Tracks are basically wide rubber chains. Tires do less damage to grass/the ground when turning. If you need to dig or push, tracks give way better traction. These exact same machines with a different name on them sold for $2,800-3,000 at auction this past week here in Texas, they had dozens of them. I picked up a new mini excavator for $3,500, that’s how I found your channel, looking for what modifications I needed to do to it.
My AGROTK YSRT14 is exactly the same as your Roda RD380L minus the side plates. Thanks for posting these super helpful videos! I appreciate the info and good luck with newborn, promotion and the move!
FYI, I looked at my machine last night and noticed there were guards around the body where the hose fittings come out, so AGT did think of adding some level of protection there.
@@MR-gp9ys Check your tracks and make sure they have enough tension or else they will slip off. New Gas, Check the oil and change it soon. I just have 3 hours on mind and will be changing the engine oil this week. Hydraulic fill cap is suppose to vent, but does not so I modified it so it could breath. Check your hydraulic oil often. Grease your machine. Facebook has a couple of groups. Great place to get additional info. Search for Chinese mini excavator and mini skid friendly support.
@@MR-gp9ys the bearings for the idlers you can get at ORileys or discount auto- but the idlers themselves i recommend ordering from china if they ever fail.
Two more advantages of tracks over tires is they don't get flats, and they distribute the weight over a larger surface area so they might not leave too bad of a rut in the yard. It looks like a mini skid steer would be good for moving dirt, gravel or snow and smoothing out material, dirt or gravel. IMO the mini excavator can do a lot more things than a mini skid steer can, but the tasks people have would determine which machine would suit them best. I wonder how fast the mini skid steer is.
Would love to see a attachment video that uses the hydraulics. Can’t seem to get a straight answer on what is out there. Curious what the GPM is for the unit
I've been looking at all the various makes and models of these mini skid steers for some time now. I've been comparing track systems with the numerous drive setups, hydraulic pumps and how many, diesel engines vs. gas and all the different manufacturers who make these gas engines, as well as the overall size of the machine. I don't want to make the mistake of purchasing a unit that's undersized or underpowered for what i need to do, even if its for a job outside of the scope of what it was purchased for? I want to be sure that replacement parts are available. So it boils down to doing your homework first before going out and dropping thousands of dollars on equipment that won't live up to your expectations. Don't buy something because you believe it to be a deal when it really isn't. Dad always said, a cheap man pays twice. So true! Thanks for the video. Very informative.
I'll remember my QH12. I love it but feel a mini skid would be a perfect companion. My 24" tilt bucket is sweet, but a 44" bucketed skid steer would make life easier.
The rear roller bearings are not sealed. The plastic covers come off with rotation. The bearings have very little grease. I greased them up, for the cover, I cut a piece of rubber hose, clamped it on the bolt collar, so it just touches the plastic cover and stopped the one that was popping off, until I sort some better. Used the same rubber hose and attached so the rad doesn’t bang on the metal rest and get damaged. Also, when I pushed into a dirt pile the right track came loose, not the threads, maybe something was position wrong when I put the track back on. Tightened and it stayed tight, someone mentioned that the plate the adjuster road is attached to needs to be reinforced. Front roller wheel needs to come off, see what kind setup is in there. Cheers.
Tires are better for snow pushing every time. Tires actually cause less damage on the grass for turning. Tracks do less damage only if you don’t turn tight.
Hey I just bought an EG360 which looks the same as yours. My question is where can you buy parts for these units in Canada or the US? After 22hrs of operation my bearings went out and screwed up the bottom back wheel? Also, what type of hydraulic oil is used??? Thanks
@@JimmyDeanSlides Your aware these are not made in the States? You cant exactly call the manufacturer in China. AGT industrial is out of stock and Roda doesn't have any service department. I definitely recommend finding out who in China can supply the rear idlers? Because they will rust and through normal wear and tear not be able to correctly hold the bearings. The bearings you can get at the auto stores- but the idlers you have to order for China or have a machine shop custom fabricate them here.
Could you tell me how to know if the hydraulic fluid level is correct. I just bought one and my tank is about half. Not sure where the level indicator or i don't see a window to view the height. Also do you happen to know the size of the zerks.. Much appreciated..
Im wondering if yiu think it would be worth upgrading to a three stage pump. I just bought one for a smoking deal exactly the same as yours. But it is a little slow any mods i could do to help it a bit with out compamising the smooth controls
YOU SEEM VERY KNOWLEDGABLE ABOUT HYDRAULICS. I HAVE A MINI SKIDD STEER. I HAVE ONE AND I WISH IT WOULD ALLOW ME TO FLOAT THE BUCKET. DO YOU HAVE OR ARE YOU WORKING ON KIT THAT WOULD ALLOW THE BUCKET TO FLOAT?
I've got one of these, the bucket dump function on the lever becomes stiff (impossible) to move after a few minutes. Do you think this is a control valve issue or cylinder issue. All other hydraulic functions operate correctly. After an extended off time the lever can again be moved.
@csurfer hydraulic hoses are constructed in layers there's an inner layer that's impermeable so the fluid stays inside the hose then it's reinforced with steel cable before being covered with an outer sheathing sometimes the inner layer can get damaged and allow fluid to build up between the layers blocking off flow through the hose and after a while of no pressure on it it will slowly drain allowing flow again
Super helpful. I have a mini ex with lots of mods. I still need some of the upgrades you sell. I'm currently shopping for a mini skid steer, but wanted to stay with the single cylinder...although I was unsure about the power. I trust your evaluation and will get a single cylinder. Thanks.
Oh nice! I missed this video and this unit looks nearly exactly like the one I just bought! I got mine for a steal: $4000CAD (plus auction fees) or right around $3KUSD. Thanks much for the heads up on the quick connect style: I had no idea what this system was called!
I purchased a Roda RD50 mini dumper. It has a similar setup, with a 6.5HP Vanguard engine, and tandem pump. I don't understand why they didn't keep one pump for the drive motors and one for the tipping of the bucket/loader blade. And they have a dual spool valve on each side, one spool for the left/right drive motor, the other for tipping the bucket/loader blade. The thing is too damn slow. Just seems this should have the drive system powered with one pump, and the hydraulics on the other pump. And make the thing go faster then 1MPH. Also I got mine at an online auction that also was live. I put in a max bid of $2650, and won at $2500. With a 5% buyers premium, and 7% Iowa state sales tax, so I ended up paying $3808. The odd thing, there were two of these, the next one sold for $1600. So who was my agent at the auction, as I believe they could see my max bid, and run it up with shill bids. I still feel screwed. I was the only bidder online as no one else was bidding against me, before the live auction started. I'm really interested in making the spool valves on my AGT L12 mini-excavator (how I found your channel) to have some variable flow to reduce the jerk. I hope you continue with that issue in the future videos (reference your video Inside your Hydraulic Directional Control Valves and possible mods).
Is $5500 too much for one of these locally in your opinion. I just need something for mulch moving, seems like plenty of machine for that but so many folks on here talking sub $3000. I just haven’t seen any that cheap personally around here.
I just bought one in Kimberley BC Canada for 2700 plus auction fees so around 3 grand but I also see most of them on Ritchie Bros for for around 5500. It was a smaller auction. So I don't think people really know what they are going for. It's been great. Got 2.5 hrs been great so far little slow.
@@travisroesner6819 great deal! I am about to go check out one about an hr drive from me this weekend. Different model (SL 36) but seems to have similar specs priced at $5200.
5ish seems to be the going retail price for these small machines (minivexcavators mini skid steers and mini front end loaders) no matter where you are but they can be had a little cheaper at auction as long as you set your price and don't go over gotta factor in all the expenses auction fees taxes and shipping or your time and fuel to go get it its really all a matter of how fast do you need it and do you have the time to dedicate to watching all the different auctions to get the one you are looking for
@@MrCheaterpipe thanks brother! I ended up spending a bit more and got a JD riding Skid. Its still pretty small but significantly larger than these stand on versions. It's a work horse no doubt, been putting it through the works on my property. Cheers!
Better question is what do you do about parts if you break a drive motor or break a track anybody know a good site because half of these machines are no name
The mini skids seem to go on a average price more at the auctions. Even though I think that the mini excavators do a lot more tasks for the money. Mini skids are simpler in form and operation and can lift more. Unless you have prior experience mini excavators seem harder to master and therefore can’t comprehend all the tasks they actually can be useful for. So people tend to go to them first over a mini excavator for a first machine or only machine. They look at excavators as specialized equipment when it is but also a jack of all trades.
Please keep going and making vids on the mini ex's. This is incredibly helpful content helping people keep these chinese machines running. thanks.
Tracks are basically wide rubber chains.
Tires do less damage to grass/the ground when turning.
If you need to dig or push, tracks give way better traction.
These exact same machines with a different name on them sold for $2,800-3,000 at auction this past week here in Texas, they had dozens of them.
I picked up a new mini excavator for $3,500, that’s how I found your channel, looking for what modifications I needed to do to it.
My AGROTK YSRT14 is exactly the same as your Roda RD380L minus the side plates. Thanks for posting these super helpful videos! I appreciate the info and good luck with newborn, promotion and the move!
FYI, I looked at my machine last night and noticed there were guards around the body where the hose fittings come out, so AGT did think of adding some level of protection there.
Just bought a 2024 AGT YSTR14 last week brand new at an auction. Haven't picked it up yet. How are you liking it. Any pointers or tips i should know..
@@MR-gp9ys Check your tracks and make sure they have enough tension or else they will slip off. New Gas, Check the oil and change it soon. I just have 3 hours on mind and will be changing the engine oil this week. Hydraulic fill cap is suppose to vent, but does not so I modified it so it could breath. Check your hydraulic oil often. Grease your machine. Facebook has a couple of groups. Great place to get additional info. Search for Chinese mini excavator and mini skid friendly support.
@@MR-gp9ys the bearings for the idlers you can get at ORileys or discount auto- but the idlers themselves i recommend ordering from china if they ever fail.
One of the best videos I have seen on these
Two more advantages of tracks over tires is they don't get flats, and they distribute the weight over a larger surface area so they might not leave too bad of a rut in the yard.
It looks like a mini skid steer would be good for moving dirt, gravel or snow and smoothing out material, dirt or gravel. IMO the mini excavator can do a lot more things than a mini skid steer can, but the tasks people have would determine which machine would suit them best. I wonder how fast the mini skid steer is.
Would love to see a attachment video that uses the hydraulics. Can’t seem to get a straight answer on what is out there. Curious what the GPM is for the unit
I've been looking at all the various makes and models of these mini skid steers for some time now.
I've been comparing track systems with the numerous drive setups, hydraulic pumps and how many, diesel engines vs. gas and all the different manufacturers who make these gas engines, as well as the overall size of the machine. I don't want to make the mistake of purchasing a unit that's undersized or underpowered for what i need to do, even if its for a job outside of the scope of what it was purchased for?
I want to be sure that replacement parts are available.
So it boils down to doing your homework first before going out and dropping thousands of dollars on equipment that won't live up to your expectations. Don't buy something because you believe it to be a deal when it really isn't. Dad always said, a cheap man pays twice. So true! Thanks for the video. Very informative.
Which model did You buy?
@@adamj7562 A Toro Dingo TX525 used with low hours and a reasonable price. All parts accessable thru a dealer. Chinese models? Not so much.
I just got one with tires and the 23 hp motor its awesome so far!
FYI, you should check that lower idle roller below the track motor. I've seen several that the seal pops out and the bearing gets dry.
Very helpful information. I am considering adding one of these to go with my mini excavator.
I've been seeing these on Ritchie Bros when looking at Min-Exs. Thanks for the overview.
Congrats on the new born and the big move my man.
I'll remember my QH12. I love it but feel a mini skid would be a perfect companion. My 24" tilt bucket is sweet, but a 44" bucketed skid steer would make life easier.
The rear roller bearings are not sealed. The plastic covers come off with rotation. The bearings have very little grease. I greased them up, for the cover, I cut a piece of rubber hose, clamped it on the bolt collar, so it just touches the plastic cover and stopped the one that was popping off, until I sort some better. Used the same rubber hose and attached so the rad doesn’t bang on the metal rest and get damaged. Also, when I pushed into a dirt pile the right track came loose, not the threads, maybe something was position wrong when I put the track back on. Tightened and it stayed tight, someone mentioned that the plate the adjuster road is attached to needs to be reinforced. Front roller wheel needs to come off, see what kind setup is in there. Cheers.
Tires are better for snow pushing every time. Tires actually cause less damage on the grass for turning. Tracks do less damage only if you don’t turn tight.
I bought one of these units to use at our home for snow removal. Does anyone know where the hydraulic eye glass is located.
This is super helpful please keep making more videos on these and excavators
I'm a bit rough on things,and looking at those hoses,Id put a guard over the front of them,so they don't get ripped off 😅
What type of hydraulic fluid do I need to buy? Mine is a little bit low. I have a jq400
I'd use an aw46 hydraulic fluid
Very informative vid! Thank you for sharing your thoughts.
Hey I just bought an EG360 which looks the same as yours. My question is where can you buy parts for these units in Canada or the US? After 22hrs of operation my bearings went out and screwed up the bottom back wheel? Also, what type of hydraulic oil is used??? Thanks
How do you get parts for the Roda 380L? My rear idlers are rusting and need replacement. Wont hold the bearing in place well and track slips off.
Either reach out to the manufacturer or take the idlers to a parts store and see if they have an equivalent
@@JimmyDeanSlides Your aware these are not made in the States? You cant exactly call the manufacturer in China. AGT industrial is out of stock and Roda doesn't have any service department. I definitely recommend finding out who in China can supply the rear idlers? Because they will rust and through normal wear and tear not be able to correctly hold the bearings. The bearings you can get at the auto stores- but the idlers you have to order for China or have a machine shop custom fabricate them here.
Could you tell me how to know if the hydraulic fluid level is correct. I just bought one and my tank is about half. Not sure where the level indicator or i don't see a window to view the height. Also do you happen to know the size of the zerks.. Much appreciated..
We're do you order parts for it like the rear idler and bottom tires
I have rear idlers listed on central digger supply website
Love the video. Congratulations on the promotion
Im wondering if yiu think it would be worth upgrading to a three stage pump. I just bought one for a smoking deal exactly the same as yours. But it is a little slow any mods i could do to help it a bit with out compamising the smooth controls
YOU SEEM VERY KNOWLEDGABLE ABOUT HYDRAULICS. I HAVE A MINI SKIDD STEER.
I HAVE ONE AND I WISH IT WOULD ALLOW ME TO FLOAT THE BUCKET.
DO YOU HAVE OR ARE YOU WORKING ON KIT THAT WOULD ALLOW THE BUCKET TO FLOAT?
Do you know where to buy attachments?
Thank you for sharing your in-depth knowledge. It is very helpful for ppl like me on the market for skid steer.
I've got one of these, the bucket dump function on the lever becomes stiff (impossible) to move after a few minutes. Do you think this is a control valve issue or cylinder issue. All other hydraulic functions operate correctly. After an extended off time the lever can again be moved.
Sounds more like an internal leak in a hose pressuring up and blocking off flow I would get new hoses and see what happens
@@MrCheaterpipe ??? Internal leak in hose, I don't understand.
@csurfer hydraulic hoses are constructed in layers there's an inner layer that's impermeable so the fluid stays inside the hose then it's reinforced with steel cable before being covered with an outer sheathing sometimes the inner layer can get damaged and allow fluid to build up between the layers blocking off flow through the hose and after a while of no pressure on it it will slowly drain allowing flow again
@@MrCheaterpipe..thank you for your quick response. Interesting, I'll investigate this further.
@@csurfer those new hoses fix your issue?
Does anyone know where I can get an owners manual for this? Mine didn’t come with one and I can’t find it online
I've noticed that some models have 7" tracks. Do you think that's a benefit over your 6" tracks or not, and why?
I think the 6” is completely fine and probably helps it turn with less power
@@thegarageconnection Thank you.
do you know how to bypass the incline shutoff function. mine keeps dying on incline.
It’s probably dying off the low oil switch
Super helpful. I have a mini ex with lots of mods. I still need some of the upgrades you sell. I'm currently shopping for a mini skid steer, but wanted to stay with the single cylinder...although I was unsure about the power. I trust your evaluation and will get a single cylinder. Thanks.
Bucket tilt cylinder was a nightmare to replace , after the gland broke with a heavy lift
How did you get parts?
Oh nice! I missed this video and this unit looks nearly exactly like the one I just bought!
I got mine for a steal: $4000CAD (plus auction fees) or right around $3KUSD.
Thanks much for the heads up on the quick connect style: I had no idea what this system was called!
Which auction? I’m in Canada looking for one
I purchased a Roda RD50 mini dumper. It has a similar setup, with a 6.5HP Vanguard engine, and tandem pump. I don't understand why they didn't keep one pump for the drive motors and one for the tipping of the bucket/loader blade. And they have a dual spool valve on each side, one spool for the left/right drive motor, the other for tipping the bucket/loader blade. The thing is too damn slow. Just seems this should have the drive system powered with one pump, and the hydraulics on the other pump. And make the thing go faster then 1MPH.
Also I got mine at an online auction that also was live. I put in a max bid of $2650, and won at $2500. With a 5% buyers premium, and 7% Iowa state sales tax, so I ended up paying $3808. The odd thing, there were two of these, the next one sold for $1600. So who was my agent at the auction, as I believe they could see my max bid, and run it up with shill bids. I still feel screwed. I was the only bidder online as no one else was bidding against me, before the live auction started.
I'm really interested in making the spool valves on my AGT L12 mini-excavator (how I found your channel) to have some variable flow to reduce the jerk. I hope you continue with that issue in the future videos (reference your video Inside your Hydraulic Directional Control Valves and possible mods).
What is the gpm on the pumps
Amazing video!
Great overview. I wouldn't purchase one unless drive was operated by left stick. Bucket and arms right stick .
Good information, thank you!
How much does this machine weigh?
Just shy of 2k
Water tank for weight??
🎉
Is $5500 too much for one of these locally in your opinion. I just need something for mulch moving, seems like plenty of machine for that but so many folks on here talking sub $3000. I just haven’t seen any that cheap personally around here.
That’s a fantastic price for it
I just bought one in Kimberley BC Canada for 2700 plus auction fees so around 3 grand but I also see most of them on Ritchie Bros for for around 5500. It was a smaller auction. So I don't think people really know what they are going for. It's been great. Got 2.5 hrs been great so far little slow.
@@travisroesner6819 great deal! I am about to go check out one about an hr drive from me this weekend. Different model (SL 36) but seems to have similar specs priced at $5200.
5ish seems to be the going retail price for these small machines (minivexcavators mini skid steers and mini front end loaders) no matter where you are but they can be had a little cheaper at auction as long as you set your price and don't go over gotta factor in all the expenses auction fees taxes and shipping or your time and fuel to go get it its really all a matter of how fast do you need it and do you have the time to dedicate to watching all the different auctions to get the one you are looking for
@@MrCheaterpipe thanks brother! I ended up spending a bit more and got a JD riding Skid. Its still pretty small but significantly larger than these stand on versions. It's a work horse no doubt, been putting it through the works on my property. Cheers!
Better question is what do you do about parts if you break a drive motor or break a track anybody know a good site because half of these machines are no name
Amazon Wil sell you just about any part on this machine
The mini skids seem to go on a average price more at the auctions. Even though I think that the mini excavators do a lot more tasks for the money. Mini skids are simpler in form and operation and can lift more. Unless you have prior experience mini excavators seem harder to master and therefore can’t comprehend all the tasks they actually can be useful for. So people tend to go to them first over a mini excavator for a first machine or only machine. They look at excavators as specialized equipment when it is but also a jack of all trades.
Where can I get hydrologic seal for drive train on side. Any help be greatly appreciated. From Birmingham Al
If have company or phone number please
Pure junk owned one