THE END OF AN ERA - LOTUS EXIGE, EVORA & ELISE - Have Lotus made their biggest mistake EVER?
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- Опубликовано: 28 июн 2024
- The Lotus Elise, Exige and Evora are all gone! It is the end of an era, in this short documentry style episode we experience these cars and chat to real life owners of the cars and see what they think about Lotus's future direction! Let us know what you think in the comments below. Thanks for watching! Filmed and edited by Adam Green.
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As someone who has to drive 400+ miles to visit family on the weekends I just adore my Lotus Evora S, no other Lotus could've made these long travels possible with being as comfortable. Ofc it's not as light as an Elise or Exige but it handles brilliantly and still feels like a Lotus.
The Emira will probably be a worthy successor, only weighing 100 something pounds more. For the Exige and Elise, I am faithful that they will find a way to make a light electric sportscar. Who knows, maybe Lotus will pave the way with a new technology that saves weight for future EVs, cause imo that is desperately needed. 2 tons of steel barreling down highways with 1000+ horsepower and insufficient brakes for that amount of speed can only end in calamity.
For the SUV, its probably gonna be a Lynk Co with Lotus Badges and some fancy footwork. Hopefully they'll sell well enough to fund the more "Lotus" cars of the company ;)
Hi Mars, thanks for the comment 🤗 and a great comment too, agree with all of your points. The evora is incredible. We have another video with an Evora VS … coming out soon. But such an incredible car and definitely the most comfiest lol. I do hope that when they are finished with the SUV, that they will focus their efforts on their core values and also bring an affordable option like they did with the Elise. We will have to wait and see. Thanks so much for chatting 👍🏽
Great video! I think you’ve captured the fundamental crisis approaching for existing Lotus owners - nothing in the new Lotus range can replace the cars that they made up to 2021. The new cars may be great in their own ways but they will appeal to a very different audience. For many reasons it’s not viable for Lotus to keep making the old cars - emissions, availability of engines, high manufacturing and service costs etc, etc. So unless Lotus is to fade into obscurity they have to reinvent themselves as a more mainstream manufacturer. Such is life.
Thanks for the comment Peter 🤗 well said, I think you have captured that perfectly. Thanks for the positive feedback and chatting 👍🏽
I think the evora is the only one with a proper replacement.
Rip the good lotus. I’m just happy my dad found a good s3 Elise (2019) with 1100 miles. Probably the last chance we had before they started going for like 10k more
My favorite Lotus is my current one and I will NEVER sell it: Exige Cup 430 Type 25 (#8 of 25)
Wow that’s Awsome, thanks for leaving us a comment and chatting with us. You have a great car there 👍🏽
Still got my s1 Elise 18 years later ,that tells you everything you need to know about owning a lotus ..
Thanks for the comment 🤗 love it, I bet you enjoy it, hold on to it and never let go. Thanks for chatting 👍🏽
Truly A Timeless Classic and Experience there will never be another car made like it again... I love my Elise 250cup and A Proud owner of that, can't wait to get back home and go for a drive..
Thanks for the comment 🤗 you are absolutely right. I bet, these cars are great fun and lotus lovers appreciate what they are all about. Thanks for chatting 👍🏽
Love this format! I like how you get owners to talk about their cars and content on the car makers too!
Ah thank you. Really appreciate the positive feedback 🤗
This was a bitter-sweet episode as a family with 2 Lotus. Your guests and their cars were brilliant. Keep up the great work, cheers from Oz 🇦🇺
Thank you so much for the comment and nice feedback. Appreciate you taking the time to leave us a comment. Thanks for chatting 👍🏽
As a V6 Exige owner i enjoyed the film. 3 nice cars in 3 great colours. 👍
Awsome, thanks Dave for taking the time to write us a comment 🤗
Wow! What an amazing episode! So much work has gone into this and it shows, how are you guys not on TV? I remember seeing the lotus Elise , and thinking how unique they were back in the day. Sad to see them discontinue , but again this episode is up there , the location is stunning! Great work CCTV!
Thanks for the comment Justin 🤗 and positive feedback so glad you liked the episode 👍🏽
Love my Lotus Evora GT in the States. I've done some mods on it, and it is very close in performance to the Exige 410 sport with the advantages of the Evora. It doesn't get any better.
Yesssss, I love it when we hear from lotus owners on this video. Your car sounds Awsome. Thanks for sharing. They are very special cars 🤗
Amazing episode. Love the drone shots and the story created 💛💚🧡
Thank you so much 🤗
I have an Exige Cup 430, an Evora 400, still looking for an Elise 250... ...Lotus holy trinity
Wow that is a collection! 😍 thanks for sharing with us 🤗
Lotus will likely see an increase in sales with there new models given how heavy and tech laden they have made them. The opposite of what Lotus was always about. The Chinese era of Lotus doesn't intrest me at all. I'll stick with my Exige.
Thanks for the comment Blake 🤗 I think a lot of owners would agree with you. Unless they bring out something which reflects the core values of the Colin chapman brand. We will have to wait and see. Thanks for chatting 👍🏽
Enjoyed this video! Nice work. Might just have to go for a drive in my Lotus today 😜🙈
Awsome thanks Charlie 🤗 yes do it, those cars are incredible 👌🏽
I just rented and drove a 2011 Lotus Evora across Colorado 1000 miles … it’s literally heartbreaking leaving it behind. Driving a Lotus changed me as a driver forever!
Ah wow that’s sounds Awsome. Sounds like you had a great time. They are so much fun. Thanks for sharing with us🤗
Cant wait for the sun to shine. I bought a 410 last year, epic times.
That’s Awsome. I bet you have such a blast with that. Appreciate you taking the time to leave us a comment 🤗
Great episode. We really enjoyed this🏎
Aww thank you so much 🤗
Great video - especially as its shot in my back yard!
Thanks for the comment Andrew. Appreciate the feedback 🤗
I started looking for my Elise S2 111S about a year ago, before they announced that they'd stop production. I chose that particular model because it was the last Elise that was closest to the original concept of the Elise without being an S1. The K-series 160hp engine pulls well low down and sounds gruffy compared to the Toyota engine. It is also devoid of any assists or modes.
What I feel was missed in this episode in terms of why I wouldn't go near an electric version of these cars is the mechanical aspect of ICE powered cars with manual gearboxes. Stick, not paddles. The reward of a perfect heel-toe downshift can't be replicated in an electric anything and there are no crutches. Either you have the ability to drive it quickly or you don't, the car won't help you so when you attain that ability you know you are a better driver. You can do something you couldn't before and not everyone can do. It's rewarding.
Everything that makes you addicted to driving these machines can't be quantified like top speed or acceleration. The cockpit and low vantage point is an experience I didn't even get in a Ferrari 458 or McLaren520s. They were too civilized.
As these guys said, just get one and keep it going!
Thanks so much for the comment 🤗 your totally right. You will not be able to get that experience in an electric car. These cars are just simply so special. That’s why we wanted to make this episode with real life owners that adore the core values of what Colin chapman stood for. Thanks for chatting 👍🏽
Great work on this guys
Thanks so much Martin. 🤗
Well shot video, enjoyed that. Totally understand the route Lotus are going to survive but please give us a lightweight sports car for the average working person.
Thanks for the comment and feedback 🤗 totally agree, I hope they offer an affordable option like they did with the Elise. Thanks for chatting 👍🏽
It's heart-breaking. Sometimes I wish the Elise/Exige or Espirit could be like the VW Golf, it's always there in the manufacturer's line-up but it would get suitably upgraded and moved with the time. Perhaps one day they would bring one of the platforms back.........for now, I will weep quietly in a corner.
Totally agree with you there. That’s why we wanted to make this piece of content so they never get lost. Personally I think they could of kept the Elise going since it did so much for them and still allows fans to come in at a good price. We can only wait to see what they do in the future. Thanks for taking the time to leave us a comment and chat 🤗
I agree with you on every point. I believe that Chinese owners have never really understood the 'Lotus spirit' that drives every Lotus owner. Their intention is probably to exploit a famous brand in order to flood the market with a 'mass' product, otherwise how do you explain the expected numbers for Emira? Unfortunately, although the Emira is aesthetically pleasing, its numbers say that it is heavy, underpowered and too expensive for the American market, which I assume is their main target. If I were American, why should I choose an Emira when I can buy a Corvette that is much more powerful, aesthetically pleasing, part of the national tradition and doesn't cost more? Anyway, I consider myself lucky to have been able to buy an Exige 430 Cup before the end of this magnificent adventure. The driving sensations are and always will be unique.
Thanks so much for your comment Stefano, we can tell you are big lotus enthusiast. It’s great to hear from passionate lotus owners. I just hope Geeley at some point in the future create an affordable lotus car that sticks to the original core values. Amazing cars, I can’t believe they didn’t keep one of these three in production. Thanks for chatting 👍🏽
The corvette isn't really a rival. They're going against Caymans
The Emira is almost identical to an Evora under it's reskin, and has the same supercharged V6 engine. Unless you *choose* to buy it with a crappy Merc 4pot. If they invested in a decent gearbox it would compete with pretty much anything because that engine is easily good for 500+ bhp.
@@fredmercury1314 it isn't almost identical at all. Nearly every component is different. Literally the engine and the gearbox are the only things on the whole car that are the same
@@TheHesK9 I don't buy that for a second. I've seen the chassis. They may have tweaked something but it's almost identical.
I've owned an S1 Esprit for 15 years but keep looking at the Elise to keep it company...
Thanks for the comment 🤗 that’s really cool, what colour is your Esprit? I think getting an Elise would be a great pair up. Thanks for chatting 👍🏽
Great video. 👍 For me it's the Exige RGB 😁
Thanks for the positive feedback 🤗 great choice 👌🏽
Ending of the current Lotus range is the end of an epoch. Lotus I suspect will never make a car again weighing less than 1000Kg & the Emira at 1400Kg isn’t even close to being lightweight (very doubtful that the AMG version will be any less than the V6). Accepting that all cars are heavier today than they were 50 years ago, rather shows the trend going forward especially when EV’s arrive. I love powerful small lightweight open top sports cars & the Emira isn’t that or ever will be. The Chinese have captured a brand with the depth of history to rival Ferrari & doubtless they’ll exploit that & sell enough cars (SUV’s or sport cars) to make huge profits, but for my money there should be a consortium or crowd fund to buy the production rights of the Elise to keep the spirit of real Lotus alive much like Caterham have done since 1973 with the Lotus 7. I’ll stick with my S1 Elise at 725Kg & hope that the 2026 Lotus EV sportscar will be worthy of the Lotus badge.
Thanks for the comment Drew🤗 you make so many great points. It will be interesting to see what their EV will be like. I just wish they kept one of these 3 going. Especially when you consider how long the Elise has been going for and the fact it’s a great option for people who can enter in at this point. Such a shame, thanks for chatting 👍🏽
Not possible with EVs. Not with the safety stuff and range.
Great vidéo....
Got an exige.....
Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment. Very much appreciated. I bet you love your exige. I loved having a go. 👌🏽
Love my exige 410. I’ll keep it forever!
Yes love it. Thanks for the comment🤗 what colour is your exige?
Looking to invest in these cars - anyone know if Lotus still provide parts ?
That’s a very good question. I would ring a local dealer and find out. I’ve always had trouble with getting a response from the HQ. There must be Elise parts kicking around quite a few places at least. Thanks for the comment and good luck 🤗
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13:25-13:31 exige sport 410 👍
congratulations for the video, as far as I'm concerned I hold on to my Lotus Elise s220 CR, a unique car that gives emotions to every meter traveled, with the absence of the power steering and sitting 1.5 cm from the ground on an aluminum frame of the weight of 68 KG and held together by aerospace glue .. feel the road every use change of slope feels all machines so no more, unfortunately there are more and more heavy and boring cars, nothing to do with the weight power of the Lotus Elise 900 KG inexpensive to maintain magic car.... I'm very worried about Elise \ Exige \ Evora's departure. ok now there is the Emira which is still a Lotus even if it weighs a lot 1450 KG 450 Kg more than the Exige despite having the same Toyota V6, but then what will happen when the Lotus SUV or the electric cars come out, by removing the Elise you give up to a large percentage of people who thanks to the Elise 1.6 with 40k you could have a Lotus with 64k you could get an Elise s220, while for the Emira you need 100k, the new Lotus will be able to afford them only people with a lot of money but then how can you make an SUV lightweight that respects the Lotus brand? it is impossible and even worse with the electric ones given the weight of the batteries, the Chinese in my opinion will do some damage, the Lotus Elise \ Exige was born thanks to the Italians Romani Artioli,
Thank you very much for your comment 🤗 you make some great points. I bet you love having an Elise, it would of been great if they could of kept just one of these models going. Like you said for others to be able to afford a good price point into lotus. Thank you for chatting. 👍🏽
@@CarChatTV and it would have been nice to at least keep the Elise, but due to today's safety systems it is impossible to produce these cars again, you need 4 Airbags, ADAS systems, and other electronic problems that only give problems distract the driver and increase the weight , as far as I am concerned I have always loved Lotus since I was a child when I saw the Lotus F1 JPS, for 3 years I have been driving the Elise first the 1.6 then the s220 CR is the one in my profile image, I live in Italy where there are many beautiful cars but when I pass my Lotus they all turn to admire what a magical car .. thanks to you for the chat
They could keep making cars like this, Caterham get away with it by being a "low volume" manufacturer. But Lotus want to expand massively and compete with Porsche etc, so they won't.
There are rumours they might make the Elise design public, so any manufacturer can make them. Which is how Caterham got going with the 7 based cars. But re-producing the Elise chassis might be difficult.
@@BlatentlyFakeName I read an article that said that Lotus could sell the machinery to produce the Lotus Elise, maybe Caterham could buy the cars and continue to produce the Elises, certainly it would not be the same thing but letting a car like the Elise die is a crime towards humanity
Let’s be clear: Lotus aren’t discontinuing the cars because the market is competitive. It’s doing it because of heavy handed government regulation.
Thanks for the comment 🤗 we hope you liked the video. Are you a lotus fan? Out of the three what would your pick be? Thanks for chatting.
Sad, for so many great cars. Seems they could have keep the elite and evora and done something different engine wise with emira
I agree, it would have been great to keep just one of the three. Maybe the Elise as that’s been running the longest but🤷🏻♂️ that’s for chatting with us🤗
I was hoping for a slightly less bare-bones Elise that did away with those huge sills.
Thanks for the comment 🤗 Those sills are effort to climb across too. Thanks for chatting.
this broke me
Yeah it’s a sad day. What’s your favourite one? Thanks for chatting and leaving a comment 🤗
If a brand makes cars which are soulless and dead then I'd rather they went under and died. At least they will be remembered well.
Thanks for the comment. 🤗 very interesting point. We hope you liked the episode. Thanks for chatting 👍🏽
Other companies suv's have sold so well its supported the brand which lotus needs. Once geely start banking bigger im sure more models that follow the brand closer will follow. Until then its the highend halo car and suv as a practical solution to lotus bottom line
Hi Phil thanks for the comment 🤗 totally agree with you. I just hope they remember to release a brand focussed car like the Elise with a good price point when the time comes. Thanks for chatting 👍🏽
@@CarChatTV I maybe totally off but it seems they are copying Lambo who have topped their cash grab with a massive price countach. Perhaps a super limited esprit is coming. Agree they must not forget their roots
Beautifully shot video but how do you talk about all three of these cars and then only talk about electric Lotus’s of the future? Have you Heard of the Emira!!! No mention at all? WTF?
Hey Denny, great point. We shot this just before the news of the Emira, and we had plans to visit lotus to talk about it. But unfortunately other things got in the way and we wanted to release what we had. What are your thoughts on the Emira? Would you consider owning one? Which if the old three do you like? Thanks for chatting 👍🏽
@@CarChatTV Oh, my bad! I love all three of the cars. I would have a Evora GT as of today. I do have a deposit on an Emira. Thanks for the reply.
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Thanks for the comment 🤗
Why does the owner of the Elise sound exactly like George Russel wtf
Thanks for the comment 🤗 just did a double take, your right he does a bit lol. You think George will do well this year in a merc? Thanks for chatting 👍🏽
I think the difference is that Lamborghini used to make tractors. Lotus only ever made sportscars. Porsche made a stupid 4x4 but they used to make tractors too. I wouldn't by an SUV from any of them.
Lol thanks for the comment Fred 🤗 hope you liked the vid. What would be your choice from the lotus cars? Thanks for chatting
@@CarChatTV Evora 400 with a Komotec 460 upgrade. And some spare gearboxes.
The end of Lotus. No electric. Stop.
Russell Car is not the right designer.
Donato Coco, the ex designer, do the better job, you can see in the last Exige and last Elise. I'm sure the Evora 400 is from Russell Car.
Thanks for the comment 🤗what’s you favourite, if you had to choose? Thanks for chatting 👍🏽
@@CarChatTV I have all of them: Elise S1, Exige S1 and Evora GTE N. 16. The real problem with Lotus is the assistance and the quality of Evora, not really the best.👍
Lotus is finish Emira is ok but too expensive, and as for the Electric one not hardly a mass volume car like the rest of EVs, they will go broke within two years ,and Musk will get his grubby hands on the company.
Thanks for the comment 🤗 a very interesting prediction. We are all waiting to see how the lotus brand plays out. Thanks for chatting to us 👍🏽
All shit cars! Good their end has come
Thanks for the comment 🤗 what car would you rather? Thanks for chatting 👍🏽
@@CarChatTV i own a real lotus. An esprit turbo se
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