your race in the Evo 1, you need a durable training option)
      AP3 = half/full racing and training
      So you can combine them in many ways depending on what you need.
      My point on the B12 was more that because it was the default Adizero trainer in 2023, due the the SL not being quite good enough, people used it for much more types of running than it was really intended or good for. They ould be better served doing that in the SL2 now and reserving the B12 as a true tempo trainer.

    • @recguerra3
      @recguerra3 Месяц назад

      @@SagasuRunning thanks for the reply! Bynthe way, I think I already watched over 10 videos but I don't recall you introducing yourself... what's your name?
      Thanks for the mindfull reply!

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад +1

      Hi, I’m Chris. Nice to “meet” you. 🤙🏻

    • @recguerra3
      @recguerra3 Месяц назад

      @@SagasuRunning Rodrigo here!
      🙌👍🇧🇷

  • @timtrenholm3698
    @timtrenholm3698 Месяц назад +1

    Looks like I found my next dedicated treadmill shoe, once I retire my 1st pair of Novablast V3, and transition the 2nd pair of NB V3 to outside.
    Hopefully Adidas continues to utilize the design of the inner heel on the entire Adizero line. Which will allow a wider audience to utilize their shoes.
    Point of reference, my last adizero shoe I loved was the Adios 6, due to the inner heel.

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад

      Hmmm, the medial heel is an issue though. It allows the door to cave inward for this with even mild pronation. The same issue as in the Takumi Sen.
      For the heel you are talking about the upper given the heel lift issue you’ve mentioned before?
      If not the heel upper…What works about it for you? I know Adidas heel bevels can be overly aggressive for some.

    • @timtrenholm3698
      @timtrenholm3698 Месяц назад +1

      @@SagasuRunning Takumi Sen8 works lovely for me, it seems the heel cup design limits heel lift since the cup is so flexible. Unlike the Boston 12, which was a nightmare for heel lift.
      Having a Nike style inner heel padding strip seems to be the solution to my heel lift issues. Having the heel cup be flexible is just an added bonus. Think TS8 heel padding and the Puma DN Elite V1, both with inner padding strips which should be problematic, but both are very flexible heel cups which allow the lacing lockdown to keep the heel in place, is my theory.
      While I consider myself a mild pronator, I've been using a standing desk for work for nearly a year and a half now, which built up natural lower leg strength. To the point that I am now able to integrate 1k downhill loops at marathon effort in anticipation of my Boston '25 bib. (BQ minus 8:36min).

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад

      The SL2 heel cup should do well for you then. Here is to continue progress to that BQ. I’ll pick that one up next year….

  • @davidblockley9923
    @davidblockley9923 Месяц назад

    Best review of many of this great shoe

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад

      I appreciate that! It really is outstanding!

  • @realgrilledsushi
    @realgrilledsushi Месяц назад +1

    Done watching. Excellent history background, I assume you gonna mention SL72 as the ancestor of the SL even though I didn’t see that connection😂 My question, how does this compare to Supernova Rise?

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад +4

      The connection is they is where the “SL” product name originates. Researching this video made me curious about the retro SL72…. I’m a big fan of the Samba for casual use but I may check out the SL ‘72 OG.
      Stay tuned for my next video… it will be the SL2 vs SNR comparison…. I have quite a bit to say…. It should be up in the next 24-48hrs from this comment.

  • @surajtripathi3624
    @surajtripathi3624 13 дней назад

    I'm going for sl2 now after seeing ur video

  • @m.ch4rmaland3r10
    @m.ch4rmaland3r10 Месяц назад

    I still have the tekumi sen5. Compared it to my 8. So much has changed. So tempted to get the sl

  • @Leme994
    @Leme994 Месяц назад

    Amazing video packed with useful information as always!
    How does it fit compared to the SL1?

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад +1

      Similar, but better. The upper is less padded and smoother on the foot. One the midsole starts to break in, around 30k for me it seems, the whole shoe softens up and molds to you foot. Something that the SL1 never did as LS foam always remained fairly rigid.

  • @adraids2362
    @adraids2362 Месяц назад +3

    Been waiting for this review!

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад

      Enjoy...let me know what you think. 🤙🏻

  • @aitorcristianraposeiras4882
    @aitorcristianraposeiras4882 Месяц назад

    Nice review! New perspective added compared to other reviews I've seen. So, I suspect that if I have Supernova Rise, Boston 12 and Adios 8, the SL2 doesn't have a place in my rotation, right?

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад +1

      If the B12 or A8 are needing of replacement soon, the SL2 is a prime candidate for that. Keep the SNR as is...

  • @OdanUrr87
    @OdanUrr87 Месяц назад

    Ah, so that's where the Duramo SL comes from. Likewise, I had no idea about the Takumi Ren, thanks! The fit with Adidas' shoes has been strange for me. I'm a US 10.5 with Nike Pegasus (same with Puma's VN3), but with the AP3 I went half a size down, then when I tried the SNR I was between 11 and 11.5, and when I tried the SL2 I was 11. Going from your performance matrix alone, I would've imagined the SL2 to be almost interchangeable with the SNR and not that good of a (non-plated) tempo/interval companion shoe (something like the VN3, though that's not a dedicated tempo trainer). I read that your next comparison is gonna be the SL2 v SNR so I'll definitely be looking forward to that one (and SL2 v VN3 after that too!).

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад +1

      The SL2 and SNR are complimentary, not and either/or. yes, my next video will get into it.

  • @elliotendures
    @elliotendures Месяц назад +1

    Most anticipated video in a while. Perhaps another comment after watching.

    • @elliotendures
      @elliotendures Месяц назад

      Great video, as always. I have a mild fit concern about these, as the Boston 12 doesn’t work for me, whereas the Supernova Rise, Adios 8 and Adios Pro 3 work well. That said, competition is the ultimate delay for me. The Rise is just so comfortable and easy to wear for so many things and I just received the S1 after watching your video (no runs yet)… then add the coming Superblast 2 and the Adios 9 and there’s just so much going on. This doesn’t account for shoes outside of the Adidas family that I have and still use like the Endorphin Speed and first iteration of the Superblast.
      A very exciting shoe for the brand, but probably something I’ll end up passing on.

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад +1

      You’ll be interested in my SL2 vs SNR video coming up next on the channel…. I have quite a few thoughts to get into and for is one of the main ones….

    • @elliotendures
      @elliotendures Месяц назад

      @@SagasuRunning Oh before this video came out, I was already waiting for that comparison. I’m confident they’re quite different shoes and could be complimentary, with the Rise for easy and long and the SL for moderate or easy with pickups and ability to stretch into tempo work. But the fit comparison will be interesting, in addition to the stability differences, which I gather are marked. I feel like this shoe will actually stand up well against the ES3, which is an all-time favorite for me.

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад +2

      @@elliotendures You know… I was thinking as I was editing this video that I may need to do a SL2 vs ES4 video as they both do the same thing… but that won’t be next week… maybe later this summer….

    • @elliotendures
      @elliotendures Месяц назад +1

      @@SagasuRunning Absolutely. That sort of lightweight trainer that can do easy, moderate and some tempo stuff. I think the awesome thing about the SL2, despite me likely not getting it, is that it adds a non-plated and not-max-stack option to that section of the market where the Endorphin Speed and even much taller shoes like the Superblast can easily live.

  • @jackkasperski2912
    @jackkasperski2912 Месяц назад

    Hi Chris! Thank you for taking us through the Takumi history. I still run in a pair of Takumi Sen 7's and have an additional new pair in its box. They are definitely hard core! Love them. I didn't know about the Takumi Ren. Interesting, indeed!

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад +1

      Wow, TS7s are classics at this point. keep those safe. I'm glad I could share something new here. 🤙🏻

    • @jackkasperski2912
      @jackkasperski2912 Месяц назад

      @SagasuRunning Chris! You always do. IMHO, you have the most interesting podcasts on RUclips. And, with the most integrity! Thank you for what you do!

    • @jackkasperski2912
      @jackkasperski2912 Месяц назад

      Plus, I have to add that the TS7's are the sexiest looking running shoes I've ever owned.

    • @jackkasperski2912
      @jackkasperski2912 Месяц назад

      Ah, but I admit the ASICS Sortiemagic RP6 come close in the looks categories. They are so much fun to run in! Plus, they are still available in the Japanese market and through the wonder of eBay!

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад +1

      I still see the Sortiemagic RP 6 on shoves here in Taiwan in the flagship Asics stores on occasion. If I see them again I’ll pick up a pair for a retro review. There definitely was a shared design language between the Japanese racing flats, cross brand, back in 2016/17.

  • @chapchappington2475
    @chapchappington2475 Месяц назад

    That navy colour-way is fantastic.

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад

      It does look good in a thumbnail and on camera....but I really want to white/red pair that is common.

  • @BernhardPlainer-fq5hv
    @BernhardPlainer-fq5hv Месяц назад

    Thanks for the great stories. Particularly like the use case tempo chart. Makes it obvious to me that the Adios 8 is kind of unnecessary (I like that shoe a lot) if you have the three others. And even more, it totally makes sense to have a full and plateless A9. With that being said, I personally see adidas to rethink the positioning of the Boston model in the future (if they keep all other models for 2025 and beyond).

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад +1

      I agree with you. The A8 was great, but is rather useless at the moment. The SL2 and TS10 eclipse it in all ways right now. So the move from Adidas to make the A9 just LSP (no plate, but it's unclear if it has a midfoot shank) makes more sense now. Having the option between a TS10 and the A9 will be great.
      I may do a video on the future of the Boston series...it's the ONLY 2024 Adizero shoe we have seen zero leaks on...which makes me thing there may not be one. Also with all the new models and revised legacy models Adidas has done this year there is more overlap in Adidas running than ever before...
      Let me do some digging on this....but keep your eyes out for a video possibly in late July or early august on this.

  • @eby61mss
    @eby61mss Месяц назад

    Nice vid, you didn’t even mention price which apparently this shoe is bang for the buck 👍 if I’m in the market, the SL2 vs Pegs41 for daily trainer?

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад +1

      I do t often talk about out price as my audience is global and pricing is different everywhere.
      As for the SL2 over the Peg41…. Stay tuned, I’ll have a “vs” video up midweek comparing the two shows and discussing them….

  • @ernestpelser8768
    @ernestpelser8768 Месяц назад

    I now have 800 km in my SL 1, and it is still going strong, almost no midsole deterioration, I would say it is better that out of the box. Hopefully the SL2 will be just as durable.

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад +1

      I don't see why the SL2 won't do the same as well. The Adiwear rubber on my Supernova Rise, after 323km, shows some wear but nothing detrimental to getting another 300-400km out of them.

  • @Jarrod.10
    @Jarrod.10 23 дня назад +1

    I really liked the underfoot feel but the insole created a lot of hot spots and the way the two foams are layered creates a pressure point in my arches, which my arches are quite high so i don’t usually have that issue

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  22 дня назад

      Interesting. I've not heard anyone mention this issue on this shoe yet. I wonder if after 40-50k if the shoe breaks in enough and molds to your foot shape...where the issues goes away or disappears?

    • @Jarrod.10
      @Jarrod.10 22 дня назад +1

      @@SagasuRunning yeah I hadn’t heard it happen to anyone else either. And it was only on the left foot, but it was right at the midfoot. It was a shame because I liked the shoe.

  • @MiracleWarriors
    @MiracleWarriors Месяц назад

    The Adizero SL left my forefoot sore almost after every time I ran on then. But I still kept running for a total of 250km before donating my pair.
    I overpronate, but the shoes were stable enough for me. I just did not like that pocket idea for the LiteStrike Pro that was probably not lying correctly under my forefoot and that is why I was extremely sore in the first 5 runs before my feet started to get used to it. Anyways, super close to the ground Adizero Adios 3,4,5 never left my feet sore ...
    I will give these SL2 a try ! Especially since Adidas is no longer bringing the "normal " Adios to my country.
    Only selected markets got tge Adios 8 and will get Adios 9 along side tge Adizero SL2.

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад +1

      If you are a mid foot or heel striker and pronate...but careful in these (as I said in the video) otherwise they are much more cushioned than the SL. Way less harsh.
      It does sound like the upcoming Adios 9 might be your shoe. Hopefully they finally come to your country (Brazil right?).

  • @subhi2698
    @subhi2698 Месяц назад

    bro not pregnant but he delivered everytime!
    very interesting comparison to TS and looking at it now makes more sense.
    Questions :
    1.I haven't buy the SL2 yet, waiting for nicer colorway, but I went to the store and tried it, infact the LS here is much softer than LS2.0 in Boston12 right of, my question is, I am now liking my Boston12 as more miles gets into them, the foam really fun to run in and its gets softer and fun I would say, the question is , in term of foam softness, Do you see SL2 will even be more soft and softer to the point it become mushy when you put your miles into them?
    2.Next is that, since you said that B12 is become the "kinda you dont need" given SL2 exist, how this you anticipate on Adidas line up in future?
    3.SL2 is definitely more padded, how does it feels running on hot days? Any hotspots and how you clean them, I bet it might take a while to dry.
    4.In term of product design and marketing ,why hasn't this shoe been marketed as much as I would like to see in Adizero line up, maybe not in my country, but I often see other ahoes been pushed by Adidas recently, not sure the reason but maybe you have some interesting idea ?
    5.Yes this not the B12, how does the LSPRO insert different from LSPRO stacked in B12? Sometimes I felt like companies now are so in bed with the ideas of dual foam setup but don't really explain to us their decision or logic of it? They be like, whats our idea for next shoes, "dual foam" YES, then they just think of way of making it "different" than the rest and then market it as "this is the way". Just wanna know the logic of this shoe.
    6. Last but not least, Long Runs, do you see this shoe able to help witb long progressive run lets say 20kplus? Or perhaps thats why the Boston still relevant.
    Sorry asking too much as I been waiting this and still has so much to ask! 😅
    Best shoe talk so far!

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад

      1). I'm not sure...need more time into them to see. LS/LS2 is usually pretty stable. The softness I always felt in the B12 was the LSP breaking in, not from the LS2 changing much.
      2). The Boston still has a spot as a tempo trainer, especially over longer runs than the Takumi Sen is intended for (i.e. marathon training). My point was more that what people were using it for last year, as a "super trainer" and easy running is no longer needed. They will be better off doing most of that running in the SL2 and reserving the B12 for tempo/threshold running, especially if they don't have/like the TS10.
      3). I've noticed no hot spots or over-heating and my last two runs were in 32c and 34c temps with high humidity. All shoes will be hot and fill with sweat in these temps, these are no different but also nothing out of the ordinary.
      4). I have no idea why Adidas global isn't promoting this shoe. There has been ZERO from the Herzo HQ on this one in anyway. It is an olympic year, which makes thigns confused usually...but still. Only Adidas Japan is promoting this shoe in Japan.
      5). The LSP configuration in the B12 (and A8) is better IMO. It gives you the Adizero toe off feeling and puts more LSP under your foot. However, for a entry level/all around trainer the configuration of the SL2 makes sense and works for what they shoe is intended for...and the midsole update in the SL2 is surprisingly energetic.
      6). It can do a 20k run...but a true long run, like over 32k....I'd use the Supernova Rise or my race shoe (Adios pro 3) for that but shorter runs under 20k, this shoe is ideal.
      🤙🏻

    • @subhi2698
      @subhi2698 Месяц назад +1

      @@SagasuRunning Always appreciate your answers in detailed!

  • @WiseGuyFTW
    @WiseGuyFTW Месяц назад

    Great insights! Thank You!
    I am having lateral heel pain around achilles insertion point in Supernova Rise. I don't know why Adidas is making the heel base uneven. Why encourage the foot ro roll in a certain way, it does not make sense to me. I still went ahead and ordered SL2 and the foam feel great, hope I can keep the heel pain at bay by rotating among different shoes.
    I love what Adidas have been doing with their foams, lightstrike pro is my favorite foam out of all modern foams that I have tried so far but I wish they stop doing these crazy 'innovations' on the geometry of the outsole.
    I wish there was a Hoka clifton with Lightstrike Pro foam :D

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад +1

      The SNR definitely has an extreme lateral heel bevel, much more extreme than the SL2. Though they both have it, moslty due to Adidas engineering trying to capture and channel the lateral side of the heel to move the foot forward into the midfoot. It works beautifully for me when I heel strike, but that is (no longer) my normal foot strike.
      Ugh, a Hoka Clifton with LSP makes me want to cry just thinking about...🤣

    • @WiseGuyFTW
      @WiseGuyFTW Месяц назад

      @@SagasuRunning Haha! I love the construction of the Hoka shoes, I have run many ultra distances in those shoes and I have never had any overuse injuries or strain in Hokas. Clifton has been my go to shoe because I often run on roads and light trails and clifton has good enough traction for both. What I hate about clifton is the foam and how it sinks and have no energy return, my legs are beaten up for a day after running in Clifton and I think it is becasue of the EVA.
      Lightstrike pro for me has been a perfect balance of comfort and energy return, it feels amazing and fun to run in SL2. So that is why I would love hoka to move away from their boring EVA to a more modern foam like the lighstrike pro.

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад +1

      You have the Hoka foot ther I definitely don’t. I can barely make it 10k on a run or 100k over the life of a Hoka before I have massive issues with them or my feet/legs.
      Adidas though…. I never have had any issue with their midsoles. Uppers, yes… midsoles no…

  • @Bodhished
    @Bodhished Месяц назад

    I have all 3 of those shoes, except takumi Sen 8 instead of 10 and largely agree, except Boston 12 is better for longer efforts.
    Have used all in 5k parkrun and ts8 got my PB. SL 2 did ok last week and not bad for faster efforts.
    However I would size up half a size in the SL 2 over other adizero. I'm 11 US in the Prime X strung 1, Boston 12 and takumi Sen 8 and went 11 in the SL 2 and could do with 11.5US. Definitely recommend half size up.

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад

      I agree, the B12 is better for longer efforts. Then again, anything over 20k I'm going to do in my marathon racer (VF3 or AP3) so as good as the B12 is, it will keep getting eclipsed for me.

  • @snowwalker9999
    @snowwalker9999 Месяц назад

    Yes, If one has the SL2 and the Sen 8/9/10 Boston 12 would be redundant unless all you do with it is one day a week long runs. For that I have the DN2 and Superblast.

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  29 дней назад +1

      The B12/DN2/SB all seem to cover the same ground...it's a pick what you like best. As for the Takumi Sen, sure 8/9/10 all work...but the TS10 is in a league of its own.

    • @snowwalker9999
      @snowwalker9999 29 дней назад +1

      @@SagasuRunning I'll watch your video on Sen 10

  • @andreechavez9010
    @andreechavez9010 Месяц назад

    Hi there, my first comment over your channel! love your work. Let me ask you a question. I´m working on my training for my first marathon and I dont usually use supershoes with plate for any training, do you recomend this Adizero SL2 for long runs (I would say, 25km to more)? thanks! If not, wich options do you recomend, without plate, thanks!

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад

      What do you currently train in? What’s your foot strike? How many kms do you run a week?

    • @andreechavez9010
      @andreechavez9010 Месяц назад

      @@SagasuRunning Im working to run the Buenos Aires Marathon 42km in September. Forefoot strike. 60 to 65km per week now. thanks for the quick reply! I adopted the strategy to not use plate tennis, just to feel the power of the supershoe only in any competitions (Currently I have the VF3)

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад

      What shoes are you currently running in for training?

    • @andreechavez9010
      @andreechavez9010 Месяц назад

      @@SagasuRunning Pegasus 39, Mizuno wave rider 26 (these 2 are my principals), Nike zoom fly 4 (I rarely use this one) and for very easy runs winflo 7

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад

      Then the SL2 would be a good option for you. It’s more stripped down than you’d expect…. Buts it’s very durable and great. You may also want to look at the Adidas Supernova Rise…. Check out my comparison video of the two shoes to really see what is best for you.

  • @macoyupadoodle
    @macoyupadoodle Месяц назад

    I want that color !

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад +2

      I love the how but not a fan of this colorway. I’m looking forward to one of the white colorways finally showering up here.

  • @robbarnett524
    @robbarnett524 Месяц назад +1

    Hi Chris, great video as always. I was thinking of picking up the SL2 as a non-plated interval shoe (mainly because heel design of previous adizero shoes cause me issues). Do you think its snappy enough for those type workouts?

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад +2

      Yes, especially so for a non-plated shoe. It’s very good.

    • @robbarnett524
      @robbarnett524 Месяц назад +1

      @@SagasuRunning excellent. Thanks for the quick response. Seems a no brainer for the price. Especially as I can't find the Rebel v4 anywhere in my size!

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад +2

      The SL2 is so SO much better than the Rv4…. Better foam, better geometry, way better upper…. Better for…. Better everything…..

    • @robbarnett524
      @robbarnett524 Месяц назад

      @@SagasuRunning 😂 thanks for clarifying! I am bit of a rebel fanboy, loved v2 and v3. Might be time to go back to adidas now heel design looks kinder for my feet. Not had an adidas shoe since adios 6

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад +1

      I loved the Rebel v1 and the v2…. Not so much the v3….. and the v4 is a total failure, not a Rebel at all.

  • @TolunayOrkun
    @TolunayOrkun 23 дня назад

    I think Adizero SL2 is a great value. I am pretty impressed. I really wish Adidas produce a version of this shoe (say, SL2 Pro) with entire Lightstrike Pro midsole like in Takumi Sen 8/9/10 but with upper and outsole of this shoe. I would be willing to spend more for that shoe. I enjoy my Takumi Sen 8s (3 pairs, 1 retired) but outsole is not designed for training (doesn't last for me) Maybe Boston will evolve into that adopting full Lighstrike Pro midsole.
    Speaking of Adizero Pro, I retired mine recently after more than 500k. I think I used mine mostly on track when I needed a higher drop shoe to rest my calves. That was my first carbon plated shoe and was pretty durable. The foam and the plate eventually softened. I think it would be a better shoe without the plate. My second carbon plated shoe was Saucony Endorphin Pro 1. That was much better than Adizero Pro (thanks to PEBA foam) but still pretty stiff vs Endorphin Speed 1. When I got my Alphafly OG, it was a huge difference in cushion, and energy return. Anyway, brands have come a long way, now difference in performance is smaller than ever.

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  22 дня назад +1

      I too would love to see the shoe as full LSP, but don't think we will see it. Adidas seems very clear that a "full" LSP or LSPE (or combo of the two) midsole is for racing and LSP + LS2 is training. The closest we will get to this will be the Adios 9, which has a full LSP midsole. That one should be great.
      500k on the Adizero Pro...wow. You may be the only one EVER to do that. To be fair to that shoe though...if one thought of it as a long distance track flat it made sense (in some ways). But still... The only other shoe I can think of that is as brutal to run in as the Adizero pro is the new Deviate Nitro 3.

    • @TolunayOrkun
      @TolunayOrkun 22 дня назад

      @@SagasuRunning Adios 9 with full LSP would be great.
      I thinking Adidas might incorporate some LSPE foam into next Adios Pro making it more justifiable to incorporate full LSP into training shoes afterwards. That trend might be starting with Adios 9. I think training shoes with more build up uppers and more and thicker rubber outsole might not compete with the racing shoes in the family but would upgrade the training shoes vs competitors who are starting to use PEBA and PEBA Blend foams in the performance training category.

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  22 дня назад

      I agree we will see LSPE in the AP4 (I think you’ll see a core of it above the plate, similar to the layup for the Endorphin Pro 4 midsole.
      However I disagree on the point that we will ever see full LSP trainers. Remember the Adios is a race shoe for Adidas, specially it’s a race flat still. So it getting LSP makes full sense.
      But we will see LSP pop up in more shoes in larger quantities. The SL2 is a good example in the Adizero range and the Adistar BYD is a good example outside of the Adistar range. But in both of those shoes there is always a carrier foam. That won’t change anytime soon.

    • @TolunayOrkun
      @TolunayOrkun 22 дня назад

      @@SagasuRunning Yes, Adios line was the racing shoe before Adios Pro came to existence. Currently, as I see it, that role is now covered by Adios Pro, Adios Pro Evo and Takumi Sen. Arguably, recent Adios had been delegated to training role. Of course that can change...
      For me Adios 9 with full LSP would take over the workouts I had been doing with Takumi Sen 8 if they keep the current outsole on that shoe.

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  22 дня назад +1

      @TolunayOrkun I can see that logic…. But I guarantee adidas does not see it that way. The Adios and Adios Pro lines are the marquee racers, always.
      Practically though…. The A8 was a great easy run shoe and had decent durability as a trainer. The A9 looks more “racey” and less durable, but time will tell. I cannot wait to get a pair though.
      I’m curious it is will take back the role from the TS10 for me or I’ll use them together. Again, can’t wait to test them all.

  • @ZanLeung
    @ZanLeung Месяц назад

    Great review! I have the Takumi Sen 10 for track intervals and I'm looking for a new daily trainer. I was wondering if the Adizero SL2 would be the best match with the Takumi Sen 10 over something like the Asics Novablast 4?

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад +2

      SL2 all the way… both to pair with the TS10 AND it is a much better shoe than the NB4….

    • @ZanLeung
      @ZanLeung Месяц назад

      @@SagasuRunning Good to know! Thanks!

    • @TimGrose
      @TimGrose Месяц назад +1

      @@SagasuRunning Looking at my shoe weights chart the NB4 isn't that much heavier than the SL2 (and the NB3 was pretty much identical) but it feels more like a cushy plodder to me in comparison to the SL2. Might be a useful video in its own right when somebody says x is better than y what is really meant by better. I equated the SL2 more to the Rebel v4, Mach 6 in being lightweight plate less "do it all" trainers although the NB4 perhaps ought to be in that conversation. Personally I find the Speed 4 has a similar use case to the SL2 so probably would include that as well in your comparisons.

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад +1

      The SL2 has MUCH better foams than the NB4. Yes, the ES4 is also in the same area as the SL2…. So much so I’m considering a “vs” video in the coming weeks.

  • @hernan0201
    @hernan0201 Месяц назад

    Nice matix! Just wondering where the supernova rise would sit?

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад +1

      Stay tuned for my next video. 🤙🏻

  • @kapuzineraffe88
    @kapuzineraffe88 22 дня назад

    Hi i am binging your videos lately haha. I am a true Adidas fan and only running in adidas. at the moment i rotate between supernova for easy and boston 12 for treshold/tempo. Adizero pro 3 for racing and intervals. at 77-81kg i need just a bit of stability. but youre making me really hyped for the SL 2... my boston and supernova both have 400-500km now and i am looking for a new one. do you think the SL2 is a switch and for what type of shoe?
    my easy or Z2 runs are ranging from 5:30-6:30 with some strides. treshold/tempo is more 3:50-5-min per kilometer.
    i am 186 with 80kgs atm and a good amount of muscles

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  21 день назад +1

      The SL2 is worth a try, but if you need medial stability (pronation) of any type it really could be an issue. I'm around 77kgs and have no issue with the SL2, so it should hold up for you. I've also run a bit of 3:50/km pace in the SL2 (1k reps) and it feels quite good, surprisingly so.
      Thank you for watching the content! I appreciate it.

    • @kapuzineraffe88
      @kapuzineraffe88 21 день назад

      @@SagasuRunning okay so maybe a switch for the Boston 12 then.

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  21 день назад

      You already have a pair and know how they work for you. The SL2 is outstanding but it benefits from working with a plated tempo shoe…. Either the B12 or TS10. They are very different shoes…. But compliment one another well. Similar to how the SNR and B12 work together…. Just better.

    • @kapuzineraffe88
      @kapuzineraffe88 21 день назад

      @@SagasuRunning ah okay get it- so either Supernova or sl2 in combination with b12/ts10 and adios pro 3 for Racing

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  21 день назад

      @@kapuzineraffe88 Yes.

  • @brianreiter5572
    @brianreiter5572 Месяц назад

    “super leicht” is all relative. But they do appear light for a daily trainer which is generally what I’m looking for. A lot of daily trainers suck at size 13. I used to just use the Streak and Streak LT for everything.
    The relationship that you observed with the TS10 is really interesting. They do look like they share a design language. Actually it looks more like the TS8 if I’m honest because the heel collar and “blinker” in the TS8 and Pro 2 were more like this. I’m still eking out a few speed sessions in my TS8 as we are having epic rain in Abidjan and I am still babying my white TS10. I’ll give it a go especially with the $30 summer discount it is $100 less than another pair of TS Eliot.

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад

      It IS all relative. SL seems universal language-wise though.
      I do see TS8 in the SL2, for sure. The "ivory" TS10 upper material is surprisingly resistant to stains and road grime in the wet, I've done quite a bit of wet running in them. The only thing that really affects them is red clay...

    • @brianreiter5572
      @brianreiter5572 Месяц назад

      That red clay stain is the problem. West African soils are basically sand mixed with red laterite clay. I’m being a bit twee about it.
      It just so happens that “super” from Latin is universal in European language. Those Romans got around and were influential.
      The Latin cognates for levius in Romance languages and the old German līht in Germanic languages both start with L. SL is universal European shorthand.
      Italian: super leggero
      Spanish: super ligero
      French: super léger
      German: super leicht
      Dutch: super licht
      Danish: super let

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад

      Here in Taiwan there is a lot of iron in the soil, at least up here in Taipei that is mixed with various limestone, sand and volcanic ash that makes a cake that sticks to every shoe outside and stains white uppers and many midsoles. Generally not an issue for road running here…. But trail running definitely.
      Interesting etymology of the term…. Fascinating. 👏🏻

    • @brianreiter5572
      @brianreiter5572 21 час назад

      It took 5 weeks but the SL 2 arrived today in Abidjan. The weight is almost exactly the same as my SL20.2 sample and 25g less than the TS Eliot and 40g less than a Peg 37 (my last Peg). Size 13US. Actual weights 295g and 294g.

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  18 часов назад

      @brianreiter5572 How do they feel?

  • @pbmke
    @pbmke Месяц назад

    Thank you for the review,
    For the Takumi Sen 10, you said that you needed to go up one size, it is the same for you for this model ?

    • @pbmke
      @pbmke Месяц назад

      Also what do you think of the drop of the shoe as a daily trainer ? The drop of the Boston 12 (6,5) is closer to the one of the Takumi Sen 10 (6), where the drop of the SL2 is 9mm, could this be a big change for training ?
      I am looking for a daily trainer shoe when I am not using the Takumi Sen basically, and hesitating between Bostons or SL

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад +1

      Half a size in the TS10 and no, not the same in the SL2. I went TTS.

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад +1

      Honestly I don’t notice a difference…. But on a weekly basis I’m running shoes form 0-10mm, mostly 6-8mm though…. So it’s rare I really notice a difference. The SL2 very much feels like a companion to the TS10 on foot… all around.

    • @pbmke
      @pbmke Месяц назад

      @@SagasuRunning Thank you for your answer ✌

  • @matthiassventoest6800
    @matthiassventoest6800 Месяц назад

    trainer version of the takumi sen..? I am sold

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад

      I feel like many people would be if Adidas positioned it that way...

  • @TimLSim
    @TimLSim Месяц назад

    I think it is clear that between the SL2 and the Pegasus 41, the SL2 is the obvious choice especially for those who are disappointed with the recent Pegasus releases for that all around daily trainer.

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад

      If it's a modern performance trainer you ant, then yes, the SL2 is the one. However, there are a few more things to consider. It's not exactly black and white. I'll have a comparison us in the next day or two between the SL2 vs Peg41.

  • @heickc
    @heickc Месяц назад +1

    Since you have both Supernova Rise and this SL2, how would you put them in your shoes rotation, i.e., what kind of running day would you pick SL2 and what kind of running day would you pick Supernova Rise ?

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад +6

      Stay tuned for my next video… it’s the SL2 vs SNR, should be out in the next 24-48hrs from this comment…. 🤙🏻

  • @user-xx5oo7mj4u
    @user-xx5oo7mj4u Месяц назад

    Takeaway from this video is: SL2 trainer to Takumi Sen 10 ( from 5K races up to a half marathon)
    The Boston 12 may still be a sensible option for a full marathon training block as a trainer for the Adios Pro 3?
    How is the fit lengthwise? On Boston 12 and Adios Pro 3 I am a size 9.5US but on Takumi Sen I am a size 10US?
    I am not allowed to run for six weeks as my physio advised. MRI test later this week to determine whether meniscus tear or just ITB problem on lateral left knee.

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад

      Yup...you understood my point perfectly.
      Lengthwise the SL2 is TTS, my normal US9...for the TS10 I had to go up half a size to US9.5 to get the same fit.

  • @kuochenhan
    @kuochenhan Месяц назад +1

    How's upper's breathability, especially considering the hot and humid summer in Taiwan?

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад +2

      Very very good. The Peg41 is better and the Takumi Sen 10 is even better…. But no problems here.

  • @michael-qp9xd
    @michael-qp9xd Месяц назад

    Hi - good info here. You mention that back area of shoe has overlay that is just cosmetic. So just looks but for me the look adds nothing to improve shoe appearance. Yes is very minor in weight but why add if just for no real look improvement. Wonder what else added this way. So not to consider for daily trainer. Thanks for good full analysis all shoe aspects.

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад

      The "blinker", as Adidas calls is, is technically a pull tab to help you get the shoe on. It's been part of the Adidas Adizero running design language for many years now. Though in 2024 it does seem to be evolving either into a new form or out of the design language all together.

  • @hommefield9612
    @hommefield9612 Месяц назад

    What does the full length LSP sandwiched into LS 2.O feel like? I loved the step-in feel and the firmness of the last year’s SL when running. Kofuzi compared the SL2 to VN3, which is not a plush ride.

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад +1

      The SL1 and the VN3 have similar rides. Both are firm yet cushioned. The VN3 has a better midsole and foam layup design though.
      The SL2 is a more cushioned and slightly softer ride then either. Not mushy or squishy…. But more flexible and the energy return of the LSP slab is very noticeable.
      I’ll have my comparison between the SL2 and VN3 out later this week.

    • @hommefield9612
      @hommefield9612 Месяц назад

      @@SagasuRunning Nice to hear that the SL2 is not squishy but more flexible 👍

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад

      @hommefield9612 Definitely not squishy, even though Adidas is soften out all of heir running shoes, they still run with a firm/cushioned ride.

  • @subhi2698
    @subhi2698 Месяц назад

    YEYYE

  • @Mr---mr4ll
    @Mr---mr4ll Месяц назад

    I returned my peg 41’s and bought these….
    Trust me when I say
    I made the right choice 👍

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад

      They are very different. I'll have my SL2 vs Peg41 video on mid week. Stay tuned.

  • @fantasmasd
    @fantasmasd Месяц назад

    How does the use case compare to the Supernova Rise? Will you do a comparison video?

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад +1

      Next video on the channel will be this video. Stay tuned.

  • @samng5404
    @samng5404 Месяц назад

    Thanks for sharing, I am from HK. The temp. & humidity are like Taiwan. Can you share your heart rate training of easy run? It seems really hard to slow down the HR under high humidity.

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад

      My HR definitely drifts more in the high temps/humidity. If you are on Strava, follow my Strava and you can see for yourself; ttps://www.strava.com/athletes/14151706
      I also did a video on Heat Training and running on a cooler climate here (data is a little older now, but in the same ranges);
      Heat Training - Does it actually improve your running performance? ruclips.net/video/O7z-pNeIWzc/видео.html

    • @samng5404
      @samng5404 Месяц назад

      Yes. I’ve seen the episode, nice illustration. I’ve just followed your Strava. I surprise your easy HR zone can maintain 120~130.👍

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад

      120-140 is is “easy” for me in Taipei heat. In cooler weather closer to 130 is preferred. I’m not strict with HR zones because of the climate I’m in and the fact that I often travel to a cooler one suddenly. Also I am going by a wrist based HR monitor (Apple Watch Ultra) which isn’t the most accurate but good enough and consistent for what I need it for.
      LOE is what I run by more in the summer, with HR as a secondary data point. If it feels too hard I back off immediately as I know the Taipei summer heat and humidity will smack me down fast. I’ve learned that lesson a few times. 🥵

  • @robertoflores2786
    @robertoflores2786 Месяц назад

    You say you don’t really need the Boston 12. But which should would YOU pick to do it all, Boston 12 or SL2 ?

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад

      SL2...as I need a shoe for easy/slower running, which the B12 isn't good for. I'll always pair one shoe with a race shoe...the race shoe will always be for fast training AND racing for me. So a SL2+TS10 or AP3 (depending on your race distance) covers all bases.

  • @Vu-lq5se
    @Vu-lq5se Месяц назад

    Much more exciting innovative release than a Pegasus.

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад

      Both are exciting, but for different reasons.

  • @zixednatz
    @zixednatz 26 дней назад

    I bought the previous SL version last year for only $60, and it's now 1,100kms. Outsole a bit worn out but I'm using it only the treadmill. Im still thinking of buying the old version still on sale or if I should try the SL2.

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  26 дней назад +1

      The SL2 is SO much better. The SL was good. The SL2 is great.

    • @zixednatz
      @zixednatz 26 дней назад

      @@SagasuRunning awesome. My wife just bought me and our 8yr old son a pair of SL2. I wish i could share the pictures with you :-)

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  26 дней назад

      @zixednatz Enjoy them. 🤙🏻

  • @cgazlan
    @cgazlan Месяц назад +1

    I'm jealous of the colorway. Here its only available in white and thats is what i bought

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад +3

      Wanna trade? Hahaha. I really don’t like this color way and really want that white and red one everyone has.

    • @cgazlan
      @cgazlan Месяц назад +1

      @@SagasuRunning haha... That's why beauty is subjective 😅

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад +1

      Very much. To be honest, I do think the navy one looks better in a thumbnail than the white one.

    • @brianreiter5572
      @brianreiter5572 Месяц назад

      I went for black/black/fruitstripe as I think they will be resistant to the African dust stain.

  • @dna1238
    @dna1238 Месяц назад

    How does it compare to the Supernova Rise which you gave the thumbs up to ?

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад +1

      Watch my next video...it will be the "vs" video between the SL2 and SNR.

  • @edmundovilladelreyiii2444
    @edmundovilladelreyiii2444 24 дня назад

    How does Adizero SL2 compare with Puma Deviate Nitro 2? If I have to go only 1 shoe, which of them would be more versatile?

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  24 дня назад +1

      I've never run in the DN2... but the SL2 does everything, very well. It's also not plated so a much better idea for a daily trainer.

  • @camonly849
    @camonly849 Месяц назад

    I loved these shoes....had to return them unfortunately as it was to narrow around mid foot. It was weird, never had a shoe like that before...other than that they felt great. I think I'll try a different adidas pair. Anyone else had this issue?

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад

      The midfoot has very little support and narrows considerably. It’s honestly not that surprising. Watch one or two of my “vs” video coming up on this channel for some more on this…. I’ll cover this underlying issue in three different ways.

    • @camonly849
      @camonly849 Месяц назад +1

      @SagasuRunning I shall be on the look out! Thank you!

  • @ZaahirJappie
    @ZaahirJappie 12 дней назад

    Hi. My current SL1 is a 9-UK and theres about an index finger space infront. What would the right size be for the SL2? There are none in store yet, but i'd like to order 1 online.

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  12 дней назад +1

      I’d say TTS. I don’t remember the fit of the SL1 in detail but lengthwise o don’t remember it being much different then the SL2. Maybe look for a reviewer who compares the SL1 & 2 and references it.

    • @ZaahirJappie
      @ZaahirJappie 12 дней назад +1

      @@SagasuRunning Thank you for that.

  • @jayfernandez3770
    @jayfernandez3770 Месяц назад

    need to size up with this one, it's so narrow compared to the fit of adios pro 3

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад

      I don’t find it narrow at all…. But compared to the AP3 the forefoot is narrower. But the AP3 is fairly wide and generous forefoot fit, especially for a super shoe.

    • @jayfernandez3770
      @jayfernandez3770 Месяц назад

      @@SagasuRunning yea little bit narrow in forefoot but more narrow for me on the middle to forefoot area, adios pro 3 fit perfect for me.

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад

      Interesting. Do you run in the Boston 12 too? If so, how’s the fit for you?

  • @giffarmasabih8108
    @giffarmasabih8108 Месяц назад

    How is this compared to Asics NB 4?
    Im leaning towards this shoe for its weight and versatility

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад

      They really don't. As much as I like the NB4, its only really good as a cushioned trainer for easy running and maybe some tempo running, not much more, too much foam and too much rocker. The SL2 is much more versatile across more types of running and far more performance oreinted.

    • @giffarmasabih8108
      @giffarmasabih8108 Месяц назад

      @@SagasuRunning so for a beginner runner that want a do it all shoe, which one would you recommend?
      Is this still better?

  • @rossbarnard7882
    @rossbarnard7882 Месяц назад

    Would this be a better overall daily trainer than the Asics Novablast 4 ?

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад

      Yes, much more versatile. The NB4 is great but it's only really useful for easy running and maybe some tempo running at times. Other than that it's too much shoe and rocker for workouts and anything all out.
      Keep in mind the SL2 doesn't have a removable insole and is much more performance oriented. The comparison to the NB4 is more apples to oranges.

  • @brianreiter5572
    @brianreiter5572 Месяц назад

    And they are discounting $30 in the US online store.

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад

      The sales on Adidas/us have been random and large as of late… so great deals there.

  • @bbartel1978
    @bbartel1978 Месяц назад

    Wish they would use a removable insole. Some of us need specific adjustments to not be in pain.

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад +1

      I'm going to talk about this in my SL2 vs SNR comparison video...stay tuned.

    • @bbartel1978
      @bbartel1978 Месяц назад

      @@SagasuRunning what does SNR stand for?

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад

      Supernova Rise

  • @LukaMagic-hg3dk
    @LukaMagic-hg3dk 11 дней назад

    have you run more than 18 miles per week on this shoe, or have you tried more than 21km running on this shoe

  • @gogigp
    @gogigp Месяц назад +1

    Best buy in adidas line, now reinvent Rise crap:)

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад

      The Rise is an incredible shoe, possibly she of the year for me. Both are good but serve different purposes and runners. Though they can (and should) be used together.

    • @gogigp
      @gogigp Месяц назад

      @@SagasuRunning sry, I don't see dreamstrike and rise as success. But I am a fan of 1080 so.... Possibly that's why. Of any Adidas shoe will attack Pegasus and succeed, it will be more Sl2 than rise.

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад +1

      I have some “vs” videos coming out this week getting into both of these topics. Stay tuned.

  • @DillonJan
    @DillonJan 27 дней назад

    Does the SL2 fit similar to the Sen 10?

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  26 дней назад

      Much more generous. It’s a training fit. Additionally I went TTS in the SL2 and had to go up half a size in the TS10.

  • @lucasadao1364
    @lucasadao1364 14 дней назад

    Can I use them for 5k, 10k, 15k races?

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  13 дней назад

      Yup, great option for that. Especially if you don't want to race in a plated shoe.

  • @DHarbajan
    @DHarbajan Месяц назад

    Would you recommend this for a heavier runner?

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад

      Define heavier? What do you currently run in?

    • @DHarbajan
      @DHarbajan Месяц назад

      @@SagasuRunning I’m 295lbs, currently have the brooks adrenaline gts 23

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад +2

      @DHarbajan Oh! In that case I’m going g to stay no. You will crush this shoe nearly instantly. It’s definitely a stripped down performance trainer not made for that type of weight. Of Adidas though… you may want to take a look at the Adistar BYD… that shoe just might hold up for you.

    • @DHarbajan
      @DHarbajan Месяц назад +1

      @@SagasuRunning thank you for the time and advice!

  • @kawan5851
    @kawan5851 24 дня назад

    What about breathability?. Is it good?.

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  24 дня назад

      Yes. I’ve been running mostly in 30-34c humid weather and no issues.

    • @kawan5851
      @kawan5851 24 дня назад

      @@SagasuRunning ok thanks.

  • @jw_25
    @jw_25 Месяц назад

    I got one Monday last week and I can't take it off.

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад +2

      Is that good or bad?

    • @jw_25
      @jw_25 Месяц назад

      @@SagasuRunning Very good. I kept reaching for these every day.

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад

      Nice. Nice! 👍🏻

  • @Wings_nut
    @Wings_nut Месяц назад +1

    Everything you ever wanted to know about the SL2, and then some.

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад +1

      Always! You should know this by now. 🤓

    • @Wings_nut
      @Wings_nut Месяц назад +1

      @@SagasuRunning And that's what brings us back 🙂

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад

      @Wings_nut 🖤✔️🤙🏻

  • @nizam_mr
    @nizam_mr Месяц назад

    Hmm...
    in terms of midsole feel for cushion n energy propulsion, where does SL2 sit among Novablas4 n NBrebel4? in between? or towards/above either 1 spectrum?

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад +1

      Well...it's better than both. FFBlast+ is jsut squaishy and has low resiliency and the foam in the NB Rebel v4 is just a mushy mess. Neither can even remotely match Lightstrike Pro, even a core of it sandwiched in a EVA carrier.

  • @jermainepostlethwaite7895
    @jermainepostlethwaite7895 Месяц назад

    9 mm drop tho🤷🏾‍♀️

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад

      Not an issue at all. Plus the foam is so compressive it’s likely actually closer to 5-6mm.

  • @tomyang714
    @tomyang714 Месяц назад +2

    Got it for $80 in Taiwan and broke some PB when I was originally planning an easy or steady run. Could be just adrenaline of a new shoe but I love the way it feels underfeet, it was a huge pleasant surprise. It is like a Boston 12 without the upper and lacing issue. Factor in the price, it is the bargain of the year by far.

    • @SagasuRunning
      @SagasuRunning  Месяц назад

      Where did you get it for $80 in Taiwan? I got mine for MSRP of NT$3490 in the Xinyi Adidas flagship... though I know the Zhongshan boutique had a 20% sale last week across the store that included the SL2.

    • @tomyang714
      @tomyang714 Месяц назад

      @@SagasuRunning Sometimes the online platforms like momo and pchome, they have a lower starting price. In addition, they sometimes have platform promotion and credit card promotion. If you look now, there is still one selling at $2408 NTD atm.

    • @tomyang714
      @tomyang714 Месяц назад

      @SagasuRunning online platforms like momo has fluctuating prices. One is selling for $2408 atm. If you buy shoes often, then you can shop around and compare prices on some of the more trustworthy platforms.

    • @tomyang714
      @tomyang714 Месяц назад

      @@SagasuRunning on momo the online platform. My replies keep on getting deleted, hope you do get the message.