Noel, I have to say that your $5 subscription for surf coaching is amazing ! It totally change my surf for the better. I watch 1 short lesson at night and next morning when I’m the water, all the details you mention come to action like by magic ! Thanks
I really loved this board, I tested it in the Spine-Tek, and it was so good is micro-waves, under knee high. But so much better in waist to chest high. Thanks so much for the in-depth review.
Ask and ye shall receive. Thanks Noel. Damn Magnum, I remember surfing with him when his roommate in Oceanside and I went to college together....Early 90's...its cool, I don't have any hair now either....Thanks you guys
Bobby likes Emma Wood, that's why he uses the double-diamond muscle shark design. Those waves can be pretty reliable, surging up from deep channels into shallow reef and sand banks year-round. You have to pay to play in Ventura and it reflects through all their style(s) and performance
I'm 5'7 160 surfing a 5'8 bobby quad. I'm an intermediate surfer so not surfing this thing really high performace. I like this board a lot, and it makes me a way better surfer than my other 6'0 shortboard.
Hi Noel, very informative - thank you. A question regarding sizing up boards in general. I like how you mention at the end of reviews 'who is this board for'. Of course an intermediate or expert level is also dependant on age/weight etc. Some boards do not size up well, often because they have a wide nose and in bigger dimensions, these can catch, (depending on contour and rails of course). So wondering if you might consider as part of a recommendation mentioning whether the board in your opinion, is one that is suitable to size up (if you're an intermediate, older or both etc). Thanks again.
I think most boards that have this type of hybrid outline are prone to catching in the nose area if you do not surf them heavily off the tail. With that being said I often have these hybrid outline type boards even catch on me when I surf them too. I usually mention that in every review on boards that have a wider nose. Sizing up on these types of boards will even make them more prone to catching in the nose area and my thoughts on that are choose boards like the Rocket Wide Squash tail to be your small wave performance board. These types of small wave boards size up a little better as the have more of a performance outline with a pulled in nose.
Hi Noel! Glad you’re back at it! And thanks for this review! I’m wanting to get this board, but I’m unsure wether the 5’2 (25.3 L.) or 5’4 (27.4 L.) I’m 5’9 tall and weight 140 pounds By now I’ve been surfing with a Round nose fish retro 5’2 (27.3 L.) Best regards!
Cheers!! The BQ and BV2 is a great comparison. Both boards are sick. The BV2 might carry a little more speed down the line as a Twin + Trailer and grovel better in small mushy surf do to its speed. The BQ seems to surf top to bottom a little better… tighter turns in the pocket.As a 1 board quiver I would go BQ… as a Groveler I would go BV2.
Good comparison... the PM is epic too but I think the BQ offers a bit more hold and drive. The BQ might be a tad faster down the line too. The PM is great because you can ride it as a Thruster, Twin + Trailer and I think Quad too. Some folks are not Quad guys... just saying.
Great reviews Noel🤙🏻 For intermediate surfer who wants to ride 1-5 foot waves would you recommend CI Bobby Squad or Pyzel Gremlin? (Summer approaches here in Peru)
Hi Noel, Great review the BQ looks awesome. Just one question, how does the BQ stack up against the Mashup? Looks like they are pretty similar on paper. Cheers Stuart 🤙
BQ is more versatile in wave size at 1-6’ surf. The BQ is faster and offers more drive and better in the pocket. The Mashup feels looser underfoot and has good speed but best in 1-3’ surf.
Ni Noel, excellent review. Just have a question: how would you compare it with the Rocket Wide ? I am planning to by one, but looking to this review it makes me think what can the best option for smaller surf, to replace my NB2. (for bigger days I am using the NB3). Thanks and hope you are improving well with your injury.
The BQ will shred 1-2’ surf better compared to the RW or NB2 and NB3. The BQ is shorter so it will fit in tighter transitions faster and it will easier to gain speed quickly because it’s shorter in smaller surf. As the waves get bigger the BQ performs very well but the extra rail line on the RW and NB3 will offer more drawn out turns and a bit more stability on rail.
The Seaside feels like a cruiser compared to the BQ. You have to remember that the Seaside is a Performance Fish and the BQ is a Performance groveler. The Seaside surfs more down the line and seems to attack the lip more diagonal and carve more. The BQ offers excellent down the line speed with good pivot in the pocket to draw more progressive lines.
Great review of the Bobby Quad. I like how you went over board construction at the end of the review but wanted to ask what’re your thoughts about getting the Bobby Quad in varial foam? I will surf this board as my everyday daily rider but mainly surfing weekends in the mornings so it’s usually clean to a slight bump on the water. I surf in HB down to Trails in waves from 1-6 ft. Let me know what you think yeew
I like the Varial foam with a polyester resin… excellent pop and it goes good with a little texture too. I tried their foam with epoxy resin years ago and the board felt stiff and lifeless through turns. It was more durable (less presidents) but didn’t have that pop. They do infused glassing now so all that might have changed with epoxy resin. I highly recommend calling the folks at Varial and getting your BQ dialed before you order it online.
Hi noel hope your having up well great review as always. As you put both the Bobby quad and the ultra joe in the groveller bracket which would you grab first and why? Thanks as always Jon P.s hope it's the it's the ultra joe 😆😉. I've got one but waiting to recover my knee ligaments before I can surf it!
Both boards Grovel very well… I think the BQ is more versatile and shreds average waves better. The UJ might carry a little more down the line but the speed between these two models is pretty close. One thing to consider is the UJ gives you fin set up options like Thruster, Quad, and Twin + Trailer and you only have Quad option on the BQ. Some surfers are not Quad guys… just saying.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 noel thank you as always. Great reply and as I discussed with you about that before getting the ultra joe quads might not be might thing. Thruster and 2+1. I do plan to try it as a quad to. Keep on shredding 🤙
I have the UJ and BQ in same construction very similar dims, I find the UJ wins as a groveller and I ride my UJ only as a quad, which is its best fin setup imo. BQ goes better in better waves with more push and cleaner.
Love the review! I just got my Bobby Quad in tech flex. I’m 5’11” and 155lbs and got 5’8”. I have a set of AM1 and I have a quad set of Alpha 6. Advice on how I should start? AM1 and the quad rears from alpha 6 or just run the alpha quad set? Surfing Huntington Beach mostly. Not too knowledge or have the feel for fins yet. Intermediate surfer.
Hi Noel, great review as usual. Do you have any preference between the BQ and the Lost Puddle Fish in 2-4ft surf ? Also curious about the Ultra Joe. Thanks
I have both the UJ and BQ, I ride the UJ only as a quad and find it's definitely better in 1-2ft than the BQ. It seems the BQ wants more steeper waves, not such a good groveller as UJ. I think BQ has more tail rocker, so this could be the reason.
The BQ and 96 are both incredible sleds in my book. Both have excellent wave range in 1-6’+ surf and draw progressive lines. I think it then comes down what do you prefer… Twin + Trailer, Thruster, or pure Twinny on the 96, or Quad with the BQ. You really can’t go wrong with either.
Hi Noel, great review! What do you think would be the better choice between the Bobby Quad and the Ultra Joe for a beginner/intermediate surfing mainly 1 to 4 foot beach brakes? 🤙
Hey Noel, I surf a lot of mushy beach breaks but also have some points close by. I’m thinning out my quiver and have a pintail shortboard that works in 4-9’ waves. I’m looking at the Bobby quad to fill the other spot. What do you recommend
I am starting something new called Best of The Best in each board category. This first one will be the Best 1 board Quiver Hybrid Outline. Hang tight and you will see how these two boards stack up against each other
Awesome review Noel. I looked at a 6’4 BQ yesterday and wanted to research more. I go between my neckbeard and catch surf RNF but want something bigger for more fun and more waves in the mushy/small pacific beach (SD) surf. At 6’3 230lbs, intermediate/advanced do you recommend 6’2 or 6’4 BQ?
If you like more foam then go 6’4”. I like my boards a bit more responsive and shorter than my height on most boards in small waves. If you are like me then go 6’2”.
Noel, With volume being perceived as the most important dimension I feel as if it is still misunderstood to a degree. For instance, I find too much volume can keep a surfer from progressing their skills all for the sake of stability and paddle-ability; which isn't necessarily the case. I think surfers should constantly be seeking their lower limits of volume in order to progress. With that said.....with your current weight of 172 lbs., did you find yourself wanting less volume, or your pre-surgery volume, when riding the Bobby quad?
I agree with most of your comment... I like to push the lower end of my volume to keep my equipment responsive and continue to progress my surfing. My volume on this Bobby Quad at 27.4L is a bit due to my weight increase of 7-8lbs from my hip replacement surgery. I say add 1L more or 1L less for every 8-10lbs you loose or gain.
Hi Noel, big thanks for the great content you share with all of us. I have one question, I am moving from beginner to intermediate, and I use a Pyzel Phantom 6'0" (32.6L) and a Torq funboard 6'8" (41.8L). As the Torq feels too dead and heavy I wish to switch it to a Groveler to work on my performance in smaller waves. At start I looked at the CI Pod Mod, then friends told me the Lost Puddle Jumper HP is the best, and now I see the BQ. I wish you could help me go for the best option, if I have the Phantom, what's the best addition to cover the smaller waves where the Phantom won't work? Gratefully 🙏
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thank you Noel. If I may ask you about the Spinetek. My experience with epoxy (from the torq mainly) was that the board has no soul and feels too stiff. Would you still recommend Spinetek in my case?
Great Review.. Is this board similar to the Seaside? Seems fast and drivey like the Seaside with a bit more pocket presence. Which is a better daily as far as range small to big.
Hey Noel. I’m curious why you said someone under 200 pounds should ride medium sides and medium quad rears? What do you think about large am2 honey comb futures with medium pivot quad rears honeycomb for someone who is 175-185?
Hey Noel. I'm in a surfboard shaping class where I get to outline cut and glass aboard and I was wondering what groveler board you feel is the best to create. I surf in Hermosa/Manhattan Beach and need a groveler for those 1-3ft days. I'm an intermediate to advanced level surfer and want a board with mainly good paddle power and speed. What groveler would you recommend for me to replicate in my shaping class? (It would also be nice if the board wasn't too complicated to create since I do not have great experience shaping.) Thanks, lmk.
Hi Noel great review. CI website says it's okay to scale up this board, do you agree? Would you say it's safe to scale up even 6-8 liters for super soft surf? for int./advanced surfer? I ride my shortboards at 25 liters and like my grovelers at 31-34 for almost longboard style waves. I'm still figuring out which boards perform well sized up and which ones don't. I'm 5'10 and 147 pounds. Thanks!
Hey noel, killer review again, confirmed that im going for the bq as my one-board daily driver here in NY. Im 6'2" 185lbs and my go-to size is 6'0" around 36 liters, but it seems like its better to go shorter with this, what size would you recommend? Thanks a bunch!
Here are some volume ranges for you to choose from at your weight at different skill levels. Pro/ Expert = 29-31L Advanced = 31-33L Intermediate = 34-36L If you wear a lot of rubber in the winter then add 1-2L per level too.
I still miss AL. PS, where’s that quad fin setup on your site? Is it the 5 fin set? I know I was looking a bit ago in case I ended up getting a Mashup, but I was kinda confused about which fins to buy for a quad neutral side and pivot rear. PPS, your buddy in PR looks like your long lost brother.
Sorry for any confusion... Yes, my Five Fin set is what I was using in this review and they are my favorite. Here is the link.... surfnshow.com/products/momentum-series-5-fin-set You can also just buy my Momentum Series Quad Rears solo and add them to your favorite side fins.
Hey Noel, how does the BQ compare to the Mashup? I have the Seaside and Dominator and looking for a board that will go well in San Diego waves as well as BSR. I saw a few guys riding the BQ at BSR last year and it looked that board was working well.
@@jasong2729 I like the BQ way better for Waco Surf and in the ocean. It draws more performance lines in the pocket and it faster down the line compared to the Mashup.
I bought the Revo about a month ago. I'm 6'2" 220lbs and got the 5'10"/36.5. Every time I've ridden it, I wished it their volume ranges weren't so pronounced - really wanted it .5L smaller. Felt bloated. Also did not like the channels in the back. Felt like they track too much. The Evo felt more fun to me, but that was way back. Might try a Helium Evo...
@@surfnshowreviews7777 For sure. I actually started it as a quad as that was what I read in the description it was designed for, but didn't like that. Tried 2+1 and it was way too pivoty. Then thruster and it was still much. Did two thruster sides and a +1 and that was the best feel for me, but ultimately put it on consignment. Still considering the Helium Evo though. Good review on this BQ man, I'm getting more interested in it
Hey, its been a while since this video was released so I'm not sure if you see this but.. im 5'10 220lbs fit intermediate/advanced surfer. Do you think the BQ would go well as a custom 5'9 pushed out dims to give about 38L?? Thanks
I'm getting a 5'0", but in XTR and plan to put on neo glass performer quad mediums, but I also have some Dan Mann carbons that I like. I'm 5'5" and 130lbs. What do you think?
Noel, I was gonna order a custom neckbeard 2 and was wondering how to keep the right liter range as for changing width and thickness. Big thing is i'm tall but quite light at 6'1 and 155 pounds, thanks.
I find that boards with the wide point back from center and a little less foam under the front foot make it pivot quicker and get into the lip faster with less effort.
The El Tomo Fish is epic and somewhat similar to the BQ in 3-6' surf offering excellent performance in the pocket. However the BQ is more versatile as it shreds 1-2' surf way better as the El Tomo Fish is not a groveler.
Sweet review of the Bobby Quad! I'm considering of purchasing a 6'0 BQ to take with me to the Maldives in April of 2023. I'm 5'8 1/2 and weigh 155 lbs. I'm looking to size up from my 5'9 Pigme by Stewart Surfboards (36 L) Do you think this would do the trick? Thanks Noel!
Here are some volume ranges to think about for your weight at different skill levels. Pro/Exp = 24-26L Advanced = 26-28L Intermediate = 29-31L Beginner/Intermediate = 34-38L
@@surfnshowreviews7777 This is so helpful, thank you Noel!! I have one more question if you don’t mind please….The Bobby Quad doesn’t come with fins, which Future Fins would you recommend for an intermediate surfer looking to advance his skills? I love what your doing here for the surfing community and I especially liked your episode on how to paddle better!
Both boards are really fun to shred and I would have a hard time choosing between the two.... I would just have both in my quiver. I find that most surfers would say the BQ is easier to shred and more user friendly. On the other hand I have friends that grew up surfing HPSB Thrusters and Grovelers like the BQ and only ride Twin Fins now.... and a bunch of them swear by the Fish Beard. In the end.. whatever you personally like more Quads or Twin Fins better should help you decide as you cannot go wrong with either in my opinion. Just make sure you get the right Twin Fins for the Fishbeard if you want it to draw high performance lines.
Hi Peter from South Africa, I would like to review two fin. Trueames Wynne rich - nightmare Trueames Pavel speed dialer Quad Love your show ,keep the good things coming God bless Peter
BQ is a better Groveler, it Carrie’s more speed and offers excellent performance in 1-6’ surf. The El T Fish is good in 3-6’ surf… I like them both but the BQ is a better 1 board quiver.
The Hydra is best in weak mushy waves due to its low rocker overall. It’s a true Groveler…. Best in 1-3’ surf. The BQ out performs the Hydra in the pocket and it can handle steep hollow waves with ease compared to the Hydra. The BQ has a way better wave range at 1-6’ surf.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Do you know how the Lib-Tech technology falls in the realm of floatiness vs PU and standard EPS? Might get the lib-tech hydra but not sure what volume. Dont want to over or under on it. Thanks.
@@propwash6880 Not sure sorry. The last time I held one in my hands it felt pretty heavy. I say similar to PU/Poly volume. Maybe give the folks at Lib Tech shout and see what they say.
Do a surf review of Rusty's: The Blade,….. and,……. The 1984. Because they look bitchin, and surf bitchin. The Bobby Quad surfs bitchin, but, it doesn't look bitchin. Look at Letty Motensen's blow ups on The Blade,… epic,….,…. and the Rusty 1984 vid with Occy and crew,…. looks bitchin, both the board, and the surfing. Sincerely. And remember, as for hips and body integrity,…. with high intensity physical lifestyle,…. you gotta do some serious nose-to-tail carnivore dietary,… including skin (pork in particular in regard to skin). Gotta get more skin in the game.
@@tezf6883 White Noiz is epic with the right fins (average standard shapes such as the F series, and inner foils), not Merricks btw. You've ridden White Noiz? If so which fins?
The new Torkoro future fins insane in the FRK, FRK hands down the fastest most responsive, super fun shortboard I've ever ridden I love it. Way better then the white noiz by a long shot, get a FRK iboic and get back to me.
Noel you’re a legend man! Best surf board reviews and u rip!!!! Thank you
Great review. I’m glad you found a stand in and if Slater needs one he now has two. 😊
Noel, I have to say that your $5 subscription for surf coaching is amazing ! It totally change my surf for the better. I watch 1 short lesson at night and next morning when I’m the water, all the details you mention come to action like by magic ! Thanks
Yewww! So stoked my lessons are helping you!
I really loved this board, I tested it in the Spine-Tek, and it was so good is micro-waves, under knee high. But so much better in waist to chest high. Thanks so much for the in-depth review.
Ask and ye shall receive. Thanks Noel. Damn Magnum, I remember surfing with him when his roommate in Oceanside and I went to college together....Early 90's...its cool, I don't have any hair now either....Thanks you guys
Nice to see you back Noel 🤙
Looks good. Bobby always rips one of the best ever imo. Nice drift from your friend
Yay! Solid review. Thanks!
Amazing review ! Very Helpful coach ! Thank you so much ! :D
nice to see you back in the water
Great review! Frothing to get mine for testing this month.
Love mine! Prefer it in 3-6' waves. Experiment with the fins until you find your groove👍🏼
Had one your boards in about 79’, 81’? The thing ripped for back in the day!
He’s back 🙌🏼
Cheers… feels good to be back
Excellent bro 👌!! 👌
Awesome! Thanks!
Bobby likes Emma Wood, that's why he uses the double-diamond muscle shark design. Those waves can be pretty reliable, surging up from deep channels into shallow reef and sand banks year-round. You have to pay to play in Ventura and it reflects through all their style(s) and performance
Awesome review bought a bob quad after watching and loved the board ❤
Hey I’m looking into getting the Bobby quad are u still riding it? Are u still stoked on it?
Hi Noel
Will you be reviewing any Album surfboards?? Twinsman looks sick …
Thanks for great reviews!
I'm 5'7 160 surfing a 5'8 bobby quad. I'm an intermediate surfer so not surfing this thing really high performace. I like this board a lot, and it makes me a way better surfer than my other 6'0 shortboard.
Lot of info forgot to hit like last time I watched. Likely going to Puerto Rico this winter next spring
Hi Noel, very informative - thank you. A question regarding sizing up boards in general. I like how you mention at the end of reviews 'who is this board for'. Of course an intermediate or expert level is also dependant on age/weight etc. Some boards do not size up well, often because they have a wide nose and in bigger dimensions, these can catch, (depending on contour and rails of course). So wondering if you might consider as part of a recommendation mentioning whether the board in your opinion, is one that is suitable to size up (if you're an intermediate, older or both etc). Thanks again.
I think most boards that have this type of hybrid outline are prone to catching in the nose area if you do not surf them heavily off the tail. With that being said I often have these hybrid outline type boards even catch on me when I surf them too. I usually mention that in every review on boards that have a wider nose. Sizing up on these types of boards will even make them more prone to catching in the nose area and my thoughts on that are choose boards like the Rocket Wide Squash tail to be your small wave performance board. These types of small wave boards size up a little better as the have more of a performance outline with a pulled in nose.
Great Noel
Hi Noel! Glad you’re back at it! And thanks for this review! I’m wanting to get this board, but I’m unsure wether the 5’2 (25.3 L.) or 5’4 (27.4 L.)
I’m 5’9 tall and weight 140 pounds
By now I’ve been surfing with a Round nose fish retro 5’2 (27.3 L.)
Best regards!
Maybe order a custom 5’3” BQ at 26.5L. On the stock dims you can shred the 5’2 and 5’4” but if your RNF feels good volume wise then go 5’4”
HI Noel, nice to see u ripping again, great review as usual, congratulations.
How would you compare the BQ with the BV2 or the RW?
Cheers!! The BQ and BV2 is a great comparison. Both boards are sick. The BV2 might carry a little more speed down the line as a Twin + Trailer and grovel better in small mushy surf do to its speed. The BQ seems to surf top to bottom a little better… tighter turns in the pocket.As a 1 board quiver I would go BQ… as a Groveler I would go BV2.
Hi Noel, Love your reviews, I bought a CI Ultra joe based off your review and agree it goes better as a quad, how does UJ compare to BQ. Thanks
Great review as always Noel. How would you compare the BQ to the PodMod for quick/steep beach breaks?
Good comparison... the PM is epic too but I think the BQ offers a bit more hold and drive. The BQ might be a tad faster down the line too. The PM is great because you can ride it as a Thruster, Twin + Trailer and I think Quad too. Some folks are not Quad guys... just saying.
Great reviews Noel🤙🏻 For intermediate surfer who wants to ride 1-5 foot waves would you recommend CI Bobby Squad or Pyzel Gremlin? (Summer approaches here in Peru)
Bobby Quad without a doubt
Hi Noel,
Great review the BQ looks awesome. Just one question, how does the BQ stack up against the Mashup? Looks like they are pretty similar on paper.
Cheers
Stuart 🤙
BQ is more versatile in wave size at 1-6’ surf. The BQ is faster and offers more drive and better in the pocket.
The Mashup feels looser underfoot and has good speed but best in 1-3’ surf.
Ni Noel, excellent review. Just have a question: how would you compare it with the Rocket Wide ? I am planning to by one, but looking to this review it makes me think what can the best option for smaller surf, to replace my NB2. (for bigger days I am using the NB3). Thanks and hope you are improving well with your injury.
The BQ will shred 1-2’ surf better compared to the RW or NB2 and NB3. The BQ is shorter so it will fit in tighter transitions faster and it will easier to gain speed quickly because it’s shorter in smaller surf. As the waves get bigger the BQ performs very well but the extra rail line on the RW and NB3 will offer more drawn out turns and a bit more stability on rail.
Hi noel, big fan of your content. Was curious if this board compares at all with the firewire seaside. thanks!
Was wondering exactly the same thing! What do you think Noel?!?
The Seaside feels like a cruiser compared to the BQ. You have to remember that the Seaside is a Performance Fish and the BQ is a Performance groveler. The Seaside surfs more down the line and seems to attack the lip more diagonal and carve more. The BQ offers excellent down the line speed with good pivot in the pocket to draw more progressive lines.
Hey Noel I’m interested in the Bobby quad. What fins would work best for groveling
Reeeeeeepinggg!!!!
Hi Noel! Thank you for the great content, sorry but can you tell where do you surf ? Waves look so insane :)
Sorry we don’t talk about surf spots.
Great review of the Bobby Quad. I like how you went over board construction at the end of the review but wanted to ask what’re your thoughts about getting the Bobby Quad in varial foam? I will surf this board as my everyday daily rider but mainly surfing weekends in the mornings so it’s usually clean to a slight bump on the water. I surf in HB down to Trails in waves from 1-6 ft. Let me know what you think yeew
I like the Varial foam with a polyester resin… excellent pop and it goes good with a little texture too. I tried their foam with epoxy resin years ago and the board felt stiff and lifeless through turns. It was more durable (less presidents) but didn’t have that pop. They do infused glassing now so all that might have changed with epoxy resin. I highly recommend calling the folks at Varial and getting your BQ dialed before you order it online.
Sounds good. Thanks for the input
Hi noel hope your having up well great review as always. As you put both the Bobby quad and the ultra joe in the groveller bracket which would you grab first and why? Thanks as always Jon
P.s hope it's the it's the ultra joe 😆😉. I've got one but waiting to recover my knee ligaments before I can surf it!
Both boards Grovel very well… I think the BQ is more versatile and shreds average waves better. The UJ might carry a little more down the line but the speed between these two models is pretty close. One thing to consider is the UJ gives you fin set up options like Thruster, Quad, and Twin + Trailer and you only have Quad option on the BQ. Some surfers are not Quad guys… just saying.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 noel thank you as always. Great reply and as I discussed with you about that before getting the ultra joe quads might not be might thing. Thruster and 2+1. I do plan to try it as a quad to. Keep on shredding 🤙
I have the UJ and BQ in same construction very similar dims, I find the UJ wins as a groveller and I ride my UJ only as a quad, which is its best fin setup imo. BQ goes better in better waves with more push and cleaner.
The Bobby Bald Boys test :)
Love the review! I just got my Bobby Quad in tech flex. I’m 5’11” and 155lbs and got 5’8”. I have a set of AM1 and I have a quad set of Alpha 6. Advice on how I should start? AM1 and the quad rears from alpha 6 or just run the alpha quad set? Surfing Huntington Beach mostly. Not too knowledge or have the feel for fins yet. Intermediate surfer.
Start with the Alpha’s
Hi Noel, great review as usual. Do you have any preference between the BQ and the Lost Puddle Fish in 2-4ft surf ? Also curious about the Ultra Joe. Thanks
BQ is better than both. Better performance and wave range.
I have both the UJ and BQ, I ride the UJ only as a quad and find it's definitely better in 1-2ft than the BQ. It seems the BQ wants more steeper waves, not such a good groveller as UJ. I think BQ has more tail rocker, so this could be the reason.
So pumped on this review Noel. How does it compare to a RNF 96? They seem like they could be brothers from different mothers
Good question ! I’m having the same dilemma..
The BQ and 96 are both incredible sleds in my book. Both have excellent wave range in 1-6’+ surf and draw progressive lines. I think it then comes down what do you prefer… Twin + Trailer, Thruster, or pure Twinny on the 96, or Quad with the BQ. You really can’t go wrong with either.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thank you so much for your help coach , Amazing help !
Thanks I had the same question!! 🤙🏾🤙🏾
I’m in the same boat… BQ vs 96!!!!! Do t know which to choose
Hi Noel, great review! What do you think would be the better choice between the Bobby Quad and the Ultra Joe for a beginner/intermediate surfing mainly 1 to 4 foot beach brakes? 🤙
Both will go good. I say Ultra Joe … more fun set up options.
Hey Noel, I surf a lot of mushy beach breaks but also have some points close by. I’m thinning out my quiver and have a pintail shortboard that works in 4-9’ waves. I’m looking at the Bobby quad to fill the other spot. What do you recommend
Bobby Quad is super fun in 1-4’ surf. It’s fast and loves to surf in the pocket too
Another good review Noel! RNF 96 vs Bobby Quad? Same realm? Pros vs cons? Like to get your thoughts? Keep it up and thanks.
I am starting something new called Best of The Best in each board category. This first one will be the Best 1 board Quiver Hybrid Outline. Hang tight and you will see how these two boards stack up against each other
@@surfnshowreviews7777 wow that sounds epic! Can’t wait ! 🙌🏽
Thanks for the review. Would the EPS still work well in medium sized waves(3-6ft).?
I prefer EPS in 1-3’ surf… and PU/Poly in 4-8’ surf
Awesome review Noel. I looked at a 6’4 BQ yesterday and wanted to research more. I go between my neckbeard and catch surf RNF but want something bigger for more fun and more waves in the mushy/small pacific beach (SD) surf. At 6’3 230lbs, intermediate/advanced do you recommend 6’2 or 6’4 BQ?
If you like more foam then go 6’4”. I like my boards a bit more responsive and shorter than my height on most boards in small waves. If you are like me then go 6’2”.
Noel,
With volume being perceived as the most important dimension I feel as if it is still misunderstood to a degree. For instance, I find too much volume can keep a surfer from progressing their skills all for the sake of stability and paddle-ability; which isn't necessarily the case. I think surfers should constantly be seeking their lower limits of volume in order to progress.
With that said.....with your current weight of 172 lbs., did you find yourself wanting less volume, or your pre-surgery volume, when riding the Bobby quad?
I agree with most of your comment... I like to push the lower end of my volume to keep my equipment responsive and continue to progress my surfing. My volume on this Bobby Quad at 27.4L is a bit due to my weight increase of 7-8lbs from my hip replacement surgery. I say add 1L more or 1L less for every 8-10lbs you loose or gain.
Hi Noel, big thanks for the great content you share with all of us.
I have one question, I am moving from beginner to intermediate, and I use a Pyzel Phantom 6'0" (32.6L) and a Torq funboard 6'8" (41.8L). As the Torq feels too dead and heavy I wish to switch it to a Groveler to work on my performance in smaller waves. At start I looked at the CI Pod Mod, then friends told me the Lost Puddle Jumper HP is the best, and now I see the BQ. I wish you could help me go for the best option, if I have the Phantom, what's the best addition to cover the smaller waves where the Phantom won't work?
Gratefully 🙏
Bobby Quad in Spinetek
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thank you Noel. If I may ask you about the Spinetek. My experience with epoxy (from the torq mainly) was that the board has no soul and feels too stiff. Would you still recommend Spinetek in my case?
@@yosriouni the Spinetek has better flex. You can also go stringered EPS… it will surf more like a PU/Poly flex wise
Great Review.. Is this board similar to the Seaside? Seems fast and drivey like the Seaside with a bit more pocket presence. Which is a better daily as far as range small to big.
Absolutely.. similar wave range but the BQ offers more pivot and performance in the pocket.
Review Lost Driver 3.0 please!!
Hey Noel. I’m curious why you said someone under 200 pounds should ride medium sides and medium quad rears? What do you think about large am2 honey comb futures with medium pivot quad rears honeycomb for someone who is 175-185?
You can go Large on the sides but it might make the board a bit tight. That’s a lot of fin in the water…. Especially with a Large Raked side fin.
Hey Noel. I'm in a surfboard shaping class where I get to outline cut and glass aboard and I was wondering what groveler board you feel is the best to create. I surf in Hermosa/Manhattan Beach and need a groveler for those 1-3ft days. I'm an intermediate to advanced level surfer and want a board with mainly good paddle power and speed. What groveler would you recommend for me to replicate in my shaping class? (It would also be nice if the board wasn't too complicated to create since I do not have great experience shaping.) Thanks, lmk.
White Tiger, Ultra Joe, Astro POP
Hi Noel great review. CI website says it's okay to scale up this board, do you agree? Would you say it's safe to scale up even 6-8 liters for super soft surf? for int./advanced surfer? I ride my shortboards at 25 liters and like my grovelers at 31-34 for almost longboard style waves. I'm still figuring out which boards perform well sized up and which ones don't. I'm 5'10 and 147 pounds. Thanks!
I think it scales well but not sure I would go up 6-8L. That’s a lot more foam especially for someone your weight. Maybe scale up 4-6L
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thanks so much. Your reviews and replies have helped me find lots of great boards.
Hey noel, killer review again, confirmed that im going for the bq as my one-board daily driver here in NY. Im 6'2" 185lbs and my go-to size is 6'0" around 36 liters, but it seems like its better to go shorter with this, what size would you recommend?
Thanks a bunch!
5'9" is 35.5L
Here are some volume ranges for you to choose from at your weight at different skill levels.
Pro/ Expert = 29-31L
Advanced = 31-33L
Intermediate = 34-36L
If you wear a lot of rubber in the winter then add 1-2L per level too.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Youre the man, thank you kindly!
Yeeeew
I still miss AL.
PS, where’s that quad fin setup on your site? Is it the 5 fin set? I know I was looking a bit ago in case I ended up getting a Mashup, but I was kinda confused about which fins to buy for a quad neutral side and pivot rear.
PPS, your buddy in PR looks like your long lost brother.
Sorry for any confusion... Yes, my Five Fin set is what I was using in this review and they are my favorite. Here is the link.... surfnshow.com/products/momentum-series-5-fin-set
You can also just buy my Momentum Series Quad Rears solo and add them to your favorite side fins.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thanks Noel. Great work. 🤙🤙
Hey Noel, how does the BQ compare to the Mashup? I have the Seaside and Dominator and looking for a board that will go well in San Diego waves as well as BSR. I saw a few guys riding the BQ at BSR last year and it looked that board was working well.
@@jasong2729 I like the BQ way better for Waco Surf and in the ocean. It draws more performance lines in the pocket and it faster down the line compared to the Mashup.
Now I just need to wait for the FW Revo review so I can decide between this board and revo.
I am working on the Revo now... if you are looking for a groveler then get the BQ as the Revo is not a Groveler. Just saying....
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thanks for the heads up, BQ it is then. I surf mostly 1-4 foot. The hold on the BQ and hard you can push looks amazing.
I bought the Revo about a month ago. I'm 6'2" 220lbs and got the 5'10"/36.5. Every time I've ridden it, I wished it their volume ranges weren't so pronounced - really wanted it .5L smaller. Felt bloated. Also did not like the channels in the back. Felt like they track too much. The Evo felt more fun to me, but that was way back. Might try a Helium Evo...
@@cwr8618 Try smaller fins… it won’t track as bad
@@surfnshowreviews7777 For sure. I actually started it as a quad as that was what I read in the description it was designed for, but didn't like that. Tried 2+1 and it was way too pivoty. Then thruster and it was still much. Did two thruster sides and a +1 and that was the best feel for me, but ultimately put it on consignment. Still considering the Helium Evo though. Good review on this BQ man, I'm getting more interested in it
Hey, its been a while since this video was released so I'm not sure if you see this but.. im 5'10 220lbs fit intermediate/advanced surfer. Do you think the BQ would go well as a custom 5'9 pushed out dims to give about 38L?? Thanks
@@TristanMead-j5v Yes…
I'm getting a 5'0", but in XTR and plan to put on neo glass performer quad mediums, but I also have some Dan Mann carbons that I like. I'm 5'5" and 130lbs. What do you think?
I don't rip like you btw. I'm not horrible, but I'm not close to your level.
Sounds good to me
So comparing BQ to D2 as an quad which one would be better for punchy beach break chest to head high ?
If you like a little more rail line and a HPSB outline I say D2. If you want a better paddler and more down the line speed then go BQ.
Noel, I was gonna order a custom neckbeard 2 and was wondering how to keep the right liter range as for changing width and thickness. Big thing is i'm tall but quite light at 6'1 and 155 pounds, thanks.
What volume range are you looking for
@@surfnshowreviews7777 roughly from 27.5 to 28.5
@@neiliscool7693 I would go longer and add a little thickness 1/4” and width go up roughly 1/4”. If you don’t need to add thickness then don’t do it.
Hi Noel, what would you the components of a back footed surfboard would be? Rocker wise etc.
I find that boards with the wide point back from center and a little less foam under the front foot make it pivot quicker and get into the lip faster with less effort.
Hi Noel how you compare this WITH el tomofish? Saludos de España
The El Tomo Fish is epic and somewhat similar to the BQ in 3-6' surf offering excellent performance in the pocket. However the BQ is more versatile as it shreds 1-2' surf way better as the El Tomo Fish is not a groveler.
About the fins, I saw Kai Lenny talk about putting the smaller fins in the front. Do you think that’s a good idea?
Not sure… try it
What would be a good step up this design as a two board quiver? Quad Fever? Quad CI Pro?
I like the Fever… never tried the Pro
Huge fan of your reviews! Im looking to replace my Machado Seaside with something with bit more performance in 1-4ft. Is this the answer?
Im 5'11 163lb intermediate... eyeing the 5'7.
also looking at the rnf 96
@@timegan8466 The 96 is fire
Sweet review of the Bobby Quad!
I'm considering of purchasing a 6'0 BQ to take with me to the Maldives in April of 2023. I'm 5'8 1/2 and weigh 155 lbs. I'm looking to size up from my 5'9 Pigme by Stewart Surfboards (36 L) Do you think this would do the trick?
Thanks Noel!
Here are some volume ranges to think about for your weight at different skill levels.
Pro/Exp = 24-26L
Advanced = 26-28L
Intermediate = 29-31L
Beginner/Intermediate = 34-38L
@@surfnshowreviews7777 This is so helpful, thank you Noel!!
I have one more question if you don’t mind please….The Bobby Quad doesn’t come with fins, which Future Fins would you recommend for an intermediate surfer looking to advance his skills?
I love what your doing here for the surfing community and I especially liked your episode on how to paddle better!
@@raykalbhenn6562 I highly recommend my 5 fin set. Check them out here…
surfnshow.com/products/momentum-series-5-fin-set
@@surfnshowreviews7777 I just ordered a set, thanks Noel!
BQ or Fishbeard? Which one is more user friendly? And should you go normal volume on BQ? Thanks & great review!
Both boards are really fun to shred and I would have a hard time choosing between the two.... I would just have both in my quiver. I find that most surfers would say the BQ is easier to shred and more user friendly. On the other hand I have friends that grew up surfing HPSB Thrusters and Grovelers like the BQ and only ride Twin Fins now.... and a bunch of them swear by the Fish Beard.
In the end.. whatever you personally like more Quads or Twin Fins better should help you decide as you cannot go wrong with either in my opinion. Just make sure you get the right Twin Fins for the Fishbeard if you want it to draw high performance lines.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 what fins them for the fishbeard??
@@teamcamaleon My HP Twins…
surfnshow.com/products/twin-fins-hp-twins
THanks @Surf n Show Reviews . Would you recommend same volume as your daily driver for BQ or do you want size up or down? Thanks!
@@JM-ji7mc I like the same as my Daily
what would you pick the bobby quad or JS Sub Zero for 1-4 ft? cheers mate
Bobby Quad
Hi Peter from South Africa,
I would like to review two fin.
Trueames
Wynne rich - nightmare
Trueames
Pavel speed dialer
Quad
Love your show ,keep the good things coming
God bless
Peter
Do you think this would be able to be ridden as a twin like the el tomo fish?
Maybe… you will need a good size fin with a wide base so it doesn’t slip out. My HP Keels or the Al Merrick Keels.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thanks!
bobby quad vs. el tomo fish, which do you prefer? What are the similarities and differences
BQ is a better Groveler, it Carrie’s more speed and offers excellent performance in 1-6’ surf. The El T Fish is good in 3-6’ surf… I like them both but the BQ is a better 1 board quiver.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 thanks Mr. Salas you're a surf Genius!
How do you compare it to the Hydra?
The Hydra is best in weak mushy waves due to its low rocker overall. It’s a true Groveler…. Best in 1-3’ surf. The BQ out performs the Hydra in the pocket and it can handle steep hollow waves with ease compared to the Hydra. The BQ has a way better wave range at 1-6’ surf.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Nice! Thanks for that info.
Watching for this comment - I've got a Hydra I love and the BQ looks very similar.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Do you know how the Lib-Tech technology falls in the realm of floatiness vs PU and standard EPS? Might get the lib-tech hydra but not sure what volume. Dont want to over or under on it. Thanks.
@@propwash6880 Not sure sorry. The last time I held one in my hands it felt pretty heavy. I say similar to PU/Poly volume. Maybe give the folks at Lib Tech shout and see what they say.
That board looks terrible under foot 😂 looks like a Nano
Do a surf review of Rusty's: The Blade,….. and,……. The 1984. Because they look bitchin, and surf bitchin. The Bobby Quad surfs bitchin, but, it doesn't look bitchin. Look at Letty Motensen's blow ups on The Blade,… epic,….,…. and the Rusty 1984 vid with Occy and crew,…. looks bitchin, both the board, and the surfing. Sincerely. And remember, as for hips and body integrity,…. with high intensity physical lifestyle,…. you gotta do some serious nose-to-tail carnivore dietary,… including skin (pork in particular in regard to skin). Gotta get more skin in the game.
I've got a Slater FRK in the new ibolic now thats a bitchin board to ride. HS white noiz is not a bitchin Hayden you can keep it 😂
@@tezf6883 White Noiz is epic with the right fins (average standard shapes such as the F series, and inner foils), not Merricks btw. You've ridden White Noiz? If so which fins?
The new Torkoro future fins insane in the FRK, FRK hands down the fastest most responsive, super fun shortboard I've ever ridden I love it. Way better then the white noiz by a long shot, get a FRK iboic and get back to me.
What about ( super. Brand. Fling ) ??