Bay Tech, you have no idea the talent this artist really has if you don't take the time to watch the series of videos he posted as he took a relatively stock Wilga and turned into the BEAST that Draco really is!! Granted, this guy and his twin brother Mark, are a bit 'over-enthusiastic" or maybe it's just a touch hyper, but Mike channels that personality into an amazingly productive, artistic drive that results in a couple (all that I've seen so far...) of spectacular aircraft. Check out: ruclips.net/video/pK-BqiQAy0E/видео.html to see the first in his series of 17 videos (if you include his test flight) as he recreated his Wilga "Draco."
Thankfully I had the chance to check it out and enjoyed it so much I watched them all the way through, maybe a couple I haven't finished watching but none the less had me glued to the screen for hours. But definitely agree if someone wants to see his craft in action definitely check out his build series. Mike is a cool dude with an awesome personality to go with his awesome work.
I may be guilty of the "Tall poppy syndrome"... (you know, if someone thinks the poppies are growing too well, it is always the tallest one they knock the head off with a stick!) The first time I watched Mike on RUclips I couldn't believe there was not a darker side underneath all that enthusiasm. I have now seen many hours of videos he has created or appeared in; both good times and bad. Never seen anything but a talented, enthustiastic, helpful human.
These are some interesting numbers... What I would like to know is what his technique for "re-entry" (into the atmosphere) is... Retro-rockets, tail-feathering perhaps or a succession of canopies to slow it down...? How long would it take him to get to mars etc, etc. On a serious note, well done Mike! This is the stuff aviation wet dreams are made of. Hope to see turbulence one day with a -67P or even a TPE331-14 out the front :)
Ahaaaaa who says money does not buy happiness... Mike seems like a nice guy.... not jealous..... just admire folks enjoying their money and doing worth while things with it.
@@TheCallMeCrazy Yes I know what Mike does, and his MP Modified planes (no original design but highly modified) are one of a kind, agree. However with enough money you can hire people and have any custom plane you want. With that said Mike is one of a kind, and it won't be a Mike Patey design/build. His skill and creativity is not related to money but talent, drive and strong work ethic... and a good attitude. You can build cool planes for much less money just not with a PT6 or an Inst panel that shames the best Biz Jet or Airliner.
@ Joseph Ho Aspen three zero we show you at 1,992 knts. ......... Across the ground. The King of Speed lived . The Navy had been slain and a crew had been formed.
@@ke6gwf Pretty damned much. I mean, you could go out and buy a surplus supersonic Cold War jet. And you'd go faster than Turbulence. But Mike did all the shade tree engineering himself, and built it himself, and flight-tested it himself. And I think that's worth a couple hundred knots worth of bragging rights.
This is faster than the old fighters. The fastest Typhoon recorded was a clipped wing version (better low altitude performance) and it hit 352 knots max cruise. Mike's plane is a full 30 knots faster than a standard Typhoon, 10 knots faster than a tricked out p47 Thunderbolt, and can climb on an entirely different level.
Just imagine how Bob Johnson (WWII Top Ace, flying a P47 Thunderbolt) would have dreamed to have that kind of performance. I read his biography many years ago, and he talked about how the Spitfire pilots loved to out-climb them early in the war. He could drop past them like a jet-propelled rock in a dive but they would always get away after they pulled up... then his plane was updated!! Aside from the engine upgrades, the replaced the 3-bladed prop with four huge paddles. He said the at the next opportunity, he a some unsuspecting Spitfire pilot took off together and the British pilot smiled and waved, expecting to climb up-up-and-away. Bob layed on the throttle and blasted past him and just kept on going... they had a very entertaining conversation in Officers Club that evening! If Mike's performance envelope had been available in the early 1940's, WWII air combat would have been much different!
I'd love to be the controller for his area. The first time someone saw that on radar they probably thought it was a missile going into orbit or something.
@@Hyperious_in_the_air That would also be impressive to someone on the ground. I noticed, at my local airport, that some corporate jets climbed very fast and some just did a cruise climb when leaving. One day I asked a corporate pilot about this. He just smiled and didn't say much but admitted that some executives liked a fast climb and some didn't want to spill their coffee. 😇
555Trout: Quote from a PT6 Nation article: "Mike set the world record for average speed in a single-engine turboprop plane - his unique, PT6A-powered “Turbulence”". 438.2mph. Stunning!
This man is insane in the best possible way. HTF did he clear it for flutter? I'm sure the lancair was not designed for these speeds. This is not something you solve on a cocktail napkin! Anyway, he is alive so he must have done it. Just....wow.
Rv4 Guy actually the Legacy and IV-P are both designed for the speeds Mike is achieving. The Legacy is the basis for many planes competing in the Reno air races and has been for years. I believe Mike’s plane is based on the Super Legacy platform, and planes like “Lucky Two” and “One Moment” we’re turning speeds well in excess of 350 kts. Even my LNC 360 cruises at 215 kts, and it’s got a lowly IO-360 piston engine. I’m wondering if I could use that little Rolls Royce M250 turbine instead when it comes time to rebuild the Lycoming. It might be nice to have 420 to 450 SHP on tap for a reliable 250 KTAS cruise on around 15 gph. One can dream...
@@WereAllThatBored I got diagnosed and what I learned is that focus is key. It is really about doing one thing at a time and letting your brain focus. Takes a lot of work but worth it.
Is it unpressurized? Imagine a pressurized glider style reclined tandem with two small turbofan jets though and skinny small wings. woven carbon fiber fuselage, light as a feather.
373...*KNOTS*!!!! At what altitude? Awesome. What PT dash # and what horsepower are you using Mike? I've got to come by and meet you at the next AirVenture (currently fly a Pitts and an old Bellanca Turbo Viking but and looking at building a fast two seater) had been thinking Glasair, but your airplane is giving me second thoughts...
That is an exciting beast indeed. In Eclipse race video Turbulance shows a little under 4000fpm pitched for 200knts rather than north of 7000 at 200 here. What is the story gents??
There's a big difference between the weight of a given column of air and a given column of water. A square inch column of air at sea level only weighs approximately 15#'s. I did a little research and apparently in water an atmosphere equivalent of water weight is 30 feet. So climbing rapidly to 18,000 might be a problem if you can't clear your ears but going up and down rapidly from that altitude isn't an issue as far as gases in your blood stream because the pressure difference isn't really that significant. Remember 18,000 feet would only be a partial atmosphere in air. So climbing and descending rapidly from 18,000 feet would probably be like diving and surfacing 10 feet, probably less.
It isn't really an issue at 18000 feet. However, dropping from 25000 to ground can give you the bends at least in skydiving (Halo) jumps. Hence why we use oxygen tanks. If I remember correctly, Mike also has oxygen onboard his plane Turbulence as well as Draco.
Free-falling and descending into higher pressures does not cause the bends. Bends are caused by nitrogen escaping from body tissues and into the blood too quickly, as in reduced external pressures (ascending in altitude). You breath oxygen prior to the jump because you need to purge the nitrogen from your body prior to depressurizing and the lack of oxygen in the air would cause rapid hypoxia.
@@Tuxedomakdarien increasing pressure - high altitude to low - won't give you the bends. That occurs when nitrogen in the blood stream forms bubbles as a result of a rapid drop in pressure. Oxygen is required at high altitude to keep you conscious, not to prevent the bends.
Aldion Sylkaj yeah but the legacy weighs half as much as the zero, and the aerodynamics of the airframe is like comparing a Jeep to a Ferrari formula one car.
Of course since he is heading eastbound and still VFR, 17500 is the highest altitude for VFR flight. If he was heading westbound the highest he could go VFR would be 16500
Turbines love it up high, much more efficent at higher altitudes. depends on the plane, if pressurized, or if he has an oxygen system installed. The higher they go, the better they run
Brian McGee -- turbines, yes. Propellers, not so much. Around the area of 40,000 feet is about the highest a typical turbo-prop will go. Purpose built high altitude propeller test planes have reached 80,000 feet, but that's like the Grob Strato with 20 foot propellers. I'm guessing it effectively tops out in the mid 30s. He said he was going IFR in class A, so he certainly has oxygen.
the more I see this guy the more I like him.
IKR! I just saw his bush plane the DRACO and omfg this dude is an artist
Bay Tech, you have no idea the talent this artist really has if you don't take the time to watch the series of videos he posted as he took a relatively stock Wilga and turned into the BEAST that Draco really is!! Granted, this guy and his twin brother Mark, are a bit 'over-enthusiastic" or maybe it's just a touch hyper, but Mike channels that personality into an amazingly productive, artistic drive that results in a couple (all that I've seen so far...) of spectacular aircraft.
Check out: ruclips.net/video/pK-BqiQAy0E/видео.html to see the first in his series of 17 videos (if you include his test flight) as he recreated his Wilga "Draco."
Thankfully I had the chance to check it out and enjoyed it so much I watched them all the way through, maybe a couple I haven't finished watching but none the less had me glued to the screen for hours. But definitely agree if someone wants to see his craft in action definitely check out his build series. Mike is a cool dude with an awesome personality to go with his awesome work.
You need to follow Mike and Mark. Mike is building a new aircraft called "Scrappy." It's a Carbon Cub on steroids.
I may be guilty of the "Tall poppy syndrome"... (you know, if someone thinks the poppies are growing too well, it is always the tallest one they knock the head off with a stick!)
The first time I watched Mike on RUclips I couldn't believe there was not a darker side underneath all that enthusiasm. I have now seen many hours of videos he has created or appeared in; both good times and bad. Never seen anything but a talented, enthustiastic, helpful human.
RUclips loves mike Patey. Awesome airplanes, an awesome guy!
Okay I was heavily laughing listening to Mike describing his communication with ATC climbing at 8k a minute! Classic!
... 8000 ft/min. That is absolutely bonkers! By the way, Mike Patey has an awesome RUclips channcel if you don't already know it.
These are some interesting numbers... What I would like to know is what his technique for "re-entry" (into the atmosphere) is... Retro-rockets, tail-feathering perhaps or a succession of canopies to slow it down...? How long would it take him to get to mars etc, etc.
On a serious note, well done Mike! This is the stuff aviation wet dreams are made of. Hope to see turbulence one day with a -67P or even a TPE331-14 out the front :)
Chris K He did the Castle Run in 13 parsecs, the Millennium Falcon just barely beat his record.
The coolest guy in aviation or in general. Reminds me of my pops but mike is way younger, lol.
I pretty much want to be Mike.
He is 100% living the dream
Mike has the true excellence of a real, great attitude about life, with none of the phoniness of a politician, salesman or preacher.
I would love to work with the Patey brothers for a few months to learn a bit from them
Such a passionate pilot! Inspiring! Tks for the video, beautiful skies ahead, fly safe! ;-)
Ahaaaaa who says money does not buy happiness... Mike seems like a nice guy.... not jealous..... just admire folks enjoying their money and doing worth while things with it.
Money can't buy that plane, my guy. Mike designs and fabricates huge portions of his aircraft...almost the entire thing on his latest build.
@@TheCallMeCrazy Yes I know what Mike does, and his MP Modified planes (no original design but highly modified) are one of a kind, agree. However with enough money you can hire people and have any custom plane you want. With that said Mike is one of a kind, and it won't be a Mike Patey design/build. His skill and creativity is not related to money but talent, drive and strong work ethic... and a good attitude. You can build cool planes for much less money just not with a PT6 or an Inst panel that shames the best Biz Jet or Airliner.
He flew over my house one time in this thing and you cant miss it. It sounds unreal! He was flying VFR low so it was very impressive.
Mike is one of the few Aviation Kings....
Just don't ask him what kind of weather to take off in.
WoW I would love to see this in action! More videos of Turbulence please.
Im imagining the atc guy just going "wut"
There are old pilots and there are bold pilots.......and now there is Mike Patey
How cool is that! What a way to travel!
LA Center, ground speed check please, Aspen 21
AMEN. Thanks for mentioning that one.
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Joseph Ho
Aspen three zero we show you at 1,992 knts. ......... Across the ground.
The King of Speed lived . The Navy had been slain and a crew had been formed.
Love that story! "we are showing closer to 2000 knots" Got to love the SR-71 :-))
The only story that can upstage this one lol
@@ke6gwf Pretty damned much.
I mean, you could go out and buy a surplus supersonic Cold War jet. And you'd go faster than Turbulence.
But Mike did all the shade tree engineering himself, and built it himself, and flight-tested it himself. And I think that's worth a couple hundred knots worth of bragging rights.
Dude that's amazing...
What a lovely guy!
Should have named it TurbuLANCE. Awesome toy :)
Saw his Sheppard the other day our dog is a exact match
I wish I had a tenth of this dudes brain power .
This thing keeps up with F 15s and P-51 Mustangs. 8000 feet a minute? Wow
I thought he was going to say he was on his way back down to land before he got his IFR clearance.
And now he built the baddest STOL plane ever. DRACO FTW!
That's the baddest bush plane on the planet.
You know he crashed it right?
You put Mike Patey on and a T'Up is guaranteed.
As fast as the fastest late fighters from WWII, like a hawker typhoon or sea fury, pretty impressive.
This is faster than the old fighters.
The fastest Typhoon recorded was a clipped wing version (better low altitude performance) and it hit 352 knots max cruise.
Mike's plane is a full 30 knots faster than a standard Typhoon, 10 knots faster than a tricked out p47 Thunderbolt, and can climb on an entirely different level.
Just imagine how Bob Johnson (WWII Top Ace, flying a P47 Thunderbolt) would have dreamed to have that kind of performance. I read his biography many years ago, and he talked about how the Spitfire pilots loved to out-climb them early in the war. He could drop past them like a jet-propelled rock in a dive but they would always get away after they pulled up... then his plane was updated!! Aside from the engine upgrades, the replaced the 3-bladed prop with four huge paddles. He said the at the next opportunity, he a some unsuspecting Spitfire pilot took off together and the British pilot smiled and waved, expecting to climb up-up-and-away. Bob layed on the throttle and blasted past him and just kept on going... they had a very entertaining conversation in Officers Club that evening!
If Mike's performance envelope had been available in the early 1940's, WWII air combat would have been much different!
And crazy climb rates of 8000 ft/min ! or did i hear correctly ? :)
Great story about climbing; such things keep the ATC people awake and alert.
I'd love to be the controller for his area. The first time someone saw that on radar they probably thought it was a missile going into orbit or something.
@@Hyperious_in_the_air That would also be impressive to someone on the ground. I noticed, at my local airport, that some corporate jets climbed very fast and some just did a cruise climb when leaving. One day I asked a corporate pilot about this. He just smiled and didn't say much but admitted that some executives liked a fast climb and some didn't want to spill their coffee. 😇
Wing-rockin' hardcore!
what a dream plane
Damn !...............to have such “problems” !
Wow! Just awesome.
Great to see the plane again but now, knowing Mike is selling it, wonder what the next super fast project will be!
That's the fastest turboprop I've ever heard of.
That's because it is. World record holder, well until Mike gets his next one done (He sold Turbulence, and is building a plane to beat it).
@@Joe-vf8ux man, you'd think that's pushing things with prop speed and forces.
555Trout: Quote from a PT6 Nation article: "Mike set the world record for average speed in a single-engine turboprop plane - his unique, PT6A-powered “Turbulence”". 438.2mph.
Stunning!
@@PiefacePete46 Unbeleivable!
Not very efficient, but with an engine that big, the performance is absolutely awesome.
I don’t think efficiency was on his mind when he designed it LOL
Dude is already in Texas as the IFR clearance is coming through.
Thats so freaking fast
i need a video of that thing climbing
Christopher Bazaka: At that rate of climb it would be a short video! :o)
will be a good plane for student pilots
Salt Lake 77MM requesting to hold at 17.5 for a few minutes, I've got a little case of the bends I need to clear.
This man is insane in the best possible way. HTF did he clear it for flutter? I'm sure the lancair was not designed for these speeds. This is not something you solve on a cocktail napkin! Anyway, he is alive so he must have done it. Just....wow.
Rv4 Guy actually the Legacy and IV-P are both designed for the speeds Mike is achieving. The Legacy is the basis for many planes competing in the Reno air races and has been for years. I believe Mike’s plane is based on the Super Legacy platform, and planes like “Lucky Two” and “One Moment” we’re turning speeds well in excess of 350 kts. Even my LNC 360 cruises at 215 kts, and it’s got a lowly IO-360 piston engine. I’m wondering if I could use that little Rolls Royce M250 turbine instead when it comes time to rebuild the Lycoming. It might be nice to have 420 to 450 SHP on tap for a reliable 250 KTAS cruise on around 15 gph. One can dream...
When Mike speaks numbers that make sense to me.
I am not a full scale pilot but I am an engineer.
Funny part is he's not an engineer. College drop out, ADHD diagnosis, he learned how to focus his ADHD brain and never looked back. Really cool story.
@@WereAllThatBored I got diagnosed and what I learned is that focus is key. It is really about doing one thing at a time and letting your brain focus. Takes a lot of work but worth it.
@@WereAllThatBored where did you read this story or where did you hear about it?
Farmer Fpv I googled his bio after I saw his first video because I wanted to know who he was and how he got where he is
Ya I mean my Archer takes about 40nm to climb to 10.5 from 2 so you know, pretty similar if you ask me. Lol
I wish daddy coulda heard that one.
Is it unpressurized?
Imagine a pressurized glider style reclined tandem with two small turbofan jets though and skinny small wings. woven carbon fiber fuselage, light as a feather.
Plot twist: in 6 years this plane will attempt to kill him. He outsmarted the plane and cheated death. Mike wins.
373...*KNOTS*!!!! At what altitude? Awesome. What PT dash # and what horsepower are you using Mike? I've got to come by and meet you at the next AirVenture (currently fly a Pitts and an old Bellanca Turbo Viking but and looking at building a fast two seater) had been thinking Glasair, but your airplane is giving me second thoughts...
Cruise altitude almost certainly in the mid 20's. The -42 is rated at 850hp.
The eclipse race he had 680hp
And he recently bought it back LOL
That is an exciting beast indeed. In Eclipse race video Turbulance shows a little under 4000fpm pitched for 200knts rather than north of 7000 at 200 here. What is the story gents??
He was climbing at 350knts at 4000fpm. He does that while hes racing needs to keep the speed up.
It had a PT6A-28 at 680 hp back then.
He has a video about that on his channel.
TPE 331 would be much faster , fuel efficient, and you have instant throttle response. Don't know why everyone loves the pt6 so much,
It may be the noise at idle and taxiing.
I agree the TPE331 is more efficient. How about using the -10?
Who is here after engine explosion?
I am
Yeah but.......what kind of fuel burn ? What’s the range ?
At what climb rate, in an unpressurized plane, does the bends become an issue?
There's a big difference between the weight of a given column of air and a given column of water.
A square inch column of air at sea level only weighs approximately 15#'s.
I did a little research and apparently in water an atmosphere equivalent of water weight is 30 feet.
So climbing rapidly to 18,000 might be a problem if you can't clear your ears but going up and down rapidly from that altitude isn't an issue as far as gases in your blood stream because the pressure difference isn't really that significant.
Remember 18,000 feet would only be a partial atmosphere in air.
So climbing and descending rapidly from 18,000 feet would probably be like diving and surfacing 10 feet, probably less.
It isn't really an issue at 18000 feet. However, dropping from 25000 to ground can give you the bends at least in skydiving (Halo) jumps. Hence why we use oxygen tanks.
If I remember correctly, Mike also has oxygen onboard his plane Turbulence as well as Draco.
Ask Joe Kittinger
Free-falling and descending into higher pressures does not cause the bends. Bends are caused by nitrogen escaping from body tissues and into the blood too quickly, as in reduced external pressures (ascending in altitude). You breath oxygen prior to the jump because you need to purge the nitrogen from your body prior to depressurizing and the lack of oxygen in the air would cause rapid hypoxia.
@@Tuxedomakdarien increasing pressure - high altitude to low - won't give you the bends. That occurs when nitrogen in the blood stream forms bubbles as a result of a rapid drop in pressure. Oxygen is required at high altitude to keep you conscious, not to prevent the bends.
Nothing like horsepower!!!
Negative ghost rider the pattern is full!
love it I worked on your neighbors plane,,,
Mr Patey seems mistaken, I think he was piloting a Saturn 5
the A6M Zero had 800 HP, max speed 450kph. this is close to 700! that's efficient.
Aldion Sylkaj yeah but the legacy weighs half as much as the zero, and the aerodynamics of the airframe is like comparing a Jeep to a Ferrari formula one car.
It couldn't be this fast if it had to carry armor and weapons.
A6 had almost no armour
Wrong. 450 knots is 517 mph
The fastest Zero the model 21 was 940 hp and red lined at 287 knots.m VNE.
Mike Patey would be the coolest guy in the world if he could grow a full beard.
fuel tanks capacity?
Can someone say. OG.
i got a 2020 title for this video "5 reasons ATC hate this guy" 😋
It is 60 kts faster than a P51D Mustang.
so he put a turbine in a Lancaire..? he didn't build the sr 71
What's the max indicated it will do? I assume it's 375KTAS.
how do u get permission to modify a standard plane and then get it certified... is it now in the experimental class?
Lancair has always been experimental. Smoking hot machine!!
@@brentellender8651 until they sold out to Cessna......
Does the pop-up clearance have a ceiling before establishing contact with ATC?
18,000 is mandatory IFR altitude.
If you listen again he mentions he has to level out at 17,500 while he waits to pick up his IFR. That's because 18,000 is mandatory IFR.
Of course since he is heading eastbound and still VFR, 17500 is the highest altitude for VFR flight. If he was heading westbound the highest he could go VFR would be 16500
Fuel flow???
Like the Mississippi.
👍 👍 👍
because screw climb restrictions....lol
What prop rpm for that kind of speed???
I guess it’d be likely around 1700 ..😲
MrZeddy100 prop speed probably doesn’t ever change but for a few hundred rpm.
I wonder what the max altitude is
Turbines don't really like to go super high. This one might though.
I believe the pt6 is only rated to fl280. Could likely go higher.
TBM 850 can cruise at FL310 with a PT6. Check out Stevo1kinevo, hes up there all the time just chillin.
Turbines love it up high, much more efficent at higher altitudes. depends on the plane, if pressurized, or if he has an oxygen system installed. The higher they go, the better they run
Brian McGee -- turbines, yes. Propellers, not so much. Around the area of 40,000 feet is about the highest a typical turbo-prop will go. Purpose built high altitude propeller test planes have reached 80,000 feet, but that's like the Grob Strato with 20 foot propellers.
I'm guessing it effectively tops out in the mid 30s. He said he was going IFR in class A, so he certainly has oxygen.
so he put a turbine into a lanceair.. does that make him kelly johnson?
Now he's out to build an even faster one! ruclips.net/video/3QY_4sT6O9U/видео.html
Pornographic!
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