I love that theory that the Blue lightsaber that Palpatine wields in the Dark Empire series is the one that formerly belonged to Agen Kolar. It's a neat way to refer back to the Prequels and is also a fitting way for Palpatine to continue mocking a Jedi Master and Council member that he so easily killed.
The actual explanation was this was before the Sith as a concept really existed/Vader was the only red lightsaber user known at the time, but this in-universe theory is pretty good
There's generally the belief that the reason Exar Kun kept his blue lightsaber was because he didn't know red crystals existed. Sounds silly but truth is everything Kun learnt about the Sith he did through holocrons which had no way, or really a reason, to clarify that the Sith wielded red blades. I personally find this explanation a lot more interesting and fitting of the time period
That especially makes sense considering Exar Kun was using the first double-bladed lightsaber in history (iirc. I can't remember if it was the first ever or the first in so long it was forgotten). He was basically making it up as he went along in a way lol.
@Wes Bradley-Taubner Also remember at that point Kun and Nadd were early sith that actually used proper lightsabers unlike Sadow or Kressh who used literal swords or Xoxaan and Karness Muur using prototype lightsabers. So it's possible the red lightsaber tradition for sith had not been invented yet (Besides Kun looks cooler with a blue saber)
@Wes Bradley-Taubner For some reason I don't care for jedi with red sabers but sith the use jedi colors are just amazing Reborn Krayt Darth Revan Exar Kun Freedon Nadd Knightfall Vader All of them are some of my favorite designs in Star Wars. Aside from Lord Vader of course.
In addition to Jedi that used crimson blades, I think it would be interesting to see you guys discuss Jedi who used synthetic crystals too. That list may end up accounting for like 80% of the members of the New Jedi Order, but I'll take any excuse for more lightsaber discussion.
Luke actually used syntecized crystal for the lightsaber he has build before ROTJ. I believe, that NJO-era Jedi also have used Sith alchemy methods to synthesize lightsaber crystals. All major known crystal mines were exhausted, after all.
@@ironinquisitor3656There is this unspoken rule that if a character swears off the use of a lightsaber, they are usually going to get killed with a lightsaber.
11:00 - As far as I remember, Satele Shan used a double-bladed lightsaber with just one crystal. When Malgus cut it, it did not turn into two independent ones, like Maul's saber did, but was simply destroyed.
A little note for the swtor era sith in game under “Jedi/Sith weapons” lore tab it states that the common colors for Jedi were (blue/green/yellow) and (red/purple/orange) for the Sith Respectably
@@K.Gthealmighty But from the lore perspective I think Swtor is a good star wars game. Not a great game, but a genuine good game, I spent hours learning the star wars lore culture from swtor.
@@benrichards1694 I agree. I think different crystals doing different things practically is a bit odd since it never comes up in a movie. I wish the bleeding gave a power or something. Like they could cast lightning or pushes through the blade once “attuned” I do know some dark siders are fine with regular kybers, bleeding the crystal seems to be a sith tradition.
As long as he uses the fallen jedi crystals, I do prefer that he use non red ones, that and non force users have a tendency to screw up making red synthetic crystals pfft. You’d think he would have killed at least a few jedi with a saber staff though?
Would absolutely love to see this sequel about Jedi! You guys have a great rapport and perspectives that really compliment each other. You are able to discuss things calmly and use synergy to reach informed decisions. Also, Evan if you would ever consider doing another "How Powerful Was?" or your next VS match up- please consider EU Jedi Leia. She is criminally underused and is really interesting due to her unorthodox training and affinity for some abilities over others. Thank you for this awesome fire side chat! I always come away learning something about Star Wars, and am so glad I watched the video!
I love how the sith, at least pureblood, many times are described to have morals and a sense of honor, even If brutal/evil. Makes you think that the species could have been redeemed If the republic didn’t tried to exterminate them
There was a time where the Sith were a member of the ancient Je’daii order before the first great schism. They almost would have been affiliated with the Republic had the Je’daii Sith not fallen to the dark side.
The Republic's reasoning for their retaliation was to free the Sith species from the control of the Dark Side. Evidently, there was a point where members of their military and perhaps even a few Jedi went too far, given that the species was presumed extinct after the GHW.
I created an original character once for Star Wars and I wanted my character to have a bright white lightsaber blade and so I did some digging in the lore. What I found are Krayt Peals it is never stated what color of a blade a Krayt Peral would give off but my head cannon is that whatever color the Krayt Pearl is will influence the color of the plasma blade. Just so happens that you can get a Krayt Pearl that is pearl white and I just bring this all up because of 29:22 Great video Evan and glad to hear from you Jen.
after what happened to the gjostbusters frenchise in 2016 i have since given up completely after that shit of a film called ghostbusters 2016 i wish was never made but the force awakens brrought alot of ups and downs for me in the sequel trilogy i just love the first 6 films soo much if they make another star wars trilogy it should be good not bad but good
Hhmm.....Thats a tough one, but so far, I would say my favorite one that I've made would have to be either Darth Thanaton VS Corran Horn or my version of Darth Vader VS Yoda. I'm pretty proud of Darth Bane VS Shaak Ti as well.
I’ve gotta say you surprised me with Corran Horn vs Darth Thanaton. I remember getting hyped for this match but not knowing who Thanaton was. I remember reading his stories with Exal Kresh and I still remember the feeling of excitement when I first saw it. One of my favorites. I do love all of them and Bane vs Ti is definitely on of the best as well as Yoda Vs Vader
Yes I still know you. You have the same image. As for that match it’s a though one to call. I would personally say Raskta as she was landing hits on Obalisk Darth Bane who is way more powerful and skilled than Warb Null. Also while her force abilities basically died Warb’s force powers are ironically the worst you could possibly have against Raskta. He has no offense TK or lightning or anything just defensive which isn’t going to help him since Raskta is just bringing lightsaber combat though it would be a tough duel
@@dimond360_ ur not necessarily wrong wid anything u said but it has to be noted that bane in his orbilisk armor would just tank hits rather than actively try to block or parry as much as one normally would due to his protection so that plays a large role in her ability to land hits on him. Warb nulls armor is somewhat lightsaber resistant as well tho he has chinks in his armor like the head and hands.
Fun fact i haven't seen anyone mention. In the RotS video game theres an alternate ending where anakin wins on mustafar and then reports to palps and he gives him a replica saber with a red blade. He then proceeds to kill palps and become emperor.
This is a video I've watched several times, since it was released, and really enjoy. However, with more recent re-watches, a couple of notable dark siders, who aren't mentioned in this video, came to mind. The first one being Darth Revan. This one is fairly well known, I think. During his SWTOR appearances, he's seen with a purple saber. One example, of that, is SWTOR: Shadow of Revan. The other example, that came to mind, is Galen Marek. Now, this one seems to vary depending on which version of TFU 1 you go by. In the game and comic, Galen's saber obviously starts off as red. However, when his priority shifts from hunting Jedi, to rallying allies against the Empire, he transitions to a light blue blade. In the TFU 1 novelization, again, his saber starts off as red. However, I've heard that, following his healing aboard The Empirical, PROXY gives Galen, Rahm Kota's lightsaber As all TFU fans know, Kota's lightsaber is green. Then, there's another change which I'm not 100% certain of. I know that, in the novel, Galen is gifted his father (Kento Marek)'s blue crystal when he returns to Kashyyyk. However, and I don't know if Evan or Connor will see this comment, they mention, in their TFU Fanalysis Part 2 video, that Galen kept Kota's green crystal, combined his father's blue crystal with it, and this results in Kota's saber producing a turquoise blade. (If anyone's who's read the TFU novelization, sees this comment, please could you tell me if Galen just swapped Kota's green crystal, for his father's blue one, or the blade colour merge (from green to turquoise) is explicitly described.) I mentioned Galen because, regardless of which version of TFU you go by, he was still Vader's apprentice for the majority of the time he used a Jedi lightsaber colour.
I thinks there’s only one Jedi who used one? I can’t remember any details I just feel like it’s definitely a thing, plus the only other natural red lightsaber was used by Vader
What an interesting topic of discussion. In the films, red lightsabers are the stables of the Sith. But in the EU, kind of? Exar Kun is my favorite example of this. I think it fits him really well. And Jensaraai1 cameo? Im looking forward to this. Jensaarai1: "What makes you think I'm human" Me: Oh yeah. This is going to be some quality stuff.
Dark Empire Luke figures sometimes have a red lightsaber. Though it is a very light, almost pinkish red. I got one of them, aswell as a DE Palpatine, who's lightsaber has a very dark blue blade.
30:36 I LOVE THE WAY YOU TWO ARE HAVING THIS FIRESIDE CHAT AS IF THESE THINGS WERE REALLY ACTUALLY HAPPENING. I WISH IT WERE SO. VERY INFORMATIVE GREAT CHANNEL.
In KOTOR when Revan gets his Crystal for the test if you ask about the colors the master does say that Purple if those that walk the line of the force of using both sides
I don't remember dorak ever stating this, pretty sure he focuses solely on blue, green and yellow and says something about other colours being out there in the galaxy but never specifying anything about them
I'm just here to say Congratulations on making it to 100k subs Evan. May the force be with you and your family in these times your in and hope you continue to crush it at life.
I remember being in elementary school and knowing that red lightsabers could shatter the sabers of other colors but no one believed me. How the heck did I even know that at that age 😂😂
what do you mean by "lightsaber stability"? do red lightsabers tend to stop working or even explode? and why would red blades handle worse? aren't they all weightless energy blades? and are red blades stronger than other blades in more ways than just being able to break them? and if so, how?
Why no revan? I’ve always been so confused on why he went from a blue in the mando wars to a red as a sith to a green in the novel to a purple in swtor
I think I can make an educated guess given legends content that we know. Blue during his time in the Mando war makes sense as while he was a tactician, much like alak he was first and foremost a warrior, a Jedi guardian, he devoured knowledge of the force but also honed his skills with the lightsaber at the same time. Red is obvious, dark side he's a sith now. Green I think is meant to be a visual representation of revan becoming wiser from his journey, as the green blade is for the Jedi consular, one who doesn't intend to use the lightsaber first and would rather be wise and make peace before battle erupts. Purple is cause revan or revan reborn is a "combination" of both the light and the dark side as he was able to utilize both to a highly capable degree and was pretty powerful, though this can be questionable as that revan is the dark half of him that stayed in the physical world.
I think that one's saber color belies their inherit strengths and weaknesses of character in more of a spectrum From Sith - Jedi Red - Bronze - Purple - Yellow - Blue - Green Not saying a green Jedi, or red sith wouldn't fall or a red Jedi or green sith is completely nonsensical. It all makes sense when taking everything into consideration, and if it doesn't make sense; perhaps we don't have the full story
Great video as always Evan! If I could make a suggestion for a discussion video topic I think it would be interesting for you could speculate about what it would be like if Darth Tenebrous was able to accomplish his version of the grand plan. Using the maxi-chlorian virus to possess Anakin’s body and become the most powerful force-user. Just a thought :)
You guys forgot about Darth Revan he used a blue lightsaber as sith or a purple one depending on the media also kyp durron who wielded a purple lightsaber
Don't know if you have considered using Laranth Tarak in one of your versus episodes. She's a Grey Jedi that dual wields blaster pistols so could be interesting to see what you come up with.
So I've been rewatching and you've missed Satal Keto with vibrosword if we count him, King Ommin had a pair of swords, Cognus with her blades at the time of her inclusion to the order, Maul with Darksaber, Carnor Jax, Jacen with his vibroknife
@@TrajGreekFire And the inquisitors were trained by vader, some hands and dark side elite by palpatine, dark acolytes by dooku etc...and also starkiller (although this one is not that clear). They were all trained by sith, was any of them a sith? Nope. Jax wasn't even a dark jedi, he was just trained in some basics of the force.
Dang man, I never thought about the light sabers colors like that, I think that’s great purple is like the blue saber for the sith. That’s brilliant man lol. And after the sith rule of two started, it stayed red. And the purple was a saber that Jedi could use if they was close enough to the dark side they can get it lol, but it’s still a dark side color like red.
did you take you can make Qui-Gon Jinn vs plo koon and maybe then Qui Gon vs Kit Fisto versus ki-adi-mundi to see if he was powerful against those three and maybe then Qui Gon Jinn vs his master Dooku to see if he's worthy to face him and beat him
I would love a sequel! These discussion type videos are very fun. Quick question: Has anything in EU/Legends ever referred to lightsaber crystals as “kyber” crystals?
10:30 Incorrect, as Darth Gravid used red/green(iirc). Gravid tried to meld Jedi and Sith philosophies and went mad from it, being killed by his apprentice who restored the true Sith way.
That is what they were talking about, they did not list Gravid as a non red lightsaber user, they compared his and Caedus' attempts to meld Sith and Jedi philosophy
this was an awesome video guys i’ve always liked Sith Lords that wield other colored blades i think it looks cool one of my favorite things about Swtor in fact. would love to see the jedi version of this
What does that mean the red crystals are in harmony with the dark side? Does that make them more powerful, like for example the force user becomes faster because they are tapping into the force with anger plus the red crystal?
Jensarrai just named my perfect lightsaber a dual phase/dual bladed lightsaber like agen kolar who had blue of his dead padawaan w his green able to cycle between two although purple is my favorite lightsaber but my choice would be one that goes from 1-1.5-2m and from red to purple surprising opponents
Proof of the long-lasting staying power of the OT, PT, and EU: People still like to discuss and dissect them even after decades they came out. Meanwhile, new Di$ney Star Wars films have been all but forgotten. Even the so-called fans who liked them have run out of things to say about them.
I have plenty of things I can discuss and theorize in the new canon. Being an electrician just doesn't leave me time to make youtube videos about it lol. I think the old EU and new canon are both great in their own ways.
I think its better than The Last Jedi, but thats like being the nicest guy in prison...urrrgh, that movie was...not good in my opinion, lol. I really didnt mind the other two though, honestly - utter Disney nonsense, but it didnt make me angry.
you guys should do a discussion video on the first 12 Sith lords the jedi exiles from the 100 year darkness. Sorzus syn, xoxaan, Karness murr, dreypa etc.
The book you reference "lightsabers guide to weapons of the force" said Agen Kolar used a green blade until his padawaan tan yuster was killed in battle of geonosis and in memorial kolar added yusters blue adegan Khyber focusing crystal as a secondary blade in his hilt , meaning he could use his original green or secondary blue blade, one at a time
I love your videos regardless. You guys definitely put a lot of effort into these. I definitely like your theory on the clone palpatine using one of the Jedi masters lightsabers he killed in rots.
I think the reason SWTOR had so many Sith wielding alternative colors is because when the game was first released you needed a negative alignment to wield a red-blade and the character templates they used weren't dark-side enough. (For whatever reason. I think it might've been because they didn't have a feature to turn off dark-side degradation, not sure.) But the side-effect is quite neat.
Good to have you back xD great video as usual As a unashamedly selfadvertising; I was thinking about to start working on Star Wars artwork for obscure characters and the VS series. My starting project would be Asaak Dan, I'd ask in the community if there'd be requests forother awesome chars?
Mike Or Oh, right. When I replied earlier, I forgot that he had to get his channel taken down. Ages ago, it got hacked by some asshole who was using it to post pirated anime episodes. At the time, he was working to resolve the issue with RUclips, and this video is the first time I’ve heard from him since then.
Hey Evan, your content is what keeps me from being entirely apathetic towards what used to be my favorite franchise (god damn Disney). Thanks man. Also, vid suggestion: Obi wan vs Kyle katarn. Prob Kyle wins but I wanna hear your take on it. Cheers
Thank you, that’s really appreciated. I understand it’s difficult not to get bogged down with all the BS Disney puts out but you know, you just gotta power through it. As for Obi-Wan VS Kyle I’m planing to tackle that matchup next season.
9:41 WOW i never thought about it like that! I always wondered why he never turned on both the red and green side at once but that would have been really unwieldy when you take into account the nature of the crystals. 31:50 ooooh it would be so cool if their original lightsabers maybe came from krayt dragon stomach crystals!! Also palpatine had light in him to begin with? Unlikely.
I love that theory that the Blue lightsaber that Palpatine wields in the Dark Empire series is the one that formerly belonged to Agen Kolar. It's a neat way to refer back to the Prequels and is also a fitting way for Palpatine to continue mocking a Jedi Master and Council member that he so easily killed.
The actual explanation was this was before the Sith as a concept really existed/Vader was the only red lightsaber user known at the time, but this in-universe theory is pretty good
There's generally the belief that the reason Exar Kun kept his blue lightsaber was because he didn't know red crystals existed. Sounds silly but truth is everything Kun learnt about the Sith he did through holocrons which had no way, or really a reason, to clarify that the Sith wielded red blades. I personally find this explanation a lot more interesting and fitting of the time period
Makes sense acc, though I'd be fine with either interpretation
I figured it was because he was too stupid to add or remove crystals. Lol, JK
That especially makes sense considering Exar Kun was using the first double-bladed lightsaber in history (iirc. I can't remember if it was the first ever or the first in so long it was forgotten). He was basically making it up as he went along in a way lol.
@Wes Bradley-Taubner Also remember at that point Kun and Nadd were early sith that actually used proper lightsabers unlike Sadow or Kressh who used literal swords or Xoxaan and Karness Muur using prototype lightsabers. So it's possible the red lightsaber tradition for sith had not been invented yet
(Besides Kun looks cooler with a blue saber)
@Wes Bradley-Taubner For some reason I don't care for jedi with red sabers but sith the use jedi colors are just amazing
Reborn Krayt
Darth Revan
Exar Kun
Freedon Nadd
Knightfall Vader
All of them are some of my favorite designs in Star Wars. Aside from Lord Vader of course.
I feel like I’m in 2013-2014 again. And I feel happy.
Same
Oh man, I miss those days.
Yeeeess same :)
@Darth Geeky Virgin Hell yes. I still remember the music they used in those versus video.
God, what a time to be a fan! Evan is the one who got me into the EU.
Jensaarai1: “What makes you think I’m human? (Evil laughter)
Me: 😂😂
best part
Traj so was 10:29
Lol XD
In addition to Jedi that used crimson blades, I think it would be interesting to see you guys discuss Jedi who used synthetic crystals too. That list may end up accounting for like 80% of the members of the New Jedi Order, but I'll take any excuse for more lightsaber discussion.
Luke actually used syntecized crystal for the lightsaber he has build before ROTJ. I believe, that NJO-era Jedi also have used Sith alchemy methods to synthesize lightsaber crystals. All major known crystal mines were exhausted, after all.
How about Jedi who don't use lightsaber as well?
As well as characters who used double bladed lightsabers, non force sensitives who used lightsabers and characters who dual welded lightsabers
@@ironinquisitor3656There is this unspoken rule that if a character swears off the use of a lightsaber, they are usually going to get killed with a lightsaber.
11:00 - As far as I remember, Satele Shan used a double-bladed lightsaber with just one crystal. When Malgus cut it, it did not turn into two independent ones, like Maul's saber did, but was simply destroyed.
Yeah, because not all double bladed saberstaffs have this feature.
A little note for the swtor era sith in game under “Jedi/Sith weapons” lore tab it states that the common colors for Jedi were (blue/green/yellow) and (red/purple/orange) for the Sith Respectably
Swtor is fanfiction trash
@@K.Gthealmighty Agreed. It contradicts a bunch of stuff.
@@K.Gthealmighty But from the lore perspective I think Swtor is a good star wars game. Not a great game, but a genuine good game, I spent hours learning the star wars lore culture from swtor.
It is a shame that Disney have dictated that dark side users only use red lightsabers because their use of dark side power makes the crystal "bleed"
Its a cool concept, but it shouldn't be exclusive.
Kyber crystals are cringe
@@benrichards1694 I agree. I think different crystals doing different things practically is a bit odd since it never comes up in a movie.
I wish the bleeding gave a power or something. Like they could cast lightning or pushes through the blade once “attuned”
I do know some dark siders are fine with regular kybers, bleeding the crystal seems to be a sith tradition.
They have to actually use a technique to make it bleed, not just using the dark side.
Synthetic crystal gang
11:03 it would have been interesting to see Grevious try to forge a saberstaff from his trophies.
As long as he uses the fallen jedi crystals, I do prefer that he use non red ones, that and non force users have a tendency to screw up making red synthetic crystals pfft. You’d think he would have killed at least a few jedi with a saber staff though?
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 good point.
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 he did have darth zannah’s saber staff in legends he just didn’t use it
@@jordanreed3675 really? I thought ventress used the crystals of zannah’s saber for her weapons.
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 ventress used Komari Vosa’s lightsabers.
It’s BEEN A WHILE and oh shit Jen is here too
exactly my thoughts even gave a little cheer when he chimed in
Is that a reference to the song by Staind lmfaoo
Would absolutely love to see this sequel about Jedi! You guys have a great rapport and perspectives that really compliment each other. You are able to discuss things calmly and use synergy to reach informed decisions. Also, Evan if you would ever consider doing another "How Powerful Was?" or your next VS match up- please consider EU Jedi Leia. She is criminally underused and is really interesting due to her unorthodox training and affinity for some abilities over others.
Thank you for this awesome fire side chat! I always come away learning something about Star Wars, and am so glad I watched the video!
It will be a while but I do plan to feature EU Leia in my next Versus Series Season.
@@EvanNova95 Thank you! I hope I wasn't too pushy, but love your content!
I love how the sith, at least pureblood, many times are described to have morals and a sense of honor, even If brutal/evil. Makes you think that the species could have been redeemed If the republic didn’t tried to exterminate them
There was a time where the Sith were a member of the ancient Je’daii order before the first great schism. They almost would have been affiliated with the Republic had the Je’daii Sith not fallen to the dark side.
The Republic's reasoning for their retaliation was to free the Sith species from the control of the Dark Side. Evidently, there was a point where members of their military and perhaps even a few Jedi went too far, given that the species was presumed extinct after the GHW.
"murdered to death"
Thats worse than being killed to death.
Redundant much redundant?
That's just overkill.
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I created an original character once for Star Wars and I wanted my character to have a bright white lightsaber blade and so I did some digging in the lore. What I found are Krayt Peals it is never stated what color of a blade a Krayt Peral would give off but my head cannon is that whatever color the Krayt Pearl is will influence the color of the plasma blade. Just so happens that you can get a Krayt Pearl that is pearl white and I just bring this all up because of 29:22
Great video Evan and glad to hear from you Jen.
after what happened to the gjostbusters frenchise in 2016 i have since given up completely after that shit of a film called ghostbusters 2016 i wish was never made but the force awakens brrought alot of ups and downs for me in the sequel trilogy i just love the first 6 films soo much if they make another star wars trilogy it should be good not bad but good
I think Ulic’s link to the light was his brother rather than his saber
Ur right it is his brother in terms of his acc link but evan and jen were talking about the saber and what it means symbolically I think.
The men the myths the legends are back! I have a question for both of you. What is your favorite versus video that both of you have created?
Hhmm.....Thats a tough one, but so far, I would say my favorite one that I've made would have to be either Darth Thanaton VS Corran Horn or my version of Darth Vader VS Yoda. I'm pretty proud of Darth Bane VS Shaak Ti as well.
I’ve gotta say you surprised me with Corran Horn vs Darth Thanaton. I remember getting hyped for this match but not knowing who Thanaton was. I remember reading his stories with Exal Kresh and I still remember the feeling of excitement when I first saw it. One of my favorites. I do love all of them and Bane vs Ti is definitely on of the best as well as Yoda Vs Vader
Yes I still know you. You have the same image. As for that match it’s a though one to call. I would personally say Raskta as she was landing hits on Obalisk Darth Bane who is way more powerful and skilled than Warb Null. Also while her force abilities basically died Warb’s force powers are ironically the worst you could possibly have against Raskta. He has no offense TK or lightning or anything just defensive which isn’t going to help him since Raskta is just bringing lightsaber combat though it would be a tough duel
@@dimond360_ ur not necessarily wrong wid anything u said but it has to be noted that bane in his orbilisk armor would just tank hits rather than actively try to block or parry as much as one normally would due to his protection so that plays a large role in her ability to land hits on him. Warb nulls armor is somewhat lightsaber resistant as well tho he has chinks in his armor like the head and hands.
I love how, in your thumbnail pic, Freedon Nadd looks like he’s feeling up Bane’s orbalisks. 😂
@Todd Silagi , dude, fair. 👌
😂🤣
Ewwwwww. The orbalisks are so disgusting. I was scratching myself all the time while reading Rule of Two.
I think bane should have wielded a bronze saber, when ya look at him and his career. Great video guys, been to long.
Same
Bane using a purple lightsaber is just character art he always used a red lightsaber.
Whats the difference between a brown and bronze blade?
@@bundleization it's a brown lightsaber and it only exists in a one of a kind Chrystal which was nade of other chrystals.
@@bundleization I'm 90% sure the brown lightsaber was never shown and stupendous wave just put a bronze saber.
“Murdered to death”
13:11 idk y but I love the way lightsaber hilts were drawn in Tales of the Jedi. The simplicity mixed with jagged emitter spikes always looks so cool.
He's back!
Fun fact i haven't seen anyone mention. In the RotS video game theres an alternate ending where anakin wins on mustafar and then reports to palps and he gives him a replica saber with a red blade. He then proceeds to kill palps and become emperor.
I miss that game
I wasn't expecting Jensaarai One to be joining you on this video, but he is the lightsaber man...
it makes sense that Luke's shoto was red, given what you guys said about functionality and how he built it purposely to handle the whip
This is a video I've watched several times, since it was released, and really enjoy. However, with more recent re-watches, a couple of notable dark siders, who aren't mentioned in this video, came to mind.
The first one being Darth Revan. This one is fairly well known, I think. During his SWTOR appearances, he's seen with a purple saber. One example, of that, is SWTOR: Shadow of Revan.
The other example, that came to mind, is Galen Marek. Now, this one seems to vary depending on which version of TFU 1 you go by. In the game and comic, Galen's saber obviously starts off as red. However, when his priority shifts from hunting Jedi, to rallying allies against the Empire, he transitions to a light blue blade. In the TFU 1 novelization, again, his saber starts off as red. However, I've heard that, following his healing aboard The Empirical, PROXY gives Galen, Rahm Kota's lightsaber As all TFU fans know, Kota's lightsaber is green.
Then, there's another change which I'm not 100% certain of. I know that, in the novel, Galen is gifted his father (Kento Marek)'s blue crystal when he returns to Kashyyyk. However, and I don't know if Evan or Connor will see this comment, they mention, in their TFU Fanalysis Part 2 video, that Galen kept Kota's green crystal, combined his father's blue crystal with it, and this results in Kota's saber producing a turquoise blade. (If anyone's who's read the TFU novelization, sees this comment, please could you tell me if Galen just swapped Kota's green crystal, for his father's blue one, or the blade colour merge (from green to turquoise) is explicitly described.)
I mentioned Galen because, regardless of which version of TFU you go by, he was still Vader's apprentice for the majority of the time he used a Jedi lightsaber colour.
I would definitely like to hear about Jedi who wielded red lightsabers.
Jedi that used red lightsabers
I thinks there’s only one Jedi who used one? I can’t remember any details I just feel like it’s definitely a thing, plus the only other natural red lightsaber was used by Vader
@@thepriorstone4064 didnt Leia have one in Legends for a while?
Adi Galia
swfcocs1 she did actually Luke gave her one as a gift. Weird gift if you ask me
@@TheZackBriggs shes the only one i know that have a red blade, so a video about jedi who did would be very enlightening.
It’s been so long!!! So happy you’re back!!
What an interesting topic of discussion.
In the films, red lightsabers are the stables of the Sith.
But in the EU, kind of? Exar Kun is my favorite example of this. I think it fits him really well.
And Jensaraai1 cameo? Im looking forward to this.
Jensaarai1: "What makes you think I'm human"
Me: Oh yeah. This is going to be some quality stuff.
Dark Empire Luke figures sometimes have a red lightsaber. Though it is a very light, almost pinkish red. I got one of them, aswell as a DE Palpatine, who's lightsaber has a very dark blue blade.
You’re back! I’m so happy!!
Great video, as always. I love how much and easy is to learn legends history from your videos
Yes, i would like to see a video about jedi wielding red lightsabers.
Love the video. And may the Force be with you.
30:36 I LOVE THE WAY YOU TWO ARE HAVING THIS FIRESIDE CHAT AS IF THESE THINGS WERE REALLY ACTUALLY HAPPENING. I WISH IT WERE SO. VERY INFORMATIVE GREAT CHANNEL.
Here's hoping the guys finish reviewing the Dark Lord Trilogy with Rise of Darth Vader, but I watch what I can get
I love this topic choice and the coverage of it, thanks!
Excellent video! Love it when you guys collab and discuss the lore of SW!
In KOTOR when Revan gets his Crystal for the test if you ask about the colors the master does say that Purple if those that walk the line of the force of using both sides
I don't remember dorak ever stating this, pretty sure he focuses solely on blue, green and yellow and says something about other colours being out there in the galaxy but never specifying anything about them
I like how you guys talk about the Sith using synthetic crystals instead of bleeding the crystals like they do now
Good catch pointing out Lomi Plo, pity there's no depictions of her, either official or fanart
Listening to this while playing SWTOR gives you the right vibe :D
*I have been looking forward to this*
I'm just here to say Congratulations on making it to 100k subs Evan. May the force be with you and your family in these times your in and hope you continue to crush it at life.
Please do a video of Jedi wielding red lightsabers
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@Abe Tsenoh so Vader, lord of haters gave his boss the shaft.
I'd be down for the Jedi who used red video
There is only one in legends
@@Zaron_Gaming There's more than one. Leia, Luke, and Adi Gallia all used red lightsabers for a time.
Adi Gallia
Sharad Hett
A’Sharad Hett
Leia Organa Solo
Luke Skywalker (shoto)
"What makes you think I'm human?"
If it's any consolation, I stopped making that mistake when I found your channel again.
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I remember being in elementary school and knowing that red lightsabers could shatter the sabers of other colors but no one believed me. How the heck did I even know that at that age 😂😂
To be honest, if I was a Sith, I'd use a purple blade. As a Jedi I'd probably have a yellow one.
what do you mean by "lightsaber stability"? do red lightsabers tend to stop working or even explode?
and why would red blades handle worse? aren't they all weightless energy blades?
and are red blades stronger than other blades in more ways than just being able to break them? and if so, how?
Synthetic red crystals have are more unstable that give a chance of breaking an opponent’s lightsaber at the cost of handling
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Who's the Sith Warrior @8:37 ? I can't make out the name. Never mind I found him (Warb Null) when I searched for the short story mentioned.
Why no revan? I’ve always been so confused on why he went from a blue in the mando wars to a red as a sith to a green in the novel to a purple in swtor
I think I can make an educated guess given legends content that we know. Blue during his time in the Mando war makes sense as while he was a tactician, much like alak he was first and foremost a warrior, a Jedi guardian, he devoured knowledge of the force but also honed his skills with the lightsaber at the same time. Red is obvious, dark side he's a sith now. Green I think is meant to be a visual representation of revan becoming wiser from his journey, as the green blade is for the Jedi consular, one who doesn't intend to use the lightsaber first and would rather be wise and make peace before battle erupts. Purple is cause revan or revan reborn is a "combination" of both the light and the dark side as he was able to utilize both to a highly capable degree and was pretty powerful, though this can be questionable as that revan is the dark half of him that stayed in the physical world.
I'm pretty sure Revan first used purple in the Mandalorian Wars when he found his signature mask, but switched to blue by the end of the war.
Congrats on the 100,000 subs.
Okay, I’m just gonna throw this out to either of you. Kanan Jarrus vs Cal Kestis.
I think that's more up Antoine Bandele's alley; EvaNova95 and Jensaarai don't really do Canon matchups.
Rico Chico Malico did that fight if you want to watch his take.
I'd love to use those characters in a matchup.
I NEED to know what style Sharad hett used, if his son used Niman, did the father do the same?
I think that one's saber color belies their inherit strengths and weaknesses of character in more of a spectrum
From Sith - Jedi
Red - Bronze - Purple - Yellow - Blue - Green
Not saying a green Jedi, or red sith wouldn't fall or a red Jedi or green sith is completely nonsensical. It all makes sense when taking everything into consideration, and if it doesn't make sense; perhaps we don't have the full story
Also, if one is a revered duelist then some fluidity is expected in their choices
Great video as always Evan!
If I could make a suggestion for a discussion video topic I think it would be interesting for you could speculate about what it would be like if Darth Tenebrous was able to accomplish his version of the grand plan. Using the maxi-chlorian virus to possess Anakin’s body and become the most powerful force-user. Just a thought :)
You guys forgot about Darth Revan he used a blue lightsaber as sith or a purple one depending on the media
also kyp durron who wielded a purple lightsaber
Revan did maybe when he first became sith but later adopted red and used that mostly thru his sith career.
@@TY-km8hj Most of the time they depict him dual wielding one red and the other is either purple or blue depending on the media
"Full tilt Dva!" I loved this remark about Exar Kunt...ooops Kun. eep The term full tilt reminds me of a pin ball catastrophe.
Don't know if you have considered using Laranth Tarak in one of your versus episodes. She's a Grey Jedi that dual wields blaster pistols so could be interesting to see what you come up with.
the perfect thing for me to enjoy my morning coffee with!
What about Darth Simi? There’s not much information about her but she wielded 2 double bladed yellow lightsabers with short hilts
So I've been rewatching and you've missed Satal Keto with vibrosword if we count him, King Ommin had a pair of swords, Cognus with her blades at the time of her inclusion to the order, Maul with Darksaber, Carnor Jax, Jacen with his vibroknife
Carnor Jax was never a sith lord, he just aspired do become one. And if we counted him as such anyway, he would be the weakest sith ever.
@@emzonik8851 he was trained by lumiya as her apprentice
@@TrajGreekFire And the inquisitors were trained by vader, some hands and dark side elite by palpatine, dark acolytes by dooku etc...and also starkiller (although this one is not that clear). They were all trained by sith, was any of them a sith? Nope. Jax wasn't even a dark jedi, he was just trained in some basics of the force.
Because over thousands of years, there's sure to be some Sith that aren't fond of the color red.
Dang man, I never thought about the light sabers colors like that, I think that’s great purple is like the blue saber for the sith. That’s brilliant man lol. And after the sith rule of two started, it stayed red. And the purple was a saber that Jedi could use if they was close enough to the dark side they can get it lol, but it’s still a dark side color like red.
did you take you can make Qui-Gon Jinn vs plo koon and maybe then Qui Gon vs Kit Fisto versus ki-adi-mundi to see if he was powerful against those three and maybe then Qui Gon Jinn vs his master Dooku to see if he's worthy to face him and beat him
Didn't Revan use a red & purple saber?
I would love a sequel! These discussion type videos are very fun.
Quick question: Has anything in EU/Legends ever referred to lightsaber crystals as “kyber” crystals?
Yes, please make a follow-up vid on Jedi that used red lightsabers.
Finally someone else who made a video with me!!! Alas I will get known, alas I will have revenge!!!
Finally a new video
YES. JUST YES. I hope you are well dude and are doing well. Gonna now watch through your video.
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Incorrect, as Darth Gravid used red/green(iirc).
Gravid tried to meld Jedi and Sith philosophies and went mad from it, being killed by his apprentice who restored the true Sith way.
That is what they were talking about, they did not list Gravid as a non red lightsaber user, they compared his and Caedus' attempts to meld Sith and Jedi philosophy
Good topic, great video. Keep it up👍
I would love to see a sequel! Jedi with crimson blades would be a very interesting topic
this was an awesome video guys i’ve always liked Sith Lords that wield other colored blades i think it looks cool one of my favorite things about Swtor in fact. would love to see the jedi version of this
31:41 What's that image from?
What does that mean the red crystals are in harmony with the dark side? Does that make them more powerful, like for example the force user becomes faster because they are tapping into the force with anger plus the red crystal?
Jensarrai just named my perfect lightsaber a dual phase/dual bladed lightsaber like agen kolar who had blue of his dead padawaan w his green able to cycle between two although purple is my favorite lightsaber but my choice would be one that goes from 1-1.5-2m and from red to purple surprising opponents
Proof of the long-lasting staying power of the OT, PT, and EU: People still like to discuss and dissect them even after decades they came out. Meanwhile, new Di$ney Star Wars films have been all but forgotten. Even the so-called fans who liked them have run out of things to say about them.
And that's just beautiful
I have plenty of things I can discuss and theorize in the new canon. Being an electrician just doesn't leave me time to make youtube videos about it lol. I think the old EU and new canon are both great in their own ways.
@@korbinhranac5550 Agreed.
New Cannon has more terrible videos essays on it than the EU.
Adegian(sp?) crystal is a kyber crystal that has been blead?
Interesting. So, what do you guys make of The Mandalorian? I honestly dont know what to make of it.
I can't speak for my friends but I personally thinks its....ok.
I think its better than The Last Jedi, but thats like being the nicest guy in prison...urrrgh, that movie was...not good in my opinion, lol. I really didnt mind the other two though, honestly - utter Disney nonsense, but it didnt make me angry.
High Republic opinions?
@@writerman2915 Worrying. I havent read any of it, but what Ive read about it sounds like a Disney filled nightmare, lol...
you guys should do a discussion video on the first 12 Sith lords the jedi exiles from the 100 year darkness. Sorzus syn, xoxaan, Karness murr, dreypa etc.
That they should!
The book you reference "lightsabers guide to weapons of the force" said Agen Kolar used a green blade until his padawaan tan yuster was killed in battle of geonosis and in memorial kolar added yusters blue adegan Khyber focusing crystal as a secondary blade in his hilt , meaning he could use his original green or secondary blue blade, one at a time
My sith brothers and sisters,they only forgot to fuse there dark power into there crystals that’s all.
I love your videos regardless. You guys definitely put a lot of effort into these. I definitely like your theory on the clone palpatine using one of the Jedi masters lightsabers he killed in rots.
I think the reason SWTOR had so many Sith wielding alternative colors is because when the game was first released you needed a negative alignment to wield a red-blade and the character templates they used weren't dark-side enough. (For whatever reason. I think it might've been because they didn't have a feature to turn off dark-side degradation, not sure.)
But the side-effect is quite neat.
I love this format
Good to have you back xD great video as usual
As a unashamedly selfadvertising; I was thinking about to start working on Star Wars artwork for obscure characters and the VS series. My starting project would be Asaak Dan, I'd ask in the community if there'd be requests forother awesome chars?
Plagueis and Tenebrous badly need a makeover, man. Make it happen.
Maybe Kas’im or Saba Sebatyne?
@@goroakechi6126 www.deviantart.com/corviothinus/art/The-duel-on-Sojourn-866376721 done xD Sorry, my work pace is terrible
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Damn, you did not disappoint in the slightest. Hats off to you!
@@goroakechi6126 thank you, sir
I know I probably know the answer to this but would you consider the high republic series coming up or the Jedi within it for versus series?
Another constructed light saber video, your training is complete
Could you please send me a link to Jensaarai1's channel? I'm interested to see his ranking videos as much as yours.
You can’t just search his name here on RUclips yourself?
@@CompositeCreativity I can find videos that come up with his name, not his channel.
Mike Or Oh, right. When I replied earlier, I forgot that he had to get his channel taken down. Ages ago, it got hacked by some asshole who was using it to post pirated anime episodes. At the time, he was working to resolve the issue with RUclips, and this video is the first time I’ve heard from him since then.
@@CompositeCreativity So do you know the link?
Mike Or ruclips.net/user/Jensaarai1
He changed his name slightly to Jensaari One. He did come back. I haven’t watched him in ages.
23:47 yes, shocking as it may seem murdering people does tend to kill them
Hey Evan, your content is what keeps me from being entirely apathetic towards what used to be my favorite franchise (god damn Disney). Thanks man. Also, vid suggestion: Obi wan vs Kyle katarn. Prob Kyle wins but I wanna hear your take on it. Cheers
Thank you, that’s really appreciated. I understand it’s difficult not to get bogged down with all the BS Disney puts out but you know, you just gotta power through it. As for Obi-Wan VS Kyle I’m planing to tackle that matchup next season.
9:41 WOW i never thought about it like that! I always wondered why he never turned on both the red and green side at once but that would have been really unwieldy when you take into account the nature of the crystals.
31:50 ooooh it would be so cool if their original lightsabers maybe came from krayt dragon stomach crystals!!
Also palpatine had light in him to begin with? Unlikely.
This site is so cool! Thanks Evan!
This video is great want many more between you both
You were my first star wars youtuber!!!!