"Life Coach" Cult Leader Forms College Student Cult | Lawrence Ray Case Analysis

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Комментарии • 822

  • @Adam-np5jx
    @Adam-np5jx Год назад +656

    Laughed out loud at “they realized they were in a desperate situation. Not only were they in a cult, they were living in New Jersey.” 😂😂

    • @jeffrey.a.hanson
      @jeffrey.a.hanson Год назад +33

      Growing up in NY, I can’t get enough of Grande’s digs at NJ. Slips them in at any chance he gets.

    • @user-vt9kc8ys1v
      @user-vt9kc8ys1v Год назад +16

      whats wrong with Jersey ??

    • @TheFakeyCakeMaker
      @TheFakeyCakeMaker Год назад +13

      I actually snorted.

    • @FoundinFlorida
      @FoundinFlorida Год назад +11

      I laughed out loud at this too… perfectly delivered!

    • @A-dth6wdh
      @A-dth6wdh Год назад +7

      It was so abrupt I couldn’t help but laugh 😂

  • @FireFortuna
    @FireFortuna Год назад +530

    "Not only am I in a cult, but I'm living in New Jersey" 🤣 I come for the True Crime and stay for Dr Grande's A+ Dad Jokes

    • @judeinLA.
      @judeinLA. Год назад +12

      Indeed. The ‘Rogue Agent’ statement 😆

    • @Kaash718
      @Kaash718 Год назад +7

      I lived there for 3 years, worst place I ever lived in.😂

    • @colinmontgomery1956
      @colinmontgomery1956 Год назад +4

      It was probably the best place, actually.

    • @caddywomppus
      @caddywomppus Год назад +4

      Yeah the Jersey thing was hilarious 😂

    • @bettusascaino5532
      @bettusascaino5532 Год назад +2

      Not funny at all. I stopped watching right there 🤨

  • @andrewdewit4711
    @andrewdewit4711 Год назад +259

    What the heck were the college administrators doing? Incredible lack of oversight.

    • @peculiarlittleman5303
      @peculiarlittleman5303 Год назад +74

      Perhaps they were so open-minded their brains fell out.

    • @lisanelke9726
      @lisanelke9726 Год назад +8

      @@peculiarlittleman5303😂😂😂

    • @moonstruck562
      @moonstruck562 Год назад +13

      @@pema661 really ? How's that even acceptable or permitted by other parents? Or students for that matter.

    • @lisamcdonald2877
      @lisamcdonald2877 Год назад +4

      Perhaps he registered for a class or two so he could live on campus.

    • @nhmooytis7058
      @nhmooytis7058 Год назад

      Worrying about making sure transgenders could use the bathroom they identified with.

  • @MichaelYoder1961
    @MichaelYoder1961 Год назад +94

    Everything you described in the students - sensitive, low self-esteem, gullible, etc. is exactly what cults look for.

    • @pyromaniac709
      @pyromaniac709 Год назад +6

      Damn I tick all the boxes but my social anxiety is so crippling I would end up burning the whole apartment down with them in there at the mere mention of sex

    • @kermitfrog593
      @kermitfrog593 Год назад +9

      These students grew up middle class and sheltered, that's the problem. A sixteen year old who grew up in the ghetto would never fall for a fifty year old man trying to talk his way into moving into their living room.

    • @thenewyorkcitizen
      @thenewyorkcitizen Год назад

      And people with lots of $$$

    • @kathrynb130
      @kathrynb130 Год назад +4

      @@kermitfrog593hey were not middle class. The three siblings especially so. Their parents don’t have money.

    • @lisasaims3007
      @lisasaims3007 Год назад +1

      @Kermitfrog you sure about that? Why are they in the ghetto then? Streetsmart yes, crime is also high there. Sad, but true

  • @researchersusie169
    @researchersusie169 Год назад +158

    Most schools don’t teach Critical Thinking Skills so Dr. Grande picked up the slack.
    👍🏼👍🏼 Thanks Dr. G!

    • @coweatsman
      @coweatsman Год назад +4

      Critical thinking skills and reflective insights will not be good for the economy. The same insecurities that allow people to be hooked by marketing or social media are the same insecurities which allow cult leaders to recruit members. Cultism is not in contrast to normal society but an exaggeration in micro of the larger macro.

    • @It-is-me...Melsie
      @It-is-me...Melsie 7 месяцев назад

      I agree with you, however I can also foresee the outcry from those claiming critical thinking skills is anti-religion.

  • @Mineav
    @Mineav Год назад +70

    Being a "life coach" has to be one of the easiest grifts out there. No degree or really any education required.

    • @kaybrown4010
      @kaybrown4010 Год назад +13

      And the naïve get crappy or harmful advice.

    • @lonestarindie
      @lonestarindie Год назад +9

      I agree, life coaches are grifters for sure

    • @socore4659
      @socore4659 Год назад +1

      When i moved to California in 2002, i stayed with my friend, he had his friend's girlfriend's card on the fridge and it said "life coach"... I laughed thinking it was a joke... Then laughed harder when i found out it wasn't...

    • @giabarrone7422
      @giabarrone7422 Год назад +3

      I followed a problematic Mormon housewife vlogger for several years. After making millions exploiting her children online, she started a life coaching cult with her son’s “therapist”. She even used some of the tactics this guy did, like having her family call out eachother’s flaws.
      If this poorly educated, not at all charming housewife can run a life coaching cult, anyone can. Thankfully, they are not particularly successful at recruitment, and even lost the 3 oldest members of her family. When the charming and intelligent criminals hear of the opportunities a life coaching scheme can provide, the world is in trouble.

    • @mynameispeaches
      @mynameispeaches 10 месяцев назад +1

      I feel the same way about pastors. No qualifications other than the gift of gab.

  • @xminusone1
    @xminusone1 Год назад +57

    Call himself a life coach but doesn't have his own apartments... seems legit to me.

    • @moonstruck562
      @moonstruck562 Год назад +6

      Right. Lmao

    • @ahenwaa5133
      @ahenwaa5133 Год назад +8

      Exactly. Why would I ever follow someone who can't get his sh*t together?!!

    • @moonstruck562
      @moonstruck562 Год назад +4

      @@ahenwaa5133 that's the power of manipulation I guess

    • @gigiarmany4332
      @gigiarmany4332 Год назад

      Ikr?😒🤯

  • @kdnick8584
    @kdnick8584 Год назад +106

    The parents are paying for this very expensive college. Had this happened to me, my father would have cut me off financially and dragged me the hell out of there. And Larry would have been looking for his teeth.

    • @GradyPhilpott
      @GradyPhilpott Год назад +9

      Sometimes, parents will do anything and pay anything to get their kids out of the house. If they can afford it, they can send the kids to a private university, where paying your tuition is often enough for you to get by academically.

    • @darlahaines6928
      @darlahaines6928 Год назад +16

      There's something to be said for attending a community college, at least for the general beginning courses.

    • @GradyPhilpott
      @GradyPhilpott Год назад +22

      @@darlahaines6928 There is a lot of good things to say about attending a good community college for the first two years of college. One of the most important of those things is how much money can be saved and another is the opportunity to transition from home life to campus life and all the problems that can arise from having more freedom than one can manage at too young an age.

    • @darlahaines6928
      @darlahaines6928 Год назад +5

      @@GradyPhilpott Thanks, very well stated!

    • @Richard.Hybels
      @Richard.Hybels Год назад +7

      “Larry would bd looking for his teeth.” 😄😄😄😄. Same if it was my kid but on the other hand any kid of mind would not fall for it.

  • @kojopumpuni2603
    @kojopumpuni2603 Год назад +121

    I find it interesting why the college never removed him from the campus. As a business I feel as though the safety of students would be a top priority.

    • @violent_bebop9687
      @violent_bebop9687 Год назад +28

      The college has direct fault for allowing him to stay there. It's criminal negligence !

    • @moonstruck562
      @moonstruck562 Год назад +6

      @@violent_bebop9687 at best! Smh

    • @ladosis5596
      @ladosis5596 Год назад +11

      Seems to me that between something like this, traumatic brain injury in sports, hazing and Greek life abuses and widespread sexual assault of coeds, student safety seems to least of all concerns in US colleges/universities

    • @tiffanyeyoung1800
      @tiffanyeyoung1800 Год назад +3

      You would be very surprised at how little they care about the safety of the students. That's why you hear so much about crimes that are committed on the campus

    • @violent_bebop9687
      @violent_bebop9687 Год назад +3

      @@tiffanyeyoung1800 as always with overpaid administrators, they only understand LAWSUITS.
      But trans stuff they all on it every second!

  • @jnhorn1
    @jnhorn1 Год назад +111

    Why would the university allow this grown-ass man to stay in the dormitory? This is beyond all logic and understanding. If someone approaches you as a life coach with no certifications, education, and/or any documentation of credibility please run far away!! A very tragic story for the young victims involved. I appreciate another great analysis Dr. Grande😃

    • @lishamarlar4597
      @lishamarlar4597 Год назад +2

      The home wouldn't take him. 😆😆😆😆

    • @jnhorn1
      @jnhorn1 Год назад +11

      @@lishamarlar4597 Guess not! He had to be a creepy weirdo and follow his daughter to college and manipulate/abuse people her age. It is so messed up.

    • @Carole67182
      @Carole67182 Год назад +15

      I wonder if any of these people were able to sue the college for allowing this cult leader to stay in the dormitory, putting them in harm's way.

    • @shermikascutchings353
      @shermikascutchings353 Год назад +3

      @@Carole67182 I was wondering the same thing 🤔

    • @angelinparadise7282
      @angelinparadise7282 Год назад +11

      that was the most confusing part to me. I'm not from USA, so I dont know if it's a.common thing to do, to just have random people who aren't attending classes to sleep in a college room? how does it even work, don't they need that space to give to someone who has classes there? so strange.

  • @huffysheraton
    @huffysheraton Год назад +49

    Larry should try Scientology, he would be a natural at it.

  • @judeinLA.
    @judeinLA. Год назад +65

    No good deed goes unpunished.
    The friend allowed him to stay at his place. Yet, Larry turned the one bedroom apartment into a college dormitory.

    • @Froggy77100
      @Froggy77100 Год назад

      He's not innocent. He participated in the sxual abuse Larry had set up & may have also paid for it along with other videos.

  • @jenanne31
    @jenanne31 Год назад +112

    Manipulators like Lawrence Ray are despicable. I hope they never let him out of prison. Thank you for the great content, Dr. Grande.

    • @paulraymond890
      @paulraymond890 Год назад +1

      Hi Jen
      How are you today?🌹🌹

    • @benjamindover4337
      @benjamindover4337 Год назад

      Sounds like you are jealous.

    • @answerman9933
      @answerman9933 Год назад

      And I hope the former students are never placed in a place of leadership. Clearly they stupid and easily manipulated.

    • @vrjanice2
      @vrjanice2 11 месяцев назад +4

      60 years in prison was his sentence

    • @blascantu7221
      @blascantu7221 2 месяца назад

      @@vrjanice2good

  • @bottlesofchris
    @bottlesofchris Год назад +11

    He was diabolical. So scary how easily he manipulated the kids and separated them from their parents. This is a big lesson in parenting shouldn’t end for college aged kids

  • @josiah5776
    @josiah5776 Год назад +30

    "He was always looking for their weaknesses. Looking for a way to make them feel worse about themselves." I was married to a woman who exceled at this. She was later diagnosed as a psychopath. Needless to say, we are no longer together.

    • @petrasworld913
      @petrasworld913 Год назад +2

      Thank goodness!

    • @betsysorrell1357
      @betsysorrell1357 Год назад +1

      Thankful for this information. This is a great help to many people young and old!

    • @catherinewilson1079
      @catherinewilson1079 Год назад +1

      Or could have ben a malevolent narcissist.

    • @samb4768
      @samb4768 5 месяцев назад +1

      So sorry. So glad you’re out of that!

  • @Spoiledstoic
    @Spoiledstoic Год назад +47

    At this point I demand you do a whole case analysis on New Jersey lol

  • @lisztresurrected9438
    @lisztresurrected9438 Год назад +127

    "Life coach" is in the same category as "self-help guru" in terms of believability and validity as a profession.

    • @dcnative1618
      @dcnative1618 Год назад +20

      There are no certifications for life coach. You and I could dream up a ridiculous idea, target celebrities and get rich without accruing pesky student loans .

    • @mytruecrimelibrary
      @mytruecrimelibrary Год назад +5

      Or pick up artists

    • @bthomson
      @bthomson Год назад +9

      What must it be like to finally wake up after being a cult follower and realize how you have wasted your life!?

    • @jeffrey.a.hanson
      @jeffrey.a.hanson Год назад +4

      @@dcnative1618 That’s the false narrative. A Certified Life Coach goes through quite extensive training. The issue in the industry is that ‘Life Coach’ can be legally used by anyone unlike ‘Therapist’. This leads to confusion.
      In a sense you are correct, tho, since most Life Coaches that you hear about ARE ‘fake gurus’ with no training other than their own beliefs. Sorta like a Personal Trainer. The good ones aren’t in it to flex their abs for Instagram.
      Just some food for thought since predators often hide behind much more trusting prefixes such as Dr or Pastor. Or the second coming of Jesus…maybe God, himself. 🤷‍♂️

    • @lisztresurrected9438
      @lisztresurrected9438 Год назад +7

      @@jeffrey.a.hanson While there are indeed certification boards, I wonder if they're actually anymore valid than the non certified. Just like I've seen many tradesman who are "certified" in something but pretty much useless.

  • @lloywilliams8149
    @lloywilliams8149 Год назад +37

    This is so tragic. Not only did these young people lose years of their lives, but now they will no doubt spend years feeling stupid and humiliated. What an awful waste of potential. Even if they get their lives back on track, they will probably feel bitter about their wasted years. It's awful that one terrible person can cause this much damage.

    • @janinemccartha1811
      @janinemccartha1811 Год назад

      Hi Dr. Grande. I hope the college students get their lives back together & erase psychonarc Ray from their memory. He was only interested in himself=no empathy = once again psychonarc. Love your channel & hope you have a chance to 🦓 see my comment. Hope you're having a splendid evening, peace & awesome times hopefully await you, peace, Janine Smiley😀🙂😎🤩😍🚘🚗🏡☕🥧☕🎂☕🍰⌚🛋🐥🐤🐣🐦🐼🐻🐨🐾🐧

    • @pyromaniac709
      @pyromaniac709 Год назад +1

      What exactly does it means losing years of your life?
      Nobody seems to point out exactly what it is

    • @lloywilliams8149
      @lloywilliams8149 Год назад +1

      @@pyromaniac709 Ok, say you graduate from university at 22. You're ready to take on your first job, and you find yourself to have very marketable skills and loads of job opportunities. But then you fall in with a cult (or some charismatic person), and you are, say, 30 when you shake yourself loose. So here you are, trying to recover from the severe PTSD from being abused for years, trying to reestablish bonds with family and friends that may have not seen you for years, trying to rebuild trust with people who would have helped you back in the day. Not only do you have all that baggage to deal with that you did not have at 22, but you are now pretty old to be starting your career, trying to explain to potential employers why you have such a poor work history.
      I have several friends who left years-long relationships with narcissists, only then realizing that they worked for years in less than ideal jobs to support their partners instead of developing their own career paths. Because after the partner got their great degree/job, it was supposed to be "their turn" to pursue their dreams. The narcissistic partner drained my friends' savings while withholding their own money, treating themselves very nicely. Now my friends feel that years of their life, along with their money and best career possibilities, have been wasted. They are dealing with debt and dysfunction. That's not even the worst. It's terrible and sad. It's a waste of potential.

    • @petrasworld913
      @petrasworld913 Год назад +1

      I don't know if stupid and humiliated would be the primary emotions. It seems like they would have ptsd for years and great anger. It may take years of therapy for them to get their heads on straight again.

  • @lukespack
    @lukespack Год назад +126

    You have to wonder how St. Lawrence allowed him to stay in a dorm? The whole episode is a nightmare. I would hope he never leaves prison.

    • @dixgun
      @dixgun Год назад +14

      I was wondering about that as well. His charm and charisma must be at mystical levels.

    • @GrumpyCat-mw5xl
      @GrumpyCat-mw5xl Год назад +35

      The college should be sued. The negligence is astounding.

    • @ellis7622
      @ellis7622 Год назад +12

      @@GrumpyCat-mw5xl absolutely, the whole situation is mind blowing.

    • @BenState
      @BenState Год назад +11

      criminal negligence in my opinion.

    • @grannygoes7882
      @grannygoes7882 Год назад +17

      I think he said Sarah Lawrence which is considered Ivy League. A student would pay thousands to live there and he camped out for nothing. Makes no sense.

  • @lindieinred
    @lindieinred Год назад +45

    I live 10 mins away from Sarah Lawrence and this is the first time I’m hearing so much detail about the case. The media around here was very tight lipped about it.

    • @kermitfrog593
      @kermitfrog593 Год назад +11

      Colleges are powerful institutions and their tentacles reach everywhere, including the media. I'm glad the documentary came out, but wish it was on Netflix so it got a wider audience. Sarah Lawrence has a lot to answer for.

  • @horrortackleharry
    @horrortackleharry Год назад +53

    The Sarah Lawrence College website says they are all about "Connecting Passions. Creating Futures". Which I guess is exactly what they did in allowing this creep to freely roam around the campus.

    • @NotChefCook
      @NotChefCook Год назад

      SO glad I chose not to go there ... even forty-plus years ago it seemed to me a petri dish of dipshittery , aggressive credulity and frank stupidity ... the last primarily evident in the administration's criminally irresponsible behavior . If the families of those poor dim college kids did NOT sue the pants off Sarah Lawrence , they missed a sterling opportunity to send not only institutions of higher learning but the damn world a strong message .

    • @victoriavitoroulis3273
      @victoriavitoroulis3273 Год назад +3

      This was going on for yrs .. I was paying 75 k a yr 10 yrs ago for tuition . … great university 🥰

    • @BuchholzerIn1
      @BuchholzerIn1 Год назад

      @@victoriavitoroulis3273 omg. So sorry 😮

  • @zenawarrior7442
    @zenawarrior7442 Год назад +56

    These cults and life coaches, I swear 🤬. Terrible to take advantage of people. Such wonderful points again for us to learn. Thanks Dr G😊💛💚

  • @tomrobbins5242
    @tomrobbins5242 Год назад +15

    University should be sued.

  • @peryton4598
    @peryton4598 Год назад +7

    If I had some dude call me saying my daughter wasn't coming home for Christmas cause she was scared of me....he would soon learn what it really means to be scared of me.....

  • @ferdiecassel3697
    @ferdiecassel3697 Год назад +13

    Dr. Grande nailed it. Took my kids to all the Six Flags theme parks on the East Coast one summer. After that trip, I never wanted to set foot or even drive in New Jersey again.

    • @moonstruck562
      @moonstruck562 Год назад +4

      What's so bad about NJ ? Lol I'm asking genuinely btw. I've lived in Cali all my life. Visited NY once and checked it off of my bucket list. Didn't get a chance to see NJ (maybe lucky me lol) but very familiar w the Doc's everlasting repulsion of it 😁

    • @ahenwaa5133
      @ahenwaa5133 Год назад +1

      I want to know too 🥴

  • @JosephLupoli
    @JosephLupoli Год назад +66

    So, Dr. Grande . . . this Larry Ray character spent all of 19 days in the Airforce?
    Maybe he was afraid of heights--or of powerful secret agents who were "out to get him".😄
    In any case, this dude is one sick pup!
    Edit: Thank you for presenting us with this disturbing yet compelling case, Dr. Grande!👍

    • @lukespack
      @lukespack Год назад +1

      He probably tried some of his hocum there and he was kicked out.

    • @jeffrey.a.hanson
      @jeffrey.a.hanson Год назад

      Tom Cruise 101. Cruise was just smart enough to get paid to millions to ‘play’ an Air Force Pilot…and join an existing cult, not create one.
      So I take that back. Cruise would be disappointed.

    • @Schiffon
      @Schiffon Год назад +1

      😂👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

    • @marionm5311
      @marionm5311 Год назад

      😁😅🤣🤣🤣✈✈✈✈✈

  • @brianmorger2174
    @brianmorger2174 Год назад +18

    Dr. Grande always "slays me" when he mentions New Jersey in context with the content. He's "got me" many times and always leaves me chuckling and smiling.

  • @thelocalmaladroit8873
    @thelocalmaladroit8873 Год назад +71

    It never ceases to amaze me that these predators find young, vulnerable victims so easily.
    6:17 was waiting for “the sex part”. It’s always present sooner or later with these types.
    The NJ humor goes without saying!
    Thank you, Dr Grande for posting on my birthday. It’s always good to have another one of those.
    With that thought, today I choose joy!❤️

    • @bthomson
      @bthomson Год назад +4

      Happy Birthday! 👑🎂

    • @loudtim265
      @loudtim265 Год назад +4

      Happy birthday! 🎉

    • @mangafq8
      @mangafq8 Год назад +4

      Happy Birthday!

    • @arielleswinkels982
      @arielleswinkels982 Год назад +5

      A nice birthday present from Dr Grande. Happy birthday!

    • @gaiaiulia
      @gaiaiulia Год назад +3

      Happy birthday! 🎈🎂

  • @joytrujillo9447
    @joytrujillo9447 Год назад +5

    Disgusting on so many levels.
    Why was the college not sued for allowing this to happen?

  • @missyskye_sea_land9424
    @missyskye_sea_land9424 Год назад +14

    My thought immediately when I heard that he was living in his daughter’s dorm, “creepy!” Then, my goosebumps went away when I kept hearing about NJ😅

  • @mangafq8
    @mangafq8 Год назад +8

    The shade on New Jersey never gets old.😂🤣😂🤣

  • @cottontails9003
    @cottontails9003 Год назад +51

    Good morning Dr Grande. This man sounds like a "dirty old man ". Some of his orders were absolutely disgusting. I'm so pleased here got caught and will send the rest of his life in prison. Thank you Dr Grande. Brilliant analysis and informative topic.

  • @claracarpenter8913
    @claracarpenter8913 Год назад +36

    Doesn't the college that let him live in the dorm have any culpability? I would think the parents should get together to do something about that. I don't understand why those students couldn't see how creepy he was. Now they will have to deal with the aftermath and try to get back on track, I think it won't be easy.

    • @edithmr21o
      @edithmr21o Год назад +5

      Parents complained about it but the college didn't took any axn

    • @evelynwaugh4053
      @evelynwaugh4053 Год назад +8

      I agree totally, but I suspect that the kids were actually legally adults in that state. 18 year olds may be very immature, inexperienced, and naive, but they are technically adults. The college still may have breached some duty to the students and parents, though, and there are probably civil suits in progress.

    • @tiffanyeyoung1800
      @tiffanyeyoung1800 Год назад +3

      Being brainwashed and indoctrinated does that to you

  • @Flamsterette
    @Flamsterette Год назад +32

    Thanks for the upload before my own online therapy appointment, Dr. Grande. I appreciate your calm demeanor.

  • @sarahalbers5555
    @sarahalbers5555 Год назад +29

    Dr. G., I am not a life coach, but would you consider taking a look at the Chandra Levy case?
    I only knew one person who had a life coach, and he was a hot mess. I think the life coach made him way worse.
    I refused to see him, he was too unpredictable.

  • @phillumenistfilms
    @phillumenistfilms Год назад +5

    "Soooo many very bad men out there. Very, very, very, very bad men"
    - Babu from Seinfeld

  • @galelascala105
    @galelascala105 Год назад +10

    None of the parents went to pick up their kids and bring them home?

  • @megleland6320
    @megleland6320 Год назад +35

    I have read several stories about this case in online magazines, but your analysis is the most complete so far, great job!

    • @405OKCShiningOn
      @405OKCShiningOn Год назад +3

      yep, cross reference current events and topics here. hes science, sanity, heart based. he wont steer pple wrong. Doc G did a upload on NLP. very important. good education here.

  • @lisabenson
    @lisabenson Год назад +20

    I thoroughly enjoyed the comparison to other cult leaders at the end. Your thoughts are profound, detailed, and always entertaining!

  • @mrwillard95
    @mrwillard95 Год назад +5

    So these students were smart enough to go to college to study medicine, but not smart enough to see the obvious red flags from this guy? wtf?😂😂

  • @portalomus
    @portalomus Год назад +7

    She generated 2.5 million in 4 years as a sex worker?! Wow I'm in the wrong profession.

  • @marisela7825
    @marisela7825 Год назад +8

    How does anyone have the intelligence to get into medical school, and at the same time fall for someone like this guy?!?!?! Anytime I see these stories about people in cults, I try to imagine myself in a simple conversation with one of these cult leaders! Lol I laugh at loud thinking how upset they would be to meet ME! I picture myself looking at them crazy or laughing at them with their attempts to talk me into something! There is no amount of "charm" Larry could use to get me to go along with this nonsense! To me, it baffles me. It doesn't make any sense at all. I say this as your everyday average type person. I view anyone in medical school as someone with high intelligence. As Dr. Grande states, that still is not enough to keep from being victim to this sort of thing. It truly leaves me stumped. I am definitely not the sharpest tool in the shed, but it would never work on me. Quite the argument for ignorance being bliss! Lol

    • @nhmooytis7058
      @nhmooytis7058 Год назад

      Talked much to doctors? Most get A’s in science classes but are dumb as a box of rocks about everything else. Some are quacks.

    • @ED80s
      @ED80s 11 месяцев назад +1

      I don't think intelligence is the issue. She felt a void in her life. She had to be second mom to her siblings growing up because her parents worked a lot. She said it herself, for once someone was taking care of HER. These fuckers find their victims weaknesses then pretend to be this wonderful caring intelligent person and then reel them in. Mental abuse / brainwashing is hard to break away from.

    • @stephieblob
      @stephieblob Месяц назад

      Intelligence has nothing to do with it. Don’t judge you weren’t in her shoes.

  • @NickvonZ
    @NickvonZ Год назад +12

    "life coach", "psychic medium", "influencer", "ReiKi 'master'", "10th Degree GrandMaster" (in a martial that NO ONE ever heard of} ..........
    The MOST asinine (and ALL self assigned!) "job titles" in existence! TOTAL BULL💩!!!
    Unfortunately, "cult leader" can be a REAL thing.

    • @healerscreek
      @healerscreek Год назад +4

      Add "energy worker" and "ghostbuster" to that list! 🤣

    • @MeganVictoriaKearns
      @MeganVictoriaKearns 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@healerscreeklol 😂😂😂😂 "ghostbuster" those people omg... 👻👻👻👻👻👻

  • @i8143
    @i8143 Год назад +54

    “Not only were they in a cult…. They were living in New Jersey”… couldn’t get much worse than that.

  • @lacypierce6487
    @lacypierce6487 Год назад +11

    Do you know who Larry reminds me of? Jim Jones! The way he gaslighted that kind of paranoia in his followers and moved them when he got paranoid about the government being on his tail. Only it was very fortunate that none of the poor college students got killed in the process.
    Psychopathy has been a special interest of mine since college (BA in Psychology) and I believe he’s much more psychopathic than narcissistic. Some psychopaths live very parasitic lives like that and tend to move through people just as quickly like that. I can’t believe that those clinicians claimed to have difficulty diagnosing him like that, either! Though some of them, unfortunately, are not immune to falling for that kind of charm. I, on the other hand, tend to think with my head way too much. One of my grandmothers was histrionic besides. So I tend to roll my eyes at that kind of charm.
    As for the dorm thing, my best guesses there is that he either charmed, threatened, or bribed them into letting him stay. Psychopaths are often very clever at creating shocking train wrecks when turning-or should I say foisting?-the mirror of the other person’s weakness back onto them. I know because one tried to do that to me years ago.
    They think that people are pieces of meat to be hunted, “eaten” and then dropped once they think that there’s nothing more of that person to “eat” on.

  • @mattblom3990
    @mattblom3990 Год назад +8

    I oddly like Dr. Grande's filming background. I live in Vancouver where we're soaked in perpetual rain 9 months of the year so brick, terra cotta, and cacti is oddly pleasant.

    • @theblouselady7219
      @theblouselady7219 Год назад

      Hi fellow Canadian. Scotian here, where in 1 day you can have all 4 Seasons.🤣

  • @CL-lo4wd
    @CL-lo4wd Год назад +12

    I was so horrified by this that I really needed your wisely timed comment about them being in a cult and in NJ. I laughed out loud for real! Here’s to my favorite doctor!

    • @Robert08010
      @Robert08010 Год назад +1

      Why do people say that? Is it unusual for you to laugh out loud? I'm just personally curious because I actually laugh out loud at least once a day. When I read a comment like yours (no offense) It makes me wonder if there are a lot of people who don't laugh out loud every day.

  • @sarahspencer1010
    @sarahspencer1010 Год назад +8

    ... and they were living in New Jersey... 🤣 Fascinating analysis. How in the world the the college let him stay there???

  • @nishottara777
    @nishottara777 Год назад +40

    This shows how fragile the human mind really is and how prone to manipulation we all are...the film Martha Marcy May Marlene comes to mind and does a decent job of showing this scenario from the perspective of a young woman who falls prey to it. I used to live with a woman who grew up in a hippie cult in Italy. Definitely had some serious issues...

    • @SunnyAndShare
      @SunnyAndShare Год назад +4

      Well, not everybody is that susceptible to manipulation and cult tactics. These manipulators are also usually very good at picking out vulnerable people to victimize.

  • @ebonypenguin2899
    @ebonypenguin2899 Год назад +5

    Taking three years to evict a tenant who is not paying rent and has severely damaged the property. Normally I would say, only in America, however, landlords have it just as bad in Queensland, Australia.

  • @scoon2117
    @scoon2117 Год назад +14

    Its mystifying how impressionable and malleable people can be. Like robots you can hack into with just a bit of charisma.

    • @simoncoco1
      @simoncoco1 Год назад

      I believe narcissists are actually the most vulnerable to cults: they are seduced by the idea that finally a small community and its 'important' guru/leader figure sees views them with the same esteem with which they see themselves.
      Narcissists believe that their lack of achievements and interpersonal problems are due to being misunderstood or victimised; the cult affirms this and explains to them that only the cult is intelligent enough to see them as the elite person that they are.

    • @nadermazari3334
      @nadermazari3334 Год назад +3

      Most people are quite gullible. Same goes for a lot of these churches.

    • @pyromaniac709
      @pyromaniac709 Год назад

      @@nadermazari3334 really?cause everytime i try to manipulate someone they find out at the minute

    • @nadermazari3334
      @nadermazari3334 Год назад

      @@pyromaniac709 Your level of trickery must encompass a combination of "sophisticated simplicity." Most folks see through numbskullish bullshit and ironically become suspicious of stuff that sounds too "complicated." The religious people have fine-tuned it as an art and a science. Have you any idea how much the business of religion makes? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @dixgun
    @dixgun Год назад +5

    Thanks, Dr. Grande, for giving us a way to view this whirlwind. Some of the photos of Larry remind me of photos of another controversial and charismatic leader, Da Free John.

  • @bettinabarry8423
    @bettinabarry8423 Год назад +6

    The New Jersey humor was a hoot! What a monster! He probable would have done great in politics. I hope he gets life in prison --- an extra bonus would be to have him live out the rest of his life in isolation. Thanks you, Dr Grande for your excellent analysis 👏

  • @kellyazeez9156
    @kellyazeez9156 Год назад +3

    I don't know what it is that Dr. Grande has against New Jersey, but his criticism of that state is brutal!

    • @ZYX84
      @ZYX84 Год назад

      "NewJersey, it’s somewhat like the people that live there…Sometimes weird sometimes greasy and not terribly classy." 😉

  • @wingman4356
    @wingman4356 Год назад +8

    This is very inspiring. I've never pursued my dream of becoming a cult leader, but now I believe I can. Thanks Dr. Grande!!!!! 😉

  • @helpyourcattodrive
    @helpyourcattodrive Год назад +16

    I hadn’t heard of this one. Thanks for an interesting story and analysis today, Grande. I really appreciate it. Can’t wait for the next Grande video.:)

  • @rejaneoliveira5019
    @rejaneoliveira5019 Год назад +38

    What a disturbing case! It’s puzzling to see that seemingly intelligent people were also victims of this horrible manipulation.
    Great analysis as usual! Thank you, Dr. Grande.❤
    *FYI, I will be carving a pumpkin with a cactus shape in honor of my favorite influencer.🍂🍁🌵🎃🍂🍁

    • @bthomson
      @bthomson Год назад +3

      Rejane - Boy! New Jersey took it on the chin! I do so like all Dr. Grande's pet peeves! Also his beautiful shirts! 👕 Hope you have a great Autumn!

    • @rejaneoliveira5019
      @rejaneoliveira5019 Год назад +2

      @@bthomson Oh yes, New Jersey can never scape scot free.😅

    • @moonstruck562
      @moonstruck562 Год назад +2

      Ahhhhhh that's so cute!!! Carved pumpkin in a shape of a cactus? Now that's a site to see!
      One- you must be extremely talented to pull this off 😁 and two - I can't think of anything else that would honor Dr. Grande any higher.
      Love the idea 😍❤👍

    • @rejaneoliveira5019
      @rejaneoliveira5019 Год назад +1

      @@moonstruck562 Thank you so much!😊

    • @nhmooytis7058
      @nhmooytis7058 Год назад +1

      SEEMINGLY being the operative word.😅

  • @ericdodson2644
    @ericdodson2644 Год назад +9

    It's extremely important to develop good scamdar in the 21st century.

  • @robertthompson5908
    @robertthompson5908 Год назад +3

    I followed this story in the paper - I could not wrap my head around.

  • @IndigoBellyDance
    @IndigoBellyDance 4 месяца назад

    Your dry sarcastic witty sense of humor, allows us to laugh while listening to this Horrible story/situation. I appreciate your wit & humor:) thank you 🙏

  • @riversong_
    @riversong_ Год назад +11

    $2.5m over four years and she wasn't using her college degree for that income. Makes you think about career aspirations.

    • @ahenwaa5133
      @ahenwaa5133 Год назад +2

      Unfortunately she didn't keep a cent of that money. Talk about wasted years.....

  • @vladimirputindreadlockrast812
    @vladimirputindreadlockrast812 Год назад +5

    A fascinating story, but I'm not satisfied. I think I speak for many who want to know more about how a full grown man who is not a student was allowed to live in a dormitory in this age of stranger danger and creeps. Somebody else has to share the guilt here.

  • @julieyoung3315
    @julieyoung3315 Год назад

    Good Day,Dr. Grande. Sounds exciting!

  • @PrivateAckbar
    @PrivateAckbar Год назад +6

    It would be really interesting to hear your analysis of Stefan Molyneux.

  • @CountrysideCutie
    @CountrysideCutie Год назад +3

    9:47-9:59....🤣....That phrase/humorous line had me giggling! Have a great weekend, Dr. Grande!☺️🌵

  • @stocrimonte5400
    @stocrimonte5400 Год назад +5

    I went on vacation in New Jersey for 2 weeks, it wasn't bad at all. Nothing out of the ordinary happened to me.

  • @producerjc2941
    @producerjc2941 Год назад +9

    I think in order to be a cult leader, one would either have to be narcissistic and psychopathic, or psychotic to some degree and genuinely believe what they're doing is right and rational in order to fulfill some delusional objective. It's possible some even have both antisocial and psychotic traits or personalities.

    • @Schiffon
      @Schiffon Год назад +1

      Totally

    • @sebu1301
      @sebu1301 Год назад +1

      I think Larry had amphetamine psychosis on top of his anti social personality. At least a magazine article claimed he was a heavy user. He probably needed to believe his own stories to be convincing enough, they were so preposterous

    • @SunnyAndShare
      @SunnyAndShare Год назад

      You don't have to think what you're doing is right. He pretty clearly got off on it being wrong.

  • @m.f.richardson1602
    @m.f.richardson1602 Год назад +7

    Damn, I'm a boring person.
    The people you talk about amaze Me. How they make up stories and behavior.
    Most of his descriptions sound like my NM.
    Always love humor.
    Thank you.
    Peace 💕🇺🇲

  • @Ockerby
    @Ockerby 9 месяцев назад

    I'm so very glad that videos like this are available!
    This Larry guy was a predatory, parasitic, dominator, and I'm glad that examples like this are available for everyone to see, to expose them...
    Great work Dr. Grande!

  • @michelefizer2774
    @michelefizer2774 Год назад +8

    Wow! Crazy and interesting story. Thank you as alwaysDr. Grande. I hope you and yourfamilyhaveagreatweekend!!

  • @sunnycatc6491
    @sunnycatc6491 Год назад +17

    How can I not click on this title? Actually it CAN get worse...I went to college in New Jersey AND there was one of these creeps LIVING IN A DORM!! Dr. Grande how about the case of Stacey Kananen, she recently wrote a book about NOT killing her mother...I'm diagnosing her a pathological liar. Thank you for your tireless production 💖

    • @moonstruck562
      @moonstruck562 Год назад +5

      I can't wrap my mind around how this is even legal. My kid's going to college next year and I'll be damned if i pay a college allowing a grown ass man living in the dorms. Nope! She'll be out the next day

    • @sunnycatc6491
      @sunnycatc6491 Год назад +4

      @@moonstruck562 Good for you. I think it was an age discrimination thing. This guy was considered "cool," he gave me a ride on a motorcycle and we ended up somewhere in the Pine Barrens. Dr G knows where that is 😆. I made it out OK but looking back...it was very very wrong.

  • @lalalovengun
    @lalalovengun Год назад

    Excellent analysis!!

  • @maryrasmussen7859
    @maryrasmussen7859 10 месяцев назад

    Good one for sure Dr. Grande! I thoughly enjoyed this one......and u really hit the nail on the nose I agree w/ u. Have a great evening!

  • @chewacan
    @chewacan Год назад

    Thanks Dr. Grande. You are excellent at finding stories about intelligent people who have extraordinary bad judgment.

  • @iateyourwebkinsinfourthgrade
    @iateyourwebkinsinfourthgrade Год назад +1

    Your consistent disparaging of the state of New Jersey is one of my favorite things about this channel.

  • @christinley5213
    @christinley5213 Год назад +4

    Holy crap… this is a Friday video for sure.. always wild ones!! I think this is important for people to know about! Love the shirt doc:)

  • @sdsurfgirl60
    @sdsurfgirl60 Год назад +2

    Hi Dr. Grande, great video. I am intrigued by your analysis of New Jersey I also wonder how do you feel about Florida?

  • @Olive131
    @Olive131 Год назад +2

    Thanks Dr. Grande!

  • @helpyourcattodrive
    @helpyourcattodrive Год назад +6

    Within aa sometimes subgroups pop up and as a lonely alcoholic newcomer years ago I started going to pizza after a meeting w one such group. One of them was some kind of a pastor, but I didn’t hear the word jesus or anything like it, but one time when I got there and sat down the group said I needed to ask the pastor guy for permission to sit. I spoke out and told them they were nuts and then I left. But that was weird. Years later I saw one of the group in a restaurant and his news was that the pastor had died. That was weird, the whole thing. I’m not susceptible to weird group dynamics.

  • @Allen2
    @Allen2 Год назад +3

    Dr. G, check your ads: the life coaching industry has figured out that your viewers enjoy your content about them!

    • @Vonononie
      @Vonononie Год назад

      Channels have zero control over the adverts placed by RUclips

    • @Allen2
      @Allen2 Год назад +1

      @@Vonononie Yes, the algorithm is erroneously and ironically noticing the Dr G viewers watch content that covers life coaches, (in general and in specific - i.e. Teal Swan,) but critiques and exposes them as worthless deceptive hucksters, assumes that we wish to consume further life coach content, and pushes their advertising at us; completely unaware that we find only humor in their wasted ads. Your comment's converse appear to be true: advertisers have control over the types of channels they place their ads on.

    • @THE-id1by
      @THE-id1by Год назад +1

      @@Allen2 an ironic and serendipitous benefit for his channel.

  • @renee1961
    @renee1961 Год назад +2

    The advertisement just before you was for a Life Coach training.

  • @Rachel-gq3cw
    @Rachel-gq3cw Год назад

    Ayeee DR. GRANDE hope all is well!!!

  • @jolly7728
    @jolly7728 Год назад +2

    Thank you for discussing this scourge upon college-aged youth. Cults tend to fly under the radar for many years before their destructive practices come to light. College students and recent graduates seem to get targeted by cultic recruiters more than other demographics. It’s odd how nothing proactive, legally or otherwise, can be done about them, accept for parents to warn their children about such groups, although this is not a guarantee to protect young people. In any case, the problem is huge and likely to get worse as post adolescents appear to be more and more disconnected from a loving, "normal" family structure as time goes on.

  • @seraphina2293
    @seraphina2293 Год назад +1

    The amount of people that got roasted in this video. Cult leaders, Teal swan and the whole of New Jersey, no is safe from this guy.

  • @liftedbodhisattva
    @liftedbodhisattva Год назад +6

    In the end, Larry wasn't quite as savvy. Poor Larry living out life like a mirror.

  • @keithjackson4985
    @keithjackson4985 Год назад +2

    Goes to show how impressionable, gullible some young people are. Also how dangerous and evil many adults can be.

  • @willieneon1
    @willieneon1 Год назад +1

    "He lived in New Jersey! Lol!! I like your subtle sense of humor!

  • @JackRainfield
    @JackRainfield Год назад +2

    People who join cults always amaze and astound me. I guess I was just born skeptical so I assume others have it too.

  • @crabofchaos7881
    @crabofchaos7881 Год назад +3

    Now, I've never been to the States, but thanks to Dr Grande I know I'm not ever going near New Jersey. Most likely I'll keep my distance from this hell portal at around 5000 miles away.

  • @Notavailableatthistime
    @Notavailableatthistime Год назад +7

    We need to teach our children better. Especially our daughters. Our society would be 💯 better if we teach them to be more discerning with the men they allow in their lives. I put this mildly…. And frankly we need to do better with our sons. I’m sick of toxicity and red flags being ignored…and in the end these young women are left with the repercussions…one includes raising some deadbeat’s babies. Just a general observation in regards to young women and what they should be aware of. Sad stuff

    • @eadweard.
      @eadweard. Год назад +1

      Apart from being rather pompous, these are very confused remarks. This is like hearing about a neglectful parent staving their child and announcing, "We must do more to nourish our children!".
      Anyone likely to say such a thing, or to listen to it, already does so. And the sort of people liable to starve their child won't hear it or won't care.

    • @Notavailableatthistime
      @Notavailableatthistime Год назад +1

      @@eadweard. perhaps you are confused. Pompous was not my intention. It was simply an observation of seeing these young women in these vulnerable situations. And stating the fact we need to do better teaching our children. Now yes, this is woman-centric observation, but we need to teach our daughter to expect more and how to stand up for themselves and to prevent these type of people into their lives. We need to teach our sons to be better. Our young women are getting into these relationships and situations and are the ones who suffer the most. These poor young women were coerced into prostitution. My example was the fact that our young women are not taught to look out for themselves, (of which my example was that there is an epidemic of women having children with deadbeat fathers).
      Break the cycle people. Women in particular…teach your daughters to expect better. And yes, we need to teach our sons to be better.

    • @eadweard.
      @eadweard. Год назад

      @@Notavailableatthistime These phrases - "Teach our sons to be better", "Teach our daughters to expect better", "Break the cycle" - are empty, fashionable slogans. They mean literally nothing in practical terms.
      People who already raise children with good values don't need these slogans. And people who are feckless enough to raise predators or prey won't be moved by them.

    • @Notavailableatthistime
      @Notavailableatthistime Год назад

      @@eadweard. do you think every single one of these young women was raised recklessly? That’s quite an assumption.

    • @eadweard.
      @eadweard. Год назад

      @@Notavailableatthistime Feckless, not reckless, although they aren't too dissimilar. And why the young women, specifically?

  • @Mandooze
    @Mandooze Год назад +4

    Hahahahaha u r so funny dr grande...the clinicians expertise vs larrys charisma and charm...😂😂❤❤❤

  • @ashtree8898
    @ashtree8898 Год назад +2

    I am from the UK so am interested to know what is wrong with New Jersey! Dr Grande’s attitude to it mimics my own sentiments towards the cathedral city my father grew up in. We had numerous miserable ‘holidays’ there when I was growing up.

    • @BadgerBotherer1
      @BadgerBotherer1 Год назад

      Which cathedral city did your father grow up in?

    • @ashtree8898
      @ashtree8898 Год назад +1

      @@BadgerBotherer1 I hasten to say I do not think there is anything wrong with the city itself. It is one of these situations where we can hate something by association. It was Hereford which has a most magnificent cathedral near which my father grew up.

    • @BadgerBotherer1
      @BadgerBotherer1 Год назад +1

      @@ashtree8898 I understand. Thanks. I don't think I've ever been to Hereford, although been to Gloucester, which has a fine cathedral, as does Winchester where I was born, but perhaps not as fine as Salisbury, which is a gigantic erection!

    • @ashtree8898
      @ashtree8898 Год назад +1

      @@BadgerBotherer1 Winchester is a lovely town with a beautiful cathedral. We went on holiday there some years back. I imagine it was a good place to grow up in. I see why you asked the question! I agree about our other imposing cathedrals. I lived in Gloucester years ago. Thank you for replying.

    • @BadgerBotherer1
      @BadgerBotherer1 Год назад +1

      @@ashtree8898 I didn't actually grow up in Winchester, but in smaller places quite near to there, although have been in Wales for years. Maybe New Jersey has a bad reputation in U.S. that we Brits don't know about. Hope you are not suffering from Ash Dieback Disease!

  • @mariamerigold
    @mariamerigold Год назад

    Thank you doc 😊

  • @TheOldandslow
    @TheOldandslow Год назад

    Dr Grande FTW another amazing synopsis!

  • @Loud2013
    @Loud2013 Год назад +5

    Wait... How did he get a room at Sarah Lawrence? Will they be held culpable for what happened??

    • @eadweard.
      @eadweard. Год назад +1

      I don't think they formally provided him with a room. The students just let him in.

    • @Loud2013
      @Loud2013 Год назад +2

      Still tho 🤦🏾

    • @eadweard.
      @eadweard. Год назад +4

      @@Loud2013 Oh yes, still utterly ridiculous!

    • @nmartin5551
      @nmartin5551 Год назад +2

      If I was paying for my kid to attend a private college and paying for their dorm room, I’d have an issue with them allowing a 50? Year old man who wasn’t a student live in the dorm.

  • @KK-dc3qk
    @KK-dc3qk Год назад +1

    Ending comment is spot on, thank you 💚🌵

  • @lisabass7584
    @lisabass7584 Год назад +1

    I knew nothing of this thank you Dr. Grande 😢

  • @billmurphy6272
    @billmurphy6272 Год назад +3

    Lol Todd, I live in NJ but I still love ya!

  • @queenreg7
    @queenreg7 Год назад +4

    How awful. He was able to get into the minds of young and vulnerable people. Thank God he didn’t go Manson Family and have them kill anyone.

  • @isaacinternet
    @isaacinternet Год назад

    What a wild story. I think I saw an ad for a docu-series about this.