I bought this raquet 3 months ago. I can say is great for control not so good for power. So you HAVE to use your full swing to add some power in your game, it's a raquet for the intermediate-advanced player. Have some problem in my arm with higher tension strings, but now using a hybrid combination with luxilon power with 46lbs vertical and yonex confort series 44lb in horizontal and it's perfect for me. Love this raquet.
Great review. I am actually glad you compared those two racquets. It hit the spot because I am actually a spin type player looking to change it up. Your comment responses are insightful. Your transition in favoring it over the Aero and then back to the Aero again is also helpful for me. As a recreational player, I see no contradiction. I love it!
Great review mate. I also played with the OG 85 pro staff back in the late 80s. I purchased the RF version since it was 340g, 12 oz. much heavier and similar to the OG 85 pros staff.
I emailed Wilson about the 45 degree angle thing, it’s not new. It’s on my 2002 PS90 Hyper Carbon as well, and if the email from Wilson indicated to me, exists on all Pro Staffs.
Yea, not sure what the new Braid 45 construction would be then. Website says that they adjusted the angle for enhanced feel and stability. But it also says the frame is 314g and the frame has printed on it 315g. So who knows?
@@HammerItTennis I specifically asked if there was anything new as far as the angle is concerned, they said no. Just marketing! It’s fine, I love my PS90 Hyper, but investigated this because a custom paint job RF97 is only $300, a pretty good bargain when the normal RF97 is $250. And if there’s nothing different between v13 and v12 (confirmed by phone conversation with a Wilson rep yesterday), I’m just gonna order my USC colored RF97 now instead of waiting til 2021 when the price will probably go up.
Like I mentioned in the review, I've been a Babolat guy for awhile. I have hit with some of the PS97s in the past, but not more than just here and there. I need to get an older version and see how it compares to that feel as well. For what it is worth... I have found myself using this PS97 v13 and the Pure Aero has been put in time out...
How does this compare with prestige mp youtek (now prestige pro 320gr 18x20) I am considering to switch from that one to the prostaff. I have a one-handed backhand, I generate lots of spin with forehand and I have a flat and slice serve, I am aggressive baseliner player.
@@andonivr I would think that the control would be similar. I find that most control comes from my string selection rather than totally the frame anyway.
I like the review with a comparison with the racket you’re used to, it adds value to your views. Good review thanks....like others I think the music could be a little lower.
Glad you like the comparison. I think some reference helps. I also thought comparing the two racquet lines that the two guys who have 20 slams each use was appropriate!
As probably mentioned before, a little critique on the loud music compared to your mike level. I was not sure if you mentioned what strings and tensions you used on both racquets?
Yea someone else mentioned that which is weird cause on my end the music level is very low, lol. Seems like it plays back different on phones vs macs, pcs. But I appreciate the feedback on that! The strings are Weiss Cannon Silver String 1.25 gauge @ 55lbs. Thanks for the comment!
Between the weather and Covid restrictions unfortunately my productions got shut down... :( Hopefully I'll be able to get production rolling again here soon!
Yeah, I wanted that comparison for the opposite reason. I currently play with the 85. I love the weight and balance, but I'm looking for a bigger head size. On paper, the RF97 seems the best fit, but when I tried it, the balance seemed a bit more head heavy than the 85. I was wondering whether the standard 97 V13 swings like the 85 and has similar plough through.
@@goldencalf5144 just ordered an 85. Also just sprained my ankle but I should be able to hit with it in a couple of weeks and give you some feedback. That said imho any racket with 12sq.in. extra head size will *feel* more head heavy when swinging, even if the specs are the same on paper.
@@CostarreraGT_the_allknowing Thanks, I suspected the bigger head and wider beam of the RF97 made it feel heavier. I think you're going to have a lot of fun with the PS 85. It feels surprisingly light and whippy for such a heavy racquet (mine has a strung weight of 363g without any lead). The feel is unmatched by modern racquets. This was the racquet that cleaned up my groundstrokes, forcing me to hit with good form. The only downside is the lack of free power to get you out of jail when you're in trouble in a rally.
@@goldencalf5144 I just had a look at some numbers, which speak volumes. RF97 has a swingweight nearing 340. PS 97 is in the low 320s. 6.0 85 was around 321-326. So pick your poison. I picked the V13 at 315g and it works great for me. Based on SW it should match the specs of the 85 better than the RF.
Hello coach What are your thoughts about swing speed should we swing fast or use feel minimum effort to put ball to certain distance and stick to it how to gauge this ? Thanks
Great question. Just like your car, you don't drive it around always red-lining the engine, but sometimes you rev it up there when you need to pass. Same with our strokes. Also, if you don't need to blast the ball to win the point, why risk the unnecessary error? Most amateur players think they need to be blasting winners off the court to win points, but the fact is that most points are won by unforced errors. So you can win points in two ways just from that info. 1- Cut down on your errors (that can be achieved in a number of ways - that does NOT necessarily mean to swing slow or push) 2- Let your opponent make an error. Think about the golfer again, sure does Tiger bash a drive out of his shoes sometimes? Yes, but usually he stays within a tempo. You want to be in control of your stoke so when you want to swing out of your shoes you still stay in your structure. Most of the time this is about 80-90% I'd say for most players. Now if you are being overpowered or need to go for a winner then bust the ball.
@@HammerItTennis thanks 🙏 What’s a good way to gauge and stick to a tempo , should it be seen with distance ball is traveling ex if I swing with min effort relaxed and ball lands deep then good swing speed if too sort then increase little ? I sometimes tend to get tight and short when wanting to swing faster and loose sometimes balance of upper body too or legs falling too much on left on serve after landing Can u elaborate on maintaining structure as well Thanks 🙏
It is also kinda like lifting weights. There is a technique for the lift. If you try to lift a weight that is too heavy and you lose your structure you'll hurt yourself. With tennis you want to be able to keep the arm structure, form and technique that I cover in the Hammer It Method and as we've discussed. This will give you guideposts to stay within your form. Usually as players speed up, if they haven't mastered the form they tend to get outside of that structure for the shot. One thing to help staying more loose during your shot is to exhale as you hit. This is why you hear tennis players grunting. They are holding their breath for a split second and then a quick burst exhaling, because as you exhale our muscles relax. This allows for more speed and staying loose during the shot. Try blowing out as you hit to help stay relaxed and not get as tense as you swing. Try to give your shot about a 7 or 8 out of 10 power effort and go from there. Finding a rhythm is one of those things you kinda have to feel, I would try to have a song going in my head.
@@HammerItTennis can u please guide me again on video of arm structure What would be example of loosing arm structure ? As well legs balance ? Is there any way to relate swing speed with distance formulae Thanks
The structure is putting all the concepts together to build our structure. ruclips.net/p/PL4EFDvXAXAhtmwxf1T8fRGm21mrleT4-L is the playlist will the Hammer It Method video that I have uploaded so far. Use these pieces to build your forehand. Loosing this would be swinging in a manner that you aren't able to apply these concepts in the swing, so such as slapping across the ball, or not getting into your stance, or basically just swinging in a way to try to hit hard but that is not fundamentally sound. Speed and height are inverse, so that is a hard one to give a set answer on. But basically, if your shot is too short either hit harder or aim higher. Hitting on a ball machine or even drop hitting practice will help you start to get a good feel for the speed/height ratios to hit targets. Always practice with target boxes.
fwiw i liked how you compared this wilson to your babolat pure aero. I'm considering both and I'm sure there's plenty of players looking to move to a racquet with more control than spin and vice versa. i didn't have a problem with the volume of the music and i like how you fast forwarded through the shots you were taking for getting data on the racquets while giving your thoughts, because watching all of those shots at regular speed would drag on. not sure where some of these negative comments are coming from
Thanks! Made sense to me to compare to my current racquet to see if there were any advantages to switching cause of any data confirmed gains. Also, I'd think comparing the two different frames that guys with the most grand slams uses would be exactly the review you'd want to know. Can't please everyone I guess... Thanks for the views and the comment!
Hammer It Tennis im sure it will be fine. Light hit today here before the rain. Im a clash 98 guy and love it but i had to get this one. Partly for my young son that is starting to play more.
I’ve seen feedback and reviews from other testers that enjoyed the racket at 48-52 tension range, higher tensions people didn’t seem to enjoy it as much
I can see that it would feel better with strings that aren’t as tight. I strung these at 55lbs just as a middle ground. I actually typically like my strings in my Pure Aero around 50 lbs.
@@Foto_gui this frame is not recommended for beginners. The weight is a little heavier than most beginner type frames and the sweet spot is smaller as well. For a beginner I’d recommend something lighter and more geared to that level of play.
Thanks! I used my Pocket Radar to check the speed of my strokes and serves. ruclips.net/video/4e9i7Akr6Bs/видео.html here is my review of the Pocket Radar. I added a link in this description and there are links in the Pocket Radar review! Thanks!
I used in this review Weiss Cannon Silver string 1.25 gauge strung at 55lbs. As it loosened up it seemed to play better. The forehand and serving numbers matched up to my Babolat so it seemed to be just as powerful.
the ball on impact with a good poly is butter. I recommend for people with arm problems to drop the tension to 53 and below. the sweetspot and the power are all there but you lose feel and pocketing if you go higher than 55 and i felt my elbow and wrist hurting after a session or two but after a while and dropping the tension its a beautiful stick to hit with
Thanks for sharing this video. Not many people have radar guns measuring stroke speed so kudos to you for creating this and sharing. One thing I can't quite understand....There's Australian Open data that shows someone like Dimitrov for example hits his backhand at 67 mph; your radar shows you hitting your backhand at the same speed. What am I missing here? Do you think you're hitting your backhand as hard as Dimitrov?
Yea I’d say most of my strokes are not too far off from tour averages. The pocket radar seems to be very accurate so far in my testing and use of it. I also use it in a string review ruclips.net/video/mcKSKSAJzsQ/видео.html I hit my forehand around 75 mph average speed in this video as well.
@@HammerItTennis Out of curiosity, are you above a 10 UTR? Or more generally, what do you think is the difference then between you and top 100 ATP pros if your stroke speeds are similar - unless I missed it and you were one :)
I have not used the UTR rating system but looking at the description real quick I would say so, as I played national level USTA Jr tournaments and played Division I college tennis. Having a high speed on ground strokes helps but is not the only determining factor in going professional. I personally know both a man and women that played in the top 100 and maybe even top 50 but they had different support systems than I had at a younger age. Also being just a little taller would have made a really big difference too! lol
Hey thanks for the feedback! I try to keep the reviews to somewhat of a reasonable time frame for viewers and if I didn't speed up some of the strokes it would add alot more time, and most views average maybe have of the video in watch time. However, I understand where you are coming from as well and I'll take that into consideration going forward. I appreciate the comment! Thanks!
Hammer It Tennis Yea no problem, what you should do instead is just edit the footage to match up with the amount of time that you talk. So instead of keeping in all the footage and speeding some up just cut out 7/10 of the forehands but the 3/10 that you keep play them at normal speed
@@HammerItTennis The Pro Staff seems to have comparable power to the Aero (your test proves it). Why do other reviews generally say it is a low powered racquet or that it doesn't offer any easy power? Is that just a misconception based on older versions?
I will admit that the Pro Staff seems muted off the face to me too. I thought for sure going into this test that the Pro Staff was going to produce less power. I was surprised when I did this test and it had comparable power levels. The Aero just seems to pop better to me. The Pro Staff also seems like it absorbs vibration better, so maybe that is what is causing players to feel like it is under powered.
@@HammerItTennis That's an interesting observation and would certainly explain the "low powered" reviewers who did not measure actual speed. Tennis Warehouse's racquet power maps also show figures not far off the Aero. Perhaps the v13 is one of the most misunderstood racquets out there because of its ability to absorb shock/power. Btw, the side by side review of top racquets with actual performance measurement is very helpful.
Don’t think we can really compare a PureAero with a Prostaff. They are very different racquet for different type of swing style. One is a light, hollow frame for a faster swing, the other is a denser, more solid frame for a loose swing style.
Why wouldn't I want to compare a new racquet to the racquet that I am currently using? That is the only way to see if the racquet offers improvement to my game. So you are saying that you can't compare a wood racquet to a modern racquet (since they are very different racquets)? They both are to play the same sport. One offers way more power and durability than the other, but one offers a more flexible frame (so what? how does the ball come off the racquet is all that matters). Just because the manufacturers may suggest one racquet for different swing styles does that mean that those swing styles actually benefit from those racquets? Regardless I am literally comparing one racquet that I use to another potential racquet to see if I would want to switch and at the same time, since I used the same balls, string, and player hitting the shots, it gives everyone else a sense of how it compares in terms of pace potential and spin.
@@HammerItTennis i think you take it too far. He is just trying to say these rackets are suitable for different types of players. maybe he just wanna give you an advice that you may take more rackets to compare with so that different players can get informations to improve their game. I am using prostaff 97 2016, of course not cv version. I think it is a good frame for advanced players considering it gives decent power also maintain good stability. I have played a lot of frames in fact. when I reminisce I think what a good racket serves is only power and stability plus constant feedback. weight and swing weight should be personal.
@@Practicalthinking-u2p I totally understand that, but I am just comparing the frame that I was currently using and a new potential frame. How else would I compare them? It isn't like I am trying to compare a golf driver to a fairway wood (completely different applications). You only can use one racquet when you play tennis, so why wouldn't you want to know which racquet gives you more power/spin. As I mentioned the Pro Staff was about the same power level and had a little less spin than a Pure Aero, but I felt more feel, which is purely subjective. Could I compare it to the older versions of Pro Staff absolutely, but I don't play with those racquets. As I mentioned in another comment... for what it is worth, I am finding myself using mainly the ProStaff now and leaving my Pure Aero in the bag.
@@HammerItTennis I found this helpful as I still use the original pro staff (again) after using more modern racquets. I love the feel and the heavy ball it creates. BUT, getting old and not in the shape I was. There are so many racquets on the market and a lot tend to be stiffer and lighter, so I appreciate your comparison between these dissimilar frames from an output perspective, and your comments on the feel of the racquet were helpful.
This is a weird review. Why would you compare the PS to the Pure Aero? They are literally opposite ends of the racquet spectrum and would never be in competition for a player that likes one or the other.
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I bought this raquet 3 months ago. I can say is great for control not so good for power. So you HAVE to use your full swing to add some power in your game, it's a raquet for the intermediate-advanced player. Have some problem in my arm with higher tension strings, but now using a hybrid combination with luxilon power with 46lbs vertical and yonex confort series 44lb in horizontal and it's perfect for me. Love this raquet.
Great review. I am actually glad you compared those two racquets. It hit the spot because I am actually a spin type player looking to change it up. Your comment responses are insightful. Your transition in favoring it over the Aero and then back to the Aero again is also helpful for me. As a recreational player, I see no contradiction. I love it!
Thanks for the comment! It is one thing to think a racquet helps your game, it’s another to see the numbers!
Great review mate. I also played with the OG 85 pro staff back in the late 80s. I purchased the RF version since it was 340g, 12 oz. much heavier and similar to the OG 85 pros staff.
I customized my 85 with considerable lead tape. I feel like the modern Pro Staffs lack the same pop.
The 97L version is only 10.8oz strung, I love it!
tradition + modern stick = phenomenal combination
What grip are you using the purple one. Love the color cant find it
The grip you see on the racquet is Tournagrip over grip. It’s actually a blue color. Here’s the link to purchase: amzn.to/41Y2jrR
I emailed Wilson about the 45 degree angle thing, it’s not new. It’s on my 2002 PS90 Hyper Carbon as well, and if the email from Wilson indicated to me, exists on all Pro Staffs.
Yea, not sure what the new Braid 45 construction would be then. Website says that they adjusted the angle for enhanced feel and stability. But it also says the frame is 314g and the frame has printed on it 315g. So who knows?
@@HammerItTennis I specifically asked if there was anything new as far as the angle is concerned, they said no. Just marketing! It’s fine, I love my PS90 Hyper, but investigated this because a custom paint job RF97 is only $300, a pretty good bargain when the normal RF97 is $250. And if there’s nothing different between v13 and v12 (confirmed by phone conversation with a Wilson rep yesterday), I’m just gonna order my USC colored RF97 now instead of waiting til 2021 when the price will probably go up.
Like I mentioned in the review, I've been a Babolat guy for awhile. I have hit with some of the PS97s in the past, but not more than just here and there. I need to get an older version and see how it compares to that feel as well. For what it is worth... I have found myself using this PS97 v13 and the Pure Aero has been put in time out...
Yeah noted, great video!
@@siddarthaone7355 Thanks!
How does this compare with prestige mp youtek (now prestige pro 320gr 18x20) I am considering to switch from that one to the prostaff.
I have a one-handed backhand, I generate lots of spin with forehand and I have a flat and slice serve, I am aggressive baseliner player.
I personally have not hit with this model of the Head Prestige. In the past, prestige models felt more flexible to me but not too far off.
@@HammerItTennis I am afraid of losing control if I switch to prostaff.
@@andonivr I would think that the control would be similar. I find that most control comes from my string selection rather than totally the frame anyway.
I like the review with a comparison with the racket you’re used to, it adds value to your views. Good review thanks....like others I think the music could be a little lower.
Glad you like the comparison. I think some reference helps. I also thought comparing the two racquet lines that the two guys who have 20 slams each use was appropriate!
Good review, using the ball launcher is a plus but music is too loud
I'll try to work on the volume for the future! Thanks for the feedback!
As probably mentioned before, a little critique on the loud music compared to your mike level. I was not sure if you mentioned what strings and tensions you used on both racquets?
Yea someone else mentioned that which is weird cause on my end the music level is very low, lol. Seems like it plays back different on phones vs macs, pcs. But I appreciate the feedback on that!
The strings are Weiss Cannon Silver String 1.25 gauge @ 55lbs.
Thanks for the comment!
@Hammer It Tennis : Where is that 97 vs 85 review? I'm super curious as I play with the 97 v13 and have been dying to get my hands on an 85
Between the weather and Covid restrictions unfortunately my productions got shut down... :( Hopefully I'll be able to get production rolling again here soon!
Yeah, I wanted that comparison for the opposite reason. I currently play with the 85. I love the weight and balance, but I'm looking for a bigger head size. On paper, the RF97 seems the best fit, but when I tried it, the balance seemed a bit more head heavy than the 85. I was wondering whether the standard 97 V13 swings like the 85 and has similar plough through.
@@goldencalf5144 just ordered an 85. Also just sprained my ankle but I should be able to hit with it in a couple of weeks and give you some feedback. That said imho any racket with 12sq.in. extra head size will *feel* more head heavy when swinging, even if the specs are the same on paper.
@@CostarreraGT_the_allknowing Thanks, I suspected the bigger head and wider beam of the RF97 made it feel heavier. I think you're going to have a lot of fun with the PS 85. It feels surprisingly light and whippy for such a heavy racquet (mine has a strung weight of 363g without any lead). The feel is unmatched by modern racquets. This was the racquet that cleaned up my groundstrokes, forcing me to hit with good form. The only downside is the lack of free power to get you out of jail when you're in trouble in a rally.
@@goldencalf5144 I just had a look at some numbers, which speak volumes. RF97 has a swingweight nearing 340. PS 97 is in the low 320s. 6.0 85 was around 321-326. So pick your poison. I picked the V13 at 315g and it works great for me. Based on SW it should match the specs of the 85 better than the RF.
Hello coach
What are your thoughts about swing speed should we swing fast or use feel minimum effort to put ball to certain distance and stick to it how to gauge this ?
Thanks
Great question. Just like your car, you don't drive it around always red-lining the engine, but sometimes you rev it up there when you need to pass. Same with our strokes. Also, if you don't need to blast the ball to win the point, why risk the unnecessary error? Most amateur players think they need to be blasting winners off the court to win points, but the fact is that most points are won by unforced errors. So you can win points in two ways just from that info. 1- Cut down on your errors (that can be achieved in a number of ways - that does NOT necessarily mean to swing slow or push) 2- Let your opponent make an error. Think about the golfer again, sure does Tiger bash a drive out of his shoes sometimes? Yes, but usually he stays within a tempo. You want to be in control of your stoke so when you want to swing out of your shoes you still stay in your structure. Most of the time this is about 80-90% I'd say for most players. Now if you are being overpowered or need to go for a winner then bust the ball.
@@HammerItTennis thanks 🙏
What’s a good way to gauge and stick to a tempo , should it be seen with distance ball is traveling ex if I swing with min effort relaxed and ball lands deep then good swing speed if too sort then increase little ? I sometimes tend to get tight and short when wanting to swing faster and loose sometimes balance of upper body too or legs falling too much on left on serve after landing
Can u elaborate on maintaining structure as well
Thanks 🙏
It is also kinda like lifting weights. There is a technique for the lift. If you try to lift a weight that is too heavy and you lose your structure you'll hurt yourself. With tennis you want to be able to keep the arm structure, form and technique that I cover in the Hammer It Method and as we've discussed. This will give you guideposts to stay within your form. Usually as players speed up, if they haven't mastered the form they tend to get outside of that structure for the shot. One thing to help staying more loose during your shot is to exhale as you hit. This is why you hear tennis players grunting. They are holding their breath for a split second and then a quick burst exhaling, because as you exhale our muscles relax. This allows for more speed and staying loose during the shot. Try blowing out as you hit to help stay relaxed and not get as tense as you swing. Try to give your shot about a 7 or 8 out of 10 power effort and go from there. Finding a rhythm is one of those things you kinda have to feel, I would try to have a song going in my head.
@@HammerItTennis can u please guide me again on video of arm structure
What would be example of loosing arm structure ? As well legs balance ? Is there any way to relate swing speed with distance formulae
Thanks
The structure is putting all the concepts together to build our structure. ruclips.net/p/PL4EFDvXAXAhtmwxf1T8fRGm21mrleT4-L is the playlist will the Hammer It Method video that I have uploaded so far. Use these pieces to build your forehand. Loosing this would be swinging in a manner that you aren't able to apply these concepts in the swing, so such as slapping across the ball, or not getting into your stance, or basically just swinging in a way to try to hit hard but that is not fundamentally sound. Speed and height are inverse, so that is a hard one to give a set answer on. But basically, if your shot is too short either hit harder or aim higher. Hitting on a ball machine or even drop hitting practice will help you start to get a good feel for the speed/height ratios to hit targets. Always practice with target boxes.
no backhand volley and smash?
fwiw i liked how you compared this wilson to your babolat pure aero. I'm considering both and I'm sure there's plenty of players looking to move to a racquet with more control than spin and vice versa.
i didn't have a problem with the volume of the music and i like how you fast forwarded through the shots you were taking for getting data on the racquets while giving your thoughts, because watching all of those shots at regular speed would drag on. not sure where some of these negative comments are coming from
Thanks! Made sense to me to compare to my current racquet to see if there were any advantages to switching cause of any data confirmed gains. Also, I'd think comparing the two different frames that guys with the most grand slams uses would be exactly the review you'd want to know. Can't please everyone I guess... Thanks for the views and the comment!
What is the String Tansion ?
55 lbs
@@HammerItTennis thanks sir
Please tell us what shoes you have on in the video.
Those are Nike GP Turbo Shoes here is my review on them! I like them alot! ruclips.net/video/_cgqOY_zmdg/видео.html
@@HammerItTennis thank you !
Just had to buy one because of the looks!
I was right there with you! I am finding out that I also am really starting to really love how it plays...
Hammer It Tennis im sure it will be fine. Light hit today here before the rain. Im a clash 98 guy and love it but i had to get this one. Partly for my young son that is starting to play more.
What is the tennis grip on your racket as seen from the title? Is it better than Wilson comfort grip
Tournagrip. By far my favorite.
I'm curious if you remember what your string setup was when you tried this pro staff?
Weiss Cannon Silver string 1.25 @ 55 lbs
I’ve seen feedback and reviews from other testers that enjoyed the racket at 48-52 tension range, higher tensions people didn’t seem to enjoy it as much
I can see that it would feel better with strings that aren’t as tight. I strung these at 55lbs just as a middle ground. I actually typically like my strings in my Pure Aero around 50 lbs.
i love this racket at a high tension. gives me ultimate control
Do you recommend for beginners?
@@Foto_gui this frame is not recommended for beginners. The weight is a little heavier than most beginner type frames and the sweet spot is smaller as well. For a beginner I’d recommend something lighter and more geared to that level of play.
@@HammerItTennis thank you very much for the reply. I bought a wilson blade v6 instead. hope it works rs
Nice review! Definitiely going to demo this version!
How were you measuring the strokes?
Thanks! I used my Pocket Radar to check the speed of my strokes and serves. ruclips.net/video/4e9i7Akr6Bs/видео.html here is my review of the Pocket Radar. I added a link in this description and there are links in the Pocket Radar review! Thanks!
If i get the pro staff 97 v13 and string it up with a powerful poly will i be able to access the necessary power ?
I used in this review Weiss Cannon Silver string 1.25 gauge strung at 55lbs. As it loosened up it seemed to play better. The forehand and serving numbers matched up to my Babolat so it seemed to be just as powerful.
the ball on impact with a good poly is butter. I recommend for people with arm problems to drop the tension to 53 and below. the sweetspot and the power are all there but you lose feel and pocketing if you go higher than 55 and i felt my elbow and wrist hurting after a session or two but after a while and dropping the tension its a beautiful stick to hit with
@@lorenischangstonhughes thanks for your help
What string you put on this test video?
Weiss Cannon Silver String 1.25mm gauge @ 55 lbs
Thanks for sharing this video. Not many people have radar guns measuring stroke speed so kudos to you for creating this and sharing. One thing I can't quite understand....There's Australian Open data that shows someone like Dimitrov for example hits his backhand at 67 mph; your radar shows you hitting your backhand at the same speed. What am I missing here? Do you think you're hitting your backhand as hard as Dimitrov?
Yea I’d say most of my strokes are not too far off from tour averages. The pocket radar seems to be very accurate so far in my testing and use of it. I also use it in a string review ruclips.net/video/mcKSKSAJzsQ/видео.html I hit my forehand around 75 mph average speed in this video as well.
@@HammerItTennis Out of curiosity, are you above a 10 UTR? Or more generally, what do you think is the difference then between you and top 100 ATP pros if your stroke speeds are similar - unless I missed it and you were one :)
I have not used the UTR rating system but looking at the description real quick I would say so, as I played national level USTA Jr tournaments and played Division I college tennis. Having a high speed on ground strokes helps but is not the only determining factor in going professional. I personally know both a man and women that played in the top 100 and maybe even top 50 but they had different support systems than I had at a younger age. Also being just a little taller would have made a really big difference too! lol
Great review
Thank you!
which strings are you using?
I strung it with Weiss Cannon Silver String in 1.25 gauge at 55 lbs. To be honest the looser that the string gets the better it feels in this frame.
What was the swingweight of the one you were using V13?
Tennis Warehouse has the swing weight listed as 321
@@HammerItTennis hi, I have seen this, mine is listed at 301, can you just quickly use an RDC to see what it actually is...😁👍
I would if I had one!
Good review, but it is extremely annoying to watch sped up footage im not sure why you did that
Hey thanks for the feedback! I try to keep the reviews to somewhat of a reasonable time frame for viewers and if I didn't speed up some of the strokes it would add alot more time, and most views average maybe have of the video in watch time. However, I understand where you are coming from as well and I'll take that into consideration going forward. I appreciate the comment! Thanks!
Hammer It Tennis Yea no problem, what you should do instead is just edit the footage to match up with the amount of time that you talk. So instead of keeping in all the footage and speeding some up just cut out 7/10 of the forehands but the 3/10 that you keep play them at normal speed
Thanks for the suggestion, I'm always trying to mix it up with my videos and try different styles! I'll have to try some different edits.
Nice looking but I prefer my Babolat Pure Strike (3rd Gen)
I've used the Pure Aero (Aero Pro before that) for while and I have to say... I've been finding myself mainly using the Pro Staff now.
@@HammerItTennis The Pro Staff seems to have comparable power to the Aero (your test proves it). Why do other reviews generally say it is a low powered racquet or that it doesn't offer any easy power? Is that just a misconception based on older versions?
I will admit that the Pro Staff seems muted off the face to me too. I thought for sure going into this test that the Pro Staff was going to produce less power. I was surprised when I did this test and it had comparable power levels. The Aero just seems to pop better to me. The Pro Staff also seems like it absorbs vibration better, so maybe that is what is causing players to feel like it is under powered.
Also, I have gone back to mainly using the Aero Pro...
@@HammerItTennis That's an interesting observation and would certainly explain the "low powered" reviewers who did not measure actual speed. Tennis Warehouse's racquet power maps also show figures not far off the Aero. Perhaps the v13 is one of the most misunderstood racquets out there because of its ability to absorb shock/power. Btw, the side by side review of top racquets with actual performance measurement is very helpful.
Don’t think we can really compare a PureAero with a Prostaff. They are very different racquet for different type of swing style. One is a light, hollow frame for a faster swing, the other is a denser, more solid frame for a loose swing style.
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Why wouldn't I want to compare a new racquet to the racquet that I am currently using? That is the only way to see if the racquet offers improvement to my game. So you are saying that you can't compare a wood racquet to a modern racquet (since they are very different racquets)? They both are to play the same sport. One offers way more power and durability than the other, but one offers a more flexible frame (so what? how does the ball come off the racquet is all that matters). Just because the manufacturers may suggest one racquet for different swing styles does that mean that those swing styles actually benefit from those racquets?
Regardless I am literally comparing one racquet that I use to another potential racquet to see if I would want to switch and at the same time, since I used the same balls, string, and player hitting the shots, it gives everyone else a sense of how it compares in terms of pace potential and spin.
@@HammerItTennis i think you take it too far. He is just trying to say these rackets are suitable for different types of players. maybe he just wanna give you an advice that you may take more rackets to compare with so that different players can get informations to improve their game.
I am using prostaff 97 2016, of course not cv version. I think it is a good frame for advanced players considering it gives decent power also maintain good stability. I have played a lot of frames in fact. when I reminisce I think what a good racket serves is only power and stability plus constant feedback. weight and swing weight should be personal.
@@Practicalthinking-u2p I totally understand that, but I am just comparing the frame that I was currently using and a new potential frame. How else would I compare them? It isn't like I am trying to compare a golf driver to a fairway wood (completely different applications). You only can use one racquet when you play tennis, so why wouldn't you want to know which racquet gives you more power/spin. As I mentioned the Pro Staff was about the same power level and had a little less spin than a Pure Aero, but I felt more feel, which is purely subjective. Could I compare it to the older versions of Pro Staff absolutely, but I don't play with those racquets. As I mentioned in another comment... for what it is worth, I am finding myself using mainly the ProStaff now and leaving my Pure Aero in the bag.
@@HammerItTennis I found this helpful as I still use the original pro staff (again) after using more modern racquets. I love the feel and the heavy ball it creates. BUT, getting old and not in the shape I was. There are so many racquets on the market and a lot tend to be stiffer and lighter, so I appreciate your comparison between these dissimilar frames from an output perspective, and your comments on the feel of the racquet were helpful.
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Good review but the music is annoying - way too loud.
This is a weird review. Why would you compare the PS to the Pure Aero? They are literally opposite ends of the racquet spectrum and would never be in competition for a player that likes one or the other.
Umm because I played with a Pure Aero and wanted to see how the Pro Staff compared to it in generating spin, power and feel...?
Just ok review - liked the stats you produced, Did not like the speeded up video - would prefer to see a hitting partner.
Thanks for the feedback.
with your techniq forget about pro racquets