The Sad Truth Behind The Lion Sleeps Tonight

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  • Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
  • There is an interesting story behind the origins of one of the most successful pop songs ever: The Lion Sleeps Tonight. It's a journey that spans multiple continents, several decades, and millions of dollars.
    The Lion Sleeps Tonight" is a song originally written and recorded by Solomon Linda in South Africa in 1939. The song was originally entitle "Mbube". Solomon Linda's original version was written in Zulu. In the 1950s and 60s, Mbube was adapted, covered, and restyled by many international pop and folk revival artists - most famously by the Tokens who went on to make millions as it became one of the most successful pop songs of all time. The song has been featured in a number of films and tv shows including Disney's The Lion King and the sitcom Friends. Plus, this story has been turned into a Netflix documentary called ReMastered: The Lion's Share.
    #TheLionSleepsTonight
    Transcript (highlights):
    December 18th 1961, The Tokens earn a No.1 hit with The Lion Sleeps Tonight. The song that topped the Billboard pop chart on December 18, 1961, was an instant classic that went on to become one of the most successful pop songs of all time, yet its true originator saw only a tiny fraction of the song’s enormous profits. If you don’t want your feelings on this song to be tainted by the depressing truth of the origins of this song, please skip to this part of the video now. For those of you that do, here it comes.
    The story begins in Johannesburg, South Africa,1938. A group of Zulu singers called Solomon Linda and the Evening Birds stepped into the first recording studio ever set up in sub-Saharan Africa and recorded a song called “Mbube”- which is Zulu for “the lion.” and it sounded like this. play song. Sound a bit familiar…yeah. “Mbube” was a regional hit, and it helped make Solomon Linda into a South African star. And the story might have ended there had a copy of the record not made its way to New York City in the early 1950s, where it was saved from the slush pile at Decca Records by the legendary folklorist Alan Lomax.
    Without actually hearing any of the records in a box sent from Africa, Lomax thought his friend, Pete Seeger a famous folksinger at the time. Unable to understand the lyrics of “Mbube,” Seeger transcribed the central chant as “Wimoweh,” and that became the name of the song as recorded by the Weavers and released in early 1952, and it sounded like this play song However, this was just as the group was about to be blacklisted thanks to the McCarthy hearings. Eventually, Jay Siegel, the teenage lead singer of the Tokens, would hear and fall in love with “Wimoweh” through the Kingston Trio’s cover version of the Weavers’ song.
    The Tokens’ label commissioned English-language lyrics for the song, which was re-titled “The Lion Sleeps Tonight” and went on to become not just a #1 song on this day in 1961, and it sounded like the play song but one of the most-covered, most successful pop songs of all time. In 2000, South African journalist Rian Malan followed the music and the money associated with “The Lion Sleeps Tonight,” exposing the series of business arrangements that ended up making millions for a handful of prominent U.S. music publishers while yielding only a $1,000 check from Pete Seeger to Solomon Linda during Linda’s lifetime. Because Solomon's composition was treated as public-domain “folk” material by Seeger and by the subsequent writer of the English-language lyrics in the Tokens’ version, Linda never participated in the royalty stream generated by either “Wimoweh” or “The Lion Sleeps Tonight.”
    And prior to reaching an undisclosed settlement in 2006, his heirs received only a tiny fraction of the millions of dollars they might have been due had Linda retained his songwriting credit on what Malan rightly calls “The most famous melody ever to emerge from Africa.” Yeah, pretty disheartening isn't it? anyway, I’ve got to do a welcome back for the people who skipped it. Welcome back, hope you continue to enjoy the song with out the emotional burden the rest of us will carry round every time we hear it.

Комментарии • 6 тыс.

  • @DefinitelyOwen
    @DefinitelyOwen  3 года назад +1346

    I apologise for my mispronunciation of the word 'mbube'. I should have taken the time to research the word and gotten the pronunciation right.

    • @scottmiller8493
      @scottmiller8493 3 года назад +85

      No worries! It's not that big of a deal really. Only the insecure will care.

    • @Qrayon
      @Qrayon 3 года назад +163

      You should have, but I accept your apology.

    • @raghulpn5729
      @raghulpn5729 3 года назад +27

      No worries... It doesn't matter unless you tell us no lie about the history..
      Nice video, never thought of this dark history...
      Although this low pay check thing sounds a bit depressing at first, it actually is pretty common, this is business, right?!

    • @hlomladandala9824
      @hlomladandala9824 3 года назад +143

      It would sound like this this “M’boo-bay”

    • @acatlover138
      @acatlover138 3 года назад +42

      Nope, unacceptable! You r permanently shunned from society. Mispronunciation-ers will pay the penalty🤣 jk

  • @stuartmcgill0485
    @stuartmcgill0485 4 года назад +1923

    The MBUBE original was played in the movie Coming To America too.

    • @BEElaine1008
      @BEElaine1008 4 года назад +14

      😮

    • @cmclem1959
      @cmclem1959 4 года назад +90

      And the family probably wasn't paid for that either

    • @bos3835
      @bos3835 4 года назад +40

      Ace Ventura also!

    • @theguy8665
      @theguy8665 4 года назад +14

      Exactly!!👌

    • @ThirtyThreeHipHop
      @ThirtyThreeHipHop 4 года назад +32

      Your right. Obviously for a reason too. Reparations dude! Eddie Murphy is that dad!

  • @Funktastic_Ed
    @Funktastic_Ed 4 года назад +807

    M Bube was the war name of king Shaka Zulu , the song pretend that he is not dead but only sleeping waiting for awakening.

  • @tonyhibbert2342
    @tonyhibbert2342 4 года назад +296

    this story just proves how wrong copyright really is !

    • @MontiRock
      @MontiRock 3 года назад +10

      no. it was the racist way it was treated. Copyright was fine.

    • @tonyhibbert2342
      @tonyhibbert2342 3 года назад +5

      @@MontiRock Copyright destroys the right of others to create new things ! ,,,,

    • @MontiRock
      @MontiRock 3 года назад +20

      @@tonyhibbert2342 False. The law itself prevents people from ripping off people. it's the way racist white people screwed him over. That had nothing to do with copyright laws

    • @yaminanatsaret
      @yaminanatsaret 3 года назад +7

      @@tonyhibbert2342 how? that’s the point of copyright so something someone has already done can’t be copied. If it’s copyrighted then it’s not original...nor new. But we all who are aware knows the history of how ideas were STOLEN from those who could not copyright. That there is wrong.

    • @tonyhibbert2342
      @tonyhibbert2342 3 года назад +3

      @@yaminanatsaret Any song writer will tell you that almost every single girls name has been copyrighted ! Therefore if i or you write a song about the love you have for your wife and call it i love < insert her name here > and the song goes viral becoming an instant worldwide hit ... YOU will have to pay copyright fees to the turd that makes a living simply by writting copyyright over any names not already covered ,,,, Many city names etc are also covered ! This is what is wrong ! ... copyright on a book , song etc that someone has worked hard on is right ! but the laws as current , are wrong ! ...As is the time things can be copyright ! ...

  • @vivecamotsieloa4634
    @vivecamotsieloa4634 7 месяцев назад +18

    My grandfather brought Linda to the Gallo studio arranged the piece and my grandmother played the piano. May they all rest knowing the truth is out!❤

    • @ricenglish4556
      @ricenglish4556 2 месяца назад +1

      Well, it's certainly not arranged the way the Tokens did it. One tiny part is similar.

  • @nqobilemarlene7790
    @nqobilemarlene7790 4 года назад +237

    Indeed this is a Zulu original. It was created as part of King Shaka's praises as warrior and king. Imbube: i(N) Zulu prefix ; imbube its a synonym of a lion. Deep symbolism. Uyimbube meaning 'you are a lion'. King of the jungle. This song stems from deep metaphor and symbolism.

    • @vetb882
      @vetb882 3 года назад

      See my comment above

    • @SBCBears
      @SBCBears 3 года назад +4

      So, in the public domain and no copyright possible.

    • @scottmiller8493
      @scottmiller8493 3 года назад

      @@vetb882 Your comment is gone?!

    • @heatherjones6647
      @heatherjones6647 3 года назад +18

      @@SBCBears Can't have public domain without the concept of private intellectual property. Neither of these ideas originated with the Zulu. Therefore, they can't be imposed on Zulu cultural product by foreign entities. The US legal system is valid only in the US. Nevertheless, once Solomon and band recorded their version, it entered via western technology into the general western legal idea of property. The Americans didn't hear it sung out in the bush while on safari; they heard it as a recording by a particular set of artists who sang a song. The fact that it dates back to the 19th century and had circulated widely in the Zulu zeitgeist is irrelevant to the case. The Americans stole a specific artistic work and all proceeds should be handed over to the creators' descendents in perpetuity along with a groveling apology.

    • @JRT5573
      @JRT5573 3 года назад +6

      @@heatherjones6647 There was a settlement reached (2006?) which gave Solomon Linda's descendent 1.6 million dollars and succeeding royalties. "Mbube" was copyrighted in South Africa by Gallo Records who recorded Solomon Linda's record, but that copyright expired in 2012. However, the copyright for "The Lion Sleeps Tonight" continues. As near as I can tell, the from the original recording, there were no other words other than the under-chant of "Uyimbube", Zulu for "you ar the lion," which was misheard in America as "wimoweh."
      Here is the wikipedia article:
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lion_Sleeps_Tonight#History
      In a wikipedia article about who has been credited with the song (George David Weiss) "The Lion Sleeps Tonight," the settlement of 2006 had the 4 following points:
      1. Linda's heirs will receive payment for past uses of "The Lion Sleeps Tonight" and an entitlement to future royalties.
      2. "The Lion Sleeps Tonight" is acknowledged as derived from "Mbube".
      3. Solomon Linda is acknowledged as a co-composer of the song and will be designated as such.
      4. A trust will be formed to administer the heirs’ copyright and to receive on their behalf the payments due.
      Though I cannot confirm it, I am assuming that the words "In the jungle, the mighty jungle..." were written by Weiss using a tune that Solomon Linda improvised near the end of his 1939 recording - at about 2:20.
      Here is the original recording:
      ruclips.net/video/mrrQT4WkbNE/видео.html

  • @leerenae313
    @leerenae313 3 года назад +294

    Hey from South Africa here... It's pronounced *Mmm-booo-beh* lol thanks for covering this

    • @susiemuirhead561
      @susiemuirhead561 3 года назад +7

      I love South African music!

    • @byhkhla7623
      @byhkhla7623 3 года назад +1

      And what does it mean? I am curious.

    • @leerenae313
      @leerenae313 3 года назад +6

      @@byhkhla7623 lol it means Lion

    • @byhkhla7623
      @byhkhla7623 3 года назад +5

      @@leerenae313 Thanx...google translate did not give me a word. The original song is far more melodious and deep. I love South African music.

    • @leerenae313
      @leerenae313 3 года назад +2

      @@byhkhla7623 haha yeah google isn't very reliable at times😂 I agree with you 💯

  • @LiwaySaGu
    @LiwaySaGu 4 года назад +633

    i'm asian but whenever i hear that lion song it gives me an impression of as being black music. i was surprised to
    know caucasians popularized (and so i thought wrote) it, but now it makes sense knowing it really is black
    music

    • @timothysmith4260
      @timothysmith4260 4 года назад +109

      Most of it is "Black" music. Billions have been earned off of the intellectual property of Black people.

    • @madandy3176
      @madandy3176 4 года назад +30

      @@timothysmith4260 There is no "intellectual property" of black people. Music is music and is the intellectual property of the individual who created it. If you want to keep it your "intellectual property" then don't share or publish it and go all the way and promote separatism and condemn Eminem and Jimi Hendrix as exploiters of other races quote intellectual property unquote.

    • @timothysmith4260
      @timothysmith4260 4 года назад +88

      @@madandy3176 that's the stupidest thing said ever. There is a sound that is developed by a people and it would be obvious who it came from. We may not collectively reap the monetary benefits of said property, but it does prove worth of a race. That's like saying Chinese music doesn't show that Chinese people have the mental and productive capacity worthy of it's place in the world. People steal from us and make those sorts of statements. I'm all for separatism. I'll leave just as soon as you cut that check. I'm curious as to what you mean with jimi Hendrix.. Are you saying that he stole from white people, because blacks created Rock, or are you saying that since he was part white, he helped exploit a black creation?

    • @madandy3176
      @madandy3176 4 года назад +11

      @@timothysmith4260 If you start your comment with "That's the stupidest thing said ever" then respond to the point then your response is based upon and contrived by prejudice rather than intellect. Your original comment was "Most of it is "Black" music. Billions have been earned off of the intellectual property of Black people." Ok, I get where you were coming from but under pressure you now say " We may not collectively reap the monetary benefits of said property, but it does prove worth of a race" and now it changes from "black" to "race" when of course a race can combine a number or colours and a colour, like black can apply to a diversity of races thus confirming that the concept of "intellectual property" which can be applied as much to those of the same colour or race (as proven by numerous copyright disputes) is being, um, culturally appropriated by yourself to fit in with a predetermined (by yourself) socio-political agenda.
      You say "That's like saying Chinese music doesn't show that Chinese people have the mental and productive capacity worthy of it's place in the world. People steal from us and make those sorts of statements." Now that is one of the stupidest things to say. If there are people who are affectively saying Chinese music is total crap then they are hardly going to steal it! You say "I'm all for separatism. I'll leave just as soon as you cut that check." So what? You identify as Chinese yet use the name Timothy Smith AND have a thing about "intellectual property" based upon race. Are you for real?
      "I'm curious as to what you mean with Jimi Hendrix. Are you saying that he stole from white people, because blacks created Rock, or are you saying that since he was part white, he helped exploit a black creation?" You need to work that out for yourself because your question is based upon the assumption that I acknowledge the concept of "intellectual property" when the basis of our dispute is that you recognise it and I don't which in turn puts that question under the "stupidest thing category.. The clue is that I included Eminem in the same commentary.

    • @timothysmith4260
      @timothysmith4260 4 года назад +66

      @@madandy3176 you just said a whole lot of nothing. When I say the term BLACK, everyone knows who I mean, except you, huh? Black isn't a race, but since that term was made up by people who had the power to enforce labels, we'll use that. Good thing that you are not the judge of what belongs to whom, because your ideology is that of usual Devil tactics. Folks will ask, "What did Black people do or produce that make them worthy to breathe air?" When we break out the list, then they wanna say that that's for everyone and we are racist. Eminem is an good rapper. It doesn't stop him from being in an art form started and made popular by Black people. Descendants of slaves, since you want to act like which Black folks I'm talking about. Jimi Hendrix is Idumaen by race, but have enough Black in him to look and act Black. His approach with the guitar was like a black blues player. I'm certainly not Chinese, so now you're being a Devil. I know that you're not stupid. You are attempting to dissemble like Devils do. If I told you that classical music was EVERYBODY'S music without acknowledging White/European roots, that would make me a liar and an evil man. I'll talk to stupid, but I have no words with evil.

  • @pamb.1516
    @pamb.1516 2 года назад +48

    In the early 50s, my father had the '78 of Wimoweh and played it often, so I feel like I grew up with The Lion Sleeps Tonight. When I told my friends in the 60s that it wasn't a "new" song, they all thought I was crazy. But I knew I wasn't! Thanks for this video on the history of the song!

    • @scootermom1791
      @scootermom1791 Год назад +3

      For young people who don't know what you meant by "a '78," it was a 10 inch record that played at 78 RPM.
      Oh, and a "record" was something that played music before cassette tapes and CD'S and MP3 players. Ha ha ha! I couldn't resist the last part.😀

    • @hammond1994
      @hammond1994 Год назад +2

      I remember a radio show in the 1970s that explored the history of this song.

    • @janetr7022
      @janetr7022 Год назад +3

      @@scootermom1791 Also, remember 8-track tapes?

    • @scootermom1791
      @scootermom1791 Год назад +1

      @@janetr7022 Sure do!

  • @a3a14613
    @a3a14613 4 года назад +1006

    So many stories like that in the music industry. 😢

    • @JFairweather
      @JFairweather 4 года назад +18

      Not true in this case. Solomon Linda sold the rights to the song, It was not stolen.

    • @a3a14613
      @a3a14613 4 года назад +13

      @Sebastian GuevaraWrong. www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5300359

    • @serf664
      @serf664 4 года назад +14

      @@a3a14613 thank you for sharing the link. It is very comforting to know that the daughters were paid in the end.

    • @karenp1687
      @karenp1687 4 года назад +9

      @Sebastian Guevara
      Well, there are a few "just a song"'s out there that could make you never have to work again!

    • @shady7029
      @shady7029 4 года назад +24

      @@JFairweather Yeah..really?!! White Colonialist created a oppressive, murderous, racist system which by law forced Black South Africans labour and talent to be used freely or to be bought for cheap. This activity to reprobate White Westerners is called "Fair Trade".

  • @porshprix4286
    @porshprix4286 3 года назад +322

    So the original artist got cheated.
    Not uncommon even now.

    • @waltkraybill5129
      @waltkraybill5129 3 года назад +6

      Not really.

    • @virtualatheist
      @virtualatheist 3 года назад +6

      @@waltkraybill5129 It seems to be even more virulent now.

    • @smallfeet4581
      @smallfeet4581 3 года назад +4

      oh there were lots who got done out of royalties or credits for a song , some today are not so naive about the music industry thankfully ,

    • @MovieMakingMan
      @MovieMakingMan 3 года назад +3

      In a capitalistic system the true innovators or inventors usually have their ideas stolen by no talent predators who make all the money off other people’s ideas. Capitalism is corrupt and the rules of capitalism are written by the sociopathic rich who buy politicians and write laws to favor predatory sociopaths.

    • @user-bb5wq6vw5f
      @user-bb5wq6vw5f 3 года назад +1

      Yes that figures of thiefts, taking credit.

  • @jozellajock6285
    @jozellajock6285 3 года назад +852

    The first time I heard the song , all the melodies and humming screamed African style because we recognize our music

    • @cobrakaicyberdon
      @cobrakaicyberdon 3 года назад +61

      I think everyone can recognise it's African

    • @dianaa.1735
      @dianaa.1735 3 года назад +25

      Its such wonderful music, performed by and heard by EVERYONE of all colors, that I'd say THIS song has become everyone's music.

    • @emmanuelumoren5230
      @emmanuelumoren5230 3 года назад +25

      We will always recognise our own. Every single time!

    • @katizz988
      @katizz988 3 года назад +31

      Are you serious???😣How can you say, I'm assuming only black people can recognize African music? There's so many different sounds from Africa that sound like Indian, Mid. Eastern, Asian...etc🤔🤨

    • @eluaguwilliam
      @eluaguwilliam 3 года назад +11

      @@katizz988 Sis.... African music is recognizable by all, if their is no drum beat 5here are humming and whirling and rhythm in a very dramatic sequence whether it's a slow or fast music!

  • @ferdinandsiegel4470
    @ferdinandsiegel4470 Год назад +3

    Just imagine how many songs were done and somebody comes along and does a better job at it.

  • @georgepolly6943
    @georgepolly6943 3 года назад +60

    I'm South African 73 years old and remember this song very clearly long before the Lion King. Lions do not live in the Jungle...they live in the "veld". George Polly

    • @alcyone9361
      @alcyone9361 2 года назад

      @@filthylucreonyoutube Neither does self righteous snowflake whining.

  • @curtisthomas2670
    @curtisthomas2670 4 года назад +521

    It was decided in court that Solomon's daughters were entitled to millions in royalties

    • @kboop11
      @kboop11 4 года назад +38

      Good

    • @MarkJones
      @MarkJones 4 года назад +9

      I'm not so sure it was decided based on this: www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5300359

    • @johnhendricks8140
      @johnhendricks8140 3 года назад +17

      I hope so.

    • @destaylor8083
      @destaylor8083 3 года назад +38

      If they can't control it there'll copy it 😈

    • @DrLove911
      @DrLove911 3 года назад +3

      😁👍🏆🏆🏆. I hope so 😁👍

  • @Shardonnae
    @Shardonnae 3 года назад +51

    Wow, thank you for taking the time to resarch and shining light on that song (Giving credit wher credit is due).

  • @finncarlbomholtsrensen1188
    @finncarlbomholtsrensen1188 3 года назад +41

    A very popular Danish singer, Flemming "Bamse" Joergensen, who became very popular with his version of this song, found out that the composer hadn't been paid, so he actually sent him the profit from his version in Danish.

  • @teddygraham5230
    @teddygraham5230 3 года назад +258

    This is nothing new. I appreciate “Coming to America” used the original South African version.

    • @heatherjones6647
      @heatherjones6647 3 года назад +13

      Did the film remit royalties directly to the heirs? If not it is still theft.

    • @tahira1
      @tahira1 3 года назад +6

      @@heatherjones6647 obviously if they used the original song, they were aware and the heirs would automatically receive the royalties.

    • @kkrolf2782
      @kkrolf2782 3 года назад +10

      @@tahira1 There is never anything “automatic” with regard to money, especially when it comes to monies funneling to rightful recipients.

    • @tahira1
      @tahira1 3 года назад

      @@kkrolf2782 the song is registered in the PRS amongst other entities which are there to ensure the heirs receive their due. So in this case yes you can know that automatically their monies are being sent.

    • @kkrolf2782
      @kkrolf2782 3 года назад

      @@tahira1 thank you for the follow up.

  • @maryke1142
    @maryke1142 3 года назад +63

    I knew as a kid that the song had to have originated in one of the African countries. Thanks for covering this.

  • @RJCHOICE
    @RJCHOICE 3 года назад +282

    "The Tokens" .. How Ironic.

    • @leelarson107
      @leelarson107 3 года назад +6

      Given the Democrats' plan to open the US borders to the whole world to come here and live for free, WE will soon be 'the tokens'.

    • @RJCHOICE
      @RJCHOICE 3 года назад +19

      @@leelarson107
      What do you mean "We"?

    • @herthaschmitt7823
      @herthaschmitt7823 3 года назад +7

      @@leelarson107 Tokens for whom and what?

    • @mobeg8765
      @mobeg8765 3 года назад +23

      @@leelarson107 WTF are you talking about? You sound deranged. I’ve been a black token in your sick sad world for a long time. No one is opening up the borders so “everyone” can come here, just some people that look different than you. Sorry that things aren’t going to look so milquetoast in the next couple of decades. Your browner descendants will have better genes in the next generation.

    • @randalls9822
      @randalls9822 3 года назад

      Very aptly named 😞

  • @quintessawolfprincess3618
    @quintessawolfprincess3618 3 года назад +183

    As much as I love this song {though I was terrified of it as a kid}, I feel sorry for Solomon Linda and his family, since they continued to be poor even after the song became popular. His wife couldn't even afford a grave for him when he passed! I'll still continue to listen to it and other versions of it to show my support for him.

    • @markjapan4062
      @markjapan4062 2 года назад

      AFRICA DONT HAVE WOLVES .WOLF AND WOLFE IS CHEROKEE.

    • @ichwilldaslebenausihmficke4632
      @ichwilldaslebenausihmficke4632 2 года назад

      Why did it terrify you?

    • @jess-do7sn
      @jess-do7sn Год назад +4

      My siblings were also scared of it

    • @KindlTAS
      @KindlTAS 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@ichwilldaslebenausihmficke4632 I'm gonna guess it was the Doctor Who episode "Rise of the Cybermen."

  • @1duskyknight
    @1duskyknight 4 года назад +192

    The Lion Sleeps Tonight is a funeral song that was sung when a King died to rise again.

    • @jessicaschoonmaker2073
      @jessicaschoonmaker2073 4 года назад +9

      yes

    • @vetb882
      @vetb882 3 года назад +4

      Exactly. 🥰💝👏 See my comment as above

    • @KM-pm6qe
      @KM-pm6qe 3 года назад +3

      Is that really true? That sure puts the song in a different emotional light than what I thought.

    • @louisestaats234
      @louisestaats234 3 года назад +5

      Interesting. The song "Nights in White Satin" was also a funeral song.

  • @bernadeangreene2917
    @bernadeangreene2917 3 года назад +585

    Once again, "the original group that made this classic song didn't get near what it was worth and what they was worth". Thanks for sharing the history.

    • @mikegee8875
      @mikegee8875 3 года назад +23

      Do a remake called "while Biden sleeps tonight"

    • @jamaicanwash6667
      @jamaicanwash6667 3 года назад +3

      @@mikegee8875 lmao

    • @denisburgess2966
      @denisburgess2966 3 года назад +25

      @@mikegee8875 Pathetic comment

    • @wanaraz
      @wanaraz 3 года назад +5

      @@mikegee8875 LOL Yeah but you have to leave out the lion part.

    • @p.w.7493
      @p.w.7493 3 года назад +3

      @@wanaraz
      Your 'moniker' is apropos and says it all! You REALLY 'don't know', do you?💯

  • @valeriemacphail9180
    @valeriemacphail9180 3 года назад +273

    As a youngster in Johannesburg in the 60's, I can guarantee this story was common knowledge. Particularly amongst music lovers.

    • @jamesvickers9476
      @jamesvickers9476 3 года назад +6

      well those he didn't had no idea until now

    • @valeriemacphail9180
      @valeriemacphail9180 3 года назад +10

      @@jamesvickers9476 ...those he didn't, or those who didn't? The point being, IT WAS NOT A SECRET.

    • @escae
      @escae 3 года назад +1

      Hello gramps

    • @paavobergmann4920
      @paavobergmann4920 3 года назад +9

      I grew up in the 80 in germany, and I always thought it was an african song.

    • @JaneDoe-ci3gj
      @JaneDoe-ci3gj 3 года назад +3

      I didn't know it until now!

  • @theusher2893
    @theusher2893 2 года назад +22

    This happened a LOT through the 20s through the 60s. My dad was in a band in 1968 who had a hot local hit, and his manager forged his signature to get the money to the rights for national distribution, but my dad and his band never knew. It would've amounted to about 300k in todays dollars, and for a kid in 1968 it would've made his day. It could've paid for his mom's kidney surgery, help his sisters through college...but it was stolen from him. Unfortunately the manager died decades ago so nothing could have come of it through a modern lawsuit.
    On the upside the 5678s covered one of his songs back in 2009ish. They sent him a very sweet letter with a limited edition LP that they all signed. It's one of his most treasured possessions.

    • @vrinda5303
      @vrinda5303 Год назад +1

      What was the song that was a local hit for your dad?

    • @scootermom1791
      @scootermom1791 Год назад

      It still happens! Nick Kershaw's song, "Wouldn't it be Good?" was stolen from him by the producers of "Pretty in Pink" in the 80's. They never asked him if they could use it; never asked if they could have another group sing it; never compensated him for it; nothing! I'm sure there are tons of similar stories. I don't understand why they even bother with copyright laws if they never enforce them!!

    • @scootermom1791
      @scootermom1791 Год назад

      @theusher are you referring to "Great Balls of Fire," or "Hanky Panky?" Those were covered by the 5678s in 2011. They went from 2004 to 2011 without any covers.
      What was the name of your dad's band?

  • @brxtmp106
    @brxtmp106 3 года назад +30

    Don't know how this popped up in my recommendations in 2021 but as an old folk singer from the 1960s I found this entire video's content fascinating. Thanks for presenting it...

    • @Superman679
      @Superman679 3 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/ahkLIs_Dqv4/видео.html

  • @hanchee2664
    @hanchee2664 3 года назад +74

    For those of us who grew up in the 50s and the '60s forward, we can understand a lot of what goes on for the sake of money. Good to see people like you that is sincerely involved in doing the right thing, congratulations

  • @tinalouise5475
    @tinalouise5475 4 года назад +338

    Anyone remember this from "Coming to America"

    • @fedoramcclaren4294
      @fedoramcclaren4294 4 года назад +8

      I was just about to type that!!! I was about to sing along!!!

    • @jenniferwiilis5267
      @jenniferwiilis5267 4 года назад +8

      Yes the used the original song but did the family get royalties from that🤔

    • @mbyrd6713
      @mbyrd6713 4 года назад +14

      @Babadook I’m from America and I agree with you. However, compared to the commercials and information we see about Africa, the movie “Coming to America” is actually an improvement 🤦🏽‍♀️

    • @Tanix25
      @Tanix25 3 года назад +13

      @Babadook It was supposed to be funny and back in those days there was no political correct movement. I get it could be offensive now. But back then it was impressive that Eddie Murphy could pull off a movie that was mainstream as well as successful with mostly all black actors that was not a gangsta or hood type movie.

    • @tomorrowhowever7488
      @tomorrowhowever7488 3 года назад +5

      @Babadook That movie was strictly comedy. I'd like to believe that NO ONE thought that it was a representation of any African country! However, I do realize that idiots exist. Love from California!

  • @coolbreeze5683
    @coolbreeze5683 Год назад +23

    Mbube was also used in the movie Coming to America with Eddie Murphy. That's how I first heard of it as a kid. Both of my parents are African and I grew up hearing songs in the same tonal scale. I've always known The Lion Sleeps Tonight as an African song.

    • @ViginiaMolai
      @ViginiaMolai Год назад +3

      Even the rhythm you can tell it's black people singing

    • @olivierplm5023
      @olivierplm5023 Год назад +2

      It's Ladysmith black mambazo's version. Great one !!

  • @user-dk4ir6hn9n
    @user-dk4ir6hn9n 3 года назад +82

    That was awesome! I'm 59 and that's the first time I have ever heard that story. . . Do the math. . .I was born in 1961, the same year "The lion sleeps tonight" came out. . . My entire life, never heard the story, until now. Thank you.

    • @Superman679
      @Superman679 3 года назад +1

      ruclips.net/video/ahkLIs_Dqv4/видео.html

    • @carsandrajones7596
      @carsandrajones7596 2 года назад +1

      I DON'T SEE ANYTHING AWESOME ABOUT IT. STEALING FROM THE RIGHTFUL OWNER AND GETTING AWAY WITH IT IS A TRAGEDY.

    • @fitters2202
      @fitters2202 2 года назад

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      @fitters2202 2 года назад

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      @fitters2202 2 года назад

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  • @georgiarichards5628
    @georgiarichards5628 3 года назад +525

    I need to stop watching videos like this! Just breaks my heart how cruel evil wicked people are

    • @denzelvalentino8992
      @denzelvalentino8992 3 года назад +9

      That's not evil... that's WICKED!

    • @BG-lt4vf
      @BG-lt4vf 3 года назад +25

      Nahhhhh keep watching and researching Queen so we can educating the masses!

    • @blackapples4744
      @blackapples4744 3 года назад +42

      I disagree with you. People need to know how black people were taken advantage of... then and now.

    • @cowboy4jesus3N1
      @cowboy4jesus3N1 3 года назад +7

      All in the name of greed. I loathe that behavior. Any behavior that leads to one to poach or steal.

    • @clinthowe7629
      @clinthowe7629 3 года назад +8

      @@cowboy4jesus3N1 nobody poached anything, the record was in a batch of records brought for inspirational ideas from South Africa by a record company exec, the song was considered public domain in the us, there was no South African copyright law that was violated. These groups that made a
      Song from this were in all likelihood unaware of the existence of Solomon Linda, furthermore, why didn’t they have the record copyright protected?

  • @yashursuntheamericanindian
    @yashursuntheamericanindian 3 года назад +79

    The real version is played in Eddie Murphy, "coming to America", Mbube

  • @AliciaGuitar
    @AliciaGuitar 3 года назад +52

    We studied this in Music History in college. I went to the country's leading music and recording arts school in the USA, so that is encouraging. The word is getting out.

  • @michaelfranklin4276
    @michaelfranklin4276 3 года назад +40

    People should bear in mind that the Token's version was released as the "B" side of the 45. There was so little confidence that it would become a major hit at the time. People also forget this spawned African influences on later Token songs.

  • @apryl6788
    @apryl6788 3 года назад +21

    Thank You for sharing the TRUTH! It makes me so SAD that this happened & I'll never be able to hear the song the same! Like all things BIG MONEY, entitlement, corruption equals the same! Such a SAD world we live in!

  • @richardpele5427
    @richardpele5427 4 года назад +123

    Did Eddie Murphy know of this because his wake up alarm in "Coming To America" sounds like the original just slowed down, either way it still sounded beautiful.

    • @jenniferharding-williams1937
      @jenniferharding-williams1937 4 года назад +1

      Probably not

    • @namelesschild40
      @namelesschild40 3 года назад +9

      Eddie Murphy did the original

    • @yashursuntheamericanindian
      @yashursuntheamericanindian 3 года назад +2

      I am sure he knew, we wouldn't steal other cultures ideas for our own profit

    • @armyncveteranvital0611
      @armyncveteranvital0611 3 года назад +10

      I'm betting since it sounded more like the original it was strategically placed in the movie.

    • @patriciaparker7663
      @patriciaparker7663 3 года назад +2

      @@yashursuntheamericanindian that's always been done in the US Like the president brag about this economy but Obama had a 10 years Recovery Act. Obama said something about it "President Day" Trump said he trying to take credit for the economy.

  • @feraynor205
    @feraynor205 2 года назад +7

    Unfortunately this is not the only stolen property.Thank you for your great coverage on this one.

  • @you_can_call_me_T
    @you_can_call_me_T 3 года назад +258

    Miriam Makeba did a beautiful cover that pays homage to the original song.

    • @SuperSwifty59
      @SuperSwifty59 3 года назад +12

      My mother's fave singer Miriam Makeba

    • @lisataylor8468
      @lisataylor8468 3 года назад +11

      I’m in love love love with the Click Song by her. Beautiful!

    • @susiemuirhead561
      @susiemuirhead561 3 года назад +6

      I grew up listening to Miriam Makeba's Pata Pata and the Click Song.

    • @thecheddarshredder
      @thecheddarshredder 3 года назад +5

      Miriam was so beautiful!!! Out of all renditions of “the click song” hers from 1963 is my favorite. And pata pata is a bop 😂 and there is an interview she did and you can tell that she was so smart, it’s sad she was born during such an unfortunate time.

    • @you_can_call_me_T
      @you_can_call_me_T 3 года назад +4

      I think I could hang out with all of y'all lol. Do any of you remember the episode of the Cosby Show where she was on there?

  • @spheseko9039
    @spheseko9039 3 года назад +423

    I'm South African. We know the truth, we grew on the knowledge. Unfortunately there are those who are just always waiting to steal! Long live King Shaka. 🇿🇦🇿🇦

    • @ferengiprofiteer9145
      @ferengiprofiteer9145 3 года назад +24

      Stole it? What did Africans pay to hear it?
      Does anyone pay royalties to do Shakespeare plays?
      I'm just happy the origin got credit.
      They probably got it from some else as well.
      OBTW, pretty sure those were Africans that sold Africans into slavery.
      Slavery didn't originate in north America.

    • @mn5008
      @mn5008 3 года назад +25

      @@ferengiprofiteer9145 Man shut the fvck UP!!!

    • @christina7215
      @christina7215 3 года назад +12

      @@mn5008 no you stfu 🖕🏻

    • @pawwalker3492
      @pawwalker3492 3 года назад +6

      @@ferengiprofiteer9145 - amazing that you make a point disagreeing with someone, or pointing out that Africans sold their fellow Africans into slavery through tribal wars, and the best someone can answer you with is _"Man shut the fvck UP!!!"_

    • @shemeciahaskell322
      @shemeciahaskell322 3 года назад +18

      @@ferengiprofiteer9145 ignorance isn't bliss Shakespeee got credit for his work while he was alive but patents wear off after 200 years so anyone can sample after that. Also you need a real history lesson because the majority of African slaves were captured not sold by other Africans. " Reading is fundamental " 🙄

  • @mr.b.9969
    @mr.b.9969 3 года назад +35

    "Artist creates an original and catchy song"
    Music Industry: Put that under "public domain folk material"

  • @elisestrydom1081
    @elisestrydom1081 2 года назад +54

    I am from South Africa. Thank you for this clarifying video of the history of this song. The South African band Ladysmith Black Mambazo also does a beautiful version of this song.The tribal singing of all the tribes here in South Africa is quite amazing. You should go to an ordinary church meeting on Sundays and will truly be moved by the amazing voices of even ordinary church goers.

    • @tanyahoman8695
      @tanyahoman8695 2 года назад +3

      It amazes me how their singing always sounds like an angel choir. Most of them don't have any musical instruments or back tracks but they sing beautifully! In unison. And nobody ever seems to be of tune.

    • @TheRoyalBavarian
      @TheRoyalBavarian Год назад +1

      I would love to.

    • @scootermom1791
      @scootermom1791 Год назад

      Do the original lyrics mean "The Lion Sleeps Tonight," as depicted in the Americanized version? Or were those lyrics made up?

    • @sibusisow.buthelezi5130
      @sibusisow.buthelezi5130 Год назад +3

      ​@@scootermom1791No. It only means "King , you're the king, you're the king", or "Lion, you're the lion, you're the lion"
      Mbube, uyimbube, uyimbube

    • @scootermom1791
      @scootermom1791 Год назад

      @@sibusisow.buthelezi5130 That's really interesting! Thank you!

  • @gortbot7748
    @gortbot7748 3 года назад +17

    Thank you. I was in High School when The Lion was big. Always wondered about the inspiration and origin. Got the answer 60 years later. Feeling my age, body aches and pains, but never too old to learn.

  • @swatkins9391
    @swatkins9391 3 года назад +24

    "In the 1950s, after Linda's authorship was made clear, Seeger sent Linda $1000. Seeger also said he instructed TRO/Folkways to henceforth pay his share of authors' earnings to Linda. The folksinger apparently trusted his publisher's word of honor and either saw no need, or was unable to make sure these instructions were carried out". -Wikipedia

    • @alcyone9361
      @alcyone9361 2 года назад

      Shhhhhhhhh. You'll upset the snowflake whiners.

  • @rogerlewis7894
    @rogerlewis7894 3 года назад +64

    Fun fact: Mbube is the opening song to the 1988 movie "Coming To America" Most would Identify it as the intro to.... you guessed it... The Lion Sleeps Tonight.

    • @valoruniversity
      @valoruniversity 3 года назад +9

      right when i heard the song I thought of Coming To America

  • @toanogreen
    @toanogreen 2 года назад +3

    I don't know how this popped up in my search list, but I'm glad it did. It still bothers me how people steal from true artist and call it their own. And it is usually stolen from cultures (races) that are under represented and not compensated for their works.

  • @cricketbat09
    @cricketbat09 3 года назад +32

    The music/record industry is rife with such stories. Many songwriters got ripped off by big business.

  • @Ms.Tranquility
    @Ms.Tranquility 3 года назад +228

    This has been going on for centuries. “The first shall be last and the last shall be first.”

  • @Bong_Maggz
    @Bong_Maggz 3 года назад +54

    Am south African and the weird thing is I thought the lion sleeps tonight was written here. Cuz most of our music has this progression it just sound African 😊

    • @rimix739
      @rimix739 3 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/VA0ruoKAnHA/видео.html

  • @gearshifterg9756
    @gearshifterg9756 Год назад +8

    I did my own research on this song around 1996 or so when we had The Tokens as a guest in our radio studio. As we had them live and on air, I asked how the song came about. The answer was sort of a brush off so I learned about Solomon Linda and the original recording. Which lead me to a C.D. set of some popular music that had been recorded much earlier. Like Hanky Panky by The Rain Drops or California Sun by Joe Jones, or Rock Around the Clock by Sunny Dae & the Knights

    • @ricenglish4556
      @ricenglish4556 2 месяца назад

      Those are all White people in those groups. What is your point?

  • @kayallen9288
    @kayallen9288 3 года назад +238

    Thank you for being awesome in telling the true story behind this song. Not many people know the truth. Very very sad that the creators of this song never seen any royalties or credits for their song.

    • @joepasco1420
      @joepasco1420 3 года назад

      They are getting credit now.

    • @sheinagrant7936
      @sheinagrant7936 3 года назад +16

      @@joepasco1420 they are due not just credit but significant royalties should be given to their descendants just like the thieves who stole it, they used it to create wealth and opportunity for theirs. An the greatest thieves in the history of humanity are still doing it to this day. You nedd look no futher than TikTock.

    • @wanaraz
      @wanaraz 3 года назад +4

      @@sheinagrant7936 What an idiot. They were in South africa. This is America. Besides the songs did not sound anything alike. You are just a racist angry black person who's life has been a failure and need to blame it on another race.

    • @p.w.7493
      @p.w.7493 3 года назад +12

      @@wanaraz
      Really, don't you know that the enemy tries his best to steal what is another's and when he does, he makes SURE it's HARD to identify? However, the true OWNER KNOWS what was stolen and can IDENTIFY it.
      Didn't you just watch/listen to the video?
      It was STOLEN!!💯

    • @wanaraz
      @wanaraz 3 года назад +8

      @@p.w.7493 Nothing was stolen and there 1938 version did not sound like any one else's . The key was different, the rhythm was different the notes were different. STOLEN was a claim by somebody like you. People cry all the time for their failures.

  • @patrikhjorth3291
    @patrikhjorth3291 4 года назад +267

    Dude. "Mbube" isn't that difficult to pronounce, just _listen_ to what they are singing.

    • @ginathomas7813
      @ginathomas7813 4 года назад +6

      It is for the English 🙄

    • @FreshRose-z3s
      @FreshRose-z3s 4 года назад +32

      He was being condescending.

    • @ginathomas7813
      @ginathomas7813 4 года назад +21

      @@FreshRose-z3s and ignorant

    • @Virginia_Cayne
      @Virginia_Cayne 4 года назад +8

      Em-Bu-bay.

    • @Rosie6857
      @Rosie6857 4 года назад +2

      @@Virginia_Cayne That's a good deal closer than matey-boy got. But it's not necessary to stick an E at the beginning and simply wrong to put a vowel after the M.

  • @implive17
    @implive17 3 года назад +92

    As a South African this story breaks my heart. Mbube is such a beautiful song.

  • @bjarneberglund7485
    @bjarneberglund7485 2 года назад +4

    I was 13 years old when I heard "The Lion Sleeps Tonight" for the first time.
    It was with a group called The Hounds and that song has stayed with me through the years
    and still remain in my head with text and only good memories with positive experiences. Funny that it lives on with so many.

  • @lisaspikes4291
    @lisaspikes4291 3 года назад +90

    The Lion Sleeps Tonight has always been one of my favorite songs. It wasn’t until later in life that I learned that the song was of South African origin. I came to appreciate that style of a capella African music. I hope that whoever controls this type of thing can make amends and maybe get some monetary compensation for the original singers or their families.

    • @lamper2
      @lamper2 3 года назад +3

      I'm sure that will happen LOL

    • @mzzodiacc
      @mzzodiacc 2 года назад +4

      Host stated towards the end, that the family received a very small*🙄😒 compensation for the African song..

  • @markherron1407
    @markherron1407 4 года назад +29

    Give credit where's credit is due, give honor where's honor is due.The Linda family should receive royalties from that song.Blessing and hugs!

    • @markherron1407
      @markherron1407 4 года назад

      @Gazzara5 Who should get the royalties?

    • @TitoTimTravels
      @TitoTimTravels 4 года назад +1

      @Gazzara5 They still have the original rights to Mbube and Wimoweh, but not on Lion Sleeps. The copyright under British law was for the life of the composer, plus 50 years. The family did receive a settlement, and royalties - until the settlement expired in 2017.

  • @samsonsumba7875
    @samsonsumba7875 4 года назад +38

    Mbube is a phonetic word pronounced "emm-boo-weh"
    It is supposed to be performed when a prolific person (lion) has died (sleeps tonight) - Nairobi, Kenya

    • @norubmadala529
      @norubmadala529 3 года назад

      More like M-Boo-Bay for English speaker
      It's pronounceable if you can sing the Hanson's "Mbop"
      Or say "Jason Mraz's" name, Mnuchin
      Etc
      Say with with me
      MmmBoo-bay!

    • @jabjones2165
      @jabjones2165 3 года назад +2

      Nairobi Camera: Nice explanation, thank you.

    • @JRT5573
      @JRT5573 3 года назад

      In the original recording there were no words other that what was sung as the under-chant "Uyimbube," meaning "you are the lion." That is, if the wikipedia article is accurate.
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lion_Sleeps_Tonight#History
      The original recording does not even have the tune associated with "In the jungle, the mighty jungle..." until near the very end when Linda improvises it. In 1949, someone in the American music industry brought the original recording to the attention of Pete Seeger. Pete Seeger and Weavers recorded it, and later it was arranged for the Tokens. Seeger and the Weavers thought was a traditional Zulu song. When Seeger found out that the song had been written by Solomon Linda, he sent $1000 to Linda and ordered that his share of any royalties be sent to Linda.
      Here is a link to the original recording.
      ruclips.net/video/mrrQT4WkbNE/видео.html

  • @karllegrand
    @karllegrand 2 года назад +2

    Sometimes, the urge to sing "The Lion Sleeps Tonight" is just a whim away...a whim away...a whim away...a whim away...

  • @avesraggiana
    @avesraggiana 3 года назад +299

    “Shaka was called ‘The Black Napoleon.’ But I prefer to think of Napoleon as ‘The White Shaka’.” - Miriam Makeba.

    • @mr.stomatopoda
      @mr.stomatopoda 3 года назад +21

      Technically speaking, Shaka Zulu was born in 1787, and Napoleon was born in 1769, thus Napoleon would be the first to exist, therefore not making him a "Caucasian Shaka" . However, whilst this is the case, due to both existing around the same time, and never encountering each other, with doubts as to the two even knowing of the others existence, as well as them performing their incredible feats at around the same time, the only thing that is certain is that they were both legendary generals in their own right, both however loosing their kingdoms to those they trusted.

    • @omamajohnpaul4215
      @omamajohnpaul4215 3 года назад +11

      @@mr.stomatopoda But do you agree that the Israelites were and still are black people?

    • @arosefortes6507
      @arosefortes6507 3 года назад +1

      @@omamajohnpaul4215 😯 What!? I never thought of that. Though definitely not white lol. Any info on this?

    • @omamajohnpaul4215
      @omamajohnpaul4215 3 года назад +2

      @@arosefortes6507 Well, I have scriptural proof like Deuteronomy 28:68. SLAVESHIPS 🤔, sound familiar?

    • @seetheanimal5867
      @seetheanimal5867 3 года назад +1

      @@omamajohnpaul4215 depends on what ur projecting 👀 and u ain't said nothing more 🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @permogensen3964
    @permogensen3964 4 года назад +25

    A Danish singer by the name of Bamse (Bear), he had recorded a Danish version called Wimmersvej (Wimmers Street), and did not anything about this story till later. When he discovered it, he rerecorded it and all money went to the widow and family.

    • @decodesigns14
      @decodesigns14 3 года назад

      Stolen, are you serious..danish stole it.

    • @killerdillr
      @killerdillr 3 года назад +1

      @@decodesigns14 He made a Danish translation without knowing the history behind. He took The Tokens version a made his own from that. When he discovered the truth, he re-recorded it and gave all the money to the family. He is dead now. Look up Wimmersvej by Bamse :)

  • @jestnessj3574
    @jestnessj3574 3 года назад +213

    Just added to the growing list of things stolen. (Precious Metals, diamonds, people, heritage, language, freedom, history, choice, money, music,
    Innocence, lives, an entire continent)

    • @waltkraybill5129
      @waltkraybill5129 3 года назад +11

      MBube would have never been discovered if Pete Seeger, Bert Kaempfert and the Tokens had not improved on it. Sounds harsh, but true.

    • @lovelady753
      @lovelady753 3 года назад +9

      Truely an Entire continent.... we only pray God have mercy on what humans have done to humanity in their lust for greed.

    • @idresufts5849
      @idresufts5849 3 года назад +8

      @@waltkraybill5129 Improved on, merely is the a viewpoint that a song may mature over time. I'll take Cheap Tricks' Don't be Cruel over Elvis' version anytime, cause tha't my view. Your comment should have been a stand alone comment, not a reply to the above, as what was stated by Jestness IS TRUE.

    • @ryanpronorzelus1983
      @ryanpronorzelus1983 3 года назад +2

      @@waltkraybill5129 so what are you saying?

    • @jamesbrown6105
      @jamesbrown6105 3 года назад +4

      @@waltkraybill5129 how did they improve it?

  • @Laakona
    @Laakona 2 года назад +1

    Lions never sleep at night except in captivity. They always hunt at night.

  • @dionyates2482
    @dionyates2482 4 года назад +266

    1:26 Mbube is clearly pronounced 'mi-boo-beh' from the opening of the song - why bluster comically trying to pronounce it? Given that showing respect to the original is the point of this video, your constant mispronunciation looks insensitive and stupid.

    • @LEvans-vg7sp
      @LEvans-vg7sp 4 года назад +15

      Agreed. I was going to repost this but I'll find a better way to spread the knowledge.

    • @kevinmcmahon2491
      @kevinmcmahon2491 4 года назад +24

      I agree. His effected mispronunciation was stupid. The content of his video was fine so why not just communicate it and skip the infantile stuff.

    • @ryaen9828
      @ryaen9828 4 года назад +3

      Yes agreee!

    • @jeffschrade4779
      @jeffschrade4779 4 года назад +3

      You must be fun at parties... "Let's not have any humor, by jove. Stiff upper lip and all that you know." Bah.... In the words of Sgt. Hulka, "Lighten up!" ruclips.net/video/iN-aXzpQUdw/видео.html

    • @dionyates2482
      @dionyates2482 4 года назад +7

      @@jeffschrade4779 I'm a hoot, bitch. Now piss off and don't interrupt my 80s MTV fest again.

  • @susankolberg963
    @susankolberg963 3 года назад +232

    I too have always loved this song. It's such a joy to listen to. I'm grateful for the original song writer and singers in South Africa who first recorded it. And I'm grateful for The Tokens for bringing it to the world. And yes, those who created it first deserved more credit and money. It's disappointing that they didn't get the wealth.

    • @leonardguillory2511
      @leonardguillory2511 2 года назад +8

      Girl! That was the way All Artists we're done back then! When you don't have Any Idea I am of your worth, you'll settle for Anythang!! Like All those Blues songs that made Icons out of Common Rock names! Hell, "The Rolling Stones" literally named themselves after a Muddy tune!🤔

    • @markjapan4062
      @markjapan4062 2 года назад +6

      AT THE TIME 1000 BUCKS WAS ALOT.....LIKE 75.000 TODAY SO IT WAS A GOOD PAYOUT

    • @sirsilva7079
      @sirsilva7079 Год назад +1

      Simple exploitation and appropriation, South African artists lost a lot even Paul Simon did this to MD Shirinda

    • @dis7817
      @dis7817 Год назад +2

      @@leonardguillory2511 Songwriters and musicians still get ripped off today by greedy publishers.

    • @dis7817
      @dis7817 Год назад +6

      @@sirsilva7079 Appropriation is a silly term, it's not like only one group in the world can sing a certain song or even wear certain clothes. People who feel "appropriated" should look at it as a compliment others like your style or your music or whatever is "appropriated" including food. I'm tired of hearing people whine about braided hairstyles or some white person wearing a kimono or cooking a cajun dish. And it seems to only be white people who appropriate right? Well, blacks can stop dying their hair blond and wearing it straight, nobody should wear baseball caps or blue jeans. It's just so childish.

  • @jamesmayden2155
    @jamesmayden2155 4 года назад +108

    Pull yourselves up by your bootstraps they say...we'll just take your boots when you're done!

  • @ghw7192
    @ghw7192 Год назад

    In mid December, 2022, I was in a nursing home recovering from an accident and at 6:30AM, one of the CNA's was walking down the hall singing "The Lion Sleeps Tonight"! I loved it!

  • @mistermyself1128
    @mistermyself1128 3 года назад +215

    Their name is "The Tokens". That cant be any funnier. How prophetic.

    • @tyriecemcnary3717
      @tyriecemcnary3717 3 года назад +4

      Yes I was thinking why are they called the tokens

    • @LarryMan51
      @LarryMan51 3 года назад

      Yeah, I always get a little chuckle out of that.

    • @BigSp3nda
      @BigSp3nda 3 года назад +1

      Dats fuked up

    • @mangot589
      @mangot589 3 года назад +1

      They were named after tokens? They still use them some places.

    • @mistermyself1128
      @mistermyself1128 3 года назад

      @@mangot589 Its not about the use of coins.

  • @REALkristinnefertiti
    @REALkristinnefertiti 4 года назад +169

    Yeah... Im def going to have an attitude EVERY time I hear the American version... I WILL tell this story.

    • @tomlund4951
      @tomlund4951 4 года назад +4

      They did a nice job I always loved it... to find out where it was first created makes it cooler!

    • @organfuneralcovers
      @organfuneralcovers 3 года назад +5

      Youre gay

    • @scottmiller8493
      @scottmiller8493 3 года назад +2

      You might want to have an attitude with most other artists since they steal rifts, bars, music transitions from all other artists too

    • @dmendez4741
      @dmendez4741 3 года назад +2

      Look at you and your liberal white outrage on other's behalf, God you ppl and your faux outrage, virtue signaling, white savior complexes are pathetic, annoying, patronizing, and racist

  • @flakoczecho9477
    @flakoczecho9477 4 года назад +98

    "Disney settles Lion King song lawsuit
    Relatives of the original composer of The Lion Sleeps Tonight have dropped a lawsuit against Disney after settling for an undisclosed sum of money with a US music publishing house, their lawyer said."

    • @fairly_odd_couple6239
      @fairly_odd_couple6239 4 года назад +23

      Good they should be sued!! Tired of hearing other people making millions off someone else's songs!!

    • @ceeleewal1257
      @ceeleewal1257 4 года назад +8

      @@fairly_odd_couple6239 Are you tired of Disney making money off of somebody else's songs...or them not compensating original artists for using it? (Choose your words. That comment just sounded vindictive. A great deal of popular songs of the last 25 years or so belonged to someone else before they were hits known worldwide.)

    • @fairly_odd_couple6239
      @fairly_odd_couple6239 4 года назад +10

      @@ceeleewal1257
      I think the words are "copyright infringement"!!

    • @sweetsavage8827
      @sweetsavage8827 4 года назад +5

      The original sounds much better

    • @sweetsavage8827
      @sweetsavage8827 4 года назад +6

      Sick to my stomach hearing non color singing this song

  • @jameswhite1910
    @jameswhite1910 Год назад +7

    Having worked in the music industry, it is important to understand that this is just how it works: one guy cannot make a success so someone else tries, they fail and someone else tries and WOW!! A HIT! Now that hit, in 1961, was heavily promoted at extreme cost to make it a hit.
    Regarding the "original writer", I suspect that if a Judge determined it to be public domain "folk" then the "original" writer maybe was not the actual original(?). Kind of like me recording "Twinkle Twinkle Little Star".
    That said though, it is pretty low-class of the band to not properly credit and then share (voluntarily, even) with the band that recorded first and got their attention.

    • @scootermom1791
      @scootermom1791 Год назад +1

      So the music industry can ignore copyright laws; steal someone else's music from them; and make a lot of money from it? That's what happened to Nik Kershaw. He sang "Wouldn't it be Good" before 3 Dog Night's Danny Hutton did for the Pretty in Pink soundtrack. According to an interview with Nik Kershaw I'd watched, producers never asked him for permission to use the song in the movie and didn't ask if they could have 3 Dog Night cover the song. They never even compensated him for it. Why are there copyright laws if they're never enforced? (At least not for the rich and powerful people in Hollywood!)

    • @makteko
      @makteko Год назад +1

      An American judge who knows nothing about the song and calling it a folklore is the issue to begin with. The original writer created the song, it was never a folklore to begin with. Just a twisted American system, that's all. Also the song was not a fail, it did well in South Africa. It just never made it to the American audience since we are talking about the 1930s and 40s when the internet and social media was not around.

  • @smangelemngadi4668
    @smangelemngadi4668 5 лет назад +175

    This makes me so sad! The descendeds have nothing to show for their fathers talent.

    • @TheJanster100
      @TheJanster100 4 года назад +12

      And this theme is repeated, way too often... too sad...

    • @nl396
      @nl396 4 года назад +1

      That's life

    • @yankee2666
      @yankee2666 4 года назад +2

      Stupid comment.

    • @vetb882
      @vetb882 3 года назад +2

      No, now they have millions once the deceivers were exposed.

    • @smangelemngadi4668
      @smangelemngadi4668 3 года назад +1

      I'm happy to hear that last I checked it wasn't so. I will do some research on that!

  • @hellokimmy9689
    @hellokimmy9689 3 года назад +57

    Unfortunately, this has always been business as usual in the music industry. 🤷🏾‍♀️

    • @jamesakili5009
      @jamesakili5009 3 года назад +6

      Whites will always take credit for things they never invented just copying and reconstructing!

    • @TruthArrows
      @TruthArrows 3 года назад +1

      We must Not accept the unacceptable.

    • @ameriqueindienindigene9096
      @ameriqueindienindigene9096 3 года назад +1

      "Unfortunately, this has always been business as usual in the music industry." That's not entirely try. This only happens on my continent.

  • @colbrew9762
    @colbrew9762 4 года назад +91

    Solomon Lina's version is the original intro to "Coming to America"...

    • @DefinitelyOwen
      @DefinitelyOwen  4 года назад +7

      That’s cool! I didn’t know that

    • @SAM_163
      @SAM_163 4 года назад +8

      Eddy Murphy made me love the song & this man makes me understand the song🙏🙏🙏

    • @ummeiguess
      @ummeiguess 4 года назад +3

      interesting I never noticed that lol
      but probably bcz I've been listening to that version, and the version by Ladysmith Black Mambazo my whole life lol
      I didn't even think of The Token's version lol
      (why is that group name so much more apt after knowing what they did to Linda and his family?)

    • @brabbelbeest
      @brabbelbeest 4 года назад +1

      I just wanted to make this comment too, but saw somebody already shared this! awesome!

    • @justme8201
      @justme8201 4 года назад +1

      That is exactly...what I heard! Wait this sounds very familiar, at the opening of the movie.

  • @jorydillard3766
    @jorydillard3766 Год назад +7

    I remember this being my favorite song when I was a kid… beautiful work to Solomon and his fellow musicians!

    • @scootermom1791
      @scootermom1791 Год назад

      Still one of my favorites! Especially after watching "The Ghost and the Darkness," several years ago. Idk what the original song's lyrics meant, but singing that there's nothing to worry about because the lion sleeps tonight had to be very comforting to a child.

  • @martins_alternate_universe6783
    @martins_alternate_universe6783 3 года назад +27

    This was unusually fun, because I actually learned more from reading the comments of people who really do know more about the history and significance of the song, than was featured in the video. I mean, the video was fine, but some of the comments were more enriching.

  • @dedrickmuhammad2732
    @dedrickmuhammad2732 4 года назад +50

    The South African song was used in Coming To America.

    • @hhhkf
      @hhhkf 3 года назад +2

      Did they pay royalties to the Zulus?

    • @spyingonyallteacup2744
      @spyingonyallteacup2744 3 года назад +1

      No you know they forever stealing shit & pasting it off as if they are the Originals and there not

  • @gavinspowart
    @gavinspowart 4 года назад +91

    "Wimoweh", or "The Lion Sleeps Tonight" is a song originally written and recorded by Solomon Linda, under the title "Mbube" ( The Lion, a reference to Sulu king, Shaka) recorded by the South African Gallo Record Company in 1939. Linda's original was written in Zulu, while the English version's lyrics were written by George David Weiss.
    Weiss made two mistakes:
    1. Lions do not sleep at night, they hunt at night
    2. Lions do not live in "the jungle", they live in the African savannah, and semi-desert areas.

    • @RosettaTarry-nr4gb
      @RosettaTarry-nr4gb 4 года назад +2

      Mountain lions do Exist, But Still, That Is True!

    • @rubenaalexander5007
      @rubenaalexander5007 4 года назад

      @@RosettaTarry-nr4gb They aren't really lions. They are more like pumas. I think I heard of lions in India that went extinct that MAY have lived in the jungle but that doesn't really represent most lions.

    • @wesleycook7687
      @wesleycook7687 4 года назад +7

      @Psilocybe Vibe If misunderstood, sorry, but my point is the Tokens simply recorded a song their record company pushed. They probably had no idea of the origins of the song.

    • @morel1076
      @morel1076 4 года назад

      Me a reddit user: Its A Joke XD

    • @mehermusic2154
      @mehermusic2154 4 года назад

      Z-z-z-z-z-z-z

  • @comicsgod53
    @comicsgod53 8 месяцев назад +2

    The guy who co wrote Happy Together said it was so bad he didn't want credit and The Turtles turned it into a mega hit and he missed out on maybe millions in royalties. Murray Wilson sold off the Beach Boys catalog for a song and screwed them out of millions and the list goes on and on...

  • @nave37
    @nave37 3 года назад +82

    damn shame we can't have shit they know they owe that man more money than that $1,000 and it was the song in Coming to America like stated below

    • @melissagreene4174
      @melissagreene4174 3 года назад +4

      The Coming to America version was the original!

    • @kennetheisenberg7197
      @kennetheisenberg7197 3 года назад

      Pete Seeger, the left's commie sweetheart of his time, hippocrit hippocrit hippocrat!

    • @Toast_the_Toaster617
      @Toast_the_Toaster617 3 года назад

      @@kennetheisenberg7197 Lol, the only reason Solomon Linda got any money is because of Pete Seeger personal efforts to reimburse him. Also, it's spelled "hypocrite"

  • @theeHeisenberg
    @theeHeisenberg 3 года назад +8

    I love the original, it was shown to me a world music class and I pull it out once in a while. It's far better than any other version

  • @cmapp1969
    @cmapp1969 4 года назад +46

    Yes, the Lion of Judah, but they are waking up, this is a new age.

    • @tanarich5515
      @tanarich5515 4 года назад +1

      APTTMH. Aman.

    • @leelarson107
      @leelarson107 3 года назад

      What a crock. Boom-tiddy-boom-tiddy-boom. Noise from savages.

    • @sweatcloud3533
      @sweatcloud3533 3 года назад +2

      Amen. But the lion of tribe of Judah is Alive! Jesus Christ our lord is coming back soon, our simba will return!! The word will be shocked, we must repent, pray, fast, and focus on the kingdom of heaven. God bless you all!

    • @judahisrael9277
      @judahisrael9277 3 года назад +1

      I love seeing our people wake up, all praises to the most high

    • @nnayahagadite3859
      @nnayahagadite3859 3 года назад +1

      SHOUT OUT TO JUDAH, WE LOVE YOU!!!!!!

  • @elmienscott5399
    @elmienscott5399 Месяц назад

    Thank you for exposing this incredible injustice. I am South African and I grew up listening to this song...

  • @QB42477
    @QB42477 3 года назад +13

    I I always loved hearing it at the beginning of "Coming To America ".... Sounded majestic and regal, the way it was sung... it's a shame how these people were exploited.

  • @davidthedeaf
    @davidthedeaf 4 года назад +10

    Well I memorized The Lion Sleeps Tonight, so looks like I need to learn the South African song now! :)

  • @flh5959
    @flh5959 3 года назад +2

    Guess it's like what happens between lions and other predators, another come and steal your feast.

  • @ant-1382
    @ant-1382 3 года назад +30

    Traditionally African song. Covered by Miriam Mekeba, and later covered by the Tokens, then again by the Nylons. One of those timeless songs!!

  • @mikehazelwood6106
    @mikehazelwood6106 3 года назад +29

    I remember that song well, hearing on the radio as a child! My aunt even had it original 45 rpm. I knew from the sound and the lyrics, that it had African origins, as so much of American music does! Thanks for the history lesson, it was interesting!
    By the way, it's: "eM - bu - bae"

    • @fabulousfarrahinsouthafrica
      @fabulousfarrahinsouthafrica 2 года назад

      Who .....black Americans music is what we created so on that note you shut the fuc up!

    • @lindzimcolzwane6761
      @lindzimcolzwane6761 2 года назад +1

      When pronounced correctly we say there is.no Vowel e

    • @lindzimcolzwane6761
      @lindzimcolzwane6761 2 года назад

      The vowel e should be silent .Let's take the

    • @lindzimcolzwane6761
      @lindzimcolzwane6761 2 года назад +1

      There is no vowel at the beginning. Mbube as in the English word " remember. ie. Reme -Mbere.
      Therefore " Mbu" should sound as "Mbere".

  • @KSynBlaze
    @KSynBlaze 3 года назад +15

    "The Lion Sleep" referred to the death of a LEADER.
    The same GRAND THEFT occured to the song "FOREVER YOUNG."
    It was a South African hymn or anthem sung for children who were departing their homes, transitioning into ADULTHOOD.

    • @tamekagriffin-ferebee9905
      @tamekagriffin-ferebee9905 2 года назад +3

      so true! this sounds very close to Rod Stewart's version of "Forever Young"--ruclips.net/video/hgh_XvkeQgI/видео.html
      I was very surprised that many haven't followed in the footsteps of Marvin Gaye's estates lawsuit against Robin Thicke's Blurred Lines

    • @KSynBlaze
      @KSynBlaze 2 года назад +1

      @@tamekagriffin-ferebee9905 Once the song has been STOLEN successfully.
      The TALONS from all the other artistes goes on display, full throttled.

  • @nicolaiitchenko7610
    @nicolaiitchenko7610 3 года назад +1

    Breaking out and bursting into song with this song is only a whim away. LOL

  • @antday
    @antday 3 года назад +30

    Mmmboobeh , dude, it's really not that hard.
    Hope you learned to pronounce it.
    Zulu is a wonderfully onomatopoeiac and expressive language and well worth learning.

    • @nukhtube3752
      @nukhtube3752 3 года назад +1

      He thought it was funny to miss pronounce the name.

  • @Natasha___.
    @Natasha___. 3 года назад +5

    The well known version sounds better than the old version

    • @jsdiary419
      @jsdiary419 2 года назад +1

      -Christopher Columbus

  • @humbertogatica6420
    @humbertogatica6420 3 года назад +6

    Thank you for telling the story of how the authors were cheated out. Sad story

  • @themrsluggo
    @themrsluggo 3 года назад +1

    The individual who provided the spark (idea) isn't necessarily entitled to the revenue stream for the finished product.

  • @Tascountrygirl
    @Tascountrygirl 3 года назад +12

    I always felt that that the 'white' version of this beautiful song was somehow very inauthentic. Glad to hear the original song and know about it.

    • @cooldaddy2877
      @cooldaddy2877 3 года назад

      Why do you have to mention 'white'. Are you trying to make this a race issue? Did blacks never steal from blacks? And if so....is that alright?

  • @allenkracalik7662
    @allenkracalik7662 3 года назад +20

    Unfortunately, this story is all too typical of the music business and the entertainment media in general. Just to cite one glaring example, Little Richard signed away the publishing rights to his songs in order to secure a recording contract. How many millions do you suppose Long Tall Sally has garnered somebody over the years?

    • @KSynBlaze
      @KSynBlaze 3 года назад +2

      Allen Kracalik: -- Little Richard signing is/was old fashioned EXTORTION.

  • @16davelle
    @16davelle 4 года назад +5

    Thanks for the knowledge. I love learning about the story behind any song so for this reason i subscribed so keep up the good work and keep em coming

  • @debbiegarner870
    @debbiegarner870 8 месяцев назад +8

    Very sad about the origin of it and the lack of respect to the original artists. The ones who stole it should be ashamed of themselves. still one of my all time favorites of all songs.

    • @user-yg1dg6xm2g
      @user-yg1dg6xm2g 3 месяца назад

      But they improved the song in every way. If they had released "Mbube" in America as it was and just changed the lyrics, it would have been a complete flop, so the creators lost nothing.

    • @HeliodromusScorpio
      @HeliodromusScorpio 10 часов назад

      And yet you never listen to the original

  • @yellowhill5785
    @yellowhill5785 3 года назад +9

    If they never paid for slavery its not a song they going to pay for.🔥🔥💣

  • @marydonohoe8200
    @marydonohoe8200 3 года назад +10

    There’s more to this story, as I was taught by my Zimbabwean marimba teachers. (Mbube would be closely pronounced “eem-boo-beh.”)
    This song is code for the colonial practice of abducting indigenous men from the villages of rural South Africa and Rhodesia ( now Zimbabwe) at night, in order to force them to work in the mines. The “lion” refers to the white abductors. If the lion sleeps, he is not lurking about, waiting to strike, and it is safe to leave the home.
    Needless to say, we still have a long way to go in our trek toward justice.

  • @shirleyroberts1240
    @shirleyroberts1240 2 года назад +4

    Thank you for sharing and having the courage to bring it to fruition, GOD BLESS!!!

  • @d.deckert6634
    @d.deckert6634 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for the original, folks looking for it. Luv u. xoxo