Except in trucks. The F150 Powerboost is better in almost every way. I was hoping the Tundra Hybrid was going to be a closer competitor to the Powerboost.
If it's based on TNGA-K it will likely be too similar to the Tacoma, they should really make the Stout off the TNGA-C like the Corolla Cross and utilize the newer Prius hybrid system
I would say it would be more likely to be based on the TNGA-C platform, especially since that a Toyota model called the Innova, which has been synonymous for being utilitarian, is now using the TNGA-C platform. So it might make sense for the Stout to be TNGA-C.
It needs to be based on the Camry/RAV4's platform, not the Corolla's. The A25A hybrid powertrain in the Camry/RAV4 is far superior to the one used in the Corolla. It not only beats the mpg figures by a few mpg, it is quite a bit more powerful accelerating the heavier Camry to 60 in only 6.9 sec. vs the Corolla's meager 10.2 sec. time. It does this because it can handle the weight of the vehicle better making it a far better fit for a small hybrid pickup. Unfortunately, I think the writing is already on the wall seeing the prospective reviews showing the Corolla pickup as the potential new hybrid pickup. Pity. It completely takes it off my plate of interest if it's going to be based on the Corolla's platform.
Kudos on improving hybrid technology… Toyota also needs to fire the bean counters that told the engineers to delete proper bump stops for the new Tacoma and 4Runner.
I’m both happy and disappointed over Toyota and hybrids. Happy because I purchased a Venza Limited for my daughter, greatly disappointed they are discontinuing it here. RAV4 all hybrid? I almost bought
Don't be. My 23 Rav4 XSE will soon be discontinued when 6th gen Rav4 debuts in a year or two with different design, style, parts, engine, etc. I see discontinued previous gen Venzas and Rav4's on the road. Oh, I also own a discontinued 07 Tacoma with 310+K miles. I would be greatly disappointed when replacement parts aren't available for my discontinued cars, but that hasn't been the case for Toyotas.
Well with the Venza model is killed in USA so resale value will go down. My wife has a 2019 RAV 4 but that’s not driven much. I still have 2004 & 2017 Lexus GX which are the best ones I’ve ever ever owned.
2023 Prius LE Awd owner here. Just rolled past 10k miles, and I have to say it's a joy to drive. I bought it as a daily driver, but it's pretty fun and kinda sporty, too. The hybrid system in the new Prius works really well. I have roughly a 500-mile range on about 10 gallons in the mountains of Colorado. Easy to live with. I respect Toyota/Lexus more than other manufacturers for making the decision to continue perfecting hybrid platforms. This appears to be the best decision for the near future.
I have a same year XLE AWD and what a perfect car it is. I'm taking it across the country and back in Oct. From here in Ca. to Maine, then Montreal, around the great lakes and back home. 3 1/2 weeks and 8000 miles or so. $600 in fuel cost is crazy!
@makatron I wish! I have the non Prime model, but the way the hybrid system works, you are in EV mode often. If I'm fully charged up, I can get approximately 2 to 3 miles pure EV range. I test drove the Prime, and the added range was nice, but I opted for eAwd for winter driving.😀
My 2023 Lexus ES300h with the fourth generation hybrid system and a 2.5-liter naturally aspirated engine is a beauty. She gets roughly 40 MPG in City/Hwy driving and I don't babysit her on the highway. It would be great if the Lexus LBX models were brought to the North American market. Sadly, Europe gets it and not us. We have the capital, not Europe to buy this vehicle. I tried to get a Venza Limited last year (before I lucked into the Lexus) and it was a "no-go". I tried for six months on a waiting list.
@@avdp9095 Bring them here, people hate EVs here and they are unaffordable for what you get. In addition, you have to add a 240-volt charger to your home garage, which is expensive in my opinion. PHEVs and HEVs are OK as long as it has a tried and true hybrid system matted to a proper naturally aspirated engine.
I agree with you on that. It seems like US dealerships have not great but at least decent inventories but Canadian dealers get whatever Toyta sees fit to send them and every time a dealer gets notification of a meager Toyota allocation it's a customer feeding frenzy to get whatever they can that's closest to their preference. I'm on the waiting list for a Toyota hybrid but tbh it feels like I'm enrolled in some kind of lottery. It just seems so random. And don't get me started on used Toyota hybrids, several 1000 dollars more expensive than same brand new model/trim.
here we have them but they are still in high demands so dealers choose whoever earns them the most didn't sell the car to me but the guy with a 60 months lease sure
I just want Toyota to allow Mazda to use the Corolla Cross hybrid system for a CX-30 hybrid already...sorry Toyota but the CX-30 is much more appealing than a Corolla Cross apart from the lack of a hybrid option
@@Unchainedmaple888 sure they’re partners in sharing factories and tech but the cards are more in Toyota hands here, so they have the privilege of picking and choosing if they want to share or not
European here i think what mazda is doing is fucking awesome like the skyactive x engine or 3.3l r6 diesel i dont know what mazda is doing in the us but over here in europe they engineers do some mad man stuff and i love it
The PHEV is basically an electric vehicle if most of your driving is short commutes and running errands in town. You could easily do 90% of your driving on electric only.
Toyota needs a hybrid with "performance orientation" built into its DNA. A 2.5 engine hybrid with over 280hp & 400Tq. Paired with a performance 8spd. Light (50%) weight battery in the7-10Kw range.
I'm good with this, but make the AWD rear motors strong enough to get you unstuck from slippage situations. Crown seams good based on slip tests I've seen.
I honestly think a plug-in hybrid is a better all-around option than a battery electric vehicle. Most people need only about 40 to 50 Mi of daily range and a plug-in hybrid fits that bill nicely while carrying around significantly less weight in batteries. Even when you take into account a small range extending engine and generator, it's still will weigh a lot less than having a gigantic skateboard tray underneath the car of batteries. Additionally, that drastically reduces the amount of cobalt and the amount of lithium needed to provide adequate range for these cars. The only time the fuel-driven engine would be needed would be for longer trips, and likely, the engine would not be used at all or very little for normal day-to-day driving.
I beg manufacturers, not just Toyota, to stop wasting time and resources on EVs (PHEVs even) and just go all in on hybrid production. There is not nearly enough hybrid supply to meet demand yet they wanna waste manufacturing bandwidth on EVs. Toyota themselves have said that for every EV, they could've built 100 hybrids. For every PHEV, they could've built 15 regular hybrids or something.
Gubmint is largely responsible for the massive waste on EVs. Even without an explicit EV requirement, the FLEET mpg standards pretty much require that they build and sell some EVs in order to continue to sell ICE.
@@Vamanos46that’s what the Ram Charger has too. Uses the Pentastar V6, about 130mi battery only and about 690mi total range. I’m not a Dodge guy at all, but this seems like an awesome setup!
@@anekinoo7Series hybrid setup from Chinese automakers are not new. Early hybrids in the 90s run this setup and the world has moved onto series-parallel setups now. There are pros and cons to each hybrid setup.
I'm not a big fan of the hybrid only trend, but I guess it makes sense for ease of manufacturing. Small turbo engines and the complexity of hybrid systems is going to make keeping a car for 20+ years challenging.
I have a 2006 2nd generation Prius which is now 18 years old. There has never been any issue with the drivetrain or the hybrid battery. It still gets the same great fuel economy.
@@brucetownsend691 My brother's 2007 Prius was finally retired with 359,000 miles in 2019. It was running on 3 cylinders the last 8 months and of course would not pass the annual smog check to renew tabs in Ca.
I just hope that when more hybrids and PHEVs are being produced, Toyota will offer more trim levels such as XLE, rather than just the "sport" trim levels (XSE, SE, S for Corolla Cross and XSE, SE for RAV4 PRIME.)
I really think that a next-generation Corolla wagon with a new hybrid drivetrain could actually hit the US market, sold primarily to the southern half of the continental USA (including California).
I believe with large volume dealerships there can be an almost arrogant mindset where they really don't value the customer. I had to fight for a recall on a RAV 4 years ago at my local dealership. They really don't need my business.
I've got my Corn Pops and my Coke Zero and I'm buckled in !!! Let's go !!! Kirk, Toyota has got this one right. Hybrids are the future. In NYC and other urban areas, EVs don't work. There is no infrastructure. Also, where I live, the northeast corridor spans between Boston and Washington DC, about 400 miles. With a gas car or hybrid, fill ups are easy. With EVs, charging times are not easy, especially in winter. If Toyota makes all their cars hybrids, the entire northeast market will be open to them. I don't know why other manufacturers have not figured this out. With that said, it's Mazda that pulls on my heartstrings. As an artist that went to Art Center in Pasadena, Ca., no mass market car manufacturer has a design language as beautiful and cohesive as Mazda's. There's a huge problem, however. Mazda only has two hybrids. I'm worried that Mazda will be pushed out of the market place if they don't get their act together and make their entire lineup hybrids. Go Team Mazda! You can do it. Also, Kirk, you know me. I keep beating this dead horse with a stick. I hate the cheap plastic infotainment screens that Toyota, Mazda, and most manufacturers use. They look like something they picked up from the Walmart toy aisle. I've long championed getting rid of the infotainment screens altogether and before anyone calls me a luddite, hear me out. I've long championed using a usb-c connector in the dash to hook up your phone when you need to use maps. Simple. Everyone said this was impossible. The amount of nasty messages I got was off-the-chain. Guess what? It's being done as I type this! You've got to check out the Citroen E-C3! Yay! In the base version of the Citroen, there is NO infotainment screen. Simply plug in your phone using the usb-c connector and you're good to go! So exciting. Kirk, I beg you. Please, make a video about the Citroen E-C3. I know it's not available stateside but it doesn't matter. The Citroen E-C3 is a simply brilliant and inexpensive car for the masses that revolutionizes automobile design. Stay awesome!
Keep in mind you're referring to here and now, as battery tech improves EVs are the future. As infrastructure builds out and range+charging speeds steadily improve they will outpace ice/hybrid. I have a PHEV and an EV. If you can charge at home and your commute both ways can be done on a charge (at home), it is a fraction of what fuel costs. My payment and running costs for my Chevy bolt = just my fuel costs for my '16 WRX that it replaced. Also greatly reduced maintenance on EVs. My largest complaint about the Mitsubishi PHEV is that it needs oil changes a few times per year (to maintain the 10yr warranty) even though the engine hardly runs. Urban areas: some of Europe has charger outlets strategically placed on their street light poles in urban areas. It can be done if there is will to do so. But in the long term EVs will be the go to for most people.
@@FACTOTUM_55 I can't argue otherwise. Yes, EVs are the future but... not yet. Widespread, sustainable infrastructure for urban commuters won't be in place for another 20 years hence why hybrids are so important at this time. You get the best of both worlds, 50 mpg, fast refill times, and expeditious commute up and down the eastern seaboard even in winter. Don't forget what happened with Teslas in the winter storms of Chicago this year. My issue with EVs are not with the drivetrain. Sure, go for it. Give us long range batteries, fast re-charge times, and reliability. The problem is with software, such as cameras that spy on you and sell your driving habits to insurance companies, subscription fees for heated seats and to maximize power, and glitchy video game dashboards. The list of problems with EVs outweighs their benefits at this point. How much digital crap do we need in our lives? Also, we will always have oil and gas. Are you willing to let the government legislate that this incredibly powerful source of energy be monopolized by the oligarchy? Gas stoves are banned in many municipalities. Speaking of which, Samsung just had a massive 1.2 million stove recall. Gas cars will be banned too. Will governments ban private jets and superyachts? Hell no. I would like to see a pure EV where the controls are knobs and switches and the drivetrain is electric. Outside the restomod community, this car doesn't exist, hence my astonishment with the upcoming Citroen E-C3.
Indeed. And it would be a hellalot more efficient outright. ICE is at its most efficient when its burbling away at a constant rpm with a constant load. And it can straight up do away with a traditional step-down transmission that saps power from the ICE. Directly recharging the battery via a motor-generator. N this has neat consequence of making the whole thing more simple.
I test drove Camry hybrid se awd 2025, car felt like a v6 with responsive acceleration and good handling. I test drove 2024 venza immediately and this felt like a cheap car compared to Camry and venza drones a lot to accelerate.
@@KirkKreifels I want to get rav4 hybrid with updated hybrid system like Camry 2025, I think in sport mode they are using rear motor to assist with acceleration.
i think redline tested 0-60 of a new camry hybrid with awd and it was in the mid-6 sec. Considering that the old V6 did 0-60 in like 6.2 sec, you really do not miss the v6 with the new gen
RAV4 has a shorter wheelbase than the Camry so a Camry PHEV should be no problem. I would also love a PHEV Sienna or Highlander though with a more even/rearward power split.
Considering how all of toyota’s real hybrids are essentially FWD, with the rear E-axle occupying a very small footprint, they can easily make a short 2seater roadster with what they currently have. N then if u put all that front to back… voila! MR2😂
They’re hybrids are really amazing and have ton of power, I don’t know why the federal government rejects the hybrid system when it’s way more superior than any EV.
I have said this like a broken record - but the government should have paid people to stick to or return to normally output sedans and wagons - and to get people to leave the SUV the car companies used marketing campaigns to make people believe to their core were cool and impressive (before that trucks were fantastic, but more in the sense of a good wrench or tractor). EV should have just been an evolution out of the work - it was 30 years of real world experience of Toyota and maybe 10 years with Hyundai - of hybrids. Hybrids are the most fantastic test bed for that technology evaluation and testing of both battery and various engines. One day - probably before 2035 if they let the engineers do their work - the engine would be such a small (but high technology) part of the power equation it would just have been a shrug - yeah the battery is doing 90% of the work now anyway - the tiny motor is there to keep it topped up to whatever level to run it in hybrid mode in optimized way. It was also natural to just have those smaller battery packs - shoot have a 12volt or whatever cord to top them up in like an hour off a regular socket like a cellphone.
I know this is talking about the US markets, but i do think the 'economy cars' Toyota mentioned is the models sold outside the US. Things like the Avanza which is sold in SE Asia & Mexico, Agya, regular Yaris, etc. I wouldn't even categorize the Corolla (both Sedan & Crossover) as "economy" in my country because its price is more than double compared to something like an Avanza (36k-ish for Corolla vs 17k-ish for Avanza)
Working for Lexus for 20yrs as a quality controller in Australia, I understand hybrid ,but I just took delivery of JDM Toyota Crown Extra with a 1jz-ge with 75000 klms on it , I rather keep a old Toyota going .
Canadian here. I made several inquiries with Toyota dealerships around the greater Toronto area about purchasing a 2024 RAV4 hybrid. No stock until at least 6 - 18 months. Bye bye Toyota, I don’t care how good and innovative the company is. No stock = no customers.
I love my 2010 Prius, but I really hoping Toyota comes out with PHEV versions of Tacoma pickup, 4-Runner, Landcruiser ... sooner than later. Hopefully something at the end of 2024 or early 2025. I hate waiting!!! Also, Toyota's thinking of BEV platform with small ICE is similar the Volt. Too bad GM canned it for the Bolt (really bad decision by GM).
I just picked up a 2021 Venza for my wife and we both love it. My only fear is when that battery needs to be swapped, it could cost me an arm and a leg. I hope they make replacement batteries cheaper in the next few years.
Toyota should just call the Corolla Touring Sport the Prius, and the new Prius the Prius Coupe, or Prius Sport. That's what I have, a Corolla Touring Sport 2.0L, which is basically, a Prius. Or even, the economical 1.8L hybrid 140 bhp. That has a slightly better fuel economy. But I think they want to discontinue the old 1.8L, unfortunately. It's cheap and does the job (Suzuki Swace, for example). Taxis in Europe love them.
I love Toyota's most excellent hybrids. However, I absolutely HATE TOYOTA's POOR CUSTUMER SERVICE! Their warranty on paper is typical, but in real life......GOOD LUCK WITH THAT!
Toyota is number One when it comes to Hybrid, everyone has hybrid but it is not the same. Personally I have had 2002 First Generation Toyota Prius 4 Dr sedan, the 2012 Toyota Prius have crossed quarter of a million miles without any major repair. My latest Hybrid is the 2021 Toyota Sienna just a few hundred miles to 100K milestone without a single issue other than new tires, oil changes, engine and cabin filters. That’s it and the 100K miles Sienna is running flawlessly just like brand new with everything works. Toyota is amazing indeed.
Corolla hatchback and TS is only in Hybrid since 2022 I think. The last Corolla with classic engine is the sedan, and it will also go hybridonly from 2025. The same case is with Yaris. The only non hybrid car sold by Toyota in EU will be Aygo X, and this model will live until the end of 2025.
Test drove a 2024 hybrid Highlander. The gas engine kicked in very early, meaning the use of the battery is limited. $54,000.00 for a hybrid highlander as driven.
Finally. There should be a few ICE-only. Models around for the foreseeable future, but at this point most models sold should be hybrids. So much more of a rational market approach than $60k BEVs.
i wanna see a plug in hybrid tacoma or on the lexus side an IS or bring the GS back for a little more space. i have about a 25 mile commute per day and a plug in hybrid would be absolutely mint in a more fun little speedier package or mid size truck
The 5th generation hybrid is very zippy off the line. You really feel that electric surge. Good torque and great gas mileage. Needs to be on the next Rav4.
If what Toyota has said about its development of solid state batteries is true, then that would explain a lot about why Toyota was pushing hybrids all along. They know that the dramatic range improvements will end people's concerns. Plus solid state batteries are safer.
If Toyota would release a Corolla Prime with a sub-6 0-60 time, I might have to consider that just because that sounds REALLY fun to drive, get that sky-high gas mileage, and maybe a relative bargain for fun-to-drive cars (well, hopefully).
There are too many variables (battery life, infrastructure, cost to replace, charging time) for pure EVs to be accepted by U.S. car owners. PHEVs are the obvious next step for all Toyotas. Make them, and they will sell.
Time is running out for hybrids. They are getting more expensive while full on EV’s getting cheaper and longer range with better batteries. Contrary to what people are saying in the comments here, EV are selling more and more every year.
New 2024 Land Cruiser is a hybrid with twin turbo +battery, 326 hp and 482 torque, it is a beast. Barely over 100 miles on the odometer so far and I really like it.
Europe's Corolla Touring Sports and Japan's Corolla Touring and Corolla Fielder are all amazing wagons. Japan's Probox may be the most amazing of all Toyota's affordable wagons. Of course, people in our market with a bigger budget will soon be able to buy a Crown Signia wagon.
Going completely electric vehicles are really not forward friendly wherever your drive is long distance because of charging stations across Canada and the United States being a continuous problem lack of locations or arriving to see several level 2 charge stations are down for service greetings from Ontario Canada
rav4 prime and such phev with bigger battery is nice but 40mi pure ev is already good enough. Just make it more obtainable and have the ability to charge with faster ac and they got it.
About the alternative fuels part bit by bit it’s being deployed in gas stations there’s a recent article where Germany for the first time is introducing HVO100 Diesel and hope to deploy more in their other gas stations in and out of the country
I’ve been a Toyota loyalist for 30 years, currently drive a 2021 RAV4 ice. If Toyota goes fully hybrid, I’ll have to look elsewhere. I don’t want, or need the added expense and complexity of a hybrid.
A plugin-hybrid sienna would probably be back-ordered for two years. Want a 2026? Delivery June 2028. Biggest problem with Toyota is that you can't actually buy them.
@@praneethjayasimha5943 I think Toyota is an interesting case study. Historically they are one of the worst companies for first year models and one of the best companies for later year models.
I want to see Toyota offer 2 types of hybrid engines for pickups and SUVs. One, what they are doing now, and a second engine similar to the Prius where a Tacoma gets 37 mpg and a Tundra that gets 28 - 30 mpg.
Hybrids make way more sense. Will have vastly higher adoption and do away with the negatives of EV only in places where you don’t live a few blocks from everything you need. Moreover, resale on a hybrid will be better than an EV every single time. Why? Because even a slowly decreasing battery capacity makes little difference to a hybrid. If it comes to replacement of a hybrid battery, you are looking at thousands instead of 60k as an owner of a new ionic found out in Canada. I will never touch a used EV, I believe a lot of people will feel that way and this will have its own downstream issues resulting in more “stuff being built”, why? Because you can’t fix a battery pack…but you can fix an engine. Toyota has the right of it.
The roof line of the Toyota Prius is so low now, that a new affordable Toyota Prius (model year 2027) that's built on a three inch thick 12 kWh PHEV battery pack serving as cabin floor, will be regarded as a massive improvement (raised seats, easier entry and exit, bigger trunk, better road handling), despite being obliged to raise the roof line by three inches. The 12 kWh PHEV battery pack will cycle 6000 times a 6 kWh net guaranteed energy that's providing a 25 miles pure electric range, and capable to deliver a 140 kW peak electric power. The battery cells store 700 Wh per liter. They do not overheat when forced to discharge at a continuous "10 C" rate. A 2 kW inductive (wireless handsfree) charging modality will come as standard. Range in hybrid mode, approx 450 EPA miles .
These hybrid engines will run on various fuels in the future. Toyota has NO plans to go full on battery electric. Toyota said that by 2050, that will be their carbon neutrality plan.
Buying a PHEV with enough Lithium and Cobalt to do 50 miles a day is probably better for the environment than buying enough Lithium and Cobalt to do 300 miles - who does 300 miles in a day other than an occasional trip? The battery is the expensive resource. Why buy more than you need?
Well, the thing is Toyota's BEV technology isn't that great. That's why they are releasing plug-in hybrid versions of already hybrid cars, instead of directly giving an EV version. If you check out the efficiency of the electric drive trains in their plug-in models and their first electric models, you'll notice that the efficiency is pretty bad. We're talking about under 3 miles/KWh for motors that are less than 200hp
I still feel like MPG numbers are too low for the tech we have these days. My old 1991 Honda Civic SI got 50 MPG easy, I understand it was only 2000 LBS but it was a 1.6 litre engine. Modern hybrids should be getting 75 MPG since they use electric assists.
I just wish they made everything a little more performant. Going to 2.5 hybrid across the board just means rather slow vehicles everywhere with no 3.5 option or turbo option. (7.4s 0-60 on the camry hybrid). I do realize the 0-30 is probably reasonably quick though due to the electric motor torque.
Its like having a horse just in case while driving a petrol car on the journey. EVs are superior in every metric, when grid and infrastructure is roled out, it will be obivious.
I completely agree!! Toyota not jumping on the BEV bandwagon saved them hundreds of millions!! Hybrids and PHEV and the possibility of a PHEV with a small engine to charge sounds like an amazing strategy! I own an RX450H+ and am anxiously awaiting my TX550H+ that I put a deposit on over 18 months ago! The majority of my driving in the RX has been in BEV mode, except on my 3 1100 Mile trips from Canada to SC. I absolutely LOVE the RX, especially in BEV mode where you don't even hear it! Toyota will have their ability to mass produce Solid State Batteries by the time demand starts to pick up which will put them into a Leadership position in the BEV marketplace... Toyotas strategy is AMAZING and Tesla is absolutely Floundering... Musk is a MAJOR problem for Tesla. He is personally alienating most of his customer base given his political affiliation with Trump. His energy conscious customers in CA, don't like Trumps lets fire up our "clean" coal plant philosophy.
Driving a 2009 Prius now at 347.000km nearly trouble free, I do realize that Toyota has missed the transition to EV. A hybrid will not be able to compete on cost with an EV shortly. The added complexity of ICE and transmission simply can't compete with the simplicity of an EV drive train. My Prius requires 3 times the energy of a Tesla model 3 for the same distance. Also Toyota is far away from producing a software defined car.
The hybrid leader and no one is close
To hell with hybrid just withdraw customer money in maintenance
Honda says hello
BYD? MG?
@@Sossauphonda is good but not even close. Honda even started their hybrid with the help of toyota
Except in trucks. The F150 Powerboost is better in almost every way. I was hoping the Tundra Hybrid was going to be a closer competitor to the Powerboost.
Electric Vikings gonna have a seizure.
No, his people still believe Toyota going bankrupt for not going full electric
It sooo obvious that Toyota has missed the boat! 😂😂😂
Sam Evans believes every green blog that he reads "a new (unnamed) study claims...".
🤣😂😭
EV fans have seizures over incorrect pronouns.
we need a ford maverick hybrid competitor!! A new Toyota stout based off the new Rav4/camry would be amazing
If it's based on TNGA-K it will likely be too similar to the Tacoma, they should really make the Stout off the TNGA-C like the Corolla Cross and utilize the newer Prius hybrid system
I would say it would be more likely to be based on the TNGA-C platform, especially since that a Toyota model called the Innova, which has been synonymous for being utilitarian, is now using the TNGA-C platform. So it might make sense for the Stout to be TNGA-C.
It needs to be based on the Camry/RAV4's platform, not the Corolla's. The A25A hybrid powertrain in the Camry/RAV4 is far superior to the one used in the Corolla. It not only beats the mpg figures by a few mpg, it is quite a bit more powerful accelerating the heavier Camry to 60 in only 6.9 sec. vs the Corolla's meager 10.2 sec. time. It does this because it can handle the weight of the vehicle better making it a far better fit for a small hybrid pickup. Unfortunately, I think the writing is already on the wall seeing the prospective reviews showing the Corolla pickup as the potential new hybrid pickup. Pity. It completely takes it off my plate of interest if it's going to be based on the Corolla's platform.
Thank the chicken tax, we totally lost out on not getting stouts here. I’ve seen insane builds already.
they wont do this, it will kill the tacoma
Kudos on improving hybrid technology… Toyota also needs to fire the bean counters that told the engineers to delete proper bump stops for the new Tacoma and 4Runner.
I’m both happy and disappointed over Toyota and hybrids. Happy because I purchased a Venza Limited for my daughter, greatly disappointed they are discontinuing it here. RAV4 all hybrid? I almost bought
Don't be. My 23 Rav4 XSE will soon be discontinued when 6th gen Rav4 debuts in a year or two with different design, style, parts, engine, etc. I see discontinued previous gen Venzas and Rav4's on the road. Oh, I also own a discontinued 07 Tacoma with 310+K miles. I would be greatly disappointed when replacement parts aren't available for my discontinued cars, but that hasn't been the case for Toyotas.
Well with the Venza model is killed in USA so resale value will go down. My wife has a 2019 RAV 4 but that’s not driven much. I still have 2004 & 2017 Lexus GX which are the best ones I’ve ever ever owned.
The crown that the venza replaces is better in every way
Venza is kinda lost in the pack. Get the ux or corolla cross
@@StormBringer-i think venza is only offered in the USA
2023 Prius LE Awd owner here. Just rolled past 10k miles, and I have to say it's a joy to drive. I bought it as a daily driver, but it's pretty fun and kinda sporty, too.
The hybrid system in the new Prius works really well. I have roughly a 500-mile range on about 10 gallons in the mountains of Colorado. Easy to live with.
I respect Toyota/Lexus more than other manufacturers for making the decision to continue perfecting hybrid platforms. This appears to be the best decision for the near future.
I have a same year XLE AWD and what a perfect car it is. I'm taking it across the country and back in Oct. From here in Ca. to Maine, then Montreal, around the great lakes and back home. 3 1/2 weeks and 8000 miles or so. $600 in fuel cost is crazy!
Getting 40-ish EV miles in the mountains?
@makatron I wish! I have the non Prime model, but the way the hybrid system works, you are in EV mode often. If I'm fully charged up, I can get approximately 2 to 3 miles pure EV range. I test drove the Prime, and the added range was nice, but I opted for eAwd for winter driving.😀
My 2023 Lexus ES300h with the fourth generation hybrid system and a 2.5-liter naturally aspirated engine is a beauty. She gets roughly 40 MPG in City/Hwy driving and I don't babysit her on the highway. It would be great if the Lexus LBX models were brought to the North American market. Sadly, Europe gets it and not us. We have the capital, not Europe to buy this vehicle. I tried to get a Venza Limited last year (before I lucked into the Lexus) and it was a "no-go". I tried for six months on a waiting list.
Lbx is a massive salesflop in Europe sofar.....due to no EV option, no marketing and not enough dealerships
@@avdp9095 Bring them here, people hate EVs here and they are unaffordable for what you get. In addition, you have to add a 240-volt charger to your home garage, which is expensive in my opinion. PHEVs and HEVs are OK as long as it has a tried and true hybrid system matted to a proper naturally aspirated engine.
Kirk, North of the border we are living 'on the fumes' of Toyota Hybrids because the dealers certainly don't have them in stock. 🤨
I agree with you on that. It seems like US dealerships have not great but at least decent inventories but Canadian dealers get whatever Toyta sees fit to send them and every time a dealer gets notification of a meager Toyota allocation it's a customer feeding frenzy to get whatever they can that's closest to their preference. I'm on the waiting list for a Toyota hybrid but tbh it feels like I'm enrolled in some kind of lottery. It just seems so random.
And don't get me started on used Toyota hybrids, several 1000 dollars more expensive than same brand new model/trim.
@@ivanidread Exactly
here we have them but they are still in high demands so dealers choose whoever earns them the most didn't sell the car to me but the guy with a 60 months lease sure
My local dealers have basically zero inventory of any models. A few Tundras. That’s it. Pathetic
I got the cx90 because I could not deal with this frenzy. Toyota is losing tons of sales in Canada.
I'm all for hybrids, but there needs to be something safer than Lithium Ion batteries. Those scare the shit out of me.
I just want Toyota to allow Mazda to use the Corolla Cross hybrid system for a CX-30 hybrid already...sorry Toyota but the CX-30 is much more appealing than a Corolla Cross apart from the lack of a hybrid option
Give up the mpg for the cx30
In sense of sales, why would they give the advantage they have in that sector over to the competitor
Cause they're supposed to be "partners" not rivals. Part of the agreement of buying like 10% of Mazda was that they would share tech and what not
@@Unchainedmaple888 sure they’re partners in sharing factories and tech but the cards are more in Toyota hands here, so they have the privilege of picking and choosing if they want to share or not
European here i think what mazda is doing is fucking awesome like the skyactive x engine or 3.3l r6 diesel i dont know what mazda is doing in the us but over here in europe they engineers do some mad man stuff and i love it
The PHEV is basically an electric vehicle if most of your driving is short commutes and running errands in town. You could easily do 90% of your driving on electric only.
Unfortunately, by the time Toyota makes a plug-in Sienna Hybrid, the base models will go for $60,000 and the top trims $80,000+
The fact the Odyssey starting is now $43k, Sienna might follow suit of dropping the lower trim.
80k for a plugin sienna is worth it!
Toyota needs a hybrid with "performance orientation" built into its DNA. A 2.5 engine hybrid with over 280hp & 400Tq. Paired with a performance 8spd. Light (50%) weight battery in the7-10Kw range.
toyota dna is dead long ago. they built plants in mexico and all over the world and messed up everything.
At least for the PHEVs, they have 3 drivetrains: performance, range (primes) and torque/haul (trucks)
It was genius for Toyota to make all new Camry hybrids.
Build a Maverick competitor!!!! And, keep the price competitive with the Maverick. I’ll be in line for one.
Yes. The Maverick is a 2.5l NA hybrid. Make the Toyota hybrid pickup also 2.5l NA as well. Keep the Prius and Corolla powertrains out of the picture.
Maverick price ain’t competitive anymore
I'm good with this, but make the AWD rear motors strong enough to get you unstuck from slippage situations. Crown seams good based on slip tests I've seen.
I honestly think a plug-in hybrid is a better all-around option than a battery electric vehicle. Most people need only about 40 to 50 Mi of daily range and a plug-in hybrid fits that bill nicely while carrying around significantly less weight in batteries. Even when you take into account a small range extending engine and generator, it's still will weigh a lot less than having a gigantic skateboard tray underneath the car of batteries. Additionally, that drastically reduces the amount of cobalt and the amount of lithium needed to provide adequate range for these cars. The only time the fuel-driven engine would be needed would be for longer trips, and likely, the engine would not be used at all or very little for normal day-to-day driving.
I beg manufacturers, not just Toyota, to stop wasting time and resources on EVs (PHEVs even) and just go all in on hybrid production. There is not nearly enough hybrid supply to meet demand yet they wanna waste manufacturing bandwidth on EVs. Toyota themselves have said that for every EV, they could've built 100 hybrids. For every PHEV, they could've built 15 regular hybrids or something.
Or EV with ice range extenders - like Genesis/ Hyundai will be launching within 5 years
EREV. Thats the new hybrid tech. Gas engine is use to charge the battery instead of power train. China is already ahead of the game.
Gubmint is largely responsible for the massive waste on EVs. Even without an explicit EV requirement, the FLEET mpg standards pretty much require that they build and sell some EVs in order to continue to sell ICE.
@@Vamanos46that’s what the Ram Charger has too. Uses the Pentastar V6, about 130mi battery only and about 690mi total range. I’m not a Dodge guy at all, but this seems like an awesome setup!
@@anekinoo7Series hybrid setup from Chinese automakers are not new. Early hybrids in the 90s run this setup and the world has moved onto series-parallel setups now. There are pros and cons to each hybrid setup.
I would be the first in line if they brought back the Corolla Wagon for the US.
That thing was UGLY.
Had a corolla 1.8 hybrid as a courtess car and achieved 68 MPG.
I now own a Lexus UX250h which achieves an average 53 MPG.
I’ve thought for the last 10yrs that hybrids a better option than EV only. So many advantages to a hybrid over an EV.
In Europe they've gone full hybrid since 5 years at least
I'm not a big fan of the hybrid only trend, but I guess it makes sense for ease of manufacturing. Small turbo engines and the complexity of hybrid systems is going to make keeping a car for 20+ years challenging.
Toyota eCVT(hybrids and primes) is not a traditional belt and cylindrical cone cvt mechanism, it’s a simple planetary gear set - very durable
I have a 2006 2nd generation Prius which is now 18 years old. There has never been any issue with the drivetrain or the hybrid battery. It still gets the same great fuel economy.
@@brucetownsend691 My brother's 2007 Prius was finally retired with 359,000 miles in 2019. It was running on 3 cylinders the last 8 months and of course would not pass the annual smog check to renew tabs in Ca.
UK here, our RAV4s (and other models)have been hybrid only since around 2017/18. They are mostly front wheel drive, the AWD versions are quite rare.
I just hope that when more hybrids and PHEVs are being produced, Toyota will offer more trim levels such as XLE, rather than just the "sport" trim levels (XSE, SE, S for Corolla Cross and XSE, SE for RAV4 PRIME.)
I really think that a next-generation Corolla wagon with a new hybrid drivetrain could actually hit the US market, sold primarily to the southern half of the continental USA (including California).
I believe with large volume dealerships there can be an almost arrogant mindset where they really don't value the customer. I had to fight for a recall on a RAV 4 years ago at my local dealership. They really don't need my business.
I've got my Corn Pops and my Coke Zero and I'm buckled in !!! Let's go !!! Kirk, Toyota has got this one right. Hybrids are the future. In NYC and other urban areas, EVs don't work. There is no infrastructure. Also, where I live, the northeast corridor spans between Boston and Washington DC, about 400 miles. With a gas car or hybrid, fill ups are easy. With EVs, charging times are not easy, especially in winter. If Toyota makes all their cars hybrids, the entire northeast market will be open to them. I don't know why other manufacturers have not figured this out. With that said, it's Mazda that pulls on my heartstrings. As an artist that went to Art Center in Pasadena, Ca., no mass market car manufacturer has a design language as beautiful and cohesive as Mazda's. There's a huge problem, however. Mazda only has two hybrids. I'm worried that Mazda will be pushed out of the market place if they don't get their act together and make their entire lineup hybrids. Go Team Mazda! You can do it.
Also, Kirk, you know me. I keep beating this dead horse with a stick. I hate the cheap plastic infotainment screens that Toyota, Mazda, and most manufacturers use. They look like something they picked up from the Walmart toy aisle. I've long championed getting rid of the infotainment screens altogether and before anyone calls me a luddite, hear me out. I've long championed using a usb-c connector in the dash to hook up your phone when you need to use maps. Simple. Everyone said this was impossible. The amount of nasty messages I got was off-the-chain. Guess what? It's being done as I type this! You've got to check out the Citroen E-C3! Yay! In the base version of the Citroen, there is NO infotainment screen. Simply plug in your phone using the usb-c connector and you're good to go! So exciting. Kirk, I beg you. Please, make a video about the Citroen E-C3. I know it's not available stateside but it doesn't matter. The Citroen E-C3 is a simply brilliant and inexpensive car for the masses that revolutionizes automobile design. Stay awesome!
Keep in mind you're referring to here and now, as battery tech improves EVs are the future. As infrastructure builds out and range+charging speeds steadily improve they will outpace ice/hybrid. I have a PHEV and an EV. If you can charge at home and your commute both ways can be done on a charge (at home), it is a fraction of what fuel costs. My payment and running costs for my Chevy bolt = just my fuel costs for my '16 WRX that it replaced.
Also greatly reduced maintenance on EVs. My largest complaint about the Mitsubishi PHEV is that it needs oil changes a few times per year (to maintain the 10yr warranty) even though the engine hardly runs.
Urban areas: some of Europe has charger outlets strategically placed on their street light poles in urban areas. It can be done if there is will to do so. But in the long term EVs will be the go to for most people.
@@FACTOTUM_55 I can't argue otherwise. Yes, EVs are the future but... not yet. Widespread, sustainable infrastructure for urban commuters won't be in place for another 20 years hence why hybrids are so important at this time. You get the best of both worlds, 50 mpg, fast refill times, and expeditious commute up and down the eastern seaboard even in winter. Don't forget what happened with Teslas in the winter storms of Chicago this year. My issue with EVs are not with the drivetrain. Sure, go for it. Give us long range batteries, fast re-charge times, and reliability. The problem is with software, such as cameras that spy on you and sell your driving habits to insurance companies, subscription fees for heated seats and to maximize power, and glitchy video game dashboards. The list of problems with EVs outweighs their benefits at this point. How much digital crap do we need in our lives? Also, we will always have oil and gas. Are you willing to let the government legislate that this incredibly powerful source of energy be monopolized by the oligarchy? Gas stoves are banned in many municipalities. Speaking of which, Samsung just had a massive 1.2 million stove recall. Gas cars will be banned too. Will governments ban private jets and superyachts? Hell no. I would like to see a pure EV where the controls are knobs and switches and the drivetrain is electric. Outside the restomod community, this car doesn't exist, hence my astonishment with the upcoming Citroen E-C3.
ev with range extender is the vehicle of future
Indeed. And it would be a hellalot more efficient outright. ICE is at its most efficient when its burbling away at a constant rpm with a constant load. And it can straight up do away with a traditional step-down transmission that saps power from the ICE. Directly recharging the battery via a motor-generator. N this has neat consequence of making the whole thing more simple.
hopefully the next improvement of TNGA-C platform design much better than current version. At least, the size must bigger as civic
I test drove Camry hybrid se awd 2025, car felt like a v6 with responsive acceleration and good handling. I test drove 2024 venza immediately and this felt like a cheap car compared to Camry and venza drones a lot to accelerate.
Now just imagine the Venza with the 5th gen hybrid ... too bad we won't get it. but the next Rav4 will.
@@KirkKreifels I want to get rav4 hybrid with updated hybrid system like Camry 2025, I think in sport mode they are using rear motor to assist with acceleration.
i think redline tested 0-60 of a new camry hybrid with awd and it was in the mid-6 sec. Considering that the old V6 did 0-60 in like 6.2 sec, you really do not miss the v6 with the new gen
new camry is the goldilocks of camrys 😁 not too fast not too slow
RAV4 has a shorter wheelbase than the Camry so a Camry PHEV should be no problem. I would also love a PHEV Sienna or Highlander though with a more even/rearward power split.
Considering how all of toyota’s real hybrids are essentially FWD, with the rear E-axle occupying a very small footprint, they can easily make a short 2seater roadster with what they currently have.
N then if u put all that front to back… voila! MR2😂
They’re hybrids are really amazing and have ton of power, I don’t know why the federal government rejects the hybrid system when it’s way more superior than any EV.
a choice of ev range and extender range on purchase would be ideal
I have said this like a broken record - but the government should have paid people to stick to or return to normally output sedans and wagons - and to get people to leave the SUV the car companies used marketing campaigns to make people believe to their core were cool and impressive (before that trucks were fantastic, but more in the sense of a good wrench or tractor). EV should have just been an evolution out of the work - it was 30 years of real world experience of Toyota and maybe 10 years with Hyundai - of hybrids. Hybrids are the most fantastic test bed for that technology evaluation and testing of both battery and various engines. One day - probably before 2035 if they let the engineers do their work - the engine would be such a small (but high technology) part of the power equation it would just have been a shrug - yeah the battery is doing 90% of the work now anyway - the tiny motor is there to keep it topped up to whatever level to run it in hybrid mode in optimized way. It was also natural to just have those smaller battery packs - shoot have a 12volt or whatever cord to top them up in like an hour off a regular socket like a cellphone.
I know this is talking about the US markets, but i do think the 'economy cars' Toyota mentioned is the models sold outside the US.
Things like the Avanza which is sold in SE Asia & Mexico, Agya, regular Yaris, etc.
I wouldn't even categorize the Corolla (both Sedan & Crossover) as "economy" in my country because its price is more than double compared to something like an Avanza (36k-ish for Corolla vs 17k-ish for Avanza)
I hope next green rav4 and Camry has more mpg on highway and for rav4, more mpg on city, for hybrids. Even better, if we get Camry prime.
They need to make it he Awd more capable for hybrid. If not, there is no hope for rav 4 hybrid being rugged enough
Working for Lexus for 20yrs as a quality controller in Australia, I understand hybrid ,but I just took delivery of JDM Toyota Crown Extra with a 1jz-ge with 75000 klms on it , I rather keep a old Toyota going .
Canadian here. I made several inquiries with Toyota dealerships around the greater Toronto area about purchasing a 2024 RAV4 hybrid. No stock until at least 6 - 18 months. Bye bye Toyota, I don’t care how good and innovative the company is. No stock = no customers.
Get a gas vehicle from Toyota, you will get it quicker
@@alvinsimba734 agreed but interested in hybrid at this point.
I love my 2010 Prius, but I really hoping Toyota comes out with PHEV versions of Tacoma pickup, 4-Runner, Landcruiser ... sooner than later. Hopefully something at the end of 2024 or early 2025. I hate waiting!!! Also, Toyota's thinking of BEV platform with small ICE is similar the Volt. Too bad GM canned it for the Bolt (really bad decision by GM).
I just picked up a 2021 Venza for my wife and we both love it. My only fear is when that battery needs to be swapped, it could cost me an arm and a leg. I hope they make replacement batteries cheaper in the next few years.
After our first Toyota Avalon Hybrid a 2015 I am sold. It has been built proof reliable and 36+mpg in real world driving.
Toyota should just call the Corolla Touring Sport the Prius, and the new Prius the Prius Coupe, or Prius Sport.
That's what I have, a Corolla Touring Sport 2.0L, which is basically, a Prius. Or even, the economical 1.8L hybrid 140 bhp. That has a slightly better fuel economy. But I think they want to discontinue the old 1.8L, unfortunately. It's cheap and does the job (Suzuki Swace, for example). Taxis in Europe love them.
Toyota actually will be copying the BYD hybrid model.
I love Toyota's most excellent hybrids. However, I absolutely HATE TOYOTA's POOR CUSTUMER SERVICE! Their warranty on paper is typical, but in real life......GOOD LUCK WITH THAT!
Toyota is number One when it comes to Hybrid, everyone has hybrid but it is not the same. Personally I have had 2002 First Generation Toyota Prius 4 Dr sedan, the 2012 Toyota Prius have crossed quarter of a million miles without any major repair.
My latest Hybrid is the 2021 Toyota Sienna just a few hundred miles to 100K milestone without a single issue other than new tires, oil changes, engine and cabin filters. That’s it and the 100K miles Sienna is running flawlessly just like brand new with everything works. Toyota is amazing indeed.
Corolla hatchback and TS is only in Hybrid since 2022 I think. The last Corolla with classic engine is the sedan, and it will also go hybridonly from 2025. The same case is with Yaris. The only non hybrid car sold by Toyota in EU will be Aygo X, and this model will live until the end of 2025.
Test drove a 2024 hybrid Highlander. The gas engine kicked in very early, meaning the use of the battery is limited. $54,000.00 for a hybrid highlander as driven.
All this anticipation of better technology is the primary reason I have not bought a new car yet. 😅
Right... it's just the evolution of existing stuff.
Finally. There should be a few ICE-only. Models around for the foreseeable future, but at this point most models sold should be hybrids. So much more of a rational market approach than $60k BEVs.
i wanna see a plug in hybrid tacoma or on the lexus side an IS or bring the GS back for a little more space. i have about a 25 mile commute per day and a plug in hybrid would be absolutely mint in a more fun little speedier package or mid size truck
From thinking of Kia Sportage Hybrid to going to Toyota when it comes to hybrid. Venza to Lexus NX and finally landed on Lexus RX350H.
The 5th generation hybrid is very zippy off the line. You really feel that electric surge. Good torque and great gas mileage. Needs to be on the next Rav4.
If what Toyota has said about its development of solid state batteries is true, then that would explain a lot about why Toyota was pushing hybrids all along. They know that the dramatic range improvements will end people's concerns. Plus solid state batteries are safer.
Thanks Kirk! I love gobbling up this stuff. You make it quick and easy!
i own a rav4 hybrid and love it
If Toyota would release a Corolla Prime with a sub-6 0-60 time, I might have to consider that just because that sounds REALLY fun to drive, get that sky-high gas mileage, and maybe a relative bargain for fun-to-drive cars (well, hopefully).
There are too many variables (battery life, infrastructure, cost to replace, charging time) for pure EVs to be accepted by U.S. car owners. PHEVs are the obvious next step for all Toyotas. Make them, and they will sell.
Time is running out for hybrids. They are getting more expensive while full on EV’s getting cheaper and longer range with better batteries. Contrary to what people are saying in the comments here, EV are selling more and more every year.
they better put that 1.5 turbo hybrid in the corollas too
My 2025 Camry LE is averaging 62.5mpg so far with 2250 miles on it. 75% highway miles 60mph max
I'll be first in line to buy a corolla plug-in.. after it's been out for 2 years already.
New 2024 Land Cruiser is a hybrid with twin turbo +battery, 326 hp and 482 torque, it is a beast. Barely over 100 miles on the odometer so far and I really like it.
are these new Toyotas gonna use Solid State batteries?
Solid-state batteries may not appear until 2030. It will be used in Chima first.
Corolla wagon would be amazing.
Europe's Corolla Touring Sports and Japan's Corolla Touring and Corolla Fielder are all amazing wagons. Japan's Probox may be the most amazing of all Toyota's affordable wagons. Of course, people in our market with a bigger budget will soon be able to buy a Crown Signia wagon.
Having the best hybrid system is the last nail to the coffin if they really say so. BYD DM-i is already a way ahead.
Would more people appreciate RAV4 Prime in cheaper XLE trim?
I would.
Still got my 05 Prius 283k gets 43 mpg
Going completely electric vehicles are really not forward friendly wherever your drive is long distance because of charging stations across Canada and the United States being a continuous problem lack of locations or arriving to see several level 2 charge stations are down for service greetings from Ontario Canada
rav4 prime and such phev with bigger battery is nice but 40mi pure ev is already good enough. Just make it more obtainable and have the ability to charge with faster ac and they got it.
Personally I’d love a 60-70 EV range prime. Commutes in Bay Area and Los Angeles are nuts because few can afford to live closer to work
About the alternative fuels part bit by bit it’s being deployed in gas stations there’s a recent article where Germany for the first time is introducing HVO100 Diesel and hope to deploy more in their other gas stations in and out of the country
Need a Highlander redesign that's more land cruiser looking.
Don’t think that’ll happen. I’m pretty they’re discontinuing it.
I’ve been a Toyota loyalist for 30 years, currently drive a 2021 RAV4 ice. If Toyota goes fully hybrid, I’ll have to look elsewhere. I don’t want, or need the added expense and complexity of a hybrid.
A plugin-hybrid sienna would probably be back-ordered for two years. Want a 2026? Delivery June 2028. Biggest problem with Toyota is that you can't actually buy them.
not reliable these days
@@praneethjayasimha5943 I think Toyota is an interesting case study. Historically they are one of the worst companies for first year models and one of the best companies for later year models.
I would totally buy a plug-in hybrid corolla wagon
I want to see Toyota offer 2 types of hybrid engines for pickups and SUVs. One, what they are doing now, and a second engine similar to the Prius where a Tacoma gets 37 mpg and a Tundra that gets 28 - 30 mpg.
Hybrids make way more sense. Will have vastly higher adoption and do away with the negatives of EV only in places where you don’t live a few blocks from everything you need. Moreover, resale on a hybrid will be better than an EV every single time. Why? Because even a slowly decreasing battery capacity makes little difference to a hybrid. If it comes to replacement of a hybrid battery, you are looking at thousands instead of 60k as an owner of a new ionic found out in Canada. I will never touch a used EV, I believe a lot of people will feel that way and this will have its own downstream issues resulting in more “stuff being built”, why? Because you can’t fix a battery pack…but you can fix an engine.
Toyota has the right of it.
The BMW M5 is available as a wagon for North America. I hope and pray the Corolla comes as a wagon 🙏
The roof line of the Toyota Prius is so low now, that a new affordable Toyota Prius (model year 2027) that's built on a three inch thick 12 kWh PHEV battery pack serving as cabin floor, will be regarded as a massive improvement (raised seats, easier entry and exit, bigger trunk, better road handling), despite being obliged to raise the roof line by three inches.
The 12 kWh PHEV battery pack will cycle 6000 times a 6 kWh net guaranteed energy that's providing a 25 miles pure electric range, and capable to deliver a 140 kW peak electric power. The battery cells store 700 Wh per liter. They do not overheat when forced to discharge at a continuous "10 C" rate.
A 2 kW inductive (wireless handsfree) charging modality will come as standard.
Range in hybrid mode, approx 450 EPA miles .
These hybrid engines will run on various fuels in the future. Toyota has NO plans to go full on battery electric. Toyota said that by 2050, that will be their carbon neutrality plan.
We need a new prius V
Sienna?
3:15 the RAV4 prime came out in 2020 as a 2021 model.. and a if they don’t make a prime Sienna it’d be a BIG mistake
Gen3 -2010 Prius rocks!!
just got whole car repainted via Toyota warranty 👍
Buying a PHEV with enough Lithium and Cobalt to do 50 miles a day is probably better for the environment than buying enough Lithium and Cobalt to do 300 miles - who does 300 miles in a day other than an occasional trip? The battery is the expensive resource. Why buy more than you need?
We want a plug-in hybrid midsize sedan priced in the 30s CDN.
...waiting
Aaaaand your dead from waiting
The prius was NOT the first hybrid, it was the insight.
Actually it was the Prius. It came out in Japan in 1997, but didn’t come to the US till 2000. The insight came out in 1999 in the US.
@@xzimxzim like I said.
my 2012 Matrix going strong!! only 88,000km!
Well, the thing is Toyota's BEV technology isn't that great. That's why they are releasing plug-in hybrid versions of already hybrid cars, instead of directly giving an EV version.
If you check out the efficiency of the electric drive trains in their plug-in models and their first electric models, you'll notice that the efficiency is pretty bad. We're talking about under 3 miles/KWh for motors that are less than 200hp
Not a fan of hybridizing everything but gotta say those new cars look real good.
I still feel like MPG numbers are too low for the tech we have these days. My old 1991 Honda Civic SI got 50 MPG easy, I understand it was only 2000 LBS but it was a 1.6 litre engine. Modern hybrids should be getting 75 MPG since they use electric assists.
No It didnt dude 😂😂
Would love to see toyota wagon hybrid!
The rumor is that the redesigned Sienna is coming for 2027 model. Would be huge to see a plug-in hybrid. Near-end game.
It’s due for a refresh for 2025
@@jxmar_ Refresh, yes. Redesign, no.
@@CarnivoryHODL for a redesigned Sienna will have to wait until the end of the decade
please toyota, can the US market PLEASE have a corolla HATCH hybrid??? you already have it in the UK, just send us a few 🙏
Fr!!
Plug-in hybrid is the way to go!
I just wish they made everything a little more performant. Going to 2.5 hybrid across the board just means rather slow vehicles everywhere with no 3.5 option or turbo option. (7.4s 0-60 on the camry hybrid). I do realize the 0-30 is probably reasonably quick though due to the electric motor torque.
Its like having a horse just in case while driving a petrol car on the journey.
EVs are superior in every metric, when grid and infrastructure is roled out, it will be obivious.
I completely agree!! Toyota not jumping on the BEV bandwagon saved them hundreds of millions!! Hybrids and PHEV and the possibility of a PHEV with a small engine to charge sounds like an amazing strategy! I own an RX450H+ and am anxiously awaiting my TX550H+ that I put a deposit on over 18 months ago! The majority of my driving in the RX has been in BEV mode, except on my 3 1100 Mile trips from Canada to SC. I absolutely LOVE the RX, especially in BEV mode where you don't even hear it! Toyota will have their ability to mass produce Solid State Batteries by the time demand starts to pick up which will put them into a Leadership position in the BEV marketplace...
Toyotas strategy is AMAZING and Tesla is absolutely Floundering... Musk is a MAJOR problem for Tesla. He is personally alienating most of his customer base given his political affiliation with Trump. His energy conscious customers in CA, don't like Trumps lets fire up our "clean" coal plant philosophy.
Driving a 2009 Prius now at 347.000km nearly trouble free, I do realize that Toyota has missed the transition to EV.
A hybrid will not be able to compete on cost with an EV shortly. The added complexity of ICE and transmission simply can't compete with the simplicity of an EV drive train.
My Prius requires 3 times the energy of a Tesla model 3 for the same distance.
Also Toyota is far away from producing a software defined car.
The Yaris is an economy model under the Corolla!