@@sway696 --- . . . AND THE MILITARY MAN is paid soldier's pay for the pleasure of serving Uncle Sam. I wish that military service were compulsory, so that every man can "get it out of his system" and not suffer John-Wayne regrets for the rest of his life, which would make him vulnerable to grifters selling "military style" training.
I was a Marine and went through boot camp in 1983. We got yelled at and did a lot of punishment calisthenics but there was a purpose to it and a plan. This stuff is just abuse dished out by insecure bullies reliving their military glory days and is completely pointless and purposeless. Abuse for abuse sake. A caricature or military training. And $18,000 for three days? What kind of idiot pays that kind of money for so little of value? Clearly these guys don't understand manhood and what it takes to be a decent man.
Honestly your last paragraph is it, and I don’t blame them because my gut feeling is few to none of these guys had balanced fathers and are going off popular entertainment and I think that includes the instructors. I remember an interview with a navy seal who said that BUDS itself seems chaotic but there is actually a very specific plan to it, in the same interview they discussed instructors deviating from the plan making it “tougher” and how bad that can be. It makes being a man way more narrow than it actually is. Toughness without prudence/common sense makes you a strong idiot. Without compassion it makes you a monster, shoot compassion without prudence makes you just a nice idiot. You need strength to tie it all together but it is about tying it together. It all goes together in order, you need all of it.
It's terrible with the historical context. He dipped out right after 9/11 happened, when we badly needed fighting men in Afghanistan and this "tough guy" ran the other way instead of supporting his supposed brothers.
So wait, lemme get this straight: I have more deployments than this guy, have both air assault and airborne badges, and this guy never went to the same war I ended up in nor even did any of the schools yet wants to be the "instructor"? And he wanted $18k for this bs per person?! Wtf?!
I know Seals shouldn't get the benefit of the doubt these days, but it's certainly possible that those guys saw a different version of the course than what it turned into
@@BlyGuy i kind of agree. Seems like the program is getting a lot more attention now due to these recent clips. Might have been less of a shit show a little while ago
the irony of the Air Wing Marine saying on camera he tried to kill all of them, while being named in a wrongful death suit over one of the guys that died during their "Program" is a different level of psychosis.
This is a way for rich dudes who were too afraid to enlist to feel like they could be real warriors without ever having to confront their own mortality. It's really sad.
Well maybe somebody wants to go through some training whatever. Being a war slave for banksters is not everybody's cup of tea. Some people aren't afraid they're just too smart to do it. Every war since 1913 it's been a war done for the Federal reserve in the people who control the Federal reserve who happened to wear little hats. And any fighting you've done for Uncle Sam has actually been for Uncle Shlomo. You've helped subjugate half the world 2 loan sharking buy these internationalist banksters, and then went and helped punish them when they wanted to break away and be free. About time that y'all hook up to the facts. It's sad that people got used. But us even sadder when you denigrate those who didn't do that. Name one war that we've been in where we were actually not the initial aggressor or part of the initial aggressor. Even world war II we goaded Japan on, in the zionists declared war on Germany before they ever agressed against anybody else, because the Germans kicked out the international bankers, and the degenerate pornographers, and the Bolsheviks. Get educated, Goy.
@@gravfielddrive I'm educated. I've read Smedley Butler. I know the reality of American imperialism. But these dudes are still idiots. This isn't training, it's three days of hazing for profit, and these dudes aren't going to learn anything.
short version of my longer comment: As a veteran, primarily in a non-combat role, I've been exposed to various training scenarios aimed at enhancing leadership skills and handling challenging situations. One crucial lesson I've learned is the importance of discerning when to push individuals and when to show compassion. Effective leadership involves more than just tough discipline; it requires understanding, empathy, and a clear sense of purpose beyond mere authority.
A lot of people think Basic is like Full Metal Jacket, getting yelled at and dressed down constantly. This guy is making money off of a bunch of gullible people and sending them through a 3 day course that is barely mock up of a SEAL selection course. These guys probably thought they were going in to get SEAL training, that comes after the rigors of making it through selection, and were most likely lied to.
I was already onboard, but the second you suggested something like running a marathon I was completely sold. You didn't take the opportunity to plug more of you own product, you were real. This is a good take about the whole situation imo.
makes me so happy many vets are exposing this scam, this is ridiculous. I highly doubt these men learned anything from this course , younger me would've signed up for this if I had the opportunity , now I'm happy to just finish my corpsman contract
I coach a few sports. Im ex army. Ive seen non combat guys come in and scream yell and have no purpose other than a power trip. I ask my kids to mentally push thru adversities, with repetition, focus, preparation And thru self study. I dont yell scream or degrade, but to see these guys is how i see some coaches and those kids coached like that dont become good people.
The entertainment industry in conjunction with the military recruitment business has convinced a lot of men that not having PTSD means you haven’t been through enough hardship to be a “real man.” Meanwhile, folks who suffer from this illness would give their left arm to not experience it. Men need to stop playing trauma Olympics with each other. It’s nothing but dick measuring by alternate means.
At 45 I retired and felt a little lost. I was out of shape physically and mentally. Watching channels like yours and other former special ops soldiers motivated me and I decided to do something about it. Running my first marathon at 46 year old gave me the confidence and motivation to push a little more. I then progressed to doing triathlons, first olympic distance, then half ironman distance and finally finishing the full ironman distance triathlon . Each progression boosted my confidence more and more and I must say after finishing the full ironman triathlon I was on a natural high for 6 months. The whole progression from 0 to running marathons to completing a full ironman took 8 months. I agree with you 100% that you don't need to pay people to scream at you and push you to a breaking point in 72 hours, get motivated, push yourself and reap the rewards like I did. Thanks to you kind sir and your fellow brethren for inspiring us 🙏🙏🙏
You got retire at 45 that awesome I am 46, hopefully I can retire before I turn 60. But I get how you felt after you retire, find something that makes you happy in life
@@gochi6542 this program is already like a cultish cash grab for guys Frat Boys that couldn't handle the Military, why would you encourage them to join another fake-tough Bro Cult aka Crossfit?🤣🤣🤣
Because they've mistaken pointless abuse with the very intentional program of deconstruction and subsequent reconstruction used by militaries around the globe. The former is just insecure men being berated by other insecure men and the latter takes a hell of a lot more than 3 days and has actual goals other than "endure abuse".
Real military training is not degradation. It’s also about learning new applicable skills. Nothing about what they are doing has benefits that can be used.
idk why they dont just sign up for mma or boxing, or travel somewhere by themselves, anything really. these guys just want to understand their souls but they lack all knowledge and conviction in what they already have inside them. its sad.
I don’t think the videos are on YT anymore but Don Shipply had a course he ran that lasted a week back in (I believe) 2014-2016. It was a perfect balance of challenge and encouragement and fun. It was like $2,000. He had other retired seals come help. They never screamed and acted like this.
I like that you brought up it takes years and seasoning. People all want the magic bullet and while I tried out for Selection and didn't make it, I was glad for the experience. Fate and deployments would remove other chances but I am proud of my experiences and always strive to do better. A lot of people will parcel, "I am military trained." I can tell you first hand while I was wicked with a long gun, even us light fighters do not get a lot of pistol training. I got more pistol training retired than I ever got in the service and that training and competency is on going. Appreciate your service Snake Eater.
Someone did die, and that is why they are being sued. I can admit I never served and I am a civilian. I admire our military and our veterans, god bless them. $18k for fake military boot camp that is insane.
Watching this and reflecting on this made me realize that many men join the military in order to feel more like a man. They feel that enduring abuse from other men makes them tougher. It’s kind of strange.
I remember reading about SAS selection and continuation training. The DS (directing staff) don't shout at the aspirants at all. They don't even wake them up in a morning. The recruits are expected to pull themselves through training. Any information that's needed for the next day is put up on a notice board. The recruits are expected to be totally self-sufficient, who have the inner discipline to do what's required. When they have a 40-50 mile hike across the Brecon Beacons the applicants aren't told what the time limit is. Every few miles they're met with one of the DS who will ask them some questions to assess whether they're capable of thinking clearly and logicaly even when exhausted. Seeing these chaps scream abuse at the people seems about as far from SF training as it can get.
Keep up the videos, and if I may say please feel free to even more directly address concerns you see from your point of view, because it is a privileged viewpoint that we all can learn a hell of a lot from.
I’ve had friends that have asked me to train them. I told them the same thing, I can’t do it in a few days. I workout every day and continue my training. I invited them to join me, and some did for a few days or a few weeks, but then I’m back to training by myself. No I didn’t charge them a cent.
This is just a symptom of the entire “vet bro” business that has flourished in the last 10+ years. It didn’t take long for shitbags to figure out that they could exploit the post-9/11 worship of the military in the US. Unfortunately you’ll keep seeing scams perpetuated by vets (and non vets) that promise to make you into a “real man” until it becomes acceptable to call the military out on its bullshit. It’s not the yellow brick road to manhood that it’s made out to be.
Sir, having served as a reservist that stationed at Ft. Lewis and getting the opportunity to meet some of you high speed, zero drag, professional door kickers among the Ramger Bat. And the SF Group. Where I met guys who were the most professional and definitional exemplary members of the military, they all said exactly the same thing. As a light on the right, totally average whiskey there for m6 phase 2, all I can say is there is no way, shape, or form that you can just make 3 days of what these dudes are paying for. TRADOC is no bullshit and without question, thank you for doing the work that made you part of the fraction of service members who can get through the pipeline. Hooah.
Good post! Real Ranger and Special Forces training includes learning combat skills (tactics, weapons, communication, etc.). The people at MDK are only getting hazed and harassed.
I’m a 10 year veteran of the reserves. One tour in an FRST in Afghanistan, EMT,RN on the civilian side. It’s the professional mindset that separates pros from wannabe badasses. Being in for 4-6 years makes you a decent soldier, but the professional soldier is a gradual transition of mindset. It can’t be taught in a course, but is a careful pairing of education with real-life experience
This makes me proud and respect my Dad even more. I can't imagine being successful enough to burn 18 grand in 3 days with no garuntee of "graduation" and still have no self esteem. I hope those guys find what they're seeking and raise their sons.
I don’t understand why these men feel the need to do this ? Paying almost 20k for this is crazy. If they wanted to feel like more of a man why don’t they just do it themselves
I contacted that one "the experience" I think. They called me and said $12k, I said I'm good. I'm a Marine infantry veteran, but wanted to see about this. They were texting me calling me a "pussy" and all that.
I love this! I'm going through the process now. My goal is to go to selection after my deployment. I've only been at my unit for 6 months and its my goal to be an operator. I want to experience big army before going to selection with NTC under my belt and a deployment rotation.
Seems to me you’d be better off in a program that has a PT and basic firearms prerequisite and are expected to be their at a minimum on your own. Then when you get there you spend a several days to a week learning how to shoot, move, communicate, field hikes, survival, land navigation etc.
Where did you see they are shutting down because their web site is still active & have classes sold out for June and even have a class going on this weekend?
That’s not enough time to train any civilian without a base line of training. Every basic is at least 8 weeks long. 3 days is how long it takes people to learn how to put a uniform on. Hahaha, it’s cringe and makes military guys look bad. 🤦🏾♂️
Basic training in the military also teaches combat skills (weapons, first aid, navigation, etc.). This is just hazing by washed up veterans who overcharge gullible men.
Schofield’s Definition of Discipline “The discipline which makes the soldiers of a free country reliable in battle is not to be gained by harsh or tyrannical treatment. On the contrary, such treatment is far more likely to destroy than to make an army. It is possible to impart instruction and to give commands in such a manner and such a tone of voice to inspire in the soldier no feeling but an intense desire to obey, while the opposite manner and tone of voice cannot fail to excite strong resentment and a desire to disobey. The one mode or the other of dealing with subordinates springs from a corresponding spirit in the breast of the commander. He who feels the respect which is due to others cannot fail to inspire in them regard for himself, while he who feels, and hence manifests, disrespect toward others, especially his inferiors, cannot fail to inspire hatred against himself.” Major General John M. Schofield Address to the Corps of Cadets, U.S. Military Academy August 11, 1879
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As a retired Veteran O3E, this is really embarrassing to watch.
Same here
Paying $18K for some shit you can do for free is crazy.
--- THEREIN IS THE GREAT, GREAT DIFFERENCE . . . between "a patriot" and a military man.
@@marianotorrespico2975yep the military man has to follow orders. Even ones he knows are bullsh!t.🤷♂️
@@sway696 --- . . . AND THE MILITARY MAN is paid soldier's pay for the pleasure of serving Uncle Sam. I wish that military service were compulsory, so that every man can "get it out of his system" and not suffer John-Wayne regrets for the rest of his life, which would make him vulnerable to grifters selling "military style" training.
@@sway696Servicemen are trained to disobey illegal orders
Yep
I was a Marine and went through boot camp in 1983. We got yelled at and did a lot of punishment calisthenics but there was a purpose to it and a plan. This stuff is just abuse dished out by insecure bullies reliving their military glory days and is completely pointless and purposeless. Abuse for abuse sake. A caricature or military training.
And $18,000 for three days? What kind of idiot pays that kind of money for so little of value? Clearly these guys don't understand manhood and what it takes to be a decent man.
Honestly your last paragraph is it, and I don’t blame them because my gut feeling is few to none of these guys had balanced fathers and are going off popular entertainment and I think that includes the instructors. I remember an interview with a navy seal who said that BUDS itself seems chaotic but there is actually a very specific plan to it, in the same interview they discussed instructors deviating from the plan making it “tougher” and how bad that can be.
It makes being a man way more narrow than it actually is. Toughness without prudence/common sense makes you a strong idiot. Without compassion it makes you a monster, shoot compassion without prudence makes you just a nice idiot. You need strength to tie it all together but it is about tying it together. It all goes together in order, you need all of it.
Or most likely yall didnt really think that reality show was real😅- semper fi
Boot camp in military also teaches combat skills (weapons, first aid, etc.). This video shows BS hazing and no real learning.
I couldn’t say it better myself. There is no lessons or learning. It’s just hazing. So weird that people are willing to pay for this.
When you WERE a Marine, right? That’s fine. Screw Chesty, I guess 🤷♂️.
Angry Cops did an excellent deep dive. He destroyed that bald guy that did 4 years and got out in 2001. Called him a coward 😂
It's terrible with the historical context. He dipped out right after 9/11 happened, when we badly needed fighting men in Afghanistan and this "tough guy" ran the other way instead of supporting his supposed brothers.
@@DontMessWithCaesarto be fair he was like a mechanic bro I’m sure they made it without him
So wait, lemme get this straight: I have more deployments than this guy, have both air assault and airborne badges, and this guy never went to the same war I ended up in nor even did any of the schools yet wants to be the "instructor"? And he wanted $18k for this bs per person?! Wtf?!
I used to listen to the podcasts from former SEALS Ray Care, Jay Redman, Mark Divine; they all endorsed the MDK project.
What a bunch of scammers.
I know Seals shouldn't get the benefit of the doubt these days, but it's certainly possible that those guys saw a different version of the course than what it turned into
Unfortunately
@@BlyGuy i kind of agree. Seems like the program is getting a lot more attention now due to these recent clips. Might have been less of a shit show a little while ago
@@BlyGuythey didn't start how they ended up that's for sure
They probably getting a cut.
18k to get the abusive father experience 🥴
Just give me 10k and I'll give you the absent father experience.
the irony of the Air Wing Marine saying on camera he tried to kill all of them, while being named in a wrongful death suit over one of the guys that died during their "Program" is a different level of psychosis.
Oh, THAT will be presented during the trial.
Jake Zweig said it best. If you want some grit, go do some construction for a Summer. That’ll do more for you than this course ever will.
So true!
And you’ll get paid for it 😂
Yup or get a moving job
But these are CEO comfy business men who are rich. They can't leave their.jobs for construction.
@@zbr30ait’s hard if you’re physically weak
These guys should be grateful they have 18k to blow on a 3 day scam camp in the first place . Everyone else is living paycheck to paycheck
This is a way for rich dudes who were too afraid to enlist to feel like they could be real warriors without ever having to confront their own mortality. It's really sad.
Well maybe somebody wants to go through some training whatever. Being a war slave for banksters is not everybody's cup of tea. Some people aren't afraid they're just too smart to do it. Every war since 1913 it's been a war done for the Federal reserve in the people who control the Federal reserve who happened to wear little hats. And any fighting you've done for Uncle Sam has actually been for Uncle Shlomo. You've helped subjugate half the world 2 loan sharking buy these internationalist banksters, and then went and helped punish them when they wanted to break away and be free. About time that y'all hook up to the facts. It's sad that people got used. But us even sadder when you denigrate those who didn't do that. Name one war that we've been in where we were actually not the initial aggressor or part of the initial aggressor. Even world war II we goaded Japan on, in the zionists declared war on Germany before they ever agressed against anybody else, because the Germans kicked out the international bankers, and the degenerate pornographers, and the Bolsheviks. Get educated, Goy.
@@gravfielddrive I'm educated. I've read Smedley Butler. I know the reality of American imperialism. But these dudes are still idiots. This isn't training, it's three days of hazing for profit, and these dudes aren't going to learn anything.
Bro your channel has gotten better and better. I think you’re unintentionally a funny dude. Continue making content at the CYCLIC rate.
I appreciate that
It’s crazy you’ll pay 18k but won’t go for a 18k signing bonuses for the same experience plus a life time change
These guys obviously have careers already if they can afford to spend 18k on something like this. They are also in their 30s.
You could join reserve or national guard
Almost nobody wants
to work for this crooked
@ss government in 2024.
Get a wish. Those days
are gone.
Sh★t is embarrassing to all veterans who served 🤦🏻♂️
Yep
I was an Army Infantry Drill and would never have behaved or allowed my BBs to have behaved like that.
Same here, Big Drill. These guys have NO idea.
short version of my longer comment:
As a veteran, primarily in a non-combat role, I've been exposed to various training scenarios aimed at enhancing leadership skills and handling challenging situations. One crucial lesson I've learned is the importance of discerning when to push individuals and when to show compassion. Effective leadership involves more than just tough discipline; it requires understanding, empathy, and a clear sense of purpose beyond mere authority.
A lot of people think Basic is like Full Metal Jacket, getting yelled at and dressed down constantly. This guy is making money off of a bunch of gullible people and sending them through a 3 day course that is barely mock up of a SEAL selection course. These guys probably thought they were going in to get SEAL training, that comes after the rigors of making it through selection, and were most likely lied to.
I was already onboard, but the second you suggested something like running a marathon I was completely sold. You didn't take the opportunity to plug more of you own product, you were real. This is a good take about the whole situation imo.
makes me so happy many vets are exposing this scam, this is ridiculous. I highly doubt these men learned anything from this course , younger me would've signed up for this if I had the opportunity , now I'm happy to just finish my corpsman contract
I coach a few sports. Im ex army. Ive seen non combat guys come in and scream yell and have no purpose other than a power trip. I ask my kids to mentally push thru adversities, with repetition, focus, preparation
And thru self study.
I dont yell scream or degrade, but to see these guys is how i see some coaches and those kids coached like that dont become good people.
I train Brazilians jiujitsu. These guys would not last a month in the gym. Theu would get submityed so fast
When you think having PTSD makes you strong you know you're fucked.
The entertainment industry in conjunction with the military recruitment business has convinced a lot of men that not having PTSD means you haven’t been through enough hardship to be a “real man.” Meanwhile, folks who suffer from this illness would give their left arm to not experience it. Men need to stop playing trauma Olympics with each other. It’s nothing but dick measuring by alternate means.
They can't have PTSD because none of them saw any combat or even deployed
At 45 I retired and felt a little lost. I was out of shape physically and mentally. Watching channels like yours and other former special ops soldiers motivated me and I decided to do something about it. Running my first marathon at 46 year old gave me the confidence and motivation to push a little more. I then progressed to doing triathlons, first olympic distance, then half ironman distance and finally finishing the full ironman distance triathlon . Each progression boosted my confidence more and more and I must say after finishing the full ironman triathlon I was on a natural high for 6 months. The whole progression from 0 to running marathons to completing a full ironman took 8 months. I agree with you 100% that you don't need to pay people to scream at you and push you to a breaking point in 72 hours, get motivated, push yourself and reap the rewards like I did.
Thanks to you kind sir and your fellow brethren for inspiring us 🙏🙏🙏
You got retire at 45 that awesome I am 46, hopefully I can retire before I turn 60.
But I get how you felt after you retire, find something that makes you happy in life
All great points.
Their course is like a parody of what they think civilians think military training is.
Yep
@@GreenBeretChroniclessay yep one more fucking time I’m gonna smack ya change your vocabulary
My brother, that cap visor bend 😂😂😂🔥🔥🔥
$18k for 3 days of hazing with a “60%” attrition rate??? GTFO 😤
Funny thing is this old man has never seen combat and served pre 9/11. Thinks he’s the hardest marine out.
I was just an 88m. Thank you for speaking on this topic. Most of us lack the firsthand knowledge to take these people down. We need more vets like you
Thank you for being a total Chad and giving people this great advice. !
I get more out of my dominatrix for a lot less money.
Hahah
@@GreenBeretChronicles Give me a dominatrix with a riding crop over that B.S. any day.
😂😂😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😂Amen....If I wanted some one to take my money I'd go back to my ex
18K in joining a credible BJJ Gym sure would be a better investment in oneself🙄😬
Joining a crossfit gym program would cost less and would be more beneficial. These men’s insecurities were preyed upon. Damn shameless
@@gochi6542 this program is already like a cultish cash grab for guys Frat Boys that couldn't handle the Military, why would you encourage them to join another fake-tough Bro Cult aka Crossfit?🤣🤣🤣
Great channel/post, 10:17 is a great point thanks for bringing this type of info to the conversation.
Why would someone pay 18 thousand dollars to get yelled at and treated like a nobody is ridiculous
Because they've mistaken pointless abuse with the very intentional program of deconstruction and subsequent reconstruction used by militaries around the globe. The former is just insecure men being berated by other insecure men and the latter takes a hell of a lot more than 3 days and has actual goals other than "endure abuse".
Who has fucking 18 thousand dollars in the first place
many likely got scammed by thinking is a legitimate program to build confidence.
This is the legitimate operator and a real man. Humble, down to the earth, but still deadly asf. Much respect 👍🏻
I've listened to 1000 different people IRL and on the internet shit talk these guys, and it hasn't gotten any less funny haha
Just truth here
Real military training is not degradation. It’s also about learning new applicable skills. Nothing about what they are doing has benefits that can be used.
The ceo isn’t even military he’s just a rich guy who acts like he operates haha
I dont remember my DS throwing little hissy fits like that dude at the beginning.
Mine did then he got replaced
Dan Bilzerian would love that job.
Love you bro! Real Talk on these assholes out here trying to scam thousands of dollars out of people striving to evolve and better themselves!
Thanks
idk why they dont just sign up for mma or boxing, or travel somewhere by themselves, anything really. these guys just want to understand their souls but they lack all knowledge and conviction in what they already have inside them. its sad.
Man this was a great video! 100% agree with you
Good commentary!
This is a joke, makin all branches feel embarrassed.😢
I don’t think the videos are on YT anymore but Don Shipply had a course he ran that lasted a week back in (I believe) 2014-2016. It was a perfect balance of challenge and encouragement and fun. It was like $2,000. He had other retired seals come help. They never screamed and acted like this.
Don Shipley you say?!?!… he’s a known phony SEAL. I verified him.
Thank You for making this video 🙏
My pleasure 😊
$18K for that garbage. Bro learn some SCARS for way less.
Yep
I like that you brought up it takes years and seasoning. People all want the magic bullet and while I tried out for Selection and didn't make it, I was glad for the experience. Fate and deployments would remove other chances but I am proud of my experiences and always strive to do better. A lot of people will parcel, "I am military trained." I can tell you first hand while I was wicked with a long gun, even us light fighters do not get a lot of pistol training. I got more pistol training retired than I ever got in the service and that training and competency is on going.
Appreciate your service Snake Eater.
I liked the Go Ruck Tough event. 12 hours, 20 miles. Very chill but tough. $125. Very focused on teamwork building.
It's like "Military Training by Jason Blaha".
A program for people who "almost" join the USMC
Got damn bro that brim is in super saiyan mode.
Someone did die, and that is why they are being sued. I can admit I never served and I am a civilian. I admire our military and our veterans, god bless them. $18k for fake military boot camp that is insane.
If you want the real thing, get a NSW contract, or an 18X! This guy isn't teaching at all.
Agreed
Usually, most of these guys are up in age. I'm not sure of everyone in the Clio, but it was mentioned that they're business owners.
Watching this and reflecting on this made me realize that many men join the military in order to feel more like a man. They feel that enduring abuse from other men makes them tougher. It’s kind of strange.
I remember reading about SAS selection and continuation training. The DS (directing staff) don't shout at the aspirants at all. They don't even wake them up in a morning.
The recruits are expected to pull themselves through training. Any information that's needed for the next day is put up on a notice board. The recruits are expected to be totally self-sufficient, who have the inner discipline to do what's required.
When they have a 40-50 mile hike across the Brecon Beacons the applicants aren't told what the time limit is. Every few miles they're met with one of the DS who will ask them some questions to assess whether they're capable of thinking clearly and logicaly even when exhausted.
Seeing these chaps scream abuse at the people seems about as far from SF training as it can get.
This was a great video brotha! Through & Through , Salute!
Appreciate that
You just affirmed my thoughts on these programs. There are much better ways to spend your time and money to better yourself.
Thanks to this mind-opening podcast. All respect.
Keep up the videos, and if I may say please feel free to even more directly address concerns you see from your point of view, because it is a privileged viewpoint that we all can learn a hell of a lot from.
This for the dudes who "almost joined"
I’ve had friends that have asked me to train them. I told them the same thing, I can’t do it in a few days. I workout every day and continue my training. I invited them to join me, and some did for a few days or a few weeks, but then I’m back to training by myself. No I didn’t charge them a cent.
The guy who runs it isn’t even a veteran 😂 and the bald guy that acts the craziest was a pre 9/11 marine and never deployed lol
This is just a symptom of the entire “vet bro” business that has flourished in the last 10+ years. It didn’t take long for shitbags to figure out that they could exploit the post-9/11 worship of the military in the US. Unfortunately you’ll keep seeing scams perpetuated by vets (and non vets) that promise to make you into a “real man” until it becomes acceptable to call the military out on its bullshit. It’s not the yellow brick road to manhood that it’s made out to be.
You are Awesome Brother. Very knowledgeable.
Ray care and nick koumalatsos comes to mind
Yep
Sir, having served as a reservist that stationed at Ft. Lewis and getting the opportunity to meet some of you high speed, zero drag, professional door kickers among the Ramger Bat. And the SF Group. Where I met guys who were the most professional and definitional exemplary members of the military, they all said exactly the same thing. As a light on the right, totally average whiskey there for m6 phase 2, all I can say is there is no way, shape, or form that you can just make 3 days of what these dudes are paying for. TRADOC is no bullshit and without question, thank you for doing the work that made you part of the fraction of service members who can get through the pipeline. Hooah.
Good post! Real Ranger and Special Forces training includes learning combat skills (tactics, weapons, communication, etc.). The people at MDK are only getting hazed and harassed.
I’m a 10 year veteran of the reserves. One tour in an FRST in Afghanistan, EMT,RN on the civilian side. It’s the professional mindset that separates pros from wannabe badasses. Being in for 4-6 years makes you a decent soldier, but the professional soldier is a gradual transition of mindset. It can’t be taught in a course, but is a careful pairing of education with real-life experience
This makes me proud and respect my Dad even more. I can't imagine being successful enough to burn 18 grand in 3 days with no garuntee of "graduation" and still have no self esteem. I hope those guys find what they're seeking and raise their sons.
Well put
Awesome video as always 🙏🏼🇺🇲
Thanks 👍
As an NCO, I always believed that if all I did was yelled then I had lost control of that training environment.
I don’t understand why these men feel the need to do this ? Paying almost 20k for this is crazy. If they wanted to feel like more of a man why don’t they just do it themselves
Best breakdown I’ve seen of one of these courses
They’re out there
I am so addicted to these videos
Great content Bro! DOL
Appreciate it!
18k what a SCAM😮
These guys can literally ask their friends to just yell at them for free while working out in a park for free lol
If they wanted this experience they could have just spent a week in the house I grew up in as a kid 😂
This angry little man leading the event wasn’t event infantry he was an airplane mechanic I believe. Yet he loves yelling like he’s some badass.
What a waste of money
I contacted that one "the experience" I think. They called me and said $12k, I said I'm good. I'm a Marine infantry veteran, but wanted to see about this. They were texting me calling me a "pussy" and all that.
Spot on!
the curve on that cap is nasty
Jay - someone did die AND they’re getting sued.
Ok wow
Is there any additional information about the lawsuit against MDK?
There's no news about it and the page still running.
I got paid to go to boot camp...
Did you ever watch The Unit with Dennis Haysbert? I think it would be interesting to watch you analyze/comment on some of those episodes.
I love this! I'm going through the process now. My goal is to go to selection after my deployment. I've only been at my unit for 6 months and its my goal to be an operator. I want to experience big army before going to selection with NTC under my belt and a deployment rotation.
Love this? MDK is not a true military experience.
This was a great video
Well said vet
Seems to me you’d be better off in a program that has a PT and basic firearms prerequisite and are expected to be their at a minimum on your own. Then when you get there you spend a several days to a week learning how to shoot, move, communicate, field hikes, survival, land navigation etc.
Yep
your ball cap is precisely as motivated as I would expect any self respecting Green Beret to have
That Yarborough in the background....🤘🏼
Where did you see they are shutting down because their web site is still active & have classes sold out for June and even have a class going on this weekend?
Call of duty fucked the world up. Everyone seems to be a "shooter" these days
Do you even lift bro
Question sir. Any good books on human psychology you recommend? Since you said you understand it
That marine never deployed 😂
How can I physically prepare for sapper school please 🙏🏾
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That’s not enough time to train any civilian without a base line of training. Every basic is at least 8 weeks long. 3 days is how long it takes people to learn how to put a uniform on. Hahaha, it’s cringe and makes military guys look bad. 🤦🏾♂️
Basic training in the military also teaches combat skills (weapons, first aid, navigation, etc.). This is just hazing by washed up veterans who overcharge gullible men.
My boss talks to me like this but he pays me
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Schofield’s Definition of Discipline
“The discipline which makes the soldiers of a free country reliable in battle is not to be gained by harsh or tyrannical treatment. On the contrary, such treatment is far more likely to destroy than to make an army. It is possible to impart instruction and to give commands in such a manner and such a tone of voice to inspire in the soldier no feeling but an intense desire to obey, while the opposite manner and tone of voice cannot fail to excite strong resentment and a desire to disobey. The one mode or the other of dealing with subordinates springs from a corresponding spirit in the breast of the commander. He who feels the respect which is due to others cannot fail to inspire in them regard for himself, while he who feels, and hence manifests, disrespect toward others, especially his inferiors, cannot fail to inspire hatred against himself.”
Major General John M. Schofield
Address to the Corps of Cadets, U.S. Military Academy
August 11, 1879
Embarrassing to watch. And the "Marine instructor" was actually a pogue when he was in 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️