@A history of deception so you're saying they have people ready to work/being bored, but just don't unload the ships? Or they don't need the people they claim can't work due to covid restrictions? If on both they are not 'claiming' the workere missing or covid, it'd actually be the cause.
I included the fish eye lens footage first to hook in the sleeping globe believers! Hahahahah. Wait until I show you the Photogrammetry results, this area is so incredibly flat!
Amazing...another footage from a height. Shockingly...flat...u should try figuring out whats wrong with the curve calculator and compare your findings with that at ground level...an ego beyond belief with a degree in something was less advanced than our previous generation. 200k job and claims the entire world is flat...
Hehe I loved that curved roof at the start, knew you were up to something. Great video. Really appreciate all you do. As the field of knowledge and information expands, the faster the mind of man awakens... to the Truth. And as we know, only the Truth can set us free. 🙏🙌
I work at a truck stop, always have problems getting certain products, now we know the truth, plenty of product, but the port won't let them in. Thank you so much Mr Tolan. Flat, stationary, set on pillars❗
@@bogganalseryd2324 What he was showing was not IR. That was a editing filter and or just a lens filter. That is not IR. 3:39 he puts on a lens filter. . . . .
@@InLakech_AlaKin no, though that doesn't change the fact that it's not clear where eyelevel is and the only reason it is precieved to be 'clear' is circular or reification.
@@InLakech_AlaKinit makes the difference of validity. A statement being true does not make fallacious reasoning for that statement valid. I didn't make an argument, I asked a question. You then fallaciously inferred a Motive behind the question. I then answered you and added an explanation. Not sure what your problem is.
When you zoomed in... and the water of the bay came into focus, I said out loud "You gotta be kidding!" Even though I'm alone! That's how amazing it was. Many thanks for such an incredible, mind blowing video.
" infrared bends the light" Nope. Refraction in gas bends all EM radiation. "to make objects appear behind the curve" Nope again, refraction will make it appear less curved. It's amazing how little you guys know and yet still think that supports a belief.
@@michaeldunlavey6015 Well then you didn't watch the video. Ignorance is bliss Explain to me what you are looking at because there is absolutely no curvature in this video. Do you have a time? Some people on RUclips leave a "time stamp"... Can you do that?
@@labbeaj Any curve looks flat if you look at a small enough part of it. You can look at a _really_ small part by zooming in on it. You could zoom way in on a bowling ball and say "See? It's flat!" This thinking is widely shared by flat-earthers.
@@labbeaj The whole blessed thing, especially where he zooms in. Any curve looks flat if you zoom in on it. Do you need a time stamp to see that? If you do, pick a time anywhere from 1:15 to 6:19. If it helps, I calculated it with a program, assuming a height of 6144 feet. If your camera has a field of view of 60 degrees (very wide), the amount of drop at each end is .186 degrees, pretty small. And that's on a panorama shot. But If you zoom in to a field of view of 1 degree, the amount of drop at each end is .0000529 degrees. No camera has dense enough pixels to see that. That's what happens when you zoom in on a curve - it looks flat.
Thanks for showing all the ships. And thanks for using IR to view the horizon line. By the way, you were at 6144', so according to the globe, the horizon was 96 miles away. And the horizon would be 1°23' below eye level. Your theodolite could confirm that.
@@laurentpenot2656 103.69 miles, allowing for refraction, 95.99 geometric. This video proves nothing. My image of Mt. rainier at 119 miles away, taken at 1250' does prove the earth is spheroid, as it is possible to ascertain that about 3400' of the mountain is hidden ---for one reason and one only, the earth is spheroid. I'm basing that number on the earth curv calc #'s being in a range of ~900'- geometric or refracted
@@rogerbarnett8412 Refraction, BY DEFINITION, will have distortion. There is none here. STOP including refraction in every debunking of flat earth. It's not common! It's rare. The "science" guys always do this...smh...
@@williamcurrry5746 "Refraction, BY DEFINITION, will have distortion." Distortion, like refraction, varies. "There is none here." You have no geometrically perfect image to compare these shots to. " It's rare. " Nope. GAS, especially in a pressure gradient refracts. Fact of life.
@@williamcurrry5746 "The "science" guys always do this...smh..." Because they are skilled in the topic? Sure. It explains views that people Iie about online, because they think it's ok to Iie for religion.
YOU are the best JTolan! I’m proud to call you a neighbor and friend. Look me up when you want to take the boat out to the Channel Islands where I live. We’ll do some flat smacking, IR of Anacapa and Santa Cruz Islands, and whale watching! Last Sunday I had five humpbacks 🐋 surrounding my boat just playing! Amazing.
thanks, I have not been out to the channel islands yet but I have to go one of these days. So the whales are back? I guess this is the time. I saw them down in Mexico around December time frame few years ago, so neat to watch.
@@jtolanmedia1 I left a comment earlier, but it appears to have been filtered, even though I specifically avoided leaving a link. Take a look at my channel for the recent "Question for JTolan Media1" upload. I'm replying here on this thread just on the hope you'll see this and YT won't filter it into oblivion.
@@michaeldunlavey6015 He has. Look at his entire body of work and he said he'd follow up in another video with measurements and explanations. This is like a trailer or teaser.
@@emirfaslic5676 I've looked at all of them for the last couple years. His major thing is to use IR filters to cut haze and show the horizon. That's a really good thing. Everything else he says is pure wish, smothered in dubious math and lots of "shocking!" He NEVER uses his famous theodolite with IR filter to actually measure horizon dip angle, which is the easiest thing to measure, and which FE says is zero, while GE says is square root of height in kilometers. And he's not alone. I can't find one single FEer willing to measure it. They either beat around the bush on it, or pretend they didn't hear about it.
@@michaeldunlavey6015 well, I appreciate the experiments and the results. Tests like these made me invest in cameras to be able to see the shores of Iran from Bahrain. I don't know what else to say, but do not trust ANYTHING from some guys on the internet. Do the tests yourself as much as possible. I didn't bring a bunch of levels or lasers or anything, and I'm not claiming to know what is right, but what was presented to me was wrong in almost every way. I'm looking forward to the next video.
@@emirfaslic5676 If you want to be scientific, it's not about "them", it's about You. The first thing you have to do is say "How do I know I'm not fooling myself?"
Does anyone know if Wolfie6020 has done any IR footage from his high and mighty altitude? I wouldn't know I DON'T WATCH HIS CHANNEL!!!!! However I do remember reading in a comment that he said he was going to IR it up when our good man here Mr. J. Tolan started these IR shoots. Very good work JT, love your videos👍
@@winstonwolfe340 Are you TELLING me he hasn't done an IR shoot from his HIGH and MIGHTY altitude⁉️ YES or NO will do or write nothing to Opt out completely @whinger wolf🐺 😂😭😂🤣
@@nofanfare7426 he's far too dishonest to present anything that won't appeal to his biased Jesuit-trained narrative. He had a video some years back, taken from about 40,000 feet. He CLAIMED the sun had set in it, because it had rendered into a very tiny speck, but it was actually still perfectly visible. I actually pointed that out to him and his shill-budddies, so instead of admitting his mistake, he simply blocked me from commenting on his channel. Which suits me just fine. Why would I want to enhance the viewing content of a blatant liar's channel?
@@IronHorse1722 No need to tell me about him being a liar😂😭😂🤣 He?🤔 And his mate Good Golly miss Wa11y did a hit on me saying I was nuts and obsessed with him😂 I totally creamed him and exposed his filthy lies with snaps of my video wall and comments on my channel and his from the time. I saved those snaps 'cause I picked him as patalogical from the get go "AND I WAS RIGHT".
@@IronHorse1722 How about YOU go up to 9km (anybody can)? and level a ruler between opposite windows? It points at blue sky both ways. Now tell us it's pointing at the horizon both ways. That's something YOU can do, or you can just "know" who's lying.
California has got to have one of the longest coastlines right? That may make good footage. We could easily compare that to the curvature of Google Earth.
@@rocketspushoffair Yes, but we only see the apparent horizon. Refraction can also cause objects to disappear bottom up before they reach the apparent horizon on certain conditions.
@@halfhumanhalfzombie no, sorry, that's been completely debunked, you can't have both, you have NEVER measured a physical horizon and you NEVER WILL, because there is no curve 😎👍
maybe because I have not given youtube any money to promote my videos? This channel is about the truth, not necessarily about popularity or money or whatever, Here we can get a good feel for how many true flat earth believers there are (at least the ones with youtube accounts) or those that are curious enough from a scientific point of view to tolerate my whispers! hahaha , and there are quite a few of those based on the comments they leave. And that's ok, all are welcome. Geodesy is the science of the earth, and we have a lot of work to do to overturn centuries of erroneous ideas. :)
@@jtolanmedia1 I also like your channel because it doesn't get polluted with debate. Maybe it's ok for now you dont have a large audience. Some people get hung up on theory, idea's and opinions that can be hard to get over.
@@AnonymousAnonymous-sk5qz "polluted with debate." Seriously? You don't like open discussion of your belief system? In case what? You learn the a few million ACTUAL skilled people don't agree with the claims in the videos?
Considering refracción ( given by 2.68*10^(-8) units per meter in the refractive Index ) , then the horizont is given by: D = 3.92*√(h+0.1H)+4.11*√(H) Where: h : Heigth of the observer ( in meters ) H: Hidden Heigth (in meters ) D : in kilometers Then with 6140 ft of heigth, the horizont is at 170km whih is more than 100miles
The truth is so simple and Amazing, compared to the adversary who is the author of confusion and the lies of this world. Great video, short, sweet & complete! Thanks!!
As someone who was actually on the same ship as Travis Walton during those days I just wanted to declare you people are doing just fine, everything is a lie obviously but the liars are not going to shine ever again. J Tolan I sure would like to have lunch with you before I die dude and I don't think that is too much to ask for a loyal audience member who has done his best to make you famous. If only people knew how little time we have left you might take me seriously. As always and once again you nailed it and smashed the prevailing trailing dangling broken theory based on bullshit. Catalina is what 60 miles off shoar isn't it? I haven't been for 40 years but we did break down one day just offshoar, I hope you are having a great day my friend. Peace Sizzlean
100 miles is not really "too far away" right? Anyway, very nice video! I was thinking that if you are there, you could try to look from somewhere in long beach or rancho palos verdes to Biosphere Reserve El Vizcaino in Baja California. That could be absolutely spectacular! All the best for you!!!
find the town of Rimforest on a map and Strawberry peak is right there, about 6100 feet above MSL. I"m sure you're aware that there is refraction (and haze) that limits our view, so what may look like the horizon, might not be, even in infrared we have this problem, so shallow angle measurements are not reliable in computing the shape of the earth. For that we need photogrammetry, Lidar, or SAR. happy calculating ... :)
The map says 6144'. The 8" formula (2/3 foot) says h = 2/3 d^2 or d = sqrt(3/2 h) = 96 miles to the water horizon. The drop angle is a = 1.01*sqrt(6144/3280) = 1.38°
@@jtolanmedia1 Thank you for the info. I am not an expert in calculus. I am French, and I calculated the Hidden in meters. So I have eye level = 1872 meters Maximum target distance = 180 kilometers I find a Hidden = 51.20 meters It is a weak Hidden, my your images speak volumes. Otherwise, I invite you to look at the world record for long distance photography, set in France. Chaine = Nouvelle Géographie PLANétaire (HIDDEN World Record Low Altitude FLAT EARTH) Observe = 2,227 feet / 979 meters Distance = 325 miles / 523.79 km HO = 69.40 miles / 111.69 km HI = 43,680 feet / 13.31 km
Some people will get it someday that Australia is wider than the US. Some people will get it someday that although the sun is 10,000 miles away and 3,000 miles high, it disappears at night. etc. etc.
Why wouldn't you see the ships from there? The elevation of that look out is 6135 ft with those ships being 65 miles away. Do you want to do the maths?
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Goes to an observatory to prove we live on Pancakia. Funny funny funny. Now I know you're trolling. Found any secret maps of Pancakia on those ships yet? I want one!
No puedo entender bien ya que no está subtitulado pero los veo igual, son buenísimos! Por ejemplo no entiendo que es lo que ven. / I can not understand well since it is not subtitled but I see them same, they are great! For example I do not understand what they see.
@@michaeldunlavey6015 LOL... jokes.... Thanks for bringing that up! The Aztec Calendar-- how do we take that -- folklore or fact? Those who tout authority of "facts" do have mastery over years of regurgitated info. The basic original "premise" for the research comes back to the bottom line: what is taught and learned is based on presumed, off-base "knowledge". If the "Columbus" story is what it is, then how the f'ing hell are they able to navigate when the constellations would be constantly and unpredictably changing? "Authorities" said it's FACT and accept it. with the Foo Flu and the vax, "authorities' and experts are at odds!! So... back to "2012", fact or prank? I see Flat Earth getting an incredible, out of nowhere resurgence that will threaten belief paradigms governments and "authorities" are not ready to handle. My bad for lengthy reply...
Why are the ships parked ?
@A history of deception so you're saying they have people ready to work/being bored, but just don't unload the ships?
Or they don't need the people they claim can't work due to covid restrictions?
If on both they are not 'claiming' the workere missing or covid, it'd actually be the cause.
@A history of deception you're a special kind :D
@A history of deception maybe chyna weap@ns? Ready for landing ? Are u ready?
@google slave fitting name. You also seem to be of a special kind.
hahahahah. controlled demolition
I included the fish eye lens footage first to hook in the sleeping globe believers! Hahahahah. Wait until I show you the Photogrammetry results, this area is so incredibly flat!
Amazing...another footage from a height. Shockingly...flat...u should try figuring out whats wrong with the curve calculator and compare your findings with that at ground level...an ego beyond belief with a degree in something was less advanced than our previous generation. 200k job and claims the entire world is flat...
@@therealm232 Nope. Just bodies of water.
___L_E_V_E_L___
Hehe I loved that curved roof at the start, knew you were up to something. Great video. Really appreciate all you do. As the field of knowledge and information expands, the faster the mind of man awakens... to the Truth. And as we know, only the Truth can set us free. 🙏🙌
Haha!:) We, in the know, sure saw trough that one...
Just about to comment on the curved posts and horizon then read your post 😂
Even when you zoomed all the in on L.A. I was blown away at how much farther you could see our flat plane! Excellent job Mr. JTolan.
Why? At the viewer elevation, there is nothing hidden at those short distances on a globe, which the earth is, you doofus.
It's not flat
You will never find a single view that isn't explained by the model. These guys only make a dishonest claim so they get clicks.
I work at a truck stop, always have problems getting certain products, now we know the truth, plenty of product, but the port won't let them in. Thank you so much Mr Tolan. Flat, stationary, set on pillars❗
This has to be CGI! That was such clear video for those distances. Great job as always!
Lol. IR photography really kills it even more dead. Game over ball, game over.
It was great to see you on with Sean and Wes Blaze. Thanks so much for all you've done!
@@Scottmcvicker Thanks! Means a lot to have had you join us there and it was a major blessing to fellowship with them.
@@bogganalseryd2324 What he was showing was not IR. That was a editing filter and or just a lens filter. That is not IR. 3:39 he puts on a lens filter. . . . .
@@UltimateGaming-ih Actually, I think the camera get's put in a special mode and then you attach a filter to do IR.
Thanks for the 90 miles view to the island, that is clearly not 1degree lower , but an extension of the line of sight, thanks from Belgium
How do you know where in the shot eyelevel is?
Are you suggesting that you see curvature?
@@InLakech_AlaKin no, though that doesn't change the fact that it's not clear where eyelevel is and the only reason it is precieved to be 'clear' is circular or reification.
@@curious1585 about how much difference does it make? What exactly is your argument?
@@InLakech_AlaKinit makes the difference of validity. A statement being true does not make fallacious reasoning for that statement valid.
I didn't make an argument, I asked a question.
You then fallaciously inferred a Motive behind the question. I then answered you and added an explanation.
Not sure what your problem is.
Amazing as always. My brain feels relaxed when you show us the Father’s creation in your own special way. Beautiful work, JT !
When you zoomed in... and the water of the bay came into focus, I said out loud "You gotta be kidding!" Even though I'm alone! That's how amazing it was. Many thanks for such an incredible, mind blowing video.
"and the water of the bay came into focus, I said out loud "You gotta be kidding!" "
But why?
@@Cosmic-Spanner To see all that definition at that distance.
@@davidlyall7346 Oh. Zoom. Goctha. You know, you can get better optics than the ones Tolan uses.
Ballers explanation is that infrared bends the light to make objects appear behind the curve 😁
They think IR stands for Imminent Radius😂😭😂🤣
since when?
@@michaeldunlavey6015 It's sad how many have fallen for JTolan's poorly researched drivel. just look at the thumbs up count
" infrared bends the light" Nope. Refraction in gas bends all EM radiation.
"to make objects appear behind the curve" Nope again, refraction will make it appear less curved. It's amazing how little you guys know and yet still think that supports a belief.
Awesome! Thanks for these videos man! I watch immediately every time you post. You are a scholar & hero sir!! Blessings in the name of Yeshua!
Wow! Would you just look at that! Unbelievable folks!
Imagine how far and clear companies and gov's with unlimited budget for crazy optics and sensors can see.
No one can see beyond the curvature of our awesome sphere.
Looks flat to me.
@@avarageguy8934 Nowhere to be found.
Because it is!
as it should, on a globe.
Don't treat wishes as facts.
There's still absolutely no sign of curvature!
If you don't look, you're right.
@@michaeldunlavey6015 Well then you didn't watch the video. Ignorance is bliss
Explain to me what you are looking at because there is absolutely no curvature in this video.
Do you have a time?
Some people on RUclips leave a "time stamp"...
Can you do that?
@@labbeaj Any curve looks flat if you look at a small enough part of it. You can look at a _really_ small part by zooming in on it. You could zoom way in on a bowling ball and say "See? It's flat!" This thinking is widely shared by flat-earthers.
@@michaeldunlavey6015 OK but what part of the video are you referring to?
Can you answer the question directly, please?
@@labbeaj The whole blessed thing, especially where he zooms in. Any curve looks flat if you zoom in on it. Do you need a time stamp to see that? If you do, pick a time anywhere from 1:15 to 6:19.
If it helps, I calculated it with a program, assuming a height of 6144 feet.
If your camera has a field of view of 60 degrees (very wide), the amount of drop at each end is .186 degrees, pretty small. And that's on a panorama shot.
But If you zoom in to a field of view of 1 degree, the amount of drop at each end is .0000529 degrees. No camera has dense enough pixels to see that. That's what happens when you zoom in on a curve - it looks flat.
Always a pleasure to watch your footage. Great Job!
Thanks for showing all the ships. And thanks for using IR to view the horizon line.
By the way, you were at 6144', so according to the globe, the horizon was 96 miles away.
And the horizon would be 1°23' below eye level. Your theodolite could confirm that.
So according to the view in the video, what is the supposed distance !?
@@laurentpenot2656 103.69 miles, allowing for refraction, 95.99 geometric. This video proves nothing. My image of Mt. rainier at 119 miles away, taken at 1250' does prove the earth is spheroid, as it is possible to ascertain that about 3400' of the mountain is hidden ---for one reason and one only, the earth is spheroid. I'm basing that number on the earth curv calc #'s being in a range of ~900'- geometric or refracted
@@rogerbarnett8412 Refraction, BY DEFINITION, will have distortion. There is none here. STOP including refraction in every debunking of flat earth. It's not common! It's rare. The "science" guys always do this...smh...
@@williamcurrry5746 "Refraction, BY DEFINITION, will have distortion."
Distortion, like refraction, varies.
"There is none here."
You have no geometrically perfect image to compare these shots to. " It's rare. " Nope. GAS, especially in a pressure gradient refracts. Fact of life.
@@williamcurrry5746 "The "science" guys always do this...smh..."
Because they are skilled in the topic? Sure. It explains views that people Iie about online, because they think it's ok to Iie for religion.
Flat as a tack. Thanks, JT!
Great job! What an amazing view of our obviously flat realm.
Amazing footage my friend! Keep up the good work and the truth!! 🙏
YOU are the best JTolan! I’m proud to call you a neighbor and friend. Look me up when you want to take the boat out to the Channel Islands where I live. We’ll do some flat smacking, IR of Anacapa and Santa Cruz Islands, and whale watching! Last Sunday I had five humpbacks 🐋 surrounding my boat just playing! Amazing.
thanks, I have not been out to the channel islands yet but I have to go one of these days. So the whales are back? I guess this is the time. I saw them down in Mexico around December time frame few years ago, so neat to watch.
@@jtolanmedia1 I left a comment earlier, but it appears to have been filtered, even though I specifically avoided leaving a link.
Take a look at my channel for the recent "Question for JTolan Media1" upload. I'm replying here on this thread just on the hope you'll see this and YT won't filter it into oblivion.
We love your infrared footage
Good stuff JT! I love the laboratory where you conduct experiments.
except he didn't
@@michaeldunlavey6015 He has. Look at his entire body of work and he said he'd follow up in another video with measurements and explanations. This is like a trailer or teaser.
@@emirfaslic5676 I've looked at all of them for the last couple years. His major thing is to use IR filters to cut haze and show the horizon. That's a really good thing. Everything else he says is pure wish, smothered in dubious math and lots of "shocking!" He NEVER uses his famous theodolite with IR filter to actually measure horizon dip angle, which is the easiest thing to measure, and which FE says is zero, while GE says is square root of height in kilometers. And he's not alone. I can't find one single FEer willing to measure it. They either beat around the bush on it, or pretend they didn't hear about it.
@@michaeldunlavey6015 well, I appreciate the experiments and the results. Tests like these made me invest in cameras to be able to see the shores of Iran from Bahrain. I don't know what else to say, but do not trust ANYTHING from some guys on the internet. Do the tests yourself as much as possible. I didn't bring a bunch of levels or lasers or anything, and I'm not claiming to know what is right, but what was presented to me was wrong in almost every way. I'm looking forward to the next video.
@@emirfaslic5676 If you want to be scientific, it's not about "them", it's about You. The first thing you have to do is say "How do I know I'm not fooling myself?"
Thanks for these videos man You are a scholar & hero sir. Namaste From Groningen Nederland.
Earth a ball? LMFAO 😂
Nhaaaaaa...and drinking milkshakes upside down in Australia lol.
@@colingr318 There isn't an Australia on our plane Earth.
Keep up the great work brother!
NICE Share!! That's about in-sane (UN-sane)!!! Can't believe there's THAT many containers just WAITING to be unloaded... ???
I used to work on the ships as a merchant mariner. Valdez to long Beach. Nice video as always. Thanks Tolan.
Absolutely stunning as always.
Nice to see how flat and how mush empty space there is.
Does anyone know if Wolfie6020 has done any IR footage from his high and mighty altitude? I wouldn't know I DON'T WATCH HIS CHANNEL!!!!!
However I do remember reading in a comment that he said he was going to IR it up when our good man here Mr. J. Tolan started these IR shoots.
Very good work JT, love your videos👍
@@winstonwolfe340
Are you TELLING me he hasn't done an IR shoot from his HIGH and MIGHTY altitude⁉️
YES or NO will do or write nothing to Opt out completely
@whinger wolf🐺
😂😭😂🤣
@@nofanfare7426 he's far too dishonest to present anything that won't appeal to his biased Jesuit-trained narrative.
He had a video some years back, taken from about 40,000 feet. He CLAIMED the sun had set in it, because it had rendered into a very tiny speck, but it was actually still perfectly visible. I actually pointed that out to him and his shill-budddies, so instead of admitting his mistake, he simply blocked me from commenting on his channel. Which suits me just fine. Why would I want to enhance the viewing content of a blatant liar's channel?
@@IronHorse1722
No need to tell me about him being a liar😂😭😂🤣
He?🤔 And his mate Good Golly miss Wa11y did a hit on me saying I was nuts and obsessed with him😂 I totally creamed him and exposed his filthy lies with snaps of my video wall and comments on my channel and his from the time. I saved those snaps 'cause I picked him as patalogical from the get go "AND I WAS RIGHT".
@@IronHorse1722 How about YOU go up to 9km (anybody can)? and level a ruler between opposite windows? It points at blue sky both ways. Now tell us it's pointing at the horizon both ways.
That's something YOU can do, or you can just "know" who's lying.
That was funny when he talked about your cringy voice!
That island is like 90 miles away!
Exactly, and the horizon is 96.
California has got to have one of the longest coastlines right? That may make good footage. We could easily compare that to the curvature of Google Earth.
@divergent droid what slope did u calculate per km at 0 height? I got 0.009deg...u?
See "too far" is the ultimate globe-killer. 😎👍
From 6144' the horizon is 96 miles (not counting refraction). Are you saying he saw beyond that?
@@michaeldunlavey6015 Are you saying you have a physical horizon?
@@rocketspushoffair Yes, but we only see the apparent horizon. Refraction can also cause objects to disappear bottom up before they reach the apparent horizon on certain conditions.
@@halfhumanhalfzombie no, sorry, that's been completely debunked, you can't have both, you have NEVER measured a physical horizon and you NEVER WILL, because there is no curve 😎👍
@@rocketspushoffair Don't assume the consequent. What you need to say is "there is no curve because ...", not "... because there is no curve".
Thank you for all the work you put into these priceless videos. The real world is much more exiting then some rock spinning in” space”…👊😎
I don't see how you dont have over a million subscribers. Your the first I've seen to produce images like this.
maybe because I have not given youtube any money to promote my videos? This channel is about the truth, not necessarily about popularity or money or whatever, Here we can get a good feel for how many true flat earth believers there are (at least the ones with youtube accounts) or those that are curious enough from a scientific point of view to tolerate my whispers! hahaha , and there are quite a few of those based on the comments they leave. And that's ok, all are welcome. Geodesy is the science of the earth, and we have a lot of work to do to overturn centuries of erroneous ideas. :)
@@jtolanmedia1 I also like your channel because it doesn't get polluted with debate. Maybe it's ok for now you dont have a large audience. Some people get hung up on theory, idea's and opinions that can be hard to get over.
@@AnonymousAnonymous-sk5qz "polluted with debate." Seriously?
You don't like open discussion of your belief system? In case what? You learn the a few million ACTUAL skilled people don't agree with the claims in the videos?
Considering refracción ( given by 2.68*10^(-8) units per meter in the refractive Index ) , then the horizont is given by:
D = 3.92*√(h+0.1H)+4.11*√(H)
Where:
h : Heigth of the observer ( in meters )
H: Hidden Heigth (in meters )
D : in kilometers
Then with 6140 ft of heigth, the horizont is at 170km whih is more than 100miles
But they will still all bumble about pretending the video is "amazing" because that's what they are meant to do.
I hope the rumors are false about human smuggling in those containers..they been out there a long time
Unless one has an apatite for Kimchi.
a sacrifice is a sacrifice?
Thank you from Perth Australia. wish I could get this with my p900 :/ no infra red though
You're in Perth? How far is it to Sydney?
From what I understand in another video (in flight) it's just the matter of buying a filter...
once you figure out the curve only exists in the math, take a look at vibes of cosmos.
This is beautiful!
You have a great channel as well!
Hopefully people will check it!
@@labbeaj Thank you!
It is beautiful. The globe predicts it perfectly.
@@michaeldunlavey6015 🤣😂😅
Wow..incredible footage
what camera setup do you work with?
The truth is so simple and Amazing, compared to the adversary who is the author of confusion and the lies of this world. Great video, short, sweet & complete! Thanks!!
Thoughts on ....project penlan
Hello. Dis you noticed there IS a flying thing at 1.27m when you start to Zoom in in infrared ! In the midle of the sky. Any Idea of what this IS ?
What was that at 3:55 flying across the screen?
Wow! Great job. Miss your videos.
You are doing Great work....Thank you So Much......
As someone who was actually on the same ship as Travis Walton during those days I just wanted to declare you people are doing just fine, everything is a lie obviously but the liars are not going to shine ever again. J Tolan I sure would like to have lunch with you before I die dude and I don't think that is too much to ask for a loyal audience member who has done his best to make you famous. If only people knew how little time we have left you might take me seriously. As always and once again you nailed it and smashed the prevailing trailing dangling broken theory based on bullshit. Catalina is what 60 miles off shoar isn't it? I haven't been for 40 years but we did break down one day just offshoar, I hope you are having a great day my friend.
Peace
Sizzlean
The only liars are Tolan and those who have fallen for his crap, hook, line and sinker
Just amazing, thanks for sharing my bro.. Greetings from Chile flat 2021....
100 miles is not really "too far away" right? Anyway, very nice video! I was thinking that if you are there, you could try to look from somewhere in long beach or rancho palos verdes to Biosphere Reserve El Vizcaino in Baja California. That could be absolutely spectacular! All the best for you!!!
So how do all those vessels sail from China to LA on your map of Pancakia? Around Siberia?
The same way the Japanese did when they bombed Pearl Harbor.
looks flat because earth IS flat!
@JTolan Media 1, at that distance and elevation, please tell us how much would be hidden if the earth were spheroid.
Awesome! And this is why there is a shortage of supplies. Because the ships are not unloaded
Where is that shot from?
It is very simple, the numbers do not add up, if using spherical geometry.
Can you give us the exact position of your observation point, in order to know its height, and calculate the Hidden ???
find the town of Rimforest on a map and Strawberry peak is right there, about 6100 feet above MSL. I"m sure you're aware that there is refraction (and haze) that limits our view, so what may look like the horizon, might not be, even in infrared we have this problem, so shallow angle measurements are not reliable in computing the shape of the earth. For that we need photogrammetry, Lidar, or SAR. happy calculating ... :)
The map says 6144'. The 8" formula (2/3 foot) says h = 2/3 d^2 or d = sqrt(3/2 h) = 96 miles to the water horizon. The drop angle is a = 1.01*sqrt(6144/3280) = 1.38°
@@jtolanmedia1 Thank you for the info. I am not an expert in calculus.
I am French, and I calculated the Hidden in meters.
So I have eye level = 1872 meters
Maximum target distance = 180 kilometers
I find a Hidden = 51.20 meters
It is a weak Hidden, my your images speak volumes.
Otherwise, I invite you to look at the world record for long distance photography, set in France.
Chaine = Nouvelle Géographie PLANétaire (HIDDEN World Record Low Altitude FLAT EARTH)
Observe = 2,227 feet / 979 meters
Distance = 325 miles / 523.79 km
HO = 69.40 miles / 111.69 km
HI = 43,680 feet / 13.31 km
@@michaeldunlavey6015 Thank you very much for your excellent calculations.
I am using the Earth Curve Calculator site to calculate the Hidden.
You didn't mention the refractive index, typical flattie.
Thank you for showing the unbiased truth.
Always fabulous videos JT.
I’ve missed you.
Is he using a Nikon p900?
Well done again, and remember guys where ever you're the earth is always ___________________________________
Sure, and Australia is wider than the US. ____________________________ says so.
So glad you are back at making your content.
Flat
Some people get it, some people will get it someday, and most of the people will never get it.
‘It’s obvious he put this on the computer and straightened the curve using a lasso tool of some sort.’
@@darkemperor418 I couldn't make it up better myself.
@@darkemperor418My dog also loves the Lassie tool.
Some people will get it someday that Australia is wider than the US. Some people will get it someday that although the sun is 10,000 miles away and 3,000 miles high, it disappears at night. etc. etc.
Why wouldn't you see the ships from there?
The elevation of that look out is 6135 ft with those ships being 65 miles away.
Do you want to do the maths?
You gotta do a zoom on Catalina island!!!
Sir you give us the eyes to see and through you we see the truth. God bless!
Nice and horizontal…👍
How do you think ,the earth is flat?
11-10 news: A record 111 container ships are floating off California's busiest ports, despite Biden's 24/7 schedule and looming fines. Shipping firms have three days to move containers if their next step is by rail, or nine days if the next step is by truck. (links below)
Here in Algeria we believe also it's flat don't think you are alone
Awesome stuff as always, Jay. Take Care. Jesus loves you
JTOLAN, thank you so much 🙏 beautiful flat asf 💚🎉
That’s crazy. My goodness.
nice localised sun hotspot at 2:18 as well
Goes to an observatory to prove we live on Pancakia. Funny funny funny. Now I know you're trolling. Found any secret maps of Pancakia on those ships yet? I want one!
Awesome teacher
What’s the elevation of the hill you are on? Looking down at the water level does not prove flat earth. Try it from sea level
Great photography of the local suns reflection on the earth
No puedo entender bien ya que no está subtitulado pero los veo igual, son buenísimos! Por ejemplo no entiendo que es lo que ven. / I can not understand well since it is not subtitled but I see them same, they are great! For example I do not understand what they see.
great work JTolan!
Обалденно! Справа палки торчат это острова на 240 км, да ?
Part of me misses home brother but i know the family's better off here in OK.
Wow! Where's the curvature of the Earth???
If you zoom in you won't see it. You could zoom in on a bowling ball and it would look flat. So that would "prove" that bowling balls are flat?
@@michaeldunlavey6015
The simple fact you can zoom on that far pretty much disproves the curvature
@@redpillscholar560 Sure. It disproves the curvature of the bowling ball.
Респект автору от братишек из России ! Мы тут тоже потихоньку догоняем что к чему !
Amazing 👏 thanks for sharing 👣
simply beautiful.. thanks!..
Why don't you take an infrared over lake Michigan from Chicago to Michigan I love to see that
I dig your accent
It's a good one.
the port of oakland is empty
Un abrazo terraplanista desde Lima-Perú
So this is the cause that prices are rising very bad
Amazing keep going bro awake all the ppl !!!
Great job, thanks
flat and beautiful
GREAT JOB
👍Лайк #1
The new year coming will be the tipping point!! Big, Tense things will be happening concerning this Flat Plane!!
Is this like all the world-ending dates that occurred over the last century?
@@michaeldunlavey6015 LOL... jokes.... Thanks for bringing that up! The Aztec Calendar-- how do we take that -- folklore or fact? Those who tout authority of "facts" do have mastery over years of regurgitated info. The basic original "premise" for the research comes back to the bottom line: what is taught and learned is based on presumed, off-base "knowledge". If the "Columbus" story is what it is, then how the f'ing hell are they able to navigate when the constellations would be constantly and unpredictably changing? "Authorities" said it's FACT and accept it. with the Foo Flu and the vax, "authorities' and experts are at odds!! So... back to "2012", fact or prank? I see Flat Earth getting an incredible, out of nowhere resurgence that will threaten belief paradigms governments and "authorities" are not ready to handle. My bad for lengthy reply...