Tulsi Gabbard on Women in Combat

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  • Опубликовано: 14 ноя 2024

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  • @bb5808
    @bb5808 17 часов назад +1285

    I think she is saying tighten the standards not focus on gender

    • @greatmusicfan57
      @greatmusicfan57 17 часов назад +58

      That would weed out many. Common sense thinking.👍

    • @MundaneThingsBackwards
      @MundaneThingsBackwards 16 часов назад +47

      Yup. Same way professional sports does it. Women can join the NBA if they want so long as they perform in the combine and can compete at the level of the men.

    • @PoisonShot20
      @PoisonShot20 15 часов назад

      ​@@MundaneThingsBackwardsYes, but now they're mutilating man, turning them into " Women" so they can perform well!😂😂

    • @charlessteadman2518
      @charlessteadman2518 14 часов назад +37

      It's far more complicated. Can a female, even if she were to make it through selection, be able to sustain? Does this increase lethality and overall effectiveness? According to the most comprehensive study conducted by the Marines, the answer is no on all accounts.

    • @DietersYT
      @DietersYT 14 часов назад

      What’s great about this, is it forces the left to admit that women and men perform differently.

  • @kenthaunschild2267
    @kenthaunschild2267 13 часов назад +703

    As a former army drill instructor I noticed some key differences between the men and women coming into the system beyond the differing physicality. The men tended to be younger (18-19) and were more interested in getting to shoot their weapons and slept through lectures and the women were 3 years older and more cerebral, took notes and consequently did better on the written tests. Since a lot of a passing score was based on written tests they appeared to be equally qualified.
    Men were quicker to form effective teams and specialize on tasks such as barracks maintenance. Men had no problem with the idea of a battle buddy who would have your back even if you hated each other's guts most of the time. The women had difficulty with the concept of teams and tended to try to form clicks with friends in other squads or platoons and ignore their assigned buddy. With the guys by the second week the barracks were looking perfect most of the time. The women's barracks looked substandard most of the time and even in the last week they'd be arguing about whose turn it was to perform a particular task.
    On another note when my daughter-in law was deployed to Afghanistan with the 82nd we sent a Care Package so they could prepare a meal that wasn't typical. She sent us a picture of her section eating the meal and I noticed that her squad was entirely women and the other squad was all men. When I inquired why the difference she told me that the women stayed inside the fire base and the men performed missions outside the wire. Not sure how widespread this practice was, but it certainly was not equitable.

    • @maluminse1
      @maluminse1 12 часов назад +73

      Your first segment is interesting to hear the difference in how they interact. I'd always imagined women would be better at teams but apparently not. And it's ironic and funny that they don't keep the barracks clean.

    • @carolynruger-rb4kj
      @carolynruger-rb4kj 12 часов назад +90

      I had a female drill instructor tell me the EXACT same thing about women's inability to bond, form a team, admit another woman is better at something than she is and ask for help, etc., compared to the men. She actually told me she hated having female flights. (AF TI)

    • @whiskeytango9769
      @whiskeytango9769 12 часов назад

      I can imagine that the men who go outside the wire feel more comfortable with another man watching their back than a woman. I have no military experience, but I am 62 years old and have been married for close to 40 years, with two grown daughters. Nothing you tell me about women is surprising at all. Men and women have entirely different evolutionary histories, so it should not surprise us that we think differently. Men have had to deal with armed combat for hundreds of thousands of years, women have not. We should expect men to have, generally speaking, the mental wherewithal to deal with combat and forming teams necessary to that task in ways that women find difficult.

    • @desbell7431
      @desbell7431 12 часов назад +41

      It never is equitable - affirmative action ALWAYS means NOT THE BEST PERSON FOR THE JOB.
      Everyone should be allowed to apply for all positions.

    • @whiskeytango9769
      @whiskeytango9769 12 часов назад +62

      @@maluminse1 Women are more concerned about who's turn it is than keeping the place clean. Guys will just keep the place clean, and if they think someone is shirking, that person will get punished by the others in some imaginative way...and if the punished man tells the drill instructor, the punishment will be even worse [by his team].

  • @martincalero7390
    @martincalero7390 15 часов назад +1157

    The standards should NEVER be reduced. NEVER.

    • @DaneOrschlovsky
      @DaneOrschlovsky 13 часов назад +23

      AMEN! Anything that reduces or distracts from the primary objective is counter productive. The STANDARD is the STANDARD.

    • @michaelroberts4889
      @michaelroberts4889 13 часов назад +14

      100% agree!

    • @Bruva_Ayamhyt
      @Bruva_Ayamhyt 13 часов назад +10

      Absolutist positions are rarely sensible when you think about it. Just as an example, if you can lower the standard by 10% but double recruitment, that's probably the better move. The US military is struggling BADLY with recruitment. You fight with the army you have, not the one you wish you had.

    • @AngelValdez-mr3fq
      @AngelValdez-mr3fq 13 часов назад +3

      Lol the standards are always reduced because a warm body is better than no body. If you ask soldiers from previous generations, it was a lot harder in the past than now training wise solely because men got weaker and they need positions filled.

    • @marksisto900
      @marksisto900 13 часов назад +4

      Amen, Standards should be raised. Every truck driver, clerk , mechanic should be able to to jump into the roll of Infantry, War isn't fair it may decide that for us..

  • @timdeavin422
    @timdeavin422 14 часов назад +312

    It is an absolute joy to watch two intelligent people

    • @gailschuldner2974
      @gailschuldner2974 13 часов назад +3

      AMEN!!

    • @desbell7431
      @desbell7431 12 часов назад +4

      Always - it is very rare 👌
      None from the far left 🤔😉

    • @immortal4942
      @immortal4942 6 часов назад

      i didn’t know who she was until today. apparently she’s on a terror watchlist for her deals with Asaad and Putin. also she gives me trans vibes…i’m not sure she’s a woman.

    • @centurione6489
      @centurione6489 6 часов назад

      "Intelligent" is the new "Transgressive".

    • @LogosFlow
      @LogosFlow 29 минут назад

      Where? Oh, right, lowered standards.

  • @WayneKim-dv6id
    @WayneKim-dv6id 14 часов назад +404

    As a retired Special Forces Soldier I believe the FIRST THING that has to change is get rid of seperate Male and Female physical fitness standards! The enemy will not discriminate. Anyone who thinks a 120-140lb woman will be able to defeat a 210-230lb man is mistaken. How is that woman going to carry a 220lb man out of the kill zone? Why is there no women in the NFL? Women can not do everything a man can do the same as a man can't do everything a woman can, they can complement each others strengths and minimize their limitations. America must employ and use women better than just allowing them in every MOS. Yes, I believe women can be effective in SOME Special Forces missions but NOT on a 12 man Operational Detachment Alpha.

    • @Joseph_Greco
      @Joseph_Greco 13 часов назад +24

      Well put.....women and men are not "equal"; they are "complimentary" by nature (yin / yang). Having exclusionary requirements for combat positions is simple common sense...which is what we need to get back to in this country.

    • @moonasha
      @moonasha 13 часов назад

      I say they just let them have steroids if they want them so they can lift more and pass selection, screw it, it's war

    • @jugendamthamburg-ggkonform381
      @jugendamthamburg-ggkonform381 13 часов назад +17

      Sounds good. I'm a female military vet, and think that makes sense.

    • @mikemcnamara3777
      @mikemcnamara3777 13 часов назад +5

      You are right brother. 18A

    • @jolanderphilip
      @jolanderphilip 12 часов назад

      It’s just part of the psyop dude
      Nobody with a brain in their head thinks women can contend with men
      Why yall are so easily manipulated is the real question

  • @johnwesner3935
    @johnwesner3935 13 часов назад +92

    As a retired Firefighter ive been able to work with many brilliant women. Their roles were primarily in EMS which is where they excel. When entering a burning building on a search and rescue mission you have to be confident that your partner has the ability to drag your sorry butt out of the building. This is for the safety of all concerned. Everyone goes through to same physical agility testing. You must meet all the criteria!

    • @Cab520
      @Cab520 Час назад

      @@johnwesner3935 reality. The young generally can do it.the older,30+ getting soft and out of shape. Getting those pouches. If the woman is there she will drag your sorry ass out too. It may be harder,but she will not let you die or die trying to do it. Men think women do not have courage,do not have the same love of country,the same feeling to defend and keep what we have,the same love of people,Adrenalin that kicks in in emergency or when in danger. Well they do. They have the same love of life and survival. Biggest issue there is culture of a man will be there to save and protect. In fact they are not. You are alone and need to defend yourself,by yourself. The reason it generally ends up badly is girls are not taught how to defend and take care of themselves and be prepared for a predator.

    • @rumannkoch4864
      @rumannkoch4864 2 минуты назад +1

      I would emphasize "ALL" in your last sentence

  • @davidmciver9483
    @davidmciver9483 15 часов назад +654

    As an AF officer (40 years ago) I attended army parachute training. There were minimally acceptable standards for sit-ups, chin-ups and squats. Women were just being introduced. The standards were reduced. That is the truth. Every other position in the military should be open but NOT COMBAT.

    • @curleq117
      @curleq117 15 часов назад

      I am a woman of 68 years, always thought women don't belong in the combat department in Military.

    • @adamschrader328
      @adamschrader328 14 часов назад +31

      Rights come with responsibility, Equality means equality.

    • @1Elohim1
      @1Elohim1 14 часов назад

      As a man, I would not take all the dangerous, nasty jobs so females could have all the good jobs. Screw that, let women do all the jobs in the military.

    • @anthonylilly6862
      @anthonylilly6862 14 часов назад

      Also a female soldier can be raped quicker than a male GI. Of course a male GI can of course be raped by a man, but in the middle East or other Muslim countries a man wouldn't be raped by a man

    • @bennunyour4121
      @bennunyour4121 14 часов назад +26

      I agree completely. You really have to wonder about a country that allows women to fight his wars.

  • @nycrich139
    @nycrich139 14 часов назад +119

    I am a disabled VietNam veteran. There are probably five people in support of each combat troop. Women can fill these rolls. They don't have to be in combat to be effective.

    • @alfredbenedek3398
      @alfredbenedek3398 13 часов назад

      I DON'T WAN'T TO CONTRODICT YOU SIR. ALL MY RESPECT TO YOU! BUT IN LIFE SURPRISING NECESSITIES MAKES US PEOPLE TO BE ABLE DOING THINGS, EVEN WE SURPRISE OURSELVES?? DID I DO YTHA - AT BASAS!
      #2 - I AGREE WITH YOU, UP TPO A POINT SIR, BUT HEY, THE OPPONENT / ENEMY SU - URE WILL BE SURPRISED? WHENA WOMAN WILL TRAKE CARE OF, SEVERAL TOUGHYS??! I'M SUR YOU DO KNOW, WHAT I MEAN??!!!

    • @desbell7431
      @desbell7431 12 часов назад +4

      Only if they are the BEST person for the job, and NOT just because they can do it at the expense of a male who could do it better.

    • @maxine-x4x
      @maxine-x4x 11 часов назад +1

      '..these _roles_ .'

    • @walterwilliams1791
      @walterwilliams1791 9 часов назад +2

      @@desbell7431lot of jobs in the military don’t have high physical fitness requirements. Checkout a navy ship sometime(not navy seals, just regular sailors). Women can do plenty of jobs just fine. Yeah, most women can be a navy seal but neither can most men. You can find jobs where 50% men can do it but less than 50% women can do it but so what. Just do everything merit based. Don’t worry about gender. Have early screenings so people can be filtered into jobs that contribute the most to society.

    • @FuKuNinja
      @FuKuNinja 5 часов назад +1

      ​@@walterwilliams1791There are still many issues putting men and women together .

  • @joshuamitchell5481
    @joshuamitchell5481 14 часов назад +189

    If you can not carry your mate off the front line you should not be there

    • @jojosurprise7696
      @jojosurprise7696 12 часов назад

      We should not send our military into harms way. I am more concerned that ALL people should defend their family and homes ie have access and know how to use guns.

    • @randybisbee848
      @randybisbee848 12 часов назад +14

      THIS was a prime concern, and was trained during our MOB on the way to Iraq in 2009. Combat Aviation, Attack Recon Apache chopper battalions. No 130lb woman wearing 70 lbs of armor and still more in weapons and ammo, in 120 degree F heat is going to drag a 240 lb, 6 foot 4 inch man dressed the same way anywhere. Period. She will simply become a second casualty thereby endangering further troops and the mission.

    • @marymac1972
      @marymac1972 9 часов назад

      That part!

    • @jdilksjr
      @jdilksjr 9 часов назад +5

      @@randybisbee848 Me, being a 150 lb, 5 foot 6 inch man would be hard pressed to carry that man anywhere. And I wouldn't be able to drag him far.
      You might want to consider keeping each unit to similar sized humans.

    • @Lurch685
      @Lurch685 8 часов назад

      @@randybisbee848I never have been or ever will be in good enough shape to do that, and I’m a man.

  • @billparks7368
    @billparks7368 14 часов назад +66

    What an intelligent, confident, based, got her shit together woman.
    Oh, and beautiful too!
    The cream of the crop of American womanhood. ❤ 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲💪

    • @victorbilly4769
      @victorbilly4769 11 часов назад +6

      She's what an American top class woman is.

    • @johnmaxwell1750
      @johnmaxwell1750 7 часов назад

      Tulsi does not appreciate men who slober in response to her attractive looks,

    • @Cab520
      @Cab520 49 минут назад +2

      @@billparks7368 thank you for looking at this woman as a person and admitting to her qualities

  • @Lost_In_LA
    @Lost_In_LA 15 часов назад +381

    I love the precision and careful choice of words by both Peterson and Gabbard. Brilliant.

    • @aprilfawcett283
      @aprilfawcett283 14 часов назад +4

      Couldnt have said it better myself. Very well spoken they are. Straight to the point.

    • @joeschmoe6720
      @joeschmoe6720 14 часов назад +8

      Matthew 5:37 - "But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil."
      It was not a direct answer but a careful choice of words alluding to the obvious. I would have more respect if they would just say "no, women do not meet the standard for combat positions." But it goes beyond qualification as well. Combat is not suited for the nurturing nature of women, and nor should women be exposed to the violent carnage of battle let alone participating in it, in a civil society. Brilliant semantics, not a firm stance.

    • @davidr24
      @davidr24 14 часов назад

      When you listening her every time bragging on how she served in the military you would think she was a female Rambo while in reality she was an admin in a medical unit. Of course now that she scored a job flipping on all of her position she can pander to the electorate that she's been sucking up in the past year or so

    • @Youaretheactionsofgod
      @Youaretheactionsofgod 14 часов назад +2

      Too careful, if you are too careful in Jordan's own words you'll never progress through the thought process, you need to be able to make mistakes in language if you are to work through anything conceptual

    • @Youaretheactionsofgod
      @Youaretheactionsofgod 14 часов назад

      ​@@joeschmoe6720 this man came with facts and a bible

  • @connormullett6431
    @connormullett6431 9 часов назад +16

    Jordan. You look so relaxed in your recent videos, and it makes me very glad. I hope things are going well. Thank you for all your help.

  • @stevesoller4571
    @stevesoller4571 18 часов назад +294

    I think she did answer it...if the person has the skill and capability, have been tested and demonstrated they have the ability to do the job, and are the best equipped to do the job, then they should be placed there. That standard, by it's very realism, will absolutely rule out a majority of women and a percentage of men.

    • @SENSEF
      @SENSEF 17 часов назад +3

      THIS

    • @user-iu1ru1qz7u
      @user-iu1ru1qz7u 17 часов назад +16

      I have an issue with that answer, which was fairly rational in itself.
      How do we prevent people from down the line softening the standard? That's pretty much how we got where we are today.
      We had standards for police officers, firemen, soldiers, etc, and they all got softened over time. First to include crappier men that just get by, to eventually women. Then you get the people who purposely soften the standard to gain political points.
      As it is, 99.99%(if not 100) of women are useless for combat, the number is high enough that we benefit more from discarding the option altogether than to allow the possibility of a 0.01% exceptional lady to make it in, because leaving that door open guarantees the softening of the standard isn't far away, for all the wrong reasons mentioned above.

    • @GustavoAndresHerrera
      @GustavoAndresHerrera 17 часов назад +7

      @@user-iu1ru1qz7u I get your concern, but at the end of the day, saying "you need to be male" is ALSO a standard, and can be changed by people down the line as well.
      The answer to this kind of questions, IMHO, is: we need to recover the principle of teleology. Things exists FOR SOMETHING. Armed Forces exist to WIN WARS. Anything that makes them better AT THAT should be the standard.
      The same applies to sex (it exists to propagate the species), and the same applies to everything else in life. What furthers their natural objective (teleology) is good, what hinders it is bad.

    • @TransNeingerian
      @TransNeingerian 17 часов назад +21

      Introducing a capable woman into an all man unit brings other complexities and problems besides ability.
      To let that one woman in you must alter multiple things for thousands of men to attempt to maintain the same efficiency and cohesiveness.
      She has to train, eat, sleep, shower, and change with men - not just on the job in combat, but in the training pipeline and when she is back home. Nobody is going to ever let hormones play a role, including her monthly fluctuation? Nobody is ever going to overextend risk to treat her differently? She's going to average the same career length as a man and never get pregnant, or always be the same strength after pregnancy?
      Absolutely not.
      Not worth it, especially in such a high risk environment.

    • @countryfucius
      @countryfucius 17 часов назад +4

      @@user-iu1ru1qz7u 100% There is waste in patronizing the issue. It's not worth doing. Your argument is best.

  • @KatrinaDancer
    @KatrinaDancer 14 часов назад +60

    I'm all about basing things on merit 👏

    • @janelleg597
      @janelleg597 13 часов назад

      Women do not belong in physical combat regardless of merit.

  • @taskmaster58
    @taskmaster58 16 часов назад +278

    I served in a field unit from1980-88 when they were just starting to let women go into the field. I found that unless you had a group of women that could be self sustaining, I would get pulled away from my job/jobs to set up tents, dig latrines, slit trenches for the women PLUS I had to fulfill my own jobs as well. So they got to sit back and smoke and I got double the work, not a fan of that.

    • @RVBadlands2015
      @RVBadlands2015 14 часов назад +6

      Was it there problem or the supervisor in charge. Humm

    • @gbear34
      @gbear34 14 часов назад +35

      @@RVBadlands2015 If they were the right type of person for this, they'd have wanted to dig their own trenches and help their teammates no?

    • @FLplinker
      @FLplinker 14 часов назад +46

      I had the same experience during my time in the Army from 88-96. We had 4 women in my boat unit (LCM-8) that if we had one of them on the boat crew (typically 4-5), that female had gender "seniority" to the one and only quiet and dry on the boat while off shift. That meaning, the other male crew members off shift would spend their downtime out in the weather. When we were off the boat and doing FTXs, the male soldiers would have to carry a portion of the females standard kit weight. We would have to dig their latrines, set up their tents in a female only area, and then post guard on their tent site. Every year, we all had to re-qualify for our PT tests and the female's expected passing number per event was always lower than the male counterparts were. Lastly, the female's monthly cycle would allow them to go on "light" duty. Long story short, women in the field with men were a hinderence (slowed down) the mission. There are plenty of military occupations out there that are better suited for female members. I didn't read a study to learn this, my experienced years in uniform taught me and my fellow male soldiers this same story.

    • @GilbertdeClare0704
      @GilbertdeClare0704 13 часов назад +6

      @@RVBadlands2015 Oh it is ALWAYS someone ELSES fault, isn't it !

    • @Rob-i9k
      @Rob-i9k 13 часов назад +2

      Did it ever occur to you that your CO was targeting you personally?

  • @mfcypher
    @mfcypher 14 часов назад +30

    The PRT tests (physical readiness tests) in the military have lower standards for women. Women aren't required to do as many push ups, sit ups, and the times for running are longer for women. The physical standards for women are rock bottom in the military.

  • @jackiedragonfly2461
    @jackiedragonfly2461 18 часов назад +123

    I really like her. She always takes care to phrase her answer perfectly, is really smart and keeps her cool. She should have a brilliant career in front of her.

    • @ryleighloughty3307
      @ryleighloughty3307 13 часов назад +2

      She avoided answering the question.

    • @moonasha
      @moonasha 13 часов назад +7

      @@ryleighloughty3307 she did answer it though. She said yes if they can pass the standards. But the standards have to reflect the reality of the job, and shouldn't be too hard or too easy. Try using your ears and the thing in between them

    • @dennisgill3459
      @dennisgill3459 13 часов назад +3

      @@ryleighloughty3307 She answered every question you obviously did not understand what she said

    • @ryleighloughty3307
      @ryleighloughty3307 12 часов назад +2

      @@dennisgill3459
      Are you saying that I am stupid?

    • @ryleighloughty3307
      @ryleighloughty3307 12 часов назад +4

      @@moonasha
      So, if you do not like a comment, you attack the writer?

  • @RealJeep
    @RealJeep 13 часов назад +8

    38 years as a soldier, sailor and professional firefighter, I have seen some things. I have seen women who couldn't rack a round into the M2 even though they were the gunner. I have seen the fire department lower physical standards so women could pass, lowering most of the upper body strength tasks and I have seen hanky panky on Navy ships because 20 somethings couldn't wait until the next port visit. It's a mess.

  • @bluetickfreddy101
    @bluetickfreddy101 17 часов назад +81

    lowering standards is never good
    case closed
    next question
    😊

  • @breich3
    @breich3 10 часов назад +13

    My concern with women in the military, especially combat, is they are a distraction. sorry to others that will complain about it but it's reality when you have a team full of men they all get in order and know what their job is to do and they fulfill it even when the ones that don't do the job they are taken care of one way or another. you can't do that to a woman like you can to a man it's just ain't going to happen. Men know they have a responsibility to defend and protect women, and if you put them in harm's way, that's where the distraction comes in.

    • @ZeeroDubs
      @ZeeroDubs Час назад +1

      I've said this so many times. Much to the consternation of people in our modern culture. Honorable men will absolutely treat a woman differently than they will a man. It is innate and will probably never change. Add to that the specific hygiene needs of a woman and the sexual tension, and it's not a recipe for success. It may be workable, but it's not optimal. Optimal should be the goal. This ain't a social club we're talking about. It's life or death.

  • @nukejets
    @nukejets 17 часов назад +367

    I served in an Army MEDEVAC unit when one of the first women was assigned as a flight medic. The first woman, after completing the qualification requirements to be a flight medic, had an emotional breakdown during her very first real life mission. The second woman assigned performed spectacularly! I believe that this dynamic also exists for males as well. Not everyone can do every job.

    • @dunebuggy1292
      @dunebuggy1292 15 часов назад +19

      It's not the same. We don't dispense with gender realities just because we like the tomboy, exception.

    • @thomasallisonstabler3478
      @thomasallisonstabler3478 15 часов назад +33

      Great assessment. I deployed to Balad as basically a server administrator. I left the base within the last 3 weeks of US presence on the base and it was starting to get hairy with rocket and mortar attacks increasing. There were some of my fellow male comms teammates that requested to leave early because they were struggling to maintain their wits with the increased risk. Yet there were females that stayed and worked right along side me closing down the bases data center until the very end. Each person is different.

    • @billyblanton8042
      @billyblanton8042 15 часов назад +3

      A flight medic doesn't run up and down hills you literally fly to where ya gotta go under the security of other attack helicopters or ISR and ground units for protection.

    • @billyblanton8042
      @billyblanton8042 15 часов назад +7

      As a flight medic how many times did ya knock down doors? Lmfao 😂 but yes us combat killers would and do love seeing a pretty face right before we die. I thank you for your stellar service 🙏

    • @TheBeanGreen
      @TheBeanGreen 15 часов назад +7

      100%. We need the same metrics for all individuals. If a woman can pass those, I trust her. If not, don't put me in a fox hole with her.

  • @vinny2195
    @vinny2195 13 часов назад +11

    Probably not many remember during the early push towards Baghdad two female soldiers got separated from their unit. Both tortured and assaulted, one soldier died the other survived but had all her leg & arm bones broken. The Iraqi doctor who sought out an American army unit to save the surviving soldier was given asylum in the U.S. for him and his family for his efforts.

    • @Cab520
      @Cab520 48 минут назад

      @@vinny2195 thank you for your comment and not tearing down the women for being.

  • @norwolf4765
    @norwolf4765 18 часов назад +115

    Women as support, but not in combat. The average woman could not pick up a wounded man and carry him in a combat situation. She has never had to do that......but I sill she is a great pick for the job she has been selected for.

    • @Crimsonedge1
      @Crimsonedge1 18 часов назад +9

      You'd be surprised what humans can do when the adrenaline is flowing. There are many reported instances of women lifting cars when a loved one is trapped underneath. Adrenaline is a hell of a thing.

    • @khatack
      @khatack 18 часов назад +11

      I don't think the average woman as you put it would even consider enlisting though.

    • @khatack
      @khatack 18 часов назад

      @@Crimsonedge1 There are also reports of alien abductions and unicorns. Don't believe everything you read.

    • @mylessalmon2569
      @mylessalmon2569 18 часов назад +3

      They can be pilots.

    • @victor_2216
      @victor_2216 18 часов назад +13

      @@Crimsonedge1 It's true that adrenaline helps with physical strength, but those reports are not the same as women bicep curling 1000 pounds; instead, it's usually just a fraction of the weight of the vehicle, which is still impressive, but not the weight of the whole car. Additionally, the muscles which are activated to 100% usage are very likely to be severely damaged, and the "strength boost" does not last nearly long enough for combat situations. Combat is not about a single 5 second window of increased strength and stamina, rather, combat is about continuously increasing requirements for high level of mental, emotional, and physical strength and stamina.

  • @richardhaw9757
    @richardhaw9757 14 часов назад +35

    What a lady, the complete package!

    • @salty-tomato
      @salty-tomato 3 часа назад

      Everywhere except home where she was needed

  • @Deedeedee214
    @Deedeedee214 16 часов назад +30

    1. Serving is a privilege, not a right; and jobs should be based on need, not opportunities.
    2. Not all combat roles are equal.
    3. If combat unit commanders can articulate a NEED for women in a certain role, so be it.
    4. Thankful for the men and women who have served.

    • @TexasTrad78
      @TexasTrad78 6 часов назад

      1. if it's a privilege then why do men have to sign draft cards?
      2. Clueless comment
      3. Another clueless comment
      4. Only thankful for those *combat* veterans (people sign up for selfish reasons, duh)
      These new "right-wing Feminists" have started to infiltrate our movement

    • @normangoldstuck8107
      @normangoldstuck8107 5 часов назад

      Serving was not a privilege for those of us who were conscripted. It was a privilege I for one could have done without.

    • @Nomenius1
      @Nomenius1 Час назад

      Ah, but you're misunderstanding the purpose of the US military. It's not a meritocratic task oriented entity. It's a jobs program. Both directly in that it will hire basically anyone with two feet and a heartbeat. And indirectly through the geographically (and thus politically) widespread defense industry.

  • @genecoppedge5972
    @genecoppedge5972 9 часов назад +5

    I asked my daughter this question about women serving on the front lines. She said she would go if ordered to go. She served four years in the NAVY, although she was an expert marksman she is only 5-2. Women do not belong on the front lines, even if they are capable.

  • @shalomhobbitess7509
    @shalomhobbitess7509 18 часов назад +190

    I think she's right; everyone needs to achieve the same standard. Women fought in the Civil War disguised as men and did a good job of it. The problem comes when the standards are changed "to allow more women to take the job," which has been the case in the US military for decades.

    • @GummeeH3
      @GummeeH3 18 часов назад +17

      why are you arguing the exception, not the rule?

    • @Kroh13
      @Kroh13 17 часов назад +12

      @@GummeeH3why are you assuming that women can’t do the job at all ? How fit are you ?

    • @africanpenguin3282
      @africanpenguin3282 16 часов назад +10

      It also promotes disharmony when your primary groups measure is being undermined inorder to "promote" numbers, especially when this scoring also affects your chances of promotion.

    • @RobertVetrano-r9n
      @RobertVetrano-r9n 16 часов назад +27

      any time a standard is lowered to include anyone, the product is diminished, and this could mean life or death

    • @BetaBuxDelux
      @BetaBuxDelux 16 часов назад +3

      @@Kroh13hahahaha

  • @tomgoodwin9161
    @tomgoodwin9161 13 часов назад +8

    Two things; First, I have heard from German veterans and read about the women in the Soviet Army who were matched against the German Wermacht. The policy of the Germans was to immediately liquidate female prisoners. And exactly the same for female partisan fighters as well. No time was alotted for sexual assaults. Interrogation was carried out, sometimes, and then a pistol shot to the back of the head. Period. Second, I was infantry in Vietnam. 1st Brigade, 101st Airborne Division Volunteered to go back twice more. I have never personally served around a woman who could do my job in a rifle company, in battalion Recon platoon or later, in the 1st Brigade LRRP platoon. When the leader says "pick up the gun" the M240 machine gun weighs about 27 pounds and the ammo is seven pounds per hundred rounds. Basic load was five hundred rounds. "You do what you gotta do". That includes putting a 180 pound casualty on a hovering med-evac. If you can't do your part, you shouldn't be there. WAR IS NOT A SOCIAL STATEMENT.

  • @johnreynolds875
    @johnreynolds875 14 часов назад +49

    I was glad that Jordan brought up the issue of women as potential POWs. I think whether they choose to face that eventuality men need to say no. We have lost the moral principle of men's responsibility to protect women. When men do not accept that responsibility we are lost as a nation and as a human race.

    • @GilbertdeClare0704
      @GilbertdeClare0704 13 часов назад +3

      What about the Kurdish YPJ ? ? ? All women, and they kicked ISIL's ass !
      IF, or when, the SHTF, women DO need to be prepared and ABLE to step up, as Russian women did during WW2 ?
      Absolutely NO lowering of standards, but women HAVE to regain that ability.
      The women of SOE in WW2 fought JUST as bravely as any "Man"

    • @the1joyster
      @the1joyster 13 часов назад +3

      @@GilbertdeClare0704agreed. What we have is a severe culture issue of women not being treated with the same pressure of responsibility as men. Moreover we have a fitness issue across the country. As a female veteran I hated the segregated PT standards and often did better than some of my male colleagues without trying very hard. It comes down to discipline and your mental toughness. What makes men and women extraordinary is what they are willing to put themselves thru and endure. We need a warrior culture and I believe that would reduce the amount of sexual assaults for both men and women and the idea of personal responsibility that you carry to be a productive citizen would be very healthy and beneficial for society. Everyone needs to carry their weight.

    • @ScentlessSun
      @ScentlessSun 12 часов назад +2

      I personally would fight harder knowing I had women in my unit that needed me. I would venture this would be true for many men that feel protective of women. Fighting harder is something that should also be considered. There’s another aspect to the morality question. Is it moral to deny someone the opportunity to do something they want to do just because they were born a female? I hear you on their views of traditional morality concerning women, but it’s not our place to tell them what they can and can’t do as long as they meet the performance standard.

    • @zs9652
      @zs9652 12 часов назад +2

      That moral responsibilty is propaganda. Only the women in a man's life that help him deserve that privelege. Everyone else is owed an equal amount of respect and protection that is significantly less than what is owed to your immediate family.
      A random woman is no more valuable to a man than another man.

    • @GilbertdeClare0704
      @GilbertdeClare0704 12 часов назад

      @@the1joyster I SO, SO, SO agree with you my friend ! DEFINITELY ! It is so TOTALLY that RETURN of that Warrior Culture that is desperately needed ! I read in a Post war report that the Female Agents of SOE who were captured and tortured, on average, resisted torture BETTER than men, and hardly EVER betrayed their fellow soldiers or civilians helping them.
      My Ex was better at shooting kneeling, than I was, yet prone or standing, I was better.
      Driving a Russian T55 or Ferret Scout Car and SHE was the better driver of both. She also got her Hanggliding EP1 and EP2 faster than I did, yet the reverse with Skydiving.
      I have seen it in my work as a Therapist that schools come down MUCH harder on GIRLS getting aggressive than boys, which TEACHES them to turn it all inwards.
      LEGITIMISING that healthy assertion/aggression in our culture where all kids LEARN not to fear it but to CONTROL it, and then NO reduction in standard whatsoever, creates the BEST person for the job.
      It is the TASK that matters, not whether one has a d*ck between one's legs

  • @stansfield-p3p
    @stansfield-p3p 13 часов назад +9

    Former combat soldier here; keep women out infantry, sof, etc. Any trigger pulling ground combat units period. If you can't carry or drag any of your team mates to safety if they get hit, then you are in the wrong place. Secondly, we don't have time for your time of the month in the field and what comes with that. Plenty of other mil jobs out there for women. The women that passed Ranger school is because standards were lowered, and there is documented proof of this.

  • @RobertVetrano-r9n
    @RobertVetrano-r9n 16 часов назад +42

    if a man and women are fighting side by side and the woman gets shot or injured, the man can carry them out oif the line of fire to safety.... A woman COULD NOT pick up a 220lb man and carry them to safety... maybe drag them out of the line of fire, but you would end up with 2 dead soldiers... they are NOT physically capable.. period

    • @Youaretheactionsofgod
      @Youaretheactionsofgod 14 часов назад +6

      This. Is. A. Fact.

    • @RonniePeterson
      @RonniePeterson 13 часов назад +7

      Neither could all men. As she said, single selection standard for men and women who want to serve. If you meet it your in.

    • @Youaretheactionsofgod
      @Youaretheactionsofgod 13 часов назад +7

      @RonniePeterson women couldn't meet it, that's the only reason it changed

    • @jugendamthamburg-ggkonform381
      @jugendamthamburg-ggkonform381 13 часов назад +5

      I am female and was an Army medic and agree. Job assignments and training and expectations need to be realistic. I would have had to drag a wounded soldier out, no way I could carry one.

    • @Deimonos85
      @Deimonos85 13 часов назад +3

      @@RonniePeterson stop simping brah.. it wont help you

  • @simpleisbetter4132
    @simpleisbetter4132 52 минуты назад

    I love that discussions like this are happening!

  • @kevinallen9009
    @kevinallen9009 17 часов назад +45

    My dad was a WW 2 airman in the 8th Air Force, shot down over Germany and captured. 16 months in. POW camp transformed a healthy 170 pound man into a 98 pound skeleton on the verge of death when liberated. He and I had many detailed discussions about his time in captivity and there were many horrors that he was the victim of. He was an extraordinary man who lived with his PTSD the best he could. He was an excellent provider to me and my siblings and set an example of honesty, hard work and patriotism. But one can now see how troubled he was from his wartime experience. I do not believe it is wise to put any woman in this possible environment due to the obvious additional physical risks from potential enemy sexual predators. I beg our military to not put our treasured women, the possible mothers of our people, in this kind of harms way. No way is this a good idea. I guarantee my father would be against the notion of women in front line combat because of this.

    • @derektinsley9500
      @derektinsley9500 13 часов назад

      Yes and here is a very important issue that most have missed. A woman's first responsibility in society is to keep the population up which is a tough and time consuming role. In all out war in which there would be no civilians a savvy commander would make women the prime target; Ultimately no female soldiers, then no male soldiers, anywhere. The war is over.

    • @JFitable
      @JFitable 10 часов назад +2

      My concern is that people think this level of depravity and soulless behavior is something the modern world wouldn't see like "the old days". There are two guarantees in every war since the very first one in human history all the way to the last: 1) War brings out the absolute worst in humanity and 2) The monsters created in war were really not meant to be there and are only there at the behest of the rich and powerful - the true monsters of our world.
      We think war is a civilized necessity. I only see it as a direct correlation to wealth and power.
      Your father was an American hero who sacrificed much for this country. I hope he is well in the afterlife, or whatever version of that he believed in.

    • @ELFR1205
      @ELFR1205 5 часов назад

      Women who are in the military chose to be there. No one is forcing Women or men to join. In the case of a war, we need as many people as we can get to fight, man or woman. Use common sense.

    • @JohnSmith-yc6uv
      @JohnSmith-yc6uv 49 минут назад

      ​@@ELFR1205
      Yeah?....
      (Looks at the soviet union and china)
      Ummmmmm....quality over quantity, you ridiculous communist.

  • @davidbettney785
    @davidbettney785 5 часов назад +4

    He touched on it but they didn't go deeper...The effect on the morale of fighting units severely drops if a woman/women is killed/injured in combat. When another man dies it's sad, but mainly affects the soldier's friends...When a woman dies, it affects everybody. I don't think DEI belongs in the military :(

  • @jeremyshaw3846
    @jeremyshaw3846 16 часов назад +137

    Woman are Liability in Combat....The Priority becomes to Protect the Woman than to Complete the Task....A Captured Woman is Demoralizing

    • @thadofalltrades
      @thadofalltrades 15 часов назад +6

      That's a consideration, but I think it should be the woman's decision whether she wants to place herself in that situation, assuming she can meet the standard. No question, being captured is going to be way worse for a woman than a man.
      I think the biggest liability is the risk of relationships forming and that immediately changes the order of priority.

    • @rlhicks1
      @rlhicks1 15 часов назад +28

      @@thadofalltrades No, it's not her decision. If combat effectiveness increases with mixed personnel then fine. The Marines did a study and that wasn't the case. Mixed personnel faired worse in combat scenarios.

    • @centariprime9959
      @centariprime9959 15 часов назад

      @@thadofalltrades Disagree. Women should not be in combat. Women should be in support roles only, well away from the front lines. If a man is down, his fellow male soldiers have the strength to retrieve him. A women soldier does not. She is a liability.

    • @thadofalltrades
      @thadofalltrades 15 часов назад

      @rlhicks1 that's a different argument though. That goes into standards. That's not what I was addressing. If you set standards and a woman meets them, she should be permitted to participate and it's her choice to do so. If the standard is no women in combat scenarios then the discussion is over.

    • @TheBeanGreen
      @TheBeanGreen 15 часов назад +1

      ​@@rlhicks1Fair point. I agree

  • @scubasteve2532
    @scubasteve2532 11 часов назад +8

    I have heard that women in combat can be a psychological hindrance for the men due to the protective nature of these men. A woman in danger in combat compared to a man in danger can cause a pause in quick judgment for the safety of the female that can cause far more casualties. Anyone else hear this?

    • @rachelrose8515
      @rachelrose8515 10 часов назад +3

      That’s definitely true too

    • @ELFR1205
      @ELFR1205 4 часа назад

      So you're saying that women don't let their emotions cloud their judgment when in combat, but men do. I don't think a man too emotional to do his job should be in the military.

    • @Arabi-Rasgulle-ka-Gulla
      @Arabi-Rasgulle-ka-Gulla 50 минут назад

      So its men's problem not women 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @paulaponte1309
    @paulaponte1309 15 часов назад +36

    She has great clarity and wisdom.

  • @hornet232
    @hornet232 9 часов назад +6

    If it's not fair for women to play a game/ sports against a man....then how in the hell is it ok and effective for women to fight in combat against a man??? When it's life or death and not just game where you go back home in a couple hours. Explain that insanity to me. WTF

  • @aasja7739
    @aasja7739 16 часов назад +15

    I am a man. But your words match my basic feelings also. But I would prefer women far far away from fighting.

  • @AlanRoehrich9651
    @AlanRoehrich9651 10 часов назад +1

    One standard. Excellence. One physical standadrd. No lower standard for any reason.

  • @kathleenmueller8660
    @kathleenmueller8660 14 часов назад +15

    Thoughtfully answered.

  • @adorablydeplorable7580
    @adorablydeplorable7580 11 часов назад +5

    I’m a vet, I’m also a woman, I don’t believe 99% of the women that I was with would not want to be on the front lines. I don’t think we were physically able to do that job. But, if a woman could pass the same PT scores as men, but not lowered for women scores, then I say yes. But the standards for women are always lower for females..

  • @RubyGarnet
    @RubyGarnet 17 часов назад +32

    I agree with TG and if a person meets the standard they should be able to do that job, but DO NOT lower the standard for anyone. It takes a special person to enlist in the military, another kind of special to want to enlist in infantry, and then it gets even more special for any sort of special forces. The standard should weed out the weak, period.

    • @RobertVetrano-r9n
      @RobertVetrano-r9n 16 часов назад

      if a woman can pick up and carry a 220lb man out of the line of fire, so be it, but unless it is the late Joanie Laurie (Chyna from WWE) people will die

    • @Youaretheactionsofgod
      @Youaretheactionsofgod 14 часов назад

      Women can't do the job, that's why the standard is there. And women can't reach the standard, that's why they were lowered. Women do not deserve to be in combat positions.

    • @stochastic42
      @stochastic42 13 часов назад +5

      Her perspective is quite reasonable but there are additional reasons to select men that simply don't have to be measured when you select only men such as bone density. The reality is that women are simply far more expensive to train and deploy for jobs such as infantry because they spend so much time injured.

  • @TheBeaker59
    @TheBeaker59 13 часов назад +4

    Another aspect in a mixed unit the men in the group will always prefer the male specialist in harms way because men are hard wired to protect women and children first. Therefore each group has reduced availability of specialist skills, and the men in the group will expose themselves more and more often.

  • @jeffandsherriefranzwa8970
    @jeffandsherriefranzwa8970 18 часов назад +28

    Along with having the mental and physical requirements for the job, you have to look at the overall effectiveness and casualty rates of mixed sex units vs all male units, and even all female units. Then follow the data. Mothers shouldn't have to grieve their lost children for social engineering.

    • @MrPhixdIt
      @MrPhixdIt 15 часов назад

      Obviously all male units will perform the best.. if the women have a lower physical performance standard than the men they end up becoming a hindrance to the team making it a less effective unit as they wont be able to carry their own weight.. in frontline combat at least

  • @metoonunyabidness1391
    @metoonunyabidness1391 9 часов назад +1

    The standards by themselves is not enough.
    Team dynamics and paternalism will always play a part.
    Men in a high stress environment will act differently towards women.

  • @Stevarooni
    @Stevarooni 17 часов назад +21

    So long as the test is the test and not the test "but we need women, so we can waive this requirement".

    • @plumeria66
      @plumeria66 15 часов назад

      That’s wokery that Trump will root out, which is why he picked Pete Hegseth for Secretary of Defense.

  • @broncogirl8232
    @broncogirl8232 12 часов назад +17

    As a woman and retired firefighter I can attest to the fact that no matter how tough you think you are as a woman, an out of shape man of equal height is much stronger!
    In my prime I was a power lifter and very athletic. I could out lift, out run, out climb most and keep up with the guys.
    My muscles were to much for my tendons to handle. My body started to break down. I’m now old and I’ve had 20+ orthopedic surgeries!
    I’m no feminist I just loved doing the same thing guys enjoyed. Had women been able to sign up for combat duty back in the day I would have been at the front of the line!
    Being older and wiser now I know women should NOT be allowed to fight on our front lines. Also standards should never be lowered in any way for the military, law enforcement or fire departments along with others!

    • @jjudy5869
      @jjudy5869 8 часов назад

      Amen, my joints and tendons are shot 'doing the job, so I could earn the pay.'

  • @shaulkramer7425
    @shaulkramer7425 18 часов назад +53

    Make the standard high. If there's a woman who can meet the standard, then great, otherwise no.

    • @Kroh13
      @Kroh13 17 часов назад +4

      Make the standards high for the men then . I met plenty of men that couldn’t pass the tests

    • @MadDogDaviz
      @MadDogDaviz 17 часов назад

      Stop hating on Nature.
      Changing enlistment standards due to dangerously low enlistment is different than changing the underlined premise of protection built within our biological coding (DNA).
      I don't think women shouldn't be allowed to enlist but, the pool of women vs. men meeting physical and mental standards will be much smaller.
      Standards for combat should be across the board, any variation would directly put lives at risk.
      ​@@Kroh13

    • @BM-fz9yc
      @BM-fz9yc 16 часов назад +10

      @@Kroh13the standards are high for the men. It’s inappropriate to lower them for women.

    • @shaulkramer7425
      @shaulkramer7425 16 часов назад +1

      @@Kroh13 that's true. Standards have been dropping steadily for too long.

    • @ceejay1476
      @ceejay1476 14 часов назад +4

      @@Kroh13 Well, they are, the problem is right now in most physical jobs we have 1 standard for men and a different altogether for women that has much lower requirements, which is ridiculous.

  • @MeanBeanComedy
    @MeanBeanComedy 9 часов назад +5

    No. Keep em out!

  • @aramcartozian6084
    @aramcartozian6084 16 часов назад +7

    As an old Nam Vet all I wanted was someone who could/would do their job and do it well. I wasn't trained to bake cookies and do needle point.

    • @jdilksjr
      @jdilksjr 8 часов назад

      @@le13579 Twist words, much?

    • @le13579
      @le13579 7 часов назад

      @@jdilksjr No, but arguing with a Vietnam vet is poor form on my part. So I'll delete my words.

  • @rpercifieldjr
    @rpercifieldjr 9 часов назад +2

    I am a retired Paramedic with 17+ years in EMS. I am retired because the standard for women physically was less than what was required for men. I had to do all of the heavy work. Anything that took physical power or effort was mine to do. I injured both of my shoulders with this female partner. I was the first she took out, and after the third person injured by her inability to perform, she was moved out of the field work. Having a physically capable woman can be helpful, but without that ability to carry the weight of the tasks to be delivered, someone always gets hurt.
    This stupidity has to stop.

  • @81realtime
    @81realtime 8 часов назад +7

    The Israeli military studied women in combat and found that captured female soldiers are significantly more valuable to the enemy. Also, men tend to not follow orders when women are in danger and will do what it takes to protect the women, perhaps endangering themself, others and perhaps the fate of their nation. It has been argued that men should be trained otherwise. What is the cost of training men to disregard their instincts to protect women?

  • @beershortage
    @beershortage 6 часов назад +4

    Bleeding once a month, for a week, is a disqualifier for any frontline, trench duty

    • @ELFR1205
      @ELFR1205 4 часа назад

      Why? Women don't just bleed out, have you perhaps considered taking a health class?

  • @mountainmama898
    @mountainmama898 16 часов назад +17

    I have to say that it always made me sad and upset at seeing videos of women returning from being deployed who left their babies behind. As a mother, I could never have done that.

  • @apeape06
    @apeape06 12 часов назад +3

    I'm glad she says that skills rank out above all else... there are some combat vets who are male who disagree with this but i don't. You got the skills? Then you get the job, as it should be

  • @R8135003
    @R8135003 18 часов назад +37

    I served in the RAF and for me it is not how women operate on the front line but what would happen to them if caught my an enemy.
    Every fibre of my soul wants to protect women from harm.
    If that makes me a fossil then so be it.
    From 25 miles north of London, be lucky stay safe.

    • @pistonburner6448
      @pistonburner6448 17 часов назад +8

      I did my basic training in a unit when they took in the first ever female recruits. I feel just as you do, the main thing is I and others would be distracted by our feeling of need to protect them.
      Then on top of that I saw that even though officially no exceptions were made and no standards were lowered, in reality it was almost like having a politician visit the unit with how much effort was done to cater to their special needs.
      So many units (not all) also have such physical requirements (note: especially when you add in the need of extreme endurance things get even more skewed) that very few women will be able to hold their own. In our unit only a fraction of the females could really handle themselves, and the resources put in for that low return was ridiculous.

    • @pistonburner6448
      @pistonburner6448 17 часов назад +11

      I think one thing is forgotten here: The cost to the military per soldier. The military's mission is to protect the nation, not to cater to the self-expression desires of a handful of women. If it's too much of a hassle to upend the whole process just for the handful of women who *_might_* qualify then there should be no imperative to do that. Keep things simple, save money, be effective.

    • @Speedyvampir2
      @Speedyvampir2 15 часов назад +1

      You dont feel the same to protect a fellow man ?

    • @R8135003
      @R8135003 15 часов назад

      @ Maybe just maybe it is something that is engrained so deep that it goes back to a basic animal instinct.
      A cock will put itself between a fox and its hens.
      Not sure how else I can explain it.

    • @dakotathompson8062
      @dakotathompson8062 8 часов назад

      That is exactly why women have no place in the military

  • @ViejoLocuelo
    @ViejoLocuelo 9 часов назад +6

    I’m sorry, the sexes are not equal. For example, menstruation is not a thing for men, and it can have an effect on capabilities.
    So yes, by all means select for ability first, but take into consideration that humans not hermaphrodites.

  • @stratoman5504
    @stratoman5504 16 часов назад +46

    My son was career Army. He told us that women do not have the physical strength and that they get frightened when faced with combat.

    • @pianoreigns
      @pianoreigns 15 часов назад +10

      Common sense should tell us that. Absolutely true

    • @RVBadlands2015
      @RVBadlands2015 15 часов назад +4

      If they met the qualifications they should be given the opportunity.

    • @TheBeanGreen
      @TheBeanGreen 14 часов назад +2

      I think that's definitely true in most cases. Of course there are always exceptions though. But we need to hold them to the same level of scrutiny we do with men.

    • @leviwilliams9601
      @leviwilliams9601 14 часов назад +8

      ​@@RVBadlands2015 They can't meet the male standards.

    • @humantacos9800
      @humantacos9800 13 часов назад +6

      The only women I noticed could handle it were a few lesbians, but even they didn't have the upper body strength.

  • @DavidKylez
    @DavidKylez 11 часов назад +5

    What they failed to discuss is that men in combat along side women are protective over their female counterparts and that took away their focus from being the best combat soldier they could be. Very dangerous.

  • @rubenangelvarisco9719
    @rubenangelvarisco9719 16 часов назад +12

    Tulsi is elusive with women on war. Anyway woman with kids is not moral to sacrifice them on war.

    • @pianoreigns
      @pianoreigns 15 часов назад +4

      💯

    • @carnivorehitman
      @carnivorehitman 14 часов назад +2

      Absolutely!!! 👍🏻

    • @alfredbenedek3398
      @alfredbenedek3398 13 часов назад

      THE ATTKING ENEMY, WON'T ASK A MOTHER? MAY I ATTACK YOU? MAY I COME BACK TUESDAY @ 2:35 ? ? THEY ATTAK KILL ETC. !! KIDS OR NO KIDS?!!

  • @altopstwo3934
    @altopstwo3934 7 часов назад +1

    Well I think it equally worthy of note to consider the effects of a female soldier being blown apart and that being witnessed by her fellow troops?

  • @torbreww
    @torbreww 15 часов назад +7

    Allow women the choice to go into the military, but don’t place them in a position to put others at risk

  • @benthere8051
    @benthere8051 14 часов назад +6

    Russian Female POWs in WWII got the worst treatment imaginable.

  • @mannurse7421
    @mannurse7421 16 часов назад +6

    100% agree military should be 100% voluntary

  • @TheVagolfer
    @TheVagolfer 14 часов назад +5

    I like Tulsi, but women should not be in combat, end of story. They can help in many valuable roles, but we do not need to put women in harms way, that's a societal mindset.

  • @picrr529
    @picrr529 17 часов назад +23

    Being able or "qualified" is one thing. Being captured, and subsequent treatment as a female prisoner by enemies who do not follow the rules of combat is another entirely. Thank you, doctor, for raising an extremely important point that few have the parts to speak about openly. I agree the soldier may have made the choice to accept that possibility but the rest of her group will be affected heavily by what they imagine is happening to their captured comrade and that may have an affect on their effectiveness.

    • @bootsfund8012
      @bootsfund8012 16 часов назад

      Men get raped also. Are there statistics on rape for male POWS and are they reliable? Men used to be less likely to report rape than women.

    • @zs9652
      @zs9652 12 часов назад

      Yes from what I have studied, units should be separated by sex. Let women be in roles where the natural instincts of everyone enhances effectiveness.

    • @SteveMeade-mq6mv
      @SteveMeade-mq6mv 12 часов назад

      I worked with one of Jessica's fellow soldiers at APG, MD. We talked about how that went down. That poor soldier went through hell until she was rescued. SGT__ said that what they did with female soldiers was terrifying. Based on conversations with SGT _____, what they did to him was also terrifying. Female soldiers should never be put in that situation regardless if they volunteered knowing it could happen to them. United States Army (SFC/Retired 1985-2007) JM2

  • @emikke
    @emikke 3 часа назад +1

    Even if some people are not suited for combat roles, there are lots of roles they can contribute in. I think it's more important that military service is voluntary. They don't have to be the best, they just have to be good enough. Plenty of women are good enough, so don't deny them the opportunity if they want it

  • @jamesstockton3777
    @jamesstockton3777 14 часов назад +9

    Standards should be Standard.

    • @notlikely4468
      @notlikely4468 13 часов назад

      It's not about "standards"
      I met the standard
      But when I was on patrol as a medic in Afghanistan I was shit scared ALL THE TIME
      That we'd get into the shit and I wouldn't be fast enough...or strong enough...or good enough
      Standards are for training
      Just good enough ain't good enough when lives are on the line
      I'm grateful I never had to pass that test

  • @Dewa-s3i
    @Dewa-s3i Час назад

    Yeah, Tulsi changed my perception on women in the field. She's great.

  • @thistagworked
    @thistagworked 8 часов назад +3

    Why doesn’t anyone talk about the differences between men and women during adrenaline rushes. Average or weak men could perform better under pressure than strong women because men gain lots of strength when adrenaline is pumping.

  • @HeavyK.
    @HeavyK. 14 часов назад +51

    The men get distracted to protect women during combat.

    • @notlikely4468
      @notlikely4468 13 часов назад

      In an ambush/IUD blast I really doubt you have time to check the gender of the person next to you

    • @TolgaAtamtuerk
      @TolgaAtamtuerk 13 часов назад +5

      i think a professional won't get distracted by that in serious situations.

    • @alfredbenedek3398
      @alfredbenedek3398 13 часов назад +1

      In combat, it's not a courtessy rumba?? ! It's discipline - quick witt / thinking! And a whole lot of, common sense! HHMMM?WHAT? WHAT?! WHATS? - THAT PATRIOT'S . . OH - O YES, LIKE Lt. Col. GABBARD !!🗽

    • @arronmac2925
      @arronmac2925 10 часов назад +3

      @@TolgaAtamtuerk If I was in combat with someone who looked like Tulsi next to me, Yes I and many other Men would be distracted...even if it's for a second...that's when someone could get killed

    • @101stairborne6
      @101stairborne6 6 часов назад

      @@arronmac2925then YOU don’t belong in the military if you’re that mentally weak!

  • @NekoShogun34
    @NekoShogun34 14 часов назад +4

    I served with a few badass female soldiers. They were outliers for their sex, but were probably in the lower 50% percentile when it came to physical strength and endurance of their male counterparts.
    When we hear "combat" most people picture infantry fighting, but that's just one element. Aviation, armor, artillery make more sense to be integrated than more physically demanding branches like Infantry or Engineers.

  • @3vil3lvis
    @3vil3lvis 7 часов назад +1

    If I had one wish for Jordan Peterson, it would be that he accept the position of Surgeon General so that he might work on the problem of children's mental health in schools, the mental health of our homeless population, and the mental health of the nation as a whole. This task is monumental, and I can think of no one more capable than Jordan Peterson.

    • @rltreasure
      @rltreasure 5 часов назад

      He’s Canadian. He may not qualify but brilliant idea!

  • @danfreeman9079
    @danfreeman9079 15 часов назад +5

    SET STANDARDS. People are not equally skilled. Thank you Tulsi Gabbard.

  • @wannabe_sailor_777smith6
    @wannabe_sailor_777smith6 14 часов назад +13

    There is a point here that’s not being made about this topic. I don’t think Americans are ready to see a female soldier who may get captured being abused in every way possible by an enemy who thinks that females are inferior to men and are very cruel to their own women. Please address this issue before you go any further on this issue.

  • @wzrd9s
    @wzrd9s 14 часов назад +5

    In about 1982, in Germany, we had a monthly Status report showing that 4% of my 3rd Infantry Division was pregnant. That 4% was not deployable. Is that anyway to run an army?

  • @Keyprinciples9
    @Keyprinciples9 6 часов назад +3

    I had to pick up the slack from both men,and woman who I worked with in the military because they lacked the physical strength to lift heavy bomb racks, launchers and Pylons. The Navy knows what jobs are physically demanding, and yes there should be physical standards to screen people out of those jobs to make it fair for the people who have to do extra work. Equality does not work when heavy shit has to be lifted.

  • @johnslagboom1836
    @johnslagboom1836 16 часов назад +9

    Let's settle this once and for all for combat positions. Can you fireman carry by yourself a 200-pound wounded comrade 50 yards? If you can't, you are not qualified!

  • @spdbggy9675
    @spdbggy9675 7 часов назад +1

    Lower the standards. Lower the outcome. Everyone loses.

  • @MickAngelhere
    @MickAngelhere 13 часов назад +10

    In my neighbourhood recently there was a wood chopping carnival, women were competing against the men. The stark contrast between women and men in the competition was very, very evident.
    The women were struggling to cut through the first half of the log when the men had finished cutting right through their logs, not only that they had to rest in between chopping strokes on their second half of the logs. A bloke in his seventies was competing against the women and he still finished way ahead of them.
    The ladies were all in their twenties and large but they didn’t have the physical stamina and strength as the men

    • @ELFR1205
      @ELFR1205 5 часов назад +1

      Chopping wood for a one time carnival is very different than training for combat. Women and men who are in the military train for it, the average man or woman will not have the same abilities as a woman or a man in the military. You are far too old to be that ignorant.

  • @acesib
    @acesib 47 минут назад

    She listens well. She has great sense
    And she is eloquent. She will do well as the DNI.

  • @mikailthelesser3030
    @mikailthelesser3030 14 часов назад +14

    Know a woman who is so proud that her 30's old Daughter in the KY Nat Guard has had 6 children and gets to bring a child to her 'work' as well as time for Breast feeding. Add that to time off for bonding. Time off for appointments and the actual birth. Non-deployable for nearly an entire year ...for EACH kid. Errrrrrr, how much has she actually done for/in her unit??? I'm confident she has been DEI promoted regularly. Insanity ... non Deployable...What a tough/prepared 'Army'. WIH are we paying for.
    Bring back the WACS and Waves. Keep them from important positions affecting logistics for deployed soldiers and nowhere near the combat zone and ESPECIALLY away from Combat positions. Remember the Maine Remember Pearl Harbor. Remember 9/11...Remember Gulf war POW Jessica Lynch (look her up). Not questioning patriotism...just encouraging common sense. Your quotient of killing people and breaking things declines when a good percentage of your fighting force is pregnant and undeployable. We're not even talking about strength differential yet. All this weakens the force (soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines)...in the field... DUH.
    US Army Ret.

    • @ELFR1205
      @ELFR1205 4 часа назад

      Why are you so involved in someone else's business?

  • @susannemichel6911
    @susannemichel6911 9 часов назад +1

    Love your interviews Dr Peterson, but please let your guest speak more, than you do. Thank you

  • @TraceyCurry-cn5cp
    @TraceyCurry-cn5cp 14 часов назад +4

    Great answer.

  • @acb9896
    @acb9896 11 часов назад +3

    That is the only answer:
    The best PERSON for the job.
    In the military, law enforcement, fire fighters EVERY member will have to carry a collegue or victim from danger one day and a 140 pound male because of his PHYSIOLOGY will be able to do that better than a 140 lbs female. Because WE ARE BUILT DIFFERENTLY.

  • @haytroid6499
    @haytroid6499 10 часов назад +2

    Men act differently when women are present.

  • @yaasikasa17
    @yaasikasa17 18 часов назад +62

    Women are for nature and nurture not for aggression and roids.

    • @Winniebit
      @Winniebit 13 часов назад

      Perfect way to put it💯

    • @le13579
      @le13579 11 часов назад

      Perhaps that's gilding the lily. Some women are very aggressive and need a healthy outlet; have you seen roller derby or women's rugby?
      I think the bigger issue is the devaluation of motherhood by women.

    • @ELFR1205
      @ELFR1205 4 часа назад

      And you think a man is for aggression and raids, that's all they are good for?

  • @paddycalrissian1468
    @paddycalrissian1468 9 часов назад +2

    It isn't just the standards however. It is the relationship between men and women, under stress, specifically combat, and how that interferes with unit effectiveness.

  • @kristadavis2825
    @kristadavis2825 14 часов назад +4

    Besides the physical standards, as a woman who has extensively study reproduction and psychology, I fear what hormone swings can cause. I have personally experienced depression from birth control, extreme PMS plus hemorrhaging from monthly cycles, and postpartum psychosis. I’ve known many women with similar experiences and even worse the first 5 years of menopause with rage becoming uncomfortable.

    • @9395gb
      @9395gb 8 часов назад

      You've never been around male soldiers. They can be out of control and it's due to their hormones also.

  • @jamellelangfordiii3586
    @jamellelangfordiii3586 9 часов назад +1

    So, my problem with women on the front line is that a man will be more likely to stupidly risk his life to save a woman than he would a man. I think it is not only culturally instilled in us, but spiritually, and innately part of our being. Just like I could sleep through a train, but will be wide awake if I hear my child crying.... It is in my nature I think.

  • @JohnDavidson-qu4eo
    @JohnDavidson-qu4eo 13 часов назад +4

    Women make great nurses n wakes in combat mash units but dont put them on front lines its idiotic 😮

  • @BuggaUgga
    @BuggaUgga 5 часов назад +1

    There are units for support, medical, administrative, technical, ... where some things like physical strength are not so important.

  • @paulycoleman98
    @paulycoleman98 18 часов назад +149

    Combat is a man’s job.

    • @yaasikasa17
      @yaasikasa17 18 часов назад +11

      REAL MEN

    • @geemail369
      @geemail369 17 часов назад

      2:27

    • @AmaraegbuIheanyichukwu-ip5zl
      @AmaraegbuIheanyichukwu-ip5zl 17 часов назад +3

      God have mercy 🙏 pls Lord

    • @Kroh13
      @Kroh13 17 часов назад +9

      Women have been in combat for decades buddy , get a grip , they also have been around combat and in the area since the civil war . There aren’t enough men anymore who will sign up to fight , so yes women should be allowed to fight for their country . Look around not every man is fit to fight either .. people can be taught and trained .

    • @justinm4497
      @justinm4497 17 часов назад +10

      @@Kroh13 yeah, usually raped and murdered, or enslaved. there may be exceptions in history, like the russian girl who fought in WW1, but most women do not want to be shot at. although I do respect women who do.

  • @kirinkappa5662
    @kirinkappa5662 2 часа назад

    Instead of lowering standards for military, increase standards of your adults, America!

  • @eewtubeBites
    @eewtubeBites 10 часов назад +3

    Having been close to some combat military special forces types - men - they had tremendous compassion for females on the front line and felt distracted to protect them where their focus should have been on the mission ahead. women should not be bodily on the front line in combat because no thing can prepare either gender from the horrors of war. frankly it is a mental/emotional burden. everything has it's place period dot.

  • @metoo7557
    @metoo7557 3 часа назад +1

    Should standards be reduced to be inclusive?
    Never.
    The standards are set, to meet the excellence required.
    If that excludes and entire gender, than find another position you can attain.

  • @lib556
    @lib556 14 часов назад +4

    Good discussion. Standards must be maintained.
    In 1988, under pressure from feminists etc, the Canadian Govt directed the armed forces to conduct a trial on the employment of women in the combat arms. For the infantry (my branch) the trial could never reach its start point. To be conducted, it required the close observation of 60 female infantry soldiers (30 English and 30 French) in a unit for 3 years. They couldn't get to a start point because the female recruits could not pass infantry depot training. Only one anglophone made it through and I served in the same bn as her. Since the trial could not start, the geniuses at Human Rights declared it invalid and ordered the CF to open all trades to women. That was 35 years ago.
    In an odd twist this order relieved a lot of pressure. The recruiting system was going nuts convincing many female applicants to choose infantry so the trial could start. Thank God the training depots stuck rigidly to their standards. Once the order to allow it happened, much of that artificial pressure was gone. Realistically we don't do naive females any favours by tricking them to go infantry! Many have done it. Many have been successful. One of our regular force infantry bns currently has a female CO.
    Bottom line is equality of opportunity and not equality of outcomes. It takes unique, special women to succeed in the infantry. They are very rare. We give them the opportunity to attempt it with no diminishment of standards. It has to be that way. There cannot be 2 standards for infantry warfighting. There's the infantry standard... period. As a result, of all the combat arms, infantry has the fewest females in it... by far.

  • @stephtimms1776
    @stephtimms1776 8 часов назад +1

    What effects a woman's physical, mental, and emotional stability also effects her potential children. So, it's not just a matter of what risks she's willing to take for herself at the time. Women are needed to be nurturing and stable as mothers for the sake of the new generations.

    • @9395gb
      @9395gb 7 часов назад

      So what are men? Disposable m

    • @ELFR1205
      @ELFR1205 4 часа назад

      Not all women can have kids?

  • @clarkgriswold-zr5sb
    @clarkgriswold-zr5sb 16 часов назад +4

    Even if a combat service woman accepts and understands the horrific consequences of falling into some of our barbaric enemies hands, they are not able to mitigate the emotional impact on that woman’s fellow male soldiers. Being normal men who have developed some relationship with the women in the unit, will feel a greater obligation upon themselves to defend or offset what may happen to the woman. It’s genetics.