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  • A coffee and chat while I try to analyse how Chinese people perceive the word "freedom" compared to people from many Western countries.
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  • @BarrettYT
    @BarrettYT  2 года назад +595

    Before I came to China I never understood how the word "freedom" could be perceived in so many different ways.
    Have you had any experience which really opened up your eyes to this fact?

    • @relaxwhc
      @relaxwhc 2 года назад +93

      The world is not just USA and Europe. The world is very wide 😂
      Not many people realize that 💥
      They think the world should become like them 😂😂😂

    • @rudeboyses
      @rudeboyses 2 года назад +96

      as a Thai man raised in America since 3 years old, i was also indoctrinated to believe American freedom is best. however, my parents talk of life back in the homeland of: freedom to relax, enjoy life, small govt, community.. yes, they were poor but were emotionally, spiritually fulfilled. in America, we have more money but are unfulfilled, lonely, lost, unhappy.

    • @hcjet
      @hcjet 2 года назад +21

      freedom is most important/prioritized thing for people who does NOT really have it...

    • @user-oz9ku7me4c
      @user-oz9ku7me4c 2 года назад +86

      中国一直在进步,也一直在开放。25年前,一个老外敢在路上拍视频,就会有街道上的居委会大爷大妈上前询问,甚至便衣警察阻止你拍摄,甚至先把你抓走审查了再说。10年前,凤凰台记者在路上采访,多拿了一个看板,都被阻止,而现在的中国,很多老外在中国路上拍视频,拍vlog,没有人管你。如果那些反共反华的人,在路上故意喊反动口号或是去偷拍军事基地,那就是自已找死!虽然现在中国境内还不能随便上youtube等,但那也是因为中国对自己的治理还不够满意,不够自信,同时也是为了保护境外的网站,否则中国8亿网民,有1/3是爱国网民,就近3亿,足以把世界网络洗版了!!!

    • @hghdrtc3162
      @hghdrtc3162 2 года назад +4

      In my city an uglying girl walking midnight in the downtown means"Welcome skid rows to my fresh body ..take my body ",,🥰🥰🥰

  • @treedillon
    @treedillon 2 года назад +1468

    In Chinese education, freedom and responsibility are put together, and the two are inseparable.

    • @toosmall4674
      @toosmall4674 2 года назад +38

      That's why I advocate if ya want to vote ...Ya have to pay tax.... atleast 5yrs

    • @kokfoongsoo2480
      @kokfoongsoo2480 2 года назад +13

      @@toosmall4674 also one must pay tax to be eligible for presidency

    • @sosoable
      @sosoable 2 года назад +8

      @@toosmall4674 Why are the poor not eligible to vote

    • @sosoable
      @sosoable 2 года назад +10

      @@toosmall4674 I don't need a job. I don't have to pay taxes. I grow vegetables in my own house. Why can't I vote.

    • @sosoable
      @sosoable 2 года назад +6

      @@kokfoongsoo2480 What if the president is a farmer? The farmer doesn't pay taxes

  • @relaxwhc
    @relaxwhc 2 года назад +241

    If you believe China is a peaceful and progressive nation, raise your hand 🙋✋🔥

  • @JohnnysCafe_
    @JohnnysCafe_ 2 года назад +751

    Well at the last count the Chinese people were most numerous tourists, travelling all over the world and all return home. If the western media were to be believed then there would be hundreds of thousands seeking political asylum, but no, all we see is happy people returning home after their holiday.❤️🇨🇳

    • @Peter-ox8lj
      @Peter-ox8lj 2 года назад +30

      should be millions and millions

    • @ericliume
      @ericliume 2 года назад +26

      Exactly.

    • @user-gf5nz1hw7h
      @user-gf5nz1hw7h 2 года назад +13

      👏👏👏🌹🌹🌹

    • @peng2024
      @peng2024 2 года назад +51

      Very correct, but sometimes some people would rather believe the media than a real Chinese.

    • @Peter-ox8lj
      @Peter-ox8lj 2 года назад

      @@peng2024 u know why?

  • @anha6687
    @anha6687 2 года назад +139

    I am just glad that at least one person (even just one) see China the way I see and respect our value and culture in this world. Thank you so much!

    • @Nickname0135
      @Nickname0135 2 года назад +2

      I think there are a lot of people who do respect Chinese culture. But respect doesn't mean that you can't express disagreement.

    • @shroudedghosthunter8463
      @shroudedghosthunter8463 2 года назад

      Laowhy86

    • @magnuscritikaleak5045
      @magnuscritikaleak5045 2 года назад

      SSSErpent of Eden ZApartheid.

    • @kk-rp6yw
      @kk-rp6yw 2 года назад +1

      Lol Barret is a CCP shill. He is being paid by the Chinese government

    • @susiearviso3032
      @susiearviso3032 Год назад

      I suspect that God isn't very happy with China. They've participated in a lot of wrongs. They've been ruthless with its people; they imprison people for the smallest errs. They execute their own people for talking against the leaders. They practiced harvesting the organs of "law breakers" for years. There is no freedom for the Chinese citizens. Chinese government does not allow Christianity. The Chinese Christians have to hide in caves at night to practice their love for Jesus. There is no freedom for the Chinese. Only internal freedom that comes from God.

  • @iWantPeace838
    @iWantPeace838 2 года назад +32

    This has to be one of the best video by Olly. You look calm and collected. Your argument has been sound, without being intimidating. Well done.

  • @jakew5987
    @jakew5987 2 года назад +567

    Freedom is relative, it's not absolute. You cannot use your freedom to infringe upon another person's freedom, or use your freedom for harm. In other words, you have consider how your freedom will impact another person's life. If you live with other people, you have to sacrifice some freedom for the sake of society. If you want total freedom, you have to go live out in the nowhere. You cannot just go shot somebody if you feel like it. If you cannot just insult somebody if you feel like it. There are limits to your freedom if you live in a society, you have use it responsibly. There is a cost associated with irresponsible behaviours. So freedom is not completely free if you live in a society in the sense you can do whatever because if that's the case, then there is no control what kind of behaviours are accepted and it can be used to hurt other people. You need to put limits to what you can do. Imagine if we live in a society where people can just do whatever they want. Then everybody what be fighting with each other whenever they are frustrated. Please use freedom for the goodness of this world, not for evil. Not like the USA, chanting freedom but dropping bombs on other people.

    • @OvenZheng
      @OvenZheng 2 года назад +29

      说的很好!👍

    • @alleygator8538
      @alleygator8538 2 года назад +41

      Well said. It is so ironic that the person shouting 'freedom', seems to often ignore the freedoms of all other parties.

    • @chongdi6140
      @chongdi6140 2 года назад +35

      Freedom without respect and responsibility to others will results in anarchy

    • @huiyiong1379
      @huiyiong1379 2 года назад +16

      Well said!!!

    • @ivinwitch4054
      @ivinwitch4054 2 года назад +19

      if freedom without respect and responsibilities, it's no different between human and 峨眉山的monkey( goutou )

  • @cychewable
    @cychewable 2 года назад +280

    Well shared of thought. If I could add on then I would like to share the word 'Respect'. We often hear people say please respect my freedom of this and that... But, I personally feel that many people has forgotten the word 'Respect'. Like you have shared, people expects freedom without restrain or boundry but never thought is that feasible. If everyone also has freedom without restrain and boundry, I wonder how choatic the world can be. The world is still not chaotic is not because all of us knowing how to respect but because governed by laws and regulation. A true freedom can only be achieved when everyone start respecting others and accepting deversity even without laws and regulations.

    • @chongdi6140
      @chongdi6140 2 года назад +9

      Freedom without respect and responsibility to others will results in anarchy

    • @franceslo9882
      @franceslo9882 2 года назад +1

      Very well said! Laws make the world in order and to make it balance among all

    • @user-lc7rf2mx3e
      @user-lc7rf2mx3e 2 года назад +2

      agree

    • @user-ze1gg9xq2f
      @user-ze1gg9xq2f 2 года назад +6

      There is no absolute freedom. Excessive freedom will only bring chaos. The murderer will regard murder as his freedom. The rapist will regard rape as his freedom.

    • @user-yn9pq1wv9g
      @user-yn9pq1wv9g 2 года назад +6

      你是真正懂自由的人之一。目前西方宣传的自由根本不切实际,那只是噱头和工具。未来怎么样,让我们拭目以待。

  • @peaceandprosperitytotheworld
    @peaceandprosperitytotheworld 2 года назад +20

    Well said, thank you for sharing and explaining this important cultural and philosophical differences, I agreed 100%. Also, I wish your dad a speedy recovery, and keep your videos coming. ❤️from 🇨🇦, cheers.

  • @georwoogle
    @georwoogle 2 года назад +62

    Your analysis and elaboration of the essence of freedom are superb in terms of perspectives from different angles. What a change that I can see in you in the past two years, Oli! I have been enjoying your videos more and more. By the way, best wishes to your dad for his health!

    • @shroudedghosthunter8463
      @shroudedghosthunter8463 2 года назад

      Laowhy86

    • @shroudedghosthunter8463
      @shroudedghosthunter8463 2 года назад +1

      @@MagicMikey1 I think this whole comment section is full of "agents" if you know what I mean. Just read through lol. And yea this dude is a sellout and a traitor.

  • @scalarnai
    @scalarnai 2 года назад +63

    East is East and West is West, never the Twain shall meet......each to its own devices. Nations should mind their own businesses and stop interfering in other nations affairs. If you don't want others to dictate to you then don't do it to others. Good topic Ollie 👍

    • @daquaviousbingleton7471
      @daquaviousbingleton7471 2 года назад

      I think the problem is that the US is in such a big part built on idealism and relies on it so heavily in its structure that we cannot help but try to spread and support our ideas in other countries, forcefully or not.

  • @renawong8249
    @renawong8249 2 года назад +82

    You've grown so much over the past 2 years Oli!!!!1

    • @carolchu8189
      @carolchu8189 2 года назад +3

      Agree. Oli is more mature now

  • @walid7885
    @walid7885 2 года назад +249

    I don't think Assange is free, he is actually in jail for publishing the truth.

    • @linusmayden8465
      @linusmayden8465 2 года назад +25

      So free Snowden fled to Russia and Aaron Swarts killed himself over being harassed by the FBI.

    • @bennywong3183
      @bennywong3183 2 года назад +2

      have you ever been in jail? if not, try before you have fantasy

    • @PP-vf1kx
      @PP-vf1kx 2 года назад +2

      …you can’t handle the truth! 🤐

    • @yndiiatecow2536
      @yndiiatecow2536 2 года назад +10

      @@linusmayden8465 aaron was murdered, not committed suicide, for telling the truth.

    • @cosmoray9750
      @cosmoray9750 2 года назад +4

      Julian is a political prisoner.....if you think about it.

  • @idiot9450
    @idiot9450 2 года назад +25

    Great explanation of freedom. Lots of us forget one word that follow freedom, that word is "responsibility"

    • @daquaviousbingleton7471
      @daquaviousbingleton7471 2 года назад

      If you have to explain what kind of freedom you have, you dont have freedom

  • @roger41908
    @roger41908 2 года назад +38

    It is amazing to see such mature viewpoints from a man at such young age.

    • @mengmeng7215
      @mengmeng7215 2 года назад

      中国很多年轻人都在思考这些问题,他们都对自由这个词有自己的见解,他只是来到中国社会后被带入到这个氛围里而已

  • @88eclhome71
    @88eclhome71 2 года назад +209

    Well said, every word spoken defined the difference in perception between the West and China’s definition of the word Freedom.

    • @BarrettYT
      @BarrettYT  2 года назад +15

      Thank you

    • @grandwonder5858
      @grandwonder5858 2 года назад +35

      I don’t know about China, but every time I said truthful things about the crimes and atrocities that the US government has committed, but white people find offensive, RUclips or the people operating the RUclips channel always blocked me! Including the Barrett’s channel! So what kind of freedom of speech is that?
      For example: just because I pointed out the fact that the racist US government banned anybody from taking pictures of the Chinese railroad workers in the 1800’s in order to prevent the Chinese people from getting any credit for building the railroads across America and the fact that the US also forced the Chinese government to take the bodies of over 200,000 dead Chinese railroad workers back to China so that they could be buried there instead of allowing them to be buried in the American soil since white Americans considered allowing dead Chinese people to be buried in the Anerican soil to be dishonorable to their land and for that my comment was blocked from being posted on RUclips! This comment that I’ve made is 100 true! Anybody who doubts what I said should pick up some reliable history books and do some research like I did for my Civil Rights classes that I took in college! I can understand blocking comments made by pathological liars like Crooked Trump since everything he says is a lie, but when somebody is telling the truth, even when it is a truth that might offend somebody, you have got to let them practice their freedom to speak! Otherwise, the west’s idea of freedom of speech is just a bunch of BS lies and hypocrisies!

    • @user-ze1gg9xq2f
      @user-ze1gg9xq2f 2 года назад +4

      There is no absolute freedom. Excessive freedom will only bring chaos. The murderer will regard murder as his freedom. The rapist will regard rape as his freedom.

    • @gofurtherafield6319
      @gofurtherafield6319 2 года назад +2

      @@grandwonder5858 你是个好人,注意安全。并不是每个人都拥有良知。你要保护好自己

    • @michael511128
      @michael511128 2 года назад +1

      I still don't like the title. Tens of thousands youtubers who do not know your channel would have read the title, agreed with it, and move on.

  • @farrertablet
    @farrertablet 2 года назад +360

    You spoke the truth. I am a Chinese Singaporean. l witnessed my country (Singapore) evolved from a very poor disunited place into one of the better countries in the world. Yes, l valued freedom... freedom to enjoy security, a home, future development, good public facilities, stable income, good quality of life these are real freedom. Always debating and arguing between political parties and party supporters - the hallmark of Western freedom and democracy is not what l like my country to have.

    • @Queen_of_QX
      @Queen_of_QX 2 года назад +9

      Yep. Multiple party is one of the ways to free people. There are so many other ways. Singapore is still free when people call it leegapore.

    • @rogerfaint499
      @rogerfaint499 2 года назад +8

      @@Queen_of_QX No, we call it famiLee.

    • @Albert_Einstein_not
      @Albert_Einstein_not 2 года назад +12

      @@rogerfaint499 please don’t say “we” when it’s only you and/or a bunch of idiots like you

    • @Queen_of_QX
      @Queen_of_QX 2 года назад +1

      @@rogerfaint499 Time to fight back

    • @user-rf4rm4fx8u
      @user-rf4rm4fx8u 2 года назад +7

      明朝党争误国亡国的历史教训还不惨痛吗?目前这么多皿煮国家执政党和在野党为了反对而反对,不是戏耍百姓吗?

  • @hcjet
    @hcjet 2 года назад +111

    freedom is most important/prioritized thing for people who does NOT really have it...

    • @xyz-pf1yz
      @xyz-pf1yz 2 года назад +25

      prisoners want freedom

    • @ielee1765
      @ielee1765 2 года назад +8

      Your freedom and my freedom is very different, hence lets accept that and respect each other. US imposed their American democratic value onto most countries in the world and if don't, they will sanctioned or force regime change, etc. This not freedom.

    • @hannibalyin8853
      @hannibalyin8853 2 года назад +5

      @@kye4216 whoosh

    • @diezero2483
      @diezero2483 2 года назад +4

      yup,philosophical. Just like who needs money the most? the poor.

    • @vangcruz4442
      @vangcruz4442 2 года назад +5

      There was a line in a popular movie. "Great Power comes with Great Responsibility" Freedom on paper does not mean real Freedom in everyday life.

  • @maniaouri2146
    @maniaouri2146 2 года назад +114

    Hi Oli thanks for your great videos, wish and pray for the quick recovery of your dad .
    Julian Assange is the person who can explain what western style freedom means

    • @hugochu8775
      @hugochu8775 2 года назад

      Yup, look at him now.

    • @sandyerislandy7543
      @sandyerislandy7543 2 года назад

      a most pertinent point. But worse would have happened to him had he whistle-blown in China exposing the conduct of the Chinese government. Yes/No? The west's treatment of Assange is nothing short of scandalous. I suspect that in China we would by now be calling it murderous.

  • @johnlee1546
    @johnlee1546 2 года назад +19

    Thank you for bringing out the security camera topic. As a Chinese living in Canada, I really wish there are more security cameras is Canada. I wouldnt let my mom walk dog after sunset. And when I go out when its dark I always worry and be vigilant of the surrounding even though I live in a fairly ok community.
    I always hear and see people criticize China for having too many cameras that the government can spy its citizens and track everyone, and if they were to live in a society like that they would feel a part of their freedom is taken. Every time I hear someone say that I always get a big WTF in my mind. Like WTF makes you so important and interesting that the government wants to send time and recourse to watch you 24/7? What even makes you think you deserve the attention? Why would any government wants to spend so much recourses to watch its 1.4 billion citizens go about their average day, day after day? For what?

    • @bbsixsix9453
      @bbsixsix9453 Год назад

      Yes,security camera is important

    • @andrewlim7751
      @andrewlim7751 Год назад

      If free for all in 1.4billion China are to be a reality, I don't think anybody can handle it.

    • @海伊娜
      @海伊娜 Год назад

      The camera is designed to monitor crime. If you are not a criminal or someone who affects social norms, no one will be interested in your life

    • @DarkwarriorJ
      @DarkwarriorJ Год назад +1

      For any Canadian, to directly experience what it feels like to live under so many cameras without going to China... go to London, in the UK.
      Good god, every single pole in that city was infested with at least two dozen cameras each. I am aware that they're almost entirely private businesses trying to protect themselves, but London managed to make it creepy. Personally, I'd much prefer that we don't need so many security cameras here in Canada, especially on every random street like in London. The security cameras in China seem more out of the way than those in the UK, where the visible deterrence aspect is rather played up, but it sure as heck made London feel completely unappealing and unfriendly compared to Paris (which has its own fair share of cameras, but compared to London? Yeah.)

    • @johnm7267
      @johnm7267 Месяц назад

      Strange how America criticises China for having cameras yet the FBI and CIA spies on everyone

  • @relaxwhc
    @relaxwhc 2 года назад +50

    FREEDOM? Ask Meng Wanzhou what she thinks of freedom in the West 😂
    Freedom to get kidnapped 💥

    • @falkw2813
      @falkw2813 2 года назад +1

      Ask Peng Shuai...lol

  • @samyang5873
    @samyang5873 2 года назад +195

    There's a huge gap between RESPONSIBLE freedom from SENSELESS freedom.

    • @user-ze1gg9xq2f
      @user-ze1gg9xq2f 2 года назад +12

      There is no absolute freedom. Excessive freedom will only bring chaos. The murderer will regard murder as his freedom. The rapist will regard rape as his freedom.

    • @condorX2
      @condorX2 2 года назад +3

      Just look at the mask debate where passengers able assault flight staffs

    • @phatrick8848
      @phatrick8848 2 года назад +1

      China has a senseless authoritarian rule.

    • @osmanthuskeyk
      @osmanthuskeyk 2 года назад

      true

    • @sandyerislandy7543
      @sandyerislandy7543 2 года назад +1

      you mean between responsible and irresponsible what would senseless freedom be?

  • @leogogo7041
    @leogogo7041 2 года назад +179

    Many people don't know that Chinese socialism is more like the Singapore, not the Soviet Union or North Korea. This is also due to the uniqueness of Chinese history and Chinese culture. Of course, China used to be more like the Soviet model, and at the same time it made many mistakes and disasters. But you need to know that China from an ancient society, the end of the Qing Dynasty, from a history of humiliation to colonization, to the 21st century, only more than a hundred years. China has tried many methods, a lot of wrong roads and a lot of lessons learned, even before 1949 also. And now, finally found the correct modern economic route.

    • @user-hz9cm9qy3n
      @user-hz9cm9qy3n 2 года назад +5

      中国哪里像新加坡,不懂就不要胡扯。

    • @5203344WXT
      @5203344WXT 2 года назад +16

      是的,當年國家很窮,決定走改革開放的道路時,當時的領導人鄧小平先生有去新加坡拜訪李光耀先生取經,李光耀先生還鼓勵鄧小平說:“我們能做到的,你們也一定能做到”。鄧先生回來後,就大刀闊斧的搞了個特區深圳,並派了人材團隊去香港和新加坡學習先進的管理經驗、公務員體制和金融貿易,回來就應用上了,深圳試點成功後,就逐漸把各種經驗擴大到全國各地省市。

    • @weizhang2834
      @weizhang2834 2 года назад +11

      Singapore is much more stricter than China

    • @user-gz3uf6vz2s
      @user-gz3uf6vz2s 2 года назад +6

      @@user-hz9cm9qy3n 中国确实和坡市学了不少,当初想搞淡马锡模式来着,但是没成

    • @user-hz9cm9qy3n
      @user-hz9cm9qy3n 2 года назад +2

      @@5203344WXT 邓小平只是从新加坡模式那里得到信心,也就是,并不是美国所谓的民主制度才是唯一强盛之路。所以才会坚持一个政党--共产党的领导。并不是跟新加坡学了什么东西。新加坡的现象只不过是给中国领导人一个信念而已。

  • @user-wo7fs3ji4l
    @user-wo7fs3ji4l 2 года назад +14

    作为一个中国人,我们理解的自由是积极的,具体的,而非抽象的,消极的。对我们来说,自由意味着免于饥饿,自由意味着免于被威胁,自由意味着安全,自由意味着自由的生活。
    我们并不把散布仇恨和恶意的言论看成自由,也不把个人拥有枪支看成自由--相反,我们认为这是对其他人的安全的一种潜在威胁,它妨碍了其他人免于恐惧的自由。我们也不把攻击政府和分裂社会看成一种自由,与此相反,我们有人大会议的提案制度,对于如何更好的运行社会形成讨论,最后产生可以执行的方案和政策。
    怎样的自由才是好的自由?也许在网络空间里会一直争论下去,谁也说服不了对方。但若你有机会生活在其中,你将会对这种非常具体的自由有更加真切的感受。

  • @user-do9ee5lf4f
    @user-do9ee5lf4f 2 года назад +15

    Westerners mostly seek Freedom from the outside (desires). Easterners attain Freedom from the inside (inner peace). When the mind is not in peace, you will never see beauty in the world.

    • @user-zc5bv2oh1e
      @user-zc5bv2oh1e 2 года назад

      违法成仙,金身砸碎。
      和尚要拜習主席,基督教徒要背党章,伊斯兰教徒?伊斯兰教徒个个都是重点监控对象。

  • @effie-montreal
    @effie-montreal 2 года назад +148

    I totally agree with you about China and I love the country and its people

    • @kanjjtuoerchuq3385
      @kanjjtuoerchuq3385 2 года назад +4

      thank you,Hoping you can come our country(China) to travel,and enjoy the TRUE CHINA,without BBC or CNN

    • @kaz-H
      @kaz-H 2 года назад

      我也爱你们。

  • @Jimmy_Chow
    @Jimmy_Chow 2 года назад +154

    Oil的观点非常接地气且客观,在两年的时间里能有这样的见解,非常难得👍👍👍

    • @jamesjian
      @jamesjian 2 года назад +5

      而且他还很年轻

    • @user-oi8jm5dl9w
      @user-oi8jm5dl9w 2 года назад +16

      有來過大陸。長點時間。9成吧。會改觀。事實勝於雄辯

    • @tianlezheng6829
      @tianlezheng6829 2 года назад +3

      @@user-oi8jm5dl9w 确实

    • @damonyu2999
      @damonyu2999 2 года назад +5

      只要在大陆待一段时间, 思想就会有变化, 这一两年youtube上多了很多拍中国的vloger, 挺好的

    • @phylosry131
      @phylosry131 2 года назад +1

      oil😂

  • @nitholx917
    @nitholx917 2 года назад +48

    Opening our minds to learn from all our experiences makes us wiser. You are becoming a wise international citizen for real. Hope more people can be enlightned with your videos about China.

  • @xiaofengli4426
    @xiaofengli4426 2 года назад +27

    Having lived in UK for over 20 years and now stay in China, I think there is a profound difference in understanding freedom. Chinese people think it is important to repect other people's interests while have their own freedom. It is very similar to Japaness concept that you should not bring troubles to others. For example, in terms of wearing masks, Western freedom emphasis on that it is my own right not to wearing them. However, Chinese people think you should wear them as by not doing so, you may spread the virus to others and you should not have the right doing so. Which one is better depends on your social background but judging from the Covid-19 results, I think the Chinese way is more reasonable. Chinese people also think a lot of political correctness practices are ridiculous.

    • @sandyerislandy7543
      @sandyerislandy7543 2 года назад

      I have been told by Chinese people that when a Chinese person cheats another person they don't feel they did something immoral. Instead they view their cheating as an act of greater intelligence than their victim's.

    • @sgrkath8824
      @sgrkath8824 2 года назад

      @@sandyerislandy7543keep distance @@sandyerislandy7543 @@sandyerislandy7543

  • @necib9873
    @necib9873 Год назад +4

    Because you are a foreigner, you get different treatment. You can watch Twitter and oil pipes. Ordinary people in China can't do that. If you are ordinary people in China, you won't think that Chinese people have enough freedom!i am a Chinese,i know!

  • @desmond5529
    @desmond5529 2 года назад +60

    The concept of freedom is different between the West and the East. The West consider freedom as individual freedom or rights, whereas in the east, freedom is a collective freedom or rights. In the east, we dont have the right to bear arms because it might cause danger to the society. But in the west individual has the right be own guns to defend themself.

    • @MrSagaopa
      @MrSagaopa 2 года назад +9

      DEsmond tan Not quite, in the US yes and that´s what makes that country so dangerous. DO not confuse the US with " the west ".

    • @edwardbolton7257
      @edwardbolton7257 2 года назад

      Desmond Tan Can you tell me the difference between "individual rights" and "collective rights" because in the West, All individuals have "equal "rights under the law. Which is the way i would want it.

    • @Heartadia
      @Heartadia 2 года назад +1

      I would like to add.
      The culture of self-sustainbility is still very fresh in the new world because systemic government was lacking in strength in terms of recent modern historical memories. This is because of the new frontier progressiveness - "New Discoveries" - New Age.
      Hunting and defending one's own family (Or self) when nobody is nearby to help was of utmost importance. In fact you can even find this similarity in practiced culture for more fringe societies in China and Mongolia.
      When a nation is culturally and socially very developed, I believe they no longer have a need for this kind of individual defense mentality. So the focus shifts to the want of a socially constructed defense. Hunter & Gatherer vs. Civilization mentality.
      During the height of various Western societies - even in historical times - cities did not require citizens to carry weapons, in fact it was considered barbaric and destabilizing. Sure, you had a few warring state nations such as Spartans who, by law, all citizens must also be militarily trained in the basics of things at minimum. However, in terms of arms, once a society hits a certain point of development, their armed forces is usually delegated to the military and police en mass.

    • @PottsV1
      @PottsV1 2 года назад +4

      @@edwardbolton7257 haha, all individuals have equal rights. Unless you're female or black or poor or gay or trans or.......

    • @jeffluo9591
      @jeffluo9591 2 года назад +4

      Freedom kind of equals selfishness in the west.

  • @leenwalter3999
    @leenwalter3999 2 года назад +9

    Hi Barret, thanks your great work that may wake some people to open eye to see the whole world rather than just western.

  • @FuZhixiang
    @FuZhixiang 2 года назад +66

    The best summary you've given, "the social justice war". This is a really ironic term when someone pushes "freedom" idealogy to others. Yes, if Chinese social media were popular among US, I would believe Trump would choose Chinese social media at a time for publishing his national assertions. :-) Now he his constructing his own.

    • @edwardbolton7257
      @edwardbolton7257 2 года назад +1

      Tell me,how do you "push" freedom ideology? If freedom was an ideology. Which it's not..It's a right and are people really pushing it or "explaining" it ?

    • @FuZhixiang
      @FuZhixiang 2 года назад +5

      @@edwardbolton7257 That's why I call it ironic. If freedom became a specific ideology, a spoken- or written rule, the "freedom" would not be a freedom.

    • @iitn8437
      @iitn8437 2 года назад

      Chinese apps are not dangerous for ordinary citizens but for powerful people they are terrible. Just imagine if army officers in US using Chinese apps their information is reaching to chinese Gov. Thats why they are banned. So Chinese gov. Can't interfere in other countries.

    • @traveler8052
      @traveler8052 2 года назад +3

      @@iitn8437 so somehow you still foolish think you have some privacy from US government ? And how old are you ? dude ,why are you so naïve ? Many facts reviews Microsoft and Google and Facebook are cooperating with US government . CIA . FBI . If you don't know all of this . please google Edward Snowden. I really cannot understanding guys with normal IQ can believe US governments and doubt Chinese government about APP privacy policy.. Naïve or stupid . which one you are ?

  • @jinwenwu4074
    @jinwenwu4074 2 года назад +2

    I am a mainland Chinese writer. Actually, in china, you don't have right to speak out your voice. Human beings only repeat history, all the darkness is covered by beautiful appearance

  • @tonyxi1880
    @tonyxi1880 2 года назад +7

    im a chinese middle school student and I actually want to say that there are someone telling the truth. u told the right thing. I live in a small city of china and i enjoy a safe place. We have enough police officers and we are protected in security. im really pround of being a chinese. In our politic lessons, freedom and respnsibility are inseparable. so u have some limits to enjoy your freedom in china. so some people judge china easily through these limits. Hope more people in western countries understand china better through these videos.

    • @yangchenghan6741
      @yangchenghan6741 2 года назад

      You need to know these limits even include games
      What else can a country that doesn't allow her underage citizens to play games can't forbid them from doing it?

    • @yangchenghan6741
      @yangchenghan6741 2 года назад

      另外你是在哪里找的梯子?我中学的时候还在贴吧上求galgame(哭)

    • @wm4934
      @wm4934 2 года назад +1

      我们国家的少年是最优秀的💪

  • @RobertAmer
    @RobertAmer 2 года назад +31

    Freedom is what is left after all laws and rules are applied! Freedom, Arrrggghhh!

    • @Reinhardt_Kozlowski
      @Reinhardt_Kozlowski 2 года назад

      Go back to bed Amer

    • @RobertAmer
      @RobertAmer 2 года назад

      @@Reinhardt_Kozlowski TROLL!

    • @user-vl4wg2dl1o
      @user-vl4wg2dl1o 2 года назад

      你別穿衣服好了,像你這種想法真的是不妖魔..自由是在其法律及規範下可行使個人的權利義務和責任也包括尊重,沒法律和規則人就沒安全也不會被尊重,沒法律和規則當你想打人就人打那是你的自由當然你也會有被人打的時侯,因為那也是別人的自由!你還是快去睡吧!野人

    • @RobertAmer
      @RobertAmer 2 года назад

      @@user-vl4wg2dl1oSu Yuhong, who are you talking to? What, can't write English, so hide your ending insult behind Hanzi.

    • @Reinhardt_Kozlowski
      @Reinhardt_Kozlowski 2 года назад +1

      ​@@RobertAmer Relax Amer, go to sleep sweet baby. BTW are you still in Beihai?

  • @trinitrang2932
    @trinitrang2932 2 года назад +38

    Australian government is in the process to make it law to be unable to criticize leaders on social media , what they mean is protecting America leaders and if they are lucky Aussie leaders too!

    • @gohyonghongluke3443
      @gohyonghongluke3443 2 года назад +1

      OMG same as mine here Singapore.

    • @ralphvanthoff
      @ralphvanthoff 2 года назад +9

      That's what you get when the Australian PM is a puppet to US policies and diplomatic relations.

    • @COCO-bl4ig
      @COCO-bl4ig 2 года назад +1

      @@ralphvanthoff I hate my PM. I am Aussie. Scott Morrison acts like a 12 year old and he truly believes he is chosen by god. Fuck that useless prick.

    • @sandyerislandy7543
      @sandyerislandy7543 2 года назад

      if that happens the Aussies will criticize their leaders in the streets and directly to their faces.

  • @darenchanlp
    @darenchanlp 2 года назад +42

    Freedom to USA is the right to arms and lies or say whatever they want.

    • @gotrip7911
      @gotrip7911 2 года назад +3

      why they shut down the ID for Trump?

    • @edwardbolton7257
      @edwardbolton7257 2 года назад +1

      Apparently you feel the individual does not have a right to defend him or herself. What hogwash.

  • @xinqio6375
    @xinqio6375 2 года назад +9

    我是中国人,我拥有着我想要以及我需要的自由,只要你不犯罪,那么你就可以在中国过上你想要的生活,当然前提是你要为之奋斗。
    在中国,犯罪的判定和很多国家的定义差不多一样的,例如杀人放火非礼强奸抢劫偷盗等等,只要你做一个合法的公民(人),那么你就可以随意支配你的人生,例如凌晨5点在山顶看日出,早上在户外进行锻炼跑步,中午在餐厅公园商场吃午餐,下午在阳台或者咖啡厅喝咖啡,傍晚漫步在海边看夕阳,晚上外出喝啤酒、唱歌跳舞、聚会直至凌晨,最重要的是,在一天之中我们不用为我们的人生安全感到担心。
    这个视频做的非常好,在中国,并不会在你的私人领域安装摄像头,公众场合是有摄像头,如马路上的摄像头用来拍摄车辆违章,商场内的摄像头是商场老板安装的,我们也可以在自己家门口安装摄像头,并不会被国家监控。
    非常谢谢你为我们所做的澄清

    • @Harry-mu5xl
      @Harry-mu5xl Год назад

      连不做核酸的自由都没有,很多人连出小区的自由都没有,上网和言论的自由统统没有,谈什么别的都是笑话。

  • @AY-po3wq
    @AY-po3wq 2 года назад +18

    Well said Oli. Generally speaking, the Chinese are collectivist, while the Westerners tend to be individualistic. In today's globalized society, it is important to have an open mind to accept diverse cultures and values.

    • @Nickname0135
      @Nickname0135 2 года назад +1

      I think it depends on the situation. I've been living in Shanghai and out on the street, I have to say that Chinese tend to be more selfish than Europeans, which also affects safety, btw. But when speaking about their country, then I agree that Chinese tend to have a more collectivist view.

    • @aaaaaa-li4un
      @aaaaaa-li4un 2 года назад

      @@Nickname0135 You just saw the Chinese in Shanghai. There are many in China.

    • @aaaaaa-li4un
      @aaaaaa-li4un 2 года назад +1

      @@Nickname0135 Selfishness is only personal.

    • @8964TS
      @8964TS 2 года назад

      Someone just started trying to learn about the differences between east and west!

    • @sandyerislandy7543
      @sandyerislandy7543 2 года назад

      @@aaaaaa-li4un so where in China is safe?

  • @mayho5816
    @mayho5816 2 года назад +127

    說的很好 每個國家國情不同 要尊重對方的文化 人民過的好才是最重要的

    • @greenistree
      @greenistree 2 года назад +2

      Respect to Diktator is not a culture, that’s slavery

    • @greenistree
      @greenistree 2 года назад +1

      Slavery isn’t cultur

    • @tianqiwang7194
      @tianqiwang7194 2 года назад +6

      @@greenistree It makes no sense if you ONLY look at a sort of dictator. If the government is keeping its citizens secured and sorting out issues people raised, it's more important and beneficial than a country running with multiple parties but along with loads of stabbing, robbing and stuff. It all matters if the party/government is literally doing SOMETHING productively for his people! Anyway, I reckon you won't understand it as your mind is full of 'your experience'.

    • @jackzhang5705
      @jackzhang5705 2 года назад +12

      事实上是西方国家为了自身的利益把自己的文化与信仰以及制度强加给别国

    • @greenistree
      @greenistree 2 года назад +1

      Yup. Im dumm and in China is alles Ok. There’s no concentration camps and there’s no disregard of Human rights of minorities and there freedom of speech and so on and so on ;)

  • @user-nq8nx7sd3b
    @user-nq8nx7sd3b 2 года назад +43

    第一,关于投诉政府/企业(特别是国企,私企还可能和稀泥,国企就很守规矩),现在有非常高效的途径,可以打市长热线,可以向主管部门投诉。一般都会有反馈,处理到你满意为止
    第二,关于选举……刚才社区刚打电话叫我去投票选人大代表……

    • @nm-jk2bm
      @nm-jk2bm 2 года назад

      我在学校选人大,老师只让我选其中一个人,哦对了,我是🇻🇳人😜

    • @user-nq8nx7sd3b
      @user-nq8nx7sd3b 2 года назад +5

      @@nm-jk2bm VN?越南? 我们社区随便选……爱选谁选谁,不想去可以弃权

    • @gingerli6987
      @gingerli6987 2 года назад +2

      我们小区那个来通知大家投票的,把通知贴在门口的对话机上了,然后被邻居投诉了,直接投诉到社区。第二天来人撕了,重新贴。其实大家都很忙,国内那么多好吃好玩的,大家也不会去真的了解被选人,但是你可以去社区了解,有时间地点,直接去登记就可以一对一询问情况。

    • @elan_misaka
      @elan_misaka 2 года назад +1

      @@gingerli6987 我也投票选过,确实挺扯淡的,因为我真的不了解候选人,我又不能选我自己我自己也不靠谱啊……

    • @suu1062
      @suu1062 2 года назад +1

      @@nm-jk2bm 由于我认知不足产生了误会,对不住了兄弟😣
      以下内容保留用于自省:
      这国旗是越南吗?我没有遇到过你说的情况。但你一个外国人,即使不服从这样的要求你老师又能拿你怎么样?转头一个举报就能反制的事情,灵活点ok?

  • @kirklandday
    @kirklandday 2 года назад +11

    Thumbnail is hilarious! Great topic btw, freedom and democracy are center in western values, but our understanding of those ideas is limited by our history. Glad that you both are working to bridge the gap

  • @user-fz6co2rh6j
    @user-fz6co2rh6j 2 года назад +6

    I’d never thought the relationship among the goverment vs. the monopolies vs. the citizens as a whole. Very good point to demonstrate the diversity of freedom.

  • @williamppl3624
    @williamppl3624 2 года назад +78

    I traveled to the states for 5 months during the highest peak of Covid back in january 2020. I planned to stay a bit longer as international travel was very risky so i pay$450 for my tourist visa extension. I got rejected and forced to leave the country.
    I left the country and traveled to China and stayed in China from june 2020 to august 2021. China allowed me to extend my visa without problem.
    So, where is the freedom, where is the human rights America continuously boast about.

    • @3iverson
      @3iverson 2 года назад +4

      But in China you won't be able to watch RUclips videos without VPN.

    • @3iverson
      @3iverson 2 года назад

      @元初 Sometimes your VPN wont even work, for example during some sensitive time period.

    • @user-tt3qe1gf9f
      @user-tt3qe1gf9f 2 года назад

      @@3iverson 为什么会这样?你有了解这段历史?

    • @lukelyu2657
      @lukelyu2657 2 года назад +5

      @@3iverson So you means RUclips is everything in one's life. Without it my life will be ruined. RUclips is just a video website. We have 我是大明星 in Shandong TV. That's enough for me a 50 years old farmer to have some laughters everyday.

    • @user-kn4gw1lq4w
      @user-kn4gw1lq4w 2 года назад +2

      @@3iverson 在中国很多人不看油管儿,因为生活中还有更多他们感兴趣的事情,你这关于VPN的言论,到底要表达什么呢?

  • @keeboon66
    @keeboon66 2 года назад +10

    Freedom is as free as air in any countries including in China, as long as you don't break the law.

    • @cosmoray9750
      @cosmoray9750 2 года назад

      Here is someone who is breaking the law.
      RUclips search " China admits Indian hackers are carrying out attacks "...

  • @relaxwhc
    @relaxwhc 2 года назад +19

    If you think Elon Musk's ancient Chinese poem is meaningful for world peace, raise your hand 🙋✋🔥

    • @soonhenglim7986
      @soonhenglim7986 2 года назад

    • @velocecarriola9214
      @velocecarriola9214 2 года назад +1

      I like the poem, not a billionaire who symbolizes everything which is wrong with this world, billionaires should not exist while the majority of the world live in poverty.

    • @JWscandi
      @JWscandi 2 года назад

      @@velocecarriola9214 Respectfully, I disagree with your good self esp. on "billionaires should not exist while the majority of the world live in poverty".....as long as they prosper NOT on others sufferings, don't rob, oppress, take "unfair" advantage of others - what's wrong with that? There are many virtuous "philanthropist" billionaires, apart from the numerous bad eggs.
      The world won't be prosperous & advance without due incentives to the smart, intelligent, hard working and risk takers. The poor needs help but these people habitually want to be spoon fed, lead their own "pace" of life and proliferate.

  • @MrCurrybean
    @MrCurrybean 2 года назад +19

    for me, i wish my gov have camera at every single street. if im not a bad guy, i dont know y i should afraid of the security camera? gov spy on every single citizen?? what for?? lmao

  • @jennyohara4011
    @jennyohara4011 2 года назад +13

    When I visited China, no one seemed troubled or under pressure, all happy little puddings actually.

  • @90sDragonkid
    @90sDragonkid 2 года назад +2

    Thank you for sharing your perspectives on this topic, Oli. Really enjoyed watching this video.
    I immigrated to the US at a very young age but growing up in a Chinese household, I completely agree with your take on this topic.
    In the US, people (some not all) can be very judgemental and narrow minded especially those who grew up or live in rural areas. They grew up with the mindset that the US is the biggest powerhouse in the world. The US government wants other developing countries such as China, need to listen and follow the Western methods of doing things. This is so wrong. What you said about some people being ignorant and naive are so true. It amazes me how some people can be like that.
    You hit the home run about the West doesn't need to interfere with China or vice versa (I don't recall the exact wording you used), every country has their own methods of governing their own society.
    Lastly, social media in the West is awful, and they do an excellent job on brain washing individuals who have never visited other countries. So many people around me always commented saying "China is communist, they do this and that. I saw it on xxxx news." Not just China, but other countries in Asia, Africa, or South America. They've never been there and they don't know what people are like there. The "news" only provider their biased opinions through their channel, it's never neutral.
    To truly understand one's culture, we should all visit the country and learn/observe from those who live there.
    Thank you for sharing, always good to watch your videos. Stay healthy and safe!

    • @daquaviousbingleton7471
      @daquaviousbingleton7471 2 года назад

      Freedom is the ability to make a social media platform and censor anyone you want on it😁😁Seriously tho, if its your social media you should be able to make the rules it operates on, right?

  • @sr151sr
    @sr151sr 2 года назад +45

    The prerequisite for freedom is to have a harmonious, stable and safe country. There is no point in freedom without these empty talks. If a country tells a dilapidated country that you must have freedom and human rights, otherwise it will send troops to intervene and let you have human rights and freedom. As a result, the people suffering from the perennial war have been miserable. Those countries that wield the human rights stick are doing human rights violations in other countries, messing up other countries and then leaving and leaving behind a lot of mess. Is this the human rights and freedom that the West believes in?

    • @shroudedghosthunter8463
      @shroudedghosthunter8463 2 года назад

      Laowhy86

    • @stevennotthe2997
      @stevennotthe2997 Год назад

      @@shroudedghosthunter8463 haha him? who hasnt even been to china? calls himself a human rights activist over human rights violations that dont exist? truly pathetic man he is

  • @destartmoe5122
    @destartmoe5122 2 года назад +30

    the reason why our Chinese are willing to give up some privacy is that we trust our security system.

    • @aaaaaa-li4un
      @aaaaaa-li4un 2 года назад +2

      说的对 咱中国不需要枪支就可以保证安全 China doesn't need guns to protect itself.

    • @mnanchen
      @mnanchen 2 года назад +2

      I agree, of course it's not perfect but it does much more good than bad

    • @mnanchen
      @mnanchen 2 года назад +1

      @粉絲

    • @mnanchen
      @mnanchen 2 года назад +1

      My personal habit. I got this habit in Europe and North America

    • @magnuscritikaleak5045
      @magnuscritikaleak5045 2 года назад

      @@aaaaaa-li4un slippery slope argument.

  • @user-xf7dk7sx4x
    @user-xf7dk7sx4x 2 года назад +14

    中国的历史教会我们,如果统治阶级没办法得到民心,那就要去暴力推翻,所以从某种意义上来说,中国的执政党是靠人民暴力选出来的,如果一个国家的执政党不得民心,那么国家的法律根本就得不到国家暴力机关的执行,就像是警察,军队等。因为说白了警察军人脱下那件制服也只是个普通的民众而已。当我们发现问题,我们可以通过网络和媒体表达自己的诉求。如果你愿意花一点时间去翻翻看微博等平台的一些人的言论,你会发现其实言论还是挺自由的。当问题没办法通过政府的变革而解决而这些问题已经严重的影响到大多数人的时候,那就还是老祖宗教的那一套,使用暴力革命推翻政权,再建立一个新的政权。

    • @R2d2koko
      @R2d2koko 2 года назад +1

      没兩樣, 民主国家表面上也许允许你说出一切 , 但问题也一样解决不了

    • @user-xf7dk7sx4x
      @user-xf7dk7sx4x 2 года назад +2

      @@R2d2koko 看起来好像有多个选项,其实选不选没多大差别

    • @user-bt2cv3ni8k
      @user-bt2cv3ni8k 2 года назад

      @@user-xf7dk7sx4x
      微博✘
      女厕所✔
      里面乱七八糟说啥的都有,言论简直不要太自由,一般的正常人都不会去看那些东西,看过几次真的倒胃。另外提一嘴
      百度贴吧✘
      男厕所✔

    • @user-xf7dk7sx4x
      @user-xf7dk7sx4x 2 года назад

      @@user-bt2cv3ni8k 个人认为豆瓣是最恐怖的

    • @tianlezheng6829
      @tianlezheng6829 2 года назад

      @@user-xf7dk7sx4x 非常恶心

  • @marrygreen1238
    @marrygreen1238 2 года назад +1

    作为一个中国人,我很感激能看到如此公正客观的评价。我说说一个本土大陆人对freedom的看法。
    在一些方面,我们看似放弃一部分freedom,比如私人信息,刷脸还有指纹,是因为一种顾全大局的信任,为了能统一管理并方便尽可能多的大多数人。任何事都是有利有弊,如果这些私人信息能不被滥用而是科学统一妥善管理,那么看似没有freedom实际是不留下任何让黑暗滋生的死角。这是为什么到处是监控,女孩子能夜晚独自安然在大路上,支付宝的使用率超过现金的原因。
    当然,西方对个人权利的高度重视也令人起敬,毕竟,每个人的自由,权利得到充分重视,人性的充分解放,这个国家,这个世界,才会越来越好。
    I hope everybody all over the word can understand each other.we can communicate peacefully
    l am not good at English.thank you.

  • @sirrrrr3479
    @sirrrrr3479 2 года назад +9

    作为一名中国人很荣幸能看到这个视频,也很开心国际友人可以通过这种方式更加的了解现在的中国而不是进行一昧的批判。

  • @antonywooster6783
    @antonywooster6783 2 года назад +3

    In my opinion: the freedom to eat is absolutely the foundational freedom. Without it, any other freedom is completely valueless. That China has removed the fear of not finding the next meal for oneself or one's family, is a powerful argument in favour of the idea that China is, in fact, freer than any other major country. Without a home to call your own, you are not free, in many western countries, to get a job or a bank account or a pension and many people are, in fact, homeless. So how are they "free"? They are free to vote? You sure of that?

    • @johnm7267
      @johnm7267 Месяц назад +1

      Yes of course you are right. If a person who is starving is given a choice between voting and eating it is obvious what they will choose

    • @antonywooster6783
      @antonywooster6783 Месяц назад

      @@johnm7267 Thanks for your support.

  • @htlow3598
    @htlow3598 2 года назад +27

    Ollie, my god... this is the best video you have made (and I have been watching the Barrett's videos since your dad provided the daily situation of COVID in China). In your early days in China, you impressed me as an ordinary young man from UK (I have lived in UK since 1967 and am well versed with the Saturday night drinking mob to the University young lads). This video showed how matured, intelligent and developed person you have become. Your presentation has improved with each video. Indeed, in this video not only is a single word not superfluous, every single word is vital. Your dad must be so proud with how much you developed since arriving in China. Once again, my hat off to you!

    • @BarrettYT
      @BarrettYT  2 года назад +3

      Thanks for your nice words!

    • @ldxyjr7321
      @ldxyjr7321 2 года назад +2

      @@BarrettYT 我在抖音和youtu都观看了你的视频,感谢你能真实的说出中国和中国人的报道。

  • @smetchaupeter516
    @smetchaupeter516 2 года назад +18

    For Asians in general Collectivism is far more important than individualism.

    • @user-uj4xh9wb3e
      @user-uj4xh9wb3e 2 года назад

      no,you know nothing about asians from China.Individualism is the first choice of people here.There is no collectivism.

    • @smetchaupeter516
      @smetchaupeter516 2 года назад

      @@user-uj4xh9wb3e perhaps your country or society maybe.

    • @hannahwoods1446
      @hannahwoods1446 2 года назад

      中国是举国体制,而非集体主义。

  • @BillyLyu
    @BillyLyu 2 года назад +3

    As a Chinese now live in Germany, I have to say that there are not so much difference between western countries and China. Citizens both have the freedom to criticize the capitalists and capitalism. The only difference is that in western countries capitalists made up the government. With China’s reform and opening up, ideological constraints have become less obvious, and the Chinese government will never give power to capital. So the only way is to build government credibility, in other words Chinese government is not only a institution but a kind of belief as well. I think that's why Chinese government has so much power.

  • @cliz305
    @cliz305 2 года назад +8

    When I was in China, I heard people talked shit about the government all the time. Some teachers like to talk about that too. None of them were detained or fined. I have even seen little posters talking shit about a particular government officer. Not really a problem. The government has bigger problem to worry about. It would be more of a problem if someone/organization is doing it in an organized way though.

    • @user-ge6ud9db5p
      @user-ge6ud9db5p 2 года назад

      You made the sense, actually we have more people that are against our government than you can imagine including some teachers, you will be fine as long as you won`t post it in public.

  • @ellentsui530
    @ellentsui530 2 года назад +12

    Good for you that you are wise at your young age. I am sure you will be successful in life.

  • @alrightigiveup
    @alrightigiveup 2 года назад +31

    You really explained how "freedom" is in different countries quite thoroughly. I can use your video now as a reference to tell people about China's freedom. You are wise beyond your age.

    • @user-ze1gg9xq2f
      @user-ze1gg9xq2f 2 года назад

      There is no absolute freedom. Excessive freedom will only bring chaos. The murderer will regard murder as his freedom. The rapist will regard rape as his freedom.

    • @user-zc5bv2oh1e
      @user-zc5bv2oh1e 2 года назад

      希望你能发自内心接受来自塔利班的自由

    • @daquaviousbingleton7471
      @daquaviousbingleton7471 2 года назад

      Theres no such thing as different types of freedom. Freedom is to be free

  • @Gai66
    @Gai66 2 года назад +11

    Thank you. I hope more foreign friends will come to China to have a look, meet Chinese friends, and experience the real China for themselves, instead of being cheated by the media, because we all know there are political reasons.

    • @wenbinxu1951
      @wenbinxu1951 Год назад

      Nay. As soon as they enter China, they will lose their connection to Google, RUclips, Facebook, Twitter, Wikipedia, Instagram, Netflix, WhatsApp, Telegram, and virtually all non-CCP news sources. No normal person from the free world could survive such a life.

  • @thelegittaco974
    @thelegittaco974 2 года назад +4

    The West’s “civilising” quest is honestly nothing greatly different to colonialism

  • @lsterfree
    @lsterfree 2 года назад +79

    喜欢你客观的态度。千万不要刻意亲华,更不要反华,仅仅说出你的观点就行。让西方人更了解东方,让东方人更理解西方

  • @dontaskmewhy100
    @dontaskmewhy100 2 года назад +23

    Well one can criticize the China govt inside China, but it depends on how you put forth your criticisms.
    If you have a real or close to a real concrete case, you need to back up with basic evidence, or present your case at least logic wise that makes sense.
    Of course anything about 'down with the CPC' or 'down with Xi Jinping' are not allowed, nor anything encouraging people to overthow the China govt.
    However, to give an example:
    1. There are more than 130 people got shot (by gun) to death everyday in USA (fact)
    2. Don't go to the USA, you will be shot to death (Lie).
    The China govt wants to manage the lie and misinformaiton in the second case.
    Of course things are not as clear cut and simple as the above but this are the general direction. I am not even saying govt or govt officials are always right.
    No extremism, be it anti or pro China/CPC.
    Just one needs to be responsible for one's own speech. Because for some people, spreading rumors or misinformation is costs free.
    The last thing China govt or most of the Chinese wants is misinformation and fake news polarizing the society and create unnecessary hatre between groups.
    In general, the Chinese has more trust and faith in their own government than their fellow human being in the West.

  • @user-ss8cu5tk8c
    @user-ss8cu5tk8c 2 года назад +32

    We believe that everyone should have the same freedom, the rich and the poor, the leaders and the general staff, the good and the bad person. If we have to make some trade-offs, we tend to reduce the freedom of those who do bad things, and in China, we can criticize the government if they make bad decisions or policies, but we can't destroy the government because it undermines the freedom of others. We prefer more equality than freedom.

    • @edwardbolton7257
      @edwardbolton7257 2 года назад +1

      So if someone killed your only child,you would prefer he goes free , rather than to prison to pay for his crimes?

    • @user-nw9nx7dn3t
      @user-nw9nx7dn3t 2 года назад +7

      @@edwardbolton7257 you talk aboutthe fake concept

    • @user-sf7tv1rp2y
      @user-sf7tv1rp2y 2 года назад +7

      @@edwardbolton7257 You digress. Freedom based on hurting others is not freedom, it's selfishness.Freedom without bottom line is called selfishness.It's like wearing a mask, you don't have to wear a mask in your own home. But in a public place, you don't wear a mask, affecting the health of others, is selfish

    • @cwk6218
      @cwk6218 2 года назад +1

      @@edwardbolton7257 Why don't you ask your law, China is not a white left country, give it death penalty

    • @Nickname0135
      @Nickname0135 2 года назад +1

      Even Olli says you can't publicly criticise the Chin. government. So you disagree. And in European countries, e.g., of course you cannot destroy the government. In fact people there don't have to because they elect a new government. It's and orderly process of change usually (not always!) without chaos.

  • @shnmak2958
    @shnmak2958 2 года назад +17

    Good reflection, Oli 👍. I hope more people will do the same - stop and reflect on their internalized beliefs, values, perceptions etc, ask ourselves questions, look up information- history, facts…… Just don’t jump to conclusions too easily, especially when it involves hatred or aggression towards others.

  • @oliverstone9681
    @oliverstone9681 2 года назад +2

    You have described the subject of freedom in both countries exactly 100% right,and you are very articulate.I love your video.❤️❤️❤️

  • @user-rm4lo5jz2u
    @user-rm4lo5jz2u 7 месяцев назад +1

    Emm……I agree with you. Freedom is a very broad term,and as you know,many people can consider what freedom is from different perspective.There is no absolute standard for it.

  • @hobbitfrdo
    @hobbitfrdo 2 года назад +18

    Thanks great wisdom and these are the kind of video I enjoy.
    I'm a British born Chinese and even I ask the question about China because the information I got was always stereo type but thanks to shows like yours I can think for myself .👍

    • @ldxyjr7321
      @ldxyjr7321 2 года назад +1

      欢迎来中国,不会让你失望,非常友好的国家,会让你有回家的温暖。

  • @luozijin4767
    @luozijin4767 2 года назад +3

    In China, at least from junior high school, students are taught "rights and obligations are united" in class. So, for example, you have the right of speaking freely, but meanwhile, you should fulfill obligations of respecting others' rights and not damaging benefits of the country.
    I think it's reasonable, because
    without fulfilling obligations, like respecting others' rights, it's selfishness but not freedom;
    and without fulfilling rights, it's the negation of human rights (in which western countries criticizing Chinese government fiercely).
    Simply, if you respect the country and others, then you can live freely and happily in China.

  • @seanli4279
    @seanli4279 2 года назад +3

    When I heard people saying wearing mask violate their freedom, how small your freedom is.

  • @chenliang1997
    @chenliang1997 2 года назад +2

    as a Thai man raised in America since 3 years old, i was also indoctrinated to believe American freedom is best. however, my parents talk of life back in the homeland of: freedom to relax, enjoy life, small govt, community.. yes, they were poor but were emotionally, spiritually fulfilled. in America, we have more money but are unfulfilled, lonely, lost, unhappy.
    one is for the money , one is for the spiritual, i prefer spiritual

  • @qiankoondadao9405
    @qiankoondadao9405 2 года назад +1

    Appreciate so much your video with English Chinese subtitles, your topics on Freedom are truly well spoken and the many examples you brought out are really good.. Thanks 👍 handsome man, Keep it up

  • @top3587
    @top3587 2 года назад +66

    我们中国公民有好几条投诉政府不作为或执政失误的途径啊。且都非常高效率的。希望作者您多了解下。

    • @tianlezheng6829
      @tianlezheng6829 2 года назад +3

      比如去政府门口拉横幅 比如打举报电话
      亲测有用

    • @anankdear8903
      @anankdear8903 2 года назад +2

      还有举报、上访🤣🤣

    • @user-jx7lg5hx4r
      @user-jx7lg5hx4r 2 года назад +7

      在台灣,你敢去總督府前來布條?

    • @Haiuser-st9pl9so3u
      @Haiuser-st9pl9so3u 2 года назад +6

      @@user-jx7lg5hx4r 那天已经有人试过了。直接被警察拘捕。🌚

    • @kaipeng6453
      @kaipeng6453 2 года назад +1

      美国政府很虚伪,根本不为老百姓着想

  • @jqxu6232
    @jqxu6232 2 года назад +41

    You are wrong to say that Chinese cannot criticize the government in public and online. We can, and often do. Go to a small street corner in any city and you'll see a bunch of old people sitting around chatting about the communist Party's latest policies, or talk to taxi drivers, especially in Beijing, and they'll tell you everything the government is doing. Online, especially on Weibo, there was more criticism. The only problem is, you don't understand our language ,so you have no idea these things exist. This is also the problem of most westerners, who cannot understand China deeply.

    • @R2d2koko
      @R2d2koko 2 года назад +1

      Oli 说的是公开指责, 不是你所谓的这种朋友互相发牢骚评头论足批评的指责 , 我去中国時, 朋友也一样和我谈起了一些政策的不足 , 还指名道姓的, 我当时也被嚇到了

    • @jqxu6232
      @jqxu6232 2 года назад +5

      @@R2d2koko 微博上还不够公开?

    • @user-oy2ry9kq6v
      @user-oy2ry9kq6v 2 года назад +2

      Honestly, with a bunch of keyboard warriors and karens who "did their research" from a quick google search.....yea...

    • @R2d2koko
      @R2d2koko 2 года назад

      @@jqxu6232 我不清楚微博的殺伤力, 就好像我们也一样在臉書和 whatapp 常幹政府, 没有什么大影响, 可能不是官方管道 , 但如果在报纸指名道姓的批评可就不是这么一回事了

    • @jqxu6232
      @jqxu6232 2 года назад +4

      @@R2d2koko 所以你是台湾人是吧?你都说你不知道微博的杀伤力了。我来举个例子吧。当初福建政府对台湾要开放免隔离通行。结果在微博上被骂到热搜,福建政府直接取消这一政策。结果一个礼拜不到,台湾那边就爆发疫情。不管是娱乐圈,社会新闻,还是政府措施,只要在微博引起热搜,就一定会得到官方的回应。

  • @user-yv8tu3tq7v
    @user-yv8tu3tq7v 2 года назад +5

    about the safety, i think the big difference between China with some other country is that, “why China doesn't have so much crime” VS “why other country need/want to do crime”. China is one of the most not aggressive country. China just want to live peacefully. if you like me, ok let us happy together, if not, ok i won't bother you again. No offense speaking, for now most developed countries have the history of colony and plunder. even old China give values to other small country to show the strong and power, but not with war or plunder

  • @hughmason1950
    @hughmason1950 7 месяцев назад

    just discovered your page, as an "international person "through a lifetime of living, working and visiting countries worldwide it is refreshing to see a young lad with so much sense.; and presenting logical arguments so well. BTW I first came to china in 1996 now have been living here in retirement with my Chinese wife for the last 4 years

  • @yuanwang5124
    @yuanwang5124 2 года назад +1

    Oli, I am a Chinese fan of your channel, one thing I have to point out is that, In China, you can openly criticize the government, say on the internet, but you have to be grounded and not start rumors, e.g., we Chinese often like to compare our hometown with that of people from other provinces, and sometimes we do complain publicly about our local government for not having been optimally improved or developed certain aspects of our city and public life, simply because we envy the development of neighboring province or other peer-level cities. On the other hand, personally, say during a dinner, friends are free to talk about their feelings about how government does its job, it's totally fine, but if you are advocating publicly something negative about the government, you must be true and based on facts (otherwise your friends will find you a hater, not to mention the possible punishment from government). Actually, about ten years ago, some pro-west public figures, called "公知" (translated to public intellectual), often talked untrue superiorities about western world and compared against China to mislead people to think that Government is not doing right, which are found largely wrong and not true in the end. We Chinese people hate those 公知, but back to the old days they were OK and not punished by law (but they should have been arrested I think).

  • @lazybones5390
    @lazybones5390 2 года назад +5

    wow, for 2 years, now you are way more mature than any kids in UK.

  • @jye2869
    @jye2869 2 года назад +5

    Excellent work Barrett! I would recommend my friends in the UK to watch it. Can you also talk about human rights, another commonly critique from the West, in another video please?

  • @90tank88
    @90tank88 2 года назад +22

    不不不,你可以批评政府,直接打政务热线,都是12345这个号码,反映你在生活中遇到的任何问题。这是事务性的热线,并非西方鼓吹的意识形态的热线,我们更注重解决实际问题,同时完善进步相关制度。

    • @jimmylee789
      @jimmylee789 2 года назад

      是的,非常有效,除非是你个人利益为主而无视群体利益的要求将不会得到很好的结果

    • @murin7185
      @murin7185 2 года назад +2

      Bullshit

    • @jimmylee789
      @jimmylee789 2 года назад

      @@murin7185 🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈

    • @mack9666
      @mack9666 2 года назад +3

      他们还是不了解中国,你可以投诉政府部分的不作为的,

    • @automatism4790
      @automatism4790 2 года назад

      请问在西方怎么搞社会主义和共产主义?

  • @majinbuu6278
    @majinbuu6278 2 года назад +1

    Freedom exists as long as you are following the party, if not, you will have nothing.

  • @user-io1oo1hz4e
    @user-io1oo1hz4e Год назад +2

    真棒的分析,如果在中国你不做犯罪的事情,你就是最自由的

  • @darkbyf1
    @darkbyf1 2 года назад +5

    公正的说,中国的选举是形式上的。而且现在国际形势不好,国内更倾向于统一思想,言论控制逐渐严厉。这也是挑战第一强国要做的牺牲。尽可能的把内部扭成一根绳,形成一股统一的力量。但是也希望在最终结果出来后,社会会又逐渐开放

    • @user-rf4rm4fx8u
      @user-rf4rm4fx8u 2 года назад

      坦白说,中国的政府官员是精英选拔制,从基层县乡或企业等各机关单位、市、省、中央,层层选拔,只有正在的精英分子才能最终登顶!远比国外什么公交车司机、演员、地产商、教师、律师当总统强一万倍!并且没有在野党和执政党的撕逼消耗,为了反对而反对!

    • @hanzohon1564
      @hanzohon1564 2 года назад

      @@user-rf4rm4fx8u The rank of officials is also proportional to the age, to prevent young officials from impulsive (although sometimes older officials are more rigid). In general, the advantages slightly outweigh the disadvantages.

    • @user-qc6rn7qw1j
      @user-qc6rn7qw1j 2 года назад

      你错了,共产党有全世界最大的在野党!西方国家和媒体还有逆子台湾

  • @agnosticpagan
    @agnosticpagan 2 года назад +16

    I frame the issue slightly differently. The West loves dichotomies and trying to create a black and white world - "You are either with us or against us" - and so the opposite of freedom or 'liberalism' must be 'illiberalism' or fascism. And so any country that doesn't fully embrace the Western ideals of liberalism is seen as fascist/totalitarian. But there is a third choice - non-liberal. Neither liberal nor illiberal, it neither encourages nor discourages liberal values, since those values are not paramount as they supposedly are in the West. Most non-Western countries are somewhere in the triangle of those three points, and may lean toward different sides depending on the issue. Some countries are very liberal economically, but illiberal in religion, yet non-liberal in regards to media.
    In a similar fashion, theism is contrasted with atheism/anti-theism, but also non-theism. It is not agnosticism (Are their gods?), but simple indifference (So what if there are gods). Non-theism ignores the question and seeks fulfillment elsewhere. Traditional Marxism promoted atheism, but I view the PRC as non-theist. People can practice whatever faith they want, as long as it doesn't disrupt society or seek to impose itself on others.
    And as Oli wonderfully points out, the West cannot even agree on what is 'liberal'. (And I would argue that they cannot even define 'conservatism' either anymore.) "Social Justice" war is a great description. And as others have noted, Western liberalism is very rooted in individualism. Freedoms, rights, privileges, etc are seen as individual perogatives. China and other countries have a more communal view of freedoms and rights, a greater sense of familial and social responsibilities and obligations, and a less materialist definition of success that doesn't prioritize individual achievements
    Underlying this whole debate is one of the great questions of this century. Can a country be free from US hegemony - which serves oligarchs and their interests, not the liberal society protrayed in its propaganda. That hegemony is crumbling both from within (Gen Z and Millennials are far less vested in the system since they unable to afford what it 'offers', and have a more global and humanistic viewpoint that previous generations), and from without - the rise of China being paramount, but other nations and regions declaring their own path as well.

    • @zhepama
      @zhepama 2 года назад

      说的很棒!👍

    • @hannahwoods1446
      @hannahwoods1446 2 года назад

      @粉絲 原来如此,你比中国人自己还要更了解中国人,能代替中国人决定什么是对中国人更好的,能代替中国人自己对他们进行政治的定义。

  • @andyhou8355
    @andyhou8355 2 года назад +4

    I think you can do what you want without touching any laws and regulations. That's freedom.

  • @linhwang6651
    @linhwang6651 2 года назад +1

    A Chinese student went to US to attend a summer camp. He did not like US because it was lack of freedom - too many restrictions in US. It is understandable, as there are many rules and regulations to follow in the western countries!

  • @areswong8622
    @areswong8622 2 года назад +2

    As an indigenous Chinese legal civilian, I do really like your perspective on reading the word of freedom here.
    I think it is quite similar that whether the nation or the states is monopolized by a government or a capitalism nominal one.
    The so called politics is to make the monopolies' fight and quarrels polite.

    • @dhi4817
      @dhi4817 2 года назад

      我英文不好,所以我用中文回复你,谢谢,我感觉很多国人但是很多国人却被 那些华语博主给误导了,我要看所有的客观 的华语时事博主只有一个@不吐不快有货君

  • @paulby88able
    @paulby88able 2 года назад +11

    Free Julian Assange’s
    Freedom of speech lol

    • @abbotsful
      @abbotsful 2 года назад

      He should be free but, kind of a special case don't you think?

    • @shnmak2958
      @shnmak2958 2 года назад +4

      @@abbotsful You mean the “special case” of all whistleblowers who try to expose the dirty tricks these government have been playing on the world?

    • @fuguestate2503
      @fuguestate2503 2 года назад +2

      @@abbotsful your name is in the comments section of every fucking popular positive video about China being a reply guy. You and your ilk have the audacity to accuse people of shilling whenever they defend China from pure slander, yet you behave like this? The """50c army""", """CCP/Russian bot""", etc. was always nothing but pure projection on part of the liberal establishment and commenters like you always help to reinforce this point.

    • @pluto-mq5to
      @pluto-mq5to 2 года назад

      @@abbotsful double standard SB

    • @paulby88able
      @paulby88able 2 года назад

      China got more freedom speech than the west.. China every 9ne not what to say plus the Chinese government doing a great jobs why should anyone criticism of the government. You get work no riot you can walk down the street you are safe. What else you want

  • @seechunchong9876
    @seechunchong9876 2 года назад +9

    There is actually no absolute freedom of speech or behavior. What is the so called "freedom" is what is really what is permitted by the laws of each country to maintain its social order, public security/stability etc etc. For example, which country allow anyone to simply shout "Fire" or talk loudly, in a crowded cinema, or in a library or in a court room or when a judge walks in, can you exercise your personal freedom by refusing to stand up when the "All rise" call is made? Or simply just drive through the "Red" traffic lights? Or walk naked in the streets? One may think it is your right but if the the law don't allow it or even in the places where there is no law for it, you may end up in some kind of trouble if you create public/social disorder or nuisance. Every place on earth has its own laws/rules on what their people can or cannot do, for such social/community reasons...and even if we don't understand or agree with their reasons, we have to respect that, because the whole world don't belong to any particular one or any party alone.

  • @xwqi
    @xwqi 2 года назад +4

    Criticism: you can accuse government leaders of wrong policies.
    But you can't radically discredit leaders. Or verbally abuse anyone. These are two different questions.
    The government accepts any criticism of the wrong policy. If you have evidence.
    In China, if a disaster happens, the local first person in charge will be punished.
    For example, after the outbreak in Wuhan. The mayor was soon removed from office.
    In case of a major accident on the high-speed railway, the Minister of railways, emergency command and technical director shall be subject to criminal punishment

    • @user-hz9cm9qy3n
      @user-hz9cm9qy3n 2 года назад +2

      China has real democracy. Because the Chinese people's supervisory power is effective. A country is a false democracy if the people's supervisory power is invalid. Whether you ask the government to change its policies through any means, demonstrations or online protests, if the government ignores the wishes of the people, the people's supervision power in the country is invalid, which is a false democracy. The government doesn't care about your cry and parade. If a country fails to do so except for social problems, such as untimely disaster relief or other government responsibilities, resulting in heavy losses to the people, then someone in the government should be punished. This is called the official accountability system in China. But in the west, there is no such thing. It is impossible for western political parties to allow such a thing to exist. Therefore, many countries are false democracies. Capitalists and consortia rule the whole country, the media is theirs, the voice of the people at the bottom, the media will not report, and the role of the media is propaganda brainwashing.

    • @kaipeng6453
      @kaipeng6453 2 года назад

      That's really ture.I'm an original Chinese.

  • @qifanyang2301
    @qifanyang2301 2 года назад +2

    I like your ideas Barrett! Thank you for bringing this amazing content!

  • @mengjingsheng2711
    @mengjingsheng2711 2 года назад +1

    感谢你对中国的认可!很开心大家能用越来越客观的眼光看待中国🇨🇳。

  • @lokok7643
    @lokok7643 2 года назад +5

    freedom to be living is more important than freedom of speech, especially the freedom to defend China.

  • @KK-gb5mj
    @KK-gb5mj 2 года назад +18

    Convenience comes with cost, and so as freedom. It is the value of the society to determine which one to choose. Hence, every country has its own way to balance between freedom and convenience.

  • @user-sf9vx5db6u
    @user-sf9vx5db6u 2 года назад +9

    谢谢你,谢谢你对中国客观理性发言。长久以来,西方政府对中国的抹黑导致西方人民对中国误解。我们中国欢迎像你这样客观理性的国际友人

  • @fuu812
    @fuu812 2 года назад +1

    Twitter will not bring you in jail for violating their own terms.
    Neither the ability to make you physically disappear, at least by law.

  • @ccwong0526
    @ccwong0526 2 года назад +1

    Thank you very much for making this video. What a fair and deep insight! Totally agreed with you! You truly are an international citizen. Hope everyone in this world can be like you.