JAWS 2 4K COMPARED to JAWS 4K UHD
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- Опубликовано: 30 ноя 2023
- This is a comparison of the Jaws 2 4K UHD Blu-ray release against the Jaws 4K UHD originally released in May 2020. Jaws is quite possibly the best 35mm to video transfer I've seen so far but because some comments had come in about Jaws 2 being just as good, I thought it would be an idea to scrutinize them both to see how well Jaws 2 holds up. It's pretty good.
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Jaws was scanned at 8K 16bit…it was then downsampled to 4K. There is a short documentary on RUclips on the restoration of the movie for the 4K release from Universal. It’s a great insight into how much work and love they put into the release. Definitely worth a watch.
As always, another interesting and insightful video from yourself 👏🏼
That's the documentary where I took the information from but I thought they said 5.6K. If it was 8K then that surely proves the point so thank you for that. If only 70mm was scanned at 15K and IMAX at 45K then we might see even better imagery on the best 4K home movie disc releases. John.
@@moviecollector5920 such a shame then that all the classics aren’t given the same love as this film was. Jurassic Park comes to mind as does Star Wars, and many more. I’m sure you could make a separate video on just this subject alone, the movies that you would like to see receive the same treatment as Jaws did, and then have the studio make a short documentary on the processes.
@@SuperExige The time it takes has got to be a factor Talat. I expect 4K is a bit of a compromise but at least there aren't many being done at 2K any longer. Such a shame that Last Night In Soho was only done at 2K otherwise that might have looked so much better than it did. But the movie business is a business and it's all about making money. It's fabulous that we're even getting this quality on video now which I never would have thought was possible. Just a shame we're not readily able to see real film in cinemas very often these days. After all, what's the point in going if cinema is only offering the same as what you can see at home a few months later?
John.
@@moviecollector5920 interesting points John. So originally we were watching 35/70mm prints when we used to go to the cinema, then the advent of digital, we were/are watching 2K DI. All of the studios have archived their inventory digitally, they have been cleaned and restored either with 8K or 4K scans, and there is a recent trend where classics are being rereleased at the cinemas in 4K. For me this is a treat, as I was either too young to see the movie or missed it completely at the cinema. The Godfather 4K restoration and release back into the cinema for its 50th Anniversary is one that comes to mind. I was 5 when that was released in the cinemas, and so many more that I missed, Apocalypse Now!! so there is still a valid reason for us to see the 4K home releases at the cinema, on the biggest screen with the best audio we can find. That’s coming from me, I own a Sony laser projector with a 117” screen (couldn’t get bigger for my room😕) with a 7.4.2 Atmos sound setup. The big epics/blockbusters still have to be experienced at the cinema, Oppenheimer, Dead Reckoning, The Creator are a few examples that I watched at the cinemas and will be owning on 4K physical media for the home 😊
That restoration doc is for the Blu-ray, not the 4K. And it doesn’t even mention a specific scan resolution.
I think for those of us who've seen Jaws 2 on various formats countless times over the years, we weren't really expecting anything special from the 4K presentation of Jaws 2. Even in the opening shots, I sat up in my chair quite taken aback as to how good it looked. I've never seen Jaws 2 look as good as it currently does on this 4K disc, I think its quite special. Great video as always John, its always great to hear your opinion.
I wish I could remember seeing it in the cinema but for some reason I have no recollection of it other than I went. That possibly says a lot about what I thought of it. I have seen it since but on a television broadcast so that doesn't really count. I did see the Super 8 'Scope 400 foot reel and that was much better than the whole thing. John.
@@moviecollector5920oh they did recently show some movies on film here oppenheimer was shown on film it even broke down in Michigan and they had to find a projectionist repair person a few places you could go see it on film for some reason.
Great video. I'm delighted that, despite constantly comparing the two films, you never once committed that egregious crime of referring to Spielberg's masterpiece as "Jaws 1".
Hey, will, how goes things?
@@garyharper2943 Hey Gary, all good here thanks, hope all's well with you. Just about to watch 1917, one of my favourite films of the millennium so far.
Strangely, it's never occurred to me that anyone might refer to Jaws as 'Jaws 1'. I'll keep an ear out for it from now on. John.
@@3D_Blu-ray_Bunker I love it too. Just got Darkest hour going to watch it and Dunkirk back to back. We’re good also.
In my opinion, Jaws is a perfect film.
Probably about as close as any film has ever come to being perfect. John.
HMV on Oxford Street is out of this world. A well curated film & TV floor (yes, an entire floor) and really nice engaging staff.
I picked up The Fugitive on 4K for £15.99. One advantage of working round for corner for a couple of weeks. Best wishes, Dave
Well done Dave. I can guarantee that The Fugitive will look fabulous because I have a Super 8 print of the film which originated by way of a 35mm print and it still looks sensational. That's confirmation that it started out as a great looking film, which is how I remember it on opening night at the Warner West End. Now then, is the video floor downstairs where it always used to be? I'm looking forward to getting back there.
John.
Most excellent John, thank you! A personal tidbit, Jaws 2, like Close Encounters, was filmed near my home area north Florida and south Alabama; Jaws 2 at Navarre Beach, FL. in the Florida panhandle. Cast and crew stayed at the Navarre Beach Holiday Inn, and several scenes filmed inside the motel's indoor pool area, and immediately behind the beach side motel for outdoor/ocean scenes. Close Encounters of Third Kind, about an hour west in Mobile, AL. I forget the sequence, but both filmed in 77/78 I believe, with Jaws 2 definitely spring/summer 1977.
Thank you for the information Pete. I expect your local area was selected for calm seas and steady weather. Presumably not shot during the hurricane season then! John.
Jaws was a Spielberg Classic too and Jaws 2 a Studio cash in. Great review as usual John. I saw Jaws at the ABC theatre in Coventry on a panavision screen (i think) in the late 70's. I was very young, but it was amazing and I loved it. The whole family went. As we did back then :)
I'd read the book before we went to see it as a family. One of the most memorable cinema visits I ever had as a child. My father had already seen it months before as he was in Africa at the time and they got prints before we did over here. He hasn't swum in the sea since! John.
Fantastic. I myself was just as impressed. I really hope that the 3D transfer of Jaws 1 will be made available on home media - the stereoscopic version of Jaws 3 is outstanding
Oh gawd, they haven't turned Jaws into a 3D film really have they? I did see Jaws 3D but that was one I didn't like much at all back then. Perhaps if it comes out as a 4K disc it will be time to see if my opinion has changed. I hope so. I fancy having another look at the 1978 Piranha so these films do seem to have an effect. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Unfortunately, although the original Jaws 3 is in 3D, it is a bad film and not worthy to be a sequel to Jaws, the only good thing about it is the fun 3D so I don't think even a 4K would help it haha! Yes, surprisingly in 2022 on September 2nd, the stereoscopic conversion of the original Jaws had a limited release in cinemas. Unfortunately was unable to catch that one myself, but in 2023 I saw the stereo 3D version of the original Jurassic Park screened and it was excellent. Spielberg's sense of depth is one of the best and that comes out in the stereo projects he has overseen.
In France, Spielberg's film was called "Les Dents De La Mer"; I always thought of this one as "Les Dents De La Merde".
That very subject is covered in 'The French Joke' extra featurette. Well done Louis. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Ah! Well, I suppose it was too obvious a joke to have been original! Plus ca change..!
Thanks for another wonderful review, John! Jaws 2 on 4K looks sooo good that it classes up the film ALMOST as good as the original Jaws for me, despite its obvious cash grab status.
There have been a few comments on here that are highly enthusiastic about Jaws 2 Mike. I don't credit it anywhere near as good a film as Jaws but it's good to know it's got some good support out there. John.
Nice work John.....id prefer if they kept the extras off the 4k disc and used the extra space to bump up the bit rate of the film..... Thanks again John 👍
Would we notice any difference though Roy? Possibly, but probably only if we have a 25 foot wide screen at home, John.
Thanks for the Tip. I just bought a copy of splice on EBAY. Looking forward to it!!
John
I hadn't thought of looking on eBay. Well done John.
John.
Thanks + look forward to more 4K reviews (I purchased American Graffiti on 4K after your last review and it knocked the blu-ray out of the park!).
Thank you Daniel. A lot of reviews seemed to get American Graffiti wrong but that would be an easy mistake to make if you don't know what TechniScope is. John.
If I recall, John, I was enjoying John Williams’ new music for Jaws 2 more than the film when watching in the cinema in ‘78… I subsequently bought the soundtrack LP and played it endlessly… Therefore, having a soft affection for the film, I imported the 4k in a sale, as the US version also includes a blu-ray, but, unlike many releases there is no difference in the extras between the two discs.
I read some negative comments that the audio on the 4k release is only ‘2.0’ thereby only having the original mono soundtrack. That’s ok with me since it’s the original audio and not re-purposed. I don’t mind these re-purposed or revisionist soundtracks, but I like a release when it also includes the original audio mix.
It’s good to hear that ‘Splice Here’ is going to receive a wider blu-ray release. I’m looking forward to viewing it.
As always, thanks for the review video and take care. Steve
Good point about the music Stephen because it is wonderful. If this release had have been a nicer package when it was released six months ago or whenever it was then I would have paid the £25 for it, but picking it up in FOPP and feeling that it was a bit lightweight I thought I'd be better off spending £25 on a couple of other releases. That was a shame at the time because people had asked me to review it. As it's turned out I managed to get it for just £12.50 in that 2 for £25 sale and I've still managed to fashion a sort of 4K review out of it so it was a win all around really.
Splice Here: A Projected Odyssey should be coming soon and I'll keep my ear to the ground so I can hopefully point everyone to where to buy it sometime next year - and hopefully early next year.
John.
Good video, John!
Like yourself, I'm a huge JAWS fan, but I also love JAWS 2. It can't touch the original of course (what could?) but I think it does a good job of recapturing a lot of the feel of its predecessor despite being shot mostly in Florida.
I think what allows it to stand on its own merit is John Williams great music. He really scored the heck out of that movie with some wonderful new themes that help to give it a flavor of its own.
The teen actors aren't very good, but the movie really comes to life anytime Roy is onscreen.
And it's funny how the movie itself is like a slasher, isn't it? I'm a huge fan of that genre; maybe that's why I love 2 so much.
Anyway, I just got the 4K/blu ray combo in the mail the other day, and look forward to watching it soon.
Funnily enough Bill, I only said to my wife today that Jaws 2 is more like a slasher film but that format hadn't really taken off in 1978 and came after the success of Halloween. That's always been my understanding of it anyway. The major factor in the success of Jaws was the three leading men. Without that magic ingredient the film would have been a shadow of what it was and that it largely what is missing in Jaws 2. That and some horror perhaps because there's not really anything grizzly shown on screen that I can recall right now. Fun for anyone who can't get enough of Jaws and that was largely why I finally fancied taking another look at it. John.
Great review John :)
I think Jaws 2 is a pretty good sequel and I really enjoy it. Of course it's not as good as the first film but it's worth watching in my opinion and it got most of the original cast. It's a shame Richard Dreyfuss didn't return in Jaws 2. He refused because Spielberg didn't direct the film.
And the Hooper character should have been killed off in reality. Might have made a mockery of the book which I thought was excellent and why I could not wait to see the film back in 1975. I enjoyed the first hour of Jaws 2 but I wouldn't say that I particularly like it overall. I do like the image quality of this 4K though. John.
I’ve always loved J2- it’s probably my favourite sequel of any. I think it’s been played more times in my life than any of the god-awful Star Wars or Raiders of the Lost Ark sequels.
There are quite a few fans of Jaws 2 who have commented in here Mark so you're certainly not alone. It's not one of my favourites but I don't consider it to be a bad film by any means, just not particularly good. I did still enjoy it though, the first half for sure. John.
Hi John, thanks for the video. The collector in me wants to pick Jaws 2 up but the realist in me tells me that I won’t watch it much! (Though I probably remember watching the sequel more times than the original on VHS when I was a kid).
I would love to hear more about your thought process around how you calibrate your setup film by film. As you say, every set up is different but hearing about your process might help me learn a few things.
All the best
There's nothing much to it Rich but I have a basic happy medium on this video projector to which I tinker a little for just about every disc. Interestingly we've just watched the new Indiana Jones 4K disc and the best settings were exactly the same as Jaws and Jaws 2 4K discs. The brightness of the image on this video projector is the main consideration because it's too bright most of the time. This is an issue I see on just about every television and I think it's because people have been convinced by someone that brightest is best which it certainly isn't. To get a filmic look it needs to be easy on the eyes and that basically means darker. John.
Greetings John. In light of your experience with the two protectors, which one would you say is the better one?
The later one which is the UHZ50 Timothy. This is mainly because it has better contrast capabilities but the colour density of the UHD550X may be more impressive some of the time, if not most of the time. It took me much longer to get the best out of the later projector but it is more complicated so probably shouldn't be too surprised about that. Both are excellent machines. The UHD550X is about six years old now so can probably be found as a second hand bargain for anyone thinking of dipping their toe into projection for the first time.
John.
Hi John! Dang Couldn't resist that beauty of a steelbook for AG. Love Jaws and yes like and accept Jaws 2 but with many ...please no more after that lolololol. The will make a great double feature I think and based on your review i'm ok to pick this up. I do as you know watch on my 65 4k tele so ... no screen for me (YET) but do love my tele. Trev at Double Bill gave me some great tips on calibrating and such but how much fun is it? Really enjoy these visits through your reviews thanks again Have a great weekend D!!
That American Graffiti steelbook is one of the best I have Dave. I don't have many but some of them are real beauties and that is one of them. Trevor's a very nice person and extremely knowledgeable. It's wonderful that he's helping people around the world. i should have let him have a play with my video projector but I didn't even think about it. I expect he'd prefer a slightly different look to me but I don't suppose he'd be too far away from my own preferences as he also appreciates a projected image that looks like film. There's nothing like having a projected image on a big screen because that's what cinema is so it's always been a lot of fun for me to do it in miniature. But I used to enjoy watching LaserDiscs and early DVD's on our first widescreen telly which we purchased in February 1995. That was the first sub £1000 set available in the UK and we had it for 23 years. Video projection came of age during that time of course so it was only used for watching television from 2006 but I loved it and was almost heartbroken when it finally had to go to the knacker's yard. Watching films on a great television is still a wonderful thing to be able to do. Who would ever have thought home video would get to be as good as it is now. I never believed it would but I'm so happy that it has.
John.
Great review thanks. Love the original and have it on 4k looks stunning. Out of interest what 4k film looks the best in your opinion?
TENET. All the best looking home videos originated on large film formats but TENET and DUNKIRK are probably the pinnacle. On my other 4K projector MURDER ON THE ORIENT EXPRESS looks best but it's always been close. John.
@moviecollector5920 Thanks for the reply John. I will have to take a look at them then thanks. I only have about 30 4k movies at the moment so I'm looking at different films to get. I watched interstellar the other night and though that was really good.
@@excaliber32 INTERSTELLAR is a case in point as much of it is genuine 15/70 IMAX with some standard 70mm too. Even the anamorphic 35mm sequences look better than most movies shot on video. But to fully appreciate that film you've got to see it in a genuine IMAX cinema and not one of the faux IMAX ones. There were 29 left in the world for OPPENHEIMER but owing to the success of that one IMAX Corp. are looking to get the best film presentation format back out into the world so there's hope for the movie industry yet. John.
@moviecollector5920 oh ok that's good to know. 👍
John
The 4k Edition of Jaws sounds very good . I would quess there will be 50 year Anniversary 4k of Jaws next year ..i have only seen jaws 2 once long time ago . Sounds great on 4k .
All the best
If there is a 50th edition of JAWS next year then it's bound to be the same 4K disc because there's no way to improve upon it. The same can be said for this JAWS 2 disc but it's just not in the same league as a film. Others disagree with me about that it's just that they're wrong! Snort! John.
Over the decades i always found Jaws 2 to have a kind of melancholy vibe to it (i blame the score a little for that). If it were a colour it would be Grey. If that makes sense. The hdr colour grade for Jaws 2 on uhd completely erases that depressing look, and makes it far more watchable.
Am happy with 2.0 soundtrack but it's basic compared to the Atmos work done for the first movie.
Great video as always 😄
It was missing the magic ingredient that made the first film so special and that was the relationship between the three leading men. Roy Scheider was left to carry this one through on his own and it was lacking something as a result. That and the makers didn't want to show people getting butchered to ensure an 'A' certification over here and all audiences in the USA. John.
A fantastic video as ever and I was glad to get a deluxe version on release with lobby cards posters etc so was overjoyed. I would like your opinion in the future for the last part I.e. limited distribution. Slip covers or no slip covers etc etc. I myself have had to go to America for barbarella on 4k and conan 4k and my friends are now ordering abroad because they are more likely to get slipcovers and don't want rocky 1 and 3 with a cover and 2 and 4 without socks a collector what's your thoughts ? For me I agree with slipcovers it's almost guaranteed abroad for all of them to have them. It's not an issue forcme though as I get steelbooks. Anyway excelsior sir
I do like to get slip covers now Del but before people like John at Mondo Chelloveck Movies made me more aware of them I didn't care much, if at all. I tend to put these discs on the shelf and there they stay until the next time they come out for a watch so it doesn't really make much difference. But because of people like John I have become a little more fussy and rather enjoy finding copies with nicer presentations. I've even got into those darned steelbooks! American Graffiti is a beauty and for just £25. Amazing. John.
Would really appreciate if You could show us your fiddling process. I am very curious which setting you change. Thanks allot
I've been through that many times. For these two it was to reduce the light output of the laser but this time selecting 'Eco' worked best and then set the HDR to 75%. It won't be the same for every system and so it's a question of playing. People don't tend to experiment so much with tellies but even with a television the backlight, the brightness, contrast and HDR can all be tweaked to suit a disc. Best of luck. And never stop fiddling!
John.
Hi John I am still hoping that the original 1975 JAWS will get a blu-ray 3D release following its limited cinema run a while back, I did hear that the conversion was well done by folk who had seen it at the cinema, that's one must have 3D if they release it. Regarding "Splice Here" its available at present for both Australia and New Zealand. I have watched it twice so far using the Epson VP, including the extras are excellent as well, a future must have blu-ray for those else where when it comes out.
A 3D version of Jaws sounds a bit like heresy to me Graham... but then again, now that I've said that I'd better look up what 'heresy' actually means!
I did see that Potential Films are shipping to New Zealand as well but I only saw that when I went on-line to get the link to enter into the description of this video. In other words, I was too late as I'd already sat down and recorded all the waffle. I haven't watched the Blu-ray yet other than all the extras/outtakes which are excellent. As soon as I learn of a disc release for elsewhere in the world I'll include the information in a future video. I'm very pleased to have a copy on Blu-ray.
I hope the weather down there is a little warmer than it is here right now. At least the fog is clearing. John Carpenter could have shot another film here overnight it was that thick. A real pea-souper.
John.
You and me both, Graham. I went to see it and, yes, it was a very well done conversion: It managed to make one of my all-time favourite films look even better. Such a shame that the 3D version existed for just a very brief moment in the cinema and is now very possibly gone forever. I mean, I do think it's something of a travesty that Jaws 2 gets a 4K UHD release, but the 3D version of Jaws doesn't get a Blu-ray release. On the plus side, Spielberg's other legacy conversion, Jurassic Park, is a stunning 3D Blu-ray (and, for me, by far the best way to watch that film).
I saw "Jurassic Park" on 3D at the cinema, but thought the conversion was not that great, fast forward to the blu-ray 3D and watching it on a Epson VP using active 3D glasses, and this time round "Jurassic Park" looks great. I totally agree with your comments that, its now "the best way to watch that film" @@3D_Blu-ray_Bunker
I will say this John that nothing has ever come close to watching JAWS at the cinema along with 1400 people screaming in the dark when that severed head popped out. To this day I cannot watch that scene without covering my eyes. My brain has been wired that way ever since 1975@@moviecollector5920
Great video John. Babylon 5 is out on blu ray December 4th. I can’t recommend this show enough.
I never watched Babylon 5 Chuckyfan. I don't think I'd have the time any longer to get through a long series but I am going to get the latest Picard Blu-ray release. That's only ten episodes I think so I'll be able to manage it over a few weeks. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Blackadder is also coming to blu ray. I’ve never watched that. I might watch it all over Christmas holidays from work.
Splice Here is also being shipped to New Zealand, so people who know a Kiwi will be able to get hold of it.
I only spotted that after I'd recorded the video so thank you for pointing it out Andy. I've heard that Jacinda Ardern is offering to receive the discs and ship them out worldwide now that she's out of work. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Auntie Jacinda is good like that!
Will "Splice Here" run on my USA 4K Player??? (International) Looking for it on Amazon, but cannot find it. EBay Maybe???
So far it's only available in Australia and for shipping to Australia and New Zealand. That should change soon though if Rob's plans and hopes work out. It should be worth the wait Bob. John.
They do offer a sign up on their website to be notified once they start shipping internationally, so I'll just keep an eye on my mailbox myself 😊
Hi John, Excellent review and comparisons with Jaws & Jaws 2. Thank you. Spoolbox
Thank you Fred. We're both very much enjoying your retrospective of the East Berlin cinemas at the moment. It's so interesting to see what the cinemas were like and hopefully still are. Amazing that one that's been operating since 1909. John.
Awesome video as always, wonder if JAWS 3 will get the 4K treatment?
I suppose a lot depends on how well the second film sells and how well home video discs are doing in general. I think I saw it in 3D when first released but didn't like it much. Actually, I don't think I liked it at all and I don't think I've watched it since. Maybe if there's an active 3D Blu-ray I should give that a try as it was all a long time ago. John.
@@moviecollector5920 I also didn’t enjoy that film but I guess I’m hoping for it for completing the set. Unfortunately JAWS the Revenge is a guilty pleasure for me 😂
@@darthrevan1344 Apparently when Sir Michael Caine was asked if he'd seen Jaws 4 he replied, "I haven't but I've heard it's awful. I've seen the house it paid for though and it's beautiful." One Michael Caine could have come back with something so eloquent on the spur of the moment. John.
The only thing that stayed consistent from Jaws to Jaws 2 was the soundtrack and acting bar the kids.
There was a lot that was good, some that was not so good, but overall it didn't seem to come together into a cohesive whole and therefore I didn't find it to be a particularly good film. It's not bad though by any means. John.
I saw Jaws 2 in January 1979 at the Empire Leicester square with my mum . I was lucky enough to get the limited edition of Jaws 2 .better case.
Funny to think that the standard release was £25 when first released and yet the latest Arrow Films of Carrie in that big special presentation is only £30. I only saw Jaws 2 at my local cinema but it would have been a whole lot better at The Empire. What a special place that cinema was.
John.
Jaws 2 soon as you thought it was safe to go back and buy the film
I'm still gonna' need a bigger screen though. John.
Love Jaws and the 4k disc is so good, jaws 2 is also a cracking film that has fond memories for me, and i was happy with the 4k disc , managed to get the steelbook version for that. great video John
Jaws is still among the best I have and although Jaws 2 doesn't quite match the image quality of that 1975 film it's still very good. Glad you like Jaws 2 Aidey and you managed to get a steelbook. John.
John, although JAWS 2, 3, and 4 weren't massive blockbusters like the first one they did all actually do quite acceptable business: JAWS 2 , budget $25 million, worldwide box office $188 million. JAWS 3, budget $18 million, worldwide box office $88 million. JAWS 4, budget $22 million, worldwide box office $52 million. So admittedly the returns were progressively diminishing but they all girl-aged to sneak a profit. BTW John, i watched JAWS 2 on TV circa 1981 and thought it was pretty good but i don't recall much about the 3rd and 4th ones, were they any good ?.
I have seen the third and fourth films Barry but sadly I can barely remember anything other than I thought they were pretty awful. Jaws 3 had the novelty of 3D but it wasn't enough to turn it into anything special. Might work better nowadays with LCD glasses. John.
Evening John,another interesting and informative video,Jaws is an amazing film so was no surprise that the sequel couldn't live up to it but I still enjoy it all the same,will probably pick it up in the 2 for 25 deal.
It's a good quality 4K disc Marty so it's worth looking at. I'm just taking a look at your OPPENHEIMER review. Well done for getting one of the steelbooks. I would have liked that but no chance over here by the time I realized it was available to pre-order. John.
I very much appreciate your reviews while my setup does not match yours I have an Optoma Projector and Blu Ray Player. I will not be upgrading to 4k due to expense but I find the film like image I get is excellent Regards from Trevor In Australia.
Blu-ray is excellent Trevor. Quite often you'll find there's so little difference that it's almost indiscernible. Nothing beats having a big projected image. John.
I will be picking up Jaws 2 later this year and am very interested in the documentary.
It's a good disc Rey. The film may not be particularly memorable but as a curiosity for those of us who loved JAWS it's a nice one to accompany that original masterpiece. John.
Can’t wait to see your review of the GOAT sequel- Aliens The Directors Cut 4K
I hope it's the real version of the film because apart from the smart guns sequence in the re-hashed version I think the additions spoil it. Surely it's got to be the original version of this great film or perhaps a seamless branch will take anyone to the extended version. I live in hope. John.
Hi John, another interesting and insightful video as always. Thaank you.
Thank you Theo. John.
Im not keen on Jaws 2 either tbh will have to give it rewatched at some point. Good Video mate
I felt the time was right but possibly only because enough people asked me when the 4K was first released earlier this year. I don't think I'll be watching it again for a long time as it's not really that good. It's not bad, it's just not particularly good. John.
Great insight John as always. Sadly I won't bother getting it. Imo it should never have been made Jaws, E.T. Close Encounters never needed a part 2 👍🏻
I don't entirely disagree with you there Ron. But it did make a big return on investment and that is what film making is all about. John.
@@moviecollector5920 For those in the business yes it is mate but I guess for us fans we can all be a little selfish with our reasons. As I get older I find myself liking sequels less and less 👍🏻
@@RonD84 I find the same thing Ron. There have been exceptions such as the Alien sequel Aliens. The Terminator Sequel and even a few of the Star Wars sequels. Although none of those sequels have ever surpassed the originals for me. Aliens came closest. John.
No time yet to watch but will this weekend @Movie Collector. Look forward to your expert view on it. Jaws 2 was my first Jaws back in 1980 or so and a fond love for this one. Love the movie and ordered the excellent 4k steelbook with superb artwork “seeing the waterskiing girl from the shark’s mouth” right away.
First I was slightly disappointed but the nuance and detail is subtle and compared to my blu ray it is a substantial (to me at least) upgrade.
It ain’t showcase material but worth my 30 Euro.
Now awaiting Arrow’s 4K version of 1979’s The Warriors in its theatrical cut and just received the Italian 4K disc of The Good The Bad And The Ugly, The Firm and Clear and Present Danger to hopefully watch this weekend!
Evening Pieter. I'm a big fan of The Warriors but not so much that re-hashed version with the comic book sequences. I have the Super 8 3x400ft edition and that's probably even better than the complete film. Sometimes the forced cuts made for ingenious editing that simply worked. It's about 48 minutes and doesn't let up from beginning to end. As for The Good, The Bad & The Ugly, I'm pretty sure that's another TechniScope so the next step up from 16mm. People have told me it's excellent and I'm sure they're right because so is American Graffiti shot using the same half size 35mm format.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 warriors has a 4K of the original cinematic version without the annoying comic book stuff in it.
So the Super 8 is a 45 minute cut? It does not have the UK TV version footage in it has it? It’s footage of the Warriors assembling at the pier at sundown and one of them having a discussion with hos girlfriend that does not want him to go. He ignores her warning and walks to the station with the other Warriors near dark. The camera then lans to the ferris wheel we all know from the start of the film.
I recorded it on DVD from the BBC back in 2004 or so and it is rough quality as I recorded it in SP mode to fit more footage on a dvd-r. Now I wished I hadn’t. But at least I have it preserved with my 5 other Warriors blu ray releases and box sets. Now finally the 4K release comes.
Seeing the GB&U in 4K only makes me want a Once Upon a Time a Time in The West 4K release even more. Heard some rumors on it being on the horizon but silent for quite some time.
Watched your video tonight and glad you enjoy Jaws 2 aswell and your explination on the bitrate and the quality difference it causes compared to Jaws 1.
John,
I too, saw "Jaws 2" in it's initial theatrical release. I have the restored bluray version of "Jaws," which happens to be one of my two favorite movies. The other favorite is John Carpenter's "The Thing."
I looked at purchasing "Oppenheimer" in 4K from Amazon U.S., it was $49.99 earlier in the week, so it will be on my list of movies to purchase in a few months.
James
I looked up Oppenheimer on the Bull Moose home movie and music chain in the USA James (someone else came across the same issue as you) and it was normal price so that could be worth investigating. I presume they ship nationwide so that should save a bit of money as well as avoiding the dreaded Amazon. John.
Hello from across the pond. I took saw Jaws 2 (and Jaws) in the theater. Great memories and have both on 4k with the original looking a little better, imo.
On Oppenheimer 4k in US, I don't know if the shipping would be outrageous on ebay, but I sold mine today for $22 minus the digital. But, I saw new ones for $30. Word of advice, a lot of the interior shots are way too red in colour. I had to put my tiny level in the green. But then the exterior shots weren't as good. Not really a happy medium there. I wish it was in Dolby Vision. Ta 😊
*tint level*
@@tedmetalhead6177 Morning Ted. It's a shame you sold your copy of OPPENHEIMER as there won't be many home video releases that are better. The red problem you encountered probably isn't unique to your system alone but it does indicate there is something amiss somewhere. Ensure you have things like tint set to zero and hue isn't mistakenly up too. Other than that it will just be a questions of tinkering until you find out what caused it. Best of luck. John.
@@tedmetalhead6177 Aha! I hadn't seen your later comment Ted but I see that you've found the problem. Well done. John.
I agree here whilst Jaws is definitely rhe winner jaws 2 looked fantastic on my 4k tv. The colours certainly popped, shame about the sound quality tbh, they could have used a dts hd audio track or even atmos, but i found the sound sometimes very muffled. But great review, john
It wasn't at all muffled in here Dave but I expect many home systems will have struggled with the soundtrack. It looked very good at ten feet wide and I think we'd find it would still look pretty good fifty feet wide. When a film looks good from the original shoot then it shrinks down to all the other formats to exhibit similar superior quality. Interestingly, some of Jaws 2 was shot 16mm. I wonder if that was for the shark point of view shots so that the cameraman wouldn't have a rig quite as cumbersome as a 35mm camera while riding on the model at high speed.
Re-working a soundtrack is a lengthy and expensive process. Perhaps Universal didn't consider this film to be worth the extra expense and effort. Jaws was a different kettle of fish!
John.
@moviecollector5920 yeah your prob right. Jaws sounded absolutely amazing, and the pic quality is spot on. I dunno maybe I need to tweek things for jaws. 2.
@@davefilms345 I found the best settings for Jaws 2 seemed to be those I'd established for Jaws. Strange that you're not getting similar results. Make sure all the digital 'enhancements' are off or minimized because they do nothing other than mess up your picture and it's possible different discs give varying results. John.
Jaws 2 is a perfectly serviceable sequel but it's one that never truly should've been made, not having Hooper or a character even near to the magnitude of Shaw's Quint also speaks volumes.
Quite right Andy. It's the three leads in Jaws that made it so special. Not the only ingredient of course but that was the magic ingredient. John.
The bluray of Jaws 2 looks good enough. Sometimes the jump to 4k doesn't really bring anything to the table. Newer films look exceptional 1080p. I did a quick Top Gun Maverick 4k/1080p comparison earlier and I can't seen any resolution difference at all. The HDR makes the 4k look darker in places. But my tv and player are excellent at upscalling 1080p to 4k so that might be the reason. Probably why I can't tell the difference between Jaws 4k and the 1080p version. Cheers John.
The 4K of Jaws is superior to the Blu-ray but the Blu-ray is excellent. Same with the Top Gun sequel. Sometimes it's impossible to tell but the bigger the screen the easier it is. I always found that I could more easily discern Super 8 film quality with the biggest image possible. Our room back then was 10ft 3" so that's why we ended up with a ten foot wide screen. You certainly miss the size when you have to use something a little smaller so it's good to finally get back to that size.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 Yeah the bigger the image the more the resolution comes into play. 4k seems to be more suited to 100in images or bigger. My friend has 2 projectors, 1080p always looked very soft on projection compared to tv picture. Cheers.
@@cp070476 HD did used to look soft but it shouldn't any longer with more recent video projectors. Television is usually much smaller than a projected image and therefore the size differential means the smaller the image the sharper it will be. This is why special effects used to be completed to a level that the artists could get away with because cinemas had huge screens. That's not the case any longer of course but in addition to that people are watching movies on televisions and even telephones these days. They can't get away with anything any longer. John.
@@moviecollector5920 He's after a 4k projector but they can be very expensive. JVC especially. £7000 is a lot of money. Cheers.
Jaws is in a class by itself. Thanks John
One of the greatest films of all time as far as I'm concerned Craig. John.
It's always a good decision to take a quick look at Jaws, John. I think it's about as close to a perfect movie as there is. I was lucky enough to see Jaws the first time in cinemas during a revival in the mid-80s (10-year anniversary, I think), and I remember while I was leaving the auditorium that my fingers were so sore because I was gripping the armrest so hard. Also, if you can, let us Yanks know when Splice Here might make it to the States?
I saw Jaws in 1975. I've forgotten how they got it through the censor over here but I have the original trailer on Super 8 film and there's a notice at the end warning parents that it's been given an 'A' which meant children could see it if accompanied by an adult. I'd already read the book so loved every moment.
I'll pass on any further information about Splice Here: A Projected Odyssey in future videos as and when it becomes available. It's a great film documentary.
John.
Picked this one up but haven't watched it yet. Also just back from the wee Scotsman picturehouse, after seeing Napoleon... It certainly had it's entertaining moments.
Cheers, John.
Ridley Scott films are always worth watching. I can't say the story of Napoleon particularly interests me usually but because of Mr. Scott's name on this one I'm sure to want to see it. It looks like some of it was shot 65mm and there are 70mm prints so it might be worth seeking out a cinema still able to screen film. But that's only worth doing if the editing is finished on film and I don't suppose it was. Should make for a good (maybe one of the best) 4K though with 65mm being used in places. John.
@moviecollector5920 Aye, it's a good looking film but I think that you'd be best served by the rumoured extended edition. It seemed to skip past some events far too quickly. The battle scenes are well done, if not historically accurate.
Also the "love" scenes were absolute cringe and I was on a first date. I was trying hard not to laugh.
@@dougquaid570 As long as he doesn't win the battle of Waterloo I think I can put up with the re-writing of history Doug. John.
I’m new and really liking your videos. Big time collector and own Jaws almost I’m every format except film. I even own the R CA Videodisc version CED. Being into film making using film then we went to the video age. Love my home built 3D stadium seating theatre. I’m wondering if you are familiar with video calibration disc. Not so much the Spears and Munsel (if that’s how you spell it) but the Disney two discs set titled WOW. The reason I prefer the Disney one is it came with a blue filter you placed over your eye to help you calibrate your colour and tint of your TV/Projector. And because we can save many tv settings. I’ve made my calibration exactly how the discs suggest based on the motion picture industry. And then one setting where I’ve tweaked it a bit to my liking and haven’t had to adjust my tv/projector again. Except at the time I was doing this. There was no disc made to help calibrate 3D viewing. So I made one and gave it to the Theatre Forum Community as a iso download for free so they could burn or use the file to calibrate their own projector/tv. But a half a year later a company came along with a disc for 3D calibration. Anyways if you didn’t know about the Disney Wow disc. You may want to take a look into. If you can still find the BLURAY. Or maybe your audience. Thanks again! - Toronto, Canada.
I was told years ago that Universal did have full length Super 8 prints of Jaws for people at the studio to take home and watch. I don't know how true this was but it has long intrigued me to wonder if one day I will come across a feature print of Jaws on the baby film gauge. I hope they used low fade stock though.
I never rely on anything other than my eyes to set up any equipment. I think I'm a little different to most because I watch film quite often and so have always aimed to get video to look as close to the appearance of film I've become so used to. Most seem to prefer a "brightest is best" approach to setting up a telly of video projector but I find that makes the image look like video. In other words, film is generally darker and that's how I set any electronic method of displaying imagery too. I don't go for overly enhanced colours either so just about every home system I see drives me a little nuts. I get the impression that your own methods of setting something up will be similar to myself though Mike. I never seem to ever completely finish fiddling though as there are always minor tweaks that will improve the appearance of a particular home video disc.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 John I wish they would bring back film so we could purchase and watch at home. Imagine 8mm with anamorphic lens etc. of all the films we could want. Why not. perfect for it home use. Make it not so expensive. That would be great.
I think you would like the Disney WOW disc. You use your own eyes of course. But its key feature is the Blue Gel Lens they give you to cover one of your eyes as you Adjust your Colour and tint so it's accurate to Hollywood standards. Which means most of the film makers are watching their images with the same calibration, and you could be watching it exactly like the film maker intended. But i find it not dark enough. So I have made a tweaked setting. I think you would like it. Even just for fun. It goes through everything from contrast, to sharpness, to turning your DNR on or off. Then gives you another disc full of sample footage. I was very very impressed how it made my TV look after having watched i for so long. I was also able to fix my friends TV cause everyones face looked a little too red. I guess as his TV aged, the tint setting were off, and with the Blue Gell Card and looking at the Colour Bar Test pattern and understanding how it works I was able to adjust his tint and now his TV looks brand new. And he's been watching bad TV for the last 5 years. Looking forward to more videos from you. I think you are doing smashing job sir. Thank you.animorphic
@@mikekaye3874 Just about everyone has their telly set too bright but to be fair just about all televisions are used with lights on and in daylight hours so not entirely set up to get the best out of watching a film.
Super 8 is always going to be prohibitively expensive now owing to the cost of film. If the film industry (now there's an anachronism today as they should probably be called 'the video industry') returned to shooting just about everything on film then the cost of Super 8 would plummet owing to volume of film stock availability. New Super 8 film projectors could be designed and built to care for film in the best possible way because it is so easy to scratch the Super 8 gauge. And new digital soundtracks with suitable readers could be developed to get over the problems of magnetic sound and tiny optical sound tracks. It's a shame someone like Elon Musk was never into the Super 8 film making and film collecting hobby because it would be a drop in the ocean for a wealthy benefactor.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 John I really enjoyed this chat and look forward to more. Cheers, and thank you so much. Have a nice day/weekend. Enjoy the holidays!
I picked up Jaws 2 along with the Maltease Falcon (which I've never seen) in the 2 for £25 offer which does make it a better deal!
There are very few I will pay £25 on initial release for as they always come down or part of an offer before long.
The only ones I'll pay more for are limited edition package/steebook of a favourite film (eg the Point Break 4k steebook which should be arriving in the next few weeks!)
I understand what you're saying Tom but occasionally it's important to support the new releases at full price because if enough of us do that then we stand more chance that the releases will keep on coming. American Graffiti is a lovely steelbook and worth the £25 asking price. John.
@@moviecollector5920 well I still think buying them at all helps. And I buy a lot. I do think that a lot of releases don't do enough with either packaging or feature let alone the transfer (eg why I wouldn't buy Jaws 2 for £25, plus I don't like those thinner cases) Whereas some studios do lovely releases that are well worth the money
Anything to do with Jaws, John, I love, and I thought the Jaws 2 was a worthy sequel even though Richard Dreyfuss wasn't in it, who is my all time favorite actor.
He is brilliant. To think he was only two years older in Jaws than he was in American Graffiti. Amazing. John.
Nice review, just preordered Young Guns a personal favorite.
I haven't seen Young Guns in years Gary. I remember them all being killed at the end but then all that turned out to be flesh wounds for the sequel. John.
Great review, thank you John
Thank you Nizam. John.
Hi John, thanks for the video, I agree with you regards Jaws 2 Jaws is the best 👍
It seems that most of us feel similarly about Jaws 2 Raymond but there have been a few comments here from people who are big fans of the film. Good to know it does get some love. John.
Thank you, John.
Thank you Cheekster. John.
I thought jaws 2 was a fantastic transfer. Was very surprised they did such a good job
I think we tend to think of a cine transfer as being someone sat there ensuring everything is aligned and looking as clear as possible but that's no longer the case because bespoke scanners are used for the task these days. It's therefore not the transfer so much that results in the quality we see, it's the quality of the film as originally shot. All these scanners do is scan and then video editors and/or graders set to work on making it look as close to the look of the original film as possible. John.
@@moviecollector5920 there are some horrible looking 4k disc's out there so when I come across something that really impresses me I sing their praises. I can honestly say this was like watching it for the first time. I even clapped at the end. god I'm so sad 😂
Funny, I was eyeing up Jaws 1 & 2 on 4K a couple of days ago on Amazon.
I think the HMV 2 for £25 offer has finished now but if you're in the UK it's worth checking as you might snag them both. John.
@@moviecollector5920The UK, yeah.
JAWS was, is and always will be one of my favourite films of all time. I feel so lucky to now have the 4K version of it on my shelf. Never been a fan of JAWS 2, as much as I've tried, but thanks for the review. I would recommend The Fugitive 4K for a future review, the quality of it is a revelation.
The Fugitive wouldn't be a revelation for me though Movie Peanut because I have a Super 8 print and that is of outstanding quality too which means that it's the result of the original shoot. Anything less than an excellent 4K video transfer would have been unthinkable. John.
@@moviecollector5920The Fugitive was great.
Is the film still edited? I know the blu-ray has the shirt of one of the teen blurred out poorly in the bar towards the beginning of the film.
Never really liked this film and found that I cared more about it when the teens are trapped on the island. The jaws sequels are an odd batch. Really on enjoy 3D and if I’m in the mood this holiday will watch jaws 4 since it is a Christmas movie
I don't know Jaws 2 well enough to know if the original version has now been edited but I didn't notice anything jarring. It was an easy watch so I didn't even have to jot down any notes this time so my eyes were on the screen all the time. If there's anything amiss then perhaps someone else who reviews 4K discs has spotted it so perhaps see what a few others have said. John.
Id love to hear your appraisal of ‘Dragonslayer’ 4k
I didn't even know that one had been released John. I'll have a look for it. As I recall the special effects for Dragonslayer were done by Industrial Light & Magic when they were at their best. John.
@@moviecollector5920 I think it shows in the movie,whoever transferred it to 4k truly loved the movie.
Have you got 4k of the the wizard of oz for it’s age it looks amazing
I don't have it but I did see the CAV NTSC LaserDisc shortly after that came out more than 30 years ago and that looked sensational. The reason for that is the Technicolor process. I expect the 4K was taken from the three separation matrices and that's why it looks so good. It always did because of how it was filmed.
John.
Yes I think it is up there with jaws as one of the best 35 mil
Thanks for this, John. I have Jaws in 4k and I ordered Jaws 2 in 4k but I decided to cancel it and stick with my blu ray trilogy box set as I wasn't that impressed with the early reviews when they came out. It is always interesting to hear your thoughts and your technical knowledge.
There's nothing wrong with the quality of the film in terms of image and mono sound, it's just not a very good film so that's all it can realistically be criticized for. If you like the film then it's probably not looked as good since it was originally released in 35mm. John.
sir can you test Le Samourai on 4k and The Ladykillers la haine et cetera
If I get a chance. I don't think I could watch The Ladykillers again though. If you're wondering why it looks so good then it's because it was a three-strip Technicolour often known as IB-Tech or Imbibition Dye-transfer Technicolor. Sometimes people confuse exceptional picture quality or colour from a film with a successful cine transfer when it's actually due to the quality of the film as shot. John.
Okay, Jaws 2... I've never seen it. Image quality aside (although I will be enjoying it on a UHD42 4k projector)... How does it compare to the original?
P.S. I do enjoy a little bit of film grain.
That's what this video is about Andrew. It's not quite as good but I don't think I've seen another 2x anamorphic 35mm film transferred to video that looks as good as the 1975 Jaws. John.
@@moviecollector5920 I did think you weren't entirely impressed, thank you.
@@FatNorthernBigot It may not be up there with the quality of Jaws Andrew but it's not too far off and probably better than many, if not most, of the full frame anamorphic 35mm video transfers we've ever seen. John.
Just watching jaws 4.on bluray shame plots not as gd as the picture 😅
I think I only ever saw the fourth film once Matthew. Good luck with getting through the rest of it. Michael Caine is always worth watching though so it's not all bad. John.
@@moviecollector5920 yes iv only got 1h to go 😂
I watched this last night. Best I've seen the film but the film is a lot worse than I remember. Easily the best of the sequels and Roy does a good job. Don't think I'll ever watch it again. The first disc outshines it.
Many people find Jaws 2 the same Doug but there are quite a few who have commented on here who are big fans of the film. Jaws in 1975 was about as perfect a film as has ever been made so it was an impossible act to follow and by 1978 there has been so many rip-offs that people were a little tired of this type of film. John.
YOU NEED TO LOOK AT TITANIC IN 4K
Don't much like that one I'm afraid. The film that is. John.
Jaws 2 isn't anyone's idea of a great movie; a few years ago, I read Hank Searls' novelization which was based on earlier script drafts, and it's a massive improvement over the final film, and it's quite sad that version wasn't made.
Surprisingly, a couple of comments have come in from people who won't hear a bad word about this film. It's good to know it does have a small following. I don't think it's a bad film, it's just not particularly good. John.
Jaws should have 7.1 or Atmos.
You might be right there Darren. I was thinking of the re-working done for the DVD all those years ago. Thanks for the correction. John.
@@moviecollector5920 The sound remaster was done mostly on the Blu-ray it was a massive improvement beyond the visual improvement. I think they just up mixed to Atmos from the 7.1
25 knicker for Jaws 2 is too much. No more than 15 stones for that one.
I got it for £12.50 Jsy which seems about right to me. John.
Wow, you really sunk your Teeth into this review...
Good one Bob.
The problem with jaws 2 was it was so boring only went to cinema once to see this just didn’t have it but it’s like trying to hit jackpot twice had a poor story first half was not bad was when those teenagers the last 40 minutes were annoying and was not a scary as first no blood scenes or did not show like first 1 ie when chef son is in pond and that guy gets eaten that looked so real best part of jaws that look like a real shark so jaws 2 did show anything like the first but still made money
I consider the success of the original film to be the relationship between the three leads William. Best sequences are them talking but everything in that film contributes. John.
Hi John, When Jaws 2 came out, it was thought of as not being very good, since then we've been bombarded with even worse sequels, (not just Jaws). So Jaws 2 gained a reputation of being quite good. ( Its not, the first hall is ok, but it's basically a re hash).
It may not be a very good film but it's not bad. Nothing was ever going to match up to that ground breaking 1975 film though. After all, that trio of leading men has to be the best ever in a film and that was the magic ingredient. John.
It's miles better than the first, the first is smothered in temporal DNR and smearing in motion
That's some settings on either your player or your telly Mike. I can't really advise how to sort it out without being there. John.
I love you and your work, John… but Jaws 2… it’s an almost unsubscribed offence. 😂😂😂 You get Jaws 4 and we’re done!
Interestingly Clark, if you read through the comments you'll find that there are a few people that genuinely love Jaws 2. Not many but there are some. John.
@@moviecollector5920 I’d rather watch Deep Blue Sea… and that’s bad!
@@ColonelSternlove I rather enjoy Deep Blue Sea. A complete load of nonsense but I think because of the fabulous quality of the Super 8 trailer I rather got into it. John.
Ann Dusenberry was 24 at the time of filming, i just wish she'd been 21 instead, although she was still a gorgeous bird, obviously.
Trust you Barry! John.
Jaws 2 is unfairly criticized by a lot of people. It makes me enjoy the original Jaws less and less these days! I am the opposite of you in that I enjoy Jaws 2 way more than Jaws these days. The teens don’t bother me. I was once an “annoying teen.” Most people tend to forget they were as well when criticizing teens in movies. As far as the boxoffice “telling its own story” goes, The Empire Strikes Back had a sharp drop off in ticket sales compared to the original Star Wars and yet it is still considered the superior film to Star Wars. So if Jaws 2 is a flop in your eyes, so too is Empire Strikes Back. Just something for you to consider. Jaws 2 is a great film to many of us and I HIGHLY recommend this 4K release!!!!
I do like The Empire Strikes Back but it's not a patch on the original. I can't recall the box office of that one but I seem to have it in my head that it was around two-thirds which is more normal for a sequel. Jaws 2 didn't get a very good reception but it wasn't only that, too many rip-offs appeared in the intervening years and people were a little tired of the format by 1978. I may not particularly like Jaws 2 but I don't dislike it. John.
@@moviecollector5920 The Empire Strikes Back is vastly superior to Star Wars on all fronts! Even the critics agree. Better story, better character development, improved special effects, and Billy Dee Williams! Star Wars can’t possibly compete with that. The boxoffice was down by about $237 million from Star Wars. The boxoffice from Jaws 2 was down about $289 million from Jaws. It too did one third or 40% of the boxoffice take of Jaws which was according to producer David Brown, “gargantuan.” I couldn’t agree more. Even if it didn’t get a nice reception, the audience had the last word with Jaws 2, as well it should have. I think te reason it gets a hard time is not because of people being tired of the format, but because of people complaining about the teens and liking it to a slasher flick which to be honest, ALL shark films are slasher flicks in a way. Including the original Jaws!!!!