Based on your past reviews, I purchased the NuPhy Air75 V2 with the Gateron brown switches. Since this is my first mechanical keyboard, I have nothing to compare it to. The experience using it is better than expected. I'm sure I made the right choice. Thanks for the chance to win the Keychron K3 Max.
Your videos are awesome dude. I tested a couple low profile keyboards that I could find at the local bestbuy and went down the rabbit hole looking for something higher quality after liking the low profile setup. Just bought an Air75 V2! Super excited for it to show up. Super high quality videos on here. Good work!
I got a Keychron K3 Max (hot-swappable) with Gateron red switches and it's been great. It's noticeably quieter than my previous normal profile keyboard (also red switches) and sounds incredibly satisfying. Not too worried about the battery life because it still lasts for weeks without the backlight, and I use the provided adapter to place the 2.4G receiver nearby so plugging it in takes less than a second.
@@sys-administrator It's basically instant with 2.4G or wired, although I have a habit of spamming the space bar when I unlock my PC. Never used the Bluetooth mode but I've heard that the Bluetooth issues in K3V2 are fixed in Max
As of July 2024 Keychron offers a UK ISO. I'd practically settled on the Keychron K3 M until you mentioned the lack of Shine Through caps. If I could combine the two together, I'd have exactly what I'm looking for. Great video. Thank you.
I own Keychron's K1 Max and use the shine-through keycaps from Nuphy and they all fitted well except for the right Shift key where Keychron's is longer so the Nuphy one leaves a bad gap. However, looking at the K3 M, the Nuphy shine-through keycaps will fit quite well. Also, the Nuphy switches for their low-profile KBs will work very well with the K3 M as the LEDs are north-facing in both the K3 M and the Air series from Nuphy, so you can go for the Nuphy Cowberry switches too. They sound so nice. I hope this helps you.
I picked the Air75v2. I really do like the floating key cap style but the NuPhy just seems like a better experience for my first mechanical keyboard. I got Aloe switches in it and added some browns extra. Also grabbed those shine through key caps. Which is a nice perk of going with the NuPhy order is grabbing that stuff while you're there. Waiting on delivery from China. Lol Amazon doesn't have the caps or switches for the price you get from NuPhy. Now the aloes.
I agree to what others are saying.. this is sooo underrated channel. Your reviews are awesome & very detailed.. definitely earned a sub here 👌 I'm new to mech KBs & was torn between the Air 75 V2 vs K3 Max. Thanks to you I now know what I need for my home setup! Ordered the Air 75 V2 with cowberry switches + shine through keycaps. Thanks again! Hope you get more subs 👏🏼🙏🏼
My Nuphy Air75 V2 with brown switches should be arriving tomorrow. I had bought a Keychron K1 SE (red optical switches) as my first mechanical but frankly hated it. Super excited for the Nuphy!!!
I have Nuphy Air75 V2 and Keychron K3 Pro. I love everything about Nuphy while Keychron is easier to carry around and its keycaps give me better typing experience. I wish I could combine them together.
As an owner of the K3 Pro, I agree about the typing experience. Keycaps are great quality and I prefer them to the Nuphys I've tried, though I also wish they were a flat profile.
I keep seeing complaints about nuphy connection and keystrokes double registering etc and customer support looks bad...is this true ? I was a few clicks away from buying it
I'd say that happens, but only via Bluetooth and I think it most happens in environments with so many BT devices. It's also a very rare thing, and in most cases is cured by firmware updates. Nuphy Support is very good. I can attest to that because I have dealt with them 1st hand, and many times. They are very good when you contact them via email.
Would love to get a NuPhy Air75 V2 but it's not available in Europe and also not in an ISO layout. It boggles my mind why these companies don't want our European money. First ISO layout white 75 low profile keyboard available in EU gets my money.
Nuphy ships to Europe. I recently saw in the FB group someone who had theirs shipped to Germany, arrived in 2 weeks, IIRC and no taxes! Just get one. The Enter key in the ANSI layout isn't that bad afterall.
@@MDx9619 there are several discount codes that you can use that give you 10% off the price. Such a discount can then cover your shipping costs. Do you see the logic? For example, with SEMIPRO as the code you will save 10% (13USD) with Air75v2, which then means your shipping cost would be equivalent to 12USD because of that discount. And you can use these codes over and over! So go right ahead and get your Air75v2 or Air96v2.
Hi, I would like to share my experience with low profile keyboards. I bought a Keychron K3 pro and was impressed with it but missed the 2.4GHz dongle. I rethought everything and returned the keychron. My alternative I bought was the NuPhy Air75 V2. Now comes the big "BUT". The NuPhy could not pair at all with either device via bluetooth. I tried updating the keyboard, and no improvement. I wrote to support, but when they found out I bought the keyboard through a subcontractor they didn't want to deal with it. I'm very disappointed and from what I've read on Reddit I'm not alone. A lot of people have had horrible experiences with NuPhy support. I'm thinking pretty strongly about the Keychron K3 MAX.
There is no Ins key by default on the K3 Max, and the Del key is in a different location. You could reprogram it, but you'd still have to hunt up a keycap for the Ins key. So who cares? Most people don't use the Ins key for anything. Well, neither did I, until recently, using JetBrains IDEs for development, the Alt-Ins keystroke is surprisingly useful for generating various code snippets in the code file. Migrating from a standard layout keyboard to 75%, I don't like the idea of giving up a key. For that reason, I would give the edge to the Nuphy. Probably a dumb reason.
Hello. Thanks for the comparison. So I want to change my setting in the office, replacing the wired keyboard and mouse. For a keyboard, I'll go for the Nuphy Air75 V2. But since Nuphy doesn't offer a mouse - what would you recommend? Also - which switch on Nuphy Air75 V2 provides a typing experience the closest to MacBook? At home, I use a MacBook Air M2 and love it. Thank you in advance
Is there still any spacebar rattle in the Nuphy Air75 V2? I have the V1 which has a little bit of rattle every now & then and was thinking of upgrading.
I got the nuphy Air75 v2, I love it, sounds amazing with cowberry switches. I will be buying the shinethrough keycaps at a later point. For those who are moving from a full size keyboard, I do miss the numpad :( I have been working without since but lots of applications I use could certainly use a numpad (blender for 3d, I do alot of invoices for my clients... so I constantly reach for the numpad). While great for gaming I think ill also buy a nuphy air96 for work now that im totally hooked on their product. For gaming I love the 75% size, cant complain at all. I previously used an alienware mechanical full size cherry keyboard, the nuphy is so much better in sound, quality, and thanks to @SemiPro's reviews I do believe the best sounding thoccy low profile keyboard, I love it!
Yes, Nuphy is faaar louder compared to the k3 max (and even k3 pro). Might have to do with they design and the switches; but since the cowberry ones are linear and browns tactile the former ones should be quieter, which clearly isn't the case.
I’d classify the sounds the opposite way 😂. To me Nuphy is thockier, lower frequencies and Keychron is clacky, lighter higher sounds which I personally enjoy less. But I was thinking it’d be great for office because it’s quieter
I received the Air75 v2 end of last week, with Wisteria switches. The typing experience is great. They are the perfect tactile switches. Very low noise and the bump is low resistance and after you travel a bit. I tried the other switches that came with it. Moss has a far higher resistance and the actuation point is at the beginning, so you need quite more strength to type with them, which I could tell would make me tired much more quickly. What in the end happened is that I sent the board back and am getting the same one with the linear Cowberry switches. They are great for typing AND gaming (even with the light bump Wisteria switches are too noisy and too slow when using WASD to play) and even lower tone/noise. They also have a very light actuation point at the beginning and when you bottom out they are a bit 'cushioned', unlike the Aloe ones that are extremely loose and bottom out very fast by pretty much just touching them.
@@Stinger913 agree, except the office part. None of these switches are really suitable for that, unless colleagues enjoy listening or it anyway a noisy env. I guess one could modify them or simply buy different switches (not sure how many low profile options are available.)
Great review! Although, you're not commenting on which keyboard is more silent independently on how nice it sounds plus you don't mention which produces less typos. In my experience with keyboards that have flat keys, like nuphy, it's easier to make typos because you accidentally press neighbouring keys. On the other hand I know keychron uses angled keycaps which again in my experience are better for typing and produce less typos. I'd like to listen to your opinion on those two points! Thanks! Edit: You're also not mentioning that you can get the K3 Max with white led and no hot swap for just 94 dollars which is quite less than Nuphy! Some people might prefer that!
Hi! I did actually say that the K3 Max also comes in a cheaper version with white backlight and non-hot swap switches at 10:33. But I focused on comparing the RGB hot-swap version because the Air75 V2 is only available in that configuration. In terms of sound level, the K3 Max in general is a bit quieter, but neither one is silent in any of the available configurations - you would have to find some silent low profile switches for either one to truly minimize the sound. The K3 Max with linear switches is probably the quietest overall. In terms of the keycaps, I did not personally notice a difference in my rate of errors between them, and I believe keycap profile is almost entirely down to personal preference. I actually prefer flatter keycaps for low profile keyboards and don't find a significant difference in the amount of errors after a short adjustment period.
@@semiprotech Thank you very much for the lengthy reply! I've seen some other people complaining about typos on flat keycaps. Maybe it has to do with preference but lets take into account that most normal profile (non low profile) keyboards are OEM or Cherry profile which have angled keycaps, so most people are used in angled keycaps in the first place. It's a pitty that such portable keyboards are not that quiet since many people will buy them to use at work. Maybe we'll start seeing silent low profile switches in the future.
I got the K3 Pro not too long ago, it's very good but I miss the USB 2.4GHz dongle on the max and switches really need lube. Air75 v2 looks much better but has no ISO.
Why is this Video so dark? It surely isn't just for me, is it? I originally thought there was something wrong with my screen but other videos are completely fine. While this is surely fine when watching at night or a dark room, at daylight or a fully lit room this as quite stressing on my eyes. Man, this is just bad. The detail shots are watchable but whenever you're on screen talking it's really bothersome to watch. No, not because of you, but because it looks like I was wearing really dark shades. Not sure I can make it through the video like this even if I'd be interested in what you have to say.
"over 200 hours of use so you can definitely go over a month of use" ??? That's just over a week... Both keyboards have terrible battery life. My old Logitech lasts over a year on AA batteries.
@@lornelorne5727 you don’t use the keyboard for 24 hours per day - an average of 8 hours use per day means 200 hours lasts around 25 days, and if you use it less on weekends that easily gets you a month or a little longer. Logitech and other brands that prioritize battery life use proprietary firmware or ZMK that is maximized for efficiency. QMK firmware, which both of these keyboards have, is maximized for user customization and is much less power-efficient. Having high polling rates also reduces battery life. It all depends on what your priorities are.
I just checked my "held for review" comments but didn't see any, sometimes RUclips does some weird stuff with comment filtering for no apparent reason though.
Nuphy Canadian price are a ripoff and that shows what the company is about. If I order from there website that’s in USD and converted to Canadian it’s way cheaper like 50% then there Amazon Canada price really 370$ cad :( Canada Keychron k3 max =137 Nuphy air75 = 370 USA Nuphy air75 = 175$ usd converted to Canadian 217cad
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Based on your past reviews, I purchased the NuPhy Air75 V2 with the Gateron brown switches. Since this is my first mechanical keyboard, I have nothing to compare it to. The experience using it is better than expected. I'm sure I made the right choice. Thanks for the chance to win the Keychron K3 Max.
Your videos are awesome dude. I tested a couple low profile keyboards that I could find at the local bestbuy and went down the rabbit hole looking for something higher quality after liking the low profile setup. Just bought an Air75 V2! Super excited for it to show up. Super high quality videos on here. Good work!
Thank you so much! I hope you enjoy the Air75 V2!
Such a good comparison, thank you so much!
Thanks!
I got a Keychron K3 Max (hot-swappable) with Gateron red switches and it's been great. It's noticeably quieter than my previous normal profile keyboard (also red switches) and sounds incredibly satisfying. Not too worried about the battery life because it still lasts for weeks without the backlight, and I use the provided adapter to place the 2.4G receiver nearby so plugging it in takes less than a second.
@@sys-administrator It's basically instant with 2.4G or wired, although I have a habit of spamming the space bar when I unlock my PC. Never used the Bluetooth mode but I've heard that the Bluetooth issues in K3V2 are fixed in Max
My K3 Max space bar does not rattle at all. Thanks for your reviews.
As of July 2024 Keychron offers a UK ISO. I'd practically settled on the Keychron K3 M until you mentioned the lack of Shine Through caps. If I could combine the two together, I'd have exactly what I'm looking for.
Great video. Thank you.
I own Keychron's K1 Max and use the shine-through keycaps from Nuphy and they all fitted well except for the right Shift key where Keychron's is longer so the Nuphy one leaves a bad gap. However, looking at the K3 M, the Nuphy shine-through keycaps will fit quite well. Also, the Nuphy switches for their low-profile KBs will work very well with the K3 M as the LEDs are north-facing in both the K3 M and the Air series from Nuphy, so you can go for the Nuphy Cowberry switches too. They sound so nice. I hope this helps you.
I picked the Air75v2. I really do like the floating key cap style but the NuPhy just seems like a better experience for my first mechanical keyboard.
I got Aloe switches in it and added some browns extra. Also grabbed those shine through key caps. Which is a nice perk of going with the NuPhy order is grabbing that stuff while you're there.
Waiting on delivery from China. Lol Amazon doesn't have the caps or switches for the price you get from NuPhy. Now the aloes.
I agree to what others are saying.. this is sooo underrated channel. Your reviews are awesome & very detailed.. definitely earned a sub here 👌
I'm new to mech KBs & was torn between the Air 75 V2 vs K3 Max. Thanks to you I now know what I need for my home setup! Ordered the Air 75 V2 with cowberry switches + shine through keycaps. Thanks again! Hope you get more subs 👏🏼🙏🏼
What an underrated channel. This should be > 100k subs. Top quality friend
you are right!
My Nuphy Air75 V2 with brown switches should be arriving tomorrow.
I had bought a Keychron K1 SE (red optical switches) as my first mechanical but frankly hated it.
Super excited for the Nuphy!!!
I hope you love it!
How are you finding the nuphy? I purchased the keychron k1 as my first keyboard too, and was considering the upgrade.
you're doing a great job with these videos! thank you, buddy )
I ordered the nuphy v2 w/ cowberries based on the sound test alone
Great work; thank you 😊.
I have Nuphy Air75 V2 and Keychron K3 Pro. I love everything about Nuphy while Keychron is easier to carry around and its keycaps give me better typing experience. I wish I could combine them together.
Could you please share your experience with Keychron K3 Pro? I think it's low-profile keyboard?
As an owner of the K3 Pro, I agree about the typing experience. Keycaps are great quality and I prefer them to the Nuphys I've tried, though I also wish they were a flat profile.
I keep seeing complaints about nuphy connection and keystrokes double registering etc and customer support looks bad...is this true ? I was a few clicks away from buying it
I'd say that happens, but only via Bluetooth and I think it most happens in environments with so many BT devices. It's also a very rare thing, and in most cases is cured by firmware updates. Nuphy Support is very good. I can attest to that because I have dealt with them 1st hand, and many times. They are very good when you contact them via email.
Would love to get a NuPhy Air75 V2 but it's not available in Europe and also not in an ISO layout. It boggles my mind why these companies don't want our European money. First ISO layout white 75 low profile keyboard available in EU gets my money.
Nuphy ships to Europe. I recently saw in the FB group someone who had theirs shipped to Germany, arrived in 2 weeks, IIRC and no taxes! Just get one. The Enter key in the ANSI layout isn't that bad afterall.
@@odhiambo0 They ship to Europe, but for example to Bulgaria is 25USD, which is a lot, equal to almost 50BGN
@@MDx9619 there are several discount codes that you can use that give you 10% off the price. Such a discount can then cover your shipping costs. Do you see the logic? For example, with SEMIPRO as the code you will save 10% (13USD) with Air75v2, which then means your shipping cost would be equivalent to 12USD because of that discount. And you can use these codes over and over! So go right ahead and get your Air75v2 or Air96v2.
@@odhiambo0I don't care about ANSI, its that they don't have å ä ö key caps that is shit.
@@Zlukenyou can map those keys using VIA. Actually, you can map any character you want!
What switches were you testing in this video on the NuPhy?
It was the cowberry linear switches
@@semiprotechthank you!
Could you do the Keychron V1 max vs the Nuphy Halo75?
Or which you would recommend
I'm waiting for this too
Hi, I would like to share my experience with low profile keyboards. I bought a Keychron K3 pro and was impressed with it but missed the 2.4GHz dongle. I rethought everything and returned the keychron.
My alternative I bought was the NuPhy Air75 V2. Now comes the big "BUT". The NuPhy could not pair at all with either device via bluetooth. I tried updating the keyboard, and no improvement. I wrote to support, but when they found out I bought the keyboard through a subcontractor they didn't want to deal with it.
I'm very disappointed and from what I've read on Reddit I'm not alone. A lot of people have had horrible experiences with NuPhy support.
I'm thinking pretty strongly about the Keychron K3 MAX.
누피 v2 의 최대 단점은 우측 쉬프트 에 스테빌라이저가 없어서 종종 튀어나오는 증상을 경험할수 있습니다.
It would be better to compare keyboards with similar type of switches. For me tactile switches are way better than linear.
There is no Ins key by default on the K3 Max, and the Del key is in a different location. You could reprogram it, but you'd still have to hunt up a keycap for the Ins key. So who cares? Most people don't use the Ins key for anything. Well, neither did I, until recently, using JetBrains IDEs for development, the Alt-Ins keystroke is surprisingly useful for generating various code snippets in the code file. Migrating from a standard layout keyboard to 75%, I don't like the idea of giving up a key. For that reason, I would give the edge to the Nuphy. Probably a dumb reason.
Your hat is awesome. Where did you get it?
Does nuphy ship to india?
Hello. Thanks for the comparison. So I want to change my setting in the office, replacing the wired keyboard and mouse. For a keyboard, I'll go for the Nuphy Air75 V2. But since Nuphy doesn't offer a mouse - what would you recommend?
Also - which switch on Nuphy Air75 V2 provides a typing experience the closest to MacBook? At home, I use a MacBook Air M2 and love it.
Thank you in advance
any details on wake up time? does it take awhile for the keyboard to wake up?
I know Keychron had issues with other models not waking up, but my Keychron K3 Max wakes up instantly with any key press so far.
What is the weight difference between those two?
The K3 Max weighs 525g and the Air75 V2 weighs 598g.
Is there still any spacebar rattle in the Nuphy Air75 V2? I have the V1 which has a little bit of rattle every now & then and was thinking of upgrading.
I have a K3 Max White Backlight and I can’t change the speed of light effects? Is this standard for a white backlight version?
I got the nuphy Air75 v2, I love it, sounds amazing with cowberry switches. I will be buying the shinethrough keycaps at a later point. For those who are moving from a full size keyboard, I do miss the numpad :( I have been working without since but lots of applications I use could certainly use a numpad (blender for 3d, I do alot of invoices for my clients... so I constantly reach for the numpad). While great for gaming I think ill also buy a nuphy air96 for work now that im totally hooked on their product. For gaming I love the 75% size, cant complain at all. I previously used an alienware mechanical full size cherry keyboard, the nuphy is so much better in sound, quality, and thanks to @SemiPro's reviews I do believe the best sounding thoccy low profile keyboard, I love it!
I find Keychron to have a more refined typing experience. Nuphy is too clackety, not entirely resolved in the V2.
Yes, Nuphy is faaar louder compared to the k3 max (and even k3 pro). Might have to do with they design and the switches; but since the cowberry ones are linear and browns tactile the former ones should be quieter, which clearly isn't the case.
I’d classify the sounds the opposite way 😂. To me Nuphy is thockier, lower frequencies and Keychron is clacky, lighter higher sounds which I personally enjoy less. But I was thinking it’d be great for office because it’s quieter
I received the Air75 v2 end of last week, with Wisteria switches. The typing experience is great. They are the perfect tactile switches. Very low noise and the bump is low resistance and after you travel a bit. I tried the other switches that came with it. Moss has a far higher resistance and the actuation point is at the beginning, so you need quite more strength to type with them, which I could tell would make me tired much more quickly.
What in the end happened is that I sent the board back and am getting the same one with the linear Cowberry switches. They are great for typing AND gaming (even with the light bump Wisteria switches are too noisy and too slow when using WASD to play) and even lower tone/noise. They also have a very light actuation point at the beginning and when you bottom out they are a bit 'cushioned', unlike the Aloe ones that are extremely loose and bottom out very fast by pretty much just touching them.
@@Stinger913 agree, except the office part. None of these switches are really suitable for that, unless colleagues enjoy listening or it anyway a noisy env. I guess one could modify them or simply buy different switches (not sure how many low profile options are available.)
the switch for both come pre-lube?
yes, both use switches that are pre-lubed
The more I look at these, the more I feel a need for custom keycaps.
Not just the labels, but the SHAPE is wrong (for me).
Again, shine-through should be the default key caps. This situation is a joke.
Nuphy shine-through keycaps are not pbt and fills very cheap.
Great review! Although, you're not commenting on which keyboard is more silent independently on how nice it sounds plus you don't mention which produces less typos. In my experience with keyboards that have flat keys, like nuphy, it's easier to make typos because you accidentally press neighbouring keys. On the other hand I know keychron uses angled keycaps which again in my experience are better for typing and produce less typos. I'd like to listen to your opinion on those two points! Thanks!
Edit: You're also not mentioning that you can get the K3 Max with white led and no hot swap for just 94 dollars which is quite less than Nuphy! Some people might prefer that!
Hi! I did actually say that the K3 Max also comes in a cheaper version with white backlight and non-hot swap switches at 10:33. But I focused on comparing the RGB hot-swap version because the Air75 V2 is only available in that configuration. In terms of sound level, the K3 Max in general is a bit quieter, but neither one is silent in any of the available configurations - you would have to find some silent low profile switches for either one to truly minimize the sound. The K3 Max with linear switches is probably the quietest overall. In terms of the keycaps, I did not personally notice a difference in my rate of errors between them, and I believe keycap profile is almost entirely down to personal preference. I actually prefer flatter keycaps for low profile keyboards and don't find a significant difference in the amount of errors after a short adjustment period.
@@semiprotech Thank you very much for the lengthy reply! I've seen some other people complaining about typos on flat keycaps. Maybe it has to do with preference but lets take into account that most normal profile (non low profile) keyboards are OEM or Cherry profile which have angled keycaps, so most people are used in angled keycaps in the first place. It's a pitty that such portable keyboards are not that quiet since many people will buy them to use at work. Maybe we'll start seeing silent low profile switches in the future.
The Halo should have a V2 like the AIR does
Now NuPhy just needs to start releasing ISO layouts (including the one for Germany) :/
I got the K3 Pro not too long ago, it's very good but I miss the USB 2.4GHz dongle on the max and switches really need lube. Air75 v2 looks much better but has no ISO.
European? 🙂
Why your video is so dark?
Why is this Video so dark? It surely isn't just for me, is it? I originally thought there was something wrong with my screen but other videos are completely fine. While this is surely fine when watching at night or a dark room, at daylight or a fully lit room this as quite stressing on my eyes. Man, this is just bad. The detail shots are watchable but whenever you're on screen talking it's really bothersome to watch. No, not because of you, but because it looks like I was wearing really dark shades. Not sure I can make it through the video like this even if I'd be interested in what you have to say.
K3 LED - GOOD
K3 RGB - NOTBAD
K3 PRO - BAD
K3 MAX - SAVEMONEY
"over 200 hours of use so you can definitely go over a month of use" ??? That's just over a week... Both keyboards have terrible battery life. My old Logitech lasts over a year on AA batteries.
@@lornelorne5727 you don’t use the keyboard for 24 hours per day - an average of 8 hours use per day means 200 hours lasts around 25 days, and if you use it less on weekends that easily gets you a month or a little longer. Logitech and other brands that prioritize battery life use proprietary firmware or ZMK that is maximized for efficiency. QMK firmware, which both of these keyboards have, is maximized for user customization and is much less power-efficient. Having high polling rates also reduces battery life. It all depends on what your priorities are.
They sound so trash compared to lofree
For some reason I cannot post comments under this video? UPD: but I can reply to this comment I tried to post for test... Weird
I just checked my "held for review" comments but didn't see any, sometimes RUclips does some weird stuff with comment filtering for no apparent reason though.
@@semiprotech Huh, good to know. Thanks.
Nuphy Canadian price are a ripoff and that shows what the company is about. If I order from there website that’s in USD and converted to Canadian it’s way cheaper like 50% then there Amazon Canada price really 370$ cad :(
Canada
Keychron k3 max =137
Nuphy air75 = 370
USA
Nuphy air75 = 175$ usd converted to Canadian 217cad