One Israeli Hostage’s Unusual Experience in Gaza

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  • Опубликовано: 22 окт 2024

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  • @constantquestioning4010
    @constantquestioning4010 2 месяца назад +21

    Why don’t the human beings in the Gaza Strio refugee camp have the right to travel abroad and return home like any other human being in the world?
    Why??

  • @OllytheOl
    @OllytheOl 2 месяца назад +43

    The interviewer sounds very surprised that the Gazans were capable of treating people with dignity and humanity. She says wow a lot. Says a lot about her outlook.

    • @trimetrodon
      @trimetrodon Месяц назад

      Not so much “her outlook” as the propagandistic narrative the entire western world is immersed in.
      The term “terrorists” to describe the Gazan militants is illustrative of the extreme prejudice imposed by the narrative.
      Palestine belongs to Palestinians. “Military rule” is military occupation and that occupation is BRUTAL, SADISTIC and I L L E G A L.
      A fact of international law is that those under such an illegal military occupation have the right to use force to oppose it. Meanwhile, those imposing the occupation DO NOT have a right to defend against those opposing that murderous, criminal occupation.
      These are FACTS of international law but Americans have been hearing a lie repeated over and over and over: “Israel has a right to defend itself.” This claim is as absurd as claiming murderous armed robbers have a right to defend themselves when those being murdered and robbed resist! This is an example of how Zionists in the west control sufficient media to make Americans agree with all the foundational absurdities intrinsic to Zionism.
      Americans need to know how much cash flowed from Israel to Hamas and they need to realize Israel payed Hamas for the same reason they pay congressmen: to get them to do treasonous things they would not otherwise do. Yes, Israel has a history of co-opting other people’s terrorists to get them to do things contrary to their own interest but consistent with Israel’s Machiavellian schemes. (See Ronen Bergman’s book Rise & Kill First, and Victor Ostrovsky’s books.)
      Regarding 10/7, everyone needs to realize the IDF was ordered to stand down for about 7 or 8 hours AND that the IDF was ordered to murder Israel civilians under the Hannibal Directive. The IDF executed these orders using tanks in Kibbutz Be’eri and with Apache Helicopter above the rave. IDF pilots admitted following orders to kill “everything that moved” and the piles of autos shredded by 30mm machine guns and Hellfire missiles that leave damage uncharacteristic of anything carried to Israel on 10/7. Israeli media sources covered the facts of Israeli atrocities against Israeli civilians while mainstream US media sources scrupulously ignored them.
      The fact is US media and politics are Israeli Occupied Territories and these occupations enable Israel to maintain their illegal occupation and to slaughter so many innocent Palestinians with the approval and support of Americans kept ignorant of what Israel does and how they do it.

    • @llkoolbean4935
      @llkoolbean4935 Месяц назад +1

      And about her ignorance and brainwashing

  • @missmelis7260
    @missmelis7260 2 месяца назад +34

    I don’t know what else you will say… but it sounds like you’re about to say that you still believe that the Gazans are humans and Oct 7 didn’t happen in a vacuum. Oh how I pray this continues in this narrative

    • @deborahdean8867
      @deborahdean8867 2 месяца назад

      You can slobber fake sympathy and kind feeling all you wsnt, but now israrl is worse than the naxis, worse than hitler, worse than anybody I have ever heard of.
      I usually hear this trash from people who would gladly send their own sons to die for the depraved and make future generations pay for the bill. I suspect it has tp do with the Christian zionist thing about the rapture. They want to get to heaven so bad, they don't care who they step on to get there. Bible readers know how that will end.

    • @rolasaid1701
      @rolasaid1701 Месяц назад

      what about to go back in history 76 years back, to 1948 and before to find out who is humans and who is the barbaric. 80% of Gaza populationare are from what we call it Palestine 1948 territireis, before creating zionism colonisation entity on the palestinian`s land and call it Israel ( by using judism to justify their existance on Palestinians land) . In 1917 when the zionism plan appear by Hertzil, the Jewish population in the whole palestine ( Israel, wet bank and Gaza) were just 3%.

  • @johndoe-zz1nr
    @johndoe-zz1nr 2 месяца назад +29

    She was probably treated much better than thousands of Palis in Isreali jails

    • @brynawaldman5790
      @brynawaldman5790 Месяц назад

      Israeli doctors saved Yaya Sinwar 's life from a fatal brain tumor. You lie.

    • @brynawaldman5790
      @brynawaldman5790 Месяц назад

      PS read Mosab Hassan Yousef, son of a founder of Hamas, or find his interviews. He was in an Israeli prison for 3 years. His autobiography "Son of Hamas," will educate you.

    • @llkoolbean4935
      @llkoolbean4935 Месяц назад

      For sure she was.

    • @brynawaldman5790
      @brynawaldman5790 Месяц назад +1

      Read Mosab Hassan Yousef's autobiography, "Son of Hamas.". His dad is one of Hamas' founders. He was in an Israeli prisoner for 3 years. He discovered, in prison, that Hamas prisoners treated imprisoned Palestinians, much worse than Israeli guards did.
      Much much worse.
      T*rt**r**g innocent Palestinians to d***h to make them admit they collaborated w Israel.
      He'll tell you directly about Israeli prison.
      Also, Yaya Sinwar got treatments for a deadly brain tumor while imprisoned in Israel. Tens of thousands of $ of free medical work which saved his life. Pretty nice of Israel to do that for him.

  • @kenyangaza5671
    @kenyangaza5671 2 месяца назад +70

    Compare this with what is happening to Palestinians in Israeli detention camps.

    • @shulamay
      @shulamay 2 месяца назад +6

      Her story was the exception to the rule.. compare it with the experience of other kidnapped civillians and to what happened to innocent people on october 7th.
      Regardless, I agree that a sane nation should treat even murderous terrorists humanely and not do what those soldiers did. I support the Israeli justice system in it's struggle against the extreme right ideologues who are trying to delegitimize it.

    • @JuneBarbone
      @JuneBarbone 2 месяца назад +1

      Everyday in every way israel shows how evil they really are!

    • @trish5111
      @trish5111 2 месяца назад

      ​​@@shulamayher story was not exceptional. I have heard similar stories from other hostages. The people who speak positively or perhaps honestly is a better word, have been harrassed.
      Israelis want to dehumanise Palestinians and especially the imprisoned Gazans it would seem.
      Seriously you people don't seem to understand how entitled and ignorant you sound to the rest of the world - even the more 'Liberal Zionists' among you.
      She lived near an open air prison that was regularly bombed and her government refers to that as 'cutting the grass'.
      You DO NOT hear of any kind of humanity for the Palestinian hostages.
      Starvation, torture and r*pe is what they get.
      I don't think I could be so gracious as the Palestinian people were to her if I was in their place.
      Its sad that she lost her home and her husband and she experienced trauma for sure but most Palestinians have experienced these losses at the hands of Israel and some multiple times.
      The other thing is that it may very well have been her own army that killed her husband. H didn't have the kind of firepower to do all that damage and IDF soldiers have admitted to shooting at cars and houses with tanks and helicopter guns.

    • @mauricehalfhide3982
      @mauricehalfhide3982 2 месяца назад +10

      @@shulamay keep in mind that those 'innocents' are almost all military, or would have served at one time. And are occupiers who do not care about the people behind a wall less than two miles away. Some of them were offed (or wounded) by their own state on that day! I don't think anyone knows the actual number but we do know they were fired on from helicopters and from tanks. Have you heard the story of one woman who was let out of her house that was still full of hostages and she pleaded with the military to understand that they should hold their fire. They didn't. The state has also not prioritized hostage release, which is a point this woman makes. Think also that the unrelenting bombing would naturally affect the conditions the hostages are kept in, including causing more deaths.

    • @Dandelliondreams
      @Dandelliondreams 2 месяца назад

      ​@@shulamayNone of them are given back grape d , starved or tortured. We have eyes to see with, FREE FREE FREE PALESTINE

  • @fburton8
    @fburton8 2 месяца назад +25

    Extraordinary interview. Thank you for sharing!

  • @Vanessa4PeaceJustice
    @Vanessa4PeaceJustice 2 месяца назад +13

    Thank you for thos interview. I wish peace for all and justice for those who have been harmed so much over the last 76 years. I would love to visit the holy land when everyone is free and equal. May it happen in my lifetime 🕊️

  • @the5pointsconglomoratemedi541
    @the5pointsconglomoratemedi541 2 месяца назад +38

    Id love to see if they could also interview a Palestinian hostage kept in Israeli torture camps which B’Tselem have reported multiple sexual violence and gang rapes and many Palestinian hostages dying in those Israeli torture chambers

    • @nancikuba42
      @nancikuba42 2 месяца назад +4

      I’ve seen RUclips videos of those in Israeli prisons. You can check them out, unless they took them off. I saw men’s & also women’s prison in Israel.

    • @Claudia-cr2pm
      @Claudia-cr2pm 2 месяца назад

      @the5pointsconglomoratemedi541 mainstream media probably couldn't ever get approval to release anything like that.

  • @TrustMe55
    @TrustMe55 2 месяца назад +11

    Thank you for your truthful testimony, You have my deepest sympathy on the loss of your husband. I was touched by the the part in your testimony where you couldn’t come home and share what you had been through with your husband, l have lost my husband and I needed so much to let him know what I was feeling about his deathbut he was gone so I do understand

  • @M4ii0r
    @M4ii0r 2 месяца назад +15

    Thank you for sharing your voice. I wish the best for your healing and the future you decide.

  • @asyamansurova9031
    @asyamansurova9031 2 месяца назад +3

    “On the other side of the fence. Human beings are living” 👏🔥 - says Liat Beinin Atzili

  • @josiahpaez4601
    @josiahpaez4601 2 месяца назад +9

    That was amazing. Thank you so much for sharing your experience and thoughts. I am deeply grieved for your loss. I have really been struggling to sort though how to view or support people on either side of this conflict and what you shared has given me some clarity and hope. Shalom. 🕊️

    • @shulamay
      @shulamay 2 месяца назад +2

      I'm curious to hear if this helped you choose a side.
      What Liat is telling, in my mind, doesn't clarify this question whatsoever. To me it just shows how messy and crazy humanity is.

    • @josiahpaez4601
      @josiahpaez4601 2 месяца назад

      ​@@shulamayYou know what... 30 minutes I tried forming a response, erased all of it, and tried again for another 30 minutes. Every time I worked something out, it always led me back to the conclusion that the formation of Israel was wrong because taking peoples land or property by force is wrong. That being said, the bit that resonated for me was the thought that if we could all accept that both peoples are here to stay, then it should be possible to find a way to do so peacefully. But the more I thought about it, the more wrong it seems to insist Israelis have a right to stay. I don't know how we can "undo" Israel at this point though. The fate of Palestinians seems likely to take the course of the American Indians, which is tragic to me. Unless other actors intervene, only time will tell. But unless the state Israel suddenly admits what it has done and is doing is wrong and freely gives control back over to the Palestinian people (what does that even mean or look like), then I don't think we can expect anything other than injustice and suffering, mostly for the Palestinians. I hate tribalism and choosing sides, but you could say I've been on the "Palestinian" side for a long time now (for years before the Oct 7th attack). But, I also see the hope and determination of the Jewish people that have struggled to make a Jewish state a reality. What they have accomplished is remarkable, but the way they've gone about it seems clearly wrong to me. I also see their losses and suffering. I truly do hope that the jewish families who have ancestry in the land of Palestine and want to return can return, but not via occupation, not via bloodshed.
      One last thought, I have Spanish ancestry, but I don't speak the language of my ancestors, I don't know how to cook what they cooked, I don't know their folklore or legends or religion, or games. I have accepted that I am not my ancestors, I am not Spanish. Even if I learned all those things, I would still not be Spanish. Nor would I have a right to move to Spain, take peoples land, or start my own government there. I'm an American, whether I like it or not. Whether I feel safe or not. I'm going to do what I can to make America as inclusive and safe for every other peaceful American as I can. If your ancestors are Jewish and American, I welcome you as my neighbor and fellow countryman. I welcome and implore you to practice your faith and traditions peacefully here. Please stay, or come back. And please don't displace others from their land or culture.

    • @josiahpaez4601
      @josiahpaez4601 2 месяца назад +4

      @@shulamay You know what... 30 minutes I tried forming a response, erased all of it, and tried again for another 30 minutes. Every time I worked something out, it always led me back to the conclusion that the formation of Israel was wrong because taking peoples land or property by force is wrong. That being said, the bit that resonated for me was the thought that if we could all accept that both peoples are here to stay, then it should be possible to find a way to do so peacefully. But the more I thought about it, the more wrong it seems to insist Israelis have a right to stay. I don't know how we can "undo" Israel at this point though. The fate of Palestinians seems likely to take the course of the American Indians, which is tragic to me. Unless other actors intervene, only time will tell. But unless the state Israel suddenly admits what it has done and is doing is wrong and freely gives control back over to the Palestinian people (what does that even mean or look like), then I don't think we can expect anything other than injustice and suffering, mostly for the Palestinians. I hate tribalism and choosing sides, but you could say I've been on the "Palestinian" side for a long time now (for years before the Oct 7th attack). But, I also see the hope and determination of the Jewish people that have struggled to make a Jewish state a reality. What they have accomplished is remarkable, but the way they've gone about it seems clearly wrong to me. I also see their losses and suffering from all the conflict with the local population stretching back over the last century. I truly do hope that the jewish families who have ancestry in the land of Palestine and want to return can return or stay in the land, but not via occupation, not via bloodshed.
      One last thought, I have Spanish ancestry, but I don't speak the language of my ancestors, I don't know how to cook what they cooked, I don't know their folklore or legends or religion, or games. I have accepted that I am not my ancestors, I am not Spanish. Even if I learned all those things, I would still not be Spanish. Nor would I have a right to move to Spain, take peoples land, or start my own government there. I'm an American, whether I like it or not. Whether I feel safe or not. I'm going to do what I can to make America as inclusive and safe for every other peaceful American as I can. If your ancestors are Jewish and American, I welcome you as my neighbor and fellow countryman. I welcome and implore you to practice your faith and traditions peacefully here. Please stay, or come back. And please don't displace others from their land or culture.

  • @ranahaydar5251
    @ranahaydar5251 2 месяца назад +3

    Thank you for your humanity and sincerity. Thank for sharing your wise voice. People like you are necessary. I wish you all the best.

  • @asyamansurova9031
    @asyamansurova9031 2 месяца назад +2

    Beautiful, truthful and balanced interview. It’s saddening that people are dying in such conflicts

  • @mebdoc
    @mebdoc 2 месяца назад +5

    She sounds quite humane and evolved.

  • @YogaladyToronto
    @YogaladyToronto 2 месяца назад +39

    Very interesting interview. Too bad it’s so brief and that the woman struggled to provide more details of her captivity experience, which was very humane.
    It’s most interesting that she was able to view the Palestinian captors as actual humans and kind. This is contrary to the Israeli government narrative that all Palestinians are “human animals”. The woman understood that the Palestinians were forced to live in very restrictive apartheid conditions.
    I wish her well in her healing journey.

    • @shulamay
      @shulamay 2 месяца назад +4

      Notice that she blames Hamas and Israeli indirect support of Hamas for the Gazan's living conditions.

    • @GreenCanvasInteriorscape
      @GreenCanvasInteriorscape 2 месяца назад +3

      Show me where the Israeli government has characterized them in that way, in addition please cite other examples of war where the enemy attacks a population of civilians on a high holy day during a ceasefire and then expects to be fed fueled and shuffled around while a war is fought against the people that they elected and participated in the raids / murder sprees on October 7th?

    • @DavidAndrew-t3n
      @DavidAndrew-t3n 2 месяца назад +3

      @@GreenCanvasInteriorscapeI can show you an occupied people being slowly exterminated and are fighting back. Palestinians

    • @adamclevi
      @adamclevi 2 месяца назад

      @@GreenCanvasInteriorscapeplease cite a war where one side has total control of the other side’s electricity and water and can therefore turn it off and on whenever they want.

    • @trish5111
      @trish5111 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@GreenCanvasInteriorscapeare you serious ? Do u not use social media ? We heard genocidal rhetoric and saw genocidal behaviour all the time ! Right from the start.
      RUclips won't allow to provide links but maybe try researching instead of just believing Israel TV or whatever ! Astounding !
      They refer to the Palestinian people as 'terrorists' 'animals' Amelak (not sure of spelling) and even during regular bombing campaigns in Gaza they refer to it as 'mowing the grass'...so even thinking of the people of Gaza as lower than animals. Grass ! Having no higher consciousness or sentience !

  • @MelianResurrection
    @MelianResurrection 2 месяца назад +39

    With all due respect she and her settlement were practically prison guards for the Gaza concentration camp. She and her people could literally hear the children crying from the bombing by Israeli planes for the past 20 years. I don’t know how she sleeps at night.

    • @HasanKhanjar
      @HasanKhanjar 2 месяца назад +3

      if you go around this topic more in youtube it wont be long before you encounter testimonies of those who cant sleep if they didnt hear those screams

    • @shulamay
      @shulamay 2 месяца назад +2

      Why was the fence built?

    • @Carla39894
      @Carla39894 2 месяца назад +2

      Israel pulled out of Gaza in 2006.

    • @MelianResurrection
      @MelianResurrection 2 месяца назад +15

      @@Carla39894 yes they changed from a tactic of direct occupation to siege and strangulation. Did you read the above reply properly? It’s like saying the Germans are good because they pulled out of the Ghettos instead of saying the Germans imprisoned the people in Ghettos.
      Did you know that food import into Gaza post 2006 ‘pull out’ was calculated down to the single calorie by the IDF to ensure near starvation level nutrition in Gaza population and to maximise the power the IDF had over all a the borders, sea and airspace. Israel created a concentration camp in 2006. That is all.

    • @machsimillian14
      @machsimillian14 2 месяца назад

      The ICJ advisory decision disagrees with your framing. ​@@Carla39894

  • @georgekraft1401
    @georgekraft1401 2 месяца назад +27

    Dear Atlantic. Inerviewer, Do you have any proof of Hamas "killing hostages"?

    • @brynawaldman5790
      @brynawaldman5790 Месяц назад +3

      Watch Oct 7 videos & see for yourself.

    • @adammurtadha1839
      @adammurtadha1839 Месяц назад +1

      Not a single one video. The Air Force killed their own hostages.

  • @ahmadali-pu5qn
    @ahmadali-pu5qn 2 месяца назад +3

    What an extraordinary interview

  • @carolynmullet1726
    @carolynmullet1726 2 месяца назад +10

    Very moving. Thank you.

  • @showmequick2245
    @showmequick2245 2 месяца назад +48

    **She is a retired IDF that is in an occupied land got abducted by the resistance** there I fixed the headline for you

  • @husniolama8283
    @husniolama8283 2 месяца назад +13

    Very honest, and courageous woman. Sorry for your loss, Liat. At least you have a choice to live on a stolen land (Nir Oz) or move back to your true home (USA). I wonder if you ever had asked yourself: May be I am living in a place that was owned by the grand parents of my guards (or captives, as some calls them) and was stolen from them. As you are a history teacher, I am sure you know that Nir Oz was part of the Arab state of Palestine in the UN Resolution 181 of 1947!

    • @shulamay
      @shulamay 2 месяца назад

      Why didn't the Arabs agree to that resolution? Why did they choose war instead?

    • @nancikuba42
      @nancikuba42 2 месяца назад

      @husniolama8232 If she is a historian, she should know that since the Arab Conquest, once a land is conquered that land is theirs. All of the Middle East is Arab land from that time forward. Shortly after Arabs converted to Islam. This piece of land called Israel is the only land that was taken back. Although Lebanon was predominately a Christian nation in the 70’s, it later became predominately Muslims.

    • @infinite8017
      @infinite8017 Месяц назад

      It would have stayed that way too if the surrounding Arab countries along with these Palestinians would not have waged a war against the other occupying peoples of the region at the time

  • @sarahfern7128
    @sarahfern7128 2 месяца назад +12

    The Warsaw Ghetto uprising is called an intifada in the Holocaust Museum in Israel.

  • @yamadakenji4143
    @yamadakenji4143 2 месяца назад +2

    This is very hartwarming. It shows there can be humane interaction between Israelis and Palestinians even in times of heightened military confrontations. This gives me hope for the future.

  • @kentclark9740
    @kentclark9740 2 месяца назад +5

    Israeli Jews and zionists will hate her for saying this stuff.

  • @kevinjenner9502
    @kevinjenner9502 2 месяца назад +30

    Guantanamo Bay, where individuals were held indefinitely, without charge, while simultaneously being tortured by the CIA…A Global Symbol of Injustice

    • @JuneBarbone
      @JuneBarbone 2 месяца назад +3

      "Were", correction, STILL HELD

    • @kevinjenner9502
      @kevinjenner9502 2 месяца назад +4

      The only individual to be prosecuted and imprisoned for the CIA Torture Program was the whistleblower himself, ex CIA agent John Kiriakou.

    • @trish5111
      @trish5111 2 месяца назад

      ​@@kevinjenner9502🤯

    • @AahFukIt
      @AahFukIt 2 месяца назад

      Still got around 32 detainees in Guantanamo bay prison.

  • @artemis7798
    @artemis7798 2 месяца назад +1

    When someone shows you a little tiny bit of mercy in a terrible situation, even if they caused the terrible situation, you feel thankful. It is a form of manipulation.

  • @Aruna37928
    @Aruna37928 2 месяца назад +7

    This was a great interview and Thank you so much for sharing your story. My deepest condolences. I just wish all the hostages had your experience.

    • @tethergobrrr
      @tethergobrrr 2 месяца назад +1

      Within the context of being held hostage the accounts of I’ve heard of their treatment has varied from as you’d expect to surprisingly good. (I’m only including the accounts I’ve heard, in the captive’s own voice, because I have no trust in the Israeli state.)

    • @trish5111
      @trish5111 2 месяца назад

      @@Aruna37928 my replies keep being deleted. No big suprise there

  • @inmyopinion651
    @inmyopinion651 2 месяца назад +6

    Fantastic interview.

  • @Sothgar
    @Sothgar 2 месяца назад +3

    Thank you for sharing!

  • @brujita788
    @brujita788 2 месяца назад +1

    Thanks for this interview. A very nice and transparent voice.

  • @sarahfern7128
    @sarahfern7128 2 месяца назад +2

    Do we know if the husband was killed by Hamas or, more likely, the IDF?

  • @azizahsattar444
    @azizahsattar444 2 месяца назад

    Thank you for this honest and truthful Lady. She sound incredible, peaceful and very humanely

  • @barryklarman2720
    @barryklarman2720 2 месяца назад +1

    As complicated and nuanced as this interview is it is important to realize this poor hostage’s experience and internalization of it is vastly different from the other hostages. Her consideration of moving to the US is despair at the situation sum total. It is impossible to make Hamas or Palestinian society at large share her vision and desire without a long stable period and deprogramming from years of ideological indoctrination.
    The complexity of the situation & people’s lives is so difficult. If only Palestinian leadership were willing to live next to Israel and accept its existence. I think a lot of the complexities could be worked out. Refusing to accept the existence of another people and country overrides all the other issues and creates its own wall. October 7 changed everything. What will happen to Gazans? This is a question that many nations need to help answer and support.

    • @findingfreedom-definingtru4818
      @findingfreedom-definingtru4818 Месяц назад

      Isn't is the other way around, that Israel is not acknowledging the existence of a Palestinian entity, land or people? If only Israeli would be less violent towards the people who lived there when they arrived, they could maybe expect some more goodwill. And don't the Gazans have a right to self determination? Many nations already spoke out in the UN meetings, if only the US and Israel, and their allies (which are relatively few) would comply with international law, that would alleviate the situation a LOT. But I believe Zionism is currently digging its own grave. Racism, apartheid, genocide, these are things that are generally not well regarded.

  • @raheem4real
    @raheem4real 2 месяца назад +1

    Intifada means a political uprising, ANY political uprising. The same word is used to describe the Jewish resistance against the Nazis right in the Arabic translations at the Holocaust museum.

  • @yasminachaouch-ramdane4561
    @yasminachaouch-ramdane4561 2 месяца назад +5

    I am so glad that the journalist brings the comparison between the cohabitation Gaza-Kibbutz and the recently released movie Holocaust

  • @sharkie2673
    @sharkie2673 2 месяца назад +2

    Its not the first hostage to say these things, (treatment while captive), perhaps her experience was divine intervention merely for the change in the narrative that's not indicative of the picture that's painted for the worldview for the Palestinian cause. Either way, she is alive to tell her and also their story..
    My Condolences to you and your family, i pray your husband Aiva Soul Rest In Eternal Peace
    From Almighty God we left, to him we eventually return 🤲🙏

  • @Claudia-cr2pm
    @Claudia-cr2pm 2 месяца назад +6

    This was so good for me to hear. I have felt such visceral anger towards israel and its citizens. I need to remember that we ALL have been lied to and manipulated by the powerful. Thank you so much for sharing your experience and helping to soften my heart. Keep sharing please.

  • @Gio.761
    @Gio.761 2 месяца назад

    Wonderful amazing interview ! Wishing you lady the best ! Honest talking no one is borne to be bad if you treat others like humans!

  • @sarahfern7128
    @sarahfern7128 2 месяца назад

    Mind blowing: they're human!

  • @findingfreedom-definingtru4818
    @findingfreedom-definingtru4818 Месяц назад +1

    Interesting and beautiful to hear such an unfiltered testimony. Interesting that Mrs. Atzili feels she didn't learn anything new from her extensive conversations with the Gazans, though her account seems to contradict that statement. Also interesting that she longs to be back at 1.5 miles from that dreaded fence and help rebuild her kibbutz, a place where there used to be a Palestinian village, before the hostile take-over in 1948. Also interesting, that she felt so peaceful waking up at night. Did the bombing only begin after she was released? Some of the released captives testified that the most scary thing about their captivity was, the ceaseless bombing and the fear to die under the IDF attack. I would love to know more about the kind of peace activism that was practiced in her kibbutz. It seems so odd to settle in a place that was taken so violently, erasing the Palestinian origin, and then to talk about peace, while the (descendants of) the Palestinians who used to live there are literally a few miles away, looking over that fence to see the land where they were falsely promised they could return. It sounds more like the situation in 'The zone of interest'. I wonder how loud the festival was, the night before the attack. Loud enough for the Gazans to enjoy..?

    • @infinite8017
      @infinite8017 Месяц назад

      I think you need another history lesson. If you live in the US you should for sure give your place of residence to a Native American. And I should get back my parent’s and in law’s homes in Poland, Russia, Iraq and Morocco. I do however have generations of immediate family in what was called Palestine by the British. So I guess that makes me Palestinian from the River to the Sea too!

    • @findingfreedom-definingtru4818
      @findingfreedom-definingtru4818 Месяц назад

      @@infinite8017 I do not live in the US and I never have. I agree, the colonial and racist past (and present) of the US is a very ugly one. It is no coincidence, in my opinion, that of all countries in the world, the US is now the greatest most unconditional ally an sponsor of Israel and its genocide. Meanwhile, being European, I am very aware that Europe is in the last few centuries' history, the cradle of all ugly imperialism, colonialism and racism. So I'm not condoning any of those historical horrors.
      If anyone, including your ancestors, moved voluntarily to another country, and respected the people and culture of the native people, that is a matter of personal choice, no? So I'm not sure if you are stating here that your Polish, Russian, Iraqi, Moroccan and Palestinian ancestors were all chased from their land by a colonial force..? I think the point is, if we want to learn from history and say things like 'never again', that should reflect on the behavior and policies in the present. Zionism in particular, is ironically a project that seems to have learned nothing in that respect.

  • @DavidAndrew-t3n
    @DavidAndrew-t3n 2 месяца назад

    Wow. An honest open interview on the Atlantic channel. Interesting

  • @leslie-annmills-gomez8763
    @leslie-annmills-gomez8763 2 месяца назад +4

    The facr she says Hamas doesn't care is so condescending. Hanas are Palestinians and the treatment perpetrated on Palestinians affect them. I didn't care for for the interviewee as I don't think she cares, it's still all about her

  • @drthomason7043
    @drthomason7043 2 месяца назад +9

    Thats the thing Pallestinians had only Palestine. How many Israelis have dual citizenship. Easy for you to say go into the World when israelis have sometimes centuries of connections to other parts of the world.

    • @shulamay
      @shulamay 2 месяца назад +2

      I'm not telling anyone to go anywhere else, but listen to what you're saying. Yes, my grandparents had citizenship in Europe. They had to flee Europe when Europe tried to exterminate them. These other countries didn't care about our connection to them then. We have nowhere to go.

    • @adamclevi
      @adamclevi 2 месяца назад

      Yah, we should all go back to Iraq and Libya and Yemen. Or, even better, we can go back to Poland where my family, after surviving the death camps, were slaughtered in their own homes when they tried to return.
      Everyone must understand.
      No. One. Is. Going. Anywhere.
      Not me. Not my Palestinian neighbours. Not the children of Gaza. And not the children of Kibbutz Nir Oz.
      No one.

    • @trish5111
      @trish5111 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@shulamaythen fight for a one state solution where everyone has equal rights.

    • @thegoodson9086
      @thegoodson9086 2 месяца назад +1

      @@trish5111A) the Palestinians don’t want that, stop putting words in their mouths B) Palestine was never a county , it was a British colony. There was never a point in time when a group of people who called themselves “Palestinians” ever had sovereignty over any land anywhere in the world

    • @raibilrei
      @raibilrei 2 месяца назад

      @@thegoodson9086 You absolutely sound like a person who doesn’t want it themselves.
      Maybe if Israel finally respects the Palestinians as human beings and is able to say sorry for the injustice they brought over them. And maybe when they negotiate not only to further humiliate the Palestinians but really try to find a just solution that includes international law and human rights, maybe then the Palestinians would want it.
      Unfortunately the Israeli governments sabotage every negotiations and Palestinian self determination, which shows me that your comment is only projection.
      I have come to the conclusion that it’s the Israelis, they don’t want.

  • @naymatunc-rc6vs
    @naymatunc-rc6vs 2 месяца назад +5

    So, they were so close to gazza that they can hear how gazza was b...ng while they were celebrating a festival

    • @shulamay
      @shulamay 2 месяца назад

      You're very confused.
      The bombing came after the pogrom in the festival and the kibutzim.

    • @naymatunc-rc6vs
      @naymatunc-rc6vs 2 месяца назад +3

      @@shulamay no,3 weeks before 7 oktober gazza was b....d 37 civilians and children lost their lives

    • @MelianResurrection
      @MelianResurrection 2 месяца назад

      @@naymatunc-rc6vs who’s genius idea was it to plan a music festival on the outskirts of a concentration camp? Believe it was the uncontested winner of the Darwin Awards 2023.
      Also they put the organisers of the Fire Festival to shame…this is how you plan a disaster event.

    • @trish5111
      @trish5111 2 месяца назад +3

      ​@@shulamaythere is bombing every few years. The Israeli Government refers to it as 'mowng the grass'.
      They see it as a deterrent but having your home bombed and family members killed tends to have the opposite effect.
      It reminds me of the abusive husband who uses coercive control and beats his wife from time to time to 'keep her in her place'.
      Some of those wives end up killing their husbands in their sleep, as they see no other way out.

    • @treesab
      @treesab 2 месяца назад +4

      ​@@trish5111Imagine multigenerations witnessing such abuse, a son, father, grandfather, great grandfather, all witnessing and suffering a lifetime of humiliation, no agency, no free will...

  • @Dench999or911
    @Dench999or911 2 месяца назад +3

    Very interesting interview. This conflict has been a mess for more than 80 years now. Time for both sides to come to the table and finally put this to an end. Sadly can’t see it happening any time soon

    • @shulamay
      @shulamay 2 месяца назад

      It would be sacrilege for them to come to an agreement.

    • @MelianResurrection
      @MelianResurrection 2 месяца назад

      @@Dench999or911 Zionism hijacked Judaism first and now ultra nationalist end-of-told cult have hijacked Zionism. In a few years all will look back and wonder how Israelis didn’t see that they were experiencing a collective paranoid psychosis!

    • @machsimillian14
      @machsimillian14 2 месяца назад

      Do you demand that sexual assault victims also negotiate their freedom?

    • @trish5111
      @trish5111 2 месяца назад +2

      H has ageeed to ceasefires etc but Israel does not and recently assasinated the main negotiator on the Palestinian side so what does that tell you

    • @trish5111
      @trish5111 2 месяца назад

      @@machsimillian14 you mean the rape of the Palestinian hostages in Israhell torture chambers, now even caught on camera, reported by your own doctors and media and previously documented for years ? Or the bad hasbara lies about Oct 7th that have been debunked over and over again ?

  • @tareqsaleh8404
    @tareqsaleh8404 2 месяца назад

    very honest and fair

  • @earthspirit516
    @earthspirit516 2 месяца назад

    My understanding is alot of people that died Oct 7th were intended to become hostages. They were commanded to come out of their houses to be taken into captivity. They were afraid, so Hamas set homes on fire to scare them out, and because they stayed inside they perished. Hostages were important to Hamas, so the more they took the more they could exchange. IDF caused many deaths by friendly fire due to the chaos and confusion of the attack and defense. Grateful for this interview.

    • @infinite8017
      @infinite8017 Месяц назад

      The IDF didn’t get there until 12 hrs later! Listen to the true accounts of survivors. Hamas filmed their own killings . There was no confusion there

  • @GianfreeZ
    @GianfreeZ 2 месяца назад +3

    Thank you Liat Beinin Atzili!

  • @markschwartzberg1681
    @markschwartzberg1681 2 месяца назад

    Wow! Powerful testimony

  • @stephaniechandler3842
    @stephaniechandler3842 2 месяца назад

    Just because she had a less horrific experience

  • @Afaq-vw6hm
    @Afaq-vw6hm 2 месяца назад +1

    INSIGHTFUL....First interview I heard from a hostage in detail. What I got from this is both sides have misunderstandings of the other....Both sides feel an infinity for the Land. War only makes both sides less amiable and more entrenched in their feelings. What strikes me as the people if the Kibutz are more sympathetic to the Palestinians some going as far as helping them and yet they were killed or injured. There are no easy answers

    • @trish5111
      @trish5111 2 месяца назад +2

      @@Afaq-vw6hm did they call for a one state solution and equal rights ? No. So still complicit.

    • @deborahdean8867
      @deborahdean8867 2 месяца назад

      Affinity? Palestinians owned their homes and farms and have been there for centuries. The Jews were ww2 refugees from Europe. and with British guns they stole house and farm so THEY would have a nice house. They did exactly what the nazis did to them. right away.

  • @ishi4real
    @ishi4real Месяц назад

    Her saying she didn’t learn anything from them but she’s sure they did from her…
    The way she describes their view of Israel sounds fabricated and cliche.
    The fact she thinks her colonial-settler connection to Palestine is comparable to the connection Palestinians have to their land…
    “Hamas is as responsible for this war as Israel”
    She’s kinda terrible actually.

  • @artemis7798
    @artemis7798 2 месяца назад

    Oh, dude, Biden is famously empathetic. No other leader does this anywhere, not just in Israel.

  • @mongobongo91
    @mongobongo91 2 месяца назад +2

    😂😂😂 "the president is famously wonderful at talking to people in deep grief." LOL! Actually its the opposite. Sounds like the meds were dialed in for this meeting.

  • @mammaliandischarger
    @mammaliandischarger 2 месяца назад +1

    The Atlantic is as reliable as rachel maddow. Nope!

  • @inkipinki8468
    @inkipinki8468 2 месяца назад

    She is American!

  • @infinite8017
    @infinite8017 Месяц назад

    Hmm.. what kind of house was she kept captive in? Was it one of the luxury villas because we saw they had those? She doesn’t talk about the conditions? Did she have running water? Where did they get educated as lawyers etc.. how did they communicate? In what language? How can you compare the fence between a concentration camp to a city governed by itself albeit by a terrorist organization . This is more like a gate between Mexico and the US. I find this interview very strange. Her husband was just killed by them?!?

  • @alisonyahna8041
    @alisonyahna8041 2 месяца назад

    Free Palestine, free the hostages

  • @llkoolbean4935
    @llkoolbean4935 Месяц назад

    See if you can interview a Palestinian hostage.

  • @happymusicschool-it1qc
    @happymusicschool-it1qc 2 месяца назад +1

    ❤️🇵🇸🍉✊️✌️🇮🇪🍉🇵🇸❤️

  • @annychest718
    @annychest718 2 месяца назад +1

    hc liar

  • @lisaschlussel4435
    @lisaschlussel4435 2 месяца назад +1

    Are we all forgetting the fact that she was held HOSTAGE and her husband was KILLED !! I’m sorry but these are not nice people just because they didn’t torture her. You’re all making it sound like she had a vacation in Gaza

  • @Carla39894
    @Carla39894 2 месяца назад +2

    I wonder in what language they talked. I don't believe that she is speaking all the truth

  • @kristyong4386
    @kristyong4386 2 месяца назад +4

    SHE READS AL JAZEERA... ENOUGH SAID 😂

    • @chiarayavhnoska966
      @chiarayavhnoska966 2 месяца назад +1

      I am sure Zionists and all kinds of white supremacists prefer the complete fabrications of the NYT , sporting a director who simply redefined journalism as telling tales, with evidence not mattering.

    • @rickdiggler9680
      @rickdiggler9680 2 месяца назад +5

      As opposed to what ? Msm is a joke

    • @kristyong4386
      @kristyong4386 2 месяца назад

      @rickdiggler9680 I agree.. MSM is a joke.. it's as anti Israel as Al Jazeera is.. MSM have their own agenda that isn't clear but we know Al Jazeeras problem.. they have a terrorist infestation... after all some of the Hamas work for them.

  • @nellaveselaya9476
    @nellaveselaya9476 2 месяца назад +3

    Stockholm syndrome?

    • @btsfan7564
      @btsfan7564 2 месяца назад +1

      She has humanity unlike many!

    • @littleflags
      @littleflags 2 месяца назад +1

      No.

  • @stephaniechandler3842
    @stephaniechandler3842 2 месяца назад

    Sorry but terrorists are being held out of Israel .There have been too many experiences that resulted in a need for a fence .They don’t want Jews there at all Just educate yourself about the Koran and what do the Palestinians support Hamas.

  • @kymclayton9416
    @kymclayton9416 2 месяца назад

    🙏🏻🇮🇱🇮🇱🙏🏻

  • @farooqahmed-md8fg
    @farooqahmed-md8fg 2 месяца назад +3

    How middle Eastern you all sound though?

    • @trish5111
      @trish5111 2 месяца назад

      😂

    • @djo6501
      @djo6501 2 месяца назад +2

      I was waiting for the Israeli, but I could only hear American voices. Is there an Israeli interview, or is it an American interview?

  • @missmelis7260
    @missmelis7260 2 месяца назад +7

    @richardmedhurst @tyt @msnbc

  • @asyamansurova9031
    @asyamansurova9031 2 месяца назад

    Beautiful, truthful and balanced interview. It’s saddening that people are dying in such conflicts