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Vehicle Voltron: Part 1 - Classic Cartoon Review 1/2
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- Опубликовано: 20 июл 2014
- RetroBlasting looks back at the underdog Voltron - Vehicle Voltron in this classic cartoon review!
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Peter Cullen at 4:15, no mistaking that legendary voice!
I remember the Voltron Power Hour, on WTXX, which had the Lion Force and the Vehicle Force episodes back to back. In 1985, even though I was 16 years old, this was all kinds of awesome. Yes, the episodes were simpler in Lion Force, and the plot darker, more ponderous and overarching in the Vehicle Force, but the difference between them only made both good in my opinion.
Combine that with an hour of Robotech on WSBK from 4 to 5pm, and I was all kinds of happy.
Robotech🥰
4:15 Peter Cullen sounds like he's just playing as optimus prime again
Voltron was so cool, Optimus Prime provided its narration. 8D
As to why there is only one Vehicle Voltron, and no others were built, was partially addressed in the show. During the 21st episode, 'Meanwhile Back at Galaxy Garrison,' they mention that the doctor that built Vehicle Voltron made many undocumented adjustments and which they had no been to replicate. They show another prototype Voltron which fails during testing. While this is a fairly weak explanation, the fact we got any explanation at all is impressive.
Nice review btw. Great work.
there was a little one you could buy and assemble as well as the action figure one you could not take apart.
I did get to watch them both back to back in New York City . Voltron lion played at 4pm and vehicle Voltron at 430pm. I loved them both
I remember feeling a little confused when I saw the vehicle Voltron on t.v. for the first time. If I recall correctly (and it's been at least 30 years now), the Lion Force Voltron was on the episode of the previous day ( I remember the Lion Force having some sort of epilogue laying on the grass on a hill or something). I don't remember not liking the vehicle Voltron, just sort of feeling "well..okay" about it. My guess is, that the folks making the show already knew that kids associated Peter Cullen with vehicles because of The Transformers, and thought he'd be a good voice actor for Hawkins so children could be okay with the transition.
As for the angle of the well armed exploration fleet, the starship Enterprise was first and foremost an exploration vessel that at times was seen as the invader,and only opened fire when they had to.So, I see a parallel between the Galaxy Alliance and the Federation.
+Robert Finnerty In the original Dairugger XV show they were actually part of a planetary alliance military combat fleet charting the whole galaxy, not just explorers.
I remember when I was a kid seeing Lion Voltron form it’s sword thinking that was the coolest thing I ever seen. Even today at 48 years old when I see it I put my fist together🤩
14:00,so what do you think of the bumpers in the Japanese ver. of Dairugger? That sweet animation of the sword shining,revealing Dairugger as its user just KICKS ASS!
I *liked* vehicle Voltron.
Supertroy1974 I LUVED it!
Me too. I would actually like to see a modern reboot of it. They could improve on the perceived shortcomings of the original. I think it has great potential.
Vehicle Voltron has better story telling and better action sequences. Plus vehicle Voltron is bigger and more powerful with lots of better weapons.
Absolutely far better than Lion Voltron. Vehicle Voltron was the best!
@@robertwitheyjr8789 Thank you! I always say the same things as you and it's true, far better.
Goes to show its all depending on culture and time slotting. In Mexico there is only one Voltron: the vehicle one.
We know of golion, as thats what we got in stores, but here, vehicle Voltron aired first, and the switch to magical princess bullshit made it fail.
I just found your channel and I LOVE IT! As a child of the 70's and 80's I love everything your doing here! :) Keep up the great work!
I only learned about Vehicle Voltron from a Robot Chicken skit.
Another awesome video, guys! Can't wait for part 2!
I can answer two of your questions. They are 'blink and you miss them' answers that are found in the dialogue.
The 5 minute energy matter was addressed in an episode where the Drules attack Earth, and they find Voltron's energy source is damaged and needs to be modified. So Voltron has to sit out the Earth invasion while another fleet drives the Drules off.
Second, they mention they tried to make more Voltrons at one time using the creator's original plans. But there were secret adaptations only the creator knew, and the knowledge of those he took with him to his grave. So Vehicle Voltron comes off more like the SDF-1 from Robotech. They know enough to operate it, but not how it completely works.
I have just watched six of your videos and even though you are ripping apart my childhood, you have just earned a new subscriber. Love your vids.
Always thought vehicle Voltron was the best planet exploration team around. Very brilliant. We need this type of planet exploration in real life.
Kinda imperialist, tbh.
Yes! Every new video from you guys makes me excited like a little kid in a toy store ;D
I just found RetroBlasting a couple days ago.... LOVE ALL THE VIDEOS! Keep them coming!
+Justin Welches thanks Justin. Will do!
I actually remember enjoying both Voltrons equally as a kid and also remember being very confused and disappointed when neither aired any longer. Let's get that live action film moving!!
Anyone else think the military uniforms in Vehicle Voltron bear a striking resemblance to those worn by the Earth Federation officers in the Universal Century-era Mobile Suit Gundam series?
Greatsaiyakirby Indeed.
Good point
EXACTLY!!!!!!
Good job. I think I was the only person at my school that liked both versions. I remember everybody at my school calling this version "Car Voltron"
Great production quality and writing. Nice work!
Awesome!! Very detailed great job! Waiting for part 2.
O.O OMG! Where has this channel been all my life?! I can't hit the subscribe button fast enough!
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I have just about completed binge-watching your channel. It is fantastic and unique. I remember seeing lots of this stuff when I was a kid too, and it's nice to hear someone as analytical as you both are talking through things I had glossed over while sitting in front of the Television decades ago.
I actually have a theory about the exploration aspect of Dairugger and it’s weapons: it was made so powerful as a means of defense against potentially stronger alien forces. Think of it like a preemptive strike.
I can remember when I first saw the combined series trailer came out that showed footage of both Voltron. I was a bit confused as I watched Lion Force, wondering what Vehicle Force (we always called it Conehead) was all about before the Lion Force finished and the Vehicle series started, and I said, ”OK, now the other other one.” I too remember seeing Volton II in stores and wondered why there was no series.
I have always liked the vehicle Voltron more because it was more akin to Robotech.
Robotech was the best
Picked up one of these in the box for $25 locally. The box was mush, but the foam and the Voltron were perfect. A neat find. Thanks for the tips!
Vehicle Voltron/Dairugger XV needs more love. Imoho. Think of a war of Hogwarts vs. Westeros in outer space. The sole premise is badass.
Excellent video!
I was always on Team Vehicle Voltron,even back in the day...I vouched for him in arguments on the schoolyard,and even today in the office.
And a big giant LOL @ the feet looking like Wagoneers!
Looking forward to Part 2!
Yep! I remember 3, and to this day, I’m still waiting for my 6 armed Voltron tv show!!!
Never saw this series before but remember seeing the bootleg versions of the toy alot.
Love all your Voltron videos!
***** well said and very detailed too. And I still like this Voltron but the details you gave are really eye opening.
Don't take this the wrong way Michael but I literally want that shirt off your back! haha! Another outing for the Retroblast t-shirt!
If you ever do another run I'll definitely be putting my name down for one.
I watched this one too - the channel here played BOTH series. I had a Vehicle Voltron figure too - I think he was maybe 6 inches, made up of single color rubber/squishy plastic vehicles.
Awesome video i've always wanted to know more about Vehicle Voltron
also it's cool to hear you're nashville glad to see other collector from tennessee
oh do you think you may do a video about Voltron II someday?
Very informative and fun. Maybe Thundarr in the future? They still had it on TV in the mid 80's. I KNOW. I was there :)
Lighting up the late night, glad I was awake for it. Good stuff as always. Can't wait for the Robotech one. You guys have any plans on doing Yamato/Starblazers?
I lived near St. Louis as a child. Home of Voltron and Kopler. Strangely enough, I remember Voltron II appearing on late-night TV focus tests. So Robot Voltron did actually get some air time, probably in a limited run only in my area when no one was awake to see it.
Vehicle Voltron was the one I preferred, then and now. Having grown up in a world where clueless leaders behind the lines made decisions based on politics, rather than on what's right (or what would help win/end the war,) it seemed more realistic in tone.
The Lion series seemed, well, kinda childish.
I wouldn't get to see depth in an animated series like this again until I got into Robotech (novels, then Japanimation,) and years later with Gundam Wing.
I'm afraid the Lion series left me cold, and was, in retrospect, a forerunner of the dumbed down SFTV to come...
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Sounds like we're cut from the same cloth bubba. Nice to see I'm not alone.
Cavillier1970 You two ARE NOT ALONE!!!
It's a bit redundant to refer to a show that's cut exclusively to appeal to children as childish...
Sandra Dermark make that a third.
did I hear Optimus Prime's voice in there a few times lol lol
I thought the same, and it is because it is the same voice actor
U sure did Peter Cullen
Can't wait for part ll !
Thanks Mike and Melinda. For years I've wondered what this show was - but there's so much coverage of the GoLion Voltron I thought I must have got confused and this show wasn't Voltron after all. I'm in the UK - do you know if the vehicle Voltron was called something different in Europe? I'm pretty sure this is the show I used to watch but I think it was called something different over here...
I loved vehicle Voltron back in the day. It has all those vehicles. I was into Matchbox and Hot Wheels. I was also into military back then and loved the variety of land, sea and air. It scratched all the itches.
i remember there was a station at one point would switch back and fourth between the lion voltron and vehicle voltron. i tried watching the vehicle one but just couldn't get into it,it lacked the energy of the lion show,so when those episodes came on i just switched it off. i wonder what would have happened if this version came out as a cartoon first,how would this affected the impact or appeal of the lion version?
I realize the issues in the outtakes are probably frustrating, but they're funny to watch. =) Hoping for the next one soon!!
I remember watching this series as a kid. I loved the Go Lion series and high hopes for this one. The 1st time I saw the flying cars in space I thought, "ok, this version of Voltron really sucks...what else is on?"
BTW I love the lunchbox collection in the background!
Such a great video. Thank you so much. I never this in such detail.
Voltron....Defender of the Universe!! I never knew there was a 3rd one. I remember how EPIC the movie was when both Voltrons teamed up.
Great video. I kind of wish I saw this as a kid, but for some reason I never did.
Great channel. Came across it by chance. Very informative on how shows were created / cancelled. If you like Voltron, look into Voltes V.
Michael thank God! finally I know someone who's a voltron fan like me. thank God!
Great look at Vechile Voltron Mike. First, I got to say at the end w/ the bloopers have you & Melinda thought of putting out a blooper reel? :) Just a thought. Now I was one of the fans who liked this Voltron more than the lion, and took alot of crap back then. I remember also the local stations switched right from lion to vehciles too, but this series made more sense to me. I think partly because I'm a Treker, (not a Trekie those guys are NUTS) The whole idea of space exploration & enviormental issues made sense, musch like Starfleet and the Federation. Also I think the writing was better here and was similar to the writing we had on DS9, especially when the war w/ the Dominion & Cardasia began. One thing I hope you guys will mention/get into is the crossover movie w/ both Voltrons combining the teams. A few years ago I read this essay online at a serious Voltron site about the teams seemed to side with Trek or Wars, w/ Lions representing the mysticism of Star Wars & the exploration, the more optomistic nature of Star Trek. Also I recall a theroy in this essay the writer had which made sense story wise; King Randor had created (Lion) Voltron to protect his planet, then after become allies with Galaxy Garrison the leaders their asked him to help construct a 2nd Voltron for space exploration. Now on the one hand I agree 15 members was a lot and the writing did lose something at times. Which is the universal problem with cartoons of the era. First I dont think anyone back then imagined folks like us would be discussing / let alone collecting & seriously discussing issues like these 20-30 yrs later, so things like cannon, rules, time lines wouldn't matter to them back then.Nowadays its another matter.
***** Hey guys I was re--watching this one and I'm wondering will you be looking at the special Fleet of Doom movie where the producers finally teamed both Voltrons together? In it the Drool Emipire in a final stand teams w/ Lotor and it takes the comined force of all 20 pilots to end the dual threat. And will you review the final Voltron? I know you wont consider a project until youre 1000% ready to go, and I know you got alot ahead on the to do list.
Dude! I grew up in Nashville too! Used to watch Voltron at Radnor Baptist after school care after school in Kindergarten and 1st grade; circa 1985-86.
interesting tidbit: Daltanious was promoted to TV stations as part of the voltron trilogy along with dairugger xv and beast king go lion. albegas somehow become one of the toys somehow
I think it was wrong for the production company to combine Golion and Dairugger as "one" Voltron cartoon. Each was made in different era. Golion was one of the last giant super robot animations like Mazinger or Combattler V (Shogun Warrior), and kids at the time wanted something more. Shows like Dairugger, Ideon, Goshogun and Dancouga were representatives of the transitions from giant robots to "real robots" genre like Gundam. These giant robot anime soon died out, at least until late 80's when Gunbuster came out. However, I long for the days when they come back. There are just too many hard-to-understand animation out there these days. Simple plot of giant robot fighting giant beast would be a good thing to watch after a long work day!
In NY VV was on weekday Morning [when kids were getting ready for school] while LV would be on weekday Afternoons [when kids would be home] so VV was handicapped right out of the gate. I think VV would have fared alot better if it debuted in the 90s or early 2000s aka when cartoons got smarter an deeper. It was ahead of it time in a sense. LV was the typical 80s cartoon. The Good guys and Bad guys are clearly defined, The villains start off as threats but gradually over time become more comedy relief than actual threats [Let's be honest Zarkon, Lotor and Haggar are more remembered for their quips to each other than anything they did to the Lion force] and the Good guys always won. The VV series had that bit of grey where the won and lost at the same time. Ex. The defeated the Robeast but the battle took such a toll on the Planet that it either became inhospitable or it blew up.
I'm glad you noticed the Samurai look to VV as well. That's what gravitated me more to VV than anything else. I grew up watching Kung-Fu and Samurai films with my Dad so that's why VV appealed to me more. The Barbarian look of LV didn't appeal to me probably because Conan, Thundarr, He-Man and Mightor had made the Barbarian concept a bit of been there done that.
I said two Voltrons also. I got the vehicle version for X-Mas as a kid, and was confused because I was watching the Lion version. Mine's missing the front chest jet, rotor blades on one copter, and a couple little wings broken on the head jet. But I still got it. I found out that my brother suggested to my parents, at the time, to get it because the leader was named Jeff. Which was my name. On my b-day, I got a black lion (no figures-always used GIJoes to pilot it), but never got the other lions to complete a full lion force. Voltron 2 didn't have a Voltron like look, so I wrote that off and forgot about it all together.
Man the earth forces got it easy! I never really thought about the politics of these shows when i was a kid. Great review team!
I always thought that the "Ancient Secret" meant the technology to assemble a giant robot not Voltron himself - "of how to assemble Voltron". Having no idea about the proposed third installment, I envisioned the "modern" Vehicle Voltron copied the "ancient" Lion Voltron's ability to combin. It implied that combination may be lost technology.
Someone somewhere said that vehicle Voltron and lion Voltron are like Star Trek and Star Wars. V1 is like Trek with more sci-fi elements and technology whereas V3 is like Star Wars with its more fantasy and spiritual elements. Not a bad comparison.
Great job as usual M&M. ;-)
I think I missed the second half of the Vehicle Voltron series because my brother wanted to watch something else. I had no idea the series were unrelated until I was 30 years old! A friend of mine had the toys of Vehicle Voltron and Lion Voltron, and we thought up some interesting theories why they were called I and III respectively. It had something to do with how George Lucas called "Star Wars" Episode IV if I remember right.
Great video, Mike and Melinda
Awesome video!
Ha! You grew up in Nashville? I'm a native. I remember watching Voltron on Channel 17. Ahh. The good old days..
I had the vehicle & lion .. I was Into the lion version intill I saw Voltron 1 at the store & how cool he was .. we had both cartoons in Boston depending on what day it was I guess depends which version they aired... i remember 1 not being cheap & couldn't afford 3 until I saw a bootleg version of him at a store & the only difference was he had a triangle on his belt instead of the star other than that it was the same exact mostly die cast metal toy... my best friend & next door neighbor had the so called real one & we compared them..
I loved, LOVED the vehicle Voltron! It taught me about job security at an early age!
Thank you for this. This was extremely interesting.
You're welcome.
I'm coming back to revisit this, after burning my way through DaiRugger on Bandai Spirits' channel. Never saw the Voltron version of the show, but I have IMMENSELY enjoyed AFDRXV. Definitely very un-Voltron, & completely agree that the strength of this show is the villains. I was wondering just how they had managed to make a Voltron out of this.
More to the point, though, I find the aloof attitudes and arrogance of the leadership of BOTH sides to be distressing and relevant to our own times. The DaiRugger crew & the Galveston "villains" are just middlemen. The way they end up relating to each other as soldiers is kinda wow.
I don't know if I would call this "grey," but certainly more "realistic" when I compare it to the world around me.
Overall, it sounds like the Voltron adaptation is more faithful to the source material than LionForce was; your assessments are pretty well spot-on.
And I think Teles is my new favorite cartoon character.
They do explain why Vehicle Voltron can only do its thing for 5 minutes; It has a human made nuclear battery that gets drained. The construct itself was based on the magical notion of lion voltron (storyline) and so could not be replicated.
Strange, I was way more into the more mature content that the Vehicle Voltron had. I was saddened when Gladiator searies didn't make it into being, but I am curious in all the original shows including it.
I remember watching the cartoon. Every time I watched it, I just could not get into it! Each show was just so dry of a good "story line". Not one episode flowed into the next. Plus it looked so lame watching shoe boxes fly around. I really only watched it when there was nothing else on. You are spot on with this video!!!!!!
It's been a long time since I watched this, so I could be wrong. If so please disregard.
I think it was mentioned in an episode of the U.S. version, vehicle Voltron was built by Earth Forces, based upon the lion Voltron. This explains why they never were around to help the Lion Force originally.
The vehicle Voltron was actually the second attempt and was still in the experimental phase, hence the limitations. The prototype had failed and was destroyed prior. Also, the vehicle Voltron was supposed to have autopilot backup in case of injury. The drawback to this, was that it was very limited and only designed for the loss of one pilot at a time. Again, for some reason, I recall an episode where the pilot of the plane was not able to fly and they used the autopilot function.
Or this could be my fan hand waving explanation.
How many points do we get for guessing IV Voltrons, counting Daltanious, the one that got away due to Americans tendency to shout loudly and slowly at foreigners on the phone "THE ONE WITH THE LION(s)!" Just think of him as the Pete Best of Voltron.
I always said that the Lion Voltron was more like Star Wars -- and the Vehicle Voltron was more like Star Trek.
I actually like the Vehicle Voltron better. Back in the 80, we used to have a local shop, run by some old Asian dude. He sold the original Japanese versions of Voltron, Transformers and many other toys. Some of the package art was really cool.
I “remember” 3, but that middle one when I was kid, was like this mythical piece of voltron lore that you HAD to be a hardcore to even know about😂😂😂
RetroBlasting - thumbs up and subscribed simply for being born in nashville (me too!)
Think you should do 1 on the thundercats cat mountains head broke off , got another, which was expensive in the 80s and I don't remember it lasting long either
Doe you anything on Saber Rider?
I was hoping they would have introduced the vehicle Voltron in the Netflix reboot.
I begged and pleaded for those lions, and my grandma, meaning well, got me the cars voltron instead. I was crushed but still managed to sound appreciative.
Lion Voltron was stupid compared to Vehicle Voltron.
I love Dairugger and watched it from one of your earlier show!
hey did you know that there was a connection between the two voltrons midge from lion force was the brother of midge of vehicle force, there was an episode I forgot from wich series that they were both sending letters to each other.
Do you think they might a Vehicle Voltron for the new Netflix series? Maybe as a man-made version of the traditional Lion Force version? It's not far-fetched, I think the recent comics had a serious backstory.
I find it Ironic that was you are saying is the problem, a story were it hard to get behind the invaders make it a difficult sell to American audience, where the Macross fans say that they changing of the base plot of that show for an American audience was bad. Macorss was about group fighting over how had the best "culture", something that should be rather alien to a multi cultural society such as United States.
Lastly, is it just me, or were the Canadians from Star Trek TNG appear to be based on the Drule Empire?
Robotech has recently been taking a massive bashing because of a number of legal issues, that appear to be far more from Tosnoko fault, Harmony Gold is being villinized for. There are a number of "macross" fans that act like a Anime Antifa, attacking Robotech, HG, and any fans of the show calling them everything including Hilter, for perfecting the alternation make to macross for an American audience. The story of Macross is basically as if The U.S. and England went to war over who is the most like The Roman Republic.
Ohh I do hope you mention the toy version doesnt come with a sword but a bootlegg version released actually in stores by TRU released it
I'm quite interested in seeing how you manage to sand the Voltron figure us without it falling apart
This is actually a better video then I thought it would be. I loved Vehicle Voltron much more then the Lion as I thought the latter was too repetitive, but the point outs to the former's are well deserved.
I remember salivating when I heard Dairugger XV was being put out on DVD, but I never got more then the first set as it bored me to tears. The music was so blah compered to the action-orientated score they had on the American version.
And I love what you said about how the Druel's could have been the who story in Dairugger with the virtual collage of plot lines going on with them.
Can't wait for part 2.
*****
Are you guys going to make a video about GI JOE cartoons? PLEASE DO! PLEASE DO!
Awesome! Thanks!
vehicle team voltron was on after school during the weekdays ! oh yeah in san deigo, new york, st louis and connecticut ! i enjoyed watching it ! AWESOME SHOW ! it wasn't on sundays for where i was.
" I'm trying to remember my lines.....Spock!" Lmfao
Is Gladiator voltron available? dvd? youtube, crunchyroll...somewhere?
You need to do a piece on the new Voltron Legendary Defender I actually enjoyed it, a bit concerned playmates has the toy licence but hopefully it won't be too bad. I don't know if you have checked it out yet.
The Drule remind me a lot of the Principality of Zeon from Mobile Suit Gundam. In fact, there are a lot of things about this show that you guys have mentioned that remind me of Mobile Suit Gundam, like the grey morality stuff, and all of the politics. It kind of makes me want to watch this show despite its flaws.
Awesome video. I always like the look of vehicle force but quickly lost interest in the story as a kid. I look forward to part two.
🤔 I wonder how the vehicle Voltron would stand against the Stunticons/Menasor or Constructicon/Devastator.
do you have reviews on Galaxy Rangers and Bravestar?
was the concept of Voltron taken directly from the Shogun Warriors line of toys from the 70's?