Hello, I live in Brazil and I don't know English. I'm writing this using Google Translate. I would like to know if in this video he is proving, through calculations, the absence of curvature?
Hello, I live in Brazil and I don't know English. I'm writing this using Google Translate. I would like to know if in this video he is proving, through calculations, the absence of curvature?
@@euzebio2343no he says that there is some curvature but much less than previously told, which means that the earth must be a lot larger. But the problem with that is that the entire Helios model will be destroyed in that case since everything in it is calculated on top of this diameter. So if the calcs turn out correct and effective it’s proof for what many already have observed, that we do not live on a spinning ball with this size.
Nope. What you should note is that the curve is *still* the way we told you, despite refraction working against it. And you should do a simple precision check, those lens and sensor numbers shown aren't precise.
BRILLIANT I will be waiting. I have flown 1000s of times and I knew I was seeing landmarks over 3000 miles away and I knew the Earth's radius was much larger than 3900 miles
"I have flown 1000s of times and I knew I was seeing landmarks over 3000 miles" Brilliant. 🌟🌟🌟 When we start to piece together each anomaly, one by one, like the one above: Sum of all known anomalies = Σ anomalies 1 to n., Such a collage paints a picture that is refreshingly NEW. BTW which landmark did you see 3000 miles away?
I must admit that around a year ago you blew my mind after three or four years of, more than trusting and digesting nearly everything that you presented, and then there seemed to be a disconnect. It’s very nice to see you back on line and I pray that you will continue to add your brilliance and skillful observation along with your dedication to scientific observation as we spiral through this ever twisting web of lies.
@@Staridido1 …quite possibly but matters not to me in this case, as I have had many frens overs the years from different religions and practices and will always convey best wishes in their celebrations…not sure of the point here, other than maybe trying to educate me…I can always use some, though in this case I have heard many arguments throughout my life that point to this fact ..me personally had gotten disgruntled with the celebration at 6-7yrs old and did not celebrate the holiday by 14yrs old but in no way would I ever discourage, nor deny one’s choice to celebrate a belief…as for the quite possible, it remains that information has become so convoluted and sometimes downright perverted that one claiming knowledge of such a thing could just as easily quite possibly be wrong(I would refer to records of many different cultures adding and subtracting from such, rendering what we see today)…if your point is your own feeling of discomfort in it, well many (even those that practice it), feel such… take your time fren
I had to watch again . 5000 miles, what...? Amazing ...! In your comments you said the Chinese and USGS are finding the same calculations? This is truly wonderful. Thank you for your hard work...! 😊
Simply brilliant, Sir! Absolutely enjoy your distinctive presentation style and voice. Really looking forward to more earth plane evidence from you, JT!
Wow. Great work. I’ll never forget meeting you in Vegas. Maybe my favorite part of the trip. I knew it was you when you asked me if was a flat earther down in the casino😁. Would you believe your voice instantly tipped me off? 😂 I had the pleasure of escorting you to the crew. Very fun for me. Thanks for all you do!
Hello, I live in Brazil and I don't know English. I'm writing this using Google Translate. I would like to know if in this video he is proving, through calculations, the absence of curvature?
You could use the pyramid in Memphis as a distance target. I hear its reflective enough to see from the sky. And its distinctive enough to not get confused for anything else. I only saw one of those circles with it inside. You could have it in a few frames and not know it.
the curve might be an artifact of the different layers the light passes through prior to getting to the pixel sensor .....(which has optical optimized layer of glass) but the curve of the lens pressure difference of the air in the plane and outside the plain and composition of the air, and the plane window are all interfering with the path of the light (plane window being very sketchy due to the different layers and bad optical property quality) but then again, 1 million miles compared to the globe radius ... you would say EARTH the area we know and mapped is then pretty flat (as in a comparative measurement from globe earth assumption to "flat earth measurement) .... an other thing is that the area you sampled is over land, and we know land has shape, surface change ... but i think on this scale that does not really matter any more :D
yeah, its a complicated problem, window, air refraction, surface variation, etc.. initially I was going to do a statistical analysis and show the curvature with high confidence, then my mind was blown by how far we're seeing, based on the slight shift close to the horizon. The FFT phase cross-correlation is incredible, I never would have accurately determined the effects close to the horizon by manually analyzing the images, like I've done in one of my previous videos. I checked with the USGA and they use IR lidar sensors, and not even they can determine the curvature, they say the data they have is "elevations above the ellipsoid" the magical imaginary ellipsoid. Nasa doesn't help, in fact I'm accusing them of purposefully using fisheye lenses to hide the truth. Nothing wrong with using fisheye lenses for a wide perspective, but they are covering up the truth. The Chinese released incredible flat surface imagery with new lenses, panorama lenses. Truth can not be hidden much longer. The space age has brough about a new understanding of the surface of the earth.
@@jtolanmedia1 There's no mystery about the shape of the Earth. You can use any GPS equipment that outputs raw ECEF coordinates. Most high-end stuff is accurate to about 2cm vertical accuracy. I like some of your stuff but flat Earth is truly one of the lamest conspiracy theories.
@@jtolanmedia1 So you know when someone says "I´m like a MILLION miles away"... well... there ya go. Science! ,-) Anyhow, fun fact, thing about the human body and plane windows, the european spine f.ex, has a difference in +10/-10 cm approx. between each person, hence when you sit on a plane, or bus, though never in the cinema for some reason, or concerts come to think of it, most peoples heads line up, although if they all stood up, the height differences would be as per usual. So, we all sit next to the window and look downwards through a concave window, and if you bend your neck to get a better "straight" view of the horizon, you will usually be looking through the top of the window giving you insta curve due to the window shape which I´m sure you´ve worked out when filming yourself. So, a child will be looking out the middle of the window where it will see a flat, level surface by default if it looks straight towards the horizon. Reverse Santa basically. This one hits harder for most though... "So who WAS the Globe then?" *cries*. Over and out. Lev Vel PS! The spine thing is best illustrated with (a member of the opposite) sex. Line up the top of your hips standing next to each other, you or the other person will have to bend the knees to level with the other person, look into their eyes when hips are same height and say: "Hip to Hip, Eye to Eye". Works every time, 69% of the time. Merry Yuletide
That's his "tag line" or whatever it's called... But the Earth having a radius of 100K up to a million kilometers is pretty incredible... Or it's just flat, which is the basket I choose to put my egg in...
@@MK-cw4gw You might wanna watch the vid some The Flat Earth Warriorz. There isnt a 24h sun down there as the footage from before this whole charade took place shows it set. But what is interesting is how they did it, worth the watch :) Oh and mooktoon has tiny lil legs lmao
sure, were extracting information from two images that contain parallax. i.e. objects closer to us move through a larger observed angle, then object farther in the distance, and this horizontal shift can be converted into distance. So the code determines the horizontal shift, in very thin slices, all the way out to the horizon. Then these slant radial distances are converted to horizontal and vertical distance. H distance from under the aircraft, and vertical distance below the horizon line, (using R* sin(el) and R*cos(el), where el is the elevation angle, determined from vertical pixel index where the slices were processed), and that's it in a nut shell.
This is a fine algorithm, but you should probably base your unit conversion on data with slightly more precision than 2 digits (like those brochure numbers for lens and sensor data). Take video in the same format (that includes focused on infinity) of an entire revolution, perhaps in an open field or on a high hill, and assemble a panorama with something like Hugin or PanoTools. This should let you calibrate the lens data for your device. Gyroflow can also do a quick calibration using a monitor.
I think our next step is to somehow get into the astronomy observatories and use their telescopes for long distance observations… I had a conversation with a PhD astronomer in Hawaii who said they could see candle light from California observatories… They do it in both directions..Mauna Kea to California.. The required 450 miles of curving drop is not there…
1. Geographic Analysis 1.1. Claim that Earth is "incredibly flat.": This claim contradicts overwhelming geographic and geodetic evidence accumulated over centuries, demonstrating that Earth is an oblate spheroid (slightly flattened at the poles). Direct observations from space, GPS measurements, and global topographic studies confirm this shape. 1.2. Use of aerial and infrared images: While aerial images may appear flat due to scale and limited perspective from an airplane, this does not invalidate Earth's curvature. Geographical methods rely on more robust systems like satellite measurements to determine Earth's shape accurately. 2. Physical Analysis 2.1. Parallax and light refraction: The video acknowledges that refraction affects visual perception, which is accurate. However, it uses this phenomenon to argue that Earth is "flat." Refraction can slightly curve the light’s path but does not negate Earth’s curvature; it is, in fact, factored into advanced geodetic calculations. 1.2. The claim that infrared images eliminate refraction effects is incorrect, as refraction affects all wavelengths, albeit less for longer ones. This is insufficient to invalidate established models. Estimation of curvature at "a million miles.": This calculation contradicts all known physics about Earth's radius, which is approximately 6,371 km (3,959 miles). Assuming such a vast curvature is physically untenable and lacks experimental support. 3. Geometric Analysis 3.1. Use of computer vision algorithms. The approach of slicing images and performing cross-correlation is technically valid for measuring relative displacements in images but has limitations: Without precise calibration of the optical system (pixel size, focal length, camera tilt), the measurements lack accuracy. 3.2. Cross-correlation only measures apparent displacements and does not directly translate to the global geometric shape. Conclusion on curvature based on cloud images: Clouds are dynamic and variable structures that are not representative of Earth's curvature. Using them as a reference is methodologically incorrect. General Conclusion: The claims in the video do not withstand critical analysis from geographic, physical, or geometric perspectives. The observations presented seem to be based on a misinterpretation of the data and methods employed. Geodetic science has conclusively demonstrated that Earth has a defined curvature consistent with an oblate spheroid. The alleged "evidence" of flatness mentioned in the video is not supported by reliable data or the current understanding of the physical and geometric phenomena involved.
Brillantes tus aportes amigo Feliz Navidad From Uruguay!!! South América ó dónde sea que estemos. Aquí otra terraplanista solo acepto pruebas y tú las das Ya no repito como loro lo que la ciencia dice sin fundamentos
oh, I haven't heard, I haven't watched other FE videos in years, science is fluid, as more evidence comes in we need to evaluate and shift, and we may even shift back and forth. The satellites and space is what hangs most people up, I was the lead ground system engineer for a polar satellite, infrared, for early warning missile defense, and here I am. We need to rise above the illusion, old simplistic geometric concepts are outdated, curve space time says it all. Sensors are deceived, people that depend on those sensors are deceived.
You do realize that all earth measurement requires the horizontal plane of reference, surface or sea level? The earth has always been measured flat in all applications.
Your vision processing algorithm suggests: R = approx 100k (km or mi). OK I have one question: Right now, the working assumption is that flatness/curvature is uniform in all directions. It is a reasonable assumption in working processes. However, as we start to look with fine pair of eyes/technology, I am of the opinion that this assumption can be questioned. When looking through the view finder, let's say the positioning is such that the horizon is spanning - "SOUTH TO NORTH" (left to right). - Antarctica towards Arctic (left to right) Is south-end elevated relative to north-end? Is there a slope? A horizontal slope? A curved (R=100k) slope? Will your vision-processing technology pick -up this "south to north" downward slope?
hey bud, good questions, I'm still thinking how to best process my gigabytes of data, any suggestions welcome. BTW, the scale is miles, 100 000 miles and higher observed radius. Mind blown that's for sure, which means only one thing, the celestial lights we've based our theory on, and the small 4k radius, is dead wrong, this brings everything into question. If the earth is that large, we must be deceived by lights from above, as it passes and is lensed by .... The DOME! They built a futuristic advanced dome to focus the sun light, prismatic in nature maybe, so we could be living in a dome placed at the North Pole of a very large planet, or it's simply a planetarium of grand proportions built by the creators as a habitat for us and the whole animal and plant ecosystem. I have experiments in progress to determine the pixel resolution ...
It will take some effort to follow your math, but don't you still have to contend with the following math: *cos(a) = r/(r+h),* where a is dip angle (easily seen with IR and theodolite). It's simplified with a couple of small-number approximations: *1-a^2/2 = (r-h)/r = 1-h/r* so *a^2 = 2h/r* or *r = 2h/a^2* If *h = 9km* and *a = 3°/57.3°/rad = .0524 rad.* So *r = 2*9/.0524^2 = 18/.002741 = 18*364.81 = 6566 km.* The accepted value is *6378,* so I'm a bit high by *3%* - could be worse.
Hey JT, a lot of work you put in there, and thanks for that, but I do need to point out that when viewing the horizon the visual curvature is definitely not a radius of 3959 miles. The radius of the circle of the visible horizon is much greater. So I would think a fundamental error there on your part to make an invalid comparison like that.
Hi CT, thanks. Lot's of work for sure. Let me point out that this code determines the parallax shift from steep angles out to the horizon, so we're imaging the visible "disk" underneath the plane that has a visible radius (not up-down curvature) in the horizontal plane of over 5000 miles, ( I had a few data points out past 15 000 miles.) We then curve fit a radial cut through the surface profile of this disk, that passes through its center. So not much to do with the horizontal radius of visibility, if I were to take 5000 mi, the limit of visibility and turn that into an equivalent earth radius it would be even larger. We really want to curve fit to data at steeper angles, and closer to the aircraft, where we know from Snell's law that refraction is minimized. USGA tried with IR laser drones, and got a flat surface. Only from space can we get a good perspective to measure the curvature accurately, but we know their tricks don't we. Anyway, in a future upgrade I might extend the code to look sideways from the center, but for now I'm pleased with the accuracy. Manually this would of taken a super long time, and the accuracy would have been poor. Cheers
Wasn’t it Einstein that said if you travel in a straight line for long enough you will eventually arrive back to where you started? Space time curvature hens teeth. Man who does not know who he is, tries to explain everything else.
Einstein was just a puppet, specifically put in place to discredit the Michelson/Morley/Gale and "Airy's failure" experiments that showed the earth is stationary. He did so by (mis)using a Lorentz transformation to time/length/space ; y = sqr(1- t^2 / c^2) ^-1 Basically saying that instead of earth being stationary (which it is), measuring devices shrink due to their velocity relative to the "speed of light" which is bunk. The ether has an induction speed which "science" calls "speed of light".
Is there any ancient cosmology that suggests a VERY LARGE earth? For me, such a cosmology would be an interesting starting point. PS I think that evolution is a cult/psyop that competes with other cults/psyops going out of fashion. Having said that, cult/psyop is not my business.
On the first point YES , indeed....! However, the evolution is unfortunately true. Only because the fallen angels manipulated the DNA of every living animal upon the face of the Earth. HENCE The Great Flood was to wipe that out.
@@lizabellos4859 "On the first point YES , indeed....!" Which one? 👍🏻Please tell me. 👍🏻 "Evolution // fallen angles // DNA manipulation // Great flood" This line of events is perhaps very interesting and appealing to you and other like minded people.
@@CIA.Agent.Gold.Skin.1 Please just answer the question. I have stood on the ocean shore and observed this happen and I had binoculars. Please explain it.
@@JoeMelon And a lunar eclipse that has the earth's curved shadow cast over it is what? The answer is obvious. There is something around the earth, if the earth is flat as you say. Something IS CASTING a curved shadow. I want to now what the curved something is.
You will know how much curvature there is, by studying how much of it is accounted for by airplane ✈️ pilots, which is zero, so anybody telling you any different in any way, is either deceived or deceiving….
O que fica é que provavelmente as medidas dos mapas não estão corretas. Provavelmente o mapa não está correto E provavelmente exista terras além da borda!!
Maistru! Ya es muy tarde para berrinches con Tolan. Quedaste como sabandija luego de contradecir tu propio discurso con el sol de 24 horas. Ahora Jeran te tiene por TRAIDOR
Oye, Iru, ¿y ahora con quien te vas a alinear?¿sobre qué línea conspiranoica te vas a montar? Digo, ya que tuviste que aceptar el sol dd media noche tendrás que recular y tomar otro caminito 😂
Hola, Iru. Ya que no te animaste a debatir con Curva Planet, ¿por qué no debates con el autor del libro "Cómo debatir con un terraplanista y refutar sus patrañas"? Aquí te espero... si te atreves.
"You are the best" 😂😂😂😂 Si quieres te prestamos trapo para que le sigas lustrando los zapatos, porque con la lengua no te alcanza. El profe Angel Buenrostro te hizo pedazos evidenciando lo charlatán, mentiroso y estafador que eres.
It's so nice to see a smart man (Human). Thank you to the one who gave me the intelligence to see everything around me. Or almost everything....Thank you for your hard work (hobby), it gives you confidence in making the right decisions!😊
I think our next step is to somehow get into the astronomy observatories and use their telescopes for long distance observations… I had a conversation with a PhD astronomer in Hawaii who said they could see candle light from California observatories… They do it in both directions..Mauna Kea to California.. The required 450 miles of curving drop is not there…
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THIS PROVES EARTH IS FLAT! THANK YOU SIR!
100%
Hello, I live in Brazil and I don't know English. I'm writing this using Google Translate. I would like to know if in this video he is proving, through calculations, the absence of curvature?
No it didn't
@ you should cry more. If you know it’s not why you here? Because “you know”… lol.
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you sir! You remain cutting edge!
This is the best gift I got this year. Love your work. Thank you.
Hello, I live in Brazil and I don't know English. I'm writing this using Google Translate. I would like to know if in this video he is proving, through calculations, the absence of curvature?
@@euzebio2343 sim, ele é, mas também está provando que a Terra é muito maior do que nos dizem.
@@euzebio2343no he says that there is some curvature but much less than previously told, which means that the earth must be a lot larger. But the problem with that is that the entire Helios model will be destroyed in that case since everything in it is calculated on top of this diameter. So if the calcs turn out correct and effective it’s proof for what many already have observed, that we do not live on a spinning ball with this size.
Ballsackers be like...."SEE...., I TOLD YOU THE EARTH WAS CURVED" Missing the entire point of a minimal curve at 1 million miles.
And that's just the radius LoL
LMFAO!
Nope. What you should note is that the curve is *still* the way we told you, despite refraction working against it. And you should do a simple precision check, those lens and sensor numbers shown aren't precise.
@@0LoneTech "We???" Are you on the International Earth Curvature Information Team??? 🤣🤣🤣
BRILLIANT I will be waiting. I have flown 1000s of times and I knew I was seeing landmarks over 3000 miles away and I knew the Earth's radius was much larger than 3900 miles
"I have flown 1000s of times and I knew I was seeing landmarks over 3000 miles"
Brilliant. 🌟🌟🌟
When we start to piece together each anomaly, one by one, like the one above:
Sum of all known anomalies = Σ anomalies 1 to n.,
Such a collage paints a picture that is refreshingly NEW.
BTW which landmark did you see 3000 miles away?
No curvature
Yes, It's great to hear your one and only voice. It's been a while brother.
I must admit that around a year ago you blew my mind after three or four years of, more than trusting and digesting nearly everything that you presented, and then there seemed to be a disconnect. It’s very nice to see you back on line and I pray that you will continue to add your brilliance and skillful observation along with your dedication to scientific observation as we spiral through this ever twisting web of lies.
Shit went weird there for awhile didn’t it? 🤣
I'm so glad the earth is still flat! Merry Christmas!
That was a long wait! Great work. Interesting that the Dutch guy, Godgevlamste poses that our planet is at least 1000 times larger than we are told.
YOUR THE MAN ALWAYS WITH THE WIN AND PROOF IN HAND! LOVE YA BROTHER MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU AND YOURS AND WE ALL ARE GOING TO HAVE A HAPPY NEW YEAR!
Ditto!!!
Christmas is a pagan holiday my friend
@@Staridido1 and your point is?
@@Staridido1 …quite possibly but matters not to me in this case, as I have had many frens overs the years from different religions and practices and will always convey best wishes in their celebrations…not sure of the point here, other than maybe trying to educate me…I can always use some, though in this case I have heard many arguments throughout my life that point to this fact ..me personally had gotten disgruntled with the celebration at 6-7yrs old and did not celebrate the holiday by 14yrs old but in no way would I ever discourage, nor deny one’s choice to celebrate a belief…as for the quite possible, it remains that information has become so convoluted and sometimes downright perverted that one claiming knowledge of such a thing could just as easily quite possibly be wrong(I would refer to records of many different cultures adding and subtracting from such, rendering what we see today)…if your point is your own feeling of discomfort in it, well many (even those that practice it), feel such… take your time fren
I had to watch again .
5000 miles, what...?
Amazing ...!
In your comments you said the Chinese and USGS are finding the same calculations?
This is truly wonderful.
Thank you for your hard work...!
😊
Jay Tolan is incredible!
Simply brilliant, Sir! Absolutely enjoy your distinctive presentation style and voice. Really looking forward to more earth plane evidence from you, JT!
Thank you brother and Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.
Christmas is a pagan holiday my friend
Hohoho thanx J! Glad to see you as always. LOVE from Spain brother
Thank you for your dedication and work!
Ballers have been JT bagged in the face once again by the truth and empirical facts.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Wow. Great work.
I’ll never forget meeting you in Vegas. Maybe my favorite part of the trip. I knew it was you when you asked me if was a flat earther down in the casino😁. Would you believe your voice instantly tipped me off? 😂 I had the pleasure of escorting you to the crew. Very fun for me.
Thanks for all you do!
oh hey man, good times! I was so lost 😀 Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas, JT !!! 🎄🎁🎄🎁. Great to see you !!
Christmas is a pagan holiday my friend
Mind blown, Merry Christmas!
Christmas is a pagan holiday my friend
If infrared sees further and is less subject to refraction, then it shows a more or less true horizon.
Merry Christmas & a Happy New Year to you & yours, JT.
thanks Mike, Merry Christmas & a Happy New Year!
Purrfect evidence of a flat surface again... Booom. Beautiful boxing day and Happy new year JT. Many thanks
Hello, I live in Brazil and I don't know English. I'm writing this using Google Translate. I would like to know if in this video he is proving, through calculations, the absence of curvature?
@@euzebio2343 sim, ele é, mas também está provando que a Terra é muito maior do que nos dizem
@blaze1148 Ok, grato!
Thank you sir for all that you do!,greetings from Croatia ,,wish you all the best for Christmas
From Sibenik...Christmas is a pagan holiday my friend...
Thanks for all you do! Keep up the amazing work. We are learning!!
You could use the pyramid in Memphis as a distance target. I hear its reflective enough to see from the sky. And its distinctive enough to not get confused for anything else.
I only saw one of those circles with it inside. You could have it in a few frames and not know it.
Undeniable
Merry Christmas ! Thank you so much ! Best present Ever ! God Bless J Tolan and his Family !
Christmas is a pagan holiday my friend
Proving Earth is FLAT is a great gift no matter what day it is ...!
Shalom
Thanks JT!!!
Merry Christmas 🎄🎁
it will be perfect when every airplane passenger will be able to use a camera to see the range of the horizon and see the shape of the earth!
Aisle seats, come on bro.
Concave , curving up
the curve might be an artifact of the different layers the light passes through prior to getting to the pixel sensor .....(which has optical optimized layer of glass) but the curve of the lens pressure difference of the air in the plane and outside the plain and composition of the air, and the plane window are all interfering with the path of the light (plane window being very sketchy due to the different layers and bad optical property quality)
but then again, 1 million miles compared to the globe radius ... you would say EARTH the area we know and mapped is then pretty flat (as in a comparative measurement from globe earth assumption to "flat earth measurement) .... an other thing is that the area you sampled is over land, and we know land has shape, surface change ... but i think on this scale that does not really matter any more :D
yeah, its a complicated problem, window, air refraction, surface variation, etc.. initially I was going to do a statistical analysis and show the curvature with high confidence, then my mind was blown by how far we're seeing, based on the slight shift close to the horizon. The FFT phase cross-correlation is incredible, I never would have accurately determined the effects close to the horizon by manually analyzing the images, like I've done in one of my previous videos. I checked with the USGA and they use IR lidar sensors, and not even they can determine the curvature, they say the data they have is "elevations above the ellipsoid" the magical imaginary ellipsoid. Nasa doesn't help, in fact I'm accusing them of purposefully using fisheye lenses to hide the truth. Nothing wrong with using fisheye lenses for a wide perspective, but they are covering up the truth. The Chinese released incredible flat surface imagery with new lenses, panorama lenses. Truth can not be hidden much longer. The space age has brough about a new understanding of the surface of the earth.
@@jtolanmedia1 There's no mystery about the shape of the Earth. You can use any GPS equipment that outputs raw ECEF coordinates. Most high-end stuff is accurate to about 2cm vertical accuracy. I like some of your stuff but flat Earth is truly one of the lamest conspiracy theories.
@billybowden7079 wrong!
@@jtolanmedia1 So you know when someone says "I´m like a MILLION miles away"... well... there ya go. Science! ,-)
Anyhow, fun fact, thing about the human body and plane windows, the european spine f.ex, has a difference in +10/-10 cm approx. between each person, hence when you sit on a plane, or bus, though never in the cinema for some reason, or concerts come to think of it, most peoples heads line up, although if they all stood up, the height differences would be as per usual. So, we all sit next to the window and look downwards through a concave window, and if you bend your neck to get a better "straight" view of the horizon, you will usually be looking through the top of the window giving you insta curve due to the window shape which I´m sure you´ve worked out when filming yourself. So, a child will be looking out the middle of the window where it will see a flat, level surface by default if it looks straight towards the horizon. Reverse Santa basically. This one hits harder for most though... "So who WAS the Globe then?" *cries*. Over and out. Lev Vel PS! The spine thing is best illustrated with (a member of the opposite) sex. Line up the top of your hips standing next to each other, you or the other person will have to bend the knees to level with the other person, look into their eyes when hips are same height and say: "Hip to Hip, Eye to Eye". Works every time, 69% of the time. Merry Yuletide
What’s the best way to contact you sir?
jtolanmedia1@google.com
Thank you! ❤
Blessings to you and yours.
Feliz navidad Mr. J Tolan from Guadalajara México!!!!
It's incredible!
exactly what is incredible ?
That's his "tag line" or whatever it's called... But the Earth having a radius of 100K up to a million kilometers is pretty incredible... Or it's just flat, which is the basket I choose to put my egg in...
@@eugeniustheodidactus8890 ....did you even watch and understand the video 😆
Too bad you weren't invided to that Anartic trip would have nice to see what you could have found !
Antarctica trip, when did that happen? My wife keeps telling me about it, maybe after the kids are off to college, we can escape.
It was called "The Final Experiment " Showed a 24 hour sun in Antarctica.
@@MK-cw4gwno it did not. Its fake and that is why no 24 hour live stream. Dont be gullible
@@MK-cw4gw You might wanna watch the vid some The Flat Earth Warriorz. There isnt a 24h sun down there as the footage from before this whole charade took place shows it set. But what is interesting is how they did it, worth the watch :)
Oh and mooktoon has tiny lil legs lmao
@@DurpVonFronz Marty Leads and the FEB channel did good follow ups as well. I appreciate the tip though, I'll check it out.
Thank you and Merry Christmas Mr. JTolan!! 😶🌫
Would be helpful if you could explain the principles of what you're measuring here in more detail. Thank you!
sure, were extracting information from two images that contain parallax. i.e. objects closer to us move through a larger observed angle, then object farther in the distance, and this horizontal shift can be converted into distance. So the code determines the horizontal shift, in very thin slices, all the way out to the horizon. Then these slant radial distances are converted to horizontal and vertical distance. H distance from under the aircraft, and vertical distance below the horizon line, (using R* sin(el) and R*cos(el), where el is the elevation angle, determined from vertical pixel index where the slices were processed), and that's it in a nut shell.
I have accepted that I will never understand what he is saying. I must be dumb as a post. Lol.
He does speak a different language, doesn't he?!?
Trigonometry on slices of an image to calculate above ground elevation and horizon distance using a computer @@eugeniustheodidactus8890.
@@eugeniustheodidactus8890 Wait what?
This is a fine algorithm, but you should probably base your unit conversion on data with slightly more precision than 2 digits (like those brochure numbers for lens and sensor data). Take video in the same format (that includes focused on infinity) of an entire revolution, perhaps in an open field or on a high hill, and assemble a panorama with something like Hugin or PanoTools. This should let you calibrate the lens data for your device. Gyroflow can also do a quick calibration using a monitor.
tanks for the tips, next time I go flying I'm stepping up to my 50mm lens, so I can see the horizon slightly more magnified, yet retain a decent FOV
@jtolanmedia1 I'd love to see the error margins on this with rounding intervals applied (e.g. 1.55
Good to see ya back. How are you doing, & will you be posting more often from now on.
Happy Chanukah 😊
Miss seeing you.
You look great ...!
hugs to family ...
thanks, Happy Chanukah!
@jtolanmedia1
Thank you , may Yah continue to bless your effort and rain down an abundance of wealth , health, and happiness .
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💥 отличная работа! Спасибо.🤝
I bet a certain Mr. "I´ve become COPErnicus, destroyer of models" would have LOVED to have seen this 2 weeks ago
Merry Christmas, God Bless us and thank you!! ❤😊
That's a really big ball.
I think our next step is to somehow get into the astronomy observatories and use their telescopes for long distance observations… I had a conversation with a PhD astronomer in Hawaii who said they could see candle light from California observatories… They do it in both directions..Mauna Kea to California.. The required 450 miles of curving drop is not there…
Wonder what a globe believer would make of this?
I am a Flat surface Globe earth Believer! Haha, but seriously Remote sensing is a science, and I intend to unlock all the mysteries so help me God!
1. Geographic Analysis
1.1. Claim that Earth is "incredibly flat.": This claim contradicts overwhelming geographic and geodetic evidence accumulated over centuries, demonstrating that Earth is an oblate spheroid (slightly flattened at the poles). Direct observations from space, GPS measurements, and global topographic studies confirm this shape.
1.2. Use of aerial and infrared images: While aerial images may appear flat due to scale and limited perspective from an airplane, this does not invalidate Earth's curvature. Geographical methods rely on more robust systems like satellite measurements to determine Earth's shape accurately.
2. Physical Analysis
2.1. Parallax and light refraction: The video acknowledges that refraction affects visual perception, which is accurate. However, it uses this phenomenon to argue that Earth is "flat." Refraction can slightly curve the light’s path but does not negate Earth’s curvature; it is, in fact, factored into advanced geodetic calculations.
1.2. The claim that infrared images eliminate refraction effects is incorrect, as refraction affects all wavelengths, albeit less for longer ones. This is insufficient to invalidate established models. Estimation of curvature at "a million miles.": This calculation contradicts all known physics about Earth's radius, which is approximately 6,371 km (3,959 miles). Assuming such a vast curvature is physically untenable and lacks experimental support.
3. Geometric Analysis
3.1. Use of computer vision algorithms. The approach of slicing images and performing cross-correlation is technically valid for measuring relative displacements in images but has limitations: Without precise calibration of the optical system (pixel size, focal length, camera tilt), the measurements lack accuracy.
3.2. Cross-correlation only measures apparent displacements and does not directly translate to the global geometric shape.
Conclusion on curvature based on cloud images: Clouds are dynamic and variable structures that are not representative of Earth's curvature. Using them as a reference is methodologically incorrect.
General Conclusion: The claims in the video do not withstand critical analysis from geographic, physical, or geometric perspectives. The observations presented seem to be based on a misinterpretation of the data and methods employed. Geodetic science has conclusively demonstrated that Earth has a defined curvature consistent with an oblate spheroid. The alleged "evidence" of flatness mentioned in the video is not supported by reliable data or the current understanding of the physical and geometric phenomena involved.
....but let's ignore the fact that there is a 24hr sun in Antarctica!
Haha let’s ignore things indeed! 😂
Could you calculate how far the North star is? I'm curious to know how far Mt. Zion is. The kingdom in the North.
YAHs kingdom is above the firmament, stars are fixed inside the firmament
Merry Christmas Brother and Family 🙏😁
Brillantes tus aportes amigo
Feliz Navidad From Uruguay!!! South América ó dónde sea que estemos. Aquí otra terraplanista solo acepto pruebas y tú las das
Ya no repito como loro lo que la ciencia dice sin fundamentos
Well said...!
Fellow Flat Earther...!
Another great video
Hay J whats your thoughts on Jaren and now its a Ball Debacle
oh, I haven't heard, I haven't watched other FE videos in years, science is fluid, as more evidence comes in we need to evaluate and shift, and we may even shift back and forth. The satellites and space is what hangs most people up, I was the lead ground system engineer for a polar satellite, infrared, for early warning missile defense, and here I am. We need to rise above the illusion, old simplistic geometric concepts are outdated, curve space time says it all. Sensors are deceived, people that depend on those sensors are deceived.
@ so look up The
“Final experiment” lol. What a clown show .
Let the weak be kings and the kings be peasants🎉
You do realize that all earth measurement requires the horizontal plane of reference, surface or sea level? The earth has always been measured flat in all applications.
Your vision processing algorithm suggests: R = approx 100k (km or mi). OK
I have one question:
Right now, the working assumption is that flatness/curvature is uniform in all directions.
It is a reasonable assumption in working processes.
However, as we start to look with fine pair of eyes/technology, I am of the opinion that this assumption can be questioned.
When looking through the view finder, let's say the positioning is such that the horizon is spanning
- "SOUTH TO NORTH" (left to right).
- Antarctica towards Arctic (left to right)
Is south-end elevated relative to north-end?
Is there a slope? A horizontal slope? A curved (R=100k) slope?
Will your vision-processing technology pick -up this "south to north" downward slope?
hey bud, good questions, I'm still thinking how to best process my gigabytes of data, any suggestions welcome. BTW, the scale is miles, 100 000 miles and higher observed radius. Mind blown that's for sure, which means only one thing, the celestial lights we've based our theory on, and the small 4k radius, is dead wrong, this brings everything into question. If the earth is that large, we must be deceived by lights from above, as it passes and is lensed by .... The DOME! They built a futuristic advanced dome to focus the sun light, prismatic in nature maybe, so we could be living in a dome placed at the North Pole of a very large planet, or it's simply a planetarium of grand proportions built by the creators as a habitat for us and the whole animal and plant ecosystem. I have experiments in progress to determine the pixel resolution ...
@@jtolanmedia1 100k mi: even more flatter. 👍🏻
@@jtolanmedia1 gigabytes of data
Computer with AI chips
А agisoftmetashape использовать нельзя? / agisoftmetashape is not allowed to use?
Instead of saying "The Earth is Flat" you have started to say "The Earth is incredibly Large" meaning that it`s not flat? Please be more specific.
I'm trying to reach more scientific people, the FE word triggers people (and youtube) so we must be cautious and clever
entonces lo que vemos como caida por curvatura es la luz que se dobla en el horizonte.
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It will take some effort to follow your math, but don't you still have to contend with the following math:
*cos(a) = r/(r+h),* where a is dip angle (easily seen with IR and theodolite). It's simplified with a couple of small-number approximations:
*1-a^2/2 = (r-h)/r = 1-h/r* so
*a^2 = 2h/r* or *r = 2h/a^2*
If *h = 9km* and *a = 3°/57.3°/rad = .0524 rad.*
So *r = 2*9/.0524^2 = 18/.002741 = 18*364.81 = 6566 km.* The accepted value is *6378,* so I'm a bit high by *3%* - could be worse.
Hey JT, a lot of work you put in there, and thanks for that, but I do need to point out that when viewing the horizon the visual curvature is definitely not a radius of 3959 miles. The radius of the circle of the visible horizon is much greater. So I would think a fundamental error there on your part to make an invalid comparison like that.
Hi CT, thanks. Lot's of work for sure. Let me point out that this code determines the parallax shift from steep angles out to the horizon, so we're imaging the visible "disk" underneath the plane that has a visible radius (not up-down curvature) in the horizontal plane of over 5000 miles, ( I had a few data points out past 15 000 miles.) We then curve fit a radial cut through the surface profile of this disk, that passes through its center. So not much to do with the horizontal radius of visibility, if I were to take 5000 mi, the limit of visibility and turn that into an equivalent earth radius it would be even larger. We really want to curve fit to data at steeper angles, and closer to the aircraft, where we know from Snell's law that refraction is minimized. USGA tried with IR laser drones, and got a flat surface. Only from space can we get a good perspective to measure the curvature accurately, but we know their tricks don't we. Anyway, in a future upgrade I might extend the code to look sideways from the center, but for now I'm pleased with the accuracy. Manually this would of taken a super long time, and the accuracy would have been poor. Cheers
Still flat?
you bet, super incredible flatness, which means only one thing, ... we live under a Dome!
@ my prayers for you, so you don’t change your mind about incredible Gods DOME ❤️ Marry Christmas from ukraine front line
THAT'S WHAT HE IS IMPLYING GENIUS, OF COURSE, IT'S FLAT HE KNOWS THAT. JEEZE!
Wasn’t it Einstein that said if you travel in a straight line for long enough you will eventually arrive back to where you started? Space time curvature hens teeth. Man who does not know who he is, tries to explain everything else.
Einstein was just a puppet, specifically put in place to discredit the Michelson/Morley/Gale and "Airy's failure" experiments that showed the earth is stationary. He did so by (mis)using a Lorentz transformation to time/length/space ; y = sqr(1- t^2 / c^2) ^-1
Basically saying that instead of earth being stationary (which it is), measuring devices shrink due to their velocity relative to the "speed of light" which is bunk. The ether has an induction speed which "science" calls "speed of light".
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Jtolan the glober we already know earth is flat long before you started posting videos.
Do you still claim earth is a ball?
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Is there any ancient cosmology that suggests a VERY LARGE earth?
For me, such a cosmology would be an interesting starting point.
PS
I think that evolution is a cult/psyop that competes with other cults/psyops going out of fashion.
Having said that, cult/psyop is not my business.
On the first point YES , indeed....!
However, the evolution is unfortunately true. Only because the fallen angels manipulated the DNA of every living animal upon the face of the Earth.
HENCE The Great Flood was to wipe that out.
@@lizabellos4859 "On the first point YES , indeed....!"
Which one? 👍🏻Please tell me. 👍🏻
"Evolution // fallen angles // DNA manipulation // Great flood"
This line of events is perhaps very interesting and appealing to you and other like minded people.
@CIA.Agent.Gold.Skin.1
Your first point, the earth is much bigger than they claim.
So why do ships disappear (fall below an eye observation line) to the observer at the ocean shore?
Honest question.
Whatch JT's previous vids, and you'll know :-)
No, a better question in year 2017 was:
Why do ships RE-APPEAR when zoomed using Nikon P900 camera?
You're 8 years late.
@@CIA.Agent.Gold.Skin.1
Please just answer the question.
I have stood on the ocean shore and observed this happen and I had binoculars.
Please explain it.
@@JoeMelon And a lunar eclipse that has the earth's curved shadow cast over it is what?
The answer is obvious. There is something around the earth, if the earth is flat as you say. Something IS CASTING a curved shadow. I want to now what the curved something is.
You will know how much curvature there is, by studying how much of it is accounted for by airplane ✈️ pilots, which is zero, so anybody telling you any different in any way, is either deceived or deceiving….
O que fica é que provavelmente as medidas dos mapas não estão corretas.
Provavelmente o mapa não está correto
E provavelmente exista terras além da borda!!
FTE stirred up the lunatic hornets nest..,
ROTFLMAO
Our world cannot be built on a globe
So earth is flat like cake . Thanks
Thank you! And a merry Christmas to all, even though our Savior wasn't born on this date.
Xmas = saturnalia
We already have high altitude balloon and rocket footage. Jtolan. We know earth is flat without you. We know earth is big.
Time to wake up
sun or no sun the earth is still flat
You are the best!❤❤❤
Maistru!
Ya es muy tarde para berrinches con Tolan.
Quedaste como sabandija luego de contradecir tu propio discurso con el sol de 24 horas.
Ahora Jeran te tiene por TRAIDOR
Oye, Iru, ¿y ahora con quien te vas a alinear?¿sobre qué línea conspiranoica te vas a montar? Digo, ya que tuviste que aceptar el sol dd media noche tendrás que recular y tomar otro caminito 😂
Hola, Iru. Ya que no te animaste a debatir con Curva Planet, ¿por qué no debates con el autor del libro "Cómo debatir con un terraplanista y refutar sus patrañas"? Aquí te espero... si te atreves.
"You are the best" 😂😂😂😂
Si quieres te prestamos trapo para que le sigas lustrando los zapatos, porque con la lengua no te alcanza.
El profe Angel Buenrostro te hizo pedazos evidenciando lo charlatán, mentiroso y estafador que eres.
@@Nurparatodos AND you are the BEST LIAR 😝
Earth is concave. I suspect JTolan knows this too.
I do, I live in a concave valley, most of us do :)
First! 😎👍💪
Congrats! :)
Stop wasting your time dopy. There is no curve.
Research concave earth -- you're living inside of the earth, it's curving up
Yes, Antarctica is the rim of the bowl.
FLAT EARTH IS DEAD GUYS 😂
Long live globe tards~
LUL 😂
It's so nice to see a smart man (Human).
Thank you to the one who gave me the intelligence to see everything around me.
Or almost everything....Thank you for your hard work (hobby), it gives you confidence in making the right decisions!😊
U know whats amazing ? so many in the comments sau merry Christmas which is a pagan holiday...
I’ve done some videos on it this year, but yes it is big time 🙏🏻
I think our next step is to somehow get into the astronomy observatories and use their telescopes for long distance observations… I had a conversation with a PhD astronomer in Hawaii who said they could see candle light from California observatories… They do it in both directions..Mauna Kea to California.. The required 450 miles of curving drop is not there…