FBI Informant Given a Pass on Safety? | 2018 Schoharie Limousine Disaster Case Analysis

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  • Опубликовано: 4 окт 2022
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Комментарии • 449

  • @amiahvaldez7873
    @amiahvaldez7873 Год назад +28

    My friends brother was one of the victims who was hit in the parking lot by the limo. Thanks for keeping their memory alive all these years later.

  • @Coachgerri
    @Coachgerri Год назад +117

    I live in the vicinity of this tragedy. That was a whole group of young people who left small children behind. Just horrendous.

    • @leannemione340
      @leannemione340 Год назад +12

      I am so sorry for everyone's loss. ☮️💜

    • @amandagillis4043
      @amandagillis4043 7 месяцев назад +2

      I went to school and knew a few of the beautiful souls that lost their life in this tragedy

  • @BrendaBaBoom
    @BrendaBaBoom Год назад +14

    How horrific that the brake shop did not fix the brakes! 😖

  • @victorhugoraga4896
    @victorhugoraga4896 2 года назад +121

    Is it me or Dr G is flexing his new truck lol 😂💪🏻

    • @Savantrez
      @Savantrez Год назад +28

      Humble brag if I ever saw one. Good for him. Congrats he earned it

    • @DreamingInTechnicolor
      @DreamingInTechnicolor Год назад +17

      He’s totally like ‘I’ve got a new whip!’ lol.

    • @theurbanloner8879
      @theurbanloner8879 Год назад +17

      Lol I caught that too but it was done tastefully.

    • @lisabenson
      @lisabenson Год назад +12

      Dr. Grande has good taste in rides!

    • @SueP-D
      @SueP-D Год назад +11

      Not much better than a badass new truck💪🏽

  • @donnieweed2547
    @donnieweed2547 Год назад +20

    I want to know what happened to the mechanic that charged for brake system work but never performed it. He is just as responsible for this situation.

  • @ZombieMiezz
    @ZombieMiezz Год назад +9

    The FBI must have low expectations about their informants. Every story with one of them is the pure disaster.

    • @eadweard.
      @eadweard. Год назад +1

      Tbf you wouldn't tend to hear about the successes.

  • @Bubblebeets
    @Bubblebeets Год назад +27

    Sounds like the passengers were really uneasy, if only they would have gotten out while he was pulled over but likely didn’t want to ruin her birthday. Such tragedy for the poor families.

  • @ketocutie2981
    @ketocutie2981 Год назад +5

    I like how Dr Grande threw in the fact that the 2015 Highlander is a second generation Highlander.

  • @thelocalmaladroit8873
    @thelocalmaladroit8873 Год назад +60

    Such an avoidable tragedy on so many levels!
    Btw- nice truck Doc!

    • @205ken4
      @205ken4 Год назад +3

      Absolutely!
      I didn’t picture Dr Grande having a sweet full size truck

  • @rejaneoliveira5019
    @rejaneoliveira5019 Год назад +31

    The outcome of this tragedy is infuriating. My heart goes out to the families of the victims.
    Excellent analysis as usual! Thank you, Dr. Grande.❤

  • @tommygoode9644
    @tommygoode9644 Год назад +28

    I had a CDL and worked for Werner Enterprises for about a year. If they could smell the brakes then the driver should have stopped right away. If the brakes get hot enough they will not work at all. I'm guessing that the brakes were being used excessively on a vehicle that was far over it's weight threshold. Chances are that the standard excursion brakes were still on the vehicle. If you add that much more weight to a vehicle you need to add bigger rotors and bigger calipers to adjust for the weight increase. It's possible that the brakes locked up in a clamp down state if the master cylinder was faulty. That would create a smell for sure. But I think that the brakes were just too small for all the weight that they were trying to stop. If the truck had been driven like that for several years or even months the brakes were definitely worn out. That would have led to them failing for sure. I'm not sure why someone with a CDL wouldn't know how brake systems work. It's pretty simple. Plus the smell would be a pretty good indicator that something was wrong. The owner of the vehicle should have fitted the right brakes on a vehicle that big carrying that many people. His disregard for it being judged out of service was criminal and results were deadly. He should have gotten 1 year in prison for every death that happened in that crash. 20 years sounds about right for this level of negligence. I hope that the civil cases leave him broke or chase him out of the country. Who needs professional paintball players anyway?

  • @spymonkey39
    @spymonkey39 Год назад +18

    Oh wow. A family friend died in this crash. Thank you for covering this.

  • @friskykitten64
    @friskykitten64 Год назад +88

    What a sad story. I feel so sorry for the families affected by this completely unnecessary and avoidable tragedy. 💜💐🌈✌️

  • @keithbrunson7190
    @keithbrunson7190 Год назад +30

    This was an excellent explanation of exactly what happened. The graphics that you are now using in your post production or increasing the understandability and your production value has dramatically improved. This is excellent use of this medium and you deserve to be recognized for it.

  • @lovelylioness7827
    @lovelylioness7827 Год назад +11

    Thank you, Dr Grande. I was a home care nurse in that area for many years have driven on that road multiple times, it is treacherous. I have visited the memorial next to the beautiful country store Apple Barrel, it is very sad and heartbreaking to be standing on the very site where so many beautiful young lives were taken. 😢

  • @BeckyInCa
    @BeckyInCa 2 года назад +146

    It's so frustrating that he was able to avoid prison time!

    • @stevenwest000
      @stevenwest000 Год назад +2

      How the hell does the person that usually cause these fatalities end up surviving. I appreciate he probably had his seatbelt on but even so….

    • @Gabster1990
      @Gabster1990 Год назад +10

      The driver was killed but the owner of the business was charged since he failed to maintain the vehicle.

    • @stevenwest000
      @stevenwest000 Год назад +5

      @@Gabster1990 ah sorry misheard

    • @scottricci5063
      @scottricci5063 Год назад

      When first we practice to deceive...

    • @IcanSeeU0_0
      @IcanSeeU0_0 Год назад +5

      How did u watch before everyone

  • @SvetlanaVladimirova8590
    @SvetlanaVladimirova8590 Год назад +16

    Another suberb analysis by Dr. Grande. I still am bingewatching the Doctor's entire "complete works" (I was pretty late to the show). My husband jokes that Dr. Grande will soon have me as the subject of one of his videos, to be titled "Russian Wife struck with Grande Compulsion Sydrome Forgets to do the Washing-Up." Well, I guess it sounds funnier in Russian. With best wishes and hopes for peace from Moscow.

  • @bernadette573
    @bernadette573 Год назад +31

    Happened not too far from me, and a treacherous stretch of road. Driver would have built up speed without pressing gas pedal.
    The judge has refused the plea deal and this will still go to trial. State Supreme Court Justice Peter Lynch said the arrangement was fundamentally flawed. He gave limo company operator Nauman Hussain a choice between withdrawing his guilty plea and accepting a 15- to 48-month prison sentence, the maximum possible term for his role in the 2018 crash. That is from a local paper, The Daily Gazette.

    • @Vixter1945
      @Vixter1945 Год назад +9

      What a piddly little sentence 😔😔

    • @tankthearc9875
      @tankthearc9875 Год назад +7

      shouldnt the garage that lied about servicing the brakes be the ones charged here? as far as the owner knew the work was done.

    • @Dwightstjohn-fo8ki
      @Dwightstjohn-fo8ki Год назад +5

      @@tankthearc9875 absolutely. I'd LOVE to find out what garage he sent the work to. Owned by "notanother" "Hussain"??

    • @paulajohnson139
      @paulajohnson139 Год назад +2

      Good to know. Thx

    • @editman145
      @editman145 10 месяцев назад

      @@Dwightstjohn-fo8ki Clash of cultures, "the disciplined law abiding" against "non emphatic selfish behavioral". I do not understand how it is possible that previous he was sentences to community service. An extension of having a pass on safety as a former FBI informant? Letting such people lose in American society regardless their persona of having non compliant behavior and values. Still 15 years is nothing compared to the lose of 20 souls. To my opinion it is the most severe form of "giving a s**t and don't care about others in a manner that makes it murder. He know the risks, but still chose to ignore it, that makes it murder in my book.

  • @karenpayne1011
    @karenpayne1011 Год назад +46

    Such a tragic event which happened because of negligence and greed with very little accountability.
    Terrific analysis. Thanks for sharing this. Appreciate you.

  • @SkepticalAaron
    @SkepticalAaron Год назад +10

    You got something wrong. He pled guilty and that sentence was the agreeded upon deal, but at the sentencing the judge rejected the plea as basically a ridiculous miscarriage of justice so the guilty plea was withdrawn and there is a trial set for next May.

    • @bestnameeverf
      @bestnameeverf 11 месяцев назад +1

      Happy to report he got sentenced to 15 years max 5 years minimum.

  • @Cyber_Kati_6744
    @Cyber_Kati_6744 Год назад +55

    I had not heard of this awful tragedy… My heart sincerely goes out to all of the victims and to all of their families..
    I am a retired commercial truck driver, heavy equipment hauler, & instructor… Omgosh this is absolutely unfathomable..
    I 100% agree with your take on the necessities to regard CDL license holders just as strict as DOT laws are for truck drivers… CDL license holders who drive stretch limousines, bobtails, even some uhaul self moving trucks, should all be geared towards the same strictness as truck drivers…
    Im in a particular state where DOT laws are one of the most strictest… Our weigh stations will place the rig out of service and the driver cannot move, or they will be arrested…
    I agree this is a multi-failure of the system.. It is not just one bad failure, but a multitude of critical failures that resulted in such a horrific and devastating loss of these people.. 💔
    What can be said about this owner being a free man, and having no conscience as to the deaths he clearly caused is deplorable…
    This was really so hard to hear, but Tysvm Dr. Grande for getting this story out… I would sincerely hope that new laws would be put in place to prevent such a heart wrenching event to ever take place again… 🕊🤍🕊

    • @troy3456789
      @troy3456789 Год назад +6

      I view it as any number of fail-safes could have worked to save lives. The driver knew the vehicle wasn't safe too.. The ABS slight stayed on? That is not normal, and any driver with that many souls onboard would refuse to drive it; instead it seems like he drove it like he stole it.

    • @researchersusie169
      @researchersusie169 Год назад +8

      Thank you for commenting on this with your expertise and knowledge.

    • @Cyber_Kati_6744
      @Cyber_Kati_6744 Год назад +5

      @@researchersusie169 You’re most welcome, thank you as well for the kind words.. 🤍🕊🤍

    • @windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823
      @windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 Год назад

      I understand it was allowed to move with stock brakes. A Vice-grip was installed to hold a brake line component. By a supposed licensed mechanic. No less.

  • @rmkilc
    @rmkilc Год назад +3

    If you read the NTSB report, they did extensive testing on an exemplar Excursion. They loaded it with the same weight and did partial system failures like front brake failure, rear brake failure, ABS failure, and power assist failure. In every scenario it was able to stop in well under twice the distance of an unloaded Excursion with the same failure.
    They also did brake dynamometer testing simulating the hill and various failures. Under all simulated conditions, the vehicle was able to stop at the bottom of the downgrade.
    This was not a "more people than the vehicle was designed for" issue. It was simply in disrepair. Crimped brake lines, leaking brake lines, seized caliper pistons, etc.

  • @haltersweb
    @haltersweb Год назад +3

    My brother's good friend and his wife were two of the victims of this terrible accident. They left behind a young son (their first and only child) who will never remember them. I have always wondered what really happened because there was such speculation, including murder-suicide, drug causes, assassination, nefarious tampering of the vehicle, etc. Thank you for clearing all of this up. Between the brakes failing and the weight of the vehicle, what happened perfectly makes sense. It came down to the first law of motion: a body in motion at a constant velocity will remain in motion in a straight line unless acted upon by an outside force.

  • @phren716
    @phren716 Год назад +13

    I don't recall hearing about this at the time, but the saddest part, in my mind, is the fact that there were so very many opportunities to prevent this from happening. It makes me sick to my stomach to think so many individuals could have done the right thing (actually do the brake-work, confiscate the driver's license, not use the unsafe vehicle, etc) and protected 20 lives. In my opinion, they are all guilty, all the way back to the first failure to act.

  • @GenosectKingRevived
    @GenosectKingRevived Год назад +10

    This happened near my neck of the woods.

  • @Blissfulnessence
    @Blissfulnessence Год назад +7

    On a side note, the businesses and finances sound a lot like money laundering.
    Anyone else get that impression?
    Thanks Dr. Grande, i remember when this tragedy happened but don't recall having heard the outcome for the guilty parties

  • @Buckeye2043
    @Buckeye2043 Год назад +5

    I know one of the siblings of someone that passed in this tragedy. He was a great brother. Always saw him shooting hoops with his younger brother.

  • @isatoro77
    @isatoro77 Год назад +3

    This is horrendous. I’m so sorry for the family left behind.

  • @susannadler9791
    @susannadler9791 Год назад +2

    The intersection where this vehicle was supposed to stop but couldn’t is ripe for this kind of accident. I’ve been to that restaurant at the scene many times. The road the limo was traveling on is sloped downward toward the intersection. If someone was coasting down the hill and expecting to brake at the stop sign, a brake failure would be devastating, as we saw. It’s disgusting that the father’s informant status has allowed this family to escape responsibility for so many things. The father is really the person operating things behind the scenes.

  • @anne-marieh6128
    @anne-marieh6128 Год назад +13

    Great analysis Dr. Grande! I’m amazed at the function of the criminal justice system!
    ! A negligent parent can go to prison for life end and yet in this instance the kid who owned the limousine company didn’t do any time. Great take away though of why the prosecution proceeded as they did though.

    • @SkepticalAaron
      @SkepticalAaron Год назад +3

      He got something wrong. The deal was rejected by the judge at the sentencing hearing for being outrageous, so there is a trial set for next May. There is no way he will get off without jail time now.

  • @vladimirputindreadlockrast812
    @vladimirputindreadlockrast812 Год назад +7

    Sounds like the throttle cable got stuck on full open. The driver tried to brake, was too freaked out to think of anything else he could do. Quickly shift into neutral. When the vehicle comes to a stop, make everybody get out and distance themselves before the engine blows up.

    • @MH-vr2lq
      @MH-vr2lq Год назад +2

      I learned about this on tv! The scenario scared the crap out of me, and since then I've also shared ot with EVERYONE. Always be prepared, even for uncommon situations.

    • @oldsalt8011
      @oldsalt8011 Год назад +2

      Down shift to help with the braking.

    • @vladimirputindreadlockrast812
      @vladimirputindreadlockrast812 Год назад +2

      @@oldsalt8011 Yep.

    • @windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823
      @windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 Год назад

      @@oldsalt8011 If you downshift, you'll regret it, trust me. It's not a standard, its automatic.

    • @thadeusbaggins9967
      @thadeusbaggins9967 Год назад +1

      I drive the route the limo took fairly frequently. It's a treacherous hill, as it steadily gets steeper and steeper over the course of about a mile from the intersection with Route 7. It's hard to explain, but the hazard is not apparent immediately. Even though I am familiar with the road, I worry about having difficulty braking in my work van if I am going just a bit too fast at the top. The driver of the limo did not know the road, clearly, and given the extreme weight of the vehicle and its inadequate brakes, it's not a surprise at all that he lost control. When I drive that road I routinely look for spots along that stretch where he could have potentially ditched the vehicle to try and stop it, but there really aren't many good options. The stop sign at the bottom of the hill comes quick, even at 45 mph.

  • @justnana13-klj40
    @justnana13-klj40 Год назад +10

    3 hours ago? 615 am where I am. Dr. Grande putting in the late nights!
    Thank you, as always.
    Edit - the Judge rejected the plea? Good on him!

    • @bamafader4543
      @bamafader4543 Год назад

      Videos can be scheduled to upload at a certain time. But Dr. Grande certainly does a lot for his channel, nonetheless.

  • @theSemiChrist
    @theSemiChrist Год назад +7

    This is why you put the vehicle in neutral when it's revving uncontrollably.

    • @eadweard.
      @eadweard. Год назад

      It's not a panacea. There's no guarantee it will go into neutral.

    • @thekurtcobainfoundation4200
      @thekurtcobainfoundation4200 Год назад +2

      Sean Wilson thanks for sharing that tidbit. I didn't know. Years ago when I lived in Ky. I was flying down the highway and I heard this knocking noise. So I pulled into a full service gas station. The mechanic there said it was my motor and do NOT drive the car have it towed. But I called my mechanic who recently just worked on my car and he told me that the "gas station" mechanic doesn't know what he's talking about it could NOT be the motor if it was he would of known when he worked on my car. He told me to drive back. I did. And where I lived? Thank God it was a small one light own because my breaks went out. I could not stop the car. And I freaked out. I threw the car in par by using my emergency parking break . And got a slam. I didn't know what else to do and I was so scared. Thank God for that little town where the speed limit was only 35. I can't imagine having to slam my car in park to get it to stop if I had be going 65mph. Thank you. I don't tend on this ever happening again but if it ever does I will remember this don't slam on the parking break put the car in neutral, You may have just saved someone's life with your comment. Not everyone knows to do this. Thank you so very much.

    • @theSemiChrist
      @theSemiChrist Год назад +2

      @@thekurtcobainfoundation4200 I'm glad if I even help one person with that comment. The engine will probably continue to rev, it won't be moving the transmission, but if it's still red lining the engine you'll want to move away from the vehicle, too.
      This is a good idea if the brakes fail too as you'll lose momentum. Throw the ebrake as you get closer to stopping if you need to or as soon as you can if you need to stop more immediately. It won't show you down as quick as you like but it'll be slower than just ramming into something at full speed.
      That had to be scary though. My friend's wheel flew off while he was driving and he was able to downshift to stop without sliding out of control because he was in a standard.

    • @thekurtcobainfoundation4200
      @thekurtcobainfoundation4200 Год назад +1

      @@theSemiChrist Thank you. I will tuck all this away just incase I need it someday. take care.

    • @windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823
      @windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 Год назад

      @@thekurtcobainfoundation4200 I suggest 2 words, "Show me."

  • @mikki3961
    @mikki3961 Год назад +5

    Thank you for this Doc. It was a horrific scene. It is still a very raw wound in the community. So much loss all due to greed.

  • @stuartgmk
    @stuartgmk Год назад +5

    Disgusting outcome . Twenty died incredibly sad RIP .

  • @Throatzillaaa
    @Throatzillaaa Год назад +33

    Dr. Grande, have you ever done a video on Jared Fogle, the subway guy? I don't believe you have and I would love to hear your opinion on the whoke thing. I remember when he was arrested for CP, I didn't really keep up with the case or know the details but I assumed he searched for CP on the dark web and had it stored on his computer. BUT 😧 I was so wrong. That case, which I already thought was incredibly messed up, is about 100x worse than I had imagined.

    • @pigtailsandteddybears
      @pigtailsandteddybears Год назад +10

      That would be a good one! He is one hell of a sicko. I was honestly quite surprised.

    • @Cinder_311
      @Cinder_311 Год назад +3

      he did..I think recently

    • @badxradxandy
      @badxradxandy Год назад +3

      Lots of videos about that guy

  • @erikamccarthy1457
    @erikamccarthy1457 Год назад +3

    10/6/22 License wasn’t suspended due to Clerical Error. Numerous violations Disaster waiting to happen. Month prior failed inspection a Boot should of been placed on it, until repairs done & new inspection to insure vehicle safe to use! Multiple people responsible for this Tragedy to have taken place! Many people Failed by not making sure vehicle Was safe for use!! My Heart 💔 goes out to Victims & Families🌹 imo much more at play here with FBI involved w/Owner.

  • @shaylajade9937
    @shaylajade9937 Год назад +2

    You were VERY correct, that the limo went OUT OF ITS WAY to get to the intersection, where the Apple Barrel store is located. However, I am disappointed that you failed to mention the fact that locals are FULLY AWARE of how deadly that intersection is... tractor trailers had actually been banned from taking that route for many years before the limo crash even took place. The combination of 1) the steepness of the hill, 2) the weight of the tractor trailer's cargo, and 3) the T-shapped intersection, requiring a stop... had been NOTORIOUS for the brake failure in perfectly healthy tractor trailers. This was a known fact, a VERY IMPORTANT fact which is worth mentioning.... because, the fact of the matter is.... this limo company took a vehicle that they knew 1) had an already KNOWN failed brake system, 2) had an excess amount of weight, 3) OUT OF THE WAY to this NOTORIOUSLY DEADLY intersection....
    The combination of these facts speaks VOLUMES about intent, in my eyes, that this crash was a PLANNED EVENT. These facts will no doubt come out in court.
    So yes, in your next video please don't leave this important fact out. You can look it up yourself, it's a FACT tractor trailers had been banned from that route for MANY YEARS leading up to this crash. And I am SURE that the driver was fully aware of this.
    Regardless of anything, I can guarantee you that the party DID NOT "change their destination" to the Apple Barrel store.... that would make 0 sense.

  • @kikihowe4799
    @kikihowe4799 Год назад +2

    No prison ….?????? Wow …someone knows people in high places ….UNBELIEVABLE

  • @michelleroxy21
    @michelleroxy21 Год назад +3

    had to do the math.. 17 people total in the group, 17 passengers in the vehicle died. the entire group of passengers in the vehicle died.

  • @9sheri9
    @9sheri9 2 года назад +10

    12:25 Very likely -- and reinforced further by the "punishment" he ultimately received from this case.
    Professional paintball player that drives an Infiniti SUV? Difficult for me not to make assumptions about his character here; however, I'll refrain. 😂
    Out of curiosity, I'm interested in knowing who the father is & what his ties were. Then again... Maybe I really *don't* want to know...

  • @BoomPow123
    @BoomPow123 7 месяцев назад +1

    I never heard about this tragic accident until today. I watched the family's story but was never clear of the details that caused the crash.
    You answered all my questions and more.
    Thanks,Dr G!

  • @Heather420
    @Heather420 Год назад +7

    Wild I'm originally from Amsterdam but live in Nevada now. I don't recall my family telling me about this! How sad, I feel awful for the families involved. Amsterdam is a small town, I imagine that hit them hard 🥺

  • @minnietrout814
    @minnietrout814 Год назад +5

    This informant fee crap plus preferential treatment really stirs my ire! Truthfully I have little respect remaining for the FBI anyway, PRIOR to this video.
    One family lost all four of their daughters, including the “birthday girl.” Justice was not served in this case at all!

  • @205ken4
    @205ken4 Год назад +3

    I love the rare occasion that Dr Grande does a video that includes something I’m very familiar with (I’ve owned dozens of Excursion limos) because I keep waiting for him to say some silly info he found online and he never does!
    It gives me confidence in him on topics he covers that I have no understanding of lol

  • @acebenedict9945
    @acebenedict9945 Год назад +3

    Can you imAgine walking out of a store and being hit by a flying Highlander …. Wow

  • @blessings2you435
    @blessings2you435 Год назад +2

    Thanks, Dr. Grande, for the transfixing commentary on our "out of service" licensing & judicial systems. Not to mention the entirely corrupt FBI (Hunter's laptop anyone?) & the victims it ensnares, perpetuates, enables & protects. 20 lives obliterated = "community service"? That in itself = a toll of incalculable, devastating dimensions.
    My heartfelt sympathy for all of the collateral victims of this horrendous crime. 💔⚖

  • @janice576
    @janice576 Год назад +17

    Dr Grande I always enjoy your videos as I learn so much. Thank you for all of your hard work. It's truly appreciated. Saying hello from New Jersey
    🇺🇲🌎🇺🇲

  • @anonymousstrangeness7348
    @anonymousstrangeness7348 Год назад +20

    A well-done analysis, a fascinating informative video as usual, Doctor Grande. Thank you so much ☺ 👍

  • @Contessa6363
    @Contessa6363 7 месяцев назад +1

    Wow I had not heard about this accident. When you include the back story and everything that led up to the event it is very shocking! 😮😮😮😢😢

  • @joea2r
    @joea2r Год назад +2

    What I have learned from this episode. There are two different sets of rules, one for average Joes and the other for special folks.

  • @grumpyoldlady_rants
    @grumpyoldlady_rants Год назад +3

    That man absolutely deserved prison time! I feel so sad for the families of the people who died.

    • @JoeStunner
      @JoeStunner Год назад

      Cars and guns are the doc's favourite boys' toys.

  • @skunkrat01
    @skunkrat01 Год назад +3

    Dr Grande is finally a RUclipsr. Flexing about his car 😁😁

  • @browniehendricks3726
    @browniehendricks3726 Год назад +6

    You have us quite a ride on this one. Thanks so much.

  • @maryronan8446
    @maryronan8446 7 месяцев назад +1

    The driver, drunk. The brakes, broken. The company had been previously reported but somehow remained in business?
    My prayers are with the children and grandparents now will raise their grandchildren.😭😭😭😭

  • @idacoetzee
    @idacoetzee Год назад +5

    Wow it’s outrageous that shady characters doing shady deals with shady businesses results in mass death and shady character does no time, it seems that crime does pay, so many crimes committed by the limo business owner long before a shady driver took care of business, bet that shady business owner is running another shady business doing shady deals leeching off the trust of consumers.

    • @jeanetteshawredden5643
      @jeanetteshawredden5643 Год назад

      In Texas there is a notorious used "grayhound" type transportation owner - buses in disrepair & taken out of service after wrecks where passengers died. Bus drivers under trained, licenses not in order, drivers who dont speak English ... same owner just buys other buses under a different company name, more wrecks, more people die. Somehow he gets away with it. (The buses are used for transporting large groups of people to gambling casinos).

  • @greghanson5696
    @greghanson5696 Год назад +2

    I'd like to bring up the possibility that if diesel powered the vehicles engine "ran away". High mileage poorly maintained diesels can start to consume their own engine oil and can be very difficult to control. They will run at a RPM well above the governed redline, screaming or howling. A witness stated the vehicle's engine was loud, almost sounding like a jet.

  • @dabberowl
    @dabberowl Год назад +2

    Dr. Grande are you a 'gearhead'? Over the last few years, I've noticed you have a decent amount of knowledge on many vehicles and manufactures

  • @billie6814
    @billie6814 Год назад +3

    Nice ute, Dr. Grande! That's what we call trucks in Australia. ❤️
    So very sad hearing the driver had been pressing on the breaks for his life so hard it deformed his shoe/ left a print on the bottom. Those poor friends.

  • @mikeleach4201
    @mikeleach4201 Год назад +3

    The brakes were burned out on a downhill and the limo gained speed.

  • @msully76
    @msully76 Год назад +1

    As a owner of a car service company 2 things stand out first how old the car was and the unbelievable amount of weight in the car it was a disaster in the making.

  • @Vixter1945
    @Vixter1945 Год назад +4

    What a tragic disgraceful situation 🙊😔. Fantastic analysis, the points made are spot on

  • @rush4hire
    @rush4hire Год назад +13

    It looked like he put an "out of order" sign, got the brakes done, then took the sign off. He was done with it. He didn't know he got ripped off on the brake job and no work was really done. Why wasn't the fake mechanic charged?

    • @HealingHappyAli
      @HealingHappyAli Год назад +1

      Likely Hussein and/or the families has to sue civilly separately because the car was out of service only in part due to brakes, I think a huge part, so the DA isn't sure of a conviction but the Secretary of State could still get a fraud charge and fine.

    • @windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823
      @windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 Год назад

      @You, I touch myself "brakes."

  • @gcham1209
    @gcham1209 Год назад +6

    I knew one of the victims of this tragedy

  • @evelynwaugh4053
    @evelynwaugh4053 Год назад +4

    Who manufactured this unsafe at any speed vehicle? Was the vehicle modified (lengthened) after production- if so by whom? Lots of product liability issues here. Very sad case.

    • @eadweard.
      @eadweard. Год назад

      This was covered in the video.

    • @evelynwaugh4053
      @evelynwaugh4053 Год назад

      @@eadweard. Possibly. I'm not going to listen to it again, though. All I heard was a description of the length, but not how this was achieved, or what company was responsible.

    • @windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823
      @windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 Год назад

      @@somethingelse4424 Drum brakes suck a bag of a**. Had them. They might not work in rain AT ALL. Thank god I was on a bike and still had a clutch. They either don't stop well, or they grab wrong/lock and slide out from under you.
      I've never had that on disc brakes.
      If price is no object, I'd have Bremos. They work ridiculously well on a Ferrari (track day), which is still at or over 4k pounds. They are very expensive, tho.
      This thing had a cap of towing 10k pounds, but that doesn't include pass weight. Should have had much heavier/larger brakes.

    • @windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823
      @windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 Год назад

      @@somethingelse4424 They couldn't find out who did that modification, btw.

  • @shaylajade9937
    @shaylajade9937 Год назад +2

    UPDATE: the judge who granted Hussain the plea deal retired. He was replaced by another (clearly MUCH BETTER judge, in my opinion). This new judge threw out Hussain's plea deal and is currently coming for him HARD in court!

  • @Gabster1990
    @Gabster1990 Год назад +3

    Damn, this is a mass casualty!

  • @ImGoingSupersonic
    @ImGoingSupersonic Год назад +2

    Dr. you just wanted to show off your '22 Toyota! 😅👍🏼

  • @AnnieAbundance
    @AnnieAbundance Год назад +2

    As usual, the analysis was spot on!!! Can you do the cape of Marie Noe, a Philadelphia woman who killed eight children??

  • @hilriekemp
    @hilriekemp Год назад +3

    5 years probation? That guy who was married to Dalia Dippolito served 2 years in jail and was on probation for 28 years for defrauding investigators and had to payback restitution. But this freaking guy got 5 years probation for negligently killing 20 people and he doesn't have to pay court ordered restitution smh. There's some serious flaws in the justice system for sure

  • @victorhugoraga4896
    @victorhugoraga4896 Год назад +7

    Please Dr grande bring back the “I’m not diagnosing anybody” orange t shirt from your merchandise 😢

  • @shaylajade9937
    @shaylajade9937 Год назад +1

    "The couple" did not arrange the stretch limo - Axyl did. It was a present for his wife, for her birthday. He originally booked a different vehicle, through a different company... Allegedly, that company called him to cancel last minute, recommending Prestige Limo, instead. Axyl then booked through Prestige, where he discovered there was more seating than originally planned.... this is the point that my friend, Amanda Halse, joined the party....

  • @thekurtcobainfoundation4200
    @thekurtcobainfoundation4200 Год назад

    Wow. Dr. Grande this is the best one yet!!!!

  • @mettlul
    @mettlul Год назад +2

    Congrats on the new truck, Dr. G!

  • @tb-dv1zc
    @tb-dv1zc Год назад +1

    What a messed up story. Great case for explaining why I am very uncomfortable with strangers driving a vehicle I am in. Lots of people are at fault here, but Hussein was the lynch pin.

  • @BC-PAC
    @BC-PAC Год назад +2

    I enjoy your videos, very much so! I love the humor and your professional evaluations on any given event

  • @tragicslip_2
    @tragicslip_2 Год назад +4

    More awesome visuals. 👌Great job 👏.

  • @pxxxbxxx1981
    @pxxxbxxx1981 Год назад +1

    Used to travel for work and observed that it isnt customary to wear seatbelts in taxis and shuttles, and sometimes limos. I started doing so after passing an upside down taxi on the way into NYC. Totally get what Dr. G was saying about the pedal to the floor driving method so common with NYC taxi drivers.

  • @Molkatoftime
    @Molkatoftime Год назад +1

    It’s so weird I was just thinking about this case and your video popped into my recommended. Thanks for the content

  • @emilyhollis4231
    @emilyhollis4231 Год назад +4

    I don't know how you made it through "the list of failures here" without losing it, Dr Grande. I wanted to punch a wall just listening. 🤬
    Much respect.

    • @kenthompson5723
      @kenthompson5723 10 месяцев назад

      Emily, I completely agree with you. This case could almost be described as murder. That the owner did not or has not served any jail time is infuriating. Is he being protected by the government? The company should have been shut down, the owner and his son sentenced to at least twenty years in prison, and the brake "mechanic" charged with manslaughter. This death car incident was a disaster in more ways than one.

  • @kstadives3
    @kstadives3 7 месяцев назад

    I find this case fascinating. Thanks for covering it!

  • @cameronw.2775
    @cameronw.2775 Год назад +1

    Love you Dr. Grande. Such a gem!

  • @milenacivonidalim
    @milenacivonidalim Год назад +7

    What a better way to start my 25th birthday morning than to watch Dr. Grande's video about a girl who arranged for a limousine for her bday and then the limo caused a disaster.. 🤩 I didn't arrange for an out of service limo so I guess I'm the only failure that's going to happen today 🥲🍻
    Nice truck Doc! ❤

  • @leannemione340
    @leannemione340 Год назад +4

    I totally agree he should have done prison time.

  • @rachelcrooks6999
    @rachelcrooks6999 Год назад +2

    Hi Dr Grande,
    I'm not sure where people should put their suggestions.
    I was hoping you'd be able to do a video on self harm?
    I believe this is something people should be educated on and I would love some of your insight on it

  • @RR_1138
    @RR_1138 Год назад +1

    I need a Tundra to tow my car to the race track. But , it’s too big and hate driving a truck . I’d only drive it to the track and never for errands, and I don’t have a indoor spot to park the trailer . 🤷🏽, Dr Grande mentioned he had a Tundra 😅

  • @miraclenichols4332
    @miraclenichols4332 Год назад +1

    Always here! ❤️ Thanx Dr G

  • @rullmourn1142
    @rullmourn1142 Год назад +5

    The prosecutors in this case were below adequate at doing their job, pathetic.
    Who watches the watchers?

  • @RationalGaze216
    @RationalGaze216 Год назад +2

    His sentence seems especially outrageous when compared to the driver of that out of control semi truck who got over 100 years in prison.

  • @julieyoung3315
    @julieyoung3315 Год назад

    Good Evening, Dr. Grande.

  • @archipiratta
    @archipiratta Год назад +5

    Thanks for sharing another hitherto forgotten but nonetheless interesting incident Doc! I'm eagerly awaiting your analysis of the Ume Idoka case.

  • @xeoiii
    @xeoiii Год назад +1

    My first guess would be that the driver took the alternative route because there's less of a grade. He may have stopped to let the brakes cool but it wasn't enough in the end to stop the car with all the extra weight.

  • @moonbear5929
    @moonbear5929 Год назад +2

    Hussain not only had contempt for the law, he also had contempt for his customers who unwittingly hired these death traps to ride in. How many of his other vehicles are in disrepair and have safety concerns?

  • @ofsinope
    @ofsinope Год назад

    Enjoyed the casual humble brag about your new truck ;)

  • @wendygorman1027
    @wendygorman1027 Год назад +1

    Dr. Grande is low key a car guy. Good video.

  • @ericsmith2855
    @ericsmith2855 Год назад +2

    Hello Dr Grande

  • @alexedmond6105
    @alexedmond6105 Год назад

    Doc subtly flexing his Tundra 💯🤩

  • @elle7268
    @elle7268 Год назад +1

    Thank you for being a voice for the victims and their families. This guy showed no regard for others. Balanced. Brilliant.🥇💫 May I suggest this for your analysis? Tom Philpott of the 1981 documentary 'Boys for Sale'

  • @rosiesullivan2604
    @rosiesullivan2604 Год назад +1

    Dr Grande this was a very tragic loss Omg 😫😪 am so sorry that 20 persons could have been living their best lives and that will never be so. Shocking!!! Everything you stated was very clear and correct couldnt put it better
    Sometimes there's no justice .

  • @thelotus8285
    @thelotus8285 Год назад +5

    I don't blame the driver. I blame the owner of the company.

    • @defunctdefunctdefunct
      @defunctdefunctdefunct Год назад +1

      I blame everyone. The driver included, he was high and clearly has a terrible driving history.

    • @thelotus8285
      @thelotus8285 Год назад

      @@defunctdefunctdefunct everybody?! Nah bro. Victims are not to blame here. But yes, the driver/owner are the real criminals.

    • @eadweard.
      @eadweard. Год назад

      @@thelotus8285 Why pretend you thought he meant the passengers too?

    • @windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823
      @windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 Год назад

      @@defunctdefunctdefunct How do you know he was high at the time? It wasn't legal yet, tho, and he was proven to be a regular user. I'm not opposed to it (not driving),and now it's legal.