This Is NOT Your Grandpa's Airplane - Lancair LX7-20. Oshkosh 2019
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
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At Oshkosh 2019, DAY 4. And we are checking out the LX7-20.
Lancair’s have been around for ever in the general aviation world. They build fast, I mean really fast single engine piston airplanes. In today’s world of aviation, there’s a company in Oregon, RDD taking these ready built lancair 4 seater airplanes and putting some incredible mods on them. The result is what you see in the video; A Lancair LX7-20 Turboprop Aircraft.
The LX-7 model is built off of a ready made Lancair IV-P, an experimental 4 place airplane. RDD collects the plane from the customer, dissembles it, adds new beefed up parts to increase performance and safety. Then they give it back to the customer. Some of the new addition includes a parachute system, new firewall, new wings and the list goes on.
As a customer, you also get your options in engine choices. A standard LX-7 will come with a piston 350 HP continental engine capable of cruising 250 knots and take you as far as 2400 nautical miles. Opt for a turboprop engine in the LX7-20 though, and you’re in a different class of business. The turbine LX7-20 will cruise 280 knots true and take you as far as 1400 nautical miles with full tanks.
The price? a cool million give or take. The LX-7 cost about $850,000, and the LX7-20 cost about $1 million.
To find out more about the LX7 aircraft, visit www.lx7aircraft...
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Speed , range, capacity, high end navigation, it’s got it all.
You sure as hell pay for it tho.
...680shp in a 4P. What could go wrong? With the 4P already having no costly accidents, I'm sure my insurance underwriter thinks these are even lower risk.
Honestly, with the specs, I expected it to be $1.6 million. My goal is to one day own a used Piper M600 and get it for around $750K, although this plane is amazing. The only thing I like better about the Piper M600 is that 1. it's easier to get into and 2. the cabin class comfort. But this plane is amazing.
We need to be moving toward less expensive aircraft with these options
Mr. Richards, There now many new options available for one quarter or less of this airplanes price. Many very nice older airplanes at less than a tenth of the price of the Lanceair LX.
Very unfortunate that working class people can not have one of these planes. Banks are very far and few for financing one of these airplanes, it is considered as recreational aircraft, not a nessecity. Wish that it was affordable.
@@tribulationprepper787 Older planes with that kind of performance are insanely expensive to maintain. Nobody seems willing to talk about this. Yes, you can buy an older plane for less but it will also break nearly every time you fly it. Look at the Cessna 310. You can buy those planes under $50k but they cost $30k per year to maintain. I fly a new "expensive" plane that never breaks down and sips fuel. With planes you pick your poison. Buy low maintain high or buy high and maintain low.
@@kevinbutler9786 Kev... I am just trying to justify (for someone else) spending a mil on a cramped, four place airplane. I thought a half mil for a Skyhawk was nuts enough. So much for the American economy and the value of our declining fiat dollar. I would prefer to buy newer, slower, higher MPG, less costly maintenance and "experimental" if need be.
@@tribulationprepper787 I agree that a mil+ for a small 4 seater is crazy. I like that people are doing this though. This is where innovation is born. They will sell maybe a handful of these but maybe the building of this plane breeds some new tech that advances something else, maybe that capital goes into something more mainstream, who knows. Either way, buying old worn out planes from the 60's-70's is just not a good idea.
All engine! Love it! How a plane should be!👍
Whew, that is an awesome plane. Just had my first lesson yesterday and wanted to say although Ive been planning it for years watching your videos made me take the leap. Keep up the good work Mike love the videos aswell as the information and commentary.
Still flying? Keep it up!
@@infotechsailor Still wanting too lol, I managed to get 5 hours under my belt before I ran out of cash. Saving now should be back at it in a few months.
When I’m older I wanna be like my great grandfather who I never was able to meet. He was in the air force for a few years and he built a plane in his garage. He had such a passion for aviation and I want my first plane to be a Cessna 172 and I want to make him proud even though he doesn’t even know who I am.
The Lancair IV-P costs about $200,000 to $500,000, depending on options, time on the engine, etc. I "flew" a virtual IV-P around the world in Flight Simulator and it's truly badass. That was an old model with only 2 seats but had nearly the same performance as the LX7-20. It would cruise at about 280 knots at 23,000 feet and fly 1500 miles on a tank of fuel. It climbed and descended with amazing speed but was very agile, requiring a light touch on the controls.
Naturally I'd love to have the real thing but there's no way I could possibly afford it.
2400 nautical miles wow!!!
3:11 Is that moisture inside the nav light? if it is that can't be good.
That's what I saw aswell, I'm like maybe it was just an illusion because that can cause some serious electrical issues.
@@bc4458 At 3:00 you can clearly see that it is not an illusion. There is a huge amount of water inside of it.
@@fbnx4219 Oh no I'm aware, like I said at first glance I wasn't sure but I went back and confirmed there's definitely moisture.
@@bc4458 Later in the video you can also see that the other side has some condensation in it as well. So I would guess that this is a systemic problem rather than some local defect.
@@fbnx4219 Good spot, seems like a redesign of the seals is needed before it goes into hands of the customers. I'm curious now if this an issue of just rushing to get it ready in time for the show and didnt finish properly or if this is considered their market ready plane.
I fly a pc 12. And rarely carry more than 4. This looks like a great alternative.
Wish I had $1000000 laying around,, that is a very nice airplane
How about a DC3 instead ? :-D ☻
Wish wish wish, that’s why you don’t have it. The guys who know how don’t wish, they go make it happen.
@@tropicthndr Great advice or was that just some power of positive thinking seminar Bull Shit? Everyone can't just "go make it happen". (unless they are hawking tickets at a useless power of positive thinking seminar)
There always has to be some troll trying to change airplane talk into a personal slam and this time... you have made it happen. Thanks
If I had an extra mil, I believe I would invest in a lot of gold and silver but save out some for a nice, dependable airplane.
@@dibaldgyfm9933 Won't fit in my T hanger!
Great alternative to this plane is the lancair es-p. Safe to fly. Fast. Not to expensive.
If money is no issue, than this is perfect.
That is an absolutely beautyful job.
It's the original plane. Just has a new wing, new vertical stab, new horizontal stab, new engine........same axe, just a new handle and head.
3:00 Wingtip fuel water separator ?
I wish plans like this was considerably cheaper than a house
These planes are considerably cheaper than their owner's houses I'm sure. Wish granted!
I’m a huge glasair 3 fan & this is like the big boy version lol love it
Like a new lancair evolution
I'll be calling these guys the day I win the lottery.
When you consider the newest Mooney Acclaim Ultra is more than $800K this is far better.
Excellent Body on that sports bird
Really nice plane but didn't like how the lights at the wingtips had condensation inside them. That means they're not sealed well and they will turn yellow and ugly really quick.
I LOOKED AGAIN AND that really is condensation. I am very surprised! I also noticed that the seal around that light is just liquid rubber from a tube, poorly applied. For a million, I would expect the company would have designed an appropriately fitted, real rubber gasket. I hope they didn't Mickey Mouse this airplane together where it counts.
Yup, slow-mo that part and it looks like a bodge.
@@garthly I had to look up "bodge". Great word to succinctly describe the appearance of that nav light.
Crazy for a plane of that price
@@deborahchesser7375 Totally unacceptable.
3:00 you might want to work on that water intrusion problem in the wingtip
Excellent job - WELL DONE...
2:57 Does it come with the condensation in the wingtip or is that extra?
0:55 good luck turning that fuel switch in flight lol
It's a great piece of engineering (except for the water ingress in the tip lights)
My only problem with this class of aircraft in no matter how you extend the range it can only go as far as the weakest bladder on board. This class of aircraft simply is not comfortable over about 2 hours 30 mins.
The turbine would make this a very expensive aircraft, you'd nearly be better off buying a well maintained reasonable old light bizjet!
Wow what a beautiful plane
reminds me of the P51 mustang!
fidel catsro why, it’s more like a pilatus
Brrrrrr that thing sends chills......lol
I've been following the LX7 progress for a long time now. One of my dream planes. It sounds like you have to supply the base plane though? Find you one and buy it and turn it over to them?
Nope they sell the whole plane by itself you just buy the lx7 not the base plane
@@kegankirkpatrick2688 What happens when they run out of Lancair IVPs? :)
Brian Parkman, yes I’ve the same question?
when I figure out how to put a one piece wing and tail on my B13, then change the dashboard tachometer to an all-out Garmin instruments dash, switch that Nissan SE-R for a Rotax 915 iS then I be king of the sky...LOL
They do some great work on the IV P
That plane extremely looks like Mike Pateys turbulence.
Beautiful plane
Have always liked Lancair aircraft btw.
Cool plane
Wing tip light full of water. What happened there?
Came here for this answer.
3:11 6:21 good eye
Ya, at first glance i thought it was water, but it may have just been an odd frosting to diffuse the light.
Just watched it again, difinately water.
The whole cut out for that housing looks very rough to me. For that kind of money stuff like that would drive me nuts.
just need some superglue on those lights.
I noticed some condensation was building up inside the wing tip lens (RH) in this video.
Awesome, but the units sold will ultimately tell the tale. Go Well.
It's certainly a nice plane. Looks great and flies fast. However it's narrow and you still have to climb up a wing. For that money I'd buy a used Piper Meridian or M500. The biggest draw back for me living in WI is no FIKI (flight into known ice) option.
LOVE the seats but I'd like a color reverse ( Black with Brown inserts )...... just my take on it........... now for the $$$$$ . Hmmmmm.
My cousin owns one, the best single engine 4 seat plane in the world.
Pretty Nice instruments
Beautiful
Well...when I win the lotto I'll be right on your doorstep for a 20A, but I think that plane would also be really nice sporting an MT propeller.
Ya, tell us all about the plush seat covers. (Irony)
A mill. Damn. And thats after you buy the plane!!! So. 1.5 mil all together or so. Hmm id rather get into a nice used pc12. Bigger and same range 1500nm. Cabin class. Or. For about 250k a nice clean cessna 340. 2 engines. 250 mph cruse. 25k feet cabin class. 1500 nm range. And seats 5 pax. Plus pilot.
comparing used to new aircraft doesnt make sense.
@@Dudeisthere How so? Sometimes used aircraft are a better alternative to new aircraft.
@@MaxPower888 Because its apples with oranges. A Cessna 340 is a 40 year old airplane thats slower and will cost alot in maintenance. A PC 12 for 1.5 mil is going to have thousands of hours on it, much higher maintenance, fuel, hangar cost and landing fees. The same goes for the MU2.
This Lancair is a brand new 0 hour airplane with the latest tech, clearly designed for the turbine rated private pilot who wants to get from A to B fast with the reliability of a turbine. If youre in that market theres no point in looking at 6 seat airplanes. Considering you can price a brand new SR22T up to 1 mil i wouldnt say this is such a bad value.
You knew that when you heard the word "turbine". Fast and low maintenance, but serious upfront costs.
You cannot buy APC 12 for 1.5 million. More like 3.5.
the landing gear links a bit flimsy but incredible aircraft!
The landing gear is adequate and there is no reason to carry on extra weight.
so they replace everything and then put it back together again? so what of the old aircraft is left? :)
Awesomeness 😍!
Baddest single seater going or one of them
Ah, shit. What should I choose now: this or the Evolution turboprop?
Aleksandr Nestrato, I think the LX7 cost cheaper and fly further!
Evolution is long discontinued
@@boeing-lt4el
Kinda yes and no.
They are Evolution Aircraft now. Their web page is active and says "Copyright © 2019 Evolution Aircraft | All Rights Reserved" - 2019, it's good.
But their Facebook page is frozen in year 2017. Folks answer nothing - neither phone nor email.
@@aleksandrnestrato mostly Yes
Whoa - sign me up!
Lx7-28 (680 shp version)..anyone know
the price premium?
I'd rather a used TBM 700 or 850 likely for less than this... Used TBM can be had for less than $1M.
You're comparing an essentially NEW airplane with a used TBM. Kind of apples and oranges. The people that can realistically think "Should I get this conversion or a used TBM?" don't have to worry too much about the price.
@@jarodmorris611 No kidding, and NO not apples and oranges... I'm a huge fan of experimental aircraft. I'm a lifetime EAA member. I think a TBM 700 for $1M is better value than used but rebuilt new $1.9M Lancair.
The Lancair is not cabin class. The TBM is cabin class and can be used for commercial use or charters.
Expermental is great. My RV-7 can get me coast to coast in 13 hours (no wind) on about 110 gal of 100LL. However that is not my normal trip, which typically is 200 to 1200 miles one way. I'll fly commercial to go coastal or international. Granted my RV-7 is only 2 people packing light.
Its complex buying a turboprop or jet, but bottom line what are your needs, what is the mission and budget. Operating cost of any turboprop starts at $600 hr for owner flown. Jets are double. The range of hourly cost is wide. The experimental Turboprop is likely going to he cheaper to operate but may not hold resale value as well?
Wouldn't it be cheaper to build from scratch insted of dimantling it, fitting a new wing etc.?
How much Weight can the Lx7 Carry with 180 gallons of fuel with a 350 hp engine?
So much for the sling...
Sorry, but with the price of the plane included, you could have bought a new piper M350, or a slightly used M500.. no modification required. "Yea, but its cool!" .. /rolls eyes.
Do the math on any of the Piper cabin singles- their payload/range is pathetic. This thing you can fill with fuel, pax and bags and go a long way very fast.
Gostaria de ter mais informações sobre está aeronave. Aguardo👍
Does it also come with a bedroom and en suite?
Thanks to Mike Patey's homework.
Very cool
Lancair already offers a turbo prop don't they? Why not just buy one of those?
Azycray I also wondering Why. Lancair iv-propjet has better performance. 750 shp Walter engine. Lx-20a has a 550 shp engine.
Can it be modified to carry additional tank under-fuselage to extend distance additional 90gallons? approximately 720lbs in fuel plus 20lbs weight of tank. can the engine handle the weight to thrust ratio. ? if you can add another 800miles to the distance then the price is justifiable.
Amazing
Cant believe the price. Sling is a way better deal
the best plane..
I want one!
That’s a lot of money, eek!
It’s a pretty sleek plane But I think I would rather go with like a DA42 or a used DA62, I know they are twins and this is a single engine, so it’s not the most fair comparison, but for that price range( well maybe not the same price range but both all are pretty damn expensive)
I know what I would rather have
A million bucks and it comes with water in the wing tips. That's shameful they'd even display it with that condensation in at the tips. Kinda makes ya wonder about the rest of the innards if they can't make something as simple as a properly sealed running light.
I'm sure they will fix it. The seal probably just failed.
Fuel burn..??
I really wanted to see this beautiful plane fly. What a disappointment was the talking head.
Here some inside outside of the plane these guys pretty much copied already flying in 2016..
ruclips.net/video/CqEfHXsRTbA/видео.html
The Pipistrel Sinus won't go as far or as fast BUT... this fully aerobatic, power glider is much more fun to fly and it will get you there on 3.5 Gph for a fully equipped $125 thou.
A normal lancair 320 is decently fast at 450km/h as well. We need cost effective planes in that speed range and the key is sleek body, reclined tandem is the way to go for 2 seats. The Sharp Nemesis did nearly 500km/h with 100HP. At ground level. So don't be fooled by LSA's garbage 200km/h.
Dude...the Nemisis does NOT use a 100hp motor.
@@cluelessbeekeeping1322 dude, there are two generations. The second is called NXT. The first one was 100 ponies. Google is your friend.
Awesome
I would just get a lansair 3 for 1/3 the price
Im sure Mike Patey will be doing the same with his new race plane.
Also he will do such a conversion in 6 hours rather than 12 weeks.
how much is the price?
Badass!
Do they buy brand new Lancairs to only use the mid fuselage? And do they use the engine?
No a client brings their already built plane and have new parts and functions added to it. You can upgrade to a turboprop engine if you wish.
@@mojogrip Ok, a trade-in type deal.
So I can fly commercial first class for the rest of my life for about half of this turboprop's price. 😄
You really don't understand at all. Try skipping the security lines, flying when you want, not having to drive 5 hours after you land to get where you want to be. If you think commercial first class is the bomb then have at it. For some it's not about the money, it's about being able to go when and where you want. Enjoy that first class food. We all have our priorities.
Are you really comparing this to commercial flying? You must not be a pilot.
@@Steve-i1w4i you can be a pilot without owning a plane.
That wing light full of water doesn’t looks very presentable. 🤔
After watching a ton of videos I feel I'm lost and I really need an informed opinion ... now I want to buy a 4 seater single prop that is fast and efficient ... Any suggestions ?
MCR4S evolution, 140 hp, 4 seater, 1500 Nm, 25L/h (8 gal/h). Best in its class.
3:00 there's a lot of condensation in that light, does it evaporate quickly in flight? Your regular Toyota Corolla wouldn't pass any technical test in Germany with that
Shameful, isn't it! And for a million dollars!
The plane is worth the money compairing the tec specs and the flying Performance. Compare the piston to the pricing of a cirrus 22!? And the turbine version is a high Performance plane. So figure out where you can buy almost in new condition a plane like this to this amount of money. The value is worth the money compairing the quality and safety..
About 16 to 17mpg at economy.
Please sendme theas information in spanish
awesome plane! But for a million I can get an old Starfighter F104, with spare engine and a HEAP of spares, a bit more fun I'd say....
Man...I like the way you think!
Yeah , and your maintenance cost will be about a million dollars a year! I know because my friend mark sherman owns an F104
Was that an error when he said the piston would do 260 knots?
No, it's accurate. They is fast!
What does the company, Lancair, think about this? Lawsuits get tossed around?
yes good
maybe I missed it, but does this plane have any anti-icing capabilities? If you going to be traveling the distances and the speeds that are projected you would think that would be a requirement.
I believe it does.
Yes, electric Deice is built into the leading edge of wings, horizontal and prop.
The presenter should take off his sunglasses :)
If you're a pilot you keep thr glasses on during sunlight. It keeps your vision and it helps for night vision adjustment, your eyes will adapt quicker.
Nice! How do you make something better? Give it to someone else.
The time you buy the Lancair, then you guys modify it...you can put down some more money and get a real hot rod...a TBM that has a 50 knot higher cruise speed at FL-310
No, you can't.
@@Steve-i1w4i Really...lol...you ever been in a TBM?
To bad they have to start with a lancair 4 considering how little of the original airframe they keep.