@@EposVox bro can you please share the Adobe Premier render settings (export settings), i have a rx 6800xt i use AMD Relive to record gameplay and instant replay to record my top plays, i use HEVC and 60Mb/s bitrate, my raw file footage looks crisp and quality(i tried 100Mb/s too) , but when i upload to youtube the quality drop so much.. if you could share the render settings it would really help me a lot in making contents. thank in advance. btw love your Tshirt.
17:15 As someone who has been working in school district IT support since 2011...those hotkeys were the bane of my existence lol. So many teachers would submit tickets frantically requesting help to fix their screen rotation and even if we showed them how to fix it so they don't have any computers "down," they always forgot. But the students....the students never forgot.
Finally. Some good PR for AMD. Thank you. I've been using relive a lot in the past. The entire Radeon software stack is just better. Not by a little. it's monstrously better.
If Twitch finally gets off their butts and implements AV1 stream encoding I will drop everything I'm doing and go buy a RX 7k series GPU. High quality streaming is my dream and I refuse to overpay for an Nvidia GPU just for Nvenc.
@@flamingscar5263 Possibly but I still hope it’s just like that because Nvidia more market share so it makes sense to do it for them first and eventually do AMD and Intel.
@@rustable4165 Intel's encoding performance is bad, even on AV1 due to it being their first series. I recommend waiting for the next generation of Intel cards for when they (_hopefully_) use their problems and feedback to make better cards.
I have a 4090 and 2080 Super in my 2 main gaming PCs, but I used to have a 6600XT Red Devil. I miss the AMD drivers and Relive a lot. I appreciate you explaining Relive because a lot of people don't even realize it exists. I never had any problems occur while using it either. Well done AMD!
@@officalflash5534 I shouldn't jump to conclusions, but I wonder if you're running any kind of overclocks. AMD software and drivers are usually sensitive to such things.
What's funny is how the control panel of NVIDIA goes all the way back to Windows 2000. I still have some screenshots of my W2000 OS with the very same NVIDIA Control Panel we know to this day. Which was around 1999. The control panel is much older than that for sure, since Rivatuner (now known as RTSS) was made because how bad the Control Panel was and that was in 1997.
Let's not forget about the slow switch between menus and settings. AMD's control panel is hella fast and has everything in one place, one program, no login required.
I miss ReLive so much. I love everything else about my RTX 3070, but ShadowPlay is just a pain point for me these days. Most of the time I either doesn't record all of the audio (i.e. it'll record my mic + game but not my friends on Discord) or it records all of my monitors or some of them instead of just the game. Also having to go back and re-encode all of my videos with HEVC is a really pain and takes so much extra time even with scripts.
You’re wrong about Radeon Chill on desktop! I play single-player games and I use Radeon Chill to limit the power my GPU throws away while not benefitting me. I set the minimum FPS to 72 and the maximum to 144 or 143 on my 144 Hz display, and this allows games to never exceed the refresh rate of my monitor, saving power and tearing, and also lets AMD ramp things further down in slow scenes when a higher frame rate isn’t of benefit. It significantly reduces power draw of Radeon GPUs and is, in my eyes, a very valuable feature for keeping my room comfortable.
As an NVIDIA user that has stuck by them far too long, I am absolutely SICK of Shadowplay. I am sick of how often the functionality has changed over the years. Some updates have seen it getting stripped down, offering fewer quality options and frequently the service malfunctions and you have to restart it, or restart your entire computer if it doesn't wanna cooperate. I'm just about at that point where I might finally purchase an AMD card again. I don't want NVIDIA to be top dog anymore, because they've gotten lazy and aggressively anti-consumer. EVGA had every right to be sick of them, too.
It is a perfectly usable product People seem to think that change for change sake is good. Does it do what it needs to do in a clear and concise way? Yes then adding a shiny cost of makeup on top of it just takes more overhead. Also GeForce experiences ui is modern e ough and does exactly what it needs to do, update drivers, allow for easy game optimizations etc.
@@LetrixAR It really isn't fine, it's overcomplicated and painfully slow, people just don't recognise that because it looks simplistic. It's one of the reasons I abandoned Nvidia.
Nvidia's inability to update the Nvidia control panel is just stupid at this point and no Geforce Experience is not part of the driver and is an optional spyware.
There's still one huge problem with relive. It still cant record HDR gameplay, its just white screen. I was trying to find out what is the problem and after looking at forums people have been reporting this problem to amd for years and yet its still broken.
Radeon Software is probably the only thing I miss from my former Radeon card. While Nvidia Control Panel UI is very intuitive, it's also very sluggish and I need to install bloatware and create an account (GeForce Experience) in order to access features that are present on a single application on Radeon cards. Also, Radeon overlay shows a lot more information than Nvidia one, like VRAM usage. Ideally, we would have a complete package like Radeon Software but with Nvidia drivers and encoder.
Could you tell me about performance hit while having instant replay on? I want to buy an amd card and currently I'm using gtx1060 with replay set to last 30s 15Mbps and it doesn't cause any significant fps loss, maybe 2-5%. Is relive the same?
Yeah this is what ive been saying ever since switching to AMD. It made me realise how bad and outdated Nvidias software is. Never bothered with shadow play because it was always so unclear to me how to use it. But with AMD software it is so damn easy to use, also it is something i can quickly bring up in an overlay when playing games.
But can you FINALLY use instant replay on windowed mode games? Cause thats the one thing that makes shadowplay considerably better than relive. In fact amd has always seemed to pretend that windowed mode gaming doesn't exist. For instance, they still haven't supported freesync in windowed mode games.
Even if Im a OBS user, some things just works better in Relive, like replays. And I had problebms streaming CP2077 with my RX590, trying a lot of different settings, but Relive is just works. Still its too simple for me, but Im glad that its exist. Show my friend how to setup replay buffer so now I could see all these "you wouldnt believe" moments
Ey! Do not diss OBS. Relive is not better or anything. Stop it. It is just AMD that have the advantage of making sure there software solution works even under extreme load. It is a sign that AMD should work more with OBS to make sure it works as good or better with OBS Studio. It is very likely AMD that messed up and the card being pushed hard outstrips the encoders resources to much. Or something bad is happening that they worked around in there Relive software. That is not the right fix. NVIDIA is just as bad on that front.
@@TheDiner50 Nope, I dont diss OBS, so I agree with you that AMD did a good job of optimiztion of their own software. So yes, it would be awesome for AMD to work more with OBS. I mean its already works fine, its more like its a Cyberpunk problem, cause other games are fine.
Shadowplay doesn’t “work better than OBS”, it has less of a performance hit specifically because it doesn’t do any of the stuff OBS does lol. Different tools for different jobs
For Enhanced Filtering at 13:46 the trees looks waaaay less blurrier, any vmaf score comparison? (im lazy for just taking that score i know) a bit closer of nvidia nvenc each day :) (for AMD users just bump the bitrate AVC 10% and you have the same, or buy a 50$ GTX1050 to work alongside) ill be waiting the next vmaf score encoder showdown video. -plus GIF recording is godsent for casual gameplay with friends, and ingame replay show is really cool to have (note the hotkey is bug for me, i have to change the hotkey to make it work, very important)
Hated Shadowplay because I just didn't like the stifled choices for what you record and how. AND THEN after having a nice little library for clips and videos, I find that I have 0 audio because it didn't mix very well with my GoXLR mini. I uninstalled immediately
24 Mb/s is loosless enough for 1080p AVC for the first stage and with smart rendering the next stage would be fine. I don't know about higher resolutions, but that what I do on 1080p. I will upgrade for AV1 soon. I wonder what my new settings are going to be 🤔
@@EposVox yeah idk. I got a 5600x and rtx 3080. Cpu/Gpu usage never hits over 80% with my settings, but with shadowplay 35+k bitrate just will never ever record properly, but with obs I can record 100k with zero issues, and with AV1 support coming, I really think my next gpu will be amd, nvidia software is too dated, and too many steps to do what relive can in half the time browsing the UI lol.
The only reason im not using it to record casual bullshit gameplay is the fact that there is no way to make it record your mic in mono, if you're using an audio interface that has inputs in pairs of L/R. I'm not putting 20 second clips inside an editing program just to convert my mic track/file to mono
With the option to save an archive while streaming, does it use the left-side recording settings for that archive, or does it use the streaming settings? It's one thing I love about OBS, being able to stream with ~3500kbps / 720p but record in 30-50mbps / 1080p for later editing. I've thought about using ReLive but haven't yet jumped in to try it out. I would really love for their whole suite to work on Linux. Especially with the Steam Deck being built entirely on AMD hardware I think it would be the perfect way to add recording/streaming options to it, without needing to fiddle with Desktop mode and getting OBS set up and working in Game mode.
@@EposVox Ah, good to know. Disappointing, but maybe future updates will take the OBS route. Maybe split the streaming encoding out to the CPU, with the recording encoding to the GPU. Or vice versa.
just wish Relive also supported/allowed CQP recordings (at least wirh my 5700XT i don't have the option) and gave us the option to select separate storage devices (or folders) for each media type :/
3:22 And this is why Nvidia has 80% of the market. People some how always have these AMD software problems. Yet I have been using AMD hardware since 2017 and never had Adrenalin crash on me like that. Went from a RX 590 to a 7900 XTX this week. Only driver crash I have had was in lords of the fallen on my RX 590 when testing out stable overclocks. Great video talking about how AMD is a step above Nvidia. AMD just can't catch a break 98% of the time anymore on social media.
when I had the rx 5700 I used these amd relive stuff and it worked really well for me, going back to nvidia I miss it, shadowplay is buggy af, and like mentioned in the video it looks abandoned, I wish for having multiple lenght of playback videos, fixing to 30 sec or 1 min it's not always what I want everytime
I would love to use ReLive for desktop/game recording but it always records the notification of when you start recording. It's a real pain to have to edit out so I don't even bother using ReLive. It even records any overlay displaying that a recording is in progress. I wish there was a way to disable that or ignore any onscreen overlays like Nvidia does.
How does 7900 XT / XTX encoder performs compared to RTX 4080? Does it use the same resources that run the game or it has separate processing? I've read somewhere that AMD encoder can "overload" and drop frames if the game is more demanding / uses more resources. I never had that issue on my 1080 Ti so I'm thinking of upgrading between 4080 and 7900 XTX but I cannot find a lot of detailed info on that. Would be nice to find a detailed comparison between 4080 and 7900 encoders.
Has anyone noticed that with the current version of adrenaline 23.4.2 that the RUclips api for streaming doesn’t work? I added RUclips as an account and went to test streaming and it just fails.. no errors.. just a quick blue circle and nothing else. Flipped to twitch and was streaming almost immediately.
Hi @EposVox nice video love it, but I have a question about the relive streaming. Do you lose fps in game while streaming or affect in a way the performance of the gpu? Do you recomand to use relive on a rx 6650xt to stream?
Rx 5700xt user here, an older card with similar performance. But there is a very slight performance hit, nothing major. A 6650xt should be just fine, but you might have to make some adjustments to your settings depending on game and resolution if you're trying to hit a specific fps target.
Radeon Chill is n o t only for Notebooks , i limit the FPS to the Refresh rate of my Monitor = less Heat , less noise , less Power consumption and pobably an longer life for your GPU ... , is it usefull to have 300-400 FPS if your Monitor can only Display 144 FPS or 165 FPS and i know , there are now higher refresh Rate Monitor with 240 Hz and higher but those are expensive and make basically no Sense aside of som e sports fanatics .
Is there a way to use Shadowplay Highlights with a dual PC setup, or the only way is to have shadowplay in your main gaming pc to detect the eliminations and stuff?
You could *theoretically* use it with a full screen capture card preview and desktop capture, but you’d be missing sound and it wouldn’t be reliable - and if you’re already using the capture card might as well use OBS
@@EposVox Thx for the fast reply, yeah I'm already using OBS, In my streaming PC. I was just wondering if I could also use Shadowplay Highlights together, to save time auto cropping highlights and stuff
Is someone streaming and gaming from an RX 7900 XTX? Any issues. Is the quality the same as Nvidia now? Putting a single PC streaming/gaming rig together and don't want risking getting burned on and, as it happened once before to me already. Much appreciated
So are you saying that if I own an AMD GPU I should just use the baked in recording solution and ditch OBS? Unfortunately I have a last gen 6900XT and AV1 is not possible, would this change your suggestion? Which software should I use? If it were you which one would you use in my situation? Recording only no streaming. Thanks and keep it coming!!!!
How about performance issue? There any loss in fps while recording using AMD Relive? Now im using 1070Ti with Shadowplay and going for RX 7900XTX Nitro+ but thinking about fps while recording instant replays
There is definitely no recording and streaming tab for me downloaded it from the Amd official site too it’s really annoying my graphics card is an Amd Radeon Rx 6400 if my graphics card isn’t able to work with this software is there any other free video recording software that I could use to record my game clips on all games please help
Any advice when recording through ReLive. I have a 7900 Xt and when recording Siege, the recording is not as smooth as my gameplay running with my FPS capped to my monitor (100hz) i get well beyond the FPS than my monitor and even when capped it stutters.
I've recently bought the 7900xt specifically the sapphire basic one. I've had to return one and get it replaced and it's looking like the second one is going to also have to be replaced. The first one had issues with power and caused frequent stuttering when it goes over 300 watts it drops the frequency down to 0% causing the stutter. Very annoying. The new one just crashes when you start playing any game with the only fix being reinstalling the driver then it'll work fine until you restart the PC then it'll do it again. Is anyone else having issues like this? Am I just this unlucky?
Recently switched from a 6900XT to a 4090, and after all the talk about how good Shadowplay was, I was floored by just how bad it actually is compared to ReLive. And when I opened Nvidia control panel, I did feel like it was 20 years ago again. They make enough to invest in these areas like AMD didn't several years back with their drivers. 4090 hardware great, Shadowplay is abysmal and not worth mentioning, at all. Shocked it is.
its soooo infuriating that shadowplay is in the state that its in. i wish they fixed the active game window detection properly and made it always record what you actually want it to record. it never records games i play on my tv when im hanging out with my friends and it constantly loses my clips on my main monitor and records my firefox tab on my other monitors! i really wish nvidia would be more committed to fixing something they pioneered that revolutionized the youtube recording industry :T
When I switched to AMD GPU, I really like RELIVE's interface. nVidia's one just looks like a basic windows 2000 window. I use AMD chill mostly to lessen the heat coming outta my PC. I didn't think it was mostly for laptops.
Does this allow you to record yourself while recording your screen? I saw the option to enable camera - that's the main thing I want it for to use to upload video feedback for clients.
Hey EposVox. Any idea why are my recording on 6800xt feels jittery and noy smooth? Not true to 60fps as compared to my recording with Nvidia GPU. This is normal? 1440p60fps, 50-90 bitrate. Replayed with VLC and it feels that the recording is below 30 fps.
What about live streaming to Twitch on the current codec? Have they improved upon it to match Nvenc or x264? Or is this something completely ignored hoping for an AV1 future. This is the only thing holding me back from buying an AMD gpu. Relive is great on its own for sure, but OBS still offers things that are beyond for the time being.
@@BudgetGamerz It's difficult to put in few words honestly, just have to use it for a while to understand. The workflow, the featureset, the filters, the controls.. there are lot of things to describe. If you use it for some days dedicatedly and then check out Relive, you would feel it.
@@yellowflash511 it's not an issue of OBS and AV1 on AMD cards, but the AMF encoder being subpar to Nvenc and x264 using H264. None of the streaming platforms on the net support AV1 yet so until that becomes a reality, the current AMF encoder is just lacking.
I built myself a Ryzen 9 7900x paired with a 7900 xt. I've been having issues with recording. It'll record my desktop and anything else, but once I'm in the game (steam games), the default screen is just stuck. You can hear the sounds of the game though. Is there any fix for this? It's a single monitor solution, with IGPU disabled
Does anyone knows if amd relive supports more XLR microphones? Because in shadowplay it stuggles to make signal as mono if interface has no 1 channel option.
Might be only me but I never can use instant reply using. I have it turned on and when I use the hotkey nothing happens. I have to manually launch amd radeon software and then click instant replay. Shadowplay on the other hand, worked really well before I upgraded to the amd card.
I doubt it will use more bits than necessary to encode as close to lossless as the chosen codec will encode. If you set it to max, it's quality limit is what you'll probably get, using less than the bitrate selected.
Hi! Do you know if AMD Relive still captures de gameplays using VFR? That’s the main reason I went with nvidia, since all of my recordings were a mess in Premiere, due to the audio sync issues. ShadowPlay records using CFR, removing that issue and allowing me to edit directly into Premiere.
Shadowplay uses VFR, it just only ends up dropping frames if you lose performance. Years past of RUclips is full of me having to teach people how to lock their VFR shadowplay footage. None of the ReLive footage I captured was VFR, but that doesn’t mean it won’t swap to it like Shadowplay does
@@EposVox Hmm, strange. All I can say is that the videos recorded with RELIve had to be converted again using Handbrake and the ones with Shadowplay didn’t require that step.
does this make a 6750 xt good for streaming? ive been debating between rtx or amd and cant decide which to choose i mostly game, stream and make content but have seen plenty of arguments from either side. I could use my rtx 2060 super as a streaming pc if it had to come down to that but i prefer 1 pc setup so i only need 1 mnk
@@lrft i decided on a amd radeon x 6750xt couldnt find a good brand that i wanted to commit to because of the crypto mining causing prices to be all over the place. I'm not 100% confident in my decision based on googling and reddit. Based on benchmarks though amd kills it with fps and thats what i look more towards based on the games i play but part of me feels like ill be missing lots because of ray trace whats your thoughts?
@@MilkzeNPC yes same i have been doing the same surfing thru internet checking every benchmark and seeing its really good for fps for it price. but then seeing good features as nvidia encoder being better for recording and streaming as well the ray tracing for single player games. but then looking at the 3070 comparison 8gb where rx 6750 xt 12 gb gets me. aswell the lower price then the overpriced rtx. as this is my first actual build. hoping to record videos at high quality like nvidia does will be missing out.
@@lrft well to be honest if youre more on the content creation side and only have 1 pc id probably go for rtx 3060 ti only because nvenc is really good for encoding ive seen test streams etc wasnt really impressed about 6750xt on that end but heard theres like a plugin to help improve the quality. Its a really tough choice because people rag on amd just to rag on them from what i feel like. They make great processors and i only went with 6750 xt cause i wanted something cheaper that performs well, gotta be careful with certain cards tho also cause i heard of whining noise and over heating issues. I bought amd brand off their website hoping it doesnt have those issues :( still worried man lol i think you should be fine though if u want u could wait and ill send u some clips
@@MilkzeNPC yes i would like to see the clips. about coil whine heard it to. need undervolt the gpu. and its in the asus dual model the most irritating from what i read
I recently got a AMD Graphics Card; ASROCK RX550 2G. I also changed my OS to Linux (Devuan). Now I'm quite confused. On windows after I plugged in my graphics card I had an option to use *H.264 & H.265,* and I could use both for 🤔 ...recording. Now that I'm on Linux, and have updated my drivers and checked to see if they're up to date. This is the source of my confusion. When I click on video encoder, both on streaming and recording; I get 5 options to choose from: SVT-AV1 AOM AV1 FFmpeg VAAPI H.264 FFmpeg VAAPI HEVC x264 I've figured out that HEVC is H.265 ...and it doesn't work for recording... maybe it was for streaming only... I honestly don't remember at this points it's been.... almost a Month... and it's just left my brain while I was fixing other things.
idk , i have always been an amd/radeon guy since my last NV was 8800GT , and unless there is some HUGE MAJOR fuckup on amd side , i actually will always use their cards because i just like their ecosystem so much better. like for example i couldnt care less if their GPU encoder was not super good a year ago. i can handle , and mostly i would use CPU encoding over GPU anyways... so yeah. good to see they are setting new milestones here
Can you somehow manually type in the duration for the replay buffer? Or maybe force it through a config change? I currently use Shadowplay's "Instant Replay" to record an Apex match when my friends and I do well, but 20 minutes is not quite long enough to get the full length of an entire match.
Honestly, not much. The cpu load is negligible, and the encoder is an asic, separate from the main gpu. The performance difference comes into play when you're near the power limit for the card, since the asic consumes power to encode, and the cpu consumes power to run the feed.
The only thing that kept me from using AMD ReLive is the lack of bitrate control to it like VBR and CQP(for Recording) because it only uses CBR Control but overall, it can be used for livetreaming as Browser sources can be added for custom widgets, though I might have to spend for a better mic since I'm only using a $16 BM-800 post processed with OBS audio filters 😅 Still, I'm envious that you get to use an RX 7900XT 😫
Thx for the vid. For some reason I had it in my head that av1 was strictly a streaming thing, and my recordings wouldn't benefit. This was pretty much the only thing keeping me from considering an AMD upgrade down the line.
2:17 This... THING is bloated. Give me the ability to cut this bloatware out of drivers. I had to re-install just to basic drivers and install MSI Afterburner/Riva tuner statistics to adjust GPU setting for browsing net and separate profile for Gaming. In Adrenaline I had to set each game separately. Why? Why the hell would I need to know, how long lasted my last session in the last four games? Are you not aware of the amount of time you spend in your games? (BTW Steam pretty much shows this too). Also. That box on the left. Why would I need to know Average FPS in the last game, especially when those same numbers are shown just a little to the right? I monitor my FPS in OSD from Afterburner. Which leads me to: Give me the ability to customize On Screen Monitoring/Display in these drivers and I would not need to install third party SW. Last time i checked (22.12.2) I could not customize anything in the OSD. Why? AMD link. Why would I need that? I am not completely addicted to gaming to play games on my phone with a lag beacause they are rendered on PC some distance away. Adrenaline has ability to stream games to phones etc, while at the same time, these drivers were not capable of checking for updates either on their own or when I forced them to check. (New revision was already online at the time and i had it opened in web browser ready to Download). These "drivers" were driving me nuts. I would love to use AMD ReLive to record some of my gameplay, but all this... this is just too much, unnecessary and I can live without recording some of my gameplay. I have jumped from 2070S to 7900XT back in December. And if it were not for rendering uplift (and the sheer complexity of returning HW directly to the AMD), I would return this GPU just like I returned 3080 12G back in July 2022 ( I gave it three days before I returned it). Why did I return 3080 12G? Because FPS uplift I was looking forward to was not really there. I am gaming at 1440p and 120Hz. In some games 7900XT I pretty much overkill (Crysis 3 Remastered - Can It Run Crysis? at 150+ FPS with raytracing off) while in GhostRecon Wildlands I am lucky to get 110 FPS while on Mid-High settings.
HEVC and AV1 are _terrible_ codecs to chose if you plan on doing some heavy editing. Hardware decoding helps for sure, but they also can only handle so much. H.264 is already not a great choice but by far the best one out of the bunch. Working with one or two layers might be fine, but if you start adding stuff you'll quickly run into playback issues in your NLE of choice. The rule of thumb is, the stronger a format is compressed, the worse it is for editing.
RTX 3000, 4000 and AMD RX 6000/7000 handle AV1 decode just fine. Premiere doesn't really support AV1 yet, but Resolve does and (at least in Studio) it runs like a dream. Also wrong on HEVC, as even in Premiere (which historically just has horrible-performing playback in general) as of like ~2020-2021's updates for GPU decode improvements, HEVC at higher resolutions ends up outperforming ProRes/Cineform for playback, causing multiple production houses I chat with to swap to HEVC workflows over Cineform. "the stronger a format is compressed, the worse it is for editing" There is virtually zero correlation here. Efficiency of compression has literally no impact on decode performance.
@@EposVox that's actually the first time in hearing of HEVC being any good in decoding performance whatsoever but i'm taking your word for it because i haven't really used modern version of premiere. Also i'm not sure how many peope that decide to record and stream with relive will have access to resolve studio, and at least from a software encoding standpoint HEVC is a pain to work with, at least compared to h.264. At least historically speaking the compression to playback speed was absolutley a thing (and probably still is). Intra frame compression performance much better than inter frame compression, and lossless performs even better respectively. Getting the same visual quality for a smaller file size means that there is a trade-off and what you gain in file size, you will lose in computstional requirements. Decompressing something that has been compresser more will almost always take longer than decompressing something that has been compressed less. It's posible that modern hardware decoding throws a wrench into that, but not everyone will have acces to newest hardware and expensive software.
Lossless in H264 and a WIDE variety of AVI-based codecs (lagarith, utvideo, etc.) performs incredibly poorly for decode. Inter/intraframe settings, keyframe intervals, and GOP sizes all affect decode speed (typically) and don't really relate to "how compressed" the footage is. And yes, GPU decoding helps a ton and GPU HEVC decoding has been around on dGPUs and iGPUs for a decade at this point. Using an ancient version of premiere is a horrible window into the world of modern video performance, heh.
@@EposVox That's fair, it's hard to find good data online on decode speed for different codecs. I guess some lossless formats perform poorly and some intra frame compressed files will perform better than others, which is why it's just a general rule of thumb and not universally applicable. And i guess it's a fair question what "more compressed" actually means. Does one compare on a level of similar visual quality, or same bitrate. Neither comparison is really ideal. I don't use a ancient version of premiere lol, it's just been a couple years since i worked with premiere at all. And i know that hardware decoded HEVC has been a thing for a while, but so has hardware decoded AVC, and from my understanding hardware AVC is also faster than hardware HEVC, though again, hard to test. I can't afford the latest and greatest hardware unfortunately, and especially on older devices modern video codecs won't always play nicely, and since the 10 series by nvidia is still amongst the videly used gpu generstions out there, it's safe to say that i'm not alone with that. Anyways, it's always nice to have a chat about these things. I don't often comment under your videos, but whenever i do you're always jumping straight into the discussion, i really respect and appreciate that!
I mean, as an encoder it’s fine. We look down on it because it was DoA due to patent and licensing issues. It was never a good standard from that perspective, which is why it’s basically not used anywhere
idk what amd or nvidia does what i hate about amd driver is the adrenalin being so wonky and crashing and creating issues while on nvidia side, they no longer show gpu usage percentage and what is using it in task manager, and its split into geforce experience and nvidia geforce which is weird af
But is it worth the change tho? I've been planning to upgrade my 1660S but Nvidia offerings are just too expensive for the performance they give, is AMD now enough for OBS + production software?
Id check out the rx 6600 *xt* the difference between the xt and non-xt is the difference between good value and bad value. Id also check out the used market but that is very dependent on where you are and whether the risks are worth it to you.
Got a 6800xt for 400$ and it was a steal imho. Games run smooth, no crashes, no artifacts, no unsupported titles. I've tried stable diffusion AI training and generating and it could generate images super fast. Funnily enough it seems on linux the ROCm library is better (used for translating instructions of these softwares to support AMD cards) than on Win11 since it was 10x faster to generate the same picture lol. I mean the difference between ~3s and ~30s. Since I use linux a lot it is hands down the best supported product, with open source software. On production side AMD obviously lacks without CUDA. All big production softwares are tailored for Nvidia and will take ages to get AMD to the same level since it is a chicken and egg scenario between less AMD user base and less support. Edit: and the best part is that AMD gives way more VRAM for the same price range compared to Nvidia in case you game and encode and so on. AI training guzzles up 16GB VRAM in a split second like holy crap
the whole video was about how much better AMD ReLive is better streaming/recording software than nVidia what where you watching? Anyways around 12:10 you get to see gameplay, bitrate considerations since it gets triple compressed, and encoder recommendations.
Buy the cheapest one of the two, RX 6000 GPU encoding quality is pretty good even if Nvidia is better, sure, yet for me personally, I always prefer more using CPU power, so get an 8 core CPU, Ryzen 5700 these days are running new for less than 200usd, great deal for a single streaming PC. Otherwise, if you have the money, dual PC streaming is the best indeed, for a stream only PC you can get away with a 5500G APU and 8gb ram if you have OBS running and nothing else, also later if you want a bit more power, just get a 2nd hand 1650 super, those now are going down pretty hard on price, that way you can use the Nvenc encoder for streaming, and the CPU power for recording and/or handling more stuff you add to your OBS scene.
yep, i chose neither and upgraded my 3100 to 5600 instead. 👍if it goes well ill probably go for the 6600xt, if not ill get the less powerful but cheaper 2070 for nvenc
off topic, but I love your tshirt 😄where could I get a similar one? love retro / memphis design
The brand is SuperMassive! www.supermassiveshop.com/
I first found them at Meijer lol
AC Slater is selling them out of the back of a van in The Max Parking Lot across from Bayside High.
@@EposVox do you know anymore brands like this?
@@EposVox bro can you please share the Adobe Premier render settings (export settings), i have a rx 6800xt i use AMD Relive to record gameplay and instant replay to record my top plays, i use HEVC and 60Mb/s bitrate, my raw file footage looks crisp and quality(i tried 100Mb/s too) , but when i upload to youtube the quality drop so much.. if you could share the render settings it would really help me a lot in making contents. thank in advance. btw love your Tshirt.
17:15 As someone who has been working in school district IT support since 2011...those hotkeys were the bane of my existence lol. So many teachers would submit tickets frantically requesting help to fix their screen rotation and even if we showed them how to fix it so they don't have any computers "down," they always forgot. But the students....the students never forgot.
I was coming to post this same thing. So many tickets or calls.
Screen rotation hotkeys are new to AMD and are turned off globally by default.
Finally. Some good PR for AMD. Thank you. I've been using relive a lot in the past. The entire Radeon software stack is just better. Not by a little. it's monstrously better.
If Twitch finally gets off their butts and implements AV1 stream encoding I will drop everything I'm doing and go buy a RX 7k series GPU. High quality streaming is my dream and I refuse to overpay for an Nvidia GPU just for Nvenc.
It’s a same too with Discord, they’ve finally implemented AV1… but only for RTX 40 series GPUs so my RX 7900 XTX not being utilized.
@@mxdanger I honestly feel like Nvidia payed discord off for exclusivity there
@@flamingscar5263 Possibly but I still hope it’s just like that because Nvidia more market share so it makes sense to do it for them first and eventually do AMD and Intel.
Lol you can buy an Intel GPU because they have av1 encoding
@@rustable4165 Intel's encoding performance is bad, even on AV1 due to it being their first series.
I recommend waiting for the next generation of Intel cards for when they (_hopefully_) use their problems and feedback to make better cards.
I have a 4090 and 2080 Super in my 2 main gaming PCs, but I used to have a 6600XT Red Devil. I miss the AMD drivers and Relive a lot. I appreciate you explaining Relive because a lot of people don't even realize it exists. I never had any problems occur while using it either. Well done AMD!
I don't with all the crashing I had to deal with and unstablety
Wait a sec…so Relive works for nVidia cards as well?
Nah, I can't use AMD ReLive because I can't set my 3D Avatar aka Vtuber character on ReLive.
So, OBS still usable
@@officalflash5534 Idk what happen. Maybe you get faulty card. Mine works fine as it is. Have minor bug but not deal breaker
@@officalflash5534 I shouldn't jump to conclusions, but I wonder if you're running any kind of overclocks. AMD software and drivers are usually sensitive to such things.
What's funny is how the control panel of NVIDIA goes all the way back to Windows 2000. I still have some screenshots of my W2000 OS with the very same NVIDIA Control Panel we know to this day. Which was around 1999. The control panel is much older than that for sure, since Rivatuner (now known as RTSS) was made because how bad the Control Panel was and that was in 1997.
Haha the Nvidia control panel is why I have stayed away form using Geforce in my main PC
Let's not forget about the slow switch between menus and settings. AMD's control panel is hella fast and has everything in one place, one program, no login required.
@@Azraenore Biggest lie I've ever seen.
@@flintfrommother3gaming I might be lying but it's the truth
@@Azraenore Not talking about the last point, it's just it's not fast.
Didn't know AMD had such a cool software available! Just bought a 7900xtx last week and will definitely chk this software out.
Yeah ive come from nvidia, and this shadowplay alternative was something i was wondering. So keen to use this on my xtx too!
My cousin just got on amd it was cool going to his house and showing him the cool features and oc his GPU for him.
I miss ReLive so much. I love everything else about my RTX 3070, but ShadowPlay is just a pain point for me these days. Most of the time I either doesn't record all of the audio (i.e. it'll record my mic + game but not my friends on Discord) or it records all of my monitors or some of them instead of just the game. Also having to go back and re-encode all of my videos with HEVC is a really pain and takes so much extra time even with scripts.
You’re wrong about Radeon Chill on desktop! I play single-player games and I use Radeon Chill to limit the power my GPU throws away while not benefitting me. I set the minimum FPS to 72 and the maximum to 144 or 143 on my 144 Hz display, and this allows games to never exceed the refresh rate of my monitor, saving power and tearing, and also lets AMD ramp things further down in slow scenes when a higher frame rate isn’t of benefit. It significantly reduces power draw of Radeon GPUs and is, in my eyes, a very valuable feature for keeping my room comfortable.
I've used this for many games I find it useful for poorly optimized games to keep a stable fr
As an NVIDIA user that has stuck by them far too long, I am absolutely SICK of Shadowplay. I am sick of how often the functionality has changed over the years. Some updates have seen it getting stripped down, offering fewer quality options and frequently the service malfunctions and you have to restart it, or restart your entire computer if it doesn't wanna cooperate. I'm just about at that point where I might finally purchase an AMD card again. I don't want NVIDIA to be top dog anymore, because they've gotten lazy and aggressively anti-consumer. EVGA had every right to be sick of them, too.
Shadowplay just stops working randomly for me, then won't start again... so annoying.
I do agree that the control panel for Nvidia and GeForce Experience need a GUI update. They have looked the same since their respective introductions.
The control panel is fine as it is now.
It's fine honestly. Don't change things for the sake of it... Microsoft :^)
@@LetrixAR fine doesn’t mean it couldn’t be better.
It is a perfectly usable product People seem to think that change for change sake is good. Does it do what it needs to do in a clear and concise way? Yes then adding a shiny cost of makeup on top of it just takes more overhead.
Also GeForce experiences ui is modern e ough and does exactly what it needs to do, update drivers, allow for easy game optimizations etc.
@@LetrixAR It really isn't fine, it's overcomplicated and painfully slow, people just don't recognise that because it looks simplistic. It's one of the reasons I abandoned Nvidia.
Always love how low CPU usage Relive has been
Nvidia Control Panel has almost no functions and its UI feels ancient. It's way better in Adrenaline.
Nvidia's inability to update the Nvidia control panel is just stupid at this point and no Geforce Experience is not part of the driver and is an optional spyware.
There's still one huge problem with relive. It still cant record HDR gameplay, its just white screen. I was trying to find out what is the problem and after looking at forums people have been reporting this problem to amd for years and yet its still broken.
Radeon Software is probably the only thing I miss from my former Radeon card. While Nvidia Control Panel UI is very intuitive, it's also very sluggish and I need to install bloatware and create an account (GeForce Experience) in order to access features that are present on a single application on Radeon cards. Also, Radeon overlay shows a lot more information than Nvidia one, like VRAM usage.
Ideally, we would have a complete package like Radeon Software but with Nvidia drivers and encoder.
Could you tell me about performance hit while having instant replay on? I want to buy an amd card and currently I'm using gtx1060 with replay set to last 30s 15Mbps and it doesn't cause any significant fps loss, maybe 2-5%. Is relive the same?
A lot of my friends use shadowplay and basically half of them it has stopped functioning completely
Need to look into both softwares to be honest, Currently just OBS brute force long gaming sessions aha.
Yeah this is what ive been saying ever since switching to AMD. It made me realise how bad and outdated Nvidias software is. Never bothered with shadow play because it was always so unclear to me how to use it. But with AMD software it is so damn easy to use, also it is something i can quickly bring up in an overlay when playing games.
Shadowplay with my 3080 ti has been an absolute nightmare , to the point where I just built a second PC with a 4k60 mk2 and 5950x cpu
But can you FINALLY use instant replay on windowed mode games? Cause thats the one thing that makes shadowplay considerably better than relive. In fact amd has always seemed to pretend that windowed mode gaming doesn't exist. For instance, they still haven't supported freesync in windowed mode games.
Even if Im a OBS user, some things just works better in Relive, like replays. And I had problebms streaming CP2077 with my RX590, trying a lot of different settings, but Relive is just works. Still its too simple for me, but Im glad that its exist. Show my friend how to setup replay buffer so now I could see all these "you wouldnt believe" moments
Ey! Do not diss OBS. Relive is not better or anything. Stop it. It is just AMD that have the advantage of making sure there software solution works even under extreme load. It is a sign that AMD should work more with OBS to make sure it works as good or better with OBS Studio. It is very likely AMD that messed up and the card being pushed hard outstrips the encoders resources to much. Or something bad is happening that they worked around in there Relive software. That is not the right fix. NVIDIA is just as bad on that front.
@@TheDiner50 Nope, I dont diss OBS, so I agree with you that AMD did a good job of optimiztion of their own software. So yes, it would be awesome for AMD to work more with OBS. I mean its already works fine, its more like its a Cyberpunk problem, cause other games are fine.
Shadowplay also works better than OBS. Is not resource heavy at all.
I want to use OBS but I don't want the performance hit.
Shadowplay doesn’t “work better than OBS”, it has less of a performance hit specifically because it doesn’t do any of the stuff OBS does lol. Different tools for different jobs
If you're just streaming for some friends, you can stream to RUclips via HSL and HEVC instead of AVC, using OBS, for vastly better quality.
For Enhanced Filtering at 13:46 the trees looks waaaay less blurrier, any vmaf score comparison? (im lazy for just taking that score i know)
a bit closer of nvidia nvenc each day :) (for AMD users just bump the bitrate AVC 10% and you have the same, or buy a 50$ GTX1050 to work alongside) ill be waiting the next vmaf score encoder showdown video.
-plus GIF recording is godsent for casual gameplay with friends, and ingame replay show is really cool to have (note the hotkey is bug for me, i have to change the hotkey to make it work, very important)
None yet - waiting for it to be doable in FFMPEG. Can’t compare OBS samples
Hated Shadowplay because I just didn't like the stifled choices for what you record and how. AND THEN after having a nice little library for clips and videos, I find that I have 0 audio because it didn't mix very well with my GoXLR mini. I uninstalled immediately
24 Mb/s is loosless enough for 1080p AVC for the first stage and with smart rendering the next stage would be fine. I don't know about higher resolutions, but that what I do on 1080p. I will upgrade for AV1 soon. I wonder what my new settings are going to be 🤔
image sharpening is not on by default not sure what happened there
One of my peers keeps having nonstop issues with shadowplay. I really don't understand what's going on.
Half the time I record anything over 30k bitrate in Shadowplay the footage just comes out all corrupted. It's so annoying.
O_o I’ve never had that happen. Very odd
@@EposVox yeah idk. I got a 5600x and rtx 3080. Cpu/Gpu usage never hits over 80% with my settings, but with shadowplay 35+k bitrate just will never ever record properly, but with obs I can record 100k with zero issues, and with AV1 support coming, I really think my next gpu will be amd, nvidia software is too dated, and too many steps to do what relive can in half the time browsing the UI lol.
The only reason im not using it to record casual bullshit gameplay is the fact that there is no way to make it record your mic in mono, if you're using an audio interface that has inputs in pairs of L/R. I'm not putting 20 second clips inside an editing program just to convert my mic track/file to mono
With the option to save an archive while streaming, does it use the left-side recording settings for that archive, or does it use the streaming settings? It's one thing I love about OBS, being able to stream with ~3500kbps / 720p but record in 30-50mbps / 1080p for later editing. I've thought about using ReLive but haven't yet jumped in to try it out.
I would really love for their whole suite to work on Linux. Especially with the Steam Deck being built entirely on AMD hardware I think it would be the perfect way to add recording/streaming options to it, without needing to fiddle with Desktop mode and getting OBS set up and working in Game mode.
Archive Stream just saves exactly what it streams live
@@EposVox Ah, good to know. Disappointing, but maybe future updates will take the OBS route. Maybe split the streaming encoding out to the CPU, with the recording encoding to the GPU. Or vice versa.
Was about to order a 4080, as I record with shadow.. but man, this is wild, going for a 7900 xtx now :D, thx!
just wish Relive also supported/allowed CQP recordings (at least wirh my 5700XT i don't have the option) and gave us the option to select separate storage devices (or folders) for each media type :/
You could create a script to automagically move files from each type to a different folder.
3:22 And this is why Nvidia has 80% of the market. People some how always have these AMD software problems. Yet I have been using AMD hardware since 2017 and never had Adrenalin crash on me like that. Went from a RX 590 to a 7900 XTX this week. Only driver crash I have had was in lords of the fallen on my RX 590 when testing out stable overclocks.
Great video talking about how AMD is a step above Nvidia. AMD just can't catch a break 98% of the time anymore on social media.
when I had the rx 5700 I used these amd relive stuff and it worked really well for me, going back to nvidia I miss it, shadowplay is buggy af, and like mentioned in the video it looks abandoned, I wish for having multiple lenght of playback videos, fixing to 30 sec or 1 min it's not always what I want everytime
Why did you say super resolution would hurt your performance? I've never noticed even a small difference from using it.
Because it’s running higher than native resolution. Inherently, making games harder to run.
In my amd not showing recording and live option
I would love to use ReLive for desktop/game recording but it always records the notification of when you start recording. It's a real pain to have to edit out so I don't even bother using ReLive. It even records any overlay displaying that a recording is in progress. I wish there was a way to disable that or ignore any onscreen overlays like Nvidia does.
How does 7900 XT / XTX encoder performs compared to RTX 4080? Does it use the same resources that run the game or it has separate processing? I've read somewhere that AMD encoder can "overload" and drop frames if the game is more demanding / uses more resources. I never had that issue on my 1080 Ti so I'm thinking of upgrading between 4080 and 7900 XTX but I cannot find a lot of detailed info on that. Would be nice to find a detailed comparison between 4080 and 7900 encoders.
Has anyone noticed that with the current version of adrenaline 23.4.2 that the RUclips api for streaming doesn’t work? I added RUclips as an account and went to test streaming and it just fails.. no errors.. just a quick blue circle and nothing else. Flipped to twitch and was streaming almost immediately.
Hi @EposVox nice video love it, but I have a question about the relive streaming. Do you lose fps in game while streaming or affect in a way the performance of the gpu? Do you recomand to use relive on a rx 6650xt to stream?
Rx 5700xt user here, an older card with similar performance. But there is a very slight performance hit, nothing major. A 6650xt should be just fine, but you might have to make some adjustments to your settings depending on game and resolution if you're trying to hit a specific fps target.
Radeon Chill is n o t only for Notebooks , i limit the FPS to the Refresh rate of my Monitor = less Heat , less noise , less Power consumption and pobably an longer life for your GPU ... , is it usefull to have 300-400 FPS if your Monitor can only Display 144 FPS or 165 FPS and i know , there are now higher refresh Rate Monitor with 240 Hz and higher but those are expensive and make basically no Sense aside of som e sports fanatics .
Is there a way to use Shadowplay Highlights with a dual PC setup, or the only way is to have shadowplay in your main gaming pc to detect the eliminations and stuff?
You could *theoretically* use it with a full screen capture card preview and desktop capture, but you’d be missing sound and it wouldn’t be reliable - and if you’re already using the capture card might as well use OBS
@@EposVox Thx for the fast reply, yeah I'm already using OBS, In my streaming PC. I was just wondering if I could also use Shadowplay Highlights together, to save time auto cropping highlights and stuff
Oh the Highlights feature absolutely has to be on the gaming PC
12:30 No 10bit recording options? No 444 chroma recording options?
If you want hardcore settings, you use OBS. Different tools for different jobs
Is someone streaming and gaming from an RX 7900 XTX? Any issues. Is the quality the same as Nvidia now? Putting a single PC streaming/gaming rig together and don't want risking getting burned on and, as it happened once before to me already. Much appreciated
So are you saying that if I own an AMD GPU I should just use the baked in recording solution and ditch OBS? Unfortunately I have a last gen 6900XT and AV1 is not possible, would this change your suggestion? Which software should I use? If it were you which one would you use in my situation? Recording only no streaming. Thanks and keep it coming!!!!
Does anyone know if AMD ReLive automatically makes a folder in the video tab for each game and saves the clips accordingly like Shadow Play does?
How about performance issue? There any loss in fps while recording using AMD Relive? Now im using 1070Ti with Shadowplay and going for RX 7900XTX Nitro+ but thinking about fps while recording instant replays
If you have HDR enabled the software doesn't tone map. 😔
Neither does Shadowplay
@@EposVox Yeah. That's why I stick with obs or I would use amd relive.
There is definitely no recording and streaming tab for me downloaded it from the Amd official site too it’s really annoying my graphics card is an Amd Radeon Rx 6400 if my graphics card isn’t able to work with this software is there any other free video recording software that I could use to record my game clips on all games please help
Any advice when recording through ReLive.
I have a 7900 Xt and when recording Siege, the recording is not as smooth as my gameplay running with my FPS capped to my monitor (100hz) i get well beyond the FPS than my monitor and even when capped it stutters.
I've recently bought the 7900xt specifically the sapphire basic one.
I've had to return one and get it replaced and it's looking like the second one is going to also have to be replaced.
The first one had issues with power and caused frequent stuttering when it goes over 300 watts it drops the frequency down to 0% causing the stutter. Very annoying.
The new one just crashes when you start playing any game with the only fix being reinstalling the driver then it'll work fine until you restart the PC then it'll do it again.
Is anyone else having issues like this?
Am I just this unlucky?
Recently switched from a 6900XT to a 4090, and after all the talk about how good Shadowplay was, I was floored by just how bad it actually is compared to ReLive.
And when I opened Nvidia control panel, I did feel like it was 20 years ago again.
They make enough to invest in these areas like AMD didn't several years back with their drivers.
4090 hardware great, Shadowplay is abysmal and not worth mentioning, at all. Shocked it is.
Honestly, I wouldn't have bought a 4090 unless ur doing 4k ultra on everything or 8k with dlss (gaming side)
@@Wyn3e I do run 4K, wanted AV1 encoding and liquid cooled. :)
@Inacurate liquid cooling is available on 6900 xt, but yh AV1 is better quality on the 7900 xt and xtx, but 4k gaming performance is better 4090
Hey, I got 6600xt and I downloaded AV1 encoder. But it doesnt show up in the software. Google says that 6600 xt should have it but I dont
av1 is only for 7000 gpus
"Eyefinity if you somehow still use that" i feel attacked i like Eyefinity for games it is nice having that wide FOV
My AMD ReLive had always been working like shit but now it doesn't work at all. What a progress from AMD
Do you think we'll see AV1 support for 6000 series cards in OBS?
No. It can decode AV1, those cards do not have encode hardware for AV1.
Slightly offtopic, but is it possible to use shadowplay with studio drivers? I've tried to google but nothing is showing up
Yes, nothing changes when you use them
its soooo infuriating that shadowplay is in the state that its in. i wish they fixed the active game window detection properly and made it always record what you actually want it to record. it never records games i play on my tv when im hanging out with my friends and it constantly loses my clips on my main monitor and records my firefox tab on my other monitors! i really wish nvidia would be more committed to fixing something they pioneered that revolutionized the youtube recording industry :T
Can i use Amd Adrenaline software instead using Nvidia Gpu??? My current Cpu & Gpu now is Ryzen 3 1200 & GT1030 (for record games)
No
@@EposVox Oh, sad to hear that cause I see Ryzen Software, I dont know whats is, cause my cpu not a Ryzen anymore :(
When I switched to AMD GPU, I really like RELIVE's interface. nVidia's one just looks like a basic windows 2000 window. I use AMD chill mostly to lessen the heat coming outta my PC. I didn't think it was mostly for laptops.
It's for anyone that wants to use it. It helps with your monthly power bill as well (energy prices are crazy right now in some parts of the world)
Does this allow you to record yourself while recording your screen? I saw the option to enable camera - that's the main thing I want it for to use to upload video feedback for clients.
Good stuff - but say: are you adding artificial noise to the image to counter YTs compression?
It shouldn't be necessary with higher resolution + frame rate videos, since they use get the better encoding.
Hey EposVox. Any idea why are my recording on 6800xt feels jittery and noy smooth? Not true to 60fps as compared to my recording with Nvidia GPU. This is normal? 1440p60fps, 50-90 bitrate. Replayed with VLC and it feels that the recording is below 30 fps.
1080 p 60 fps why is the image pixelated while moving, I tried to use amf encoder but nothing changed?
What about live streaming to Twitch on the current codec? Have they improved upon it to match Nvenc or x264? Or is this something completely ignored hoping for an AV1 future. This is the only thing holding me back from buying an AMD gpu. Relive is great on its own for sure, but OBS still offers things that are beyond for the time being.
What is the advantage for using OBS?
@@BudgetGamerz It's difficult to put in few words honestly, just have to use it for a while to understand. The workflow, the featureset, the filters, the controls.. there are lot of things to describe. If you use it for some days dedicatedly and then check out Relive, you would feel it.
@@krieez1936 ok
Obs has released a beta driver which supports av1 on AMD cards. AMD and obs partnered up with the RDNA3 launch
@@yellowflash511 it's not an issue of OBS and AV1 on AMD cards, but the AMF encoder being subpar to Nvenc and x264 using H264. None of the streaming platforms on the net support AV1 yet so until that becomes a reality, the current AMF encoder is just lacking.
I wonder, what's the main diference between obs and amd's recorder software.
my relive not recording anything at all, can u help?
I built myself a Ryzen 9 7900x paired with a 7900 xt. I've been having issues with recording. It'll record my desktop and anything else, but once I'm in the game (steam games), the default screen is just stuck. You can hear the sounds of the game though. Is there any fix for this? It's a single monitor solution, with IGPU disabled
Does anyone knows if amd relive supports more XLR microphones? Because in shadowplay it stuggles to make signal as mono if interface has no 1 channel option.
Might be only me but I never can use instant reply using. I have it turned on and when I use the hotkey nothing happens. I have to manually launch amd radeon software and then click instant replay. Shadowplay on the other hand, worked really well before I upgraded to the amd card.
I doubt it will use more bits than necessary to encode as close to lossless as the chosen codec will encode. If you set it to max, it's quality limit is what you'll probably get, using less than the bitrate selected.
It’s CBR targeting. So yes, it will
Hi! Do you know if AMD Relive still captures de gameplays using VFR? That’s the main reason I went with nvidia, since all of my recordings were a mess in Premiere, due to the audio sync issues.
ShadowPlay records using CFR, removing that issue and allowing me to edit directly into Premiere.
Shadowplay uses VFR, it just only ends up dropping frames if you lose performance. Years past of RUclips is full of me having to teach people how to lock their VFR shadowplay footage.
None of the ReLive footage I captured was VFR, but that doesn’t mean it won’t swap to it like Shadowplay does
@@EposVox Hmm, strange. All I can say is that the videos recorded with RELIve had to be converted again using Handbrake and the ones with Shadowplay didn’t require that step.
does this make a 6750 xt good for streaming? ive been debating between rtx or amd and cant decide which to choose i mostly game, stream and make content but have seen plenty of arguments from either side. I could use my rtx 2060 super as a streaming pc if it had to come down to that but i prefer 1 pc setup so i only need 1 mnk
have you decide yet?.
@@lrft i decided on a amd radeon x 6750xt couldnt find a good brand that i wanted to commit to because of the crypto mining causing prices to be all over the place. I'm not 100% confident in my decision based on googling and reddit. Based on benchmarks though amd kills it with fps and thats what i look more towards based on the games i play but part of me feels like ill be missing lots because of ray trace whats your thoughts?
@@MilkzeNPC yes same i have been doing the same surfing thru internet checking every benchmark and seeing its really good for fps for it price. but then seeing good features as nvidia encoder being better for recording and streaming as well the ray tracing for single player games. but then looking at the 3070 comparison 8gb where rx 6750 xt 12 gb gets me. aswell the lower price then the overpriced rtx. as this is my first actual build. hoping to record videos at high quality like nvidia does will be missing out.
@@lrft well to be honest if youre more on the content creation side and only have 1 pc id probably go for rtx 3060 ti only because nvenc is really good for encoding ive seen test streams etc wasnt really impressed about 6750xt on that end but heard theres like a plugin to help improve the quality. Its a really tough choice because people rag on amd just to rag on them from what i feel like. They make great processors and i only went with 6750 xt cause i wanted something cheaper that performs well, gotta be careful with certain cards tho also cause i heard of whining noise and over heating issues. I bought amd brand off their website hoping it doesnt have those issues :( still worried man lol i think you should be fine though if u want u could wait and ill send u some clips
@@MilkzeNPC yes i would like to see the clips. about coil whine heard it to. need undervolt the gpu. and its in the asus dual model the most irritating from what i read
I recently got a AMD Graphics Card; ASROCK RX550 2G.
I also changed my OS to Linux (Devuan).
Now I'm quite confused. On windows after I plugged in my graphics card I had an option to use *H.264 & H.265,* and I could use both for 🤔 ...recording.
Now that I'm on Linux, and have updated my drivers and checked to see if they're up to date.
This is the source of my confusion.
When I click on video encoder, both on streaming and recording; I get 5 options to choose from:
SVT-AV1
AOM AV1
FFmpeg VAAPI H.264
FFmpeg VAAPI HEVC
x264
I've figured out that HEVC is H.265 ...and it doesn't work for recording... maybe it was for streaming only... I honestly don't remember at this points it's been.... almost a Month... and it's just left my brain while I was fixing other things.
just get obs man
EposVox, this program will be able to record the game in HDR ?
The reason Nvidia does not care because OBS has almost all the features anyone want and probably don't want to waste recourse in this category.
That's just an excuse my dude
idk , i have always been an amd/radeon guy since my last NV was 8800GT , and unless there is some HUGE MAJOR fuckup on amd side , i actually will always use their cards because i just like their ecosystem so much better. like for example i couldnt care less if their GPU encoder was not super good a year ago. i can handle , and mostly i would use CPU encoding over GPU anyways...
so yeah. good to see they are setting new milestones here
Bro....how is rx 7900xtx encoder for 1440p 0r 4k live streaming?..... Please test livestreaming quality
makes me wonder if intel arc has something like this
Can you somehow manually type in the duration for the replay buffer? Or maybe force it through a config change?
I currently use Shadowplay's "Instant Replay" to record an Apex match when my friends and I do well, but 20 minutes is not quite long enough to get the full length of an entire match.
Yes you can type in a number
What is that amd software that is being used?
how much fps do we lose in games on medium-level cards like rx 6600 and rtx 3060 if we turn on streaming using these video cards?
Honestly, not much. The cpu load is negligible, and the encoder is an asic, separate from the main gpu. The performance difference comes into play when you're near the power limit for the card, since the asic consumes power to encode, and the cpu consumes power to run the feed.
@@Bunta1987qwerty thank you))
The only thing that kept me from using AMD ReLive is the lack of bitrate control to it like VBR and CQP(for Recording) because it only uses CBR Control but overall, it can be used for livetreaming as Browser sources can be added for custom widgets, though I might have to spend for a better mic since I'm only using a $16 BM-800 post processed with OBS audio filters 😅
Still, I'm envious that you get to use an RX 7900XT 😫
Looks like I was mistaken and it does use VBR instead of CBR
Wait...
For real? And here I thought it was using CBR by default as well 👀
Thx for the vid. For some reason I had it in my head that av1 was strictly a streaming thing, and my recordings wouldn't benefit. This was pretty much the only thing keeping me from considering an AMD upgrade down the line.
Anyone know is the RX 6650 XT is good or bad at recording screen? I want to make video tutorial but I am not sure about the card.
It records just fine.
2:17 This... THING is bloated. Give me the ability to cut this bloatware out of drivers. I had to re-install just to basic drivers and install MSI Afterburner/Riva tuner statistics to adjust GPU setting for browsing net and separate profile for Gaming. In Adrenaline I had to set each game separately. Why?
Why the hell would I need to know, how long lasted my last session in the last four games? Are you not aware of the amount of time you spend in your games? (BTW Steam pretty much shows this too).
Also. That box on the left. Why would I need to know Average FPS in the last game, especially when those same numbers are shown just a little to the right? I monitor my FPS in OSD from Afterburner. Which leads me to: Give me the ability to customize On Screen Monitoring/Display in these drivers and I would not need to install third party SW. Last time i checked (22.12.2) I could not customize anything in the OSD. Why?
AMD link. Why would I need that? I am not completely addicted to gaming to play games on my phone with a lag beacause they are rendered on PC some distance away. Adrenaline has ability to stream games to phones etc, while at the same time, these drivers were not capable of checking for updates either on their own or when I forced them to check. (New revision was already online at the time and i had it opened in web browser ready to Download).
These "drivers" were driving me nuts.
I would love to use AMD ReLive to record some of my gameplay, but all this... this is just too much, unnecessary and I can live without recording some of my gameplay.
I have jumped from 2070S to 7900XT back in December. And if it were not for rendering uplift (and the sheer complexity of returning HW directly to the AMD), I would return this GPU just like I returned 3080 12G back in July 2022 ( I gave it three days before I returned it). Why did I return 3080 12G? Because FPS uplift I was looking forward to was not really there. I am gaming at 1440p and 120Hz. In some games 7900XT I pretty much overkill (Crysis 3 Remastered - Can It Run Crysis? at 150+ FPS with raytracing off) while in GhostRecon Wildlands I am lucky to get 110 FPS while on Mid-High settings.
Yikes dawg.
HEVC and AV1 are _terrible_ codecs to chose if you plan on doing some heavy editing. Hardware decoding helps for sure, but they also can only handle so much. H.264 is already not a great choice but by far the best one out of the bunch. Working with one or two layers might be fine, but if you start adding stuff you'll quickly run into playback issues in your NLE of choice. The rule of thumb is, the stronger a format is compressed, the worse it is for editing.
RTX 3000, 4000 and AMD RX 6000/7000 handle AV1 decode just fine. Premiere doesn't really support AV1 yet, but Resolve does and (at least in Studio) it runs like a dream.
Also wrong on HEVC, as even in Premiere (which historically just has horrible-performing playback in general) as of like ~2020-2021's updates for GPU decode improvements, HEVC at higher resolutions ends up outperforming ProRes/Cineform for playback, causing multiple production houses I chat with to swap to HEVC workflows over Cineform.
"the stronger a format is compressed, the worse it is for editing" There is virtually zero correlation here. Efficiency of compression has literally no impact on decode performance.
@@EposVox that's actually the first time in hearing of HEVC being any good in decoding performance whatsoever but i'm taking your word for it because i haven't really used modern version of premiere. Also i'm not sure how many peope that decide to record and stream with relive will have access to resolve studio, and at least from a software encoding standpoint HEVC is a pain to work with, at least compared to h.264.
At least historically speaking the compression to playback speed was absolutley a thing (and probably still is). Intra frame compression performance much better than inter frame compression, and lossless performs even better respectively. Getting the same visual quality for a smaller file size means that there is a trade-off and what you gain in file size, you will lose in computstional requirements. Decompressing something that has been compresser more will almost always take longer than decompressing something that has been compressed less. It's posible that modern hardware decoding throws a wrench into that, but not everyone will have acces to newest hardware and expensive software.
Lossless in H264 and a WIDE variety of AVI-based codecs (lagarith, utvideo, etc.) performs incredibly poorly for decode. Inter/intraframe settings, keyframe intervals, and GOP sizes all affect decode speed (typically) and don't really relate to "how compressed" the footage is.
And yes, GPU decoding helps a ton and GPU HEVC decoding has been around on dGPUs and iGPUs for a decade at this point.
Using an ancient version of premiere is a horrible window into the world of modern video performance, heh.
@@EposVox That's fair, it's hard to find good data online on decode speed for different codecs. I guess some lossless formats perform poorly and some intra frame compressed files will perform better than others, which is why it's just a general rule of thumb and not universally applicable.
And i guess it's a fair question what "more compressed" actually means. Does one compare on a level of similar visual quality, or same bitrate. Neither comparison is really ideal.
I don't use a ancient version of premiere lol, it's just been a couple years since i worked with premiere at all. And i know that hardware decoded HEVC has been a thing for a while, but so has hardware decoded AVC, and from my understanding hardware AVC is also faster than hardware HEVC, though again, hard to test. I can't afford the latest and greatest hardware unfortunately, and especially on older devices modern video codecs won't always play nicely, and since the 10 series by nvidia is still amongst the videly used gpu generstions out there, it's safe to say that i'm not alone with that.
Anyways, it's always nice to have a chat about these things. I don't often comment under your videos, but whenever i do you're always jumping straight into the discussion, i really respect and appreciate that!
All I want for shadowplay is to be able to record 4k in 120 fps (it's limited to 60) with AV1. That's all they need.
The way we look down up on HEVC nowadays given it used to be a great encoding standard xD
I mean, as an encoder it’s fine. We look down on it because it was DoA due to patent and licensing issues. It was never a good standard from that perspective, which is why it’s basically not used anywhere
My does work I got an rx 7800 xt asus and it won’t go live 😢
idk what amd or nvidia does
what i hate about amd driver is the adrenalin being so wonky and crashing and creating issues
while on nvidia side, they no longer show gpu usage percentage and what is using it in task manager, and its split into geforce experience and nvidia geforce which is weird af
It’s nice, but I just install the base driver, I don’t need the control panel except for Saturation that I can live without it.
GeForce Experience sucks so bad man. It's embarrassing
Does it work for Nvidia cards? Where is the exact link for downloading this app?
No, the AMD driver software does not work for Nvidia cards
Thank you I'll have to go back to BS then as shadowplay stopped working@@EposVox
How!? I switched from 7900 xt to a 4090 and from a 5800x3d to 13900k. 7950x3d is at the top but where iive, it's $200 more than my 13900k.
And what dont like with adrenalin is it always resets my oc profile and restores to default
@raynathanielcaparas8064 ur first mistake was buying 4090 if ur gaming anything lower than 4k ultra everything or 8k with dlss if u then it's fine
My ONLY complaint with shadowplay is that my discord streams lag so badly with it on
So could I run this on my R9 7900 GPU cores while playing on a 4080?
But is it worth the change tho? I've been planning to upgrade my 1660S but Nvidia offerings are just too expensive for the performance they give, is AMD now enough for OBS + production software?
Id check out the rx 6600 *xt* the difference between the xt and non-xt is the difference between good value and bad value. Id also check out the used market but that is very dependent on where you are and whether the risks are worth it to you.
OBS has added support for encoding with AV1 on RX 7000, if this is your concern.
Got a 6800xt for 400$ and it was a steal imho. Games run smooth, no crashes, no artifacts, no unsupported titles. I've tried stable diffusion AI training and generating and it could generate images super fast. Funnily enough it seems on linux the ROCm library is better (used for translating instructions of these softwares to support AMD cards) than on Win11 since it was 10x faster to generate the same picture lol. I mean the difference between ~3s and ~30s.
Since I use linux a lot it is hands down the best supported product, with open source software.
On production side AMD obviously lacks without CUDA. All big production softwares are tailored for Nvidia and will take ages to get AMD to the same level since it is a chicken and egg scenario between less AMD user base and less support.
Edit: and the best part is that AMD gives way more VRAM for the same price range compared to Nvidia in case you game and encode and so on. AI training guzzles up 16GB VRAM in a split second like holy crap
gonna buy a gpu for streaming, should i get the 6600xt or 2070. i know the 6600xt has better game fps but what about streaming performance?
the whole video was about how much better AMD ReLive is better streaming/recording software than nVidia what where you watching? Anyways around 12:10 you get to see gameplay, bitrate considerations since it gets triple compressed, and encoder recommendations.
Buy the cheapest one of the two, RX 6000 GPU encoding quality is pretty good even if Nvidia is better, sure, yet for me personally, I always prefer more using CPU power, so get an 8 core CPU, Ryzen 5700 these days are running new for less than 200usd, great deal for a single streaming PC.
Otherwise, if you have the money, dual PC streaming is the best indeed, for a stream only PC you can get away with a 5500G APU and 8gb ram if you have OBS running and nothing else, also later if you want a bit more power, just get a 2nd hand 1650 super, those now are going down pretty hard on price, that way you can use the Nvenc encoder for streaming, and the CPU power for recording and/or handling more stuff you add to your OBS scene.
yep, i chose neither and upgraded my 3100 to 5600 instead. 👍if it goes well ill probably go for the 6600xt, if not ill get the less powerful but cheaper 2070 for nvenc
@@apollo_en nvenc ? You may want AV1 encoding better which AMD is already offering in ReLive.