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That's about how it was. I served 20 years in the Marine Corp and two combat tours in Vietnam. The first tour as a machine gunner (0331) in 1965-66 and the second as a Platoon commander (0369) in 1970-71. I retired after 20 years and had a 30 year career as a California police officer ( Marin County). What I learned in the Marine Corps has helped me all my life. I highly recommend it to anyone needing direction and wishing to learn self discipline . Tom Boyte GySgt. USMC, retired Bronze Star, Purple Heart
Thank you for all your sacrifice. I was privileged to escort a group of WW2 Marine Corps Vets to Iwo Jima for the 60th anniversary, It was the greatest event in my life. Standing on the black sands, looking up at Mount Suribachi with William "Bangs" Tosline and Jack Lucas was a true honor. I actually met R. Lee Ermey on that trip. I dont think the people watching this video understand the purpose of the Drill Sargent and what they are preparing these young men for, they were hard for a reason. Again, thank you for all you have done for this country and its citizens, both during your time in the Corps and your time after as a Police Officer. It is people like you that make me proud to be American!
Work hard in school next 7. Keep your options open. I did 8 in the AF. Make a plan to enter one of the academies. Personally, go FALCONS!!@Urge-To-Burn
My Father was a Marine in the late 50's and early 60's. He said the scenes in this movie were the most accurate he ever saw portrayed by Hollywood of what boot camp was like.
His top rank on active duty was Staff Sergeant. After he played Gunny Hartman the gave him an honorary promotion to Gunnery Sergeant. Jon A. - Sgt USMC 1981-89
None of it’s funny when you’ve been there. But you wouldn’t trade it for the world. In the end, you become a part of a brotherhood, a proud history and literally an envied cult. We are the proud and as Gunny Hartman says in Full Metal Jacket, “Today, you people are no longer maggots. Today, you are Marines. You're part of a brotherhood. From now on until the day you die, wherever you are, every Marine is your brother. Marines die. That's what we're here for. But the Marine Corps lives forever. And that means YOU live forever.” I’m 60 and here to tell you… it’s fact. Semper Fi to all my brothers out there.
@@tritontransport first phase absolutely. The dynamic between drill instructor and recruit interaction in the following two phases however is equally appropriate. In first phase you hate your drill instructor. In third phase, you’d die for him.
The movie literally shows this. It's primarily an anti-war film. But it also seems to get why this kind of harsh training was necessary back then. There's a scene where the character called Joker is asked if he believes in the Virgin Mary, and he says he doesn't believe in her. And Hartman starts to lay into him to get him to change his mind, but he sticks to his ideals, and this impresses the Drill Instructor. He knew they were going into a place where at least half of them likely wouldn't be coming back and torture was a thing that could happen and was trying to prepare them for it as much as possible. It's not the soldiers the movie is against. It's the concept of warfare itself and the dehumanizing factor of what goes into it from training to the battlefield.
Hooah, Army 12b ft leonard wood 2017 BCT my platoons DS were Rangers and Sappers, it was not a cake walk, it was not comfortable, but neither is the reality of war, low crawling on freshly waxed floors because someone’s shoe laces were right over left and not left over right was just the tip of the discipline iceberg
After joining the army in '01 I understood only after being deployed during O.I.F. that the air force was infact the way to go. I love gunny, but marines? Lmao. Dont get me started. Lowest IQ easily among armed forces. And no one goes in on foot anymore like marines used too. Wars are won by air, simple. Infantry is outdated, just like marines. Talk about sheep 😂😂😂
From the first moment you get off the bus, regardless of which branch you are in, the job of the Drill Sergeant/Drill Instructor is to make you learn and do it quickly while under stress. There is nothing more stressful than getting yelled at by a group of intimidating, hard-ass professionals in a situation you don't understand. The drill sergeants have to be the ones that you fear because they are the ones you will see every moment of every day and they must command your immediate obedience and fear in everything they ask. If they don't, then you will find yourself in a life and death situation and either freeze or think you know better than someone that has years more experience. That's the kind of stuff that gets people killed.
I think the intention was to create an interesting character, so that the bathroom scene took you by surprise and hit hard. If you think about it, the only two developed characters in the training part of the film were Hartman and Pyle. In war films, those two should have had plot armor. They did not.
@@Ocrilat When it comes to normal movies, I would definitely agree. But war films typically eliminate plot armor. The more focus characters get in these kinds of movies, the more likely at least one of them is to not make it. The shocking part of it is how it happens, not the fact that it happens.
@@SBaby Can you name any other war film where all the developed characters die by the end of the first act, let alone all dying during training? Not one developed main character...all of them.
@Ocrilat the intention was to show how awful war (some of that also being how bad military can be) and in general was an anti war (with a little anti military sprinkled in despite people I guarantee will say no it wasn't anti military) Kubrick was not a fan of war or military and wanted show the brutal reality of both. Only problem is this movie had the opposite effect and all branches (especially the marines) saw a massive boost in recruitment after this movie was released. The intention wasn't to make an interesting character or a villain etc it was to show that this sucks and in the end it sucks.
@@rollingfinn2044 Lol you didn't know this was based on a book I guess. A book written by a U.S. Marine that served during the Tet Offensive (Gustav Hasford - The Short Timers). Kubrick set out to make a film about Vietnam that was as honest and realistic as he could make it, from the perspective of a typical American soldier. It seems like you think if a movie isn't over-the-top pro-war then it's anti-war. Most people see the pro- or anti- thing as extremes, not as the only two choices.
R. Lee Ermey was hired on to the movie as a military consultant. He was supposed to work with the actor they hired to play Gunnery Hartman. The producers and director asked Ermey to give an example of how a Marine Drill Instructor. Ermey went off on a DI expletive filled tirade, dressing down the actor recruits, and scared the 💩 out of everyone. They fired the actor, and immediately hired Ermey for the role.
You learn in the documentary about making Full Metal Jacket, that Gunny had ZERO scripted lines. This ENTIRE Bootcamp part was off the cuff. He was a DI in Vietnam, He was kust doing what He used to do.
RIP to the Goat... we'll always miss you Gunny 🤘... fun fact if you've never seen this gem, Ermey improvised this entire monologue after he was given the role from the original person who he felt couldn't be convincing enough... none of his lines are scripted
Yep, and I believe that the characters didn't have names until Ermey gave them in this scene. Or it could also be that Ermey was told who's nickname was whose and he took it from there
@@crazyman7671 I think it may have been he came up with his own changing them. But I'm not entirely sure, they also kept him and the recruit actors separate during shooting. So they would be more afraid of him, they didn't even know he was going to be the DI until day 1 of shooting.
My dad was a world war two and Korean war Army combat vet, by the time we were in Vietnam he was stateside and an Army D.I. sgt. Like this marine DI, they do this to new recruits in those days to break down all of the teaching their parents and teachers taught them, then they remake them into soldiers or marines.
No, this is not dark comedy, this is how it was in the military. I was never hit nor did I see anyone get hit but we were talked to like this all the time. You learn real quick that words don't hurt... something we're missing in todays world.
After about day 3 or 4 you start to think they’re derogatory words are funny and then the hardest part is refraining from busting out laughing and maintains your military bearing so you don’t get smoked 🤣 😂
I was USAF. My TI (training instructor) was doing an inspection where they look in your open locker drawers to ensure everything is properly folded and squared, and he saw a pic of my dad in Florida after a fishing trip. He picked up the photo, and he yelled at me if I knew what kind of fish it was. I answered, sir,no sir. He answered back with, "You mean to me you don't know what kind of fish this is?" Again, I answered, Sir, no, sir. This went on about 2 or 3 times. Then he yelled back, "I tell you what kind of fish this is. It's a big fucking fish!" I answered back, sir, yes, sir. As he walked away, it took everything I had not to laugh.
I was in the Canadian Armed Forces from 81-94. After I got a job issuing parking tickets, with a bunch of other veterans. We had been doing that job for years, when the company we worked for lost the contract to a security guard company. The city thought they would save some money, but lost a lot of money as the deputized security guards would quit an hour into their first shift from the abuse they would take. The supervisor was a guy with 2 weeks experience who quit after he got paid. They just couldn’t hack being yelled at.
I was in Marine Boot camp at that time. What you see recreated here is very accurate. We were hit and did knuckle push-ups on gravelly old asphalt. Yes it was an experience but nothing compared to Vietnam.
They’re breaking your individuality to make you part of the team. To follow orders under tremendous stress. Every veteran watches this with a smile on our face
R. Lee Emery is a national treasure. This is exactly how basic training is for the Devil Dogs of the Navy and combat arms branch of the Army. Drill sergeants have the most important job in the military, they turn PoS useless civilians into something actually useable to the nation.
As a Desert Storm Marine vet, it amazes me how civilians can’t see how we operate from boot camp to combat. Go find your safe space that the military created
@carlrs15 I'm not sure that means what you think it does. Shouldn't training be harder than the real thing? Would it be better if more people died in combat? This is the military, there is no room for anything that doesn't make you more lethal.
Gomer Pyle was a TV character from the 60's a simple minded mechanic from North Carolina who joins the marines and keeps messing up. Just for anyone else who ever wondered like the guy in the video.
Did basic at Benning in '81. My DI was 2 tour tunnel rat in Nam rounding out his 20. For the next 12 weeks he kicked our ass. Had no problem nocking the shit out of us. I turned 18 at AIT two weeks before jump school. I believe to this day those 20 weeks prepared me for the rest of my life.
@@boomer-x-trooper82 Yeah, I was there in the middle of summer. I remember being so hot and tired all the time. They had some classes with big loud fans. All the drill instructors would be outside shooting the shit. But if you blinked, there would be one standing on the table in front of you, yelling and telling you to get outside and do pushups. 😂
I know people who served in the Marines back then and more recently and when they saw this for the first time, they all reacted like I did and laughed their butts off during this sequence. Ermey improvised all his dialogue in this sequence.
I took Basic Training, at Ft. Polk, Louisianna, Oct-Dec, 1973. Thanksgiving weekend this kid in our company went AWOL. They arrested him at the bus station in Leesville. La. and brought him back. At 3 am we were called out of our bunks and assembled on the parade ground. The AWOL kid was paraded in front of us in his underwear (30 degree weather), then tied with hands and feet around a telephone pole. We stood at attention for a half hour and listened to him beg to be let go. Then, he went to the brig, No one else in our company went AWOL.
Understand that those of us who made it through this benefited from it. And those who could not hack it had to be weeded out before they got people killed. Btw it's not any kind of comedy. It's drama. Real history.
I'm always amazed at how accurate the boot camp scenes are. As of Dec 1977 this was nearly exactly (they weren't allowed to hit us then) the barracks, bunks, uniforms, dialogue. All realistic enough to be taken from actual footage
Same routine the military has been using for ages, and it is effective. Likewise when I went through initial training they weren't allowed to hit us but everything else brings back memories, which I can laugh at now of course.
military drill instructors are always purposefully harsh, loud, and relentless - even brutal at times - in order to create a high-pressure, high-stress environment that will prepare raw recruits for the unforgiving reality of the battlefield. If these young men cannot stand up to the stress of military training, they will not survive in combat, the ultimate high-stress situation, with life and death on the line. And if Leonard had had his breakdown in a combat situation, the outcome could have been much worse for all of his comrades… (PT stands for “physical training” - a regimen of rigorous physical exercise designed to get the recruits into tiptop condition so that they can better withstand the hardship and demands of combat.)
True, but it didn't take us long to realize it was all an act when I was a trainee during initial training. We knew the drill sergeants were just doing their job, they weren't actually sadists. The pain was real enough though.
If you cannot survive training, you will not survive combat. Once I heard a Navy officer say something that an Air Force sergeant corroborated. The most important thing to learn in training, and if you learn nothing else, is to make good decisions in highly stressful environments.
Agreed. There is one scene points that out. They are running through a shallow pond. Gomer Pyle is in front. He trips and everyone behind him trips due to his mistake. Then, the entire squad is helping him up which slows them down. A chain is only as strong as it's weakest link.
No, this movie is no dark comedy. This scene early in movie is the last laughters to have. The tragedy of human frailty & horrors of war are the themes of this incredible movie.
I graduated U.S. Marine boot camp, Parris Island, in 1973. We experienced 100% all that these guys did but this movie only shows half of the degrading stuff that we had to experience in recruit training over 12 weeks. No lie.
Gulf War Marine Vet 86-91. It was fascinating how many ways they could come up with to hurt us on the Island! And that was always their worst threat: "You're never getting off MY island!" As time passed, you became stronger, fitter, more unstoppable. So they simply made things hurt longer. No matter how far we could get ahead, they'd help us find that line. You learned to get real comfortable with pain and stress. Helped me survive some truly heinous shit over the years. Just fall back on the training.
@thekenjensen Exactly. After I got out i was assistant director of security for a college in New England. The Dean, one day, called for a staff meeting and chewed us out (a civilian ass chewing). I was amazed of how my civilian peers were reacting to his words i.e. bordering on tears, sadness, fear, etc. Me? Just another beautiful day in New England.
The best 10 minutes of cinema ever created. The reactors don’t understand what it was like back in the day. They broke all individuals down so they would operate as a unit.
It's fascinating to see the reactions from people not from the U.S. that didn't know or understand that this was literally how it was during the Vietnam War, in boot camp. (It's a lot tamer now in choices of words, but still as stress inducing).
"Unorganized grabastic pieces of amphibian shit." One of the best lines in movie history. Since Lee Ermy ad libbed most of these scenes that was probably from him.
This movie brings back soooo many memories. It was released about the same time I graduated BootCamp. Graduation night several of us got together hit Red Lobster for dinner then to the theater to watch this movie. We couldn’t believe just how much we could relate, even though the movie was set during Vietnam and it was now 1987.
Marines totally understand it. Heheheh. Now we laugh at it. Our DIs are tough and we all went through it. But having a DI prepare us from the get go for war is necessary to separate the wheat from the chaff. Semper Fi. Gunny, 79-99
When ur all SUFFERING TOGETHER-its not totally hellish. It's brutally hardcore don't get me wrong. But once u make it your family. And years after you leave marines are still your family. A stranger at the 🍸 your brother or sister. The thing I didn't like until recently is when people would respond with no I never served but my dad did. And I would have to listen about how their dad was better than me in every way ever. But dang now that I'm a father I reflect on those moments and smile knowing my children long after I'm dead and gone will still tell tales of my trophy room, my uniform and about the kind of BadAss I was. Semper Fi.
The best parts of this whole video were the pure soft ass civilian reactions. The Vietnam era Boot Camp/Basic Training for Marines and Army were way different than what I went through in 1996 (Ft. Leopardwood 12B Combat Engineer Basic and AIT) even. The US Army had taken a "hands off" meaning no physical violence direction of training. We got yelled and cussed at all the time, and had shark attacks. The primary form of punishment was being smoked. Embarrassment, was a whole unit thing like having our Guide On replaced with a plunger on a stick with a toilet paper streamer. Our whole platoon got evicted one day for someone not emptying the trashcans.
Now if im not mistaken, Gunnery Sergeant Ermey wasnt an actor at first. After serving 11 years as a marine, he was only hired as a technical advisor for apocalypse now and one other war film.
He also wasn't the original actor for this role. He was given the part after they realized the other guy couldn't give the needed performance. He legit scared many of the actors with his performance. Most of this scene is 100% ad lib by him.
So the movie is set in 1968-69, but a lot of the things shown during basic training were not too different from when I went through in 1988. Our drill instructors were almost as intense but didn't hit us as much. Training was actually pretty similar. RIP Gy Ermey. Semper Fi.
You young'uns just don't know who Gunny is (was)... he passed 2018. The most hard-core gunnery sergeant (Basic Training Sarge) the Marine corps has ever known. He is still a legend. Known for his incredible ability to take little pieces of shit and turn them into Marines. Not an easy job. But he was the best. He played himself in the movies (he did NOT act). You watch the Full Metal Jacket scenes... that was Gunny Ermey. He didn't take no shit from nobody, and he only gave you the shit you deserved, and needed. And maybe a teaspoon more just for Mary Poppins.
I can honestly day i was blessed with the oppurtunity to meet MSgt Emery through the USO. Two things struck me, 1) he had a melon that was bigger than a damn football and 2) he was one of the NICEST people I have ever met. Sir RIP sir
I’ve seen MSgt Ermey in other shows after this movie and was struck by how “normal” and downright-pleasant he appeared. Years ago, I met this boiler operator (George) through my job…literally 1 of the coolest people I ever met. Genuine, involved, tuned-in…just a solid dude. I was shocked to discover he was a retired Marine Corps drill sergeant! Wouldn’t have guessed it in a million years. A special breed of human. RIP, to both of them.
The old Marine Corps training was like this. During the Vietnam war and before. I am not sure how the Marines train recently so I can't speak for the present
Gomer Pyle USMC was a sitcom in the 1960s staring Jim Nabors as Gomer, a sweet simple hick from North Carolina, who’s shenanigans drove his drill instructor sergeant Carter crazy. It was a spinoff of the Andy Griffith show.
My favourite part is watching the younger generation getting hurt over words. Stay out of the trades. Us men who raised like this. Will chases you out. Two older brothers that were cops. One that was a paratrooper. 10, 9, and 7 years older. I was the punching bag for the family farm.
I love how they start out just watching and then the look of horror spreads over their faces. lol This is fairly close to my boots experience during the 80's.
He actually did this in real life Hes real gunery seargent Has a purple heart He wasnt even suppose to be in the movie He was ask to give advice He did this movie with no script its all him Thats why its perfect hes real life marine I been through basic army training this is what happens For everyone to understand this is to tear you down build you into a warrior They want adults not children They want a reason to get you in trouble saying stupud crap is to break youv This whole scene again is no script all gunnery seargent
All those who are shocked and surprised by Sargent Hartman should view real videos of Marine boot camp at Paris island. This is how you separate the wheat from the chaff.
I am happy to see you have included Chi and Hella from Movie Munchies. They’re a favorite of mine. They have clever insights and being from a different culture are refreshing for films I have seen before. This was interesting because they are Vietnamese and were definitely on a different page of the US Military Propaganda about that war. If you do Gran Torino their reaction was amazing. They seem to love Deadpool too.
The amount of reactors that have no Idea how TRUE this actually is. is mind blowing. This was real.. Bootcamp or Recruit training was meant to weed out the faint of heart in the US military. This is how hardened warriors are made.. well to the extent of what Hollywood is allowed to show in this movie.
That's an exaggeration. He came up with most of the dialogue himself, but he rehearsed it beforehand to find the best and funniest insults he could. Kubrick is also famous for multiple takes, so each of these scenes were done at least 2 or 3 times.
The added personal digs as he walks away from each cadet are so savage. - I'm not convinced work on it. - And not have the common decency to give him a reach around. I'll be watching you(this part was left out) Legendary
The most important thing to remember is that in the peaceful years before Vietnam, the Marines were training recruits to be Marines. Then suddenly they were training them to go overseas and fight in a war. Not only that, but they had to train double the amount of recruits in only half the time they'd usually have. As a result, they were a lot less strict with the rules. R. Lee Ermey himself that he never knew a DI who didn't put hands on a recruit, but it was never belligerent or hateful like Hartman is.
People need to remember that this movie is set in the 1960's during Vietnam, and the Drill Sergeants were really that cruel in the 60's. Nowadays not so much, but there is still yelling. 😉😜
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RIP Gunnery Sargent R.Lee Emery. Semper Fi.
He’ll live forever on film
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Sergeant. Sorry.
Vaya con Dios y en paz descansen. 😢
Oorah!
That's about how it was. I served 20 years in the Marine Corp and two combat tours in Vietnam. The first tour as a machine gunner (0331) in 1965-66 and the second as a Platoon commander (0369) in 1970-71. I retired after 20 years and had a 30 year career as a California police officer ( Marin County). What I learned in the Marine Corps has helped me all my life. I highly recommend it to anyone needing direction and wishing to learn self discipline .
Tom Boyte
GySgt. USMC, retired
Bronze Star, Purple Heart
Thank you for your service.
Thank you for all your sacrifice. I was privileged to escort a group of WW2 Marine Corps Vets to Iwo Jima for the 60th anniversary, It was the greatest event in my life. Standing on the black sands, looking up at Mount Suribachi with William "Bangs" Tosline and Jack Lucas was a true honor. I actually met R. Lee Ermey on that trip. I dont think the people watching this video understand the purpose of the Drill Sargent and what they are preparing these young men for, they were hard for a reason. Again, thank you for all you have done for this country and its citizens, both during your time in the Corps and your time after as a Police Officer. It is people like you that make me proud to be American!
Planning on joining the service seven years from now. Any tips or tricks so I can make the most of my time there?
In 1976, at the age of seventeen, I went to Marine Boot Camp. That boy didn't come back.
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'Did your parents have any children that lived?"
"Sir, yes, sir!"
"I bet they regret that!"
Gold
Nearly every line R Lee uttered in this movie was pure gold, but that burn was really good.
Took me a few seconds to get it 😂 I’d be laughing too much if I was one of them.
One of the best ones...
My favorite part of the movie is the obstacle course man that obstacle course scene had Roland I was in stitches on that part
This scene is legendary for a reason! R Lee was shooting off the hip, improvised over a half of what he was saying!
Gunny was a work of art. He knew that as hard as basic is, war is so much worse.
ESPECIALLY the Vietnam War.
In the Marines its boot camp, not basic training.
My Father was a Marine in the late 50's and early 60's. He said the scenes in this movie were the most accurate he ever saw portrayed by Hollywood of what boot camp was like.
There are two types of people in the world the ones that understand what the gunnery Sargent is doing and the ones that don't
Who better to portray a Marine Drill Instructor than someone that actually WAS one. RIP Gunney R. Lee Ermey.
His top rank on active duty was Staff Sergeant. After he played Gunny Hartman the gave him an honorary promotion to Gunnery Sergeant.
Jon A. - Sgt USMC 1981-89
This was actually his film debut. He was a technician before this. They were so impressed, they found they’re Sargent:)
R. Lee Ermey is a f'n legend. 🙏
That is true, yes.
This was and still is one of the best first 10 minutes in Cinema History! PERIOD!
“This is nothing compared to war” she said it best
None of it’s funny when you’ve been there. But you wouldn’t trade it for the world. In the end, you become a part of a brotherhood, a proud history and literally an envied cult. We are the proud and as Gunny Hartman says in Full Metal Jacket, “Today, you people are no longer maggots. Today, you are Marines. You're part of a brotherhood. From now on until the day you die, wherever you are, every Marine is your brother. Marines die. That's what we're here for. But the Marine Corps lives forever. And that means YOU live forever.”
I’m 60 and here to tell you… it’s fact. Semper Fi to all my brothers out there.
Thank you, sir.
I know while there first 3 weeks what did I do but will do it over MCRD San Diego 85
I wasn’t in the USMC but had several friends that went through. They hated it but all said they would not go back and give it up.
🫡 facts. People don’t even realize this goes on for almost the entire first week, and seems like nonstop, not just a few minutes 🫤
@@tritontransport first phase absolutely. The dynamic between drill instructor and recruit interaction in the following two phases however is equally appropriate. In first phase you hate your drill instructor. In third phase, you’d die for him.
I guarantee that boot camp was a walk in the park compared to what these boys experienced on the front lines. Pure hell.
The movie literally shows this. It's primarily an anti-war film. But it also seems to get why this kind of harsh training was necessary back then. There's a scene where the character called Joker is asked if he believes in the Virgin Mary, and he says he doesn't believe in her. And Hartman starts to lay into him to get him to change his mind, but he sticks to his ideals, and this impresses the Drill Instructor. He knew they were going into a place where at least half of them likely wouldn't be coming back and torture was a thing that could happen and was trying to prepare them for it as much as possible.
It's not the soldiers the movie is against. It's the concept of warfare itself and the dehumanizing factor of what goes into it from training to the battlefield.
Not Army. Marine Corps. Big difference.
Reason: The enemy will use more than words. Soft men do not make for strong soldiers.
Hooah, Army 12b ft leonard wood 2017 BCT my platoons DS were Rangers and Sappers, it was not a cake walk, it was not comfortable, but neither is the reality of war, low crawling on freshly waxed floors because someone’s shoe laces were right over left and not left over right was just the tip of the discipline iceberg
After joining the army in '01 I understood only after being deployed during O.I.F. that the air force was infact the way to go.
I love gunny, but marines? Lmao. Dont get me started. Lowest IQ easily among armed forces. And no one goes in on foot anymore like marines used too. Wars are won by air, simple. Infantry is outdated, just like marines.
Talk about sheep 😂😂😂
The greatest monologue in the history of cinema. R.I.P. GST. Ermey.
From the first moment you get off the bus, regardless of which branch you are in, the job of the Drill Sergeant/Drill Instructor is to make you learn and do it quickly while under stress. There is nothing more stressful than getting yelled at by a group of intimidating, hard-ass professionals in a situation you don't understand. The drill sergeants have to be the ones that you fear because they are the ones you will see every moment of every day and they must command your immediate obedience and fear in everything they ask. If they don't, then you will find yourself in a life and death situation and either freeze or think you know better than someone that has years more experience. That's the kind of stuff that gets people killed.
They meant to create a villain...instead they created a legend.
I think the intention was to create an interesting character, so that the bathroom scene took you by surprise and hit hard. If you think about it, the only two developed characters in the training part of the film were Hartman and Pyle. In war films, those two should have had plot armor. They did not.
@@Ocrilat When it comes to normal movies, I would definitely agree. But war films typically eliminate plot armor. The more focus characters get in these kinds of movies, the more likely at least one of them is to not make it. The shocking part of it is how it happens, not the fact that it happens.
@@SBaby Can you name any other war film where all the developed characters die by the end of the first act, let alone all dying during training? Not one developed main character...all of them.
@Ocrilat the intention was to show how awful war (some of that also being how bad military can be) and in general was an anti war (with a little anti military sprinkled in despite people I guarantee will say no it wasn't anti military)
Kubrick was not a fan of war or military and wanted show the brutal reality of both.
Only problem is this movie had the opposite effect and all branches (especially the marines) saw a massive boost in recruitment after this movie was released.
The intention wasn't to make an interesting character or a villain etc it was to show that this sucks and in the end it sucks.
@@rollingfinn2044 Lol you didn't know this was based on a book I guess. A book written by a U.S. Marine that served during the Tet Offensive (Gustav Hasford - The Short Timers).
Kubrick set out to make a film about Vietnam that was as honest and realistic as he could make it, from the perspective of a typical American soldier. It seems like you think if a movie isn't over-the-top pro-war then it's anti-war. Most people see the pro- or anti- thing as extremes, not as the only two choices.
What a legend and I miss ya Gunny. It was a pleasure to me you and have a conversation with a kick ass Marine.
R. Lee Ermey was hired on to the movie as a military consultant. He was supposed to work with the actor they hired to play Gunnery Hartman. The producers and director asked Ermey to give an example of how a Marine Drill Instructor. Ermey went off on a DI expletive filled tirade, dressing down the actor recruits, and scared the 💩 out of everyone. They fired the actor, and immediately hired Ermey for the role.
The actor that played the gunner in the helicopter shooting innocent people was the actor that was replaced.
100% accurate, I lived it USMC/2531 👍
You learn in the documentary about making Full Metal Jacket, that Gunny had ZERO scripted lines. This ENTIRE Bootcamp part was off the cuff.
He was a DI in Vietnam, He was kust doing what He used to do.
He wasn't even in the movie except as a consultant initially and after he demonstrated how it's done; they talked him into playing the role.
He was a great American Patriot. Rest In Peace Gunny.
RIP to the Goat... we'll always miss you Gunny 🤘... fun fact if you've never seen this gem, Ermey improvised this entire monologue after he was given the role from the original person who he felt couldn't be convincing enough... none of his lines are scripted
Yep, and I believe that the characters didn't have names until Ermey gave them in this scene. Or it could also be that Ermey was told who's nickname was whose and he took it from there
@@crazyman7671 I think it may have been he came up with his own changing them. But I'm not entirely sure, they also kept him and the recruit actors separate during shooting. So they would be more afraid of him, they didn't even know he was going to be the DI until day 1 of shooting.
The original actor that had the DI before Ermey was given the helo M-60 door gunner role, the guy who was shooting civilians.
@@xspindrift8737 "GET SOME.....GET SOME BABAY....GET SOME"
My dad was a world war two and Korean war Army combat vet, by the time we were in Vietnam he was stateside and an Army D.I. sgt. Like this marine DI, they do this to new recruits in those days to break down all of the teaching their parents and teachers taught them, then they remake them into soldiers or marines.
No, this is not dark comedy, this is how it was in the military. I was never hit nor did I see anyone get hit but we were talked to like this all the time. You learn real quick that words don't hurt... something we're missing in todays world.
Exactly ! In army infantry fort banning they didn’t call us maggots, they just simply called us 💩 bags 😂
After about day 3 or 4 you start to think they’re derogatory words are funny and then the hardest part is refraining from busting out laughing and maintains your military bearing so you don’t get smoked 🤣 😂
I was USAF. My TI (training instructor) was doing an inspection where they look in your open locker drawers to ensure everything is properly folded and squared, and he saw a pic of my dad in Florida after a fishing trip. He picked up the photo, and he yelled at me if I knew what kind of fish it was. I answered, sir,no sir. He answered back with, "You mean to me you don't know what kind of fish this is?" Again, I answered, Sir, no, sir. This went on about 2 or 3 times. Then he yelled back, "I tell you what kind of fish this is. It's a big fucking fish!" I answered back, sir, yes, sir. As he walked away, it took everything I had not to laugh.
I was in the Canadian Armed Forces from 81-94. After I got a job issuing parking tickets, with a bunch of other veterans.
We had been doing that job for years, when the company we worked for lost the contract to a security guard company.
The city thought they would save some money, but lost a lot of money as the deputized security guards would quit an hour into their first shift from the abuse they would take. The supervisor was a guy with 2 weeks experience who quit after he got paid.
They just couldn’t hack being yelled at.
I was in Marine Boot camp at that time. What you see recreated here is very accurate. We were hit and did knuckle push-ups on gravelly old asphalt.
Yes it was an experience but nothing compared to Vietnam.
They’re breaking your individuality to make you part of the team. To follow orders under tremendous stress. Every veteran watches this with a smile on our face
Turning you into an unthinking drone more like it.
R. Lee Emery is a national treasure. This is exactly how basic training is for the Devil Dogs of the Navy and combat arms branch of the Army. Drill sergeants have the most important job in the military, they turn PoS useless civilians into something actually useable to the nation.
As a Desert Storm Marine vet, it amazes me how civilians can’t see how we operate from boot camp to combat. Go find your safe space that the military created
didn't more of you guys die from accidents behind the front lines than in actual combat during that thing?
@carlrs15 I'm not sure that means what you think it does. Shouldn't training be harder than the real thing? Would it be better if more people died in combat? This is the military, there is no room for anything that doesn't make you more lethal.
I never in my life heard as many creative ways to insult...and motivate...a person as I did in boot camp. It was 50 years ago and it still amazes me.
Pretty accurate basic training scene, with not as much cussing and no hitting but the in-your-face creative cussing was accurate.
Gomer Pyle was a TV character from the 60's a simple minded mechanic from North Carolina who joins the marines and keeps messing up. Just for anyone else who ever wondered like the guy in the video.
Did basic at Benning in '81. My DI was 2 tour tunnel rat in Nam rounding out his 20. For the next 12 weeks he kicked our ass. Had no problem nocking the shit out of us. I turned 18 at AIT two weeks before jump school. I believe to this day those 20 weeks prepared me for the rest of my life.
I did basic there in ‘84. Harmony Church, the old WW2 barracks.
@NoMoreMrNice Sand Hill for me.
@@boomer-x-trooper82 Yeah, I was there in the middle of summer. I remember being so hot and tired all the time. They had some classes with big loud fans. All the drill instructors would be outside shooting the shit. But if you blinked, there would be one standing on the table in front of you, yelling and telling you to get outside and do pushups. 😂
I know people who served in the Marines back then and more recently and when they saw this for the first time, they all reacted like I did and laughed their butts off during this sequence. Ermey improvised all his dialogue in this sequence.
I’m glad most of the people who’s watching wasn’t in the military, worried about tone of voice. Should be worried about not getting killed.
I took Basic Training, at Ft. Polk, Louisianna, Oct-Dec, 1973. Thanksgiving weekend this kid in our company went AWOL. They arrested him at the bus station in Leesville. La. and brought him back. At 3 am we were called out of our bunks and assembled on the parade ground. The AWOL kid was paraded in front of us in his underwear (30 degree weather), then tied with hands and feet around a telephone pole. We stood at attention for a half hour and listened to him beg to be let go. Then, he went to the brig, No one else in our company went AWOL.
These guys didn’t even get the Gomer Pyle reference. Are they too young or am I too old? It’s probably the latter. 😂🤦🏽♂️
Yeah we're old. Remembering "Back Home Again In Indiana"
I'm in my late 40s and don't know the reference, so you must be ancient lol
@hadoken95 I'm 53 and I remember the show Gomer Pyle USMC.
@@hadoken95 Thanx…
We're too old
most of these folks think this was all acting, but he adlibbed all of this scene from his days as a Drill Sargent.
And never repeated the same insult.
“You’re so ugly you could be a modern art masterpiece” is the greatest, wittiest insult of all time.
This is exactly the way it was in boot camp, but not anymore. They need to bring this type of attitude back to the military, pronto!
Understand that those of us who made it through this benefited from it. And those who could not hack it had to be weeded out before they got people killed. Btw it's not any kind of comedy. It's drama. Real history.
Yea, when the dude said "dark comedy" I was like WHAT!?!
Indeed, as a youngster you come out stronger mentally and physically. And, contrary to the expressed notions of some, you aren't brainwashed.
@@MensaGiraffe he gets pansyass award
This entire scene shows how people didn’t benefit from this type of training.
@@ElTee842survival is a benefit.
Ash, we didn't laugh because we were smart enough to be scared shitless
Shame he yacked all over the important choking scene.
I'm always amazed at how accurate the boot camp scenes are. As of Dec 1977 this was nearly exactly (they weren't allowed to hit us then) the barracks, bunks, uniforms, dialogue. All realistic enough to be taken from actual footage
Same in 1983
They’ve been following more or less the same script since the beginning of time. 👍🏾
Same routine the military has been using for ages, and it is effective. Likewise when I went through initial training they weren't allowed to hit us but everything else brings back memories, which I can laugh at now of course.
Also, do NCOs get addressed as "Sir"?
The boot camp was filmed in England if I remember correctly. If you look close there are some signs they forgot to change to American versions.
“Suck a golf ball through a garden hose.” Kills me every time!! 😅😅😅😅😅
I love how the younger generations can't believe the Marine Corps where once just like this.
It was a one time and we were something to be proud of
We need to go back to that
lol that was my thought, popcorn chick is way too soft
Isnt it still like this?
military drill instructors are always purposefully harsh, loud, and relentless - even brutal at times - in order to create a high-pressure, high-stress environment that will prepare raw recruits for the unforgiving reality of the battlefield. If these young men cannot stand up to the stress of military training, they will not survive in combat, the ultimate high-stress situation, with life and death on the line. And if Leonard had had his breakdown in a combat situation, the outcome could have been much worse for all of his comrades… (PT stands for “physical training” - a regimen of rigorous physical exercise designed to get the recruits into tiptop condition so that they can better withstand the hardship and demands of combat.)
True, but it didn't take us long to realize it was all an act when I was a trainee during initial training. We knew the drill sergeants were just doing their job, they weren't actually sadists. The pain was real enough though.
If you cannot survive training, you will not survive combat. Once I heard a Navy officer say something that an Air Force sergeant corroborated. The most important thing to learn in training, and if you learn nothing else, is to make good decisions in highly stressful environments.
Agreed. There is one scene points that out. They are running through a shallow pond. Gomer Pyle is in front. He trips and everyone behind him trips due to his mistake. Then, the entire squad is helping him up which slows them down. A chain is only as strong as it's weakest link.
No, this movie is no dark comedy. This scene early in movie is the last laughters to have. The tragedy of human frailty & horrors of war are the themes of this incredible movie.
"Gomer Pyle... What does that even mean?"🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
search "Gomer Pyle episodes" in the search bar
These kids nowadays😂
Vincent Donofrio is such an awesome actor. Every one of his characters are completely unrecognizeable from each other.
Joker and Pyle are the guys who would instantly be hated in boot camp.
This not a dark comedy. This used to be real life. Anyone who went through Paris Island in the 60’s and 70’s are having flashbacks.
I graduated U.S. Marine boot camp, Parris Island, in 1973. We experienced 100% all that these guys did but this movie only shows half of the degrading stuff that we had to experience in recruit training over 12 weeks. No lie.
Semper Fi, bro. Marines '66-'70. And yea, it was worse than this.
Gulf War Marine Vet 86-91. It was fascinating how many ways they could come up with to hurt us on the Island! And that was always their worst threat: "You're never getting off MY island!" As time passed, you became stronger, fitter, more unstoppable. So they simply made things hurt longer. No matter how far we could get ahead, they'd help us find that line. You learned to get real comfortable with pain and stress. Helped me survive some truly heinous shit over the years. Just fall back on the training.
@thekenjensen Exactly. After I got out i was assistant director of security for a college in New England. The Dean, one day, called for a staff meeting and chewed us out (a civilian ass chewing). I was amazed of how my civilian peers were reacting to his words i.e. bordering on tears, sadness, fear, etc. Me? Just another beautiful day in New England.
The best 10 minutes of cinema ever created. The reactors don’t understand what it was like back in the day. They broke all individuals down so they would operate as a unit.
These young men were being prepared for intense combat.
Combat isn't polite.
It's fascinating to see the reactions from people not from the U.S. that didn't know or understand that this was literally how it was during the Vietnam War, in boot camp. (It's a lot tamer now in choices of words, but still as stress inducing).
Every country pretty much understands war…except for france
@@j.s3300 How many gears does an Italian Tank have? Six; one forward and five reverse.
"Unorganized grabastic pieces of amphibian shit."
One of the best lines in movie history. Since Lee Ermy ad libbed most of these scenes that was probably from him.
This movie brings back soooo many memories. It was released about the same time I graduated BootCamp.
Graduation night several of us got together hit Red Lobster for dinner then to the theater to watch this movie. We couldn’t believe just how much we could relate, even though the movie was set during Vietnam and it was now 1987.
Marines totally understand it. Heheheh. Now we laugh at it. Our DIs are tough and we all went through it. But having a DI prepare us from the get go for war is necessary to separate the wheat from the chaff. Semper Fi. Gunny, 79-99
When ur all SUFFERING TOGETHER-its not totally hellish. It's brutally hardcore don't get me wrong. But once u make it your family. And years after you leave marines are still your family. A stranger at the 🍸 your brother or sister. The thing I didn't like until recently is when people would respond with no I never served but my dad did. And I would have to listen about how their dad was better than me in every way ever. But dang now that I'm a father I reflect on those moments and smile knowing my children long after I'm dead and gone will still tell tales of my trophy room, my uniform and about the kind of BadAss I was. Semper Fi.
Love these soft ass reactors
The best parts of this whole video were the pure soft ass civilian reactions. The Vietnam era Boot Camp/Basic Training for Marines and Army were way different than what I went through in 1996 (Ft. Leopardwood 12B Combat Engineer Basic and AIT) even. The US Army had taken a "hands off" meaning no physical violence direction of training. We got yelled and cussed at all the time, and had shark attacks. The primary form of punishment was being smoked. Embarrassment, was a whole unit thing like having our Guide On replaced with a plunger on a stick with a toilet paper streamer. Our whole platoon got evicted one day for someone not emptying the trashcans.
Now if im not mistaken, Gunnery Sergeant Ermey wasnt an actor at first. After serving 11 years as a marine, he was only hired as a technical advisor for apocalypse now and one other war film.
He also wasn't the original actor for this role. He was given the part after they realized the other guy couldn't give the needed performance. He legit scared many of the actors with his performance. Most of this scene is 100% ad lib by him.
He was in Hamburger Hill too I think
He'd been in other movies prior. This was his 'breakout' role.
The siege at fire base Gloria and apocalypse now as a helicopter pilot.
My father was in the Marines before he went to Korea and he said this was accurate.....And this wasn't comedy it was real as it get's !!!!!
This movie shows why the military isnt for everyone.
“GET UP GET ON YOUR FEET!”
Just realized it’s a Ministry sample!!😊
The absolutely the funniest scene ever made….RIP Gunny❤ Semper Fi!
So the movie is set in 1968-69, but a lot of the things shown during basic training were not too different from when I went through in 1988. Our drill instructors were almost as intense but didn't hit us as much. Training was actually pretty similar. RIP Gy Ermey. Semper Fi.
You young'uns just don't know who Gunny is (was)... he passed 2018. The most hard-core gunnery sergeant (Basic Training Sarge) the Marine corps has ever known. He is still a legend. Known for his incredible ability to take little pieces of shit and turn them into Marines. Not an easy job. But he was the best. He played himself in the movies (he did NOT act). You watch the Full Metal Jacket scenes... that was Gunny Ermey. He didn't take no shit from nobody, and he only gave you the shit you deserved, and needed. And maybe a teaspoon more just for Mary Poppins.
He never made Gunny in real life but was given an honorary promotion by the Marine Corps to E-7 after the film came out.
I can honestly day i was blessed with the oppurtunity to meet MSgt Emery through the USO. Two things struck me, 1) he had a melon that was bigger than a damn football and 2) he was one of the NICEST people I have ever met. Sir RIP sir
I’ve seen MSgt Ermey in other shows after this movie and was struck by how “normal” and downright-pleasant he appeared.
Years ago, I met this boiler operator (George) through my job…literally 1 of the coolest people I ever met. Genuine, involved, tuned-in…just a solid dude. I was shocked to discover he was a retired Marine Corps drill sergeant! Wouldn’t have guessed it in a million years.
A special breed of human. RIP, to both of them.
The old Marine Corps training was like this. During the Vietnam war and before. I am not sure how the Marines train recently so I can't speak for the present
Gomer Pyle USMC was a sitcom in the 1960s staring Jim Nabors as Gomer, a sweet simple hick from North Carolina, who’s shenanigans drove his drill instructor sergeant Carter crazy. It was a spinoff of the Andy Griffith show.
My favourite part is watching the younger generation getting hurt over words. Stay out of the trades. Us men who raised like this. Will chases you out. Two older brothers that were cops. One that was a paratrooper. 10, 9, and 7 years older. I was the punching bag for the family farm.
I love how they start out just watching and then the look of horror spreads over their faces. lol This is fairly close to my boots experience during the 80's.
I like the woman Chrissie that laughed.
My brother served 11 years in the marine corps.
I went to Paris Island in April 1980! Toughest thing I have ever went through in my life, but it did make a man out of me!
He actually did this in real life
Hes real gunery seargent
Has a purple heart
He wasnt even suppose to be in the movie
He was ask to give advice
He did this movie with no script its all him
Thats why its perfect hes real life marine
I been through basic army training this is what happens
For everyone to understand this is to tear you down build you into a warrior
They want adults not children
They want a reason to get you in trouble saying stupud crap is to break youv
This whole scene again is no script all gunnery seargent
Imagine living that for 6 weeks, 24/7.
9 weeks❤
All those who are shocked and surprised by Sargent Hartman should view real videos of Marine boot camp at Paris island.
This is how you separate the wheat from the chaff.
Man i wish there was a blooper reel for this scene!😅
That look of utter bewilderment from Addie Counts reacting to Sergeant Hartman threatening to "skull-f**ck" Pyle @ 1:45- priceless! 🤣
Great movie and great scene
Full metal jacket is an amazing film
I am happy to see you have included Chi and Hella from Movie Munchies. They’re a favorite of mine. They have clever insights and being from a different culture are refreshing for films I have seen before. This was interesting because they are Vietnamese and were definitely on a different page of the US Military Propaganda about that war. If you do Gran Torino their reaction was amazing. They seem to love Deadpool too.
Not only was he a brave soldier serving America but he was a bad ass actor!! R.I.P. Sargent Emery
@@Prone2Thrill Marine or a Soldier of the Sea
Yes, have the common courtesy of giving someone a "reach-around"
The amount of reactors that have no Idea how TRUE this actually is. is mind blowing. This was real.. Bootcamp or Recruit training was meant to weed out the faint of heart in the US military. This is how hardened warriors are made.. well to the extent of what Hollywood is allowed to show in this movie.
Was in the Army. Drills in tbe Marines are a step above. I really understand why they do this and I honestly believe it makes a person better.
Ohhh Rahhhh! Semper Fi!!
The most intense, genuine, authentic character portrayal in any movie, ever. Lol. RIP Gunnery Sargent R. Lee Emery!
the positions of Joker and Gomer Pyle change during the drill sgt's talk
R. Lee Emery was not scripted but rather %100 adlib
That's an exaggeration. He came up with most of the dialogue himself, but he rehearsed it beforehand to find the best and funniest insults he could. Kubrick is also famous for multiple takes, so each of these scenes were done at least 2 or 3 times.
The added personal digs as he walks away from each cadet are so savage.
- I'm not convinced work on it.
- And not have the common decency to give him a reach around. I'll be watching you(this part was left out)
Legendary
He's the greatest 80's drill Sargentand what makes it better is that he was actually a drill Sargent in the army during the 80's
You know lee did that entire opening monologue in one take
Movie munchies Small Fry nailed it when she commented on it being during time of WAR.
These young men had to hit the ground running.
These reactions show just how soft these generations really are.
That stuff is actually scarier in real life. i graduated from Parris Island in 1998.
The most important thing to remember is that in the peaceful years before Vietnam, the Marines were training recruits to be Marines. Then suddenly they were training them to go overseas and fight in a war. Not only that, but they had to train double the amount of recruits in only half the time they'd usually have. As a result, they were a lot less strict with the rules. R. Lee Ermey himself that he never knew a DI who didn't put hands on a recruit, but it was never belligerent or hateful like Hartman is.
That is the real marine corps
People need to remember that this movie is set in the 1960's during Vietnam, and the Drill Sergeants were really that cruel in the 60's. Nowadays not so much, but there is still yelling. 😉😜