No, they won’t, they don’t have that confidence, it feels like posey gave them more confidence and Crawford just had a weird year and yastremski is underperforming with a 91 ops+, and Brandon belt isn’t doing anything. 2022 giants will never be the same.
As an unbiased Braves fan, I really don’t know how the Hell in Hell the Giants won 107 games last year. With that said, I did expect them to win right around 90 this year. They should be back to 85-90 wins next year.
Considering the Giants as well as the Red Sox have a tradition of being contenders one year, being abysmal the next, then being contenders again the following year, I feel like next year will be the real test for both clubs.
That's true for the Giants but it's not quite as accurate for the Red Sox. Start with each team's first title in this century... Giants... 2010: World Series title 2011: Missed postseason 2012: World Series title 2013: Missed postseason 2014: World Series title 2015: Missed postseason 2016: NLDS appearance 2017: Missed postseason 2018: Missed postseason 2019: Missed postseason 2020: Missed postseason 2021: NLDS appearance 2022: Missed postseason Red Sox... 2004: World Series title 2005: ALDS appearance 2006: Missed postseason 2007: World Series title 2008: ALCS appearance 2009: ALDS appearance 2010: Missed postseason 2011: Missed postseason 2012: Missed postseason 2013: World Series title 2014: Missed postseason 2015: Missed postseason 2016: ALDS appearance 2017: ALDS appearance 2018: World Series title 2019: Missed postseason 2020: Missed postseason 2021: ALCS appearance 2022: Missed postseason As you can see, the Red Sox have made the postseason in consecutive years several times. The Giants have not.
@@TheGhostOfBucketCat this was diferent this wasnt a dinasty wasnt a dominant team it was Just getting hot at the right tiene. No one put those teams in a special place
Coming from a Giants fan, this is the year I expected last year. With Posey coming off of an off year and guys like Gausman and Webb being unknown it surprised me a lot to see the success. Can’t say I didn’t expect this kind of season. Just glad we still have pitching and hopefully a GM that will make moves this offseason
As a giants fan you hit the nail on the head. Belt, Crawford and no Posey have made the offense look lost at sea in most games. I hope they right the ship. As for Kapler I still think he’s the guy, but not even a great manager can help regression as much as the giants have had this year. Look at Bochys last few years.
Buster Posey led them to 3 Championships. He's a HOF catcher. Goes to show you how important leadership is. And that's something you don't see in stats.
As a giants fan last year was an amazing year and I think that this giants fall really started when posey retired and I think it shows how good Posey was and how good of a leader he was for the Giants. Giants won 3 in 5 years with posey. The Giants have been lacking leadership all season.
Yeah I feel the same way. Posey was such a huge positive influence on the whole team. A great leader and a true winner. I also felt like our pitchers just didn't seem quite as comfortable without Posey behind the dish this year.
They don’t seem to have a direction at all. They have a bunch of players no one wants to watch, they don’t draft well, they have made bad trades, the manager is uninspiring, they just seem lost. I can see why Judge said no. They just don’t have any direction at all. 500 is no place.
Im no Giants fan, nor a Dodgers fan and maybe this comes out as insensitive. But its hard to feel bad for the Giants knowing they have 3, yes THREE titles just in the last decade. Its hard to feel bad for a fanbase with that much glory. Not even the Dodgers have won like that despite their constant run at the division titles. Try being a fan of any other fanbase whose team hasnt won anything since the start of 2000.
It’s obvious, Posey retiring affected this lineup. He was the captain of the group and just like when a great manager in a regular workplace leaves and is replaced with a random new manager, chances are there will be no chemistry between the workers and new manager. In a nutshell, Posey was the cool manager that left the workplace, now being replaced by either no one or someone that not everyone agrees with.
Great video, go Giants! One of the things that stood out to me about the 2021 season was the loss of Brandon Belt to injury. He was playing at an elite level. He would have been a huge difference maker in the series against the Dodgers.
To be honest, I thought that Kapler taking Littell down to the clubhouse, away from cameras, to rip his ass was a classy and professional move. Players get frustrated at managers, especially when they have bad performances, it happens... What Gabe did spared him the embarrassment of getting chewed out on live television and was a solid managerial move.
So you mean to tell me that a bunch of veteran players having career years at the exact same time isn't a sustainable business model? Who could've guessed.
As a braves fan, I'll always give credit to the giants for their part in Atlanta's WS win. Without the giants winning the division Atlanta definitely would've had a lot more difficult task to beat L.A. when they'd have home field advantage
Giants certainly did their job in preventing us going back to back last year and giving ATL home field. Let’s see who wins in the NLCS this year between us two (Im taking ATL over the Mets for the division)
Not to mention the chase led to a lot of our guys getting injured. If the Giants played like they had in 2019, then most likely there’s less pressure on the Dodgers so potentially both Max Muncy and Clayton Kershaw stay healthy and available for October
Stuff like this happens in baseball. A team where average players have career years at the same time and it cause the team to become elite. It happened to the 2014, 2015 Royals when they won two pennants and 1 world series. The problem is that once those players return to their "real" form then that team just falls for what it seems out of nowhere.
A team where average players have career years at the same time and it cause the team to become elite doesn't happen, without some help. 2014/2015 royals teams were cheating with video system.. not sure how the gnats were doing it but anyone that has followed baseball knows that a team of scrubs with posey and some good pitching all of a sudden collectively have best seasons of their careers. One washed up has been having miracle season makes you wonder .. the whole team at one time.. sorry, been watching, playing, coaching, managing baseball too long to believe it.
The signpoint for the season (for me) was the series in Philly. The Giants won the 1st 2 & the Phils the Sunday game. They canned their mgr the next day - 7 games under .500. I think the Giants were 6-7 above. Two entirely different teams after that.
The Giants were expected to have a better showing this season with their offense lacking in certain areas. Still, with lots of potential, the Giants may send some shockwaves into the media if they some holes are filled!
The Giants don't have an ace right now. While Carlos Rodon and Logan Webb are very good starters they are not ace quality. They are both top tier 2 spot pitchers. Their next best starting pitcher is Alex Cobb and he is an okay 3 spot pitcher, then it is Alex Wood and he has only been a good 4 spot pitcher because of his massive inconsistency issues. The Giants don't have a single reasonable starter other than those 4 which is why they have been having so many bullpen games lately. While Doval is a great up and coming reliever, he is still growing into pitching in the majors. The only other bullpen pitcher that the Giants have that is consistently good is Brebia. Everyone else in the Bullpen for the Giants is too inconsistent this year. While Rogers is good for 2 quick outs every time he goes up to the plate, after 2 the batters have adjusted to his style and if he doesn't get lucky with a ground ball he struggles to get a third out. When it comes to hitting the Giants have always been a streaky team. This year the streaks haven't lined up. A lot of the problem with the Giants offensive has also come with the transition away from small ball into long ball only, which is a mistake in their ballpark. Their park is designed for a lineup with 2 long ball hitters and 7 hitters that are doing all they can to get on base and mess with the pitcher once there. That type of line up is how they won 3 Pennants in 5 years. 2 players who could go yard consistently and 5 or 6 who could get on base a lot with good starters and an excellent bullpen. The giants have too many players trying to go long and no support from the bullpen. In order for the Giants to be good they need to accept that for the next 4 or 5 seasons they will suck while they stock their farm system with talent so they can have another amazing 6 or 7 seasons before they repeat stocking their farm system again.
Thats a pretty good analysis of whats going on. I remember thinking last year, even during our great season, that relying on the homerun is not sustainable at all. And as predicted, it all came crashing down this year. Bruce Bochey knew and understood how to win with the Giants and it wasn't with the long ball. Losing the leadership and the huge positive influence that Buster Posey had didn't help this year either. I can almost sense that our pitchers just don't look quite as comfortable without Posey behind the dish.
@@jayboley9683 He isn't a Madison Bumgardner in his prime, he isn't a Tim Lincecum in his prime. Carlos Rodon is a great starting pitcher, but he doesn't have that something extra that makes him completely dominate on the mound almost every time he gets on it. I've seen Carlos Rodon dominate in a game before, but most of the time he is pitching you can see his control isn't even above 90%. He misses where he wants to put the ball a good 10% of the time and it is only luck that those pitches aren't slammed out of the park. Numbers aren't everything when it comes to evaluating the quality of a player. Carlos Rodon isn't an ace, but he is a fantastic starting pitcher that can hold the 2 spot in the rotation behind an ace and almost guarantee you the win in a series. For your starting pitcher lineup you want an ace in your 1 spot, and Rodon is not an ace.
@@E_xe2 but didn’t all the MLB teams play baseball that year ? Just because there was no fans doesn’t mean there wasn’t pressure on the players to perform !
Well whatever delusions you can believe in, the facts is: Dodgers didn't play ONE WS game in Chavez Ravine. Chavez Ravine STILL hasn't seen a WS winning team since 1988 LMAO The asterisk STAYS
2021 just seemed like a fluke performance out of a lot of their guys. I don't think Kapler is the problem, and at least deserves another season to right ship. The front office has to carry some of the blame here. There's just not a ton of talent when you compare them to the Dodgers or Padres, and the front office decided to pretend like 2021 was the norm and not the exception when it came to filling the holes. I love Joc, but if he's your best hitter there's a problem.
As a Phillies fan and a fan of gabe kapler. I was impressed last year with the giants but this year they didnt do well . I hope they can rebound next year
Fantastic video. Man do I miss Posey. Giants need to sign a legit star next year. This year they have been running on fumes. Tough to compete with the Dodgers (who feel like an all-star team that just happens to wear the same uniform). One thing your video confused a bit: the reliever Littell’s name is not pronounced “little” but more like the toymaker “Mattel”.
As a Giants fan, last year was amazing for sure, but I'm starting to think we need to rebuild for reals this time. There's definitely some pieces there but the core (the offensive one in particular) just isn't the same
Us giants fans weren’t expecting to repeat last year but were hoping to make the playoffs. The only person I can see the giants signing this off-season is judge but that is going to be very hard. Another bullpen arm might be good and hopefully calling up prospects like Heliot Ramos, David Villar, and Luis Gonzales might turn it around for us. But we also need guys like Joey Bart and Mike Yastrzemski to step up and Brandon Crawford, Brandon belt, or Evan Longoria to fill in posey’s leadership role
Belt? As much as I like the dude, but he’s hurt way too often to be a starting guy. Crawford has to step it up, both offense and defense took a hit and he’s not getting any younger.
If it was Kapler, there would be a lot more incidents about it. Just think the loss of Posey was a big thing for them. A lot of people admitted he was the captain/leader of the squad throughout the years. A loss like that takes some time to get over, but as long as someone steps up in the last few games/next year, we should see something similar.
@@bretmurphy5495 Meh. Depends on the team. I think he's best as a manager for a team trying to rebuild or an older team that already knows what they are doing. In other words, don't really mind or care for him.
Ok I’ll tell you why they fell off. They didn’t sign Gausman along with Rodon. They didn’t sign Rizzo, Freeman or Schwarber to replace belt, they didn’t try to sign seager, story or semien. That says a lot man. When you can’t buy literal pieces that can fix the holes. Farhan is who to blame because 2022 should have been championing or bust. He’s a dodger plant
They still have some interesting pieces in Webb, Yas, Wade, Desclafani, Cobb, and Wood and Joc. Need some more real bats since several of their offensive spots are platoon options
Something that was completely missed and was by far the biggest single factor in the 2022 Giants fall from grace was the DEFENSE. Advanced Metrics placed the 21 Giants anywhere from 12th to (I think) 7th in defensive runs saved and Outs above average while the 22 Giants were ranked 28th or 29th in baseball. The pitching was a LOT better than we saw because we just couldn't field this year. The offense is also a LOT more complicated than explained here as the Giants were consistently top 10 in runs scored this year but this was at the cost of ALL defensive viability and we were also too dependant on platoon advantages to make up for the loss of star bats so this led to extreme inconsistency all year. It was either feast or famine and our trash defense needed all those runs to win.
Right?! The Giants are known for their defense! That they get the little things (like routine groundouts and flyballs) right. This year it's been hard to watch error after error!
I understand about the offense - but the defense was and is pretty bad, too. Idk about this but I'm pretty sure that Crawford had more errors in the first half of 2022 than he did all of 2021. There have been rumors of "optional batting practice" too. Overall, I'm sorta disappointed, but just look at how things have been in the past - on one year, off one year. idk
Giants had the same team they had last year except for Joc and Rodon, was surprised they fell off this fast, Crawford and Yastrzemski haven’t been the same either
@@13gocrazy The Dodgers???? 🤣🤣🤣 rightio mate. Not everyone can buy Betts, Freeman and Turner. Take away those guys and you pricks wouldn't even have 90 wins
It's weird, I've kind of just completely forgotten about the existence of the Giants this year. I feel like there's literally no one even talking about them. Anytime I see something about them I'm like "oh yeah, they ARE a team still"
This was NOT the first time in history that the Dodgers and Giants would play in the post season. 1962 season ends with both teams tied for first in the NL. A three game playoff gets SF into the World Series, where they lost to the Yanks.
The Dodgers get to the post season every year. Have the highest payroll and for what? 1 *WS win? The Giants have won 3 WS under the Posey Dynasty. Who are the real winners here?
Agreed 100 percent...and I'm not a fan of either team. Hopefully teams that Dodgers fans hate will win championships in the near future...Braves, Giants, Padres, etc...
@@87Khein lmaoo ohh you’re just a Dodger hater 😂😂 I wonder what they did to hurt you so bad, or maybe you’re just upset you’re not from the greatest city in the US. Cry more 😂😂😂
Can you make a video about the Brewers? As a Brewer fan, I would like to know why we haven't created what we did in 2021. I know our pitching staff hasn't been the best, but that's the only thing I want to say without getting fact checked...
Giants should have moved on after last year and found someone internal. I think his job he did with the Phils was horrible, especially since they made it to the WS with not a lot of changes.
It most certainly didn’t help. But we can’t overlook the giants inability to draft and develop over the last couple of years. Whereare lincecums, Bums, Cains, Poseys, Crawfords, Paniks, Sandovals, etc been???
A major issue with the Giants is their division. They play in a division with 2 of the 5 highest spending teams. If they played in the NL Central or AL West, they would be way better. Personally I am not too satisfied with a .500 finish considering how much less they spend.
The giants had the luckiest season from a pro sports franchise last year. Props to them for what they achieved but they had so many players overachieve. The Dodgers are their daddy
Giants- 3 world series Dodgers- 250 million dollars and nothing to show for it + Giants lead the all time head to head. Who's the father in this situation again 🤔
Two major contributing factors you didn't mention: the abysmal fielding, which chewed up the pitching staff at times and magnified the lack of scoring; and Farhan Zaidi and the journeyman-heavy roster of marginal players he assembled. Zaidi owns a lot of the mediocrity and sub-mediocrity of this team. You cannot win in MLB with a roster of platoon players. Channeling Billy Beane circa 2002, Zaidi thought he cracked the code with 2021 and was proven wrong. Sitting on a pile of cash, he spent like it was coming out of his own paycheck. Ownership has seemed to prioritize their real estate development deals over respecting their extremely loyal fan base and status as a legacy franchise. A bitterly disappointing season on all fronts.
@@87Khein Yeah...in the 1st half of '21 the starters were outstanding. In the 2nd half - excepting Webb - not so much but the Pen was better than the 1st half so that made up for it. Very true about 1 run games. The focus tends to be on that since it's the most variable stat from year to year. That's why I focus more on runs scored/given up. As of today they are 14-61 in games scoring 3 or less, last year it was 22-38. Inc'l 13 wins where they scored 3 & 6 when they scored 2 (19-17 overall in those games vs. 13-38 this year). That sums it up pretty well I think.
But it’s not just one isolated incident with Kapler. I don’t think it’s any coincidence that the Giants started sliding this year right after Kapler made things about himself and started playing politics with his “views”.
Kepler has shown he is not a very good manager. He has one good fluke year. His tenure with the Phil’s was uninspired, players don’t like him. I doubt he last the year.
Unless I'm missing crucial information about the org, the Giants just aren't very good offensively and is the main reason for why they were so mediocre this season. They're hitters have managed to squander runs with RISPs several times. It was so thrilling to see them go on such a hot win streak at the beginning of the season. Seeing them start to falter and inevitably crash and burn just made me not to watch them anymore for the rest of the season because it was so painful to bear.
I rlly think it’s the age. Our players are old and towards the end of their carrier. I have a feeling we’re going to rebuild soon and repeat the triple crown we used to have.
The Giants has almost everyone having a career year in 21 and the problem with that was the expectations of a repeat that rarely happens in baseball. The pitching isn't good and there's a lot of old guys like Crawford and kids like Bart in that team. They might come back in 23 but wait and see what moves they make in the off-season.
Dodgers won bc they spent TONS of money and traded their prospects for top proven veterans, and they got Freeman for nothing! We stuck with mostly the same Pitchers and same line ups and what happened, everyone faded. Losing Posey & Gausman, were huge. Even though Gausman faded towards the end, he gave us quality starts. Clubhouse Presence is huge, Buster emanated winning and everyone in the clubhouse wanted to live up to it. I think we should have gotten Bart in to the lineup last year and made him the primary backup regular. Instead we made him the 22 starter, which made him feel the weight of filling in HOF shoes. Belt was injured as usual, Craw was off both offensively and defensively, Wade was hit with injury bug, and Yaz offensively seemed to decline bc he didn't have any bats in the lineup to protect him. I think the lack of youth and offense is hurting us, the infusion of young talent is what got us to those championship years as well as sustain it. International signings look good, but our MLB Amateur draft has not been producing yet, hopefully they will and the next Mad, Posey, or Lincecum, will be on the horizon. Wasn't impressed with this years Draft, hopefully, the prior ones will bear fruit. Look forward to next year Giants fans!
Giants have some big decisions to make they either need to rebuild and sell their current pieces or try to beef up their current roster with some more big free agent splashes, the Dbacks have been killing it in their rebuild and look to be a solid team next year and the Padres should be a contender again next year with Machado/Soto and Tatis after he finishes suspension. I Truly don't think they are set up to be better than either of those teams and that's not even mentioning LA.
After they had a couple really bad years in 17 and 18 I started to think they needed to blow it up and rebuild. Then they were the hottest team in baseball for a month in 2019 before fizzling out and missing the playoffs. This reinforced my theory that old teams just can’t compete with these younger ones (CC: 2018 Mariners vs 2022 Mariners). Now we are seeing why I was right. They might have had a crazy successful season last year but that simply is not sustainable for the future.
Given my son’s a Giants fan I do watch my fair share of games, and “fluke” is the wrong word, but literally everybody caught fire collectively. You typically can’t catch lighting in a bottle twice, especially with how loaded that Dodger lineup is in all aspects. I still think Kapler’s the guy, so long as Farhan keeps spending shrewdly.
As a Dodgers fan, I must say, I love when both teams are competitive because it adds to the storied rivalry. Not to say the rag tag group of giants besting the superstar laden dodgers isn’t a great story, but when both teams have stars its a better sell. That being said, I really hope the Giants go sign Aaron Judge. He’d be back home, Zaidi would have finally made a big free agent splash and the team would have someone to lead the franchise going forward. 6+ years of Betts vs Judge sounds great if you ask me.
I hate it when both teams are competitive because unlike the Dodgers the Giants actually develop their talent. But Dodgers fans love to ignore that and rave about Betts, Freeman and Turner guys who if the Giants had the Giants would win the division easily
Are you sure 2020 wasn't the hardest to win? I mean players had 100 less games to get injured or burned out playing. I know it's not football but that long of a season must wear on every player, so you would think you're more likely to be fresh. Just saying, no asterisks.
I see how people can say that. But there were also more teams to fight in post season because expanded playoffs too. Every team started with the same 0 wins and 0 losses.
And their was an extra round to. People forget about that and being in an extra round increases the chance for mess ups and unlikely players and teams to get hot and upset top dawgs.. dodgers could have easily got knocked out in that extra round given how much times they have messed up in the past especially a team like the brewers who have a history of giving the dodgers problems but they took care of business
Will the Giants be back in 2023?
No, they won’t, they don’t have that confidence, it feels like posey gave them more confidence and Crawford just had a weird year and yastremski is underperforming with a 91 ops+, and Brandon belt isn’t doing anything. 2022 giants will never be the same.
They were juicing last year
If they don’t get a superstar slugger than probably not
@@michaelbaucom4019 if they resign Joc and get a better backstop too….
As an unbiased Braves fan, I really don’t know how the Hell in Hell the Giants won 107 games last year. With that said, I did expect them to win right around 90 this year. They should be back to 85-90 wins next year.
Considering the Giants as well as the Red Sox have a tradition of being contenders one year, being abysmal the next, then being contenders again the following year, I feel like next year will be the real test for both clubs.
That's true for the Giants but it's not quite as accurate for the Red Sox. Start with each team's first title in this century...
Giants...
2010: World Series title
2011: Missed postseason
2012: World Series title
2013: Missed postseason
2014: World Series title
2015: Missed postseason
2016: NLDS appearance
2017: Missed postseason
2018: Missed postseason
2019: Missed postseason
2020: Missed postseason
2021: NLDS appearance
2022: Missed postseason
Red Sox...
2004: World Series title
2005: ALDS appearance
2006: Missed postseason
2007: World Series title
2008: ALCS appearance
2009: ALDS appearance
2010: Missed postseason
2011: Missed postseason
2012: Missed postseason
2013: World Series title
2014: Missed postseason
2015: Missed postseason
2016: ALDS appearance
2017: ALDS appearance
2018: World Series title
2019: Missed postseason
2020: Missed postseason
2021: ALCS appearance
2022: Missed postseason
As you can see, the Red Sox have made the postseason in consecutive years several times. The Giants have not.
Well thats only becose of those years of a fluke chips...2010 12 and 14 but before that giants got nada from 1950 to 2010
I’m not even a Giants fan but three titles in five years are not “fluke chips.”
@@marcor22044 lol winning the world series 3 times in 6 years is the opposite of a fluke. What a delusional take.
@@TheGhostOfBucketCat this was diferent this wasnt a dinasty wasnt a dominant team it was Just getting hot at the right tiene. No one put those teams in a special place
Coming from a Giants fan, this is the year I expected last year. With Posey coming off of an off year and guys like Gausman and Webb being unknown it surprised me a lot to see the success. Can’t say I didn’t expect this kind of season. Just glad we still have pitching and hopefully a GM that will make moves this offseason
Giants are definitely a team to watch this offseason.
Farhan will work his magic this offseason
@@JB-uu3oj Farhan will work his magic. The guy is a friggin bust. 4 years he's had and what do we have to show for it, one freak year is all.
@@andrewbell7579 Have faith my friend.
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As a giants fan you hit the nail on the head. Belt, Crawford and no Posey have made the offense look lost at sea in most games. I hope they right the ship. As for Kapler I still think he’s the guy, but not even a great manager can help regression as much as the giants have had this year. Look at Bochys last few years.
Buster Posey led them to 3 Championships. He's a HOF catcher. Goes to show you how important leadership is. And that's something you don't see in stats.
Exactly. And is it just me, or does it seem like our pitchers this year just didn't look quite as confident without Posey behind the dish??
Hall of famer for the Giants, not in MLB hall of fame lol
@@rvhx7213 We'll see.
As a giants fan last year was an amazing year and I think that this giants fall really started when posey retired and I think it shows how good Posey was and how good of a leader he was for the Giants. Giants won 3 in 5 years with posey. The Giants have been lacking leadership all season.
Yeah I feel the same way. Posey was such a huge positive influence on the whole team. A great leader and a true winner. I also felt like our pitchers just didn't seem quite as comfortable without Posey behind the dish this year.
They don’t seem to have a direction at all. They have a bunch of players no one wants to watch, they don’t draft well, they have made bad trades, the manager is uninspiring, they just seem lost. I can see why Judge said no. They just don’t have any direction at all. 500 is no place.
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Was fun to watch! always love seeing teams you didnt expect to be contenders have a solid season
I use to be out of touch with baseball this channel gave me the love for baseball back
This comment made my night!!! I'm so glad to hear this. Baseball is the best
I feel that way about jomboy
I can’t watch this video without falling to my knees in tears
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same bro
Im no Giants fan, nor a Dodgers fan and maybe this comes out as insensitive. But its hard to feel bad for the Giants knowing they have 3, yes THREE titles just in the last decade. Its hard to feel bad for a fanbase with that much glory. Not even the Dodgers have won like that despite their constant run at the division titles. Try being a fan of any other fanbase whose team hasnt won anything since the start of 2000.
Agreed. Giants and Red Sox fans don’t need any sympathy.
It’s obvious, Posey retiring affected this lineup. He was the captain of the group and just like when a great manager in a regular workplace leaves and is replaced with a random new manager, chances are there will be no chemistry between the workers and new manager. In a nutshell, Posey was the cool manager that left the workplace, now being replaced by either no one or someone that not everyone agrees with.
Bart tried but he can't even fill his own shoes right now let alone Posey's.
Good to see him support the warriors and 49ers that was pretty cool.
Great video, go Giants! One of the things that stood out to me about the 2021 season was the loss of Brandon Belt to injury. He was playing at an elite level. He would have been a huge difference maker in the series against the Dodgers.
If you’re a diehard Giants Fan The Success Won’t Surprise You it Only Surprised Those Who Doubted Us
To be honest, I thought that Kapler taking Littell down to the clubhouse, away from cameras, to rip his ass was a classy and professional move. Players get frustrated at managers, especially when they have bad performances, it happens... What Gabe did spared him the embarrassment of getting chewed out on live television and was a solid managerial move.
So you mean to tell me that a bunch of veteran players having career years at the exact same time isn't a sustainable business model? Who could've guessed.
This aged HORRIBLY
Well this aged like milk
No, THIS AGED LIKE MILK😂
Ayyy! Made it in a iTalk video. 7:55 I was in the top left with the white hat and sunglasses
As a braves fan, I'll always give credit to the giants for their part in Atlanta's WS win. Without the giants winning the division Atlanta definitely would've had a lot more difficult task to beat L.A. when they'd have home field advantage
And pitchers with live arms instead of dead one...but congrats...I'm more mad at giants...lol
Giants certainly did their job in preventing us going back to back last year and giving ATL home field. Let’s see who wins in the NLCS this year between us two (Im taking ATL over the Mets for the division)
@@perrywang689 The Braves probably won't repeat but they do have a good chance to win another title in this decade.
Not to mention the chase led to a lot of our guys getting injured. If the Giants played like they had in 2019, then most likely there’s less pressure on the Dodgers so potentially both Max Muncy and Clayton Kershaw stay healthy and available for October
@@perrywang689 Back to back? Who? The Nationals didn't even make the 2021 postseason how the fuck they going to go back to back?
Stuff like this happens in baseball. A team where average players have career years at the same time and it cause the team to become elite. It happened to the 2014, 2015 Royals when they won two pennants and 1 world series. The problem is that once those players return to their "real" form then that team just falls for what it seems out of nowhere.
A team where average players have career years at the same time and it cause the team to become elite doesn't happen, without some help. 2014/2015 royals teams were cheating with video system.. not sure how the gnats were doing it but anyone that has followed baseball knows that a team of scrubs with posey and some good pitching all of a sudden collectively have best seasons of their careers. One washed up has been having miracle season makes you wonder .. the whole team at one time.. sorry, been watching, playing, coaching, managing baseball too long to believe it.
The signpoint for the season (for me) was the series in Philly. The Giants won the 1st 2 & the Phils the Sunday game. They canned their mgr the next day - 7 games under .500. I think the Giants were 6-7 above. Two entirely different teams after that.
The Giants were expected to have a better showing this season with their offense lacking in certain areas. Still, with lots of potential, the Giants may send some shockwaves into the media if they some holes are filled!
Lol no. 2021 was a fluke season no one expected them to be any good
@@sessixact Winning 107 games was a fluke...but I thought they could win around 90 games. That's not coming from a Giants fan.
Not a fluke they just need an impact bat. Judge would do the trick
@@sessixact 107 wins a fluke? You’re mad
As a Giants fan, this was a good analysis of the 2022 Giants. By the way, it’s pronounced Zach Li-tell, not Zach Little. Haha 😂
He’s DFA now
The Giants don't have an ace right now. While Carlos Rodon and Logan Webb are very good starters they are not ace quality. They are both top tier 2 spot pitchers. Their next best starting pitcher is Alex Cobb and he is an okay 3 spot pitcher, then it is Alex Wood and he has only been a good 4 spot pitcher because of his massive inconsistency issues. The Giants don't have a single reasonable starter other than those 4 which is why they have been having so many bullpen games lately. While Doval is a great up and coming reliever, he is still growing into pitching in the majors. The only other bullpen pitcher that the Giants have that is consistently good is Brebia. Everyone else in the Bullpen for the Giants is too inconsistent this year. While Rogers is good for 2 quick outs every time he goes up to the plate, after 2 the batters have adjusted to his style and if he doesn't get lucky with a ground ball he struggles to get a third out.
When it comes to hitting the Giants have always been a streaky team. This year the streaks haven't lined up. A lot of the problem with the Giants offensive has also come with the transition away from small ball into long ball only, which is a mistake in their ballpark. Their park is designed for a lineup with 2 long ball hitters and 7 hitters that are doing all they can to get on base and mess with the pitcher once there. That type of line up is how they won 3 Pennants in 5 years. 2 players who could go yard consistently and 5 or 6 who could get on base a lot with good starters and an excellent bullpen. The giants have too many players trying to go long and no support from the bullpen.
In order for the Giants to be good they need to accept that for the next 4 or 5 seasons they will suck while they stock their farm system with talent so they can have another amazing 6 or 7 seasons before they repeat stocking their farm system again.
Thats a pretty good analysis of whats going on. I remember thinking last year, even during our great season, that relying on the homerun is not sustainable at all. And as predicted, it all came crashing down this year. Bruce Bochey knew and understood how to win with the Giants and it wasn't with the long ball. Losing the leadership and the huge positive influence that Buster Posey had didn't help this year either. I can almost sense that our pitchers just don't look quite as comfortable without Posey behind the dish.
Rodon is a Ace what you talking about lol. He's only in top 10 in about every stat category for SP.
@@jayboley9683 He isn't a Madison Bumgardner in his prime, he isn't a Tim Lincecum in his prime. Carlos Rodon is a great starting pitcher, but he doesn't have that something extra that makes him completely dominate on the mound almost every time he gets on it. I've seen Carlos Rodon dominate in a game before, but most of the time he is pitching you can see his control isn't even above 90%. He misses where he wants to put the ball a good 10% of the time and it is only luck that those pitches aren't slammed out of the park. Numbers aren't everything when it comes to evaluating the quality of a player. Carlos Rodon isn't an ace, but he is a fantastic starting pitcher that can hold the 2 spot in the rotation behind an ace and almost guarantee you the win in a series. For your starting pitcher lineup you want an ace in your 1 spot, and Rodon is not an ace.
"Rotation filled with veterans having career years.... and then Johnny Cueto" 😂
Man is in a category of his own🤣
@@iTalkStudios love your videos, keep up the good work. My favorite baseball content on RUclips!
@@TheGamingClovers Much appreciated, man. Thank you so much for your support!!
Everyone had a chance to win the world series in 2020. No asterisk
but it’s not the same as a regular season, not the same games played and not the same potential.
@@E_xe2 if ur team won in 2020 would you say that
@@E_xe2 everyone had a chance to win it. Every team was able to. Your team could’ve won it and they didn’t.
@@E_xe2 but didn’t all the MLB teams play baseball that year ? Just because there was no fans doesn’t mean there wasn’t pressure on the players to perform !
Well whatever delusions you can believe in, the facts is: Dodgers didn't play ONE WS game in Chavez Ravine. Chavez Ravine STILL hasn't seen a WS winning team since 1988 LMAO
The asterisk STAYS
2:43 YO that kid who caught that Ruf homer is a legend 😂😂😂
2021 just seemed like a fluke performance out of a lot of their guys. I don't think Kapler is the problem, and at least deserves another season to right ship. The front office has to carry some of the blame here. There's just not a ton of talent when you compare them to the Dodgers or Padres, and the front office decided to pretend like 2021 was the norm and not the exception when it came to filling the holes. I love Joc, but if he's your best hitter there's a problem.
This would be for the power threat only...but would the Giants consider trading for Ozuna?
@@87Khein No, a thousand times absolutely not. He's a bum
What talent do the Dodgers or Padres have that wasn't bought. Padres got nothing the Dodgers got Will Smith and Urias. No one else stands out
As a Phillies fan and a fan of gabe kapler. I was impressed last year with the giants but this year they didnt do well . I hope they can rebound next year
There are actual fans of Gabe Kapler??? The guy is a joke
As a giants fan Doval is the giants MVP I want him to stay forever
Kid threw 104MPH last night!
All of this is true and it definitely hurts but a lot of lessons learned an hopefully 2023 is a better year ⚫🟠
Be careful you might get harrases by a Dodgers fan
Giants got a ton of money to spend brother can’t wait for next season 😈
Freezing cold take
Fantastic video. Man do I miss Posey. Giants need to sign a legit star next year. This year they have been running on fumes. Tough to compete with the Dodgers (who feel like an all-star team that just happens to wear the same uniform).
One thing your video confused a bit: the reliever Littell’s name is not pronounced “little” but more like the toymaker “Mattel”.
Much appreciated!!!! And yes, as I was recording my mind forgot the actual way of saying it, lol. Thank you for the kind words!
How did you not mention Camilo Doval from last year lol. Bro won releiver of the month and was dominate
He just threw 104mph last night!
and then the rise again
As a Giants fan, last year was amazing for sure, but I'm starting to think we need to rebuild for reals this time. There's definitely some pieces there but the core (the offensive one in particular) just isn't the same
As a giants fan I am happy to see a giants video as a giants fan I am sad to witness the fall
No asterisk for the 2020 season World Series championship. All 30 teams were trying to get there and win. Signed, a respectful Giants fan.
Duh? Ofc all teams had a chance , a chance to what win 60? 😂 come on dude
Us giants fans weren’t expecting to repeat last year but were hoping to make the playoffs. The only person I can see the giants signing this off-season is judge but that is going to be very hard. Another bullpen arm might be good and hopefully calling up prospects like Heliot Ramos, David Villar, and Luis Gonzales might turn it around for us. But we also need guys like Joey Bart and Mike Yastrzemski to step up and Brandon Crawford, Brandon belt, or Evan Longoria to fill in posey’s leadership role
Belt? As much as I like the dude, but he’s hurt way too often to be a starting guy.
Crawford has to step it up, both offense and defense took a hit and he’s not getting any younger.
Belt should be gone, & ramos , Gonzalez haven’t shown promise as of late . Teams gonna need too go get a couple of guys besides judge too help in 2023
I don’t see Belt playing next year
great video as always
If it was Kapler, there would be a lot more incidents about it. Just think the loss of Posey was a big thing for them. A lot of people admitted he was the captain/leader of the squad throughout the years. A loss like that takes some time to get over, but as long as someone steps up in the last few games/next year, we should see something similar.
Do you like kapler as a manager?
@@bretmurphy5495 Meh. Depends on the team. I think he's best as a manager for a team trying to rebuild or an older team that already knows what they are doing. In other words, don't really mind or care for him.
Ok I’ll tell you why they fell off. They didn’t sign Gausman along with Rodon. They didn’t sign Rizzo, Freeman or Schwarber to replace belt, they didn’t try to sign seager, story or semien. That says a lot man. When you can’t buy literal pieces that can fix the holes. Farhan is who to blame because 2022 should have been championing or bust. He’s a dodger plant
Just for the fact that Kapler miss plays Joc Pederson (the only offensive treath in the team) you can say "yes, Kapler is part of the regression".
They still have some interesting pieces in Webb, Yas, Wade, Desclafani, Cobb, and Wood and Joc. Need some more real bats since several of their offensive spots are platoon options
Something that was completely missed and was by far the biggest single factor in the 2022 Giants fall from grace was the DEFENSE. Advanced Metrics placed the 21 Giants anywhere from 12th to (I think) 7th in defensive runs saved and Outs above average while the 22 Giants were ranked 28th or 29th in baseball. The pitching was a LOT better than we saw because we just couldn't field this year. The offense is also a LOT more complicated than explained here as the Giants were consistently top 10 in runs scored this year but this was at the cost of ALL defensive viability and we were also too dependant on platoon advantages to make up for the loss of star bats so this led to extreme inconsistency all year. It was either feast or famine and our trash defense needed all those runs to win.
Wilmer Flores has been solid this season. He’s an unsung hero.
As a Giants fan, it is hard to watch games anymore. And how did you not talk about the Giants defense this year? It has been absolutely atrocious lol
Right?! The Giants are known for their defense! That they get the little things (like routine groundouts and flyballs) right. This year it's been hard to watch error after error!
I wonder if Crawdaddy will keep his gold glove
Aaron Judge to the Giants next year ?👀
Says no one
2020 is a great trophy to have, it was a great tournament; that being said it doesn’t count as an actual championship
I understand about the offense - but the defense was and is pretty bad, too. Idk about this but I'm pretty sure that Crawford had more errors in the first half of 2022 than he did all of 2021. There have been rumors of "optional batting practice" too. Overall, I'm sorta disappointed, but just look at how things have been in the past - on one year, off one year. idk
A big miss in this video is how bad the Giants' defense has been.
True. The Giants defense has been atrocious for most of this season. Even tonight's game there were a couple of defensive blunders.
Giants had the same team they had last year except for Joc and Rodon, was surprised they fell off this fast, Crawford and Yastrzemski haven’t been the same either
so Buster posey doesn’t exist
@@E_xe2 Joc made up for that
Literally last year was a career year for ever single Giants player I told all the Giants fans who talked shit on the Dodgers that this would happen
Posey was the best player on the giants last year and he was the leader of that team. Take him out and this is the Giants.
@@13gocrazy The Dodgers???? 🤣🤣🤣 rightio mate. Not everyone can buy Betts, Freeman and Turner. Take away those guys and you pricks wouldn't even have 90 wins
Our offense isn’t great but our bullpen besides Doval is just awful and we can’t hold on to any leads
I will argue the legitimacy of the 2020 World Series to the day I die…
Thairo Estrada is pronounced “Tairo” and Zach Littel is pronounced “Li - Tell”
not “Little”
My favorite teams to analyze are 21 Giants, 20 Rays, 19 Nationals and 18 Brewers
It's weird, I've kind of just completely forgotten about the existence of the Giants this year. I feel like there's literally no one even talking about them. Anytime I see something about them I'm like "oh yeah, they ARE a team still"
The loss of Posey can't be overstated. It would be like the 2004 Red Sox without Varitek.
The Giants also kind of won the division on a bad check swing call also. It ended up being even after that bad call in the NLDS.
The Ump blew a ball 4 call earlier in that at bat to Ruf, the outcome should've been the same either way
@@dirtydan1741 I agree that might be true. However ball and strike calls get missed every at bat. Check swing not as much
This was NOT the first time in history that the Dodgers and Giants would play in the post season. 1962 season ends with both teams tied for first in the NL. A three game playoff gets SF into the World Series, where they lost to the Yanks.
The Dodgers get to the post season every year. Have the highest payroll and for what? 1 *WS win? The Giants have won 3 WS under the Posey Dynasty. Who are the real winners here?
Agreed 100 percent...and I'm not a fan of either team. Hopefully teams that Dodgers fans hate will win championships in the near future...Braves, Giants, Padres, etc...
@@87Khein lmaoo ohh you’re just a Dodger hater 😂😂 I wonder what they did to hurt you so bad, or maybe you’re just upset you’re not from the greatest city in the US. Cry more 😂😂😂
It’s sad that we had to beat the Astros for you since you couldn’t beat them yourselves.
@@josephlira9841 Kind of a reach; “best City in the world”! If you like feces and rampant crime!
@@87Khein I mean the astros did cheat so there’s that
Turns out we need another part on the video.
Even as this season rn its been a rollercoaster we either look like a contender or like a minor league team but our major problem is our bullpen
Please make a video on how disappointing the white sox were
I talk I know damn well u remember me whens the next stream my brotha
Can you make a video about the Brewers? As a Brewer fan, I would like to know why we haven't created what we did in 2021. I know our pitching staff hasn't been the best, but that's the only thing I want to say without getting fact checked...
Freddie Freeman ended your franchise. I have no bias against the Brewers. It’s just how it is.
@@87Khein nooooooo😆
Speaking of Gabe Kapler I am still shocked that he got another manager job after he was so bad for the Phillies...
Jews stick together. Kapler had commie parents, and Jew Baer loves him.
Giants should have moved on after last year and found someone internal. I think his job he did with the Phils was horrible, especially since they made it to the WS with not a lot of changes.
Wonder if the offensive production regressing has anything to do with their hitting coach going to the rangers?
Why does everyone forget that the Giants traded for Kris Bryant in 2021
Aaron judge coming to the bay next year sit back and watch🙏🏻
Still 1988 for the Dodgers.
Agreed....and, for the record, 1981 is also fake.
Plz do the white sox next no way we should’ve had a season like this
The prospects in the Giants farm system have not planned out, that’s been the biggest setback.
True. And guys like Ramos and Luciano are taking long to develope
If Posey had been hired as manager rather than Crapler 🤔
I think posey retiring killed them.
I agreed hsi leadership skills helped a lot I am no Giant fan
But I wanted the Giants to win the and go to the world series
It most certainly didn’t help. But we can’t overlook the giants inability to draft and develop over the last couple of years. Whereare lincecums, Bums, Cains, Poseys, Crawfords, Paniks, Sandovals, etc been???
giants will be back we got that fire. sad there’s no wilmer mention for 22 offense he’s been a consistent stud
Could have something to do with Kapler not going out for National Anthems.
A major issue with the Giants is their division. They play in a division with 2 of the 5 highest spending teams. If they played in the NL Central or AL West, they would be way better. Personally I am not too satisfied with a .500 finish considering how much less they spend.
The giants had the luckiest season from a pro sports franchise last year. Props to them for what they achieved but they had so many players overachieve. The Dodgers are their daddy
Giants- 3 world series
Dodgers- 250 million dollars and nothing to show for it
+ Giants lead the all time head to head. Who's the father in this situation again 🤔
@@bradschneider82 CURRENTLY it’s the dodgers
Two major contributing factors you didn't mention: the abysmal fielding, which chewed up the pitching staff at times and magnified the lack of scoring; and Farhan Zaidi and the journeyman-heavy roster of marginal players he assembled. Zaidi owns a lot of the mediocrity and sub-mediocrity of this team. You cannot win in MLB with a roster of platoon players. Channeling Billy Beane circa 2002, Zaidi thought he cracked the code with 2021 and was proven wrong. Sitting on a pile of cash, he spent like it was coming out of his own paycheck. Ownership has seemed to prioritize their real estate development deals over respecting their extremely loyal fan base and status as a legacy franchise. A bitterly disappointing season on all fronts.
Buster Posey. That's what made that team.
@2:00 we do know how they did it. They were 35 games above .500 in 1 run games. They got ridiculously, ludicrously lucky.
Their W/L record in games where they scored 3 runs or less was also way above the league and historical averages.
@@tommccarthy3052 That means their pitching was really good. The one-run game thing is different because 10-9 is a one-run game.
@@87Khein Yeah...in the 1st half of '21 the starters were outstanding. In the 2nd half - excepting Webb - not so much but the Pen was better than the 1st half so that made up for it.
Very true about 1 run games. The focus tends to be on that since it's the most variable stat from year to year. That's why I focus more on runs scored/given up.
As of today they are 14-61 in games scoring 3 or less, last year it was 22-38. Inc'l 13 wins where they scored 3 & 6 when they scored 2 (19-17 overall in those games vs. 13-38 this year). That sums it up pretty well I think.
@@87Khein You don't consistently win that many one run games without there being some level of luck.
But it’s not just one isolated incident with Kapler. I don’t think it’s any coincidence that the Giants started sliding this year right after Kapler made things about himself and started playing politics with his “views”.
Kepler has shown he is not a very good manager. He has one good fluke year. His tenure with the Phil’s was uninspired, players don’t like him. I doubt he last the year.
If call it a career too if I was Posey sitting on 100,000,000 after taxes and agent fees…
Unless I'm missing crucial information about the org, the Giants just aren't very good offensively and is the main reason for why they were so mediocre this season. They're hitters have managed to squander runs with RISPs several times. It was so thrilling to see them go on such a hot win streak at the beginning of the season. Seeing them start to falter and inevitably crash and burn just made me not to watch them anymore for the rest of the season because it was so painful to bear.
I rlly think it’s the age. Our players are old and towards the end of their carrier. I have a feeling we’re going to rebuild soon and repeat the triple crown we used to have.
The Giants has almost everyone having a career year in 21 and the problem with that was the expectations of a repeat that rarely happens in baseball. The pitching isn't good and there's a lot of old guys like Crawford and kids like Bart in that team. They might come back in 23 but wait and see what moves they make in the off-season.
Weel at least the Manager's hairline rised throughout the video
I’m still pissed about John Montefusco ⚾️
Dodgers won bc they spent TONS of money and traded their prospects for top proven veterans, and they got Freeman for nothing! We stuck with mostly the same Pitchers and same line ups and what happened, everyone faded. Losing Posey & Gausman, were huge. Even though Gausman faded towards the end, he gave us quality starts. Clubhouse Presence is huge, Buster emanated winning and everyone in the clubhouse wanted to live up to it. I think we should have gotten Bart in to the lineup last year and made him the primary backup regular. Instead we made him the 22 starter, which made him feel the weight of filling in HOF shoes. Belt was injured as usual, Craw was off both offensively and defensively, Wade was hit with injury bug, and Yaz offensively seemed to decline bc he didn't have any bats in the lineup to protect him. I think the lack of youth and offense is hurting us, the infusion of young talent is what got us to those championship years as well as sustain it. International signings look good, but our MLB Amateur draft has not been producing yet, hopefully they will and the next Mad, Posey, or Lincecum, will be on the horizon. Wasn't impressed with this years Draft, hopefully, the prior ones will bear fruit. Look forward to next year Giants fans!
Hey fun fact the clip on 2:43 Darin ruf homerun well I actually caught the ball
George Costanza works for the Giants?
Bro got the mandilorian background music
Giants have some big decisions to make they either need to rebuild and sell their current pieces or try to beef up their current roster with some more big free agent splashes, the Dbacks have been killing it in their rebuild and look to be a solid team next year and the Padres should be a contender again next year with Machado/Soto and Tatis after he finishes suspension. I Truly don't think they are set up to be better than either of those teams and that's not even mentioning LA.
After they had a couple really bad years in 17 and 18 I started to think they needed to blow it up and rebuild. Then they were the hottest team in baseball for a month in 2019 before fizzling out and missing the playoffs. This reinforced my theory that old teams just can’t compete with these younger ones (CC: 2018 Mariners vs 2022 Mariners). Now we are seeing why I was right. They might have had a crazy successful season last year but that simply is not sustainable for the future.
We have potential to be a playoff team again we just need more offense players and sign back rodon and bring up some young players
Given my son’s a Giants fan I do watch my fair share of games, and “fluke” is the wrong word, but literally everybody caught fire collectively.
You typically can’t catch lighting in a bottle twice, especially with how loaded that Dodger lineup is in all aspects.
I still think Kapler’s the guy, so long as Farhan keeps spending shrewdly.
As a Dodgers fan, I must say, I love when both teams are competitive because it adds to the storied rivalry. Not to say the rag tag group of giants besting the superstar laden dodgers isn’t a great story, but when both teams have stars its a better sell. That being said, I really hope the Giants go sign Aaron Judge. He’d be back home, Zaidi would have finally made a big free agent splash and the team would have someone to lead the franchise going forward. 6+ years of Betts vs Judge sounds great if you ask me.
I hate it when both teams are competitive because unlike the Dodgers the Giants actually develop their talent. But Dodgers fans love to ignore that and rave about Betts, Freeman and Turner guys who if the Giants had the Giants would win the division easily
Are you sure 2020 wasn't the hardest to win? I mean players had 100 less games to get injured or burned out playing. I know it's not football but that long of a season must wear on every player, so you would think you're more likely to be fresh. Just saying, no asterisks.
It looks bad that the Dodgers haven’t won any other titles in this era. If they win one in a full season then the narrative will start to change.
I see how people can say that. But there were also more teams to fight in post season because expanded playoffs too. Every team started with the same 0 wins and 0 losses.
And their was an extra round to. People forget about that and being in an extra round increases the chance for mess ups and unlikely players and teams to get hot and upset top dawgs.. dodgers could have easily got knocked out in that extra round given how much times they have messed up in the past especially a team like the brewers who have a history of giving the dodgers problems but they took care of business
@@countryclubbin1016 No there literally wasn't. 4 postseason series is pretty typical for a wild card team that goes all the way
What he say to kapler?