Real Espionage vs. Metal Gear Solid
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Hideo Kojima's video game series METAL GEAR SOLID is well known for popularizing tactical espionage action. Ignoring the more fantastical elements, how does its version of spying measure up against the real world?
In this brief video, I cover the entire MGS series, going through what each game did differently in terms of connections to real-life intelligence, with well cited definitions and examples pulled from official sources, e.g. encyclopedias from the CIA and NSA, and articles from the International Spy Museum.
Join me as we discuss espionage in MGS, from HUMINT, to SIGINT, Honey Traps, the 'Wilderness of Mirrors', and more!
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Provided here is a glossary of all the terms from this video:
Espionage - "The employment of secret agents in covert collection of information."
HUMINT - "Intelligence collected from human sources"
Asset / Source - "That from which the information or intelligence is received, either initially or at the various stages of transmission." "A clandestine source or method, usually...a person unofficially employed by an intelligence service, often as a source of information."
Direct Action - "Short-duration strikes and other small-scale offensive actions conducted as a special operation in hostile, denied, or politically sensitive environments and which employ specialized military capabilities to seize, destroy, capture, exploit, recover, or damage designated targets."
Paramilitary - “forces or groups distinct from the regular armed forces of any country, but resembling them in organization, equipment, training or mission.”
Covert Operation - "Hidden, secret or disguised so as not to reveal the real character or intent."
Clandestine Operation - "Covert activities undertaken contrary to the laws and desires of the government of the country, or the organization in which the activities take place."
SIGINT -"consists of:
Communications Intelligence (COMINT) - technical and intelligence information derived from intercept of foreign communications.
Electronic Intelligence (ELINT) - information collected from systems such as radars and other weapons systems.
Foreign Instrumentation Signals Intelligence (FISINT) - signals detected from weapons under testing and development."
OSINT - " drawn from publicly available material, including:
The Internet
Traditional mass media (e.g. television, radio, newspapers, magazines)
Specialized journals, conference proceedings, and think tank studies
Photos
Geospatial information (e.g. maps and commercial imagery products)"
MASINT - "scientific and technical intelligence information obtained by quantitative and qualitative analysis of data (metric, angle, spatial, wavelength, time dependence, modulation, plasma, and hydromagnetic) derived from specific technical sensors for the purpose of identifying any distinctive features associated with the source, emitter, or sender and to facilitate subsequent identification and/or measurement of the same."
Disinformation - "misinforming through the dissemination of information that is totally or partially false."
Honey Trap - "That attractive stranger smiling at you from across the bar: possible romance, or a honey trap ready to seduce secrets out of you? They may even have been sent by your own side, to test your loyalty. The KGB named their male seducers ravens and the females swallows. Honey-but not so sweet."
Mole - "An agent of one organization sent to penetrate a specific intelligence agency by gaining employment; a term popularized by John Le Carre"
IC - "The Intelligence Community...made up of 17 [organizations]"
Double Agent - "An agent...who is serving or employed by two or more principals who are opposed to each other."
The "Wilderness of Mirrors" - "[James Jesus] Angleton lived and thrived in what he called “the wilderness of mirrors,” his favorite phrase for... deception operations. "
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fas.org/irp/program/masint.htm
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spyscape.com/article/spy-glos...
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Whatever you're about to say, the box is the ultimate stealth tactic
If someone was hiding in a box, honestly I probably wouldn't even think to look under. Unless I activally think of this series.
.. and NANOs
Its certainly creative don't forget the hallow metal drum as well you can use that as well as the cardboard box
Plot twist use an explosive barrel or metal drum what ever you want to call it as a stealth tactic, im pretty sure you think twice in shooting it as a normal explosive berrel would explode so you would have a 50/50 chance either of blowing up or not blowing up im not a gambler so i wouldn't take the chance but thats just me fellas
@@raijin1378 and who is going to kick or touch one of those? You may break it or something,its cargo after alll.
The cardboard box that you have is ideal for fooling your enemies. It’s a very important tool for infiltration missions. I can’t begin to count the number of agents whose lives were saved by a cardboard box. Look I’m not exaggerating when I say the success of your mission hinges on how you use that cardboard box. But in the end, a cardboard box is only made of paper. Handle it with care or it won’t be of much use to you. Don’t think of it as just another box. Treat it with love... Don’t be rough. Okay?
I'll have you know a cardboard maybe made of paper but it helped take out a tank and found the answer to the universe.
Raiden has vouched for the usefulness of the coardboard box, you've heard it here folks.
You know i've lost a couple thanks to you
A man is only as solid as his cardboard box
-Big Box
after all it has 101 uses
V is arguably the most realistic in terms of actual battlefield enemy infiltration but it’s obviously exaggerated and I love it!
Exactly
I still play it
The sandbox is organically designed to allow the creation of emergent forms of gameplay, and also allow the enemies to adapt to the tactics used by players, the enemies adopt new weapons and gear, use vehicles and emplaced machine guns and mortars, helicopters, snipers, rocket launchers, grenades. I've been playing the same game for the last 3 or 4 years, extreme difficulty, enemies are real devils, quick and deadly, good in using cover and staying out of sight, they are hunters.
The one thing that bothered me about MGS5 that’s minor is the fact that snake does keep his weapon at the ready. Like I know he uses both of his hands a lot but he could always let his weapon hang before he acts but when he’s moving around and sneaking, he should have it ready to use. Not aiming down the sight but just at the ready.
@@marine12324 You mean "he doesn't keep the weapon in his hands"?
You're right, it also bothers me, it was a staple of the franchise. But we have to understand that now the player character (Venom Snake) can do a lot of things, and would be weird to suddenly disappear the gun into the invisible pocket every time he interact with the environment. Game development is all about compromises and limitations, many of the things, plots and mechanics brainstormed at the beginning were thrown away, even for a Kojima game.
Shooting is not the point of Metal Gear Solid, it's meant to be a hard and clunky mechanic because it is more of a last ditch resource rather than the preferred method of playing, and even so the shooting mechanic in GZ and TPP is great, not a COD level FPS but some of the best TPS I've ever played.
"Surprisingly its actual espionage elements are incredibly faithful to the practices and even the overall spirit of spying in the real world"
*turns on stealth camo*
www.army-technology.com/features/military-camouflage-technology-us-russia/
@@FuturasoundProductions The fact that the guy you have replied to plays these games and didn't know about the real life 'light bending' tech is embarrassing. I suppose you really have to have a thirst for knowledge to even care to research. Damn I'd hate to be stupid.
@@FuturasoundProductions Dumbest article I have ever seen. It literally only has two sentences.
@@deniz1603 brother did you scroll down at all
@@cathaloconnor6577 Lol you must be incredibly smart and have such a high IQ huh. You and I both know there is nothing like stealth camo in the real world that actually looks how it does in MGS
My girlfriend is always saying "what was that noise?......huh?" Whenever I walk around the house.
Damn🥰
You treat that woman right, y'hear?
"what was that??"
I would never treat anyone badly who willingly tolerates me talking about MGS at least 3 times a week, likes the Fox logo tattooed on my forearm and she encourages me getting some type of tattoo with The Boss.
Looks like you might have found a real one, congrats ✌️
I don’t think it has to be all that realistic. It just has to be stylishly cool and just LOOKS like it works to fit in the series.
Most definitely! MGS may capture the essence of espionage, but not at the expense of fun
Most people don't want something realistic, just believable
Make your game whatever as long as it's good and accomplished what you set out to do
duh
It's like FC2, one dude can't just kill an entire garrison of soldiers with huge ass pieces of lead in bith his hands and his shin with 2 rusty weapons, it's supposed to be convincing but not technically realistic.
Engravings give you no tactical advantage
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They actually do. Your enemy might underestimate you, thinking you're just some rookie with a fancy gun, giving you a slight edge in battle
Ocalot isnt KGB if you were not aware so yes and no he was CIA wasnt connected to snakes affiliation per say but same side
@Aizette well, not in case of Ocelot, because at that time he really was a rookie with a fancy gun
Here in Mexico the cartels never learn that
Wilderness of mirrors. That is the plot of MGS in a nutshell. People complain about the story sometimes in these games, calling them convoluted. The reality is that just like real life espionage you have no way to truly know the truth. Wilderness of mirrors indeed.
@Eriko. Oy Best stories are written by life itself.
@Gioco Royeca MGS4 and 5 are convoluted af, the rest arent.
or it's all bullshit and it's convoluted because each game was made to be the last yet the asshole of kojima wouldn't let go because "my baby,im the rockstar" and had to figure things out as it go... wich even that is too much considering how tomokazu Fukushima was THE man behind a lot of the plot and how lackluster the writing became after he left
@T. O. I dont get the point of your comment. What are you getting at with that.
It's convoluted, because Kojima has no real understanding how an actual, polished presentation works. He realizes very good ideas by burying them under thick layers of nonsense, bad inhuman dialogue and whatever he thinks is cool (and they are pretty cool ngl). I don't need to replay a game 3 times in order to "get it", when all the major info can be summarized in few sentences. It's not artsy, nor smart, just wasting your time and demanding obsene amount of attention that is generally not deserved. The people that defend MGS5's plot are pretty much repeating what the trailers said, what previous games already established and the plot twist, thinking that's some big brain moves and they "got it". When in fact, the problem wasn't the story, but that a pretty awesome story takes the form of a boring, disjointed mess. Worse in Death Stranding, where if it was directed by an actual professional, it would have been one of the best cinematic stories of modern time. Instead it ended up being some uncanny melodrama for weirdos, because Kojima thinks 3 act is for idiots.
Boss get down! The enemy sniper... stay low and crawl along the ground, that should enable you to sneak past enemies.
To be honest, that was probably the worst thing about the game. They should have offered an option to shut Ocelot up.
Mission 148: Boss get down! The enemy sniper....
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One of the things that sets MGS apart from other stealth/espionage games is Kojima is unafraid to make his games political. A lot of the mechanics and plots of the story are unconcealed critiques of western power structures and violence. Although, it doesn't ~fully~ come across to every player because despite being critical of these things it also makes the player partake in them by playing as Big Boss or Solid Snake. Great series, thanks!
well said. Love the politics!.
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You undoubtedly make the most interesting Metal Gear/Kojima content on this platform. You make actual thought-provoking discussion, combined with a vast and detailed knowledge of the nuances of series and its influences. I appreciate your work and I thank you as a fellow MGS devout.
7:57 I'd like to point out that the pill in Snake's tooth isn't a suicide pill. He has another pill (that he just takes as a regular pill) that he can use to fake his death by sending him into a "death-like state". The pill in his tooth is used to reverse the effect of the fake death pill. Although, if the revival pill isn't used soon after using the fake death pill, Snake actually dies. So the _fake death_ pill is kind of a suicide pill.
On an unrelated note, the word pill doesn't look real anymore.
Ever since I learned that Roald Dahl, the guy who wrote Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, was also a WWII spy for the RAF, all of my preconceptions about spies just went right out the window (though he also wrote a series of "erotic adventure" novels which do a lot to square him back with my more classical James Bond expectations haha)
Metal gear solid is a legendary franchisee for a reason. It's portrayal of various information gathering techniques is great, and even if it's not accurate in a lot of ways, it doesn't necessarily need to be, because the plot, characters, and gameplay make up for it
I really enjoy your reading of MGSV, I’ve always saw it as more than the sum of its parts.
Mgs2 is like that too more than the sum of it's part
On the nose. I LOVE this comment!
Everyone knows Dick Marcinko fought a guy with lightning bolt powers and a giant mech in the 70s.
You actually got footage of the "Secret Wars in Laos" during the Vietnam War. I saw General Vang Pao and my Hmong people. You definitely did your homework. Great vid.
The Mgs 4 flash-back noise during the reminder of previous Mgs games is à réal Nice touch
You're pretty good.
You've earned my subscribe
"What took you so long?"
Am I too late?
Kept you waiting huh ?
you're the only channel I know of that currently makes in-depth videos on the Metal Gear series, and with the series being most-likely over as we know it, I doubt other youtubers are clawing to make niche video essays on the Metal Gear franchise. Keep up the great work and please continue with the Metal Gear content!!
Metal Gear will nvr die my friend. Delta on the way
The amount of research in you videos are 1000 times more than the research i did for my dissertation, and i got a good mark.
Good job man
The more you know about metal gear the more you love it
Exactly! Everyone that hated MGSV seemingly wanted the information spoon fed to them like the other games did, and nothing wrong with that, but that is what made the game SO amazing...you the player had to find all the jigsaw pieces and put them together to make any sense of what was going on, and even then it wasn’t a clear picture, JUST like in real life!!
Both Snake and Sam Fisher are excellent fictional sigint ninja's. Especially in their missions which are all about establishing facts if a supposed threat is even real before escalation.
SIGINT Ninjas.... there's a band name for you
I respect that but splinter cell is second hand to mgs only because where is the replayability
@@crewnation1267 They're both just as replayable.
Add a light/shadow system and a noise level system to Ground Zeroes aaaand boom. Perfect.
Arguably the most realistic mission in the metal gear solid series yet it doesn’t include any metal gear
Big Boss' Pony tail is real to me
Imma try to grow one like that. Gonna be hard because it teeters on mullet territory.
I had absolutely NO clue about this channels existence. I feel like SS at Shadow Moses lol. I'm in love with this channel now. MGS is one of my 2 favorite IPs ever! Not just favorite games but favorite franchises, the other one being the Resident Evil franchise (NOT THE MOVIES😳). Anyway this channel is BOSS! 😏
You’re pretty good. Those are my 2 favorite franchises as well. 🤟🏻😎🐍
Seriously...your content is so well done and gives me so much joy. Thanks for all your service, Boss.
Are you ever gonna make an essay about how the series talks about the possibility of a war economy?
Like the U.S. economy?
@@ryankl1984 lmao yes to a degree
@KidRiver The Pissrael economy.
It's time to relax. Thank you.
"Video complete and how? They're gonna tell stories about this one".
“That’s why you’re the best boss, the one and only”! 🐍
The music from the first mgs will forever be burned into my head
Now you have to do a real espionage vs Splinter Cell
Great video, every time I play mgs I'm always compelled afterwards to look up parts of the game (weapons, organizations, world events) to see if they are fiction and even some of the more outlandish ones are often real. The depth of the games blows me away even after playing the series for years.
Before watching, I wonder if OSP is ever an actual thing
It probably has been, I’m sure somebody has had to infiltrate something without all the necessary tools
It's not, MGS1 translator mentioned in one of interviews(on Polygon I think) he coined the term.
@@Cruxmajor I think it was actually with Hardcore Gaming 101, at least that's where I read it web.archive.org/web/20120312032352/www.hardcoregaming101.net/metalgear/jeremyblaustein.htm
Cruxmajor in terms of the actual term OSP I’m certain you are correct but the act of procuring something out of necessity isn’t new and I think that’s what he meant, I may be wrong though.
It's unlikely for the US military to conduct operations in this manner. If an op requires deniability, adversary equipment would be provided.
A big problem with the legitimacy of these solo espionage games is all the equipment in your inventory, which in reality requires teams of extremely fit miltary personnel with massive backpacks to carry on flat terrain, not to mention moving quietly, crawling through grass, swimming, climbing metal railings etc.
The bacics of Espionage in Metal Gear Solid games is the same used in the game "Hide & Seek" most of us played during childhood.
Found your channel and I'm loving it. Lifelong Metal Gear fan here. Love all the detail and info you give about the games. Keep up the great work.
One of the regular themes you get from John le Carre's books is how resolution always winds up being compromised. The protagonists of his books don't really get to win or the victory is muddied by a world that's simply bigger than them. Even when George Smiley, one of his more consistent protagonists, beats Karla (his soviet counterpart) it's done in a manner he can't be happy with. Metal Gear loves to do that too. Snake Eater especially lands in a bittersweet manner and the repercussions of that shape the rest of the timeline.
Absolutely amazing and awesome video, bravo
This video is dope!!! I love learning any kind of information that enhances my enjoyment of a video game series while at the same time educating me on real world info.
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This is a fantastic deep dive into Espionage and MGS. Thank you so much for this!
Your content is so unique , I really havent seen anything like it on the subject mgs , this is probably the closest we get to what hideo kojima is thinking
I always thought that Metal Gear Solid V did open world stealth the best, and I’m really hoping more games incorporate it’s features.
If Ghost of Tsushima will ever get a sequel, it would benefit a lot from borrowing elements from MGSV.
i just found your channel while replaying MGS V and I love your content dude. Truly amazing. Thanks Boss!
Snake also says in Snake Eater that he hates Bond films because “that’s nothing like how real spies operate”
Boss get down! thats an enemy gunship... one burst from that machine gun could tear a man in half. stay low and crawl along the ground. that should enable you to sneak past enemies
Don’t ask me how I know this, but I heard that a special ops group actually tried a mock espionage/infiltration operation on their own base. The guards were unaware about the mock training op and they were going about their day while special forces operators were trying to infiltrate the base. Turns out that the operators were able to infiltrate-and then escape the base without getting spotted by the guards. Don’t know if it is true and I don’t remember from which forum I originally picked this up.
you are likely talking about Red Cell, Dick Marcinko's unit that tested Naval readiness for terrorism
Any thoughts on the war economy in mgs4? Great video as always 👌
God that would make an awesome video
would love that!
Very complex
Very thorough analysis. Keep up the great work!
Dude this is great
Interesting video, as always.
Great video man, you should make a video on the supernatural abilities of some characters in the saga
I mean did anyone ever think they WERE realistic? The whole series is utterly ridiculous--in a good way, to be clear, but it's the OPPOSITE of something you'd get a feeling of versimilitude from.
Considering espionage was mostly secretly leaving letters in old walls I'd say the cardboard box is quite close to that delivery man spirit.
Damnnnn, your content is great and you only have 8k subs?
Gonna subs now
Great video! Love your channel!
This video has a very appropriate thumbnail
Wonder what youll make of chico's interrogation tape, you can hear miller in the back too
Its not miller lol. That's one of Skull Face's men
When someone said "give her shot already"?, yap that's miller I saw it in youtube that miller's voice actor confirm that voice line was his
This was one of the most interesting videos I’ve watched in a while, thanks for talking about this
As a person who devotes every nanosecond of his spare time into researching military history, technology and doctrine while also being a big MGS fan, a video on this topic was really needed for me.
I was always fascinated by the pseudo-realism MGS had.It's realistic, and it's bullshit fiction at the same time.The guns (at least the types, brands, etc and descriptions)? Realistic.Nanomachines? Bullshit.But it works very well, mixing these two aspects together.They definitely put a lot of time into the military side of the games, like the clearing in MGS2 and countless others, plus all the "training" they got from Motosada Mori who is ex-SWAT.MGS3 is the epitomy of the military realism side of the games, even featuring some SERE stuff like survival skills.MGSV improved upon it.
I also loved the way the games tried teaching players actual skills, the best example being Liquid's disguised Master Miller advice calls in MGS1, but the trend runs through all the main games, mainly MGS1,2,3 and 4.
Despite this, the games are fun and lack anything even close to annoying realism.
Thx for reading my long ass stupid comment.
I see MGS, I like! Subscribed!
Goddamn this upload schedule is FAST. Good shit
Actually, I just finished a session of replaying MGS 1 and I'm pretty sure they mentioned NSA in some of the codecs.
I needed this...
This is the content I live for!
Well done you've earned a subscriber :D I look forward to your content
Why the frick frack has this channel not exploded yet. Amazing quality here
I really wish we would have gotten some taste of Van Eck Phreaking. That's some wild stuff right there.
Awesome vid man keep it up
The Wilderness of Mirrors seems to exist outside of war, really just life in general. It is scary in some sense.
Intro music is the same as my ring tone. I thought I was getting a call and couldn't find a way to answer it!
I learned way more than I expected!
One of the videos in the "Real life vs Metal Gear" playlist is hidden.
This may be my new fave channel
SO you're the one that the Boss keeps talking about...
Nicely done.
Video started like my ringtone lmao. xD
Everyone going on about how good the video is and im just like, "Lol, dude at 1:48 accidentally shot the helo"
Brilliant video
MASINT is an odd discipline. From what I read, HUMINT and COMINT are the eyes and ears while MASINT is every other sense.
Hey great video. Editing is great, but you got the definition of Clandestine and Covert mixed up
The cardboard box actually fooled state of the art DARPA detection technology MGS is way ahead of its time
On top of other tactics, real world spies conceal their breath's odor using BMINT tictacs.
Was skullface in the field during operation snake eater? Or did he sent his team in as support
I wonder if you're going to branch out into Deus Ex (1), and the Thief and Dishonored seires
We really need a movie like Metal Gear Solid. Something that features a lone operative sneaking into enemy territory while occasionally getting into fights with henchmen.
No, we need another metal gear or remake metal gear 2: solid snake i want see snake vs BB
why does MGS2 look so good in your videos? I remember it looking like a blurry mess on the PC version, and nothing like what you've shown
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Only true msg fans remember msg1 on ps1
Another video, right Boss?
Darlon Kept ya waiting huh?
Very nice video!!
This is SO GOOD!!!
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You forgot to bring portable ops to the table, but otherwise a neat essay.
13:56
Well there is no next time
0:04 this is real espionage
What about how confused i am who is snake and who is boss and who is what and what is going on in msg
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Not to mention solid, liquid, and solidus are clones of an badass soldier big boss