Dr. J used to do that same move back during his peak years, but now I see which player he actually copped it from to begin with (lol). Think I also saw Big Game James (Worthy) pull a similar one off against the Celtics in the '87 NBA Finals, but yeah you don't see that kind of stuff in today's game anymore...
@@trapezemusicthe NBA wrongly kept Hawk out for years. It's why he played for the Globetrotters and then the ABA. Connie finally got representation, won the lawsuit and was allowed to play in the NBA. As he likely should have been all along. 🏀
The Pipers took off when they traded for Art Heyman. How do I know this? I was 11 years old and went to their games. I use to go down to court level and bounce a ball during the game.
@@carlkolchak4437 yes Art Heyman rejuvinated his career and helped the Pipers win that title, he was fantastic just like he was at Duke! Another great player on that team was Charlie Williams... The Pipers had 4 starters getting 20+ points per game, 4!! That's pretty incredible for that era.
I believe Charlie Williams is still alive but the other Piper starters: Art Heyman, Chico Vaughn, Tom “Trooper” Washington and my fav Cornelius “Connie” Hawkins have all sadly passed away.
The reason the Pipers left after their inaugural, championship, season is that the ABA league office was in Minneapolis ... to placate ABA commissioner George Mikan, who lived there. Minnesota had a team that first year, called the Muskies, but they did not draw well and so they moved to Miami to become the Floridians. The ABA thought it would look bad if Minnesota didn't have a franchise and so they relocated the Pipers, hoping that the Minnesota fans would come out in droves to support them. Unfortunately, Connie Hawkins got injured mid-season and the Minnesota Pipers failed to garner any support. The Pipers moved back to Pittsburgh for the 3rd ABA season (1969-70), but like Dvorchak said, the fans felt betrayed and never supported this franchise again. They changed their name to the Condors for the 1970-71 season but then folded after the 1971-72 season. In all likelihood, Hawkins would have eventually jumped to the NBA, but I think it's entirely possible that the Pipers could have been every bit as successful as the Pacers, Colonels, Stars, Nets, Nuggets and Spurs in terms of fan support. The ABA really blew it by forcing the relocation of the Pipers. And as a final kick in the gut, Mikan resigned as ABA commissioner after the second season (1968-69). It really was a total waste to move the Pipers to Minnesota for ABA league optics.
Didn't some fans still support the team when they went to Minnesota and then came back again? I know I would have at least...But I can understand the betrayal aspect...Thing is it wasn't really the players fault themselves...just management...
@@HiNRGboy I'm sure some fans were excited to get the team back. But Connie Hawkins did not return. He jumped to the NBA for the 1969-70 season. Only a few players from that championship team remained and they were not competitive for their final three years. You are right about it not being the fault of the players and I'm not so sure it was even the Pipers management that is to blame. It really was more of a league decision to relocate them to Minnesota. It just shows how fickle fate can be. It is quite possible that, had they never left, the Pipers would have been one of the most stable franchises in the ABA and, perhaps, would have been one of the four clubs that merged with the NBA.
Pittsburgh deserves to have another pro-basketball franchise again, same goes for St. Louis (Spirits) and especially Kentucky (Colonels). Don't care if they come back as the Pipers, Condors, or even the original Ironmen of the BAA, city shouldn't be left out in the cold for as long as they've been.
I don't live far from Pittsburgh, and that would be my favorite city for basketball if an NBA team came back there! I don't really have a favorite modern team right now.. I love the basketball history of that city though, especially of course with the Pipers winning the first ABA title!
Many people believe that the ABA came up with the 3 pt shot. Not true at all. The ABL, (a league that The Hawk played in Pittsburgh Rens) came up with the intro of the pt play.
Pittsburgh just recently not too long ago put up a tons of money to how to get an NBA team. If they do become the 3rd city to get a team they should be renamed the condors and colors are black, golden yellow, grey and white.
Connie Hawkins move at 2:06 was a thing of beauty and grace. I love to see one of today's players try that. Doubt anyone could.
It was a great and unique move. As a young and original ABA fan I was angry when the NBA stole our best player.
Dr. J used to do that same move back during his peak years, but now I see which player he actually copped it from to begin with (lol). Think I also saw Big Game James (Worthy) pull a similar one off against the Celtics in the '87 NBA Finals, but yeah you don't see that kind of stuff in today's game anymore...
We need back pitsburgh condors
@@trapezemusicthe NBA wrongly kept Hawk out for years. It's why he played for the Globetrotters and then the ABA. Connie finally got representation, won the lawsuit and was allowed to play in the NBA. As he likely should have been all along. 🏀
I also think the NBA softened its stance against Hawkins because they wanted to rob the ABA of its best player at the time.@@Amick44
pittsburgh deserves nba team.i hope that pittsburgh will have nba team soon,and off course the name of condors
good color red with big condor and blue jersey with condor ,,, maybe in the future nba team pitsburgh condors.
The Pittsburgh Pipers (Condors) lasted between 1967-68,1969-72, but won the maiden ABA Championship in 1968, behind Connie Hawkins and Chico Vaughn.
The Pipers took off when they traded for Art Heyman. How do I know this? I was 11 years old and went to their games. I use to go down to court level and bounce a ball during the game.
@@carlkolchak4437 yes Art Heyman rejuvinated his career and helped the Pipers win that title, he was fantastic just like he was at Duke! Another great player on that team was Charlie Williams... The Pipers had 4 starters getting 20+ points per game, 4!! That's pretty incredible for that era.
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I believe Charlie Williams is still alive but the other Piper starters: Art Heyman, Chico Vaughn, Tom “Trooper” Washington and my fav Cornelius “Connie” Hawkins have all sadly passed away.
Excellent commentator.
I want an NBA team in Pittsburgh SOON
We need new arena and fans who want support nba team
The reason the Pipers left after their inaugural, championship, season is that the ABA league office was in Minneapolis ... to placate ABA commissioner George Mikan, who lived there. Minnesota had a team that first year, called the Muskies, but they did not draw well and so they moved to Miami to become the Floridians. The ABA thought it would look bad if Minnesota didn't have a franchise and so they relocated the Pipers, hoping that the Minnesota fans would come out in droves to support them. Unfortunately, Connie Hawkins got injured mid-season and the Minnesota Pipers failed to garner any support. The Pipers moved back to Pittsburgh for the 3rd ABA season (1969-70), but like Dvorchak said, the fans felt betrayed and never supported this franchise again. They changed their name to the Condors for the 1970-71 season but then folded after the 1971-72 season.
In all likelihood, Hawkins would have eventually jumped to the NBA, but I think it's entirely possible that the Pipers could have been every bit as successful as the Pacers, Colonels, Stars, Nets, Nuggets and Spurs in terms of fan support. The ABA really blew it by forcing the relocation of the Pipers. And as a final kick in the gut, Mikan resigned as ABA commissioner after the second season (1968-69). It really was a total waste to move the Pipers to Minnesota for ABA league optics.
Didn't some fans still support the team when they went to Minnesota and then came back again? I know I would have at least...But I can understand the betrayal aspect...Thing is it wasn't really the players fault themselves...just management...
@@HiNRGboy I'm sure some fans were excited to get the team back. But Connie Hawkins did not return. He jumped to the NBA for the 1969-70 season. Only a few players from that championship team remained and they were not competitive for their final three years.
You are right about it not being the fault of the players and I'm not so sure it was even the Pipers management that is to blame. It really was more of a league decision to relocate them to Minnesota.
It just shows how fickle fate can be. It is quite possible that, had they never left, the Pipers would have been one of the most stable franchises in the ABA and, perhaps, would have been one of the four clubs that merged with the NBA.
@@Zobin211 funny that Minnesota has a team but Pittsburgh hasn't since the Condors..
Fans must support team in pittsburgh brisker banditos
Can never get tired of that 0:04 0:04
Pittsburgh deserves to have another pro-basketball franchise again, same goes for St. Louis (Spirits) and especially Kentucky (Colonels). Don't care if they come back as the Pipers, Condors, or even the original Ironmen of the BAA, city shouldn't be left out in the cold for as long as they've been.
I don't live far from Pittsburgh, and that would be my favorite city for basketball if an NBA team came back there! I don't really have a favorite modern team right now.. I love the basketball history of that city though, especially of course with the Pipers winning the first ABA title!
I want that nba back condors in pitsburgh yes and st louis colonels too old aba .condors folded 1972
If Pittsburgh gets an NBA team it should be black and yellow like their other sports teams
No they should be white with red condor
Bring the Condors.
Yess👍
Many people believe that the ABA came up with the 3 pt shot. Not true at all. The ABL, (a league that The Hawk played in Pittsburgh Rens) came up with the intro of the pt play.
i was 11 when my pipers won it all and then inexplicably left. yes, i felt betrayed. would not even read anything about the condors.
Dear lord let there be Pittsburgh have another NBA team soon
It was never an nba team...it was in the ABA
Yes only in aba
Anaheim Amigos!
Yess awesome name i wa nt that team back as well
Pittsburgh just recently not too long ago put up a tons of money to how to get an NBA team. If they do become the 3rd city to get a team they should be renamed the condors and colors are black, golden yellow, grey and white.
I want an NBA team in Pittsburgh SOON