As someone who doesn’t own a home but helps my parents occasionally with these, I imagine these would allow us to do proper work and not just rely on those cheap plastic tubings anymore. Very impressive!
Very Cool! Really Amazing tools Both M18 & M12. Definitely Game changing tools I've heard guys praise these tools for time saving & just effortless work compared to working with a flame all around just Bad Ass! Really Great Upload this channel has really taught me so much in the last 2 year's invaluable information & I appreciate every bit! :)
Just added the m12 to my arsenal today. What a sweet deal the tool counter had, got the 11/4” head thrown in and the 1/2”-3/4-and1” Milwaukee auto cutters they on the house!
The m12 jaw change is a better design. The m18 pin over time gets stuck and you have to constantly lube the pin. You don't have that issue with the m12.
@@zueszues3178 it's no difference in presses. Basically if you do residential work get the m12 as it can press 1/2" up to 1 1/4" and 1/2" to 3/4" on megapress. The m12 is much smaller and lighter and easier to use. If you commerical work or you need to press bigger than 1 1/4" get the m18.
those press fittings are becoming more common. with the press units becoming more compact I hope that will make them even more main stream which will in turn make the fittings and tools cheaper and easier to find and for us home gamers to get.
This and the m12 pipe cutter makes a nice combination. I have the copper tubing cutter, but as a homeowner, I'm not sure I can justify the press tool. Perhaps the next big job will help persuade me!
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You think I should get this if I’m just doing basic swaps on residential water heaters ? I figured it would reduce my install time and the no flame is great for when I’m in big apartment buildings with sprinklers and whatnot,I’d get the the m12 for just 1/2 and 3/4 work
I bought the 12 volt one a few years back, I smile every time I use it, not sure how much the jaws are, but might be nice if Milwaukee offered it with just 1/2 and 3/4 jaws, I have never used the 1 inch jaw, I just stashed it at home to save a few pounds when I drag it throug a crawl space, and that is where this tool shines
Good thing he has the press because he doesn’t know how to solder. Bottom to top. Heat rises. Soldering the bottom joint can suck the top one. That being said the press too is awesome. Very informative video. Sorry for the plumber ridicule.
Yup. No credibility here. Soldering skill below average, joints look terrible after wiping with the big glove (the idea is to see virtually no solder when you are done JOURNEYMAN, oh and always solder AFTER threading in your adapters to increase the chances of a leak :)
I baught the m18 cause id rather have the ability to do everything over the compact size of the m12. We will see how long that idea lasts in the field but
De Walter The tool itself tells you when you need a service check. It is somewhere around 30,000 to 40,000 crimps I believe. The tools are getting a lot better.
I know this is only an opinion and I'm not a plumber but giving the fact that this type of connection used to be done by the first method he used ie soldering then can someone explain how a crimp is going to be as reliable as a weld
We can use in pipingrefregerator that tbe size of pipe 1/4 and filter drier for capilliary tube 1/8 hope so have the tools amazing no need to solder. 9
John, I'm just rethinking my comment. You're likely in the US which means more than likely you're just running hot and cold water services. My comment would mostly apply to the type of heating systems we install in Europe. Far too often I come across work where the client has started and I need to sort the mess out.
Yeah, I'm from the US, and just talking about hot and cold water. Although I do have a steam system, but the furnace was replaced last year, after 25 years of no problem. But I would even mess with that, those pipes are run a certain way that, you would know, have to be replaced the same way, with the same layout and pipe diameter. Or else it won't work correctly. So that, I would leave up to a pro.
Streeters Garage Yes, but at this time I believe you would need a different set of jaws..... Unless you used a type of fitting meant for these jaws.... I learned so much from Steve about this it was overwhelming.
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I don't think you can use this on pex. With PEX, don't you have to expand the end, put in the fitting, then the end will go back to normal after a couple seconds.
Vance Hamilton It started in 1999 in the US when Ridgid bought the rights so it and brought it in. Forgive me if I slaughter some of this, but Viega makes a ton of joints and is constantly increasing the sizes. They will be coming out with a Mega-Pess fitting at 4" this summer for schedule 40 black pipe. This is the direction it is going as the joints are now cheap enough for it to make sense.
WorkshopAddict This is the best thing I've seen for quick repairs and whatnot. Unfortunately the price has it at a trade tool rather than a handyman / homeowner tool. I'll be keeping an eye on this though. As the resident frozen pipe repair guy with family and friends, this tool makes a lot of sense.
Vance Hamilton It has a commercial tool price, that is for sure. Once you use it, it makes sense as these guys can pay for the cost of the tool in once job with the time savings. The smaller independent guys can take on larger jobs as they don't have a fire watch. Makes sense. But for the handyman, it's an expensive tool.....
Fact is this is for dummies that 1 can not solder 2 wont do the work fire watch etc., clearing flux 3 aren’t plumbers So they can sell fittings that are 8x’s as much.
Wouldn’t sound bad if you were managing your money right. That’s not real money. You need to say that to yourself if you plan on being a man with kids and a family.
Pex actually has some funky chemicals that leach from it, I used a bit of pex in my own home system but pex systems have their own drawbacks. It's always tradeoffs in the world we live in
Almost 8 minutes of talk and a guy using a electrical plier like called force logic,but: HOW DOES IT WORK ? WHAT IT IS GOING ON WITH THE METAL WHEN IT IS COMPRESS? HOW ABOUT TURBULENCE INSIDE PIPE ETC,ETC....
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I finally saved the money and bought this expensive bastard. The time it saves is unbelievable.
Did u get the 12volt
Does it have enough power to press
@@zueszues3178 I have thr m12
As someone who doesn’t own a home but helps my parents occasionally with these, I imagine these would allow us to do proper work and not just rely on those cheap plastic tubings anymore. Very impressive!
Glad to see them side by side. I needed that
We appreciate #WorkshopAddict coming out with all these great videos. That looks like a great kit.
Very Cool! Really Amazing tools Both M18 & M12. Definitely Game changing tools I've heard guys praise these tools for time saving & just effortless work compared to working with a flame all around just Bad Ass!
Really Great Upload this channel has really taught me so much in the last 2 year's invaluable information & I appreciate every bit! :)
Just added the m12 to my arsenal today. What a sweet deal the tool counter had, got the 11/4” head thrown in and the 1/2”-3/4-and1” Milwaukee auto cutters they on the house!
What supply house
Brilliant bit of Kit 👍🇬🇧
When I was in apprenticeship 25 years ago , this was not available. I'm glad it is now
It was available… in Europe.
@@VillainArch22No one in America cares about Europe.
You don't have to worry about water in the pipe.you have to break the diverter down so you won't melt the cartridge.great tool
I really like the M12, and M18 FORCE LOGIC Press tool kit. And I bet it's Brian favorite as well. #WorkshopAddict
The m12 jaw change is a better design. The m18 pin over time gets stuck and you have to constantly lube the pin. You don't have that issue with the m12.
Does the m12 have enough power to press did u notice a difference between the m12 and the m18
@@zueszues3178 it's no difference in presses. Basically if you do residential work get the m12 as it can press 1/2" up to 1 1/4" and 1/2" to 3/4" on megapress. The m12 is much smaller and lighter and easier to use. If you commerical work or you need to press bigger than 1 1/4" get the m18.
@@zueszues3178 it's not necessarily that one is better than the other, but they compliment each other.
What kind of fittings does the m12 press
@@zueszues3178 propress fittings.
Time saver and removes the worry of leaks. It pays for itself. Doesn’t matter if pipe has water.
Never really heard of these crimping tools until a few years ago. Those crimps look good though #workshopaddict
those press fittings are becoming more common. with the press units becoming more compact I hope that will make them even more main stream which will in turn make the fittings and tools cheaper and easier to find and for us home gamers to get.
Sam Sullivan between PEX and press fit copper, I doubt anything else will take over the market anytime soon
Bought the m12 press tool few weeks ago best invest and plus got a free bandsaw
Thats a great tool no fire to worry about. Just a great water or gas sealed fit , thepros bring it to life. Love it.
Impressive tool. I would love to play with one.
This and the m12 pipe cutter makes a nice combination. I have the copper tubing cutter, but as a homeowner, I'm not sure I can justify the press tool. Perhaps the next big job will help persuade me!
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Mark your joints folks.. dont want them pulling out during press
Great video.
I like how much quicker it would be at a job. not to mention how light it is.
#workshopaddict
Do you think for a guy doing service the M12 would be perfect or should we just get that M18 might as well appreciate your answer thank you
Can that same m12 do viega pure flow for pex ? Can it also do press for Gas on iron pipe? Can it do copper, pex and iron pipe with selected jaws?
Does this work with pro press refrigerant fittings?
I’m a residential HVAC Technician and I just bought one anyway for boilers, water heaters and my company has refrigeration jaws we can use
You think I should get this if I’m just doing basic swaps on residential water heaters ? I figured it would reduce my install time and the no flame is great for when I’m in big apartment buildings with sprinklers and whatnot,I’d get the the m12 for just 1/2 and 3/4 work
These press tools work. If you can charge enough to pay for the tool, it should work well for you!
I bought the 12 volt one a few years back, I smile every time I use it, not sure how much the jaws are, but might be nice if Milwaukee offered it with just 1/2 and 3/4 jaws, I have never used the 1 inch jaw, I just stashed it at home to save a few pounds when I drag it throug a crawl space, and that is where this tool shines
Will these jaws work for the pex rings also?
Good thing he has the press because he doesn’t know how to solder. Bottom to top. Heat rises. Soldering the bottom joint can suck the top one. That being said the press too is awesome. Very informative video. Sorry for the plumber ridicule.
Yup. No credibility here. Soldering skill below average, joints look terrible after wiping with the big glove (the idea is to see virtually no solder when you are done JOURNEYMAN, oh and always solder AFTER threading in your adapters to increase the chances of a leak :)
Question, can you solder on top of the connector?
Does this the m12 cut copper pipe also?
The tools is suitable for inox steel?
Same gas for gas & copper? If so I'll pick 1 up tomorrow
What fittings only work for this m12 only viega fittings?
Can the m12 work for mega press for gas pipe?
Does that 12 volt have enough power to press , for $2000 the 18 volt is around 500$
Will this work with close quarter ring kits?
I baught the m18 cause id rather have the ability to do everything over the compact size of the m12. We will see how long that idea lasts in the field but
offers milwaukee service a check up of pressure power? you have to do that every 2 years if you use suchlike tools here in germany for commercial use.
De Walter The tool itself tells you when you need a service check. It is somewhere around 30,000 to 40,000 crimps I believe. The tools are getting a lot better.
please do a test on the cable crimping system too
DeviloftheHelll what cable crimping system?
What kind of gloves was Steve using when soldering and where can I get them?
I will ask and get back with you.
Cotton jersey gloves work well, and you can get them at Walmart or really any store.
Good cue point 00:00:47
I know this is only an opinion and I'm not a plumber but giving the fact that this type of connection used to be done by the first method he used ie soldering then can someone explain how a crimp is going to be as reliable as a weld
How do you know when it needs to be calibrated
There is a light to tell you.
We can use in pipingrefregerator that tbe size of pipe 1/4 and filter drier for capilliary tube 1/8 hope so have the tools amazing no need to solder. 9
Could you use M18 ACR JAWS with the M12. Thanks
No goofy
I'll take the Milwaukee over the ridgid any day of the week, gotta get the m18 full size though.
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Where can I find the plastic copper pipe hangers used in this video shown at 3.51 minute mark?
An hardware store/ plumbing store/ big box stores will sell them. There called "talon clips" . That is for 1/2" pipe but you can get them up to 3/4"
Thanks for the information PrimeMechCo.
If someone is repiping a house, this can save them a lot of money. Don't have to call out a plumber. Which will be expensive.
john M And when they are done, the tool would have a good resale value to guys who do this for a living.
You'll likely still need a plumber.
Geoff, why would you still need a plumber?
John, I'm just rethinking my comment. You're likely in the US which means more than likely you're just running hot and cold water services. My comment would mostly apply to the type of heating systems we install in Europe. Far too often I come across work where the client has started and I need to sort the mess out.
Yeah, I'm from the US, and just talking about hot and cold water.
Although I do have a steam system, but the furnace was replaced last year, after 25 years of no problem.
But I would even mess with that, those pipes are run a certain way that, you would know, have to be replaced the same way, with the same layout and pipe diameter. Or else it won't work correctly.
So that, I would leave up to a pro.
Why won’t the light go off after I press
No Link for the tool?
can this do pex type fittings as well?
Streeters Garage Yes, but at this time I believe you would need a different set of jaws..... Unless you used a type of fitting meant for these jaws.... I learned so much from Steve about this it was overwhelming.
WorkshopAddict
Thanks for the response. Very cool offering from Milwaukee.
You always have the best cars in the shop. Love seeing the Monte SS!
Streeters Garage Thanks bud. The cars are a blast.... But we blew up the Chevelle Big Block last week. A broken rocker made a mess of everything. I guess this is our chance to build bigger. The Monte SS is a survivor.. lol... it survived sitting in a shop for almost 30 years. Has 7,000 miles on it. Been replacing some vacuum lines and cleaning up the carb.
I don't think you can use this on pex.
With PEX, don't you have to expand the end, put in the fitting, then the end will go back to normal after a couple seconds.
There are crimp connections for pex. You don't have to trust me, Milwaukee lists them www.milwaukeetool.com/press-tool-system
Is this the direction the industry is moving in? This is the first I've heard of crimp type plumbing install.
Vance Hamilton Toolstation sold crimp fittings about 5 years ago but discontinued them, obviously didn't catch on here in the UK.
Vance Hamilton It started in 1999 in the US when Ridgid bought the rights so it and brought it in. Forgive me if I slaughter some of this, but Viega makes a ton of joints and is constantly increasing the sizes. They will be coming out with a Mega-Pess fitting at 4" this summer for schedule 40 black pipe. This is the direction it is going as the joints are now cheap enough for it to make sense.
WorkshopAddict This is the best thing I've seen for quick repairs and whatnot. Unfortunately the price has it at a trade tool rather than a handyman / homeowner tool. I'll be keeping an eye on this though. As the resident frozen pipe repair guy with family and friends, this tool makes a lot of sense.
Vance Hamilton It has a commercial tool price, that is for sure. Once you use it, it makes sense as these guys can pay for the cost of the tool in once job with the time savings. The smaller independent guys can take on larger jobs as they don't have a fire watch. Makes sense. But for the handyman, it's an expensive tool.....
hyperliterider861, why do you say that it can't be used in the whole house?
This tool does not like cold and jaws rust like hell right away
Fact is this is for dummies that
1 can not solder
2 wont do the work fire watch etc., clearing flux
3 aren’t plumbers
So they can sell fittings that are 8x’s as much.
Wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't $2000!
Wouldn’t sound bad if you were managing your money right. That’s not real money. You need to say that to yourself if you plan on being a man with kids and a family.
M 12 can’t do seed 40 black iron gas
but the copper fitting much more expensive .contractor wont be using it
That's what you think....🙄 Nobody welds anymore
nice tools m 12 and stronger
Anyone in Ireland using this sort of tool. I presently use similar but on Multi layer pipe and would love to be equipped to do the same with copper.
why not just use PEX? just as stable, cheaper cost for tubing and the crimp tool is less than $40, instead of $1,500+ for this setup.
MrIggysinatra because copper. Obviously.
What about those jobs where the copper is already installed and you have to fix it? You can't always choose your customer's messes.
Pex actually has some funky chemicals that leach from it, I used a bit of pex in my own home system but pex systems have their own drawbacks. It's always tradeoffs in the world we live in
Only a hack uses pex. Too restrictive on flow. I have no respect for plumbers who use pex.
Where is Milwaukee S acr air conditioning jaws/. Come on Milwaukee help.....
It seems like it would leak with useing a press
You lost me at the wipe
Almost 8 minutes of talk and a guy using a electrical plier like called force logic,but: HOW DOES IT WORK ?
WHAT IT IS GOING ON WITH THE METAL WHEN IT IS COMPRESS? HOW ABOUT TURBULENCE INSIDE PIPE ETC,ETC....
Vicente Villacorta works the same as any other press tool