Channel Islands "Rocket Wide" Surfboard Review by Noel Salas EP. 56
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In this episode I review the “Rocket Wide” which is the latest edition of small wave Grovelers in the CI line up of surfboards.
I ordered two stock 5’5” x 18 ¾ x 2 5/16 Liters 25.8 in the new CI Spine-Tek construction… one board with Futures Fin boxes and the other has FCSII. I test both of these boards in perfect 1-2’ and 3-4’ surf to find the range that best suits this model.
I found the Rocket Wide to be very fast, responsive, and most of all it has good flow in transition from turn to turn. I can honestly say that this board suits my style of surfing best in 1-3’ surf.
I highly recommend this board for small waves I think it suits all level of surfers.
The Rocket Wide is not only a favorite of Surf n’ Shows for 2018… it’s also my top pick for best Groveler for 2018 in 1-3’ surf.
These reviews are superb. Some of the most informative, intelligent surf content on the internet. Keep it up!
Sitting here with my favourite drink (fresh coconut) on a beach in Indo enjoying the episode and looking forward to getting this board now! Thanks Noel!
@@johnom23 Yewww!! Enjoy!!
Great job as always Noel. You are hands down the best board coach on the web. Its easy to tell how much thought and effort you put into creating these videos. If anyone should be able to do this for a career, you're the guy.
Gary Conley That would be the dream job for my brother and I.. cheers for the kind words.
The way you bring all this information across really helps me to understand more and more how surfboards work. Everything gets explained so simpel so it really helps to gain knowledge. I learn a lot with every video that I watch. Thank you Noel, I really appreciate that!
I personally think it would be rad to have you as a Wildcard on the next Trestles event. You'd rip out there and it'd be a nice change from the typical wildcards that usually get called into that event.
Would be interesting to see which board he will ride then.
Great idea kinjuk15.. I agree it would be great to see!
Got this board and I LOVE IT!!! thanks for the great review !!!
Salas super clear and skilled on comments. Excellent review
Such a fun board! Based on my experience, it gives you more speed and float without sacrificing maneuverability
Do you think it handles chop?
Just got one of these guys yesterday, I took it out the first day with the black sticks as a thruster in weak 2 to 3 foot surf. The fins and board kept wanting to jump out of the water which was great in weak mushy close outs. Today, I did the 2 plus one setup (kaipas with a nubster). The board was super fun and playful but when I took it out in punchy surf it was quick and responsive in the critical parts of the wave with the spine tek. My buddy let me borrow his in the PU, which I felt handled the top end of the wave spectrum (handling better than the spine tek in bigger surf). So all in all, a super fun summer board that seems to perform better in better surf with the single to double set up. Lastly, after all boards that I field test in the water I always ask myself the same question at the end My session “Do I have aspirations to surf this board in better surf”? You know what I’ve been meaning to ask you, wouldn’t it be sick to review carver Boards that feel like surf when the waves are subpar? Just a thought like things to better your surf when the waves suck
Miguel Marquina Good stuff bro and yes shredding a Carver is so fun and I think it can help your surfing technique too. Cheers bro
Ripping like always. Perfect summer groveler! Great review Noel! Great feedback on the foot positioning when going from super short summer boards to our normal everyday drivers. So true. Happy Friday my man! My Futures Tech 1's are on the way.
SoCal Boys Stiked you will love those RTM Tech 1 Funs in your new Rocket Wide and Fever. Oh yea they will go mental in your HG too!!!
For sure. Grabbed the last pair off of Amazon? Keep shralping my man.
For all those wondering, just hear Noel's words about it being the best 1-3 ft groveler, I would agree. Just got this board in Spine-Tek which is ridiculously good. I surfed it twice so far in 2-4 ft waves at (Beacons in SD) that are kind of rolly with steep inside sections. It is crazy fun to surf because it generates an insane amount of speed through all of the flat spots. Speed is the key to everything we do as surfers and this board has it in spades. I was smiling like crazy at how great it is. I had the CI AM2's in it and they are a lethal combo together. I would also say go Spine-Tek if you've never surfed it because of the way that tech launches you out of rebounds and turns also enhances the speed characteristics of the board. I have a Holy Grail, CI Fever, and now this Rocket Wide and those are pretty much the best 3 boards I have ever surfed. Times are great for us all and with Noel's stellar reviews, it's a win-win for all. For all the SoCal friends, get ready, some nice SW is filling in and let the fun begin. :)
SoCal Boys Epic comments... so stoked you found some sick sleds!!! You got 3 nuggets for sure!!! Cheers
Yes I did my friend...many thanks and keep up the amazing work. Yew!
Hey dude thanks for the informative comment! I'm seriously thinking about getting a rocketwide... is there any reason you'd choose to ride your holygrail or Fever in 1-3ft surf over the rocketwide?
No worries my pleasure. Honestly, all 3 of those boards are so good I can have fun on any of them. My Fever is a PU, but it still goes great in even smaller stuff. I rode the Grail today in 2-4 foot surf, but just as easily could have taken the RW. The RW is so much fun, I think you should definitely get one. I've only ridden it twice, but is a magical board. I will most likely surf the Fever 3 foot plus when the waves have some punch. All 3 of those boards are so much fun, you could just about pull any of them off the rack and surf them in 1-4 foot surf and have an amazing time. I am going to take the RW out this Friday in some smaller stuff, but I was quite surprised at how well it went in some solid four footers. I really feel like I have dream quiver now. I love all 3 of those boards equally. I think that is the goal. If you get a RW, you will not regret it. Good luck and post back how it goes if you get one.
Thanks for the quick reply legend! Yeah i'm honestly tossing up between RW and a podmod... I'm pretty much the same height and weight as noel so its sick seeing him in action and although he says he likes the RW best in my opinion he looks better on the pod mod! You ever ridden a pod?
Great review, the best part is wave analysis at the end, that's really interesting. cheers Noel, you are the best.
Cheers!!!
Sick looking board!! 🔥
Noel, thanks for another 10/10 review. You can really see the passion in your eyes when you talk about surfing, love it. And you absolutely destroyed these little nuggets YEEW 🤙
Nimrod Iny Yewww... Cheers
great review. i like that you cover a lot with fins how they surf , keeps it fresh ever time a watch a review of you with a new board. It feels that i learn something new every time :)
roland ijssel Epic... so good to hear. Cheers
As always very good and professional review!
I’m myself having hard time to choose between the rocket wide and the lost California twin... I’m from Israel and most of the time the waves are week and between 1-4 foot... thanks for the help... I’m now surfing with the lost beanbag
CA Twin paddles better and carries way more speed in mushy waves.
you are really good at your job here Noel and only getting better. Awesome!
Brian Newport Cheers
What an enjoyable show, informative and ripping.
you were ripping so hard on this thing I had to get one, went for stock 5'10" Spine Tek construction. Cheers
Jon Salvador Yewwww! Let me know how it goes for you!
You reviews get better every time! Great work!
Gordon Flash Cheers
G’day Noel got my rocket wide and o my god it’s a rocket 🚀 alright soon as you take off it just flys down the line . So for loving the board .
Gary Clutton Yewww!! Stoked you found a Rocket!!!
That board is so aesthetically pleasing. I would love to demo one. It looks like the perfect hybrid fish.
Flashback to what I rode back in the 80s!!!!
Ducati Drew I wish I had one of these in the 90’s when I was competing....
Surf n Show Reviews Cheers brother! I am land locked in Mexico City working and live off your videos...waiting to come back to Cali!!!!
Noel you have really got me thinking about the fin setups on this board.late last year I bought a 5,8 in spinetek(30.3 litres) and I had originally borrowed the polyurethane 5,8 as a demo before I made the purchase.right away the spinetek felt faster and more responsive but had less bite and hold than the PU and at first I was thinking I should have got the 5,7 in spinetek but then I tried these 2 side fins that were on my longboard with the blue almerrickfin(large)(fcs1)in centre and think I've gotten back the hold I was after.(the 2 side fins were considerably larger than the standard largethruster fins but smaller than a twin.and now I'm thinking because this is such a loose board anyway,you have the 2+1 setup.if you could get a 3rd fin the same size as the twins it may really increase the drive and power off the turns.seems like a lot of fin in the water but I don't think many people have tried it.maybe in 2 ft plus surf.worth a try?
You usually have different constructions on deck but I feel ya on the spine T it was amazing. I took this board out on mushy steep waves and it was super fast, especially on the lower end of the wave spectrum. I could feel the spring right away and the swing weight was on point, luckily the demo truck came to Clairemont Surf Shop in my dims so I had to jump on it!!!!!!!!
Epic.... stoked you got to DEMO one and thanks for posting. It helps our community.
Ripping as usual Noel, keep the sick reviews coming - best surfboard reviewer on the web ✌
Hey Noel, I’ve noticed you’ve said the squash tail RW has improved on the swallow tail model.
How would you compare the Squash RW with the Neckbeard 2? Would the NB2 still be your go to board in regard to small wave performance?
Top notch review! Love the part about the fins, covering it all.
Felix Lux Stoked you liked the review!!!
You had good speed with a thruster, imagine with a quad you'd be transported back in time lol.
What a great review!
Decisions to make. I have a Puddle Fish in which I've had so much fun in but I'm starting to feel the board become to big for me. My surfing has improved I can feel the extra volume of the Puddle Fish get in the way in terms of its volume compared to my weight.
The rocket wide and the Mod Pod are on my radar both looked great under your feet. The Mod Pod looked better in the bigger surf though. Keep up the awesome reviews, oh and those prototype fins looked great with lots of speed and drive.
Stoked you liked the review. Let me know what Groveler you go with and how it goes for you. Cheers
Good review Noel! Looks super fun!
Great review as usual Noel. How would compare the RW to the Sampler? I absolutely love the Sampler, and also have a Pod Mod. Does the RW fit between those two, or would it take the same spot in my quiver as the Sampler? Cheers!
Robert marks I like your choices so far... the Sampler and PM were favorites of mine. The RW fits better in the pocket compared to the Sampler and pocket surfs better compared to the PM. The RW is really quick like the Sampler but the PM out paddles them both. All 3 boards are sick but if I had to choose 1 for surf in 1-3’ range I would go RW in Spine-Tek. It does it all in small surf..... cheers
The board is one of my favorite boards to surf. I get excited when the waves are small because of the Rocket Wide in the Spine Tex. The CI website says the board is good up to head high? I wonder why it got sticky for you so quickly. I’ve surfed this board up to head high and didn’t feel the sticking. I suppose I have a lot more rail line @ 5’ 11”. Out of all the boards that you have tested, which board feels similar to the Rocket Wide in bigger/ better waves?
Absolutely love these reviews.
Hey Noel great show keep it up. My buddy just bought the Rocket Wide but in PU. Do you think when the waves reach 3-5 feet that the PU would actually feel better than the EPS?? You did mention that the EPS didnt feel as sharp in the 3-4 feet.
I don't think the PU will matter when the surf gets bigger... I think it's the board design. It will go in 4' surf but that's not the ideal wave size for this model. I like EPS in 1-4' surf better compared to PU but it's a preference. Cheers!!
Thanks for all the great videos.
Volume question:
I’m in good shape, experienced, and I surf 6 days a week on Oahu (North and South).
I like extra foam because I’m 52 years old and 180 pounds.
Also, of course, Hawaii has long paddles, strong trade winds, currents, skilled crowds, and tough waves to catch in general.
In overhead waves I ride a CI “Happy” at 33L. Feels maybe a touch small, but it’s fun to push myself.
My tiny wave groveler is 39L and works great.
I plan to surf the Rocket Wide in small to average surf (when the waves are too good for a 39L groveler but not good enough for the Happy).
Unfortunately, I have mediocre skills, especially when it comes to building speed and approaching the lip vertically. I’m not sure if the extra volume, or not enough volume for my skill set, is making that worse?
I’m trying to choose between 34.5 liters and 37 liters. One is closer to the groveler and one is closer to the Happy.
What does your intuition tell you about the correct size for me?
Thanks!
Tod Marcus EA Go 37L. Catch more waves and have more fun
Great review Noel.
How does the rocket wide compare to Chilli Bv2
The outline seems similiar
And which of the boards do you prefer
Thank you
@@guy-jayb3909 The RW has a sharper outline. The BV2 has a wider nose and tail. The BV2 is faster down the line. The RW offers more performance in the pocket.
Hi Noel,
Getting the 6’0 squash tail as a mushy 1-3ft groveller and I’d love to give a 2+1 setup a go to give more speed in the smaller, weak stuff however I’m not sure if it will work with the squash tail compared to the swallow? Also what would be your 2+1 recommendation for futures? Sick review as always🤙🏽
I like the Al Merrick Twins + Trailer for small wave performance boards. They will go good in the RE Squash tail too. Another 2+ Trailer in futures that’s good is the T1.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thanks a lot for the reply and the advice keep up the good work Noel 🤙🏽
your preferred dims are similar to mine. Funny bc we are dif body types. keep it up!
Sorry, back again. I'm on the verge of buying a Gremlin but was curious how you felt it compared to the Rocket Wide and the Sampler. I've ridden both of these boards: Rocket Wide seemed to hang up/push back when dropping in (relative to my style), not an issue with Sampler and great range, just lacks tail rocker so does not go vertical well, flat/skatey feel. Do like better than the Rocket Wide. So how would you compare the Gremlin to these two boards? As always, thanks for the the feedback.
Water Dog Gremlin is a Groveler... the RW and Sampler are more like small wave performance board. Not a good comparison...
I like the Gremlin for 1-4’ surf and it does pocket surfing pretty good. Very fast down the line but not a lot of tail rocker.
Thanks
Ripping! How would you compare this to the firewire mash up?
The RW out performs the Mashup in the pocket. The RW draws more high performance lines and makes the Mash Up fell like a cruiser.
The Mashup paddles a little better, it feels looser underfoot and might carry a little more speed in 1-2’ surf. The Mashup wave range is best in 1-3’ surf.
Perfect question 😂 why I came here
I can't understand why you would find it hard doing a wrap in a 1ft section... !!! You have amazing ability Salas
Hi Noel, another Great well articulated review ! I have been riding the rocket wide in Spine Tech around Asia for month's, It's an awesome little board in 1 - 3 Agree it does not have enough rail line in the water for 4 ft up ish but don't think it's meant too, it definitely feels like a small wave pocket performer than can still grovel also when the waves are lacking, My question would be what do you think would be a good Daily Driver to overlap the Rocket Wides higher end Like a HS Holy Grail or a Pyzel Phantom without going into OG Flyer territory ? Love to see you do the New JS Black Box 3 In Hi Fi Epoxy tech too, Cheer's Mate !
Beach Shak The HG and Phantom are both incredible. The Phantom is so easy to paddle and surf as a HPSB. I love HS FF technology too. I would say both the HG and Phantom will overlap in the OG Flyer territory but they all surf a little different.
Sorry meant to ask to compare to Lost UD in same conditions. Thanks again.
Water Dog RE is a better 1-3’ Groveler and the UD is a better Daily Driver in 2-5’ surf
Thanks for the quick replies and reviews.
Water Dog Yewww
Should try the rocket wide in a round tail
I'm torn between to boards. What paddle's better between the rocket wide and the Pyzel Gremlin. Cheers keep up the good work
Steven Press Gremlin paddles better.... both boards are sick and you will be stoked on either.
AM Twins looked sick, you rode the best!
Morning Noel, currently have a rocket 9 thats running out of life. Need some input on if I should get another rocket 9 (really enjoyed the board), or if i should get a rocket wide. Would be used as my daily driver for 2-6 surf. Seems like you enjoyed the wide more, but can it handle those 6 foot days like the 9 does? Main concern would be the flatter entry rocker for steeper faces. Currently ride my 9 as a 2+1
Christian Bondra The RW cannot handle 5-6’ surf very well. Maybe stick with the R9.... and ride it with the Twin +1. Cheers
Hey Noel...torn between the Pyzel Astro POP and RW...which board will be a better overall option? In terms of ability which you reckon offers more?...sweet channel bro🤙🏼
Ryan S.H RW is more high performance in the pocket. The AP grovels better, paddles better, and it’s faster down the line.
I've been waiting for this review to come out
Well I hope we did this model justice... and you enjoyed the review.
I always look forward to your reviews and you absolutely did this model justice. In the Spine T technology, it almost made me forget about the P.U.
just ordered a custom spine-tek RW. thanks for all the reviews noel. surfnshow is my first stop when researching a new ride. 🤙. curious on your thoughts for a 2+1 setup for futures. what would you recommend?
@Matt Cotton Did you get it in a swallow or squash tail ?
great review as always Noel!
Hi Noel, if I'm looking for more versatile options in FCS2 range for RW what do you think between FCS II Matt Biolos PC Carbon and FCS II AM PC? First seems to fit more for such a low entry rocker groveler, second is AM and by some reviews it seems to fit quite well, however it has much more rake.
Gábor Ádám I think the MB fins will suit the RW good in some peaky beach break waves. The AM fins have excellent built in speed with the rake but it will pivot a bit slower. It’s really up to you on how you want to surf that board.
Another set of fins to consider for the RW is the AM Twin + Trailer. They are very upright and go insane in the RW.
Hi Noel, I have a Holy Grail. Can you compare both? I am thinking on adding a Rocket Wide to my quiver for the 1-3 feet waves.
That a good 2 board quiver… the RW is faster in smaller waves and it will grovel better
Hey Noel, awesome review. Wasn't surprised to hear you say it was one of the best ever for 1-3'. I have a 5'9 / 32L which I love, but only been surfing 2 years and I wonder if I would progress faster if I had 3 more liters and trade out for for 5'11 / 6'0? I'm 5'11 / 170 lbs. Do you think that would make sense to make the jump here for faster progress?
Here are some volume ranges to consider for your weight at different skill levels.
Pro/Expert 27-29L
Advanced 29-31L
Intermediate 32-34L
Beg/Int 35-37L
You could go up to 34-35L to catch more waves and have a bit more stability under your feet
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thanks for the tip!
This board is amazing to surf, it feels like a skateboard on water
Thanks for your hard work with these reviews Noel, I’m 5’9 180lbs beginner/intermediate, can build speed down the line no huge turns yet currently riding Roberts dream catcher plus 55l past year here in southern nj was wondering if 44l in this board is too big of a jump for upcoming spring/summer, torn between this and the NB2 but thought I should progress more before going NB2, if you point me in right direction I’d appreciate it so much, thanks brother
Zac Wojnar I recommend 36-38 liters for you. The RW will go good in Summer waves.
Sounds good brother! Thanks so much!
Looking for my next small wave board to replace my Pizel Gremlin 5'5" (28.2L) which doesn't work so well for me. I'm kinda sold on the Rocket Wide. Just in doubt between a 5'5" (25.8L) or a 5'6" (27.2L) Spinetek EPS. The board that works best for me all around is a CI Black/White 5'9" (24.9L). I'm 5'7", at 136lbs. Which size would you recommend for a Rocket Wide?
Alexandre Zanoni Go 5’5” RW in Spinetek
Hey Noel im going for the stock 6'2 which is 6'2 x 21 x 2 7/8 = 40.7 L.I usually go 2 3/4 on the thickness.Im unable to see the board before ordering unfortunately but do you think the rails will be big and boxy or more med-low performance type rails.My concern on boxy rails is the inability to bury the rail on the wave face.Please advise what you think.
Ryan The Rock It will be good... the rail is somewhere between the two rails you mention.
Hi Noel, I love your reviews, they are very useful! What are the differences between the Rocket Wide and Sampler? for an beginner - intermediate surfer that rides small to medium waves? Cheers!
RW seems to have a little more rocker so it will surf better is 2-5’ surf. Both boards are user friendly... I would go with the RW
Hi Noel, can you please share your thoughts on which is the board you would choose between the new Fishbeard and the Rocket Wide?
thanks mate , luv your shows
ROBERT TEAL My choice is the NB2... its faster and a bit more radical and it pushes my surfing. Check out our Surfboard War between the RW and NB2. You can see the difference between the two pretty easily.
Hey Noel, great review as always. I've been learning a lot with your videos.
Btw, wich fins you've choose for that 3 4' f surf?
Do you think that any other fins could fix it? Maybe speed control series...
Thank you again
GGN Maybe some other fins will go a little better. Maybe something with less rake..... more upright.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thanks for the feedback! Cheers
Hi Noel, I’m debating between the rocket 9 w/ dual fusion core and the rocket wide. Which board would have a wider range? Would the dual fusion core rocket 9 function just as well in 1-3 ft? Trying to look for an all around board. Thanks!
Dustin Lang The RW is a Groveler for 1-3’ surf. The Rocket 9 is more of a daily Driver... I don’t recommend it for Groveling. It has too much rocker. Not even in the Dual Core.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thanks for getting back and for the advice!
Aloha Noel,
Amazing review once again! I have the Pod Mod, but I was wondering how you would compare the rocket wide to it? Thinking of adding rocket wide to quiver, but wondering if it’s another small wave board... mahalo!
G K PM grovels better in 1-3’ surf. The RW is sharper in the pocket and better in the lip due to more rail line and a bit more of a performance outline
Hi Noel,
Looks like a fun board. Curious if you are going to review the Chilli Black vulture?
Thanks!
R Watty I ordered on months ago but I have not heard from the folks at Chilli on when they are sending it my way. Hopefully soon....
Hey Noel, I've got the RW and I'm trying to decide on which pivot fin to get for small sized waves. You recently started testing the NVS peregrine lately but also noticed you riding the futures P8 in the surfboard wars episode. Which one do you like best? Thanks!
Cory Brown I like the Peregrine’s better. However.... I like the RW best in 1-2’ surf with the AMT Twin + Trailer. The AMT is Al Merrick Twins and they are super upright. You can shred the RW with the AMT’s in 1-4’ surf no problem and it’s a game changer in speed. I recommend those fins first in Honeycomb.
Hey Noel. Awesome Review as usual. Picked up a RW last week. After a few surfs I can say that your Review is spot on. Very easy, user friendly board.. for sure! Was looking for s suggestion on fin. What fin do you suggest.. Im 190lbs 6'3 with FCSII. Looking for a Tri-fin that maximizes drive to allows this board to truly be a "rocket".. Thoughts?
Darren S I would go with the Al Merrick Large fin in PC. Stoked your RW goes off!!! Cheers
Enjoyed that review! I currently use a 5'8 Sharpeye storms 25.8l but want something better suited for smaller 1-3ft weak waves. Do you think the 5'7 Rocketwide PU would be good or should I go with something shorter? I was also thinking #44 by CI (groveler dims) but not heard much about it. Thanks.
RW and Storms are pretty similar in 1-3’ surf. I think the RW Squash might be a little faster.
I also like the NB2… it’s fast and pivots quickly too
Noel, Any reports about the Rocket Wide as a quad? Wondering if I should order it with 3 or 5 fin boxes? And what's your opinion about how much having empty Futures Fins boxes affects the water flow under the board and thus the ride of the board? I noticed that neither you or any other high level surfer seem to use the Futures Fins filler inserts to fill any empty fin box gaps. Have you ever tried the box fillers?
caleb odam I haven’t heard of anyone trying the RW as a Quad. I am sure it’s fun though.... if your a big Quad guy then I would go 5 fin boxes.
My thoughts are not on the boxes being empty and affecting water flow. I am sure there are some issues there but not too worried about that.
For me it’s more about flex in the tail.... 3 fin boxes will minimize tail flex and 5 fin boxes even more. I don’t think I realized how much it affects the flex until I tried some glass on fins.
I say have fun and if you like Quads then you should try it and if your worried about water flow then use the inserts when your not rocking the Quad set up.
Hey Noel.
Once again you have educated me, have watched every review & have a quiver full of your favourites so thank you!
Quick question regarding the your recommendation for choppy beach break wind swell (2/3ft) waves in Queensland East Coast Australia? Have heard u say in the past (and agree) epoxy boards do move around a bit more so thinking PU for sure. My level is sometimes intermediate & weigh 160 pounds height 5’10”. Thinking OG or Rocket Wide?
Have a fever and holy grail plus puddle jumper in CW - love em all but don’t like the lost stealth (in PU). Any info would be awesome!
P.S how about a review on JS Air17x?
Trevor Hocking I would go Rocket Wide in PU. I am supposed to pick up my JS Monsta 8 and Air 17X this week. Hang tight that review is coming soon.
Surf n Show Reviews thanks again
1-4ft surf rocket wide or ultra joe?
The Overstoker RW
Hey Noel love the reviews have a question after riding both what board would you say is a better groveler between the rocket wide and the lost hydra? Or what conditions would you recommend one in more than the other?
Hydra is a way better Groveler in 1-2’ mushy surf. The RW is more of a small wave performance board best in 1-5’ surf.
Just traded my nb2 in for this. Seems to fit me better.
Haven't ridden it yet.
I'll give you feedback after a few sessions
So ? May do the same with less volume on the rocket!
@@tristanlqc6643 It's the best fitting board I've ever ridden in the last 5 years or more. 2+1 twin set up. Ultra light. It's crazy fast. It flexes really well for lively turns. Ez in small weak waves but I surfed it in overhead stuff waves recently and it just came more alive. I feel pretty unlimited. Fyi I weigh just over 200 but still intermediate so 6'0 abt 37 L. That sounds huge I know but it's a skateboard to me.
Insane board!
@@izandevainmyheart1129 what fin setup did you get? cheers
T1 Futures. It's similar to MR twins with trailer. I can ride it in 6 in LJ Shores or 6' plus Blscks or DMJs.
Super stoked
Hey Noel, I'm looking at the Rocket Wide, JS Psycho Nitro and the Mayhem Psycho Killer. I just sold my awesome V3 Rocket 6ft 34.5 ltrs as I need a bit more foam- I'm 85kgs and surf mostly beach breaks near Sydney from waist to head high. Can you recommend between these as a board that will perform with about 36-37 ltrs. Thanks Geoff
Awesome review Noel I might have to get one!
I am same height as you 5'9 but I'm 18.5 pounds heavier. So me = 178.5 pounds or 81kg.
The thing is, I want to draw the same lines as you do.... (I prob never will as you absolutely rip! I'd love to see you wildcard into an event and surf against KS!!)
My question is, can I just get same length and width board, but just make it thicker? I'm thinking if I go wider or longer my lines would be more drawn out??
I'm no maths genius, but playing around on the calculator:
So for you 5'5 x 18 3/4 X 2 5/16 = 25.8 litres
Your weight 72.5kg divide by 25.8 litres = 2.81
Don't ask me what the 2.81 means, maybe litres per kg??
Me @ 81kg divide by 2.81 = 28.8 litres
So maybe my dims would be 5'5 x 18 3/4 x 2 9/16 = 28.6 litres or go 18 7/8 to get 28.8 litres.
For you to have the same board but at 2 9/16 it might be maybe a corky feeling, not able to sink a rail etc...but for me maybe it would feel good because maybe I can sink the rail better being heavier?
Does my thinking sound right or am I off the planet?
Otherwise for me to get 28.8 litres and a stock board dims I would have to go 5'7 x 19 1'4 x 2 7/16.
*Keep the reviews coming mate, love watching the show with my favourite drink, sitting back!
rickta07 Thanks for the kind words but Kelly would smoke me in a heat. Still my all time favorite surfer.
For your liters I think a better formula is take your weight in pounds and divide it by 6. So 180 divided by 6=30 liters. If you like your boards ultra responsive then maybe 29.
I think the stock 5’8” sounds about right in PU and EPS should go good too.
OK thanks Noel. I'll go feel one up tomorrow and see what I think. Cheers
Thanks for those reviews you are the best !
I sell out 3 boards to renovate my quiver, and now I have these boards: (I am 6,2 185 lbs in shape.)
6,2 rook 15, to difficult to make turns, feels like good board only for experts, but solid.
5,11 gamma helium beach model ( not hp )
5,9 go fish for small days and to feel a good fish
I think it’s enougt for 1-8 feet but...
I want another board and feeling to surf small waves 2-4 feet when I look for fun not to practise my surfing like the gamma surfing.what would you recommend me?
Rocket wide, holy grail, neck beard 2
Xabier xabi Neck Beard 2
So the ultra joe goes better when the surf gets above 3 feet? I know I shouldn’t compare the rocket wide and the ultra joe but I really like these two boards and was leaning towards the rw until you said it started to struggle above 3 ft and I remember you saying the uj went good from 1-4+
The Overstoker Watch the Surfboard Wars on the RW... I pushed it some bigger surf and it went better. The RW and UJ will shred 1-4’ surf... beyond that I say get on a Fever.
Hi Noel, great review as always. I got the RW Spintek a few months back and love it. I gotta say I catch about 50% more waves in any given session even when the waves are not great. I am 5'10 145 (+ 7ish lbs with a 4/3 wetsuit) and went for the 5'10 (34.5 liters) as it was what was available at the time. While this extra foam is super helpful easily getting me in to waves and less noticable in bigger surf, I kind of feel that in the small stuff it feels a bit bulky. So, was thinking about downsizing a bit but not wanting to go too low on the volume. Thoughts on the 5'10 vs 5'9? I am hoping to keep the "ease of catching waves" and remove the "bulkiness" :)
Go 5’9” or else the liters will still be too much
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what would you suggeste as best surfboard: rocket wide or pyzel gremlin for 2-5 foot waves beach break? thanks for you job
Rocket Wide
@@surfnshowreviews7777 rocket wide vs pyzel astro pop?
drive, speed, flow, manouvabrility?
I love the reviews! Keep it up.
You got me in a pickle. Rocket wide or puddle jumper HP??
6 foot 200lbs
Patrick Nickols Both boards are sick... these two boards are favorites for sure. I say go to a shop and check them both out. Sometimes just touching then you know which one suits your style. Cheers and let me know what you get.
Hey Noel! Your reviews r the best!! Im an inter/beg surfer. 76k-77k Though about the Rocket in 5.10 or the seaside in 5.6 or the black baron in 5.9😅 what do u think will be the best groveler surfboard for me? Thnks
Ore Tabak Lahav Seaside
Thanks for this nice review Noel 👌
I got a CI fever in 5’11 (27,9L) which works great in the 2-3 feet but Its harder for me to really generate speed down the line in the 1ft range, and the paddle can be sometimes exhausting ahah
Should I take the rocket wide with the same volume than my shortboard you Reckon, like the 5’7 (even a bit more than the fever)
Or add a bit a volume, like the 5,8. Im 1’88 tall and 75 kilos, intermediate plus level.
Thank you for your advise !!
A lerpi The 5’7” is roughly 1 liter more compared to your Fever... you should be good. That extra 1 liter will float roughly 10 more pounds. The 5’8” at 30.3 liters seems to big. I would go 5’7”!!!!
thanks mate !!
Hi Noel, not sure whether you have ridden the CIS Groveller 4. I have one in a 5'9 at 30.5lts, I am 51yo 5'7 and 72 kg's. I was wondering what are the differences between the Rocket Wide, Grovellor 4 and the PJHP? DOes this board ride much differently to them?
Thanks in advance. Ricky
Ricky Cole The #4 Groveler is pretty sick... I liked that board. It’s been a while since I rode it but it carries good speed and shreds small pockets. Not sure if I like it better compared to PJHP or RW...
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thanks Noel. yes, it's a great board. If there is not a major difference between the 4 and the Rocket Wide I will stick with it for a while. Love watching your reviews! Rick
Hi, thank you for your great reviews!
I want to order the rocket wide model
What is better for medditrian waves 1'-4' ft,
Swallow or squash tail, and what is the difference?
How would you compare/recommend the rocket wide vs pyzel white tiger vs CI G-Skate? I live on the East Coast and want a groveler for North Florida, South Carolina, or OBX. Usually looking to surf a smaller board in 3-5 ft waves because that is a good day on this coast lol. Thanks!
White Tiger is a way better Groveler
Which has more down the line flow? I’ve been liking vee bottoms lately, the way they go rail to rail and make wiser boards feel narrower. Mod 2 has vee vs concave on the rocket wide....M2 has more of a fish feel I guess??
Matthew Jones Yes more Fish like.... it’s a bit wider across the mid section of the board and not as thinned out in the nose area... so make sure you don’t go to much volume on the M2.
Hey Noel, great review! Can’t wait to get my hands on those proto future fins in the near future. I am torn between the neckbeard 2 and the rocket wide, both in spine tek. I have actually tried both boards as demos but didn’t have the ideal waves to really feel out the boards. I surf in Santa Cruz where the majority are mushier waves. I have a PU OG flyer as a daily driver (I’m getting spinetek partially for better durability). What did you like and dislike about each board? since you were able to try both in ideal conditions. I’m looking for the board I’ll get the most out of, that I can take out in most conditions leading up to the days I should use my flyer.
Kainalu The RW has excellent speed and good pocket surfing in 1-3’ surf. For a Groveler in 1-3’ surf the RW is unmatched for performance for me.
The NB2 can do it all very well... the 1 board quiver. It’s the best Daily Driver I have ridden to date. 1-6’ surf this NB2 shines. Good speed, performance, airs, sick off the bottom. You cannot go wrong with either. Both boards excel in mushy waves. Cheers
Wow you surf really really nice.
Hi Noel, I was hoping you could give me your 2 cents between the RW and the Sharpeye Modern 2. I've got my eyes set on one of these boards and I'd really love to hear which one you prefer.
Emilio Carrasco Both boards are sick. The RW has a more high performance feel to it and it can do tight turns in the pocket. The RW is still my favorite 1-2’ Groveler to date.
The Modern Two has a Groveler feel to it with a lot of foam forward. Good speed and rail to rail surfing but no match for the RW when it comes to performance surfing.
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Hey Noel, if by chance you found my comment, really loved the review and I can say enough how much progress you've done in your videos. Impressive ! Any recommandation for a similar board in 2021 ? (maybe for something in just a bit bigger wave like 5')
Thanks for the help !
I like the Driver 2.0, Phantom, and Fever. The Phantom is most user friendly in 3-7’ surf.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Hey Noel, thanks for your answer. I'm hesitating between the phantom and the RW. Those boards seems to cover the same range of wave, yet surfing completely different. With the rocket wide looking better in 1-2' surf and the phantom in 4-6' wave. I kind of surf "not so good/mushy" waves, around 2' to 4' most of the time, so both boards could fit my needs. I'm looking for a board to have fun, so super user friendly with ton of speed. Not too much into extra performance. Both your reviews seems to make the board shines, but I thinks it's because of your incredible skills to adapt to any boards ... I'm kinda lost, what would you advise to an intermiediate surfer, weekend warriors ? Thanks !
@@kekoustuts3748 I suggest the RW in Spinetek for 2-4’ mushy waves. For extra speed run the Al Merrick Twin + Trailer. They are very upright so the will pivot quickly too.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thank you so much for your help, this is really valuable to me ! Thanks so much. Already own those fins, so it's perfect ! One last question to be sure. I'm 6' tall for 166lbs. Thanks to your video, I should probably go around 31L, you think it's good or I should add a little more volume ? Thanks !! Have a nice day !
@@kekoustuts3748 I like 32-33L better... if you like you boards more responsive then go 32L
Hi Noël, i was thinking of ordering this board custom, taking the 5'7 original dims and stretching it to 5'9 and adding a round tail. The Idea is to keep the easy paddling characteristic but widening the wave range to make it look more like a daily driver. Do you think it's a good Idea? Or would a nb3 would just better suit my need ?
For info i'm 5'10, 150lbs and low intermediate.
Just go NB3
Better the RW with swallow tail or the new one with squash?
Noel how does the rocket wide compare to the untitled. I know the ride differently but are they designed for the same type of surf conditions??
michael koch The Untitled is more of a Daily Driver. It can grovel pretty good but I like it better 2-6’ surf. The RW is best in 1-3’+.
Noel, how does the Spinetek compare to the Flexbar tech? I really liked the Flexbar feel but the decks cracked far to easily .....
Matthew Jones The Spinetek is stronger and a little stiffer. So the spring back is faster on the Spinetek but the Flexbar is a smoother ride.
Thanks Noel....I have a sharp eye in Fusion E2, how does the spinetek compare to this and the other constructions out there? I’ve also ridden xtr and varial quite a lot and have a baby Buggy in the new C4....Just trying to decide whether to go Pu or eps for a daily driver....cheers
Matthew Jones I really like all of the new Technologies. I think the C4 and Spinetek are a little more durable and they still have great flex characteristics. The LFT and Helium by FireWire are by far the most durable with great flex.
I’m mainly focused on the performance and how the spinetek differs.....I don’t mind a board that’s less durable (the Flexbars were just stupidly weak on the decks)....I’ve also got an LFT board which is up there with my favourite eps boards at the minute. LFT vs Spinetek?
Matthew Jones The Spinetek has a faster rebound compared to the Flexbar, Carbon Wrap, E2, and C4.
Hey Noel thanks for the review, getting this board bcuz of you!! What size should I get? 6’2 175 lbs intermediate surfer. I was looking at the 5’10 with 33 liters, what do you think? Looks great under your feet man.
Nick Silver Too much volume at 33 liters. I like the 5’8 or 5’9” for you. Your liters should be 31-32 at most... so 5’8” in Spinetek or 5’9” PU.
Hi Noel, great review. I’m 6’1, 76kg. I use for most of my board 30L.
I’m just about to buy one, thinking about this dimensions. What do you recomend? 5’8 19 1/2 2 1/2 30.3L. Thanks a million fin Ireland
Another epic review, thanks
If you 🤔 this is the best groveler you have rode thus far you should try the moonbeam by FireWire
Miguel Marquina I just got a Moonbeam and that review is coming soon.
I took my brand new one out this morning at Uppers, oh and by the way Brian from Rip Curl says hello. The board was so fun and responsive I can't wait till the review drops, I'm really excited to see what your thoughts on the board are
Miguel Marquina Epic.., Brian is a cool guy. Rip Curl SC is a great shop too. Insane board selection.
Great review Noel as always ! How does it compare to the Sharp Eye Modern 2? I was about to pull the trigger on a 5’6 M2 in E2 tech
Matthew Jones This RW is more performance oriented. The Modern 2 is a bit of a cruiser compared to this RW... but the M2 will paddle a little better.
Hey, how would you compare the Gremlin to the Rocket Wide?
Aaron Taylor Gremlin paddles better and carries more speed in the mush. RW offers more performance in the pocket.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 if you had to pick between gremlin, astropop or RW for 1-3ft as a performance groveler what would you choose ?
@@Awd1182 Astro POP
Hi Noel
Thanks for you reviews,always helped to me.
I have the Seaside machado firewire 5´8 34l and works amazing in small waves,my best board in smal surf ever.
Im intermediate average surf, but im in god shape.
Im really interested in the Rocket Wide,to get more vertical turns,in 6" size waves
Do you thin i can get the 5,9 32l ...or is better the 5´10 33,5 l for me
im afraid to fell a lot diferent,to much sensitive in a more power waves
Really thans for your work...and
Good waves for everybody
Jacobosuarezcernuda Sc How tall are you and how much do you weigh?
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My weight 180 pounds
My size 6"
Thanks ;)
Jacobosuarezcernuda Sc Go 5’9” at 32 liters.