Tbh honest I don't think fretless basses should be used only sometimes. Look at all these bassists playing upright for everything lately! Really, it's your instrument of choice, your own unique voice, and your own music - nobody else has the right to tell you what you can or can't play! If some folks don't like it, their loss then. Of course, if you're a session bassist and you were specifically asked to use a standard fretted bass then you should switch. But if you're playing your own music then just be yourself and play your instrument of choice. Find your own unique voice - you don't always have to do that bridge pickup Jaco sound. Don't limit yourself to just one overplayed tone. Look at great bassists, for example Esperanza Spalding and Steve Bailey. They use the fretless primarily and yet they have their own distinct sound! If you don't hop on the Jaco tone bandwagon you can find lots of ways and tones to play fretless basses with. At the end of the day its just an instrument like any other. In jazz it's democracy and freedom of artistic expression - play whatever you want, to say whatever you want through your instrument. Screw the haters. Always gonna be haters whatever you play anyway.
This actually appears to be an AC model. The single bridge pickup while still having three top knobs is a dead giveaway. There’s a piezo in there. The lower horn is also waaay farther back on the AC, as seen here.
Okay! As a classical voice therapist, I want to share this with bassists and guitarists that would 'dare' music: the healthy human vibrato is 7 beats/second. 'That' goal is pursued by string and wind players to emulate the voice because...all other speeds, faster or slower, seem...comical to our ear. Further...vibrato is 'meant' only to be brought in at the 'end' of only those notes that are long enough to justify coloring it with 'effect' to retain the interest of the ear. But as the voice 'ages', vibrato becomes an...affliction that sadly can no longer be selectively turned on and off. The habit is usually increased by an increase in both depth and speed until you are become either Edith Piaf, or late vintage Johnny Mathis, or worse...every opera singer come close to the end of their 'good' service to the music they sing. They get a pass because of who they 'were'! Hear is a famous example (chosen because of its familiarity) of Whitney Houston doing it right (she also uses tremolo)! Note that their is no vibrato employed until well after a long note has been established. Vibrato is 'not' imposed, it is 'allowed and released as a device to avoid 'drone' on long notes. P.S. String players use 'constant' vibrato to a different purpose, which is to encourage harmonic richness, and confuse the ear as to tuning when playing in sections, but you'll note that it creates the agitated, nervous quality that most 'non' classical music lovers find irritating about violin. Don't repeat their mistake. quickly.httpruclips.net/video/3JWTaaS7LdU/видео.htmlsi=eOLPPyC_SjiVP9NC&t=43
yes and no... yes if you have long fingers cause f bass have a lot of space between each strings. Its all a matter of taste... but hell they sound great . If we consider the sound yes I agree with ur opinion
Sorry, i'm not a bass player ... But i know jaco used a technic called "moawing" for his vibrato. Were he using a pedal too, like hadrien does ? Or you don't need this if you have a fretless bass ?
Thing that no-one's pointed out here is that Jaco (as far as I know) got the vibrato from his fingers, and Hadrien seems to be doing a pretty good job of doing the same thing here most of the time. So... why use the vibrato?
He also got his vibrato from the way he set up his gear. He had two amps, one had a tremolo setting and the other one was off. The sound coming out of the two cabs was what created the chorusing effect. Jaco was amazing at creating techniques back then that pedals now do today, like setting a delay pedal all the way open and creating a looper.
Perhaps because he wanted to have the effect on his fretted basses as well? Sometimes your note runs are at a speed where you'd like a little vibrato, but just a little too fast to do it with your fingers on a fretted bass.
Jaco used an MXR 113 Digital Delay and set his delay range at 5 milliseconds with his sweep at 25% width and 75% frequency and his mix & delay time potentiometers at full blast with the regenerator completely cut out. Those were his exact settings for his vibrato. Along with using his fingers for added effect.
round wound strings, high-ish action, bridge pickup only engaged, playing towards the last few frets of the bass rather than the plucking area. it’s better if the basses neck isn’t laqquered
That would be impressive if it was true. You can really hear the effect quality when Hadrien or Jaco hits natural harmonics. Even if you can vibrato the headstock like Stanley Clarke it's not the same.
HADRIENFeraud Not only I would get sick of that sound - anyone would. What I meant was it needs to be used sparingly, as you said. If you can't stand criticism, why are you posting your fucking videos in a fucking public fucking forum? For everyone to tell you how fucking wonderful you are? ... and oh also ... fucking fuck you.
+jbooks888 if you think this sound sucks its your opinion, seriously dude who and what the fuck dyou think you are... Like" well since I dont like it everyone wont either.." .. Tc electronic posted, not me. Now keep in mind you re comenting on a video "I" am featured on , so you dont get to tell me to fuck off, OR, if you re coming to namm you go to markbass amps booth and say it to my face and see for yourself how it goes afterwards. Or just remain an internet troll. Thats on you.
Relatively interesting video with the exception that you're using electronics to emulate what was once done without it; so that part I don't understand. Why not educate the player about achieving the tone/vibrato with the instrument instead?
![Hadrien Feraud & Federico Malaman - Tina Turner We don't need another hero [Bass cover]](/img/1.gif)
Tbh honest I don't think fretless basses should be used only sometimes. Look at all these bassists playing upright for everything lately! Really, it's your instrument of choice, your own unique voice, and your own music - nobody else has the right to tell you what you can or can't play! If some folks don't like it, their loss then. Of course, if you're a session bassist and you were specifically asked to use a standard fretted bass then you should switch. But if you're playing your own music then just be yourself and play your instrument of choice. Find your own unique voice - you don't always have to do that bridge pickup Jaco sound. Don't limit yourself to just one overplayed tone. Look at great bassists, for example Esperanza Spalding and Steve Bailey. They use the fretless primarily and yet they have their own distinct sound! If you don't hop on the Jaco tone bandwagon you can find lots of ways and tones to play fretless basses with. At the end of the day its just an instrument like any other. In jazz it's democracy and freedom of artistic expression - play whatever you want, to say whatever you want through your instrument. Screw the haters. Always gonna be haters whatever you play anyway.
This guy could play through anything and make you want it!
Super musical demo Hadrien! Lovely phrasing and tone.
I still believe that F bass makes the finest fretless on earth. The AC series, particularly, but this BN series is very good.
This actually appears to be an AC model. The single bridge pickup while still having three top knobs is a dead giveaway. There’s a piezo in there.
The lower horn is also waaay farther back on the AC, as seen here.
F bass!! From my hometown Hamilton Ontario!!
The thing that amazes me with Jaco's sound is the power, it just envelops everything.
that chord progression at 3:55 is just too beutiful, any one know what hes playing please?
Hadrien Feraud don't know yet that his first psychofan just arised...
Okay! As a classical voice therapist, I want to share this with bassists and guitarists that would 'dare' music: the healthy human vibrato is 7 beats/second. 'That' goal is pursued by string and wind players to emulate the voice because...all other speeds, faster or slower, seem...comical to our ear.
Further...vibrato is 'meant' only to be brought in at the 'end' of only those notes that are long enough to justify coloring it with 'effect' to retain the interest of the ear. But as the voice 'ages', vibrato becomes an...affliction that sadly can no longer be selectively turned on and off.
The habit is usually increased by an increase in both depth and speed until you are become either Edith Piaf, or late vintage Johnny Mathis, or worse...every opera singer come close to the end of their 'good' service to the music they sing. They get a pass because of who they 'were'!
Hear is a famous example (chosen because of its familiarity) of Whitney Houston doing it right (she also uses tremolo)! Note that their is no vibrato employed until well after a long note has been established. Vibrato is 'not' imposed, it is 'allowed and released as a device to avoid 'drone' on long notes.
P.S. String players use 'constant' vibrato to a different purpose, which is to encourage harmonic richness, and confuse the ear as to tuning when playing in sections, but you'll note that it creates the agitated, nervous quality that most 'non' classical music lovers find irritating about violin. Don't repeat their mistake.
quickly.httpruclips.net/video/3JWTaaS7LdU/видео.htmlsi=eOLPPyC_SjiVP9NC&t=43
Bravissimo! Ma non mi hai ancora emozionato.
Jürgen Attig "Journey To Jaco" Official Video (Bass Solo)
This guy comes closest in my opinion
FBass probably makes the best fretless money can buy. The AC models particularly are basically perfect. The BNs not so much.
yes and no... yes if you have long fingers cause f bass have a lot of space between each strings. Its all a matter of taste... but hell they sound great . If we consider the sound yes I agree with ur opinion
ほんとうまいな
Anybody know any albums/videos where he plays this bass with this osunds, it sounds sooo awesome.
my thoughts too, did you ever get an answer?
ruclips.net/video/Lo9OflUF2M8/видео.html
Sorry, i'm not a bass player ...
But i know jaco used a technic called "moawing" for his vibrato.
Were he using a pedal too, like hadrien does ? Or you don't need this if you have a fretless bass ?
great playing , The vibrato sounds pretty good as well , I play & wondering if there's a recording of the piano music available?
Check out Birelli's little feature in the middle of this video
Bireli Lagrene Live in Paris Jaco time !
Hadrien's English has gotten much better since I first heard him. Awesome bassist! Love his sound and technique.
I want a fretless just to pair with my vibrato pedal.
What particular pedal or pedals give him that vibrato sound?
Am I the only one who haven't heard a single note of the guitar player ?
Charles Altura on guitar (just one or two seconds)?
3:56
This chord progression lives in my mind rent free 24/7, love it!
Thing that no-one's pointed out here is that Jaco (as far as I know) got the vibrato from his fingers, and Hadrien seems to be doing a pretty good job of doing the same thing here most of the time. So... why use the vibrato?
He also got his vibrato from the way he set up his gear. He had two amps, one had a tremolo setting and the other one was off. The sound coming out of the two cabs was what created the chorusing effect. Jaco was amazing at creating techniques back then that pedals now do today, like setting a delay pedal all the way open and creating a looper.
Perhaps because he wanted to have the effect on his fretted basses as well? Sometimes your note runs are at a speed where you'd like a little vibrato, but just a little too fast to do it with your fingers on a fretted bass.
Good point.
Like said before Jaco not only got vibrato from his hands but also his amp
Jaco used an MXR 113 Digital Delay and set his delay range at 5 milliseconds with his sweep at 25% width and 75% frequency and his mix & delay time potentiometers at full blast with the regenerator completely cut out. Those were his exact settings for his vibrato. Along with using his fingers for added effect.
Is there a way to use this with an expression pedal to adjust the rate?
Cat's nasty =)
Its the same of the guitar right?????
Don't you consider an amplifier an electronic box?
Mmm Dolphin Dance ...
nope. you are incorrect sir.
that is killer fretless tone and i don't say that lightly nor am i always one for boutiques
fretless tone is all in good touch i might add
Sick tone!!!
No.... I'm correct
mmm… tasty bass!
lol andy
Love it...!!!
How does he get that Jaco sound, what is the secret?
Hard work
round wound strings, high-ish action, bridge pickup only engaged, playing towards the last few frets of the bass rather than the plucking area. it’s better if the basses neck isn’t laqquered
Vibrato from a machine? No thanks, I can do that with my hands.
That would be impressive if it was true. You can really hear the effect quality when Hadrien or Jaco hits natural harmonics. Even if you can vibrato the headstock like Stanley Clarke it's not the same.
Timothy Powell lol...
+Timothy Powell If Jaco Pastorius was using one, you go buy one now too. That's what you do. TSHT! don't talk.
HADRIENFeraud
I'd buy something just because Jaco was using it? Nope, guess again. If I did stuff like that, I'd run out and buy a knit hat.
+Timothy Powell go buy a life then lol..ah nah..that you can't..sorry
The kind of sound one would get sick of very quickly.
sure , that's why it's meant to be used only "sometimes" ....and oh also..: who cares about you getting sick of it...lol
+HADRIENFeraud The 'Videos' section of your fake Hadrien account is an amazing selection of Hadrien clips and oiled bodybuilders, great work
HADRIENFeraud Not only I would get sick of that sound - anyone would. What I meant was it needs to be used sparingly, as you said. If you can't stand criticism, why are you posting your fucking videos in a fucking public fucking forum? For everyone to tell you how fucking wonderful you are? ... and oh also ... fucking fuck you.
+jbooks888 if you think this sound sucks its your opinion, seriously dude who and what the fuck dyou think you are... Like" well since I dont like it everyone wont either.." .. Tc electronic posted, not me. Now keep in mind you re comenting on a video "I" am featured on , so you dont get to tell me to fuck off, OR, if you re coming to namm you go to markbass amps booth and say it to my face and see for yourself how it goes afterwards. Or just remain an internet troll. Thats on you.
HADRIENFeraud !
Relatively interesting video with the exception that you're using electronics to emulate what was once done without it; so that part I don't understand. Why not educate the player about achieving the tone/vibrato with the instrument instead?
I'll never understand why people think it's cool to wear a beanie on the back of their head, or wear one at all indoors.
Yeah not a good look
Terrible sound