Will a Pro Press Fitting with NO O-Ring Leak? Lets Find Out. Using iCrimps Manual Pro Press!
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They will eventually fail. We had to do a re-pipe on a house where the plumber thought it was a good idea to remove the O-rings because he had previously had issues with them failing in areas that use break point chlorination. His solution... Remove the O ring altogether. It works for a while, but as the pipe vibrates, expands, contracts etc they work themselves loose. They lasted for about a year before they all started coming undone, which is impressive, but absolutely do not install these without the O ring. The O ring also acts as an isolator and increases the coefficient of friction between the fitting and the pipe.
Excellent response
Of course will because they leak with the O ring . One reason why they are only guaranteed for as long as they are
ProPress o-rings are EPDM, not resistant to chlorinated hydrocarbons among other things (oils/solvents mainly).
HOWEVER, Viega sells FKM o-rings, which are very resistant to these.
You can see from this video how easy they are to remove and change! Don't use one without a seal - just get the right tool for the job.
35psi is very low. In our area of CO the regulators are set to 75psi in the house.
in phoenix, we see up to 100 psi, sometimes a little more. pressure reducers are common here
I've seen solder joints that were not soldered and still didn't leak right away. So the question is do you trust it enough to leave it so you get a call in the middle of the night my house is flooded. Then the insurance company has the water damag company come and rip out the damage dry it out for a few weeks charging for said equipment per hour until it is dry then the build back. Would it not make more sense to just solder the joints and for get about it.
The dramatic music was so dramatic lol
Such a cool experiment
Are the fittings interchangeable between brands of press tools? For instance, is anyone using Apollo pex adapters for 1/2 with something like the RP 115?
You should probably up the test to 100psi as well.
pull a vacuum on it for a few days
How do you like that manual pro press? Thinking of getting one for smaller jobs
Honestly, it pretty nice. The crimps are very solid and no shape burrs. And I haven’t had any leaks with it yet!
I know some manual pro presses are dog sh*t but so far I’m liking this one
@@APplumbing00 would you use it on a customers plumbing? Do you trust it that much? I appreciate the response
@@Plumb_AZ I’ve used it before I had a video using it on a water heater water connection with good results 👍🏼 appreciate you watchin
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you genius
fren, this is impressive stuff but i wouldn't trust it.. better off with standard compression nut cos it is screwed on and tight... a crimp can fail any time.. i know this from doing fuseboxes
Next video: Pull the orings and see if it's possible to solder a propress fitting. I'm guessing it would not go well, but it would be interesting to see the results.
Very interesting
You can absolutely solder on press fittings. I personally haven’t done it but I have seen it done before. You just have to use a little more solder than you would on a normal sweat fitting in order to fill the gap where the o ring would sit but it can be done
@@lukemagee1566 I would imagine you also need to prep the fittings just like normally soldered joints, although I'm sure some bozo will scream otherwise.
@@rupe53 yes that is correct
The o ring is what seals it just like a shark bite. So th system lasts as long as the o ring
Reality, over the years we have seen many "best solutions" to water piping. Galvanized steel was a wonder in its day. Copper, and knock off copper, all kinds of plastic, pex, different pex, now different copper fittings. Every thing will need replacement down the road. Copper fittings blame will be pipe thermal growth and contraction.
Why, why would you remove the o rings!?
I'd rather just use compression fittings without the electric press
no leaks, about 35 psi, is comfortable doing this in his own home... good on you, but I hope your homeowner's insurance covers water damage from intentional stupidity - the o-rings are there FOR A REASON...
Yeah I wouldn’t recommend installing it for a job
Why would you install a pro press fitting without the o ring. A few years ago I visited the Production halls from Viega and it was incredible. So much precision and quality. I think that's what we Germans are known for until now. But it is going downwards because of uncontrolled mass migration from the Arabic countries 😔
It's to prove even if you knick the o-ring, it'll probably not leak.
those handles extend on the tool.......the o ring is just a backup ...the crimping is so tight it fuses the copper together ..
Correct!
If this were true, tell me why, when there is a frozen pipe situation, the Pro Press fitting always blows off of the copper before the copper has a chance to split. The fitting does not fuse to the tubing. The fitting is just held in-place by the crimp and sealed with the O-Ring. Also, there are several situations where you can wiggle or twist a pressed fitting without causing a leak. If it was fused, this would be impossible to do. In this case, it is obvious the joint is being sealed by the O-Ring. Just because this guy did the stupid Tik-Tok-like “Pro Press No-O-Ring Challenge” and showed no obvious or immediate signs of leaks with water (not air) at about 37psi does not prove the system will work without O-Rings. I suggest you try installing an entire plumbing system this way, test it with air at 150psi, then see how much time and money it costs you to do it all over again…properly.
Without heat or chemical catalyst, what would possibly cause the copper pieces to fuse?
Go ahead - plumb an entire hospital without using O-Rings in your Pro Press fittings and let us all know how that works out for you.
Lol I’d def not do that
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