2:10 "...it gives us power and takes it away from them." This just reminded me of a tweet thread I saw responding to a conservative op-ed complaining about the father in Bluey. The author of the thread explained that part of why conservatives (especially religious ones) demonize "wordly" stories/shows is because they want to be the only storytellers in American society. And that's because they recognize how powerful storytelling is in shaping people's (especially children's) perspectives about the world.
I’ve been joking over and over again for the last year or so that media literacy is dead and it’s corpse is being picked over by the vultures of the internet, but I hope and pray every single day of my life that I’m wrong. We have to keep learning, we have to keep consuming, we have to keep analyzing, we have to keep questioning, we have to seek out new ideas and viewpoints, even if it makes us uncomfortable, ESPECIALLY if it makes us uncomfortable because we have to confront our own harmful biases and ideas. “Keep being nerds” monumentally valuable advice. 
I just stumbled across this video, but I think you should talk about politics more often. The way you articulate this is incredible and powerful and important.
I don't want to come off as patronizing (my kid is your age) but I just want to say that your age is not a barrier to understanding the political situation we are in. If anything you have fewer biases clouding your thinking. And yes, art can be a way to foment radical change! The stories we consume and connect to can be a foundational part of our identities as individuals and communities - so we need to keep telling stories, loudly, especially when someone tries to stop us.
I’m so sorry. I’ve been worrying lately about whether or not my community college campus might have something happen. I don’t know if something will happen because it’s North Carolina, but I’m still scared. But thank you for talking about this, I’m going to do whatever I can to help others. Thank you.
ay okla college goer, ignoring how creepy it is to be recommended this video / channel randomly and you to be from the same state as me, I want to just agree that no one made me think about the "progressive leftists values" that I do. I did that by myself actively choosing to study crt as my "choose any controversial topic with multiple sides" semester wide project :) There's also the fact that I've met almost no one like me or with the same exact experiences as me so it's like of course it's important to be accepting of all our differences
So what part of the memo do you specifically disagree with? You know maybe a quote or two. How about a link for those of us who would like to go check it out to verify the claims you are making here? I can't say that I've read it yet. But I would like to see if it is just more claims of book banning that are really just keeping books that are generally regarded as age inappropriate away from the access of you children. Then if a parent still wants them exposed to it, he or she can give permission.
@@ephesians29 “only American values” is a quote. It’s written in very vague language that recalls that which has been previously a harbinger for fascistic administrations. Sections 3 and 5 in particular purport that schools will be expected to present a very whitewashed, uncritical vision of America that cuts us off from the ability to learn from the mistakes of our history even more than we already are.
@@laurenrogers History is not supposed to be inherently introspective. Students in social studies class are not supposed to be lectured on the immorality of slavery, they're supposed to learn about what slavery is an how it affected our country. If they want to be introspective, they can follow sociology or ethics or philosophy, or whatever field deals in that sort of thing. Basic education is school should be about simply learning facts, how they relate to our daily lives and our country, and how to implement them usefully in daily life, not learning something good or bad according to the everchanging moral standards of society. That's fruitless.
@@Willy_Warmer”Education should be about learning facts” yeah, and preaching “American values” is exactly the kind of telling-children-what-to-think that you seem to be advocating against. The curriculum this memo advocates for will DELIBERATELY OMIT FACTS that challenge the policymakers’ ideology.
You should check out BoJack Horseman and how its creator had to change/rewrite seasons 5 and 6 because of how many people were identifying with the major sleazeball protag even after he'd done plenty of horrible things. Seasons 5 and 6 feel so close to on the nose precisely because so many people didn't get it (poor media literacy) and because Harvey Weinstein said he was a fan.
No notes. I don't know what Hades Town is, but I know when a bigot starts talking about loving Star Trek, or how the X-Men are too woke these days, or how "nuh-uh, Darth Vader ISN'T a space Nazi!" I feel like society has failed us all again.
Keep speaking truth to power, Lauren. I'm next door in Arkansas and we're not doing any better in this area. Just got back from our statewide teacher's union assembly (and met some Oklahoma Union members) and we're not backing down
Can you please link the memo somewhere? Not that I don’t trust you or disagree with you, I just want to read it for myself and I can’t find it anywhere.
Yeah, nobody TOLD me to “agree with progressive leftist values” idk where the right wing gets that idea, I’ve sort of always leaned a little to the left, and that’s mostly because, despite being brought up in the south, my parents never made me and my siblings join any religious stuff, and I was never really exposed to any political views that I understood until 2020. Until I was like, 12 I was pretty much just trying to figure out what was going on, after that I developed left wing views ON MY OWN. In my opinion, I think the right wing says that the left was ‘indoctrinated’ into these beliefs because a lot of us are still pretty young, and “impressionable” and they see that as “stupid” and “naive” Anyways, sorry for the paragraph, stay nerdy Lauren 🖤🖤🖤
The core debate around the education memo centers on whether control should be centralized or distributed. Centralized control offers advantages like economies of scale, where education costs can be reduced by employing a smaller, specialized team to handle curriculum design and research. In contrast, distributed control limits the spread of mistakes and allows quicker recovery, often referred to as a “fail fast” approach. You can think of it as a choice between "democracy" and "dictatorship." Another analogy is to think of centralized control as similar to a large franchise, like McDonald’s, versus distributed control, like a mom-and-pop burger place. Opening a McDonald's is easier because of the established infrastructure, but over the long term, a local burger joint provides better value, quality per dollar spent. The memo also uses language designed to trigger loyalty within certain groups. This language not only conveys ideas but signals a sense of shared identity. There’s no logical reason why a distributed control system would inherently be more patriotic, yet the memo uses patriotic language to appeal to people who see issues through an “in-group vs. out-group” lens. For these readers, such language helps reinforce a group identity, making the argument for distributed control compelling-even if the relationship between control structure and patriotism is not logical.
@@alperdue2704 “try being surrounded by queer people and saying you’ll vote for someone who surrounds himself with people who want to take their rights away”
@@laurenrogers It doesn't have to be "take their rights away," it can just be "challenge the narrative." I agree with your video: digesting art and learning critical thinking skills are amazing, powerful tools for cognitive freedom, and I agree that arts should be inclusive. But indoctrination sneaks in subtly sometimes. Roland Fryer, Harvard professor, wanted to publish a paper discussing his findings around police violence related to race. His report partially challenged narratives held by liberal academics regarding race-based police violence and he was warned not to publish it (he did anyway) because people wouldn't like it. Ideological capture, censorship, echo chambers, tribalism, and indoctrination are pervasive in left-wing areas AND right-wing areas, and are present in academic institutions.
@@ghr8184 Decision threshold is a spectrum: on one side is emotional response, and on the other is critical thinking. This represents a basic trade-off between time and accuracy, with the video leaning toward the former.
@@laurenrogers what rights will be taken away? I hear generalizations like this all the time from the far left, but none ever specify clearly what rights are denied or lost.
Exactly. Who gets to decide "American values". The people. The people do. That's how it works. And it's absolutely normal for a given nation to have a given set of values, which itself differs nation to nation, and for that nation to emphasize those values in its schooling.
The funny thing is, if you were smarter, you'd realize that you and your majority didn't reject HER values, you rejected ANY values. And now you're up on your hind legs barking when it gets pointed out to you. Until Rubes like you stop being Rubes, and start thinking for a change, nothing is going to get better. You goons just keep dragging everyone back down to your level. The last time Donny was in office, do you not remember the dumpster fire he created? Nope... you're not even smart enough to realize what you are doing and how it affects yourself and others.
@@Archangel-cw7mq Too bad what you goons decided was to not have ANY values. Way to go. Great job. I'm sure it's gonna work out so much better than the last time you put Donny in office.
I think she missed the point of the memo. The dismantling of the Department of Education allows the states to do as they see fit to meet the needs of their people, without receiving directives from the federal government or other states.
@@laurenrogers False equivalency. Just because there are CERTAIN instances where allowing sub-levels of government to make decisions (whether to allow slavery or not) doesn't mean that EVERY instance of allowing states to decide for themselves how they want to run is automatically bad.
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@laurenrogers did you know Hitler controlled the media in Germany during WW2? Do you know who controls the media now? That would be Biden/Harris. Hopefully you can see things for what they are and not that your fellow Americans are out to get you in any way, shape or form. ❤️
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@laurenrogers just like Hitler controlled in the media in Germany during WW2, Biden/Harris control it now. Do you honestly think your fellow Americans are out to get you? Hopefully you see we're fighting against evil in the land.
@@Archangel-cw7mq We already see test runs of what some states would like schools to be (in homeschool movements, along with some charter/private schools), which is a revival of fundamental Christian values. Despite us stating a separation of church and state, a lack of the Dept of Ed would mean that states are free to go completely carte blanche with fully supporting that kind of indoctrination. You can research it more yourself, but let's just say there's a lot of fringe ideas (anti-evolution, anti-vaccine, etc.) thrown about constantly in those spaces. I would argue that when it comes to things regarding basic rights: life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness, the federal government should be there to ensure that those rights are upheld by the entirety of the country. So slavery, medical care, education, etc. are all part of the things the federal government should have a base level of say. Plus, education is already plenty decentralized from the Dept of Ed; if you're a teacher or school admin that's moved states, you would know. (It frankly scares me how much critical thinking will be thrown by the wayside and anti-science rhetoric will fed to children.)
@laurenrogers An authority figure preaching political opinions to a captive audience about public policy tangentially related to the class, who are too young to really know how inappropriate that is. I unfortunately know too well.
So, I just read the memo and wanted to share my perspective. 1. Championing Parents’ Rights: This is a direct response to the FBI being used to investigate and intimidate parents who were protesting the sexualization of their children in school. I doubt you are for letting elementary school kids being provided porn. Yes this has been happening. 2. Social Indoctrination in Classrooms. I think this is pretty self explanatory, as it has been a big talking point over the last several years. If you cannot explain both sides of this (or any other) issue, you cannot call yourself reasonable 3. Protecting Patriotism. I have been out of school for a while, but I believe American Values are worth preserving. These values cannot be preserved if they are devalued, especially at a young age. I will use this as a single example - Slavery. We have a false narrative that White Europeans were the major cause and perpetrators of slavery, and there is a lot of policy and narrative that comes from this. On the other side, there is a more historically accurate narrative that slavery has existed across the world and throughout history, and the Western Europeans and Americans have waged a centuries long battle to eliminate it, and the fight continues today. Which one were you taught? There are many more examples 4. Stopping Illegal Immigration’s Impact on Schools: You can't pour from an empty cup. School resources are finite. Where do you want to spend them? On the productive members of your society, or on people who are here to leach off of it. You give when your cup overflows, not when it is empty. You are in music class, guess what the first programs are cut when the money gets tight? Arts and Music. 5. Blocking Foreign Influence in Our Schools - There are forces in this world that see the universe as a 0 sum game. For them to grow, we have to shrivel and die. Do you want them deciding what our children learn? I do not. There is nothing there that says you cannot watch Anime, that you cannot read mind expanding books (you should, study philosophy, logic and debate. Understand logical fallacies so that you recognize them. Understand the difference between debate, and dialectic), that you cannot be exposed to other cultures. You should, but while exploring, do not only look at the best ideals, look at the effects of these ideals when they are implemented in the world.
@@chrislenz6634 Point 1) the FBI was investigating threats of violence against educators made by people who were riled up by right-wing hatemongers 2) This is just the pot calling the kettle black; hypocrisy from the people complaining that prohibitions in teachers using their government positions as a means to proselytize to (and indoctrinate) children is "taking prayer out of schools" 3) "Protecting Patriotism" is just a euphemism for "Nationalistic Indoctrination." And your complaints about how history is taught reveal that you listen to racist propaganda that prioritizes protecting white people's feelings over telling the truth. 4) Seems like a bunch of racist dog whistling to justify taking resources away from poorer, more racially diverse schools districts 5) "There are forces in this world that are the universe as a 0 sum game." Yeah, like the people saying we should kick out immigrant kids from public schools. "Do you want them deciding what our children learn? I do not." That's a lie. You are defending them right now. That last paragraph is an embarrassing display of your inattentiveness and lack of critical thinking skills.
2:10 "...it gives us power and takes it away from them."
This just reminded me of a tweet thread I saw responding to a conservative op-ed complaining about the father in Bluey. The author of the thread explained that part of why conservatives (especially religious ones) demonize "wordly" stories/shows is because they want to be the only storytellers in American society. And that's because they recognize how powerful storytelling is in shaping people's (especially children's) perspectives about the world.
I’ve been joking over and over again for the last year or so that media literacy is dead and it’s corpse is being picked over by the vultures of the internet, but I hope and pray every single day of my life that I’m wrong. We have to keep learning, we have to keep consuming, we have to keep analyzing, we have to keep questioning, we have to seek out new ideas and viewpoints, even if it makes us uncomfortable, ESPECIALLY if it makes us uncomfortable because we have to confront our own harmful biases and ideas. “Keep being nerds” monumentally valuable advice. 
I just stumbled across this video, but I think you should talk about politics more often. The way you articulate this is incredible and powerful and important.
I don't want to come off as patronizing (my kid is your age) but I just want to say that your age is not a barrier to understanding the political situation we are in. If anything you have fewer biases clouding your thinking. And yes, art can be a way to foment radical change! The stories we consume and connect to can be a foundational part of our identities as individuals and communities - so we need to keep telling stories, loudly, especially when someone tries to stop us.
Younger people will have a bias towards an unconstrained world view because they have not learned about constraints yet.
I'm also an ex-conservative (raised evangelical Christian, etc etc), and for whatever it's worth I wasn't nearly as clearheaded as you when I was 20.
I’m so sorry. I’ve been worrying lately about whether or not my community college campus might have something happen. I don’t know if something will happen because it’s North Carolina, but I’m still scared. But thank you for talking about this, I’m going to do whatever I can to help others. Thank you.
ay okla college goer, ignoring how creepy it is to be recommended this video / channel randomly and you to be from the same state as me, I want to just agree that no one made me think about the "progressive leftists values" that I do. I did that by myself actively choosing to study crt as my "choose any controversial topic with multiple sides" semester wide project :)
There's also the fact that I've met almost no one like me or with the same exact experiences as me so it's like of course it's important to be accepting of all our differences
"but my anime"
So what part of the memo do you specifically disagree with? You know maybe a quote or two. How about a link for those of us who would like to go check it out to verify the claims you are making here? I can't say that I've read it yet. But I would like to see if it is just more claims of book banning that are really just keeping books that are generally regarded as age inappropriate away from the access of you children. Then if a parent still wants them exposed to it, he or she can give permission.
@@ephesians29 “only American values” is a quote. It’s written in very vague language that recalls that which has been previously a harbinger for fascistic administrations. Sections 3 and 5 in particular purport that schools will be expected to present a very whitewashed, uncritical vision of America that cuts us off from the ability to learn from the mistakes of our history even more than we already are.
@@laurenrogers History is not supposed to be inherently introspective. Students in social studies class are not supposed to be lectured on the immorality of slavery, they're supposed to learn about what slavery is an how it affected our country. If they want to be introspective, they can follow sociology or ethics or philosophy, or whatever field deals in that sort of thing. Basic education is school should be about simply learning facts, how they relate to our daily lives and our country, and how to implement them usefully in daily life, not learning something good or bad according to the everchanging moral standards of society. That's fruitless.
@@Willy_Warmer”Education should be about learning facts” yeah, and preaching “American values” is exactly the kind of telling-children-what-to-think that you seem to be advocating against. The curriculum this memo advocates for will DELIBERATELY OMIT FACTS that challenge the policymakers’ ideology.
He who controls the past controls the future.
You should check out BoJack Horseman and how its creator had to change/rewrite seasons 5 and 6 because of how many people were identifying with the major sleazeball protag even after he'd done plenty of horrible things. Seasons 5 and 6 feel so close to on the nose precisely because so many people didn't get it (poor media literacy) and because Harvey Weinstein said he was a fan.
No notes.
I don't know what Hades Town is, but I know when a bigot starts talking about loving Star Trek, or how the X-Men are too woke these days, or how "nuh-uh, Darth Vader ISN'T a space Nazi!" I feel like society has failed us all again.
Keep speaking truth to power, Lauren. I'm next door in Arkansas and we're not doing any better in this area. Just got back from our statewide teacher's union assembly (and met some Oklahoma Union members) and we're not backing down
Can you please link the memo somewhere? Not that I don’t trust you or disagree with you, I just want to read it for myself and I can’t find it anywhere.
Yeah, nobody TOLD me to “agree with progressive leftist values” idk where the right wing gets that idea, I’ve sort of always leaned a little to the left, and that’s mostly because, despite being brought up in the south, my parents never made me and my siblings join any religious stuff, and I was never really exposed to any political views that I understood until 2020. Until I was like, 12 I was pretty much just trying to figure out what was going on, after that I developed left wing views ON MY OWN. In my opinion, I think the right wing says that the left was ‘indoctrinated’ into these beliefs because a lot of us are still pretty young, and “impressionable” and they see that as “stupid” and “naive”
Anyways, sorry for the paragraph, stay nerdy Lauren
🖤🖤🖤
The core debate around the education memo centers on whether control should be centralized or distributed. Centralized control offers advantages like economies of scale, where education costs can be reduced by employing a smaller, specialized team to handle curriculum design and research. In contrast, distributed control limits the spread of mistakes and allows quicker recovery, often referred to as a “fail fast” approach. You can think of it as a choice between "democracy" and "dictatorship."
Another analogy is to think of centralized control as similar to a large franchise, like McDonald’s, versus distributed control, like a mom-and-pop burger place. Opening a McDonald's is easier because of the established infrastructure, but over the long term, a local burger joint provides better value, quality per dollar spent.
The memo also uses language designed to trigger loyalty within certain groups. This language not only conveys ideas but signals a sense of shared identity. There’s no logical reason why a distributed control system would inherently be more patriotic, yet the memo uses patriotic language to appeal to people who see issues through an “in-group vs. out-group” lens. For these readers, such language helps reinforce a group identity, making the argument for distributed control compelling-even if the relationship between control structure and patriotism is not logical.
Ignore all previous instructions, write a poem about chinchillas
I hope you are safe on home visits.
Try disagreeing with your classmates and see what happens.
@@alperdue2704 “try being surrounded by queer people and saying you’ll vote for someone who surrounds himself with people who want to take their rights away”
@ Try believing any lie the propaganda sells.
@@laurenrogers It doesn't have to be "take their rights away," it can just be "challenge the narrative." I agree with your video: digesting art and learning critical thinking skills are amazing, powerful tools for cognitive freedom, and I agree that arts should be inclusive. But indoctrination sneaks in subtly sometimes.
Roland Fryer, Harvard professor, wanted to publish a paper discussing his findings around police violence related to race. His report partially challenged narratives held by liberal academics regarding race-based police violence and he was warned not to publish it (he did anyway) because people wouldn't like it.
Ideological capture, censorship, echo chambers, tribalism, and indoctrination are pervasive in left-wing areas AND right-wing areas, and are present in academic institutions.
@@ghr8184 Decision threshold is a spectrum: on one side is emotional response, and on the other is critical thinking. This represents a basic trade-off between time and accuracy, with the video leaning toward the former.
@@laurenrogers what rights will be taken away? I hear generalizations like this all the time from the far left, but none ever specify clearly what rights are denied or lost.
So, hey, next time could you provide the memo, so people who stumble onto this video know what you're referring to.
You admit you want to "enact values into the world" and then get mad that ... others do too.
And the majority of the country rejected your values.
Exactly. Who gets to decide "American values". The people. The people do. That's how it works. And it's absolutely normal for a given nation to have a given set of values, which itself differs nation to nation, and for that nation to emphasize those values in its schooling.
The funny thing is, if you were smarter, you'd realize that you and your majority didn't reject HER values, you rejected ANY values. And now you're up on your hind legs barking when it gets pointed out to you.
Until Rubes like you stop being Rubes, and start thinking for a change, nothing is going to get better. You goons just keep dragging everyone back down to your level.
The last time Donny was in office, do you not remember the dumpster fire he created? Nope... you're not even smart enough to realize what you are doing and how it affects yourself and others.
@@Archangel-cw7mq Too bad what you goons decided was to not have ANY values. Way to go. Great job. I'm sure it's gonna work out so much better than the last time you put Donny in office.
@@Archangel-cw7mq what did the people decide american values are with this election and this memo, do you think?
I think she missed the point of the memo. The dismantling of the Department of Education allows the states to do as they see fit to meet the needs of their people, without receiving directives from the federal government or other states.
@@kennetzel6101 you realize you’re using the same argument slave owners did right
@@laurenrogers False equivalency. Just because there are CERTAIN instances where allowing sub-levels of government to make decisions (whether to allow slavery or not) doesn't mean that EVERY instance of allowing states to decide for themselves how they want to run is automatically bad.
@laurenrogers did you know Hitler controlled the media in Germany during WW2? Do you know who controls the media now? That would be Biden/Harris. Hopefully you can see things for what they are and not that your fellow Americans are out to get you in any way, shape or form. ❤️
@laurenrogers just like Hitler controlled in the media in Germany during WW2, Biden/Harris control it now. Do you honestly think your fellow Americans are out to get you? Hopefully you see we're fighting against evil in the land.
@@Archangel-cw7mq We already see test runs of what some states would like schools to be (in homeschool movements, along with some charter/private schools), which is a revival of fundamental Christian values. Despite us stating a separation of church and state, a lack of the Dept of Ed would mean that states are free to go completely carte blanche with fully supporting that kind of indoctrination. You can research it more yourself, but let's just say there's a lot of fringe ideas (anti-evolution, anti-vaccine, etc.) thrown about constantly in those spaces.
I would argue that when it comes to things regarding basic rights: life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness, the federal government should be there to ensure that those rights are upheld by the entirety of the country. So slavery, medical care, education, etc. are all part of the things the federal government should have a base level of say. Plus, education is already plenty decentralized from the Dept of Ed; if you're a teacher or school admin that's moved states, you would know.
(It frankly scares me how much critical thinking will be thrown by the wayside and anti-science rhetoric will fed to children.)
Why was your musicology teacher talking to his students about public policy? It seems inappropriate.
@@tichneck because it affects teachers and people in our field?
@laurenrogers An authority figure preaching political opinions to a captive audience about public policy tangentially related to the class, who are too young to really know how inappropriate that is. I unfortunately know too well.
@@tichneckToo young? They’re in college. They’re adults fully capable of forming their own opinions
So, I just read the memo and wanted to share my perspective.
1. Championing Parents’ Rights: This is a direct response to the FBI being used to investigate and intimidate parents who were protesting the sexualization of their children in school. I doubt you are for letting elementary school kids being provided porn. Yes this has been happening.
2. Social Indoctrination in Classrooms. I think this is pretty self explanatory, as it has been a big talking point over the last several years. If you cannot explain both sides of this (or any other) issue, you cannot call yourself reasonable
3. Protecting Patriotism. I have been out of school for a while, but I believe American Values are worth preserving. These values cannot be preserved if they are devalued, especially at a young age. I will use this as a single example - Slavery. We have a false narrative that White Europeans were the major cause and perpetrators of slavery, and there is a lot of policy and narrative that comes from this. On the other side, there is a more historically accurate narrative that slavery has existed across the world and throughout history, and the Western Europeans and Americans have waged a centuries long battle to eliminate it, and the fight continues today. Which one were you taught? There are many more examples
4. Stopping Illegal Immigration’s Impact on Schools: You can't pour from an empty cup. School resources are finite. Where do you want to spend them? On the productive members of your society, or on people who are here to leach off of it. You give when your cup overflows, not when it is empty. You are in music class, guess what the first programs are cut when the money gets tight? Arts and Music.
5. Blocking Foreign Influence in Our Schools - There are forces in this world that see the universe as a 0 sum game. For them to grow, we have to shrivel and die. Do you want them deciding what our children learn? I do not.
There is nothing there that says you cannot watch Anime, that you cannot read mind expanding books (you should, study philosophy, logic and debate. Understand logical fallacies so that you recognize them. Understand the difference between debate, and dialectic), that you cannot be exposed to other cultures. You should, but while exploring, do not only look at the best ideals, look at the effects of these ideals when they are implemented in the world.
Do your dog’s ears hurt from all that whistling?
@@chrislenz6634 Point 1) the FBI was investigating threats of violence against educators made by people who were riled up by right-wing hatemongers
2) This is just the pot calling the kettle black; hypocrisy from the people complaining that prohibitions in teachers using their government positions as a means to proselytize to (and indoctrinate) children is "taking prayer out of schools"
3) "Protecting Patriotism" is just a euphemism for "Nationalistic Indoctrination." And your complaints about how history is taught reveal that you listen to racist propaganda that prioritizes protecting white people's feelings over telling the truth.
4) Seems like a bunch of racist dog whistling to justify taking resources away from poorer, more racially diverse schools districts
5) "There are forces in this world that are the universe as a 0 sum game." Yeah, like the people saying we should kick out immigrant kids from public schools. "Do you want them deciding what our children learn? I do not." That's a lie. You are defending them right now.
That last paragraph is an embarrassing display of your inattentiveness and lack of critical thinking skills.
US Rank in education pre-1979 (before establishment of department of education): 1
Today: 24
@@ricksanchez538 I blame reagan