11:22 And HyunJin location is Japan 😮... and she is up side down like Choerry, they are mirrors of each other... omg I can't wait for this new comeback and for the lore 😊
the scene where yeojin is running with the masked girls behind her actually kind of reminds me of in so what where all of the school girls run at yeojin and she throws the bag
I'm pretty sure that Hyeju is the person Yeojin reaches out at 2:09 !!! At the last scene of the teaser when we see the 5 members together, as you mentioned, Hyeju is the one wearing a leather jacket and in the scene where they reach out for each other you can see how the person on the left is wearing a black jacket! I don't know if it means too much but I find it interesting:) And, since Hyeju and Yeojin were both lost at the forest, maybe this could have some sort of connexion? In the Wildest case maybe is representing Hyeju helping Yeojin scape... I'm just super excited for the mv and album overall, it all looks fantastic 🥲❤️🩹❤️🩹❤️🩹 & great job in this video! Loved it as always ^^
Thank you so much! ^^ I really like your theory! It could make a lot of sense to put together the two "outsiders" of the group and connect their story. I honestly can't wait to find out what all of this is about! TT
hyunjin eating the flower and burning might also symbolize letting go of the past,since this is the first she’s activated her odd eye at all since choosing to go to earth with heejin instead of being with kim lip and jinsoul. lore wise she probably chose not to go the path of having powers and just live a normal life like we can kinda see in her solo mv, but she has to save yeojin. also the mirror probably has something to do with what she can do.
I can't HOLD MYSELF ANYMORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS MV MIGHT BE ONE OF THE BEST I HAVE EVER WATCHED 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍, by the way, how many times do you stream Game Theory 😏, don't worry I watched too so I understand your intention 😁. CAN'T WAIT FOR THE MV!!!!!!!
I have been a fan for years, one day I just wanted to know more about the five nights at freddy games and there is no way around the game theory videos lol ^^
@@florastel Poppy Playtime 😏😏, pretty simple, of course I don't play, I just watch, and when I first watched one of their theory videos about Poppy Playtime, I laughed the heck out of my throat 🤣🤣🤣🤣, they were so funny and surprisingly I always waited for their new theory about it all the time until now 😁, I do watch other game theories beside Poppy but Poppy 😎
4:19 I think the black orb references the girl's night mv with what we see in the end shooting yeojin with a laser and the consistent eyes throughout the mv
so i have theory there are animals on the album cover for each member cat deer wolf butterfy but for yeojin is a teddy bear stuffed toy not a real animal like other member so Yeojin is still a frog so maybe she can tranform ? (it might have something to do with the forest)
In ARTMS Virtual Angel a girl is filming ARTMS so that mostly might be Yeojin but she can't interact with ARTMS but she can record them since she's in between worlds.
TTYL - talk to you later - is a continuation of the Girls' Night MV. In Girls' Night, only GoWon, HyunJin and ViVi were seen holding the phone. However in the TTYL teaser poster, HyeJu was the one holding the phone. Maybe this time, we will figure out who they are talking to.
I usually don’t listen to teasers cause I wanna save my first listen for the full thing but I just couldn’t resist when the my teaser came out. Now I’m going crazyyy
not you getting hyunjin's odd eye theory omgg! i was so shocked with that mv moment cause to me it basically confirms the theory that hyunjin was originally from middle earth and was taken back to earth for some reason, then choerry was made to replace her (maybe the number three has something to do with stability in loonaverse? perhaps, the ODD moon could be a prophecy jinsoul and lip knew about?)
I love the video! I wanted to mention that the flower Hyunjin is eating, being from Japan, reminds me of the 2JIN Predebut video for "I'll Be There" with yellow being her assigned color and Japan being her assigned country. I know lore that far back is likely outdated, but it seems like too much of a reference to be a coincidence. When you say she takes the responsibility of eating the fruit herself, it might also reference the lyrics to that video of being a dependable person you can lean on in times of need. The choreography is also interesting to note being that it's a mirrored choreo, and although she was with Heejin in the video, Hyunjin is often seen as Cheorry's mirror. In some LoonaTVs they mentioned that they liked to play with the fact that Choerry and Hyunjin look similar or sisterly to each other, and in some very old Loonaverse predebut contents there are shuffle units where Choerry and Hyunjin explicitly switch places in their respective subunits. I do think Hyunjin's power has something to do with communication between the realms, but not being a traveler herself, unlike Choerry who seemed to be the only one with the power to do that pre-love4eva. (I could be wrong here, I am largely going off of memory lol) Maybe the flames a call to the Burn era? This video has me rewatching the teasers from that era and I noticed that in the teaser #3, Yeojin again has a group of people chasing her, but they're in student uniform and she stands still with her back facing the camera (like everyone else) allowing them to catch her. One of the themes of that teaser and So What is that we only see one side of the moon and never the back of it (from earth). I think the initial concept of So What was very straightforward, but they could be referencing it again in order to assign a more nuanced meaning when it comes to the duality of women. Like the video may be expanding on the grey area in-between the bright and dark side of the moon? Idk, your video has really inspired me to start theorizing myself. I think you're right about Hyeju being a rebel, but more of her being the leader of a rebellion, like her role in So What. I think every member of Loona is considered rebellious by the story themes, but Hyeju coming from a place where she had no courage and then becoming the person who is the first to throw the flame is quite interesting. Again, great video, and I can't wait to see more when the MV comes out!! Edited for typos and I apologize if some of this is very rambily, I'm just excited to see more Loona theory videos
Well I do feel like these older Mvs still have some importance in the current lore, Hyunjin having japan and the color yellow assigned to her for example does feel like it is still true! ^^ I agree a lot with you on the similarities and I feel like there really could be a connection to Choerry hidden in the MV! I still remember Hyunjin being in the Girl Front MV and being the one to point Choerry in the right direction. They always looked out for each other! And also the scene in the One&Only MV were Gowon is talking to her mirror self and then her shadow, this felt a lot like a reference to her talking to Hyunjin, so maybe Hyunjins power is to manifest in different realms to communicate with other members? (About Choerry being the only traveler, I would also like to add Jinsoul to this list, since she is seen in the egoist MV with her cherries and is the one that gives Hyeju her blood plum, and Kim lip since she (at least in her owl form) appears in the New MV, and both Kim lip and Jinsoul tricked Choerry into following them into middle earth. So they do all seem to have the power to go into different realms via the cherries that Jinsoul provides.) I had this theory that we are going back to the Burn / So What era and revisit the original vision of this era (since I do feel like the back side of the moon was something that was just copied by BBC for their own lore after JJ left), so if they really put in these references to Burn on purpose and the MV will really go back to this time... then I do hope that this will lead to an OT12 comeback were they finally get to show of their original vision! TT (always love seeing other Orbit start theorizing in the comments! You guys always come up with new interesting theories lol ^^) You're right about Hyeju! This also is reflected in their last MV with Girls Night were we see Hyeju being the one that tries to burn the alien ship down to the ground and her riding on her motorcycle in the MV seemed to imply to me that she maybe was the one that got away the furthest from the aliens (Vivi being the first one they find, since there is this scene of her with one of the aliens in the background, Gowon and Yeojin being the second and third to be found then Hyunjin who's car brakes down and lastly we see Hyeju on her motorcycle with a scratch on her nose.)🤔 I'm also really really exited for what's to come! ^^ (no worries on the typo front, I do a lot of rambling as well and sometimes I seem to not even be able to get my point across lol 😅)
I had a similar theory with them awakening her odd eyes to save Yeojin, it’s so good to hear an organised and more extended of that idea 🛐 Also OMG the siren thing took me by surprise bc I don’t like to hear music spoilers before the cb so I watch teasers on mute, is so creepy AAAA this cb is gonna be amazing
I'm not quite sure what you mean, but if you mean that letters to hongkong and everyday I need you are signs of Vivi and Jinsoul having a closer connection, then yeah I agree! ^^
fiquei pensando em porque no fim do teaser a YeoJin olha pro lado no final e a ViVi olha pra cima, e no portal aparecem mãos saindo dele e o olho de gato ....????? tantas coisas rsrsrsrsrs
arent artms + yves in eden and loossemble + chuu in earth? idk why there would be a new loonaverse map if artms has made it really obvious that theyre in eden
Well, since the members have talked a lot about having a "new lore", now that they are not active with Loona, I felt like creating a new map would make a lot of sense. So that instead of just copying the old Loonaverse they can create their own lore in their own little bubbles. After all we don't know were the members are at right now in their lore. Is ARTMS even in the same universe as Loossemble? (and if so, then probably ARTMS and Loossemble in Eden, Yves and Chuu in middle earth) ^^
@@florastel i see loossemble being in eden in ttyl era and yves maybe if all of the new mv is positioned in eden... chuu is more in earth in my opinion but possibly has the power to move dimensions. i might have to look ore into middle earth tho
Well, if you're a fan of Loona you might enjoy their first self titled Album “Loossemble” it has some really Loona esk songs “Colouring”, “Real World” & “Sensitive” and Songs like “Netopia” and “Strawberry Soda” became some of my and the fandom's favorite songs ever! ^^ Plus Strawberry Soda was made by Yves (another member of Loona) as a gift to her members (the Loossemble members) TT And on their second mini Album “One of a kind” I really enjoy the girl crush esk “Boomerang” and the bubbly “He said I said”! ^^ I can also recommend to you to listen to their Highlight Medley videos since they are snippets of the songs on their Albums, so it's a great way to get an overlook on the Albums and if you might like them or not. Have fun listening!
I am currently really busy, but I'm still working on the series so no worries! I will probably upload the timeline video next month and after that I will have to see what you guys want to see in the future! ^^
@@florastel no no no, I was actually gonna ask if you’re going to write about the So what and Why not story, did I speak too rude 😨, I’m so sorry in advance 😔
Yeah, typically I don't mention my interpretations in the newer videos, because I mentioned them so much already through my old videos. But I should think more about my new viewers instead of only my long time viewer! So in the future I will try to do so. ^^ But If you're interested in some of the details of the Loonaverse and my theories on them, I made this ABCs of Loona series were I explain everything in detail! There I also explain the meaning of Cheorry being mirrored / being on her head as well as why the chandelier is such an important symbol for Gowon. If you like you can check out the episode on the MV / member that you want to know more of!
hello! I relly liked your video, but please stop streaming loona songs on youtube, youtube copyrights the music even if the video in question is ''boycotted'', instead use google drive with all of the loona mv's in it..
I actually don't stream them! I recorded these videos once a few months ago to use for all of my videos and I deactivated the monetization function so that BBC can not get any money from my videos! ^^ But thank you so much for your concern
The Chandelier is a representation of the crown and the crown is the power to change
I remember that the crown has passed from hand to hand Yves to Go Won, and in the Hi High coreo Go Won passed the crown to ViVi
11:22 And HyunJin location is Japan 😮... and she is up side down like Choerry, they are mirrors of each other...
omg I can't wait for this new comeback and for the lore 😊
the scene where yeojin is running with the masked girls behind her actually kind of reminds me of in so what where all of the school girls run at yeojin and she throws the bag
Man I really wish Chuu and Yves could join them 😭 I love seeing them flourish as soloists but I miss seeing the girls together so much
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hyeju’s biker jacket reminded me of the girls’ night mv when she was on a motorcycle
don't forget butterfly era, she wore a leather jacket too and in so what mv, if im not mistaken, maybe thats her thing as the lone wolf member? idk
I'm pretty sure that Hyeju is the person Yeojin reaches out at 2:09 !!! At the last scene of the teaser when we see the 5 members together, as you mentioned, Hyeju is the one wearing a leather jacket and in the scene where they reach out for each other you can see how the person on the left is wearing a black jacket!
I don't know if it means too much but I find it interesting:) And, since Hyeju and Yeojin were both lost at the forest, maybe this could have some sort of connexion? In the Wildest case maybe is representing Hyeju helping Yeojin scape... I'm just super excited for the mv and album overall, it all looks fantastic 🥲❤️🩹❤️🩹❤️🩹 & great job in this video! Loved it as always ^^
Thank you so much! ^^
I really like your theory! It could make a lot of sense to put together the two "outsiders" of the group and connect their story. I honestly can't wait to find out what all of this is about! TT
hyunjin eating the flower and burning might also symbolize letting go of the past,since this is the first she’s activated her odd eye at all since choosing to go to earth with heejin instead of being with kim lip and jinsoul. lore wise she probably chose not to go the path of having powers and just live a normal life like we can kinda see in her solo mv, but she has to save yeojin. also the mirror probably has something to do with what she can do.
I can't HOLD MYSELF ANYMORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS MV MIGHT BE ONE OF THE BEST I HAVE EVER WATCHED 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍, by the way, how many times do you stream Game Theory 😏, don't worry I watched too so I understand your intention 😁. CAN'T WAIT FOR THE MV!!!!!!!
I was wondering if anyone would notice the game theory reference lol (I watch a lot of game theory videos while I'm drawing!
@@florastel have you watched any game theory video recently or been a fan for long??? I was recently
I have been a fan for years, one day I just wanted to know more about the five nights at freddy games and there is no way around the game theory videos lol ^^
How did you become a fan? ^^
@@florastel Poppy Playtime 😏😏, pretty simple, of course I don't play, I just watch, and when I first watched one of their theory videos about Poppy Playtime, I laughed the heck out of my throat 🤣🤣🤣🤣, they were so funny and surprisingly I always waited for their new theory about it all the time until now 😁, I do watch other game theories beside Poppy but Poppy 😎
4:19 I think the black orb references the girl's night mv with what we see in the end shooting yeojin with a laser and the consistent eyes throughout the mv
so i have theory
there are animals on the album cover for each member cat deer wolf butterfy
but for yeojin is a teddy bear stuffed toy not a real animal like other member
so Yeojin is still a frog so maybe she can tranform ? (it might have something to do with the forest)
thank u florestel i love YOU 💜
No problem!
In ARTMS Virtual Angel a girl is filming ARTMS so that mostly might be Yeojin but she can't interact with ARTMS but she can record them since she's in between worlds.
ugh i love your videos so much, please start looking into the lyrics during your theories as well!
I will try to do so in the future! (I'm just not that good at lyrical analysis lol) ^^
TTYL - talk to you later - is a continuation of the Girls' Night MV. In Girls' Night, only GoWon, HyunJin and ViVi were seen holding the phone. However in the TTYL teaser poster, HyeJu was the one holding the phone. Maybe this time, we will figure out who they are talking to.
I usually don’t listen to teasers cause I wanna save my first listen for the full thing but I just couldn’t resist when the my teaser came out. Now I’m going crazyyy
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not you getting hyunjin's odd eye theory omgg! i was so shocked with that mv moment cause to me it basically confirms the theory that hyunjin was originally from middle earth and was taken back to earth for some reason, then choerry was made to replace her (maybe the number three has something to do with stability in loonaverse? perhaps, the ODD moon could be a prophecy jinsoul and lip knew about?)
The flames is probably a reference to So What MV.
GoWon's shot under the chandelier reminds me of Not Friends MV
Me re watching this, waiting for the in depth ttyl theory video ❤
Well it's taking some time, but it will be good! ^^
@@florastel gooooo just take ur time, we are patiently waiting my friend, just do ur magic ✨ 🪄, super excited ✨✨✨✨🌠
WE'RE HERE
great video as usual!
Glad you enjoyed it! ^^
The MV is great
I love the video!
I wanted to mention that the flower Hyunjin is eating, being from Japan, reminds me of the 2JIN Predebut video for "I'll Be There" with yellow being her assigned color and Japan being her assigned country. I know lore that far back is likely outdated, but it seems like too much of a reference to be a coincidence. When you say she takes the responsibility of eating the fruit herself, it might also reference the lyrics to that video of being a dependable person you can lean on in times of need. The choreography is also interesting to note being that it's a mirrored choreo, and although she was with Heejin in the video, Hyunjin is often seen as Cheorry's mirror. In some LoonaTVs they mentioned that they liked to play with the fact that Choerry and Hyunjin look similar or sisterly to each other, and in some very old Loonaverse predebut contents there are shuffle units where Choerry and Hyunjin explicitly switch places in their respective subunits. I do think Hyunjin's power has something to do with communication between the realms, but not being a traveler herself, unlike Choerry who seemed to be the only one with the power to do that pre-love4eva. (I could be wrong here, I am largely going off of memory lol)
Maybe the flames a call to the Burn era? This video has me rewatching the teasers from that era and I noticed that in the teaser #3, Yeojin again has a group of people chasing her, but they're in student uniform and she stands still with her back facing the camera (like everyone else) allowing them to catch her. One of the themes of that teaser and So What is that we only see one side of the moon and never the back of it (from earth). I think the initial concept of So What was very straightforward, but they could be referencing it again in order to assign a more nuanced meaning when it comes to the duality of women. Like the video may be expanding on the grey area in-between the bright and dark side of the moon? Idk, your video has really inspired me to start theorizing myself.
I think you're right about Hyeju being a rebel, but more of her being the leader of a rebellion, like her role in So What. I think every member of Loona is considered rebellious by the story themes, but Hyeju coming from a place where she had no courage and then becoming the person who is the first to throw the flame is quite interesting. Again, great video, and I can't wait to see more when the MV comes out!!
Edited for typos and I apologize if some of this is very rambily, I'm just excited to see more Loona theory videos
Well I do feel like these older Mvs still have some importance in the current lore, Hyunjin having japan and the color yellow assigned to her for example does feel like it is still true! ^^
I agree a lot with you on the similarities and I feel like there really could be a connection to Choerry hidden in the MV! I still remember Hyunjin being in the Girl Front MV and being the one to point Choerry in the right direction. They always looked out for each other!
And also the scene in the One&Only MV were Gowon is talking to her mirror self and then her shadow, this felt a lot like a reference to her talking to Hyunjin, so maybe Hyunjins power is to manifest in different realms to communicate with other members?
(About Choerry being the only traveler, I would also like to add Jinsoul to this list, since she is seen in the egoist MV with her cherries and is the one that gives Hyeju her blood plum, and Kim lip since she (at least in her owl form) appears in the New MV, and both Kim lip and Jinsoul tricked Choerry into following them into middle earth. So they do all seem to have the power to go into different realms via the cherries that Jinsoul provides.)
I had this theory that we are going back to the Burn / So What era and revisit the original vision of this era (since I do feel like the back side of the moon was something that was just copied by BBC for their own lore after JJ left), so if they really put in these references to Burn on purpose and the MV will really go back to this time... then I do hope that this will lead to an OT12 comeback were they finally get to show of their original vision! TT
(always love seeing other Orbit start theorizing in the comments! You guys always come up with new interesting theories lol ^^)
You're right about Hyeju! This also is reflected in their last MV with Girls Night were we see Hyeju being the one that tries to burn the alien ship down to the ground and her riding on her motorcycle in the MV seemed to imply to me that she maybe was the one that got away the furthest from the aliens (Vivi being the first one they find, since there is this scene of her with one of the aliens in the background, Gowon and Yeojin being the second and third to be found then Hyunjin who's car brakes down and lastly we see Hyeju on her motorcycle with a scratch on her nose.)🤔
I'm also really really exited for what's to come! ^^
(no worries on the typo front, I do a lot of rambling as well and sometimes I seem to not even be able to get my point across lol 😅)
i really really lovee your videos, tysm for doing those analysis. even if i dont speak english i can understand everything you are saying!
Thank you so much!
I had a similar theory with them awakening her odd eyes to save Yeojin, it’s so good to hear an organised and more extended of that idea 🛐 Also OMG the siren thing took me by surprise bc I don’t like to hear music spoilers before the cb so I watch teasers on mute, is so creepy AAAA this cb is gonna be amazing
Haha, yeah when I first heard the siren thing I was freaked out as well since it came out of nowhere! ^^
3:20 THEY DO actually, remember letters to hongkong AND everyday i need you?
I'm not quite sure what you mean, but if you mean that letters to hongkong and everyday I need you are signs of Vivi and Jinsoul having a closer connection, then yeah I agree! ^^
7:29 damn upside down HyunJin looks like vivi. And btw this is a clear reference to choerry who is always upside down because choerry is a bat
fiquei pensando em porque no fim do teaser a YeoJin olha pro lado no final e a ViVi olha pra cima, e no portal aparecem mãos saindo dele e o olho de gato ....????? tantas coisas rsrsrsrsrs
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arent artms + yves in eden and loossemble + chuu in earth? idk why there would be a new loonaverse map if artms has made it really obvious that theyre in eden
Well, since the members have talked a lot about having a "new lore", now that they are not active with Loona, I felt like creating a new map would make a lot of sense.
So that instead of just copying the old Loonaverse they can create their own lore in their own little bubbles.
After all we don't know were the members are at right now in their lore. Is ARTMS even in the same universe as Loossemble? (and if so, then probably ARTMS and Loossemble in Eden, Yves and Chuu in middle earth) ^^
@@florastel i see loossemble being in eden in ttyl era and yves maybe if all of the new mv is positioned in eden... chuu is more in earth in my opinion but possibly has the power to move dimensions. i might have to look ore into middle earth tho
The orb is bbc, or the old loona
interesting theory! ^^
Can yall recommend me some lossemble song? I wanna get into them
Well, if you're a fan of Loona you might enjoy their first self titled Album “Loossemble” it has some really Loona esk songs “Colouring”, “Real World” & “Sensitive” and Songs like “Netopia” and “Strawberry Soda” became some of my and the fandom's favorite songs ever! ^^
Plus Strawberry Soda was made by Yves (another member of Loona) as a gift to her members (the Loossemble members) TT
And on their second mini Album “One of a kind” I really enjoy the girl crush esk “Boomerang” and the bubbly “He said I said”! ^^
I can also recommend to you to listen to their Highlight Medley videos since they are snippets of the songs on their Albums, so it's a great way to get an overlook on the Albums and if you might like them or not. Have fun listening!
When you will continue with Loona ABC's?
I am currently really busy, but I'm still working on the series so no worries! I will probably upload the timeline video next month and after that I will have to see what you guys want to see in the future! ^^
@@florastel so what and why not????
@@NguyenOanh0112 This will take some more time as I haven't started writing the script yet. TT
@@florastel no no no, I was actually gonna ask if you’re going to write about the So what and Why not story, did I speak too rude 😨, I’m so sorry in advance 😔
@@NguyenOanh0112 No problem at all! ^^
You point out a lot of references but it would be great if you thought about the meaning of them a little bit more. ❤ great video anyways
Yeah, typically I don't mention my interpretations in the newer videos, because I mentioned them so much already through my old videos. But I should think more about my new viewers instead of only my long time viewer! So in the future I will try to do so. ^^
But If you're interested in some of the details of the Loonaverse and my theories on them, I made this ABCs of Loona series were I explain everything in detail! There I also explain the meaning of Cheorry being mirrored / being on her head as well as why the chandelier is such an important symbol for Gowon. If you like you can check out the episode on the MV / member that you want to know more of!
hello! I relly liked your video, but please stop streaming loona songs on youtube, youtube copyrights the music even if the video in question is ''boycotted'', instead use google drive with all of the loona mv's in it..
I actually don't stream them! I recorded these videos once a few months ago to use for all of my videos and I deactivated the monetization function so that BBC can not get any money from my videos! ^^
But thank you so much for your concern