Natalia Grace #22 - (Histrionic) - Therapist Reacts
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- Опубликовано: 8 май 2024
- Dr. Kirk Honda reacts to the documentary about Natalia Grace. Includes clips from The Curious Case of Natalia Grace.
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Hey, demented German listeners 😊 ❤
As a demented German, I feel seen 🙂
😂😂
What about Canadians?
As swedes
Reading this on vacation in Berlin (from US). 😂
It's usually 'hey, DISTURBING listeners!', and those captions make me giggle every time 🤣🤣🤣
Are you one of the trolls they talk about? How much are you getting paid to be a moron?
i'm really sorry if my previous comment was rude. I misinterpreted what you wrote and was feeling emotional!!! :)
Or maybe not.... it seeems like that comment never sent. Hehehe :P
😂😂😂
lol Yep, that’s always what I see.
I think it’s pretty clear from this interview that Michael doesn’t see himself as Natalia’s father or even caretaker
I remember reading there was a catch-22 in the law so that because her age was changed in court it could not legally be changed again. Which means all of Natalia’s ID makes her out to be in her 30’s instead of her teens. Even though almost everyone now believes she was a child she still can’t have it changed back. This is twisted. She wasn’t able to take them to court for child neglect or abuse, just as a dependent with mobility issues. The court created this problem for her and they should be made to fix it without her spending money to do it.
He’s so flippant of the questions she is asking. Zero emotion below his responses
Mine said once "Hey zero listeners" 😂
buahahahaha perfect!
As a christian, I know you're going to hell
Michael looks like the Steve Buscemi GIF “How do you do, fellow kids?” He even has the backwards red cap. (No skateboard, but leaves on a motorcycle, right?)
It worked! We aren’t disturbed in this episode 😅 I am actually curious what his claims are about Christine’s abuse towards him. Is the concept of “coercive control” existent in the US? This is something I’ve heard of in the UK, which describes a potentially large number of spousal abuse situations. I am curious if there is any grounds for his lack of ability to intercede with Natalie. I think that he seems to clearly show a lot of guilt and thus supports his competence. A lot of my sympathy does go for Natalie as I think she is extremely resilient to be able to face her ex-Dad in this way. I would not be able to do any of that- those are tough and triggering questions to ask, and constantly hear trivial excuses or “I’m the real victim.” No, adult man, you are not the primary victim here.
I haven't watched the doc in a while, but one thing I recall is that he said Kristine always threatened to take his sons and turn them against him, and in the end, that is exactly what she did. So the fact that she followed through on that threat I think justifies his fear about it. When Kirk keeps asking why he didn't threaten to leave and take Natalia with him, my response is always, "because he had three sons he didn't want to lose and that trumped his concern for Natalia." I'm not justifying his behavior because I think he should have just gotten the police involved and he could have ended up with all four kids himself. I'm just looking at what he claims was his perspective.
I believe justice will come to Natalia. It may be awkward and it may take some time..... but crazier things have happened. I don't care about her family, I want to see Natalia with a decent amount of money from this, with support. Despite possible personality disorders (due to trauma) Natalia deserves a comfortable life from now on.... if i could be there i would only be her friend. She seems like a normal girl, just like me, that may have issues due to trauma. I did similar things to her in my moments of confusion. She deserves justice or a bunch of money.
First!! Been loving this series. Hope you’re doing well Dr.Kirk!!
Not first
@@Kirsten_is_cursed10 were you first?
Anyone looking for the rest of the commentary it’s already up on patreon. The audio version of the podcast, there it’s the end of “part 3”
I'm not super invested in this story, but even so, watching this one is so tough. My tummy is queasy. 😟
I’ve read a lot about histrionic and learned it’s what replaced the old timey catch-all of “hysterical” in medical texts. I always do a double take when someone brings it up
Its not
I took many psychology, philosophy, and sociology classes. I am not buying Michael's victim story. He has a lot of issues, but not a victim. More like a professional victim to make his life free of responsibilities. He enjoyed the lifestyle. I know plenty of 10 year old with empathy for others, so saying Michael sounding ten is still not right.
I would love to hear Christine's side. They are both kooks, but still always like to hear all sides.
I asked before, is Michael paid for this show? I think he did for money for his lifestyle which dwindled without Christine and with paying lawyers
Lastly, I can not believe Michael and Christine got off scott-free. Or maybe I can, the justice system has their own ways of evaluating guilt with evidence needed.
I agree that he didn’t fight Christine because he didn’t want to lose his life style.
You're amazing
The criminal charges wouldn't need to be overturned, it would just be different charges. He was tried and acquitted for abandoning a disabled dependent. Should her legal age be changed back, they can still be prosecuted for abandoning a child.
Can we not cut the adoptive father any slack in this scene? I think he was emotionally abusing Natalia while, simultaneously, making a case that he didn't mean to be abusive in the past. Horrendous. I think from Natalia's perspective, things look confusing as to who to blame because she was a child. The adoptive father's narrative is re-inforcing this confusion. It's implicitly putting the burden of being "fair" on to Natalia's shoulders. If Natalia is holding the adoptive farher responsible, she is being "unfair". Then, with "she abused me too" narrative, he is inviting Natalia to be a victim together. There is this implication that adoptive father can understand how the abuse felt like for Natalia. Isn't that cruel when he so obviously has no capacity for that? And, there is effort by the adoptive father in this conversation, but for his narrative, not for redemption. So, I think he knows what he is doing. So I do agree that what we are seeing here is how this person is engaging with anyone in his life, but I don't think anything about he is doing here is spontaneous. He is after something. It's possibly about framing the ex-wife, some kind of revenge, or perhaps leverage, or perhaps protection. Perhaps it's something silly. Perhaps he is manipulated himself. Either way, he has no problem being abusive this way towards a victim. Could you be a little unfair towards the adoptive father Dr. Honda, please? It makes me so mad that victims' need for being fair is another chip to manipulate them. This conversation makes me so angry.
I completely agree with everything you said. I think he’s trying to evade responsibility and possibly legal repercussions. He’s an abuser. There’s no other atonement to be had here.
I always thought it was Hey, discerning listeners lol, made sense in my head so I just never questioned it lol
2:37 I would rather have my tooth pulled than listen to Micheal dodging valid questions.
2:51 Tough, man. You came out saying all that crap during the last season, you can answer questions. But I am not a fan of abusers using legal speak, he shouldn't have shown up.
3:53 He is demonstrating that he does have the ability to protect himself and demand boundaries. I would hope that is apparent in any character demos.
Question: Did he get paid for the documentary? He maybe did for the money...he must owe tons of legal fees. Or does he just want the spotlight?
Hi Dr. Honda!! Can you react to Mr. Morale and the Big Steppers? Even if it’s just Mother I Sober, a song about generational trauma, particularly sexual trauma among Black Americans
Okay, you haaave to react to the Fiona Harvey interview with Piers Morgan.
I get that Micheal may be a victim of his ex wife and he's having issues coping with that but oh my god he's insufferable to watch. Poor Natalia.
BABY
I don't know enough about the law when it comes to adoption but i don't think christine would have been allowed to give natalia back to the agency or release custody of natalia to social services because even the first adoptive parents had to find a new family for natalia on their own, nobody from the state was going to help them because they accepted responsibility of the child when they adopted her
No, you can relinquish a child to the state regardless of how they came into your care. Many people choose to use private adoption, and I suspect it’s to keep the situation from showing up on background checks.
Unrelated: OMG Dr. Kirk, the real "Martha" Fiona Harvey was interviewed by Piers Morgan, maybe you would like to review.
Mister please react to Fiona Harvey’s interview!! (Real Martha from Baby Reindeer)
The narcissist always blames someone else..... the voice tamber shows another hidden demon LOL! ..... this poor girl....
He’s the worst
Ya, he's scum.
I said this on a video awhile ago but Id looooove for you to discuss Kendrick Lamars album Mr Morale and the Big Steppers. Its all about his trauma and journey through therapy.
BETTER HELP IS HIGHLY UNETHICAL! I get that you get paid good money from them but do your research! It’s a DANGEROUS company especially when we’re dealing with mental health!
First?!
Nope
THIRD