My DevaDamage Story
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- Опубликовано: 20 окт 2024
- The damage I have received from DevaCurl still effects me to this day. This isn't about vanity. I explain why it took me so long to realize I was in a very toxic relationship with these products.
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Yes, I will be doing a big chop soon. This is not like bleach or heat damage - this is chemical. You can't bounce back from that. I just wish that my new hair growth was normal though.... It's growing out wiry and grey. I believe my scalp is permanently damaged.
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Oh sweet lord. I hope that that can be fixed somehow ):
Isn’t there any other solution than to chop the hair? Won’t the new grown hairs be curlier even without a chop?
I did a big chop recently, I thought all of my issues were from having babies. My curls at the nape of my neck (supposedly the healthiest) are S’wavy!!! I was born with 3c Botticelli curls.
This is crazy. FDA needs to get on board like European laws. I don’t know who to trust anymore. Greed at the root of all this mess. Just make honest products, aren’t billions of dollars enough money? Always cutting corners. Just let honesty pave the path.
Sweet baby- sending love Ayesha
“I don’t have curly hair anymore “ that hurts
Spidey Senses people w straight hair will never understand how devastating that statement is.
Melissa Guarino I know! My curly hair is my trademark
Spidey Senses me to my curls are literally my favorite thing about me. That’s how people recognize me by my curls. I was fresh out the shower and my bf asked me if I straitened my hair and I died a little bit inside. 😭😭😭😭😭
Melissa Guarino in her other video she said that Devacurl sent her the Wavy hair line. It’s like a sick joke 🤬😡
Spidey Senses 😵🤬WWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWW that’s HELLA f**ked up like stomping somebody when they’re down already
I never touched a bottle of DevaCurl, but I'm angry for every person that had their identity, hardwork and possibly health damaged by a negligent company. To everyone that has suffered: I pray that every wave, curl, and coil comes back with more life than you can imagine. The length is restored at twice the original speed and your health improves following this disaster.
In Jesus name Amen.
In Jesus’ name, Amen. 🙏🏾
Rache; Meatte actually read around instead of asking dumb questions
I wanted to try one of their products..... I'm glad I never did or else it wouldve been too late
Rache; Meatte from my understanding, DevaCurl used to be really good and a lot of people really loved it. It was only recently that the products have started to damage people’s hair. So this lead people to believe there was something that they themselves were doing wrong, not the products. Hope that helped a bit!
when you said you had chronic headaches, I almost dropped my phone. I've been having chronic headaches for 4 years, which is when I started my devacurl journey. this is crazy
Morgan Stewart ohh shit!! Please stop!
Morgan Stewart stop it unless u want ur scalp and hair permanently damaged ....
Bright Rose she has stopped
Please do not think the headaches are nothing. After a few months, your nerves begin to change , it’s like they start ‘aiming’ toward headaches. I have now had them daily since 1967 (the pill was the cause. If I had stopped immediately, I would not still taking painkillers). This is not a joke.
@@Lazy_TropicalGirl28596 I think shes referring to birth control
I’m sick to my stomach. My 13 year old daughter has curly hair and I bought her devacurl a year ago because I thought it was what was best for her curly hair. She had been having headaches almost daily, her hair was falling out by the handfuls, and the definition of her ringlets was gone. Until the news hit the media I had no idea I was harming my daughter. I feel so sick over this.
honey dont blame yourself, just make sure you def change her products please 💛
Oh dear. Please don't blame yourself. You did what was best according to the information we all were given.
This is not at all your fault, none of us had any idea
Oh my goodness! 💔
Don't blame yourself, that's exactly what they want you to do (especially with what they said in their statement). All we can do is do better
A dermatologist is not enough in this case, SEE A NEUROLOGIST! It's affecting you internally please get yourself checked for these headaches ASAP!
@@luckyDancer100 i think that might be a bit dramatic, might be diet related or stress related due to the nature of what she is going through.
Winnie Dexter maybe but she still should just in case it isn’t and plus it’s good to get checked up regularly
@@Winniedexter I mean that's what she thought about her hair getting damaged that maybe its stress and diet, it's better to be safe than sorry and check
I think this a is a good idea when I checked out the think dirty app the first time I for sure thought I saw that an active ingredient in deval curl was ethyhexyl methoxycinnamate which is a know indocrine distributor affecting body development brain and metabolism that’s what I read in the app but I just checked right now and I can’t find it anymore.
Ayesha please! You contradict yourself, don't do this to the girls, you need an MRI assap, Magnetic resonance!!! I hope not, but if your dermatologist did not solve you and if you have 8 months of not using Deva, that is a tumor in your head! You need a neurosurgeon I beg you to react to your real problem urgently !!!
I am so sorry. God this is horrific its like they poisoned you
They been poisoning black women products.. Especially products for 4c hair.
Kameka Moore3 Wow, really? Can you explain this more?
Tearing up.... my heart literally bleeds.... The worst part is the scalp damage. Babe I am sending you a hug x
Your ayurvedic hair tea rinses and henna glosses might help get her hair health back on track.
When I went through some hair loss and shedding (not due to devacurl) a few months ago, I used your recipes and they helped me so much! I'm on month 4 of just using the rinses and my hair is growing back so fast! the health of my hair has also changed, its so much stronger and thicker now.
@@curlymami Curly Proverbz was the first person I followed when I started on my curly hair journey. She is awesome, isn't she?!
Send her some products!
I just posted a video on what helped my recovery, if anyone is interested ☺️💚
12:00 She said the only thing she was using to clarify her hair was “Buildup buster” once a week. That is a *micellar water* treatment, not even a clarifying shampoo with sulfates. The dermatologists claiming CGM users weren’t cleansing enough were right. *Please don’t be afraid to use sulfates* to clarify your hair people, or your scalp will be damaged. If Deva is claiming a micellar water treatment is equivalent to the cleansing from sulfates, that’s false advertising.
Is it just hair? Technically YES. But, if we count the energy, finance, and time dedicated to grow it, suddenly it is not just hair.
Yupp same with any other hobby or passion. Like if you've collected cards of some sort for years and suddenly someone steals all of them, like would you tell them "it's just cards" like?? It has meaning to them we can't be out here shaming ppl for what they value in their life.
It's also part of a woman's identity.
Ayesha showed that she loved her hair very much, losing her beautiful curls is heart-wrenching.
This is more than just about hair...a multi million dollar company is LEGALLY selling products to consumers that is harming them
It’s not even just her hair. She’s having many internal issues as well. If you watched her latest video, she says in the comments that she now has to wear HEARING AIDS! So this Devacurl situation is going much deeper than just hair.
@@freddiemercury4880 True
I was wishing you would start making videos again. I hate that this is the reason why.
I'm so sorry this happened to you!
Exactly what I thought:(
9melissal same here I liked her vids and wondered why she stopped.
for anyone without curly hair who can’t understand her anger : this is like spending YEARS being a dedicated health fitness guru and having that be such a defining part of your sense of self and confidence only to use a protein shake for example that made you gain massive amounts of weight and caused permanent damage to your body
it isn’t just hair - its her passion, her career, her culture and a huge part of her identity
sending you lots of love x
We straight haired women spend lots of time and money in order to keep our hair long, shiny and healthy. For an European woman like me, and also for Asian and Native American women our long straight hair is a huge part of our indentity and culture. Please stop acting like your hair is more important than ours, or say that we don't understand her pain because it's not true.
thesunlessway I was more talking talking about how she has a RUclips channel dedicated to her hair, has an extensive hair care routine and is a huge member of the ‘curly hair community’. Sorry for my phrasing I was trying to compare the time, energy and money she invested in her hair to that of a fitness guru. Not saying that this is exclusive to curly haired women but I have only seen this kind of dedication within the whole “curly girl movement” on youtube
@@thesunlessway but straight hairs always been praised while curly and especially frizzy have been demonized. Till now. So calm down
J L there was nothing wrong with your phrasing! Curly hair takes more time and dedication. That’s a fact !
J L Nothing wrong with the way you phrased it. Don’t let these people bully you. She’s projecting, because nothing you said was offensive.
She's massaging her scalp most of the video as she talks.. this is heart breaking.
I can definitely understand your pain and the frustration of people just not getting why hair is so important to us. I spent 6 years growing my hair long for it to turn out a mess for unknown reasons, and recently had chop it all and start again. I hope you will get some kind of justice for your hair x
Thank you, I love your channel
I actually have the EXACT same hair story as yours and have been following you for a long time so I know your story. I know you Might be confused but yes, you DO have Curly hair. Don't give up now if you are considering it because your hair is happier. My story is just like yours and I started the cgm the same time as you. You are a big part of my hair journey and I am so happy your hair is getting better.😘
Your so beautiful
I just posted a video on what helped my recovery, if anyone is interested ☺️💚
@@tajrapintol8708 CGM is flawed, ManesbyMell made a video about it. 12:00 She said the only thing she was using to clarify her hair was “Buildup buster” once a week. That is a *micellar water* treatment, not even a clarifying shampoo with sulfates. The dermatologists claiming CGM users weren’t cleansing enough were right. *Please don’t be afraid to use sulfates* to clarify your hair people, or your scalp will be damaged. If Deva is claiming a micellar water treatment is equivalent to the cleansing from sulfates, that’s false advertising.
Sweetheart people might say “it’s just hair” but they don’t know how it feels. I went through the experience of having clumps of my hair falling out in the shower and it is so heart breaking and panic inducing that people don’t understand until it happens to them. We love and are thinking of you and you are going to look so beautiful with the new shorter ‘do!
I never used to understand people who cared a lot about their hair until I big chopped my hair to chin length, started the CGM and spent so much money, time and effort on making it longer and healthier. I used to think my frizzy hair was my worst feature and after all this effort it became my favorite 'body part'. I never used Deva, but now after a 38 lb weight loss my hair is falling out in chunks, I very nearly cry every time wash day comes. My heart goes out to Ayesha, Stephanie Mero and all these women who have suffered this damage.
Agreed.. very easy to say it's just hair... Only ppl going through will know how traumatic it is
EstherTheNicey can I suggest you may be lacking in a vitamin? I've stomach issues and don't absorb certain vitmains . i have been taking a hair gummy for the past year. my hair is so much better
it happened to me too. i started taking vitamins and buying oils because i was so scared
In regard to the vitamins, Vit D deficiency will cause hair to fall out like that and it's fairly common this time of year.💜
Ayesha aren't you friends with Philip DeFranco because of an interview you did with him in the past? Please get in touch with him, maybe this story will get an even bigger platform and DevaCurl will be pressured. Wishing you the best :(
Omg yes please try to get in touch with him, he has a huge platform
And his wife was using deva before and stopped too
This needs to be done! I agree
Yes! That’s a great idea!!!
I agree
Dang. The long-term effects are the really creepy part about all of this...I mean, your body bounces back faster after you’ve smoked cigarettes for years than from using deva curl😓
That would be because hair is dead but I see your point
@@chiaa2011 i think shes referring to the headaches, and scalp irritation that are still occuring for ayesha
ERICAWENTWEST oh makes sense thank you
ERICAWENTWEST Yes exactly!😊
The fact that it’s not only your hair it’s your SCALP.... you can’t have healthy hair with out a healthy scalp. Devacurl isn’t only ruining hair they’re ruining LIVES! I hope that when you big chop you can find a solution for your scalp and start a a wonderful hair growth journey! ❤️❤️(also Karma will take care of devacurl😈)
Sakara Carter amen! devacurl needs to 🛑 may the be shut down for good or until they can finally understand the damage and how to make better and not crappy products....
Honestly I feel like if I where in this situation I would just shave my head,work on my scalp,and then grow out healthy hair.Idk if that will work but I would five it a shot
Give*
I'm soooooooo glad I didn't get devacurl. Once I started my curly hair journey I was watching very old videos and almost all of them recommended devacurl. So I told myself I would get it the next time I go shopping. Thank god I found a video explaining what devacurl really is. I would have bought it and god knows what I would've been through right now.
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I don’t know you but I hope you’ll be okay. Women always get treated like they’re crazy so I understand why you didn’t say something sooner
it ISN'T just hair. this is about identity. this is about confidence. this is about health. I am so sorry.
What hysteria? I see a legitimately angry woman demanding answers as to why her hair is damaged and why she has chronic headaches.
The damage done to my hair is mild, but I also saw my curly hair as part of my identity. I get it.
Devacurl is absolutely Gaslighting. I can't believe this situation. I am so so sorry for the damage you have experienced.
ruining hair _and_ making people question their sanity. Real classy.
It's just awful what happened to you..... You should sue them personally!!! Not just for ruining your hair but for causing damage to your scalp!!! No products should do that!!!!
And they have the nerve to dismiss the issue as nothing?!? THAT already makes them look guilty!
This is dishonest and downright cruelty.
@@zeynabbbb unfortunately a big company like that can hire the best lawyers and drag on a lawsuit that will cost you thousands of dollars
And her career was affected too!
"You don't understand, I broke my back for hair health". Yes baby, I feel you. My curls are so nonexistent now when I had perfect little corkscrew ringlets and no one understands that, yes it may not seem like a big deal to you, but that took a lot of work and dedication. I started my journey as a way to say "screw you" to a society who made me feel like I was ugly and disgusting for not having straight hair.
This!!!
people who think shes being dramatic have never experienced the emotion that goes along with taking care of curly hair.....loving something about yourself that youre told not to love and trying to see it at its best
@@theeblakester002 exactly. A society that is designed to tell young girls you have to get contacts and straighten your hair etc. Even movies like The Princess Diaries or every movie ever where a girl has a "big transformation" all they do is straighten her hair and give her contacts. Gave me such a complex at a very young age and embracing what God and genetics gave me was me finally sticking my middle finger up at society.
Meagan Sanders wow I’m so sorry my whole life I absolutely loved curly hair I always loved it. Anyone who ever made you feel ugly for your beautiful hair was absolutely jealous . And jealousy turns to hatred. And when people hate they say cruel and mean things. All those people are suffering with personal insecurities. They said those things because they don’t like themselves. Tearing you down gave them a sense of pride , which was self defense for their own self pity. They were completely in the wrong for that. And now here are all these women wishing they had your hair . Crazy isn’t it !! Much love to you 🙏🏼💖
@@samanthacruz6135 thank you so much, sweetheart 💜
DO PEOPLE NOT UNDERSTAND THAT YOUR HAIR SHAPES YOUR FACE. She loved her hair and now all her hard work is ruined. I used to beg my mom for deva curl products and I’m so happy i listened to her when she told me no because she is a hair dresser and knew that they were bad from the start. Stop commenting that it’s not that big of a deal. I used to have curly hair till i put chemicals and straightening treatments on it but that was my own doing her hair was taken away from her without her own doing and against her will. Everyone needs to be quiet
I definitely understand why she’s upset, but there are bald women who are still beautiful, so it’s not a necessity or your identity. This is regarding, ONLY your first sentence.
A bald head fits THEIR personality. If a women loses her hair due to chemo, you could also imagine them grieving right? It doesnt matter if she still will be pretty, she struggled so much to have a certain look, and now she wil possibly never look like that again.
Talia Salemi ikr I was going to buy some soon to thank god I didn’t.
How did she know it was bad at the start?? Real question haha I feel like everything on youtube is read in an angry voice
Talia Salemi, I understand your upset to a point. Your Mom was wise to tell you "no" to using DevaCurl products. I'm sure as a hair dresser, she knew to first check the ingredients printed on the products. Researching beauty products of any kind doesn't require being a cosmetology expert. It only requires reading the ingredients and looking them up to know if they are helpful or harmful to your body. Ayesha Malik did not have her hair "taken away from her without her own doing" as you stated in your comment. Ayesha responsibly admitted on her videos to viewers that she used DevaCurl products for years without double-checking the ingredients until she began to experience its harmful effects. One of the smartest choices she's made following her painful experience is to use it as an example of what NOT to do. Education is key to empowerment! Buyer beware: read and research your beauty product ingredients before use ALWAYS!!! Ms. ECstreet :)
Ayesha PLEASE see a neurologist if you haven't yet. Sending you love, girl.
Why would she see a neurologist ?
@@lifeisbeautiful7047 if she is experiencing these severe anxiety symptoms and some of the other symptoms she described from the long term use of these products it could be indicative of neurological damage.
Neurologist is a good idea, but maybe some kind of therapy. Depression & stress can also cause headaches. Big chop may not be the solution, hopefully she will speak to her hairstylist before doing a big chop.
R_ B_ sources?
@@margotdenise5091 information regarding symptoms of neurological damage from long term exposure to certain substances (specifically through the skin in this case) is easily accessible if you are interested in looking into it. I am not referring to any specific substances, or DevaCurl products specifically. Based on Ayesha's explanation, evident distress, and symptom presentation, I made a suggestion as a caring supporter.
I studied neuroscience in college and now work as a researcher. I've seen symptoms like this before. It can be from a number of things for a number of reasons, but if I was in Ayesha's shoes (and as adamant about these products being responsible as she is), I would want to at least rule this out with a medical professional.
I think you should send the products out for testing at a lab. And when you get the proof back, you have a solid case
THIS
Several people who are on this like the curl ninja have said they are unable to afford to do that
Even if its expensive, they are so many so they can easily collect money together
Literally exactly. They have 35,000 people in the group. They can start a go fund me. OBVIOUSLY Devacurl won’t hire third party impartial testing, why would they want to destroy themselves. There’s no way anyone will be taken seriously till the products are tested.
@@taytayqueen7024 agreed. They shouldn't wait for a defensive impartial company. Time is running out since these products are still in the stores and people are still buying them.
Why are people still censoring this? She has every right to feel like she does, as she had every right to feel confused and maybe even ashamed to speak before...
The pain in her voice is heart breaking. I could feel tears coming while watching this video. I can't fully relate since I did not go through her exact experience, have only been wearing my hair curly for two years and I haven't tried DevaCurl because of the price (maybe like one or two small products that were given to me) but I totally understand the devastation she is feeling. My hair only looks good after washing for a couple hours and I see frizz when it is wet. Putting in so much work so that your hair will look good but then it turning into a frizzy ball with lifeless curl/wave things. I know my hair should be getting a least ringlets but I'm only getting weird curl waves. Looking at pictures from her hair before just saddens my heart so much, I can't believe it. The pain she is feeling is undeniable and my sorrow goes out to her. Ayesha, Thank you so much for sharing your story, I know it must be hard.
“Thank you for listening to my hysteria.” This is not hysteria, not in the slightest. You are expressing yourself with an eloquence and clarity that I could barely muster on my best day, much less while sharing such a heartbreaking story of loss and anger. When you’ve put as much work into anything as you have put into your hair, the loss of it feels like the loss of a loved one. I’m so incredibly sorry you’re going through this, and I’m so proud of you for continuing to speak up and raise awareness of this problem.
She literally wrote *this is sarcasm*
She's probably being told its hysteria from devacurl company.
She deserves to be angry. Anyone who’s been taken advantage of can understand that
I completely agree. I would be screaming at the camera...
To you and everyone else who gets guilt-tripped for not speaking up earlier: devacurl literally established a whole brand on being "perfect" for curly hair. So much so that ALL the victims affected that I heard from so far blamed their own hair texture, diet, literally ANYTHING before blaming the brand. In addition, the damage is so bad that even after stopping devacurl it clearly remains, so a lot of victims may have stopped using the brand and continued to think it was because of something else because their hair's/scalp's condition didn't change much.
Oh my God... My hair went to shit after my daughter was born. I thought it was hormones and normal. I tried other products and it didn't make any difference so I would go back to DC since I was convinced it is what gave me the best results out of it all. For the past 2.5 years, I have tried more and more products, gotten multiple trims, even a Deva cut, and nothing has given me the several days of curls I once got from DC. I don't have scalp damage but I do now absolutely think there is something that changed my hair. I never not once considered DC was the issue at play and instead thought it was just my hair being difficult. Had I not seen her first video here about why she wasn't recommending DC anymore then I might not have learned about it when I did (because I didn't really follow curly hair channels here) and am just so glad it popped into my feed.
Now the task to find new curly products...
Ayesha, no words can bring comfort when your identity, your crown, TEN years of work has been stripped away. Im heartbroken for you, me, my daughter... EVERYONE whose been affected by this craziness! Thank you for using your platform to shed light on all of this and sharing your very personal story with the world! We love you and support you fully!!!!
The Glam Belle I only used the products 5x (for 5 washes) & I’m shocked at all the empty areas on the right side of my head!!!!! 😫
Using Castor oil 3x a week now.. stopped color & heat. It’ll take months and months of dedication!!!! How could this happen in 5toxic wash sessions!? Because they are poison!!!
Damn your hair looks so healthy in that pic, that shine.. Diva Curl did you so wrong actually they did everyone so wrong. My grandmother (88) is Asian and has thick straight jet black healthy hair and she kept it like that thanks to washing her hair with only rice water. Look up some videos, it helps with creating shine, keeps it healthy, reduces slip ends and hair loss. I would reccomend you doing an overnight mask of this of you have been affected by Deva Curl immediately. Hair damage 100% can never be repaired but it partly can.
The Glam Belle so well said. My sentiments exactly. This whole situation is horrific. I also have suffered with itch scalp and hair loss from devacurl. A mostly carnivore diet with occasional veggies has helped me fit the damage that has been done. Reducing the inflammation in my body tremendously. 🥩’s up for hair strength and growth.
My heart is broken for you and everyone affected 🌻🌻
Interesting that deva is taking returns from products all the way to 2017... sounds like they know they switched something back in 2017. They're not even asking if it was from a verified retailer's, they just want the product out circulation that could hurt them. If you have been damaged by their products, DO NOT send them to deva curl; send them to a third party testing facility, and contact those in charge of the class action lawsuit, they can help you get your faulty products to the right facilities.
Do not let them get away with this, companies need to stop adulterating the ingredients in their products. L'oreal is notorious for this 🤦🏽♂️
Do you know how to make returns from so far back? I went on DevaCurl's site and their current return policy says you need to return an item within 60 days of purchase and have proof of purchase. Do you know of a special link for returns outside this time or requirements? I have a few products that I have sitting, not used up because of how they instantly made my hair feel terrible and I'd love to get them out of my house and life.- Do you know how to make returns from so far back? I went on DevaCurl's site and their current return policy says you need to return an item within 60 days of purchase and have proof of purchase. Do you know of a special link for returns outside this time or requirements? I have a few products that I have sitting, not used up because of how they instantly made my hair feel terrible and I'd love to get them out of my house and life.
What did L'oreal do ? I used to get eczema on my body from elseve
@@acmbodt They are still accepting returns of old/used products for a full refund, no questions asked. I just recently reached out to them to ask about this. They told me to call their customer care line (the number is on their website) They just asked for my information and the products I wanted to return. They didn't even ask when or where I got them. They're mailing me a return kit and said they would send me a check after processing my return. Unfortunately they said the entire refund process could take up to 3 months, but it's better than nothing considering how expensive DevaCurl products are.
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I'm Jewish and my best friend is black. We both did straightening perms for YEARS and damaged our hair. Three years ago we promised that we would do the big chop together. Both of us embraced our natural texture curly hair journey with DevaCurl. Both of us have to do the big chop again. But we did it once and we'll do it again! I'm so sorry to everyone who's hair has been damaged. DevaCurl has harmed us and should pay. Keep your bottles and any receipts you have!
Edit:It's official, we're bald! We both initially cut our hair to tow inches but BOTH had scalp irritation and patches so we trimmed nearly to the scalp. Now we're trying to heal our scalp first.
Justine H lol I’m jewish and half black! used super team a Little bit and their leave in but made my hair sticky crunchy weighed down! DIY hair care is the way to go. Just made a avo honey banana milk mask... also using handmade shampoo and Redavid consist for a few months now that my stylist recommended. Redavid Probably not too clean either.
@@Sophie-xh7ml thanks for the advice mishpachah! Will try it.
@@JH-kw8zy flaxseed gel is also really good and super cheap! just make sure to make it in small batches as it spoils quickly
“You’re Jewish and your friend is black?“ What’s your race....
J H im glad your both together in this its kind of goals ❤️✊🏽
Your statement about women - especially women of colour - not being able to show certain emotions because they sound hysterical and nobody wants to listen to that... Wow. So insanely true.
Ilivetoeat123 how is it true? As a half Bengali woman I’ve never felt like that
@@anisaa8803 a handful of people not feeling that way does not cancel out the thousands, millions that feel otherwise. life exists outside of yourself
Sogand Karimian I’d like to see where I said it didn’t t. All I asked was how it’s true, you don’t need to be passive-aggressive. Maybe this is why people apparently instantly brand you as emotional lol.
Lil.HoneyyBby who?
Troll
i feel like devacurl went after the most vulnerable people (curly hair girls who’ve gone through hating their hair, wanting it to be straight and smooth before finally finding the CG method and accepting their curls)
it’s disgusting. it takes curly hair girls so many years of self hate to accept ourselves... and a trusted brand in the community causes literal chemical damage to us just for profit.
I swear you just summarized my whole childhood with my insecurities about hair.
Wow! I resonate with this statement 100%
I straightened my hair from 7th grade (11 years old) until 29 years old. I recently embraced my natural curls.
I don't understand though 🥺 Curly haired people have such beautiful hair idc who you are your hair is so fricking beautiful!
You don't understand because even if we love our hair people at school still ask every other day why dont you straighten your hair oh your hair would be so pretty straightened. How long does it take to straighten your hair. Omg you have such big hair.
Lol when you receive these types of comments from 11 years old to almost 20 it shapes the way you view your hair. It makes you think your hair is ugly and there is something wrong with it/you.
I've always been strongly opinated so I never straightened it and always reply I love my hair so no not interested. But still inside it makes you believe you're not pretty as the straight hair girls...
I'm now 29 years old so it's different but I remember school was difficult.
Sans Nom exactly! growing up, my mom had smooth straight hair and never knew how to handle my thick curls. i wore my hair in a ponytail up until 7th grade, when my mom took me to get japanese permanent hair straightening done.
i was bullied a lot as a kid, but once i had that treatment a lot of people’s attitudes toward me changed. i didn’t seem unkempt anymore. i wasn’t as insecure about my hair and was able to wear it out of a ponytail for the first time.
there’s a lot of societal pressure on girls with curly hair - and i’m speaking as an indian. the pressure placed on black women is infinitely greater.
This is one of the few times I am really grateful for the power of social media. My hair too has been damaged by DevaCurl products, but I thought it was me. It was somehow my fault. I must not be doing something right. Without social media, we would all be carrying this guilt and struggling alone. But now we have each other.
Ayesha, I truly pray that you will heal from the emotional pain of your hair damage. Sending you lots of love.
Hair is one of the oldest status symbols of all time. Even cutting your hair is making a statement so lets not pretend that "it's not a big deal" or it's "just hair."
Ayesha I wish you and everyone suffering from this company's willful negligence the best of luck. This corporate greed has to stop.
Yes, cutting hair meant losing your old identity in lots of cultures. It was sometimes done for mourning.
I stumbled upon your "Why I stopped using Devacurl" video while I was super bored and then fell down a rabbit hole of video after video on this topic.
I just wanted to wish you all the best. It's horrible what happened to all the customers who believed devacurl was a high quality product and it breaks my heart to see how devastated you are. Since there is nothing else I can do, I'm sending you many many the comforting thoughts.
Same. I saw this video around 11 something pm and then at like almost 2 am I realized how long I had been watching videos.
Oh my god, I’m so sorry to hear about your grandfather. What a loss!
Devacurl? No, more like demoncurl.
I’m so sorry to all of you that have tried this product.
Emilie Austnes I tried it and just like the only product I used my hair is damaged already my hair LITERALLY gave me 5 bald spots on my head I had to shave it all off and it’s growing back currently looking better but not as good as it was before 😢😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Gigi hehehe Hehehe I’m so sorry that happened to you😣
@@giannahernandez1795 tell me that you have stopped
Sb b I have don’t worry
I never bought devacurl, firstly because I can't afford it but also because I live in Europe and it was never available here until very recently. The EU has much higher standards for ingredients than the US and far more are banned. I never order products that aren't allowed in the EU for this reason. Maybe they changed the formula very recently to meet the standards, just a theory though. Thank you for coming out with your story and I hope you find a solution for your scalp x
Same here lol. I was thinking about ordering them though, because everybody was praising them.
@tai y What products do you use?
@@shady-enn6096 I use Dr Organic shampoo and conditioner and Shea moisture curl milk but tbh I don't know how clean the ingredients are but they seem ok I've been using them for years and not had problems yet.
tai y The Shea Moisture line is really clean if you look them up in the Think Dirty app. Ever since all this Devacurl craziness I started using it to look up every single product I use
@@KC-ep6sg I thought that too but I was worried that the ones on the think dirty app might be the old formula, because I know they changed formula a couple of years ago so now they have fragrance which is usually considered dirty on the app🤔 they're definitely cleaner than most affordable brands though.
I'm literally crying. I'm so sorry girl. I'm just so sorry:(
Hair is culture, it’s life and identity, some people will not understand. I’m sorry for your beautiful mane hopefully the big chop will help.
Ayesha its been MONTHS girl, u ok? Update? Big chop yet?
Ayesha uploads once a year usually
Yeah but she didn’t post anything on Instagram since March I think, not even a story, which is kind of unusual .. I hope she’s fine :/
@@sorayakathir4661 she's tweeted on her Twitter account. I really hope she's okay.
@@Katherine_xs what? Actually? Are you joking? Sorry I'm confused and worried so I cant tell if you're joking or not
Catsn'cofee no I am not joking. I know that she has a full time job (even tho some youtubers can do both like simplynailogical and doctors). Sorry to disappoint you but we are lucky if she uploads once a year 🤣
Oh god, as someone who has straight hair, this honestly makes me mad because I see all you girls with gorgeous curly hair and for their products to ruin it? Honey I'm feeling for you
@@Eli-vi3le me too. i love my curls and can't bear to imagine how i would be feeling if this had happened to me; especially if i had put years and years of time and effort into them. i hope devacurl gets exactly what they deserve for this.
DevaCurl user (former) here. My hair looks just like this. I thought something was wrong with me. It’s taken 8 years to grow my hair to bra strap length and now it’s ruined.
Thank you SO much for speaking up.
@Athenäs shrinkage it's probably the reason. OP's hair is probably longer than that if she pulls a strand until it's straight
What products did you use? I'm a hairstylist and am just hearing about this....terrifying
My god all the massaging ! She must be in so much pain! Mentally and physically ! I’m so sorry Ayesha. Stay strong !
I hope an actual person from Devacurl speaks out soon, and not just words sent out online to appease.
Ok, seriously the state of the hair reminds me when i was relaxing and straightening my hair nonstop. Something is WRONG in the formula of these products for CURLY hair WTF stay strong!!
I hate how devastated she sounds 😢 it’s crazy how you can’t fix this.
I’m so sorry that you’ve had this happen to you Ayesha:( also any of the ladies in these comments, i feel for you💕
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Women seem to never be allowed to show any strong emotion because then we are crazy! I hate that. Go crazy this is deserves it.
Very true, misogyny is still everywhere.
Its been a whole month Ayesha... you haven’t uploaded in a whole month are you ok? How’s your scalp? Are you healing? I’m worried! When are you going to post again?
Hooria Kashish it# been 4 months
Kinda Avani yep
@@r_i_a_a2182 I think she used this quarantine time to do the big chop
Guys did you not hear her in the video? She literally said she’s tried everything and not to recommend her anything more. She’s reached the point where she’s accepted to cut her hair off. If this is going to provide her some relief let her do so without feeling like she needs to keep these ends which are only going to remind her of the damage that’s been done.
You have the right to feel f*cking furious, and to hell with who says otherwise.
this is horrendous.
Exactly!
She’s right we trusted deva curl... I believe this is happening and it’s wrong. Devacurl was expensive and a long term loss
Don’t call it “your hysteria” you have every right to be mad and angry, you worked too hard for your curls and they didn’t only damage them but affected your health.
I am SO SORRY u are going through this! I remember seeing your oil routine video. I hope that works and you go back to be healthy! They need to pay for what they did but your health (that of your skin, hair, and in general) is more important.
Many Blessings ❤️
This is traumatizing. Her journey is going to be so beautiful.
This is literally a public health concern. Why Devacurl hasn't been blasted yet is beyond me
This should be talked about so much more. I was still using Deva curl products weeks ago, I didn't stop until a RUclips video popped up in my feed about it. I shouldn't have to learn this from a RUclips video!!!
TAKE THEIR ASSES TO COURT!! I'm a law student and you should definitely sue for this. High chance you'll win the case and get compensated with $$ for all the damages.
Yes, they will definitely win the case. I used to work in claims administration and I wanted to share some info in case anyone with DevaCurl damage is reading this: there's a very high likelihood that this case is going to take 3+ years before any settlements are paid out because they will need to conduct an independent investigation and court processes take a long time.
If you have damage, whether to your hair or scalp or skin, take pictures of it NOW. Make sure that the date and time is set in your camera so the attorneys can prove that those pictures were taken during the time you were using DevaCurl.
Keep all of your DevaCurl products. If you have receipts to prove that you purchased your products, keep those receipts too (if you don't, don't worry, you still have the products).
If you are experiencing issues like headaches, skin disease, scalp burns, etc go to a doctor and get it checked out. The court will ask for your medical records, so it is necessary that you show proof that your physical ailments were addressed by a doctor. Make sure you see a doctor now. If you discontinue use of the products and then see a doctor later and DevaCurl's lawyers find out, there's a possibility that you can lose out on getting a higher settlement amount. Don't leave room for that possibility. The highest settlement amounts are paid out to people who have incurable medical problems due to exposure to the defendant's products.
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In my personal opinion, what Ayesha is describing (headaches, incurable skin problems) sounds eerily similar to a case I worked on where all plaintiffs had been exposed to a carcinogen. Obviously I don't know if this is the case for DevaCurl, but I wanted to state this just in case anyone isn't convinced that they should discontinue use of their DevaCurl products. I know that most complaints have been about the No Poo line, but I would not recommend using ANY of their products until a proper investigation in done to determine their toxicity levels.
Also, to those who keep insisting that the ingredients list is fine so the victims must be lying: No. I worked with class-action injury lawsuits for a long time. This is what it looks like when a product contains a toxic contaminant. At the beginning of a class-action lawsuit, it's typical for consumers to appear to be out of their mind because of the health problems they claim they are suffering from. Nobody believes them. But as soon as the results of an independent investigation are found, 99% of the time those "wild" claims that the consumers had were confirmed to be true. So stop accusing people of lying about this. Stop telling these women that they aren't being logical or scientific. Stop telling people they are being hysterical. They are probably right about everything.
52hello25 well said 👍🏼 thanks for the info!
It is her fault that she did not read the cosmetics composition but blindly believed that he was great.
The composition is not cool. First of all, it is not natural, and secondly it is based on proteins. Her hair is damaged because she has too much protein. Too much protein dries the hair. The girl must first learn to read compositions, not believe blindly.
If she now began to give her hair moisturizing and protection, her hair would return to its previous state, but instead she prefers to believe in a miracle and buy some bottles from her dermatologist. Then don't be surprised that the hair looks like it looks.
For a lot of women it’s a lot more than “just hair”. When you put that much time, dedication, and love into making your hair healthy and as great as you can just to have it destroyed is heartbreaking. I’m so sorry that you are going through all of this❤️
If DevaCurl is THAT reluctant to admit that their products are the problem, I wouldn't put it past them at this point to use the product recall as a way of recollecting and destroying evidence...
Anamaria Cabrera GOOD point!!
Thats not really how it works. This isnt simply a matter of a couple bad batches that if they take it away from the public and destroy, then it'll go away. If anything if they WERE to do a product recall, that could be used against them in court. Granted they would need more evidence to prove their case that Deva Curl products are harmful but its a good start.
Giovanna Vignoni I agree with you 100%, I was just saying that I think their overall attitude towards the issue could potentially lead them to make extremely questionable and somewhat illegal decisions in an attempt to make it all go away (we all know that it isn’t though). Have you read their latest statement? They’re so full of themselves and in such a deep state of denial it’s kind of disgusting.
Your headaches could possibly be withdrawal symptoms from whatever chemicals are in the DC products. Scary. Hope things get better.
Withdrawal is usually associated with substance abuse, not just any chemical you take regularly, so it probably wouldn’t apply here. Though I’m no MD.
@@OGSumo Dear, you know when you skip your coffee for one day and get a terrible headache? That's caffeine withdrawal.
Adam Nope I used to take Xanax on the daily, I told my doc I wanted to stop. she warned me about the withdrawals. I felt them. Then I wanted to get off my mood stabilizers so I did, I was once again warned of the withdrawals, I felt them too even tho I slowly lowered my dose to get off. Withdrawals can come from most medications, frequently used or not. it’s ass
Egg Sausage Technically, that *is* substance abuse. It’s not good for you to depend on coffee so much so that you get withdrawal. Though, everyone does it and the effects are super minor most of the time.
Megan Druschel I guess you’re right and I should have been more clear/specific. I should have specified that it’s only applicable to drugs and not do you not need to inherently abuse them.
Although, the normal dosages of most medications are designed to avoid drug dependency, so for certain drugs you need to step outside those boundaries to actually become dependent. Or they need to abruptly stop the medication to experience the actual withdrawal effects since usually the physician will ween them off, avoiding most of the withdrawal symptoms, if not all, but that is not true for all drugs.
To be fair, when I said “usually associated” I had in mind the layperson’s definition and verbiage, where most people often associate it with illegal drugs and abuse. That still doesn’t excuse the misinformation though.Thank you for mentioning and correcting me
Damn it almost look like they put relaxer in their products
Wouldn't be a wild idea....it would keep people buying more and different products having them think I just haven't found the right products.
That's what I was thinking that devacurl could have done
They do. Sodium hydroxide. Chemists say it's a pH adjuster but it makes you wonder. There's also something called Diazolidinyl urea which is in the "One Condition". It's a formaldehyde releaser. Claims to be a preservative. These are my guesses as to what's causing the issues.
The pain in her eyes in this video is so heartbreaking, I just can’t even fathom going through what all these curly girls and boys are going through. I’m glad I never bought devacurl bc it was overpriced and I’m broke, but feel so bad for those who put their trust in the brand, smh I hope you all get compensated for your pain🙏🏼
It's never "just hair". I lost about 2/3 of my hair's volume when I was sick with an eating disorder and getting my hair back was everything. I feel like if you have wavy or curly hair it has an extra special place in your heart.
Well said Gibson. It's "just hair" like my nose is just a nose or my skin is just skin - all extensions of my body and none deserving to be damaged by a cosmetic product.
How long did it take for your hair to grow back? Is it the same thickness?
@@LopsidedCircle it's the same thickness now, it took about a year of treatment that included a dietician to get it all back.
When u said," they have taken away the physical manifestation of my personality without my consent"i felt that....May Allah Almighty heal you and give u relief from this hysteria...Ameen
Ameen
Amien that’s why people need to love the texture of there hair on its own with argan oil and the good things that are said in the Holy Quran.
😭😭😭😭😭😭💔 I don’t even have words
It's not just hair. Besides being very important to most people, hair is attached to a scalp. Applying bad products to said hair can be very dangerous.
I can't believe other women are saying you deserve what happened to you. That's so awful and victim blaming
Ayesha, I know it hurts like hell. I live in Brazil, and as a male in 18 years old I'm doing military service, and for that I had to cut my hair really shortly wich gave me a really sad time. I can feel your pain, because my hair was in thr shoulder and I used to really like that and take care off. I appreciate you for telling the truth and I hope your scalp get better too. I know how it feels to see your effort taken away from you.
Ps: I appreciate you even more now, because you are brave girl. ❤
My scalp feels the same :( almost like someone is constantly pulling at my hair. I thank god that I only ever washed my hair once a week if not slightly longer and I wasn’t using as many deva curl products as most people out there. Since I stoped using it 2 weeks ago the rash on my face and neck has gone away. Now let’s see how long it takes my scalp to stop flacking
it took my scalp a few washes to stop flaking i think about a month? try a castor oil scalp massage before your next wash go in with a cowash then clarify with AVC that was my routine when the scalp damage was really bad. my scalps back to normal now but my hair isn't. I keep deep conditioning and pampering her but nope the curls are damaged.
A rash on your face and neck?????
R B I only used deva products for a little while because I got them for Christmas. I noticed that the next day after washing, my hair would be super greasy
My daughter is flaking too & we stopped a while ago.
Have any of ya’ll heard of a clarifier? If you pile on “co-wash” products, curl gels, creams, and foams on your hair without clarifying it, you’re gonna have a bad time. Same thing happened with Wen. If you’re using a shampoo without sulfates, there’s gonna be hella buildup on your hair and scalp, causing dryness, rashes, flakiness, even hair loss.
I know one little comment from a stranger won't help in any way but just wanted to say how sorry I am that you are going through this. I almost never comment on videos but seeing your pain and frustration breaks my heart and makes me want to offer you support even if it's just a comment. I wish I could give you a long hug and let you cry on my shoulder.
You wanted to tear-up in every moment of the video. Your frustration and disappointment is clearly visible. I'm sorry for your loss but please make more such informative videos so that people stop using these harmful products.
At this point and seeing the effects I'm worried that people affected by this could be at risk of cancer.
Raeven that’s exactly what I was thinking ! More important than the hair, it’s about health first !
My exact thoughts....
Just what I was thinking.
It took decades to finally prove Round Up was causing cancer, or Johnson's baby powder. Now this.
I truly hope not. It's a worry though.
I think they are putting a chemical relaxer in the product.
Sarah Wilks wait what? Johnson’s baby powder causes cancer?????
When I saw that Dr. Dray uploaded that “dermatologist reacts to devacurl scandal” I was fuming. I know that this isn’t caused by “not properly washing hair.” I use to deep clean with buildup buster wondering why my scalp was STILL irritated after using it, why was my scalp still flaking?? I’d have to wash my hair every two days. I had just started using devacurl in July 2019 (when I had just cut my hair) and I was blaming my hair problems on stress. It was so easy to trust devacurl because of its marketing. All a curly haired person wants is a line to trust. From shampoo to styling products. At first it worked for me, so I fell in love with it, now I’m wondering why my curls are harder to style and are losing their shape, are more frizzy, why my scalp is experiencing irritation. It is not because I am not washing my hair correctly. If you do not have curly hair, you have no idea what it feels like to finally accept your hair, to have society accept your hair, and work hard for your hair, to have it all taken away from you.
Ashley YES! I had to unsubscribe to her after that. There was so much misinformation and lack of research on her part it left a really bad taste in my mouth. Especially since she is considered an “expert” and people will take her word on these things without knowing any better. I had a whole comment typed up on her video but decided to leave it be because I’m not looking to argue with people who can’t even take the time to inform themselves on what they feel entitled to speak on. No one will understand these things if they haven’t lived it... especially if they can’t be bothered to research it. But it had a very strong undertone of gaslighting and I’m not here for any of that. How can anyone blame it on “co washing” when so many of us don’t do that and/or only used the styling products?? The argument doesn’t even begin to hold water but it seems so many are just wanting to jump on the bandwagon for RUclips views to benefit from others painful experiences and then they’re on to the next thing to get them views. It was disappointing to say the very least.
God, a line to trust, that sounds about magical. I use a different brand for each step of my routine because most of them have very few products that reach my ingredient standards
Dr. Dray's video is true for many though. There are hundreds of women and men for whom devacurl still works wonders. That's not to say it's not there aren't issues with it but Deva curl stopped working for me and had almost a relaxer effect on my hair. I used sulfated shampoos to recover and clarify. Yes, it worked. Buildup buster is NOT a sulfate product and there are way to many essential oils in it to actually cleanse the scalp without potentially causing an allergic/inflammatory reaponse. I'm not saying Devacurl isn't a damage inducing product at all because it has for me as well. I'm saying people who have been following a strick CGM method have seen this exact type of damage and I think it has to do with the "natural" components of many many curly hair products which are often allergenic and destructive in the long run. This is NOT to diminish the victims of decacurl but it is definitely a caution to those are strict CGM and do not use sulfated shampoos ever.
I love Dr Dray but I got very mad when I saw that video, because I never followed the no poo method but I did use their stylers and I could see my hair pattern was changing, I tried everything bc I didn’t think it was deva curl. She just rambled the whole video about no poo, not knowing the problem is bigger than that.
Allie M I agree. I feel there are issues with the CG method and other products as well. Personally, I have to use shampoo. I tried to stick strictly to the method but I had to find ways to adapt it to my life and hair. Unfortunately, CGM and especially many fb groups dedicated to it have such a cult-like mindset, deviating from it in the slightest is majorly frowned upon and will lead some to even attack you for speaking your own truth. But my issue with Dr. Dray’s video is yes, it may be true for some. Many or most even. But to present it as the ONLY explanation and to dismiss any other possibility is irresponsible. To dismiss all of our experiences who are seeing issues without even being bothered to do a simple internet search to see how deep this stuff runs... It left me questioning so many other things she states as fact and if she does as little background work on those too. I feel she has her textbook based knowledge and isn’t open to considering anything outside of what is an easy answer. Like many doctors unfortunately. They’re quick to throw things at a problem without truly listening to the patient’s symptoms or concerns. Without ever going back to see if things have changed recently or there’s new research that makes the things they learned outdated. But if you have time to make RUclips videos and speak from a place of true educated knowledge, I expect more research. If I can quickly and easily see through her superficial explanation and realize she did no digging for any of her opinions... I have to question how reliable of a source she is for other things as well. I feel like it was a missed opportunity to educate herself and her audience if she was choosing to speak on these topics that she obviously has no first hand knowledge of. As a doctor I expected her to focus more on the health concerns but I can only assume being a dermatologist, her expertise is limited to the skin concerns. You would think someone who personally is dealing with thinning hair would at least be a bit more empathetic, though.
I can't thank you enough for speaking out!!!!! I found your first You Tube video addressing the DC problems this evening while I was looking for reviews on Surface's Awaken treatment line for hair loss. Your video was the first time I had heard about problems with DC. This is horrific!!! I have always been so careful with my hair, willing to spend money on great quality products and used DC for YEARS believing it to be a superior product. I never would have considered it being responsible for my bald spots, itchy scalp and changes in texture and attributed it to stress or age. About 2-3 years ago I noticed a change in the quality of the product, realizing they must have changed the formula, but kept using it unfortunately.
I think "tested for safety" is a technicality. I will have to check the legal definition, but I wouldn't be surprised if "safety" only referred to SUPER severe reactions and death. People don't take hair identity and care seriously so they likely dismissed their bad product reactions by saying "oh but LEGALLY it's fine hehe"
Tested to make sure it won't blow up.
They won‘t look at the long term affects. They just checking if your Body reacts allergic to it
Girl, we got your back. Don't listen to the negativity. You have been through enough. We love you and we stand with you in this matter. Much love and positivity to you, you're in my prayers ❤️🙏
The people saying your overreacting must has straight hair, it’s a lot of work caring for curly hair and it grows super slow. I wish you well and i hope devacurl gets this fixed.
Horrorlover97 I have big curly hair just like hers and I think she’s overreacting
Ivanneth Suyin shut up you imbecile, fuck you
@@Susumagoo9 How would you feel if after a LONG time of transitioning from straight looking, damaged hair to your natural curly hair state and its finally perfect. You trust in these products SO much and have been loyal to them. And one day your hair just starts falling out. IT IS HORRIBLE. And the worst thing is that her scalp is hurting her. Its PAINFUL. Its not just the look. And sure hair is not the most important thing. But it forms part of your daily appearance. And it hurts for something that you have been working on FOREVER, just slips away. So please, don't say she's overeacting. You don't know how she feels.
She’s overreacting, no I don’t have straight hair. Allow people to have their opinions just like you have your own.
Halo2glitchlover22 you kiss your mother with that mouth?
This is more serious then people realise because curly hair is such a big statement especially when it part of your racial characteristic.
Would love to know what products you are using now to help your damaged hair as well what others are using. A friend of mine been using pureplex like oplex that really helped her x
Olaplex?
I worked as a hair model at a Hair show in 2018, DevaCurl was set up right across from the company I was working for. The stylist that I was working with (who has done my hair since I was a young child) was telling me about how dangerous their products were (well are). There need to be laws regulating what goes into hair products and their packaging. I downloaded the app you were mentioned about last time and it’s shocking how common these dangerous chemicals are.
There are lots and lots of regulations. Chemicals aren`t the problem, everything is a chemical, even water. That app is the worst, so misleading and anti scientific. I think the problem may have been that DevaCurl changed formulations without disclosing it
@@elisazolo5762 You've got a point there: the term "chemical" seems often way overused and abused. And also, I haven't tried the app myself (I'm Italian and here we use another one for more or less the same purpose) but so far what seems wrong with it to me is the terminology itself: why be so extreme and call an ingredient "dirty"? It's just chemicals, taken singularly it's just an ingredient; Yes, it may be "polluting and/or potentially dangerous for the hair and skin" but going about calling it "dirty" seems to me like wanting to appeal to the most immediate emotional of people. If anything is dirty is the intentions or negligence of who let the products with those potentially harmful ingredients out for, of course, profit.
Also pt.2, there may be tons of regulations as you say, but still, compared to Europe.. It just sounds like it's less strict and safe, honestly. I don't know how people can trust the products they use there
And yeah, it's obviously really sneaky and bad to change your formula without disclosing it
@@MyCrystalSwan yes! I totally agree that using the word "dirty" is extreme to say the least. I don't know about regulations in Europe, I'm actually from Argentina, and it's not clear what are the regulations here. As far as I know, we can buy european sunscreens, which I know are diferent (and better) from the ones in the US due to US regulations. Anyways, I don't think the so called "dirty" ingredients are the culprit of the hair damage, but we'll have to wait the results of lab tests
Thank you for saying that it isn't about still being pretty or having "pretty" hair or being goals because how about how we feel?! all the work we have put in! I don't want to be compared just acknowledged.
I know this was hard for you to share, but I just started using devacurl. I saw your video and threw the products away. I thought my frizzy waves were just starting a new product line, thank you for saving my hair.
Juliet Smith Try and keep the products ! Don’t throw them yet. Just don’t use them !
@@ekisharajendran6083 I forgot they might so testing but I will not be part of the lawsuit as I only used them for 3 weeks. Washed my hair last night with the Pacifica Curls set and it looks great. They are in the bathroom trash though so they aren't out of the house yet.
Juliet Smith NOOOO there’s a lawsuit keep your products and receipts!!
If devacurl causes headaches, then that would may explain really bad headaches I experienced during my time period using devacurl products. I haven’t experienced them since. Fortunately, I didn’t use them very long because of how expensive they are. So sorry for all of the damage! 😭💔
When you said “I don’t have curly hair anymore” I almost cried. My wash day hair literally looks like your new 4th day hair. I’ve been loosing SOOOOO MIUUUCH HAIR!! Thank god my hairs thick so if you don’t know me you can’t tell. I’ve been blaming my problems on bleaching (haven’t bleached my hair in over 6 months) and the dry winter season, but guess what I recently cashed out on cause my regular beauty supply was closing down? BOXES FULL OF DEVACURL!! So I was using the whole line, the no poo kit, whipped curl foam, pomade, leave-in conditioner, everything. Idk what this did to my hair, but it’s so damaged that my hair still feels dry and crunch even when it’s wet with my go-to mask STILL IN IT. My hairs so bad now that right out the shower my bf asked me if I straightened my hair. I almost cried. The first time I used the no poo I noticed the burning immediately I thought it was infused w mint but guess what? It’s not and I’m still suffering from headaches and my scalp is hella sensitive to the touch
UPDATE my hair is growing out wirey and grey to and no one else in my fam has this problem!!! 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
I'm so sorry : ( I truly hope you're able to find a solution to your problem and that your hair gets better. This is so unfortunate : (
Emily -emy- Hood thank you 💜
goodness! i'm so sorry 💔💔
i really hope that you will successfully recover and your hair will be healthier than you could have possibly imagined. i wish you good fortune on your journey. 💖
I'm so sorry to hear this ;( as a curly girl I could understand what youre feeling. I hope everything get better I'm sending lots of love 💖
It's been found out that devacurl has put relaxers I their products obviously straightened th3 hair and constantly using it damaged the hair because of the chemicals. In so sorry that this has happened to you and I hope that you can recover💕
I had to cut off 7 inches from 5 months of DevaCurl. Keep Telling your truth because this is crazy!
I cut off 10 inches
please tell me your hair is looking and feeling healthier now! I'm going to do the same thing!
@@leahblatteis1244 It is getting back to normal. Ive been soaking it in coconut oil at least twice a week and its seemed to help bring back some moisture.
@@leahblatteis1244 my hair looks and feels better but it won't be actually healthy until all of the deva damage has been cut off
I hear the pain in your voice and it makes me want to cry. I am so sorry this has happened to you and I pray that you can find some comfort in life again. I hope DevaCurl gets recalled soon because what has happened to your hair and the thousands of other girls hair should not be allowed. Sending you love and strength ❤️
Hair is very important for women. Is something important for women? So is belittled, is treated like something childish and fool, so is mocked and unimportant. This is how it is for everything that affects a woman. Don't ever feel guilty because you're sad about your hair. Your hair is important. You are important. Wish you well!
this is so devastating. I’ve only used devacurl for around 6 months now and my hair is ruined. I used to have gorgeous lovely curls and now just a day after wash day it’s frizzy, looks almost dread-ish, and just doesn’t look good. It’s cause me so much (mental) pain and exhaustion. My hair is thin now, it used to be so thick and healthy. I have a hard time not tearing up just thinking about the damage. I thought there was just some hormonal imbalance or something and it was MY fault. I miss MY hair. I wish this wasn’t real. my hair has consistently been coming out more when brushing in the shower. Thank you so much for posting these videos. I’m so sorry for your hair damage and I can feel your pain. I don’t even know what to do. I just hope this damage can be healed. For me, you, and all of my curly haired girls out there. :( ❤️
im so sorry for you :(
Thank you for bringing up the No Poo issue! I couldn’t believe Dr Dray put out a video promoting the idea that ALL OF US are having these issues because we aren’t properly cleansing our scalp. Sooo wrong on that one.
I sed this too, I can't believe that people let Dr Dray get away with those comments about curly hair girls not washing thier hair, so basically were just dirty and we never wash! I mean these kind of comments are very peejudiced and I can't believe in 2020 she sed this and then there was naturals supporting her comments and I was shocked!😱
Kara Creswell I’m shocked a licensed doctor would dismiss a mass group of people’s pain so easily and with such callousness. She didn’t even have all of the facts just a quick google search. A lot of people are experiencing damage just from the styling products but she ignored all of that and just said it’s build up? Build up doesn’t completely erase a curl pattern just ridiculous. Now more people will feel “crazy” if they want to speak out. A doctor should know better.
@@hellowilson5335 she would be the least empathetic doc I mean I wouldn't want her as my derm or anything, she is stone cold! I realised after that Deva curl video she made that her advice about anything is just theoretical knowledge and text books, shes a robot, I unsubscribed from her
To be honest, I believe what she said about scalp build up. It made sense to me. I’ve was struggling with scalp issues and hair loss since starting CGM, despite never using DevaCurl before. Once I started clarifying with sulfates more often and using tea tree oil my scalp has been healthier.
I agree that she didn’t look at all the issues though and didn’t explain change of hair texture. There definitely seems to be a lot more going on with DevaCurl, but in my experience, scalp issues can be caused by not clarifying regularly.
@@cealabeala4367 I experienced the same thing!
Of course it is wrong to dismiss everyone with damage from DevaCurl, and people DO clean their scalps properly and still end up with damage. However, I will say when I first started getting into curly hair care, I tried only using co-washes and steering away from any real shampoo and I experienced a lot of scalp pain and itching after a few weeks. "Clarifying" rinses with ACV and scalp massages with oil did not stop the pain. I eventually decided that no poo was not for me and switched to a gentle shampoo with lather and this went away.
I was a die hard DevaCurl user. I put my mom and cousins onto Deva (everyone except for my mom has stopped using it). About 2-3 years ago Deva stopped working for me and even damaged my curls! This felt completely out of the blue for absolutely no reason at all. I rationalized that it couldn't be the Deva, but other products I was using/trying with the Deva. I stopped using the extra products and only Deva, which made my hair WORSE! I stopped using DevaCurl all together and wouldn't you know my curls slowly came back, but not fully. I thought I was crazy and I was the only one.
Without this I would have never known that I wasn't the only person having issues with the products. I am so sorry this happened to you. Thank you for sharing your story!
Same here!! I was religiously using Deva back in 2014, in late 2016/early 17 I found that my hair was getting limp and wavy instead of the tight curls I had. I continued to use it because I thought it was because I moved from the UK back to Canada and blamed it on the climate. Early 2018 I stopped using Devacurl no poo and conditioner because it wasn't getting any better.... halfway through 2018 I was getting scalp sores at the nape of my neck every time I was using their gel. Now in 2020, I still have sores time to time and my hair is nowhere near where it used to be. I am just glad I wasn't the only one as every curly girl I spoke to around me was calling me crazy.
@@jessicaarruda2828 OH NO!! I am so sorry that happened to you. I hope it gets better soon:)
I just wanted to let you know Ayesha that you've managed to save at least one head of hair with your videos. Thank you!
My sister got me devacurl products for Christmas because I've been trying to embrace my curly hair a lot more. I've been too terrified to use them, and I don't know what to do with them since I'm Canadian and unsure if I would even qualify for any sort of recall.
I hope that some positive karma comes your way soon. You deserve it.
I am so sorry it’s never “just hair” people that say that must obviously never have experienced this. I too like you identified by my hair. I worked so so so hard to pamper my hair and try and bring it to super health. People have asked me my routine I used these products on my fucking children! On my nieces on my nephews.... it’s so dangerous and disgusting that they placate us with “these products are rigorously tested for safety” are they going to say that when women like me are having thyroid issues.... my thyroid has never been a problem! I am 30! I workout daily I eat healthy and have had hormone issues so bad lately we had problems getting pregnant. This product is ruining people’s lives it’s not just hair and I feel your anger and pain on the deepest level. I have been oiling and just praying that I can revive my hair with the products I am using. But what about my health.... I know lots of things cause health issues but we never knowingly used oils expose ourselves to carcinogens and chemicals.. certainly not our children. My hair has broken off so badly that if I cut it any shorter I would die from humiliation. I have wanted my entire life to have long luscious hair and I may never have that now because of this company.
This is so sad, I hope you can recover and that your family is safe. One of the most disgusting things about this company is the way they are gaslighting people who ask them what the hell is going on. They're not only ruining people's hair (and goddess knows what other symptoms there'll be), they're also making people question their sanity.
Also when politicians brag about ending “job killing regulations” this makes me angry. We need better regulations not less. We need protection from bad business and cheap dangerous ingredients and packages.
It's all about the Benjamins. They don't care about science or our safety. Just a bunch of old white men making women's health decisions for them.
Jennifer M Thé worst part is that some people defend those mens’ policies 🤦♀️
@@k.d3983 Exactly.
Yeah I really dislike when politicians say “we’re cutting regulations on big companies!” Dude we need those regulations because clearly, big companies can’t be trusted 😒
Omg, it's worse than what I imagined
Zero victim shaming 🙅🏻♀️and 100% support❤️
Even in my most insecure and darkest days, my hair was the only thing I had confidence in. It is a manifestation of ones personality, and I've seen it represent my mental health really well. You are not hysterical, you are justified
Your hysteria is so warranted 😭😭 I feel your pain. I never realized how much my hair meant to me until it was destroyed
The stress is affecting your whole body. Praying your hair and health comes back.
God. I don’t even know what to say. I can’t even imagine what this is like. I’m a girl who has always hated her hair, always thought of it as one of my biggest insecurities. I have a scalp condition similar to yours right now, and my regular hair looks a bit like this. I would never wish my hair and scalp on anyone. It pains me to see that your biggest pride and joy, your entire life has been reduced to this. I sincerely hope that your hair and scalp will recover, and that your hair will return to its beautiful state once again 🥺