I really can’t decide! Both the 3D and 2D stages look fantastic. The 3D might have the edge only because the stages changes between rounds so there’s more variety.
Tbh It really is not a deal breaker considering how smooth the DC version is and also 3D backgrounds in a 2D game suck anyway. I was expecting 3D models on a 3D background...
Both are great looking games, but when it comes to fighting games, I always prefer 2D background graphics and sprites as characters, rather than polygons.
This was when Sony was demanding 3D games for North America. That's why we didn't get SNK vs. Capcom Chaos on the PS2 in NA, but Japan did. I think SNK had to add 3D graphics to KOF 2001, or not release it at all in for the PS2 in NA.
You are right about Yod Hay Waw Shin Waw Ayin(YaHuWSHuWa). A somali offered me a koran and I told him I have the truth in my heart and rejected his offer. So he said " I told you what I believe, so you tell me what you believe." And I told him about The Father YaHuWaH and Son, YaHuSHuWa and when he repeated YaHuSHuWa, we heard a loud ovation and he even said it was angels and we saw a horizontal rainbow and a cardinal was flying across it and we both said it was a miracle. But he is still muslim. Even though the LOUD CLAPPING OVATION happened when the muslim somali said YaHuWSHuWa. No one was around us when the loud ovation happened and he was looking behind me and I was looking behind him to see where the ovation came from because the sound of the ovation surrounded us and my heart was pounding in fear like what just happened? No matter how much I've stalled THE INEVITABLE FUTURE TIMELINE, THE INEVITABLE FUTURE TIMELINE will come into fruition. 1. The sick children will be healed with utterrance of THE NAME ABOVE ALL NAMES, YAHUWSHUWA. 2. The heavens will open on Earth for all to witness as the angels will commune with the healed children as the children heal the sick and feed the poor in THE NAME ABOVE ALL NAMES, YAHUWSHUWA. 3. The multitudes all over the world will learn of YAHUWSHUWA. As that is the true Good News that will be preached and demonstrated for them to witness. 4. AT THAT POINT THOSE MULTITUDES OF PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WORLD WHO CALLED UNTO YAHUWSHUWA TO FEED THE POOR AND HEAL THE SICK WILL KNOW THEY WILL NEVER DIE OR BE HURT DURING TRIBULATION. 5. THOSE HUMAN MULTITUDES WILL LOVE EVERYONE, EVEN THOSE WHO HATE THEM BECAUSE YAHUWSHUWA TAUGHT THEM THAT HIGHEST LEVEL OF LOVE WILL SHOW THAT YOU HAVE ARE SINCERE WHEN YOU CALL OUT TO YAHUWSHUWA. YOU WILL HAVE THE HOLY SPIRIT AND REALISE YOUR EXISTENCE WILL BE LOVE AND PARADISE. 6. THE ANGELS WILL SEPARATE THOSE WITH HATE IN THEIR HEARTS AND INTENTIONS OF VIOLENCE. AS THOSE WHO CALL UNTO YAHUWSHUWA WILL NEVER DO VIOLENCE EVER. SO THOSE WHO CHOSE TO FIGHT WILL BE DOING SIN. 7.THANKFULLY EARTH WILL BE CHANGED TO HEAVEN EVEN BEFORE THAT PROCESS, WE WILL BE WAITING AS OUR BODY PERMEATES WITH THE BEST FEELING OF THE HOLY SPIRIT DWELLING WITHIN US. I FORGOT TO MENTION PEOPLE WILL BE RAISED FROM THE DEAD IN YAHUWSHUWA'S NAME AS THE SICK IS HEALED AND POOR BEING FED HAPPENS....js
PS2 is much better. Even better than the Atomiswave original. The backrounds change and the music doesn't stop between rounds (I hate when the music stops between rounds. It breaks the mood). PS2 FTW!!!
The console ports also have 5 extra hidden characters that are not in the arcade ver of the game. Angel, Kusanagi, May Lee, Seth and Omega Rugal. That's worth having one of those ports to me. The PS2 port also looks sharper overall look at the victory screen at 4:21, someone was using PS2 component cables. The game is rigged. :)
@@IanMicheal sorry my bad you can soft mod PS2 and give it higher resolution output screen but it doesnt change the main rendering resolution graphics or textures.
La de Playstation 2 es mejor los escenarios tienen más animación y 3D y tiene su menú para ver cómo hacer los especiales y todo menos la de Dreamcast esa sin ofender me da asco por que los mejores juegos los tiene el ps2
Both games look good, but I think the PS2 is the clear winner here. That extra little bit of 3D perspective spiced up what were becoming fairly dated-looking sprite graphics circa 2000 while still looking "drawn" enough to look natural *with* those same sprites.
Na versão dreamcast /atomis wave as músicas reiniciam a cada round, não sei se é problema do port, mas é uma coisa que me incomoda igual aconteceu com o kof dream match 1999
É assim mesmo. No original do arcade é do mesmo jeito. Nesse caso a melhor versão pra jogar é a do PS2/Xbox porque não tem esse problema do áudio reiniciar, tem a opção de escolher entre os cenários 3D ou o original 2D. Além de personagens extras.
@@jubanumidia8460 Todos os jogos Atomiswave funcionarão no Dreamcast já que o hardware é o mesmo. Eles estão fazendo apenas alguns ajustes para o jogo funcionar via GDEmu/ODE/MODE/Serial Port/ETC. Até o momento temos aproximadamente metade dos jogos Atomiswave já no Dreamcast.
Amigo ,venho lembrar ,se você teve chance de jogar no Dreamcast, as versões de KOF 98,99 . Ambos em 3D. Lindos de mais para época, hoje pode ser portado essa versão de ps2 fielmente ao Dreamcast. Completando a coleção Legado do Dreamcast.
@@bassram3337 So VCdecide used the arcade board to compare it to the Ps2? Edit- I just checked and there is a homebrew version released for the dreamcast, so this really is the deamcast version.
Those backgrounds look awful. If they actually had any parallax and ground stuff going on that would be one thing, but they all looked unnecessarily flat on the arcade game. Not to mention the lack of animations. The PS2 was a major improvement, just like they did for practically every major home port of theirs in it.
In fact, the game's arcade system, the Sammy Atomiswave, was actually based on the Dreamcast, so the fans have hacked the system to be playable on the actual Dreamcast.
A Snk deveria fazer uma coletânea com todos esses KOFs que ninguém se importa para as atuais plataformas, KOF99,00,01,03, NeoWave, XI,XII e os 3 Maximum Impact.
No son ports, el Atomiswave es identico al Dreamcast. Las unicas diferencias son que Atomiswave usa cartuchos y guarda sus configuraciones en SRAM (mientras que Dreamcast usa GD-ROMs y guarda en los VMU)
Pues se descubrió que la Atomiswave es la misma Dreamcast pero algo modificada para que sea una maquina "Arcade", realmente la Dreamcast tiene mucho potencial, posiblemente igual de poderosa que la Ps2, por eso de que Microsoft ayudo con su desarrollo y su software, el WinCE
@@Chesshiire-x Dreamcast no tiene tan siquiera la mitad de poder de un PS2 en terminos de reenderizacion de geometria y texturas porque esta muy limitada por su VRAM y su CPU. Dreamcast tiene 8MB de RAM de systema y 8MB de RAM de video (16MB en total) Pero el Power VR2 solo puede acceder el RAM de video, por lo que los otros 8MB de RAM de sistema NO existen para nada grafico. El Power VR2 puede generar 7 mpps, pero como el Dreamcast solo tiene 8MB de RAM de video, no le alcanza para generar esa cantidad de polygonos, ya que tiene que distribuir el RAM entre geometria y texturas. En promedio, los juegos de Dreamcast solo alcanzan a llegar a 3mpps (millones de poligonos por segundo)para geometria, 5MB para texturas, 8MB en total al maximo) PS2 tiene 32MB de RAM de sistema y 4MB de RAM de video, pero su procesador de video SI puede utilizar el RAM de sistem para graficos, por eso en promedio utiliza alrrededor de 34MB para video y 2MB para codigo basico (en promedio 17mpps de geometria y 16~20MB de texturas) Ademas el Dreamcast carece de hardware "Transform & Lighting" (T&L para abreviar) por lo que depende de su CPU para calcular geometria e iluminacion, mientras que PS2 tiene un cooprocesador (el Vector Unit 01 o VU1) completamente dedicado a T&L. Hay muchas otras diferencias pero honestamente no se de donde diablos saca la gente que el Dreamcast es una maquina poderosa.
@@Chesshiire-x 1- no se descubrio, siempre se supo y 2- el DC no es tan poderoso como el PS2, graficamente se veia algo mejor por su chip grafico pero en cuanto procesamiento y RAM y todo lo demas, el PS2 lo deja de calle
If I had to frame and hang one static background version on the wall I would pick the Dreamcast but, when you see the PS2 backgrounds in action they totally steal the show.
Ótima comparação. Traga mais comparações dos novos jogos Atomiswave de Dreamcast, por favor. Esse KoF é bem obscuro para mim e parece ser bem fraco. A versão do PS2 foi aprimorada, então ela leva essa. Os cenários 3d do PS2 são show de bola mesmo, deram mais vida ao jogo. As sombras no PS2 estão melhores por não ficarem piscando. A música também continua no PS2 entre os rounds, o que dá uma dinâmica melhor ao jogo. Tecnicamente os jogos na prática são iguais, é tão bom quanto no Dreamcast, mas o PS2 ganha essa pelas vantagens acima.
Sem contar que o do PS2 a gente pode mudar dificuldade, tempo, algumas coisas do gráfico, áudio, mudar detalhes dos personagens e algumas coisas a mais
Now i know why it says Dreamcast on the left! I never knew the Sammy Atomiswave was based on Dreamcast (And Naomi too). But yes, I think i like he 3D stages in this game much more better. I dont know why but I like seeing 2D sprites fight in a 3D environment! And if ANYONE planning on getting this game for homes, get the PS2 version cuz there are more characters, the Xbox version may have better graphics but overall doesnt have as many fighters as the PS2 version does. (Which is strange honestly)
X-Box version also has longer load times between rounds, and 2 less characters (May Lee and Angel) than the PS2 version has. It also doesn't really look better at all.
It’s the time Dreamcast died and PS2 continued, it was fan ported later for the Dreamcast which was supposed to be ported from the arcade to the Dreamcast by the developers themselves. But final verdict the ps2s 3D animation and menu with new characters are superior to the Dreamcast 2D version.
The DC version isn't a port. It's a 1:1 "conversion" of the arcade (dc and atomiswave have the same architecture) But I imagine that dc can handle 3d backgrounds (like kof 98 and 99 evo) if snk decides to give an official port
@@LCmedel Dreamcast will never get any official ports of the game as Sega no longer supports the DC, or any of their consoles. It would have to be up to the fans to port the PS2 version over themselves.
As true as that is, if the arcade gameplay frames and hit data are the same as the arcade, I’d choose the PS2 version. Night and Day version of stages, 3D backgrounds, other game modes (challenge, survival, single player, etc), console-exclusive characters (Seth, Kusanagi, Omega Rugal, Angel, & May Lee Jinju) and color edit makes the PS2 the better experience, in my humble opinion. snk.fandom.com/wiki/The_King_of_Fighters_Neowave Again, that’s with all in-game arcade gameplay data being the same as the original arcade version. If not, I’ll take the Dreamcast/MAME version.
@@cybermx8896 Yes it would be it's not the same engine.. Wanted arcade perfect not messed with it's dreamcast it's the arcade rom after all how the game was meant to be like.. Not arcade perfect on the ps2 if you like it think it's better thats cool.. I dont like ether of these kof games.. i rather neogeo cd kof98
@@cybermx8896 dreamcast is arcade perfect like the game was supposed to be if you played it there... The ps2 version is adding content to sell it ,, if you think the dreamcast could not do the ps2 version your very much mistaken.. it's not the same engine dreamcast version is just the arcade rom
SNK se fue a la bancarrota en el 2000, su ultimo juego oficial con todos los integrantes fue la 00, ya de ahí el 01 y el 02 lo hicieron eolith con algunos miembros del team original, ya para el 2003 Playmore que fue fundado por varios de los ex-integrantes de SNK recupero el control completo y tomo las riendas de nuevo, pero se perdió a Shinkiro ya que el se fue a trabajar para Capcom.
It was not the Dreamcast version,it was Atomiswave arcade version, So it means you haven't got any practice mode，cannot change the level,time set,and the other options, so why should I have to choice this semi-finished products for play？
@@mint_kyuu99 I've known that some amazing guy converted the Arcade roms into Dreamcast version,but still my questions above haven't got solved. although it's fine to be able to play some games which were never ran on a console before.
@@alphaone6665 Well, there aren't other modes like practice mode, and you can change the options modifying the game files. It's quite tedious but it works
That's because the game's arcade system, the Sammy Atomiswave, was actually based on the Dreamcast, so the fans have hacked the system to be playable on the actual Dreamcast.
Something is wrong: this game was launched years after Sega discontinue DC. NeoWave for DC looks like a hack: in order select you have but one A,B and C...but DC does not have the "C" button. Someone put real effort to make it work, but compare thinking on who is the best is kind of unfair
Pensei que esse jogo não tinha saído pra nenhum sistema. Os cenários em 3d ficaram bem legais como de costume mas ainda parece que foi tudo feito na pressa e podia ser melhor. Mas foi uma boa sacada essa do cenário mudar de ângulo quando vai pra outro round. Já que fizeram todo o resto ainda podiam dar uma ajeitada nos marcadores que são esse 3d falso que não enganava ninguém no original e no ps2 ficou ainda mais feio.
It's kind of true that this is a fanboy sausage fest around here, but there is indeed something a little bit off with the PS2 version. The superior parallax of the 3D environment is really quite nice, but the mismatch in textures and lighting between the characters and background makes the fighters come across more like paper cutouts moving around. The background's sense of depth would have been a clear win for the PS2 if they had spent a little more time integrating the characters into it, rather than simply copy pasting the 2D sprites. For instance, you see Mai and Yashiro fighting under bridge lamps in the PS2 version, but their brightness values don't change at all; like they aren't even really present.
I think the graphics look great on both to be honest! But I loved how the PS2 version went from Day to Night on that first stage while Dreamcast did not! Reminds Me of Waku Waku 7! (Sega Saturn) :) Now to get back to the video!
You are wrong. The arcade and this Dreamcast port did not have 3D backgrounds, nor did they have night and day version of stages. Geese Howard’s stage goes into a whole other lower level of his mansion on the second round for PS2.
That’s not parallax scrolling, the PS2 stages were entirely redone to be in 3D. That’s why they look better on a whole, especially considering that they did a good job of keeping the aesthetic intact.
The Atomiswave/Dreamcast version looks so ugly with those blurry/low res and static prerrendered backgrounds with 0 parallax, no floor line scrolling, no crowd, no nothing.... I didn't knew the PS2 port had remade background graphics, I only had the xbox one bitd, the port for the og xbox not for the xbox one.
The PS2 ports of almost ALL of those titles did this. Not to mention also decreasing the load times. They were far superior to the Atomiswave in virtually every major respect.
Hi! You could indicate that this is an Atomiswave port on Dreamcast to avoid the confusion of a pure original Dreamcast port. Thank you Sincerely James
What amazes me is that Neowave (and some of the 2k ones) had pretty good 3d stages but Rebout as terrible ones!!! Usually I prefer the 2d ones but Kof01, 02 had the worst in the series, the 2d is welcome, but the laziness made them create some weird ones on Kof94 Rebout and they never bothered making the old ones in hires.
Crazy thing about 2001 is that the art for the backgrounds are sick but it looks like fuzzy and badly pre rendered stuff. I have seen gifs of them on google that somehow looks like the pixels typically used in KoF games and they are someone of the best in the series then
@@Bloodreign1 Yeah but the hi-res sprites look off when u play with old backgrounds. They didn't even bother to remake them like the character sprites. It's lazy.
@@omegarugal9283 oh I know, they were very similar in the way they're built. Which is what let's the port even happen as the hardware is nearly identical.
Cenários totalmente sem graça e feios pra kacete em ambas as versões ! Pelo menos os sprites dos personagens estão menos pixelados. Saudades da equipe técnica que nos deu obras de arte gráficas como kof 95,96 e 98...
Pra mim os cenários tão bonitos pra caralho, o que deixa sem graça é a falta de torcedores ao fundo, fica parecendo algo morto. Pelo menos minha opinião é essa
o Port do DC vem da Atomiswave, não roda perfeito no Dreamcast ainda via CD, apenas GDEMU. Fora que as sombras dos personagens do Dreamcast contém falhas ainda devido ao port caseiro da Atomiswave. PS2 vence essa, gráficos 3D nos cenários estão muito bem feitos.
Ata vai dizer q o Neo wave do ps2 é um jogo propio do console?não deixa de ser um jogo portado e remodelado em alguns aspectos para o console da sony,se tivesse tempo de ter lançando oficialmente é claro que no dreamcast iriam trabalhar melhor o port como fizeram com o kof 99,sendo que nenhum versão de qualquer game que saiu primeiro pro dreamcast foi igual ou melhor no ps2,sendo o Dreamcast vitorioso
Claro que a versão PS2 vai "vencer", pois um jogo que foi remodelado, lançado dois anos após o porte do SEGA Dreamcast fica melhor em alguns aspectos. Podem trabalhar os cenários, os sprites dos personagens, deixar o jogo mais fluído entre outros. Diferentemente quando os jogos são lançados simultaneamente às plataformas (consoles). Em suma, podem haver datas diferentes de lançamentos na mesma região, porém já finalizados e portados, sem refazer o jogo.
"se" tivessem tempo, "se" fosse lançado, como não aconteceram esses "se", o port de Dreamcast é caseiro e deficitário com relação ao PS2, portanto volto a concluir, PS2 wins
Fernando, via porta serial esse jogo roda perfeito também. A versão do PS2 ficou melhor por causa do cenário, na minha opinião. E essa questão da música reiniciar rola no Arcade também, né? Ainda bem que ajeitaram isso no PS2.
Recently some people has been working on Atomiswave to DC conversions. KOF XI, MS6, SamSho VI, and others are being converted for DC, i think they have 40% of Atomiswave library converted as of now
@@Fattydeposit soon the entire atomiswave library will be playable in the dreamcast... except maybe the games that use special input harnesses like the lightgun ones...
La SEGA Dreamcast tiene mejor definición y algunos escenarios están mejor hechos que su contrapartida, pero los escenarios de la PS2 son hechos a base de polígonos, lo que les da perspectiva visual, además de que estos pasan del día a la noche a la vez que tienen algún que otro agregado y movimientos extras!!!
Actually ,Dreamcast version is the Official Atomiswave arcade model for all consoles later
It's sucks
PINOCHOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
@@KyokaMaruyama numbskull
I really can’t decide! Both the 3D and 2D stages look fantastic. The 3D might have the edge only because the stages changes between rounds so there’s more variety.
Tbh It really is not a deal breaker considering how smooth the DC version is and also 3D backgrounds in a 2D game suck anyway. I was expecting 3D models on a 3D background...
hate to say that but those 3d scenarios are pretty damm nice
They look better than the current 3D kof games. Puzzles me why that is the case
Both are great looking games, but when it comes to fighting games, I always prefer 2D background graphics and sprites as characters, rather than polygons.
This was when Sony was demanding 3D games for North America. That's why we didn't get SNK vs. Capcom Chaos on the PS2 in NA, but Japan did. I think SNK had to add 3D graphics to KOF 2001, or not release it at all in for the PS2 in NA.
wrong on all accounts
17:03 - 17:19
Dreamcast and Playstation 2, Ray tracing confirmed.
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You are right about Yod Hay Waw Shin Waw Ayin(YaHuWSHuWa). A somali offered me a koran and I told him I have the truth in my heart and rejected his offer. So he said " I told you what I believe, so you tell me what you believe." And I told him about The Father YaHuWaH and Son, YaHuSHuWa and when he repeated YaHuSHuWa, we heard a loud ovation and he even said it was angels and we saw a horizontal rainbow and a cardinal was flying across it and we both said it was a miracle. But he is still muslim. Even though the LOUD CLAPPING OVATION happened when the muslim somali said YaHuWSHuWa.
No one was around us when the loud ovation happened and he was looking behind me and I was looking behind him to see where the ovation came from because the sound of the ovation surrounded us and my heart was pounding in fear like what just happened?
No matter how much I've stalled THE INEVITABLE FUTURE TIMELINE, THE INEVITABLE FUTURE TIMELINE will come into fruition.
1. The sick children will be healed with utterrance of THE NAME ABOVE ALL NAMES, YAHUWSHUWA.
2. The heavens will open on Earth for all to witness as the angels will commune with the healed children as the children heal the sick and feed the poor in THE NAME ABOVE ALL NAMES, YAHUWSHUWA.
3. The multitudes all over the world will learn of YAHUWSHUWA. As that is the true Good News that will be preached and demonstrated for them to witness.
4. AT THAT POINT THOSE MULTITUDES OF PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WORLD WHO CALLED UNTO YAHUWSHUWA TO FEED THE POOR AND HEAL THE SICK WILL KNOW THEY WILL NEVER DIE OR BE HURT DURING TRIBULATION.
5. THOSE HUMAN MULTITUDES WILL LOVE EVERYONE, EVEN THOSE WHO HATE THEM BECAUSE YAHUWSHUWA TAUGHT THEM THAT HIGHEST LEVEL OF LOVE WILL SHOW THAT YOU HAVE ARE SINCERE WHEN YOU CALL OUT TO YAHUWSHUWA. YOU WILL HAVE THE HOLY SPIRIT AND REALISE YOUR EXISTENCE WILL BE LOVE AND PARADISE.
6. THE ANGELS WILL SEPARATE THOSE WITH HATE IN THEIR HEARTS AND INTENTIONS OF VIOLENCE. AS THOSE WHO CALL UNTO YAHUWSHUWA WILL NEVER DO VIOLENCE EVER. SO THOSE WHO CHOSE TO FIGHT WILL BE DOING SIN.
7.THANKFULLY EARTH WILL BE CHANGED TO HEAVEN EVEN BEFORE THAT PROCESS, WE WILL BE WAITING AS OUR BODY PERMEATES WITH THE BEST FEELING OF THE HOLY SPIRIT DWELLING WITHIN US.
I FORGOT TO MENTION PEOPLE WILL BE RAISED FROM THE DEAD IN YAHUWSHUWA'S NAME AS THE SICK IS HEALED AND POOR BEING FED HAPPENS....js
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Hey Mohammed. Islam is 🖕🏾 dirty facism shit =)
@@sscoreriotdx why the hate......
17:42 Young Geese spamming reppukens on the right
PS2 is much better. Even better than the Atomiswave original. The backrounds change and the music doesn't stop between rounds (I hate when the music stops between rounds. It breaks the mood). PS2 FTW!!!
CRT Wins!
What? No dithering.
I like the arcade version better, that is why I like the Dreamcast. I wish Sega merged with Sammy and made a home system called The Atomiswave!
The console ports also have 5 extra hidden characters that are not in the arcade ver of the game. Angel, Kusanagi, May Lee, Seth and Omega Rugal. That's worth having one of those ports to me. The PS2 port also looks sharper overall look at the victory screen at 4:21, someone was using PS2 component cables. The game is rigged. :)
Ps2 could never be sharper also lower res not 640x480 vga..
Vanessa is also hidden in the console ports
@@KyokaMaruyama You know the textures cant be changed there on the disk with the game ..Ps2 cant handle better textures it only has 4mb of vram..
@@IanMicheal sorry my bad you can soft mod PS2 and give it higher resolution output screen but it doesnt change the main rendering resolution graphics or textures.
18:58 Young Geese spamming Reppukens
Still play this on my Dreamcast with arcade stick.
The Dreamcast port was only released like 2 months ago.
3D has some nice elements but overall I think 2D looks more polished and complete.
Ahhh good ol dreamcast
Muy buen vídeo. Gracias de nuevo. En este caso me gustan las dos versiones. No puedo decidirme por una. :)
La de Playstation 2 es mejor los escenarios tienen más animación y 3D y tiene su menú para ver cómo hacer los especiales y todo menos la de Dreamcast esa sin ofender me da asco por que los mejores juegos los tiene el ps2
Que alguien le quite el teclado al niño, por favor...
Tava sentindo falta dos seus vídeos
I never see KOF Neo Wave on the Sega Dreamcast.
It's only existed for a few weeks (currently 16 of about 25 Atomiswave arcade games have recently been converted to and released on Dreamcast).
@@Fattydeposit I see. At least I got this on original Xbox for old timeshakes.
I SEE
@@Fattydeposit can you give us list of Atomiswave games converted to the Dreamcast ?!
@@jubanumidia8460 I can say for sure Metal Slug 6, Samurai Shodown VI and KOF XI were converted
Baita comparação tmj ai...
Both games look good, but I think the PS2 is the clear winner here. That extra little bit of 3D perspective spiced up what were becoming fairly dated-looking sprite graphics circa 2000 while still looking "drawn" enough to look natural *with* those same sprites.
Na versão dreamcast /atomis wave as músicas reiniciam a cada round, não sei se é problema do port, mas é uma coisa que me incomoda igual aconteceu com o kof dream match 1999
Acho que é assim mesmo no "original", visto que o jogo não foi modificado para rodar no Dreamcast e isso também não parece ser algum tipo de bug.
@@gelcilagameplays1342 então é vacilo dos caras mesmo, mas nem importa muito essa kof neo wave é bem sem graça de qualquer forma
É assim mesmo. No original do arcade é do mesmo jeito. Nesse caso a melhor versão pra jogar é a do PS2/Xbox porque não tem esse problema do áudio reiniciar, tem a opção de escolher entre os cenários 3D ou o original 2D. Além de personagens extras.
Kof 99 não é um Dreamatch :v mas o 98 sim.
@@lincolnabbot kof 98 do dreamcast se chama "dream match 1999"
To be honest, the one on Playstation is better because it has better graphics and has its own tactics menu.
Yamazaki seems like a drunk in da artwork
Damn I didn't knew it had a dreamcast release
it didnt, it was a atomiswave exclusive until it was ported to ps2 and xbox
The atomiswave is practically identical to the dreamcast hardware-wise
@@lajenehuen260 is there other AtomisWave port to the Dreamcast ?!
@@jubanumidia8460 I know theres much more.
I wont list them here, but if you look around you will find a list
@@jubanumidia8460 Todos os jogos Atomiswave funcionarão no Dreamcast já que o hardware é o mesmo. Eles estão fazendo apenas alguns ajustes para o jogo funcionar via GDEmu/ODE/MODE/Serial Port/ETC.
Até o momento temos aproximadamente metade dos jogos Atomiswave já no Dreamcast.
PS2 WINS! Perfect
Amigo ,venho lembrar ,se você teve chance de jogar no Dreamcast, as versões de KOF 98,99 . Ambos em 3D. Lindos de mais para época, hoje pode ser portado essa versão de ps2 fielmente ao Dreamcast. Completando a coleção Legado do Dreamcast.
DreamcastとPlayStation2 どちらが性能面がいいの❔ 画質などを知りたいです。
As 2 versões são boas mas a de PS2 parece mais atual
No ps2 dá pra colocar o cenário em 2d também nas opções
Shadows look better on ps2, but I prefer the 2d backgrounds on dreamcast over the 3d ones on ps2
the game is not on the Dreamcast...it was never there
@@bassram3337 So VCdecide used the arcade board to compare it to the Ps2? Edit- I just checked and there is a homebrew version released for the dreamcast, so this really is the deamcast version.
@@nohozana it is the Atomiswave version...the fan DC ported one has alot of problems
@@bassram3337 what problema?
Those backgrounds look awful. If they actually had any parallax and ground stuff going on that would be one thing, but they all looked unnecessarily flat on the arcade game. Not to mention the lack of animations. The PS2 was a major improvement, just like they did for practically every major home port of theirs in it.
Con qué programa grabas los juegos a la vez
I never know KOF neowave has released on Dreamcast?
It is a no official ported game.
In fact, the game's arcade system, the Sammy Atomiswave, was actually based on the Dreamcast, so the fans have hacked the system to be playable on the actual Dreamcast.
A Snk deveria fazer uma coletânea com todos esses KOFs que ninguém se importa para as atuais plataformas, KOF99,00,01,03, NeoWave, XI,XII e os 3 Maximum Impact.
(c)2005,2024 Embracer Group AB.
(c)SNK.
impresionante que este port de juego y otros en la Dreamcast y eso que no son oficiales para esta consola
No son ports, el Atomiswave es identico al Dreamcast. Las unicas diferencias son que Atomiswave usa cartuchos y guarda sus configuraciones en SRAM (mientras que Dreamcast usa GD-ROMs y guarda en los VMU)
@@RetrOrigin y afortunadamente para los hackers, el atomiswave usa el ROM como si fuera GD ROM
Pues se descubrió que la Atomiswave es la misma Dreamcast pero algo modificada para que sea una maquina "Arcade", realmente la Dreamcast tiene mucho potencial, posiblemente igual de poderosa que la Ps2, por eso de que Microsoft ayudo con su desarrollo y su software, el WinCE
@@Chesshiire-x Dreamcast no tiene tan siquiera la mitad de poder de un PS2 en terminos de reenderizacion de geometria y texturas porque esta muy limitada por su VRAM y su CPU.
Dreamcast tiene 8MB de RAM de systema y 8MB de RAM de video (16MB en total) Pero el Power VR2 solo puede acceder el RAM de video, por lo que los otros 8MB de RAM de sistema NO existen para nada grafico.
El Power VR2 puede generar 7 mpps, pero como el Dreamcast solo tiene 8MB de RAM de video, no le alcanza para generar esa cantidad de polygonos, ya que tiene que distribuir el RAM entre geometria y texturas. En promedio, los juegos de Dreamcast solo alcanzan a llegar a 3mpps (millones de poligonos por segundo)para geometria, 5MB para texturas, 8MB en total al maximo)
PS2 tiene 32MB de RAM de sistema y 4MB de RAM de video, pero su procesador de video SI puede utilizar el RAM de sistem para graficos, por eso en promedio utiliza alrrededor de 34MB para video y 2MB para codigo basico (en promedio 17mpps de geometria y 16~20MB de texturas)
Ademas el Dreamcast carece de hardware "Transform & Lighting" (T&L para abreviar) por lo que depende de su CPU para calcular geometria e iluminacion, mientras que PS2 tiene un cooprocesador (el Vector Unit 01 o VU1) completamente dedicado a T&L.
Hay muchas otras diferencias pero honestamente no se de donde diablos saca la gente que el Dreamcast es una maquina poderosa.
@@Chesshiire-x 1- no se descubrio, siempre se supo y 2- el DC no es tan poderoso como el PS2, graficamente se veia algo mejor por su chip grafico pero en cuanto procesamiento y RAM y todo lo demas, el PS2 lo deja de calle
Eu acho que essa é a lifebar mais feia de todos os tempos.
Eu odiava jogar o NeoWave no arcade, porque tinha muito pouco tempo para escolher o char.
Pior que é horrível mesmo. kkkkk
If I had to frame and hang one static background version on the wall I would pick the Dreamcast but, when you see the PS2 backgrounds in action they totally steal the show.
Wow I never knew there was a Dreamcast version of this game.
Dreamcasr arcade perfect!!!!!
PS2 Is an arcade superior version !!!!!!!!!
Ótima comparação. Traga mais comparações dos novos jogos Atomiswave de Dreamcast, por favor.
Esse KoF é bem obscuro para mim e parece ser bem fraco.
A versão do PS2 foi aprimorada, então ela leva essa. Os cenários 3d do PS2 são show de bola mesmo, deram mais vida ao jogo.
As sombras no PS2 estão melhores por não ficarem piscando. A música também continua no PS2 entre os rounds, o que dá uma dinâmica melhor ao jogo.
Tecnicamente os jogos na prática são iguais, é tão bom quanto no Dreamcast, mas o PS2 ganha essa pelas vantagens acima.
Sem contar que o do PS2 a gente pode mudar dificuldade, tempo, algumas coisas do gráfico, áudio, mudar detalhes dos personagens e algumas coisas a mais
Now i know why it says Dreamcast on the left! I never knew the Sammy Atomiswave was based on Dreamcast (And Naomi too).
But yes, I think i like he 3D stages in this game much more better. I dont know why but I like seeing 2D sprites fight in a 3D environment! And if ANYONE planning on getting this game for homes, get the PS2 version cuz there are more characters, the Xbox version may have better graphics but overall doesnt have as many fighters as the PS2 version does. (Which is strange honestly)
X-Box version also has longer load times between rounds, and 2 less characters (May Lee and Angel) than the PS2 version has. It also doesn't really look better at all.
It’s the time Dreamcast died and PS2 continued, it was fan ported later for the Dreamcast which was supposed to be ported from the arcade to the Dreamcast by the developers themselves. But final verdict the ps2s 3D animation and menu with new characters are superior to the Dreamcast 2D version.
No, it is not a port it is the real neowave game running on a Dreamcast
The DC version isn't a port. It's a 1:1 "conversion" of the arcade (dc and atomiswave have the same architecture)
But I imagine that dc can handle 3d backgrounds (like kof 98 and 99 evo) if snk decides to give an official port
@@LCmedel I believe Marvel Vs Capcom 2 on the DC uses this 3D background technique.
@@LCmedel Dreamcast will never get any official ports of the game as Sega no longer supports the DC, or any of their consoles. It would have to be up to the fans to port the PS2 version over themselves.
@@Bloodreign1 yeah, but i mean that neowave would have ported back if the dc haven´t died in 2001
DReamcast version is not a port it's a conversion it's 100% proper arcade perfect same hardware.. ps2 is a port not arcade perfect
As true as that is, if the arcade gameplay frames and hit data are the same as the arcade, I’d choose the PS2 version. Night and Day version of stages, 3D backgrounds, other game modes (challenge, survival, single player, etc), console-exclusive characters (Seth, Kusanagi, Omega Rugal, Angel, & May Lee Jinju) and color edit makes the PS2 the better experience, in my humble opinion.
snk.fandom.com/wiki/The_King_of_Fighters_Neowave
Again, that’s with all in-game arcade gameplay data being the same as the original arcade version. If not, I’ll take the Dreamcast/MAME version.
Yes ps2 is not a carcade perfect. Is arcade superior version !!!!!!!!!
@@cybermx8896 Yes it would be it's not the same engine.. Wanted arcade perfect not messed with it's dreamcast it's the arcade rom after all how the game was meant to be like.. Not arcade perfect on the ps2 if you like it think it's better thats cool.. I dont like ether of these kof games.. i rather neogeo cd kof98
@@IanMicheal ok now try to say it without crying ja ja ja ja ja
@@cybermx8896 dreamcast is arcade perfect like the game was supposed to be if you played it there... The ps2 version is adding content to sell it ,, if you think the dreamcast could not do the ps2 version your very much mistaken.. it's not the same engine dreamcast version is just the arcade rom
¿Qué Paso Con El Final?
Hopefully someone can get some license rights to make these legit releases.
I have the original Xbox version of KOF Neowave, but it's the digital release for XB1.
3d very very very wonderfull !!!!
Las ilustraciones de los personajes,no las hizo Shinkiro?.
SNK se fue a la bancarrota en el 2000, su ultimo juego oficial con todos los integrantes fue la 00, ya de ahí el 01 y el 02 lo hicieron eolith con algunos miembros del team original, ya para el 2003 Playmore que fue fundado por varios de los ex-integrantes de SNK recupero el control completo y tomo las riendas de nuevo, pero se perdió a Shinkiro ya que el se fue a trabajar para Capcom.
It was not the Dreamcast version,it was Atomiswave arcade version,
So it means you haven't got any practice mode，cannot change the
level,time set,and the other options, so why should I have to choice this
semi-finished products for play？
The Atomiswave version was converted and ported to the Dreamcast very recently, like 2 weeks ago
@@mint_kyuu99 I've known that some amazing guy converted the Arcade roms into Dreamcast version,but still my questions above haven't got solved.
although it's fine to be able to play some games which were never ran on a console before.
@@alphaone6665 Well, there aren't other modes like practice mode, and you can change the options modifying the game files. It's quite tedious but it works
Wait a minute, did que have this KOF for the Dreamcast ? O_o
It's a homebrew port of the Atomiswave version of the game.
I don't recall a Dreamcast version. That looks like the Arcade version.
That's because the game's arcade system, the Sammy Atomiswave, was actually based on the Dreamcast, so the fans have hacked the system to be playable on the actual Dreamcast.
O último KOF lançado que realmente gosto.
E o XIII?
NeoWAVEにDC版があるのを知らなかった！
Something is wrong: this game was launched years after Sega discontinue DC. NeoWave for DC looks like a hack: in order select you have but one A,B and C...but DC does not have the "C" button. Someone put real effort to make it work, but compare thinking on who is the best is kind of unfair
Is arcade mod for dc
@@javiereduardo3617 that's nice, it may be applicable to other AtomWise games!
Pensei que esse jogo não tinha saído pra nenhum sistema. Os cenários em 3d ficaram bem legais como de costume mas ainda parece que foi tudo feito na pressa e podia ser melhor. Mas foi uma boa sacada essa do cenário mudar de ângulo quando vai pra outro round. Já que fizeram todo o resto ainda podiam dar uma ajeitada nos marcadores que são esse 3d falso que não enganava ninguém no original e no ps2 ficou ainda mais feio.
que marcadores?
@@milfilosofia4994 as barras de energia e fotos dos lutadores
Me gusta más la iluminación y fluides de ps2
Os cenários desse jogo são bonitos pra caralho, mas o que deixa eles sem graça é a falta de torcedores ao fundo, fica muito morto, na minha opinião
Verdade kkk nada a ver
Ps2 better because parallax and more animations, but Dream has nice sprites anyway.
3d and paralax effect makes everything better. Cant understand the complaints to the ps2 version
This channel is almost 99% of sega fanboys, thats's it.
It's kind of true that this is a fanboy sausage fest around here, but there is indeed something a little bit off with the PS2 version. The superior parallax of the 3D environment is really quite nice, but the mismatch in textures and lighting between the characters and background makes the fighters come across more like paper cutouts moving around. The background's sense of depth would have been a clear win for the PS2 if they had spent a little more time integrating the characters into it, rather than simply copy pasting the 2D sprites. For instance, you see Mai and Yashiro fighting under bridge lamps in the PS2 version, but their brightness values don't change at all; like they aren't even really present.
@@ostiariusalpha Maybe those 3d background would look better with a crt or a scanline shader
@TrueSinisterSurely u don't known this channel. See more vids and comments section and u will understand.
I think the graphics look great on both to be honest! But I loved how the PS2 version went from Day to Night on that first stage while Dreamcast did not! Reminds Me of Waku Waku 7! (Sega Saturn) :) Now to get back to the video!
I could have sworn DreamCast was also in 3d in backgrounds? Am I wrong???
You are wrong. The arcade and this Dreamcast port did not have 3D backgrounds, nor did they have night and day version of stages. Geese Howard’s stage goes into a whole other lower level of his mansion on the second round for PS2.
You might be getting this atomiswave port mixed up with the dreamcast port of KOF 99 (KOF Evolution)
Wasn't this on og Xbox?
the ps2 port wins hands down. there's NO parallax scrolling with the stages on the dc (arcade port). but the ps2 has that and many more improvements
That’s not parallax scrolling, the PS2 stages were entirely redone to be in 3D. That’s why they look better on a whole, especially considering that they did a good job of keeping the aesthetic intact.
性能あまり関係無いよね
有るとすれば メモリ容量くらいかな？
あとは開発時期と期間だよね
The Atomiswave/Dreamcast version looks so ugly with those blurry/low res and static prerrendered backgrounds with 0 parallax, no floor line scrolling, no crowd, no nothing.... I didn't knew the PS2 port had remade background graphics, I only had the xbox one bitd, the port for the og xbox not for the xbox one.
The PS2 ports of almost ALL of those titles did this. Not to mention also decreasing the load times. They were far superior to the Atomiswave in virtually every major respect.
Hi!
You could indicate that this is an Atomiswave port on Dreamcast to avoid the confusion of a pure original Dreamcast port.
Thank you
Sincerely James
The person running this channel is a massive Sega fan, no way does she do that to avoid hurting Sega's reputation.
드림캐스트로 내오웨이브가 나온적이 없는데... 버튼도 드캐버전이라면 a,b,x,y로 나와야지
The 3D game looks more beautiful than it's 2D counterpart of course.
Finally a legit comment
What amazes me is that Neowave (and some of the 2k ones) had pretty good 3d stages but Rebout as terrible ones!!! Usually I prefer the 2d ones but Kof01, 02 had the worst in the series, the 2d is welcome, but the laziness made them create some weird ones on Kof94 Rebout and they never bothered making the old ones in hires.
Crazy thing about 2001 is that the art for the backgrounds are sick but it looks like fuzzy and badly pre rendered stuff. I have seen gifs of them on google that somehow looks like the pixels typically used in KoF games and they are someone of the best in the series then
You do know you can play Rebout with the new sprites over the old backgrounds right? And the sprites don't actually clash with the backgrounds.
@@Bloodreign1 Yeah but the hi-res sprites look off when u play with old backgrounds. They didn't even bother to remake them like the character sprites. It's lazy.
ps2 wins
I prefer the 3d ones
PlayStation 2 Win Can you imagine what the dreamcast with DVD would be like?
DC version looks awesome for the port
not DC, atomisvae, technicly the same thing but in ROM cartdridge form instead of GD ROM
@@omegarugal9283 oh I know, they were very similar in the way they're built. Which is what let's the port even happen as the hardware is nearly identical.
@@imnotayoutuber8494 i bet that Sammy bought the leftover naomi/DC parts from sega to build the atomiswave
@@omegarugal9283 Sammy actually bought controlling stake in SEGA some time ago.
Dreamcast.lool.a.little rugged but I suppose there's something about the old skool art
Its a shame the DC got shafted like this bc we all know it was a very capable system
Cenários totalmente sem graça e feios pra kacete em ambas as versões ! Pelo menos os sprites dos personagens estão menos pixelados. Saudades da equipe técnica que nos deu obras de arte gráficas como kof 95,96 e 98...
Pra mim os cenários tão bonitos pra caralho, o que deixa sem graça é a falta de torcedores ao fundo, fica parecendo algo morto. Pelo menos minha opinião é essa
oldschcool KOF 2000 MasterPiece
As artes do 97 também são show de bola. Uma das melhores.
@@milfilosofia4994 Os torcedores faziam muita diferença
Os cenarios em 3D muito mais bonito
N existe versão de dreamcast, só teve um port da rom para rodar no console.Então a comparação aí na real é Arcade x PS2.
A versão Dreamcast é recente, não oficial - feita por fãs.
I love 3d
Proximo faz com king of fighters 2002 UM 👍🏻🤝🏻
nose, las dos estan bien preciosas xd
Dreamcast 2D.
The 2d is the Best!!
o Port do DC vem da Atomiswave, não roda perfeito no Dreamcast ainda via CD, apenas GDEMU. Fora que as sombras dos personagens do Dreamcast contém falhas ainda devido ao port caseiro da Atomiswave. PS2 vence essa, gráficos 3D nos cenários estão muito bem feitos.
Ata vai dizer q o Neo wave do ps2 é um jogo propio do console?não deixa de ser um jogo portado e remodelado em alguns aspectos para o console da sony,se tivesse tempo de ter lançando oficialmente é claro que no dreamcast iriam trabalhar melhor o port como fizeram com o kof 99,sendo que nenhum versão de qualquer game que saiu primeiro pro dreamcast foi igual ou melhor no ps2,sendo o Dreamcast vitorioso
Claro que a versão PS2 vai "vencer", pois um jogo que foi remodelado, lançado dois anos após o porte do SEGA Dreamcast fica melhor em alguns aspectos. Podem trabalhar os cenários, os sprites dos personagens, deixar o jogo mais fluído entre outros. Diferentemente quando os jogos são lançados simultaneamente às plataformas (consoles). Em suma, podem haver datas diferentes de lançamentos na mesma região, porém já finalizados e portados, sem refazer o jogo.
"se" tivessem tempo, "se" fosse lançado, como não aconteceram esses "se", o port de Dreamcast é caseiro e deficitário com relação ao PS2, portanto volto a concluir, PS2 wins
sem mencionar as músicas no DC que ficam reiniciando entre os rounds, mais um ponto negativo.
Fernando, via porta serial esse jogo roda perfeito também.
A versão do PS2 ficou melhor por causa do cenário, na minha opinião.
E essa questão da música reiniciar rola no Arcade também, né?
Ainda bem que ajeitaram isso no PS2.
I played dreamcast version was too good
De verdad salió para Dreamcast Cúando murió la consola antes ke Saliera este juego
Pretty much same
Ps2 Win
Dreamcast was a lost jewel.
Siendo honesto se ve mejor la verdad las del ps2
Did you notice the Islamic chanting in the game while fighting
PS2 WINS
KOF NeoWave was never released on DC. it was released on the Atomiswave then the PS2 received a port later
Recently some people has been working on Atomiswave to DC conversions. KOF XI, MS6, SamSho VI, and others are being converted for DC, i think they have 40% of Atomiswave library converted as of now
@@JorgeMetal579 Indeed. As of this comment they've converted about 16 out of about 25 (in about the space of a month)
@@Fattydeposit soon the entire atomiswave library will be playable in the dreamcast... except maybe the games that use special input harnesses like the lightgun ones...
I was playing on my Sega Dreamcast like, literally, a few minutes ago...
ドリキャス版あったのか
In my opinion ps2 destroyed the dreamcast here
this is more than lazy port, 3d backgrounds looks very good
a fanmade and perfect port of the arcade version that doesn't have 3D backgrounds....
No noto diferencia
Alguien como yo?
La SEGA Dreamcast tiene mejor definición y algunos escenarios están mejor hechos que su contrapartida, pero los escenarios de la PS2 son hechos a base de polígonos, lo que les da perspectiva visual, además de que estos pasan del día a la noche a la vez que tienen algún que otro agregado y movimientos extras!!!
The PS2 version looks better, but not by much! the problem is the game, since NeoWave is somewhat repetitive...
you wait Update.
"2d" deviam colocar aspas no título pois o 2d do dreamcast é falso
The best is the xbox version
All I know is, this game wasn't tainted by atrocious Falcoon art which is always a plus!
I am an unapologetic Falcoon fan.