Exploring SpellHance Shaman build for Season Of Discovery

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  • Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
  • In this video i'll dicuss/therycraft if Shaman SpellHance build in Phase 2 of Season Of Discovery will be the best spec for enhencement shamans. Maelstrom weapon shaman rune will likely make Elemental spec the go-to for enhancement shamans.

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  • @andrewevans5678
    @andrewevans5678 7 месяцев назад +7

    Dual wielding 2 spell power weapons and the spec for 10% spell and melee hit might be interesting here. You are going to get so much more out of spell it hit than the Overload, imo. In a full level 60 ele build, you'd have 3% from resto and 10% from DWspec, getting you very close to cap without gear. being the Elemental Melee build, you're missing the 3% from resto but that even more incentivizes using DWspec rune. Also, i think the sleeper in the elemental build will be the fire nova rune, with Call of Flame/Improved fire totems/Elemental Fury. Even on single target fights, even before SoD, using FIre nova totem and then swapping to Magma Totem at the start of a fight is A LOT of dps. now that they can be a single totem that pulses both effects and pushing that damage as high as it can go is going to actually be a higher DPS gain than Maelstrom. Only time will tell...

    • @shjelde660
      @shjelde660  7 месяцев назад

      very interesting!, you might be right on that nova rune!

    • @goseals6
      @goseals6 6 месяцев назад

      This is very very similiar to the early wotlk days of spellhance. I did that for the wotlk classic release and the damage was nuts with fire nova even on single target. However, with the massive buff to stormstrike spellhance may not keep up at all.

  • @nejtan1
    @nejtan1 6 месяцев назад +3

    would be interested in a follow-up video now that phase 2 is out and MSW has been buffed :)

  • @user-gr3jd2fi1h
    @user-gr3jd2fi1h 7 месяцев назад +2

    Pure phys DW build is simming around 50-100 dps higher. Although it’s amazing to see how 2H is only around 5% behind DW.

  • @zillenlyu5309
    @zillenlyu5309 7 месяцев назад +1

    Good video man, and great idea. I had same idea then realized it's fun but much less damage if MW keep same 10 PPM as WLK with simple 2 facts:
    1. Even with haste in wlk, Enhancement can't do an instant cast within 8 sec. An instance Lava Burst will take much longer than it's cd. Then lava lash + light chain > Lava burst with enhance gear
    2. 30% speed 10% damage, enhanced weapon >>>> 9% crit. Not going to consider the huge 30% speed 10% damge, just a small enhanced weapon provide 93 ap , what does this mean. P1 bis enhance shaman get 135 ish ap from full bis gear.
    At the end of the day, I love this idea and hope Blizzard can further buff this like adding ap->sp, or maybe increase MW PPM to 30(well that's too crazy then)

    • @shjelde660
      @shjelde660  7 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah maybe you're right, maybe deep enhance is going to be the play for phase2. Maybe the hybrid spellhance can come online in phase 3/4 cause then you get the flurry for 30% weap speed aswell as ele fury?

  • @Whatzitmatter
    @Whatzitmatter 6 месяцев назад +1

    This could be a nice alternative for melee range friendly fights / PvP while not having to farm another entire gear set.

  • @krakca
    @krakca 6 месяцев назад

    Its not quite viable this phase yet. But will be starting phase3 with 21/20/0.
    Dualwield spec, Lava Burst, Maelstrom.
    Gearing like an ele for spellcrit without the restriction of needing any hit gear. +most new crit gear BEING BOTH MELEE AND SPELL!!
    Spellcrit triggers increased melee crit, that triggers flurry, triggering more maelstrom proccs. Positive feedback loop.
    Flametongue on OH for spellscaling and WF on MH for Maelstrom.
    Mana wont be an issue either.

  • @TommyBoyB
    @TommyBoyB 7 месяцев назад +1

    Very cool build! Inspired me to experiment with a tank version very similar to this.

  • @Barbery305
    @Barbery305 6 месяцев назад

    I'm no where near being able to start experimenting but I saw that they updated that 2H mace from SM to also have SP with 17 STR. Could be worth looking into

  • @Br34kdown
    @Br34kdown 7 месяцев назад +2

    Burnt out on spellhance from WOTLK. two handed enhance is all I need in my life I dont care how bad it is lol

    • @vallejos48
      @vallejos48 7 месяцев назад +2

      im mad they added maelstrom weapon rune, i dont want a wotlk enhan shaman here in sod, i want a tbc shaman with dual wield or a viable 2h version

  • @TrueMakaveli50
    @TrueMakaveli50 7 месяцев назад +3

    Manual Crowd Pummeler, Flurry, 2 hand rune, and the 10% from the new WB will be absolutely insane. Looking forward to trying it out.
    Even just 2h rune and flurry will be wild, 60% faster Corpsemaker for leveling? Sign me up

  • @Cyanoblades
    @Cyanoblades 7 месяцев назад +2

    They buffed SS, lowered mana cost and CD a ton. Pure Enh tree should be better.

    • @andreiserde9441
      @andreiserde9441 6 месяцев назад

      Doesn't Stormstrike hit like a wet noodle?
      Curious of its damage with a 2hander as opposed to 2wield.

  • @lerkinlarry2817
    @lerkinlarry2817 5 месяцев назад

    With p3 around the corner....could this be viable...id love to try it with my dual spec ...

  • @vgullotta
    @vgullotta 7 месяцев назад

    Man, just going to tell everyone our secrets now XD I think if you go Maelstrom weapon, you need to go two fast spellpower daggers and it will pop off. I think overload will beat out DW spec, but I get what you're saying there. You only lower your hit chance by 17% on your offhand when you dual wield, your main hand is still the normal melee hit chance. If you go power surge on the belt, I think you want the best caster weapon setup you can get and it's more of a straight ele build.

  • @soklot
    @soklot 7 месяцев назад

    For the 2h version Staff of Jordan would be insane.

  • @kevinbrantone3339
    @kevinbrantone3339 7 месяцев назад

    I was thinking of something like this for P2 it might not be meta, but I'm sure it's gonna be cool to play

  • @adamjacobs4209
    @adamjacobs4209 7 месяцев назад

    Golden scale gear and migraines might would be a great combo for this.... But you would miss out on stuff trying to get to 2 handed mastery

  • @trymv1578
    @trymv1578 4 месяца назад

    Btw got cheeky and tried a Fury > SS build in Sunken Temple last week and its BAD; like REALLY bad. You dont realize just how many stacks of Maelstrom you get from Storm Strike.
    There could maybe be a possibility of LvB topping LL at 60 but in no way should you not take Storm Strike in SoD.

    • @shjelde660
      @shjelde660  4 месяца назад

      Yea, since they changed the CD on stormstrike to 6 sec. I think it's always gonna be the play

  • @ArcGameTV
    @ArcGameTV 7 месяцев назад

    Stormstrike is now on a 6s cd and 6% mana cost and the debuff limit for the extra 20 nature damage has been removed so yeah with those buffs ss might be the play still but the build could still be good. We shall see next week

    • @sveekx
      @sveekx 7 месяцев назад

      where did you see that its a 6 second cd now instead of 20

    • @soklot
      @soklot 7 месяцев назад

      @@sveekx It's on Wowhead but the values are a bit weird to decipher. It doesn't actually say seconds or anything.

  • @The-Bone-Zone
    @The-Bone-Zone 6 месяцев назад

    I was interested in a similar idea, did you end up trying it? Could you make a followup video showing the spec and good/bad parts of it?

    • @shjelde660
      @shjelde660  6 месяцев назад

      im not lvl 40 yet on my shaman, i'll make a followup video once i hit 40 and test it in gnomer

  • @markmoore9237
    @markmoore9237 7 месяцев назад

    With AP not being transferred to SP or vice versa this build will never been anything more than a meme.

  • @mahtan2685
    @mahtan2685 6 месяцев назад

    current implementation:
    Windfury doesn't proc Maelstrom Weapon.
    Maelstrom Weapon resets the weapon swing timer, even at 5/5 stacks.
    Styles like Stormstrike and Lava Lash do not proc Maelstrom Weapon.

    • @shjelde660
      @shjelde660  6 месяцев назад

      Looks kinda bad for maelstrom right now...

    • @quinndle
      @quinndle 6 месяцев назад

      Yeah all of those limitations basically need to be removed for it to be decent and feel good to play

  • @double_joseph327
    @double_joseph327 7 месяцев назад

    Honestly do this build but all points into Ele. The talent points are just better then any of the enhance talents and you really don’t need them. Also, go for int gear. Would be awesome.

    • @adamjacobs4209
      @adamjacobs4209 7 месяцев назад

      The only problem will be that crowd pummler is going to be too busted

    • @juanchopanda28
      @juanchopanda28 7 месяцев назад

      So go ele

    • @adamjacobs4209
      @adamjacobs4209 7 месяцев назад

      @@juanchopanda28 can't use crowd pummler without the enhance talent

  • @leeroynilsbreuer
    @leeroynilsbreuer 7 месяцев назад

    BIS gear list to this build would be very interesting

  • @djwork5807
    @djwork5807 6 месяцев назад

    Now that we know that stormstrike is only 6 sec cooldown, you have to get it, auto reset attack each 6 second is busted

  • @adamjacobs4209
    @adamjacobs4209 7 месяцев назад

    I was doing some theory on this one last night, I think you will be better using the dual weld or 2 hander rune instead of overload to get you more maelstrom procs and hit rating

    • @shjelde660
      @shjelde660  7 месяцев назад

      Yes i also think that is likely, because it's not just hit with melee. It's also hit with spells

    • @adamjacobs4209
      @adamjacobs4209 7 месяцев назад

      ​@shjelde660 in saying that, I think going into two handed might have an advantage as you can pare with crowd pummeler's buff for 50% haste for 30seconds... and let's face it 39seconds is longer than most fights..

    • @adamjacobs4209
      @adamjacobs4209 7 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@shjelde660with the pummlers haste buff and 2handed specialisation you get 80% haste then you can use the void touched gloves too for a further 10% and troll racial ontop of that... then the trinket from gnomes and world buff aswell... all that with windfury... this will be nuts haha

    • @adamjacobs4209
      @adamjacobs4209 7 месяцев назад

      Crowd pummler will have a .4second swing time with just 2 handed mastery and pumler buff...

    • @adamjacobs4209
      @adamjacobs4209 7 месяцев назад

      @@shjelde660 and there is a 20% haste buff on a helm...

  • @smugmcmuffin
    @smugmcmuffin 7 месяцев назад +1

    I'm interested to know if WF proc hits can count towards maelstrom generation. Or will it only be from auto attack hits.

    • @shjelde660
      @shjelde660  7 месяцев назад +2

      thats a great question!

    • @user-oh7fv6ds3k
      @user-oh7fv6ds3k 7 месяцев назад

      "When u deal damage with a melee attack" so clearly it will if wf is supposed as melee attack and not ranged attack or spell damage)

  • @Ventrilftw
    @Ventrilftw 7 месяцев назад

    Have you given a thought about tank/spell caster shaman hybrid, cool stuff

    • @kriscotter8545
      @kriscotter8545 7 месяцев назад

      Maelstrom weapon also works with healing wave so the amount of self healing will be nuts

    • @Ventrilftw
      @Ventrilftw 7 месяцев назад

      @@kriscotter8545 Cant use way of the earth rune that way, Power surge is the way i think

  • @jahpocalypse
    @jahpocalypse 7 месяцев назад

    maelstrom is just a chance on hit, not a guarantee. might not proc as fast as it needs to to make this viable

  • @hanschristianaskou3959
    @hanschristianaskou3959 7 месяцев назад

    Super fint perspektiv!

  • @eduardodta
    @eduardodta 7 месяцев назад

    The question is whether the shaman will have enough mana to spellhance...

    • @dominicmarzouca9390
      @dominicmarzouca9390 7 месяцев назад +2

      Maelstrom weapon at 5 stacks allows casting of a spell to be free. Plus shamanistic rage, mana shouldn't be an issue

  • @Naaku
    @Naaku 7 месяцев назад

    Been thinking of this exact build for months now
    What gear would be the best tho? Str / Agi or spell power gear or a mix of them

    • @shjelde660
      @shjelde660  7 месяцев назад +1

      I think a mix would probably be preferable. But no way of knowing

    • @a.g.9360
      @a.g.9360 7 месяцев назад

      no one will let you roll on int and agn items :D u have to chose one :D

    • @Naaku
      @Naaku 7 месяцев назад

      @@a.g.9360 u gotta be friends with the raidleader and tell them that rings neck and back are BIS with spell power 😀

  • @MrToft11
    @MrToft11 7 месяцев назад

    Thank you!

  • @monsoon1234567890
    @monsoon1234567890 6 месяцев назад

    Hi have you tried it yet?

  • @Stormkriger
    @Stormkriger 7 месяцев назад +1

    Have tou seende the blood moon 2 hander ?
    Think of that weapon with wf , flurry and stormstike...... think of that proc...." knock emeny sollys for 2 sec" and the chest rune

  • @dhoff82
    @dhoff82 7 месяцев назад +1

    I’m going 2 handed enh idc lol

  • @tharpoon
    @tharpoon 7 месяцев назад

    this is for pvp? i feel like pve needs a 'mental quickness' for spellhance to be viable

    • @shjelde660
      @shjelde660  7 месяцев назад +1

      its for both tbh. i dont think we'll get mental quickness. i'd rather that they adjust the runes a bot to make up for the "lack" of spell power, Mental quickness would make gearing borring cause then you would always prio agi/str

  • @shamantank
    @shamantank 7 месяцев назад

    🎉

  • @DankRevolution
    @DankRevolution 7 месяцев назад

    Not a chance in hell im gimping myself not going full enhance or full ele

    • @shjelde660
      @shjelde660  7 месяцев назад

      If they do something with stormstrike, then I think full enhance mig the best spec. If not, I doubt it. Bet we shall see 😃

  • @az9498
    @az9498 7 месяцев назад

    Spellhance

  • @zepho100
    @zepho100 7 месяцев назад

    I think pure ele is just better? Can blow someone up no matter.