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  • @miriam8376
    @miriam8376 Год назад +8638

    Having to pass 1000 captchas for only 30 cents sounds like an actual level of hell.

  • @Likeanycommentator
    @Likeanycommentator Год назад +3228

    “You passed by exhibiting incompetence at every turn” I love it!

  • @randomdogdog
    @randomdogdog Год назад +9119

    My favourite thing to do with recaptcha is not click the box. Anywhere near the box counts as an attempt, so you still get through.

    • @resolecca
      @resolecca Год назад +656

      That's never worked for me

  • @nirfz
    @nirfz Год назад +3034

    A friend of mine did the opposite for his website, he made a box he humans don't see, so only the bots click the box.

  • @josiah42
    @josiah42 Год назад +14420

    First half of the video: "Yay they solved an accessibility problem and made the world better". Second half: "Oh... Oh no, this is so much worse."

    • @babybirdhome
      @babybirdhome Год назад

      I work in cybersecurity and privacy, and it’s honestly a pretty mixed bag. On the one hand, you’re absolutely right - this is so much worse. On the other hand, you wouldn’t be able to use the internet without this today - there is too much fraud and cybercrime, and it’s largely because of complex tools like this that actually keeps any of your information actually secure, while also keeping the services that you actively use or even pay to use available for you to be able to use.
      As an example, one of the ways my organization protects your (colloquial “your” - I have no idea if you use our services or not, and I don’t want to know either) personal accounts, information, and the monetary value our users store in their accounts is by using things like Google’s reCAPTCHA to help prevent hackers using botnets to break into them because users (or roughly 30-35% of them) are notoriously awful at using secure passwords. A few years ago, it used to be super easy to spot hackers trying to get into people’s accounts and steal their information or their money from them. It was very obvious in the logs, and ordinary log monitoring and alerting was sufficient to identify attacks and shut them down easily.
      Today, it’s not so simple, and the bad guys have improved at a terrifying pace in the last 3-4 years - in part because cybercrime has become a multi-billion dollar a year organized industry today. The good guys just don’t have the resources to keep up without advanced tools like these that rely on intensive and kind of invasive data analysis techniques like reCAPTCHA 3 (“I am not a robot”) and many others that are similarly complex and involved but require enormous deep data analysis capabilities. Here’s an example of what we’ve been able to do in the last few years, and how much harder it is to keep you guys safe online today. Four years ago, we would be able to identify a malicious attack against our users’ accounts within an hour of them starting - and those attacks were big, fast, and loud. They’d typically involve 2-3 times the volume of activity that’s normal for a 24 hour period all occurring within one hour - and not always even a busy hour.
      Today, with the more advanced analysis we’re doing of the data we have available, we’ve been able to shift that left to the point where we can now identify a “low and slow” attack in which an attacker may only be attempting to get into 4-5 accounts across an entire 24 hour period, with a single malicious access attempt, in which each account’s single access attempt happens from a different IP address. A few years ago, an attack this organized and sophisticated would’ve been invisible to us, and we never would’ve known it was happening, and our users who were compromised would only find out when their money was gone or their information was used to do something they didn’t have anything to do with. Today, we’re able to identify these tiny attacks with over 95% accuracy, and are able to prevent any monetary losses even for our users who have terrible password hygiene and do nothing to secure their own accounts. We still can’t prevent those users’ information from being stolen, but that’s because they basically park a running Ferrari in the middle of the highest auto theft neighborhood in the middle of the night with the engine running and the door open while they go watch a movie at the theater. But we CAN usually protect their monetary value in their accounts by spotting the malicious activity almost the instant it occurs and get their account locked down before any harm can be done to it.
      None of that would be possible without doing that deep data analysis and keeping track of the information that allows us to tell the difference between a real user and a hacker trying to steal from a real user.

    • @WarrenMarshallBiz
      @WarrenMarshallBiz Год назад +429

      Exactly. I feel a little sick, actually...

    • @luketurner314
      @luketurner314 Год назад +183

      This made me think of Bruce Banner (the Hulk) on the helicarrier in the first Avengers movie, "Really? They want me in a submerged, pressurized metal container? Oh no, this much worse"

    • @KohaAlbert
      @KohaAlbert Год назад +130

      And its even worse - it is and always has been possible to design a bot which imitates a human, and successfully can pass the Turing test (it's a cheat if you do it by design, but it works - most typical downside being time, which means costs) : and those kind of bots are better in it than humans as well ...

    • @elenna_alexia
      @elenna_alexia Год назад +319

      As a rule, new tech just tends to make things worse cause the incentive is to create profit for shareholders, not improve the world. There's no money in simply improving the world and money is what we structured our entire societies around. They just try to do it in ways that people will just accept as how things are. Give corporations permission to fully surveil you? Sure, that's better than any slight inconvenience, right? It doesn't have to be like this, but few things do.

  • @richardblair3021
    @richardblair3021 Год назад +8264

    Ah, so this explains why I have to complete so many image recognition tests in succession. I’m actually a robot- thanks Google!

    • @jschreiber6461
      @jschreiber6461 Год назад +385

      Same here. Do them slooooowly. Robots are fast with images. Humes are slow & clumsy

    • @MadScientist267
      @MadScientist267 Год назад +299

      Some of them were for training AI. Nobody thinks about the ways this takes place at this level.
      You might remember having to go thru 2 layers of these for something at one point. One was the actual robot trap, the other was training AI on something it didn't understand elsewhere. Maps used it for example to get house numbers interpreted.

    • @lizvtaz6
      @lizvtaz6 Год назад +97

      Happens to me from time to time. Maybe I should move my mouse differently. I think I movey mouse in a straight line

    • @thePyiott
      @thePyiott Год назад +196

      It also helps train googles image recognition AI. Free labor yay!

  • @AllanGoodall
    @AllanGoodall Год назад +1960

    This explains why Google has gotten very annoying at using check boxes when you browse in private mode. And why you have to solve CAPTCHA-like "check all the buses/crosswalks/cars" tests if you use your phone, as they don't have mouse movement to track.

  • @pvc988
    @pvc988 Год назад +2123

    So that's why it fails so often for me. I use tracking protection. Google deems tracking protection a bad thing it seems.

    • @enadegheeghaghe6369
      @enadegheeghaghe6369 Год назад +259

      You say you use tracking protection but can we believe you? Are you sure you are not a bot? LOL

    • @noseboop4354
      @noseboop4354 Год назад

      Google makes money tracking and selling your info. If you block that, then google blocks you.

    • @serialistic4321
      @serialistic4321 Год назад +222

      Well of course, ads and web trackers is how Google makes money

    • @Yellowfruit65
      @Yellowfruit65 Год назад

      No, they don't deem it as a bad thing. They just can't tell if you are a real human or a bot without additional information, so they gave you more tests to gather those additional information to confirm that you are a human. Ask yourself what is worse: having Google to give a few more tests to prove yourself, or not having Google to give additional tests and risking bots successfully pretending to be human which may have a huge impact on our future

    • @hcxpl1
      @hcxpl1 Год назад

      Yeah, I mean, at this point it isnt even about bots and they know it - They just want to impede people from acessing things without giving their souls away to Google

  • @titaniummechanism3214
    @titaniummechanism3214 Год назад +3151

    Very well done, easily understandable and engaging. And you managed to enlighten some people about big techs data hoarding habits, which can't be repeated often enough.

  • @NoName-ik2du
    @NoName-ik2du Год назад +451

    Well...that went from kind of neat to horribly creepy _really_ fast.

  • @davidfarmbroughrealtor
    @davidfarmbroughrealtor Год назад +849

    What Lou failed to mention is that CAPTCHAs used to have a very practical side-effect. They would help digitise old texts. The public could look at a piece of scanned text that bots were unable to digitise, and would give the correct letters. Or, eight out of ten people would, and the computer would reject the two wrong answers and consider that piece of text digitised!

    • @scalylayde8751
      @scalylayde8751 Год назад +152

      now they're used to help train the AI that steals artists' hard work instead

    • @MrXPeaceLP
      @MrXPeaceLP Год назад +48

      I think at least with the images from traffic, it was made so that some of the images shown had preexisting information on which squares are correct, and then there was another pictures shown with which you would train an AI to for example look for zebra crossings.

  • @Joost.
    @Joost. Год назад +824

    The captcha's where you have to identify pictures or part of pictures are also used for services like google maps. You always have to select items that generally exist in traffic and after the captcha proves that you are in fact a human you get one or two more tests. Those are tests where google's automated systems for example are not sure of wether it is a traffic light or not and once they know it is it gets updated to google maps. (obviously a simplified explanation but you get the point)

  • @bassmunk
    @bassmunk Год назад +22

    "assumes permission" the most important phrase in this whole video.

  • @michaelelkin9542
    @michaelelkin9542 Год назад +731

    The worst part is when the box does not work and neither do the pictures which are such low quality that I have no idea what I am looking for. Clearly Google punishing me for restricting my privacy settings.

    • @enadegheeghaghe6369
      @enadegheeghaghe6369 Год назад +40

      Are you sure you are not a bot? LOL

    • @kimcartoon69
      @kimcartoon69 Год назад +26

      Now that makes more sense since i have stoped google from everywere

    • @noseboop4354
      @noseboop4354 Год назад +73

      Google makes their money tracking and selling all your info. You didn't really think google would offer you all these free services out of the goodness of their heart, did you?

    • @phueal
      @phueal Год назад +36

      This happens to me too, since I switch off cookies almost everywhere. It's especially bad in incognito mode. Guess this explains it!

  • @geshtu1760
    @geshtu1760 Год назад +1468

    I have always said that someday the captcha will be inverted such that only robots will be able to pass, thereby locking humans out of their world...

  • @xygomorphic44
    @xygomorphic44 Год назад +126

    I miss the days when all you had to do was click the button. Now it's 10 rounds of "select all images taken on Tuesday"

  • @komentierer
    @komentierer Год назад +270

    Great video, I didn't expect an explanation of captchas to be so entertaining

  • @vinitvsankhe
    @vinitvsankhe Год назад +4

    You passed the captcha by showing incompetence at every step. This line summarises, humanity, like forever.

  • @paoloose
    @paoloose Год назад +223

    Very educational and fun to watch, good job

  • @shiina_mahiru_9067
    @shiina_mahiru_9067 Год назад +323

    I absolutely hate the "traffic light test" because I can never understand its logic as well. The one using crosswalk is also an absolute nightmare because I failed the majority of the time. (I click on every individual square that contains even the tiniest amount of white stripe visible to human eyes and it is still wrong!) Whenever I clicked on the checkbox and the test pops up, I always like, "it is going to be an endurance then". As a VPN user, that can be annoying, as you might be forced to do that before your search result pops out.

  • @VancedYouTube-y4b
    @VancedYouTube-y4b Год назад +264

    reCaptha is a perfect example of Google Being Google

  • @martareitmajer
    @martareitmajer Год назад +14

    Because they’re just so honest they can’t lie.

  • @MegaLokopo
    @MegaLokopo Год назад +98

    You forgot to mention that all versions of captcha are using the data collected to train robots to complete the same tests.

  • @rikdownunda
    @rikdownunda Год назад +47

    PMSL !
    Very funny "Is that even a F$#KING letter?"
    I fail that test all the time.
    🤣🤣🤣

  • @ihateunicorns867
    @ihateunicorns867 Год назад +366

    I wish captchas didn't use objects that only exist in America like fire hydrants, "crosswalks", and American buses. I don't know what a f*cking American bus or "crosswalk" looks like. What even is a "crosswalk"? In my country it's when you need to go outside for a bit to calm down because you're angry.

  • @montesclarosmyrna7964
    @montesclarosmyrna7964 10 месяцев назад +5

    0:32 "Is That Even A ?!#@ing letter?!"

  • @little_fluffy_clouds
    @little_fluffy_clouds Год назад +60

    It’s not impossible to devise an algorithm to randomise mouse cursor movements as it moves towards a target, so I think checking the browser history is pretty much mandatory

  • @wombatdk
    @wombatdk Год назад +149

    Explains why i never get past them. Sites that employ them are inaccessible. NoScript means no mouse tracking. The picture puzzles work, but they never end and just keep adding new "challenges". Nowadays when I see such a captcha I close the tab.

    • @HansLemurson
      @HansLemurson Год назад +42

      You did not allow Google to peer into your soul...and this is its revenge.

    • @a64738
      @a64738 Год назад +14

      Yes as many webpages the captcha is broken and you can sit for hours in endless loop of captchas...

  • @mike1024.
    @mike1024. Год назад +46

    Excellent video! Informative without being long winded, short without losing meaning. Saying something concisely yet entertains us too? Perfect.

  • @Pikestnt
    @Pikestnt Год назад +64

    Excellent video.
    Interesting, entertaining and only as long as it needed to be. 👍

  • @we1592610
    @we1592610 Год назад +57

    good explanation and great humor that aren't over the top!

  • @counterleo
    @counterleo Год назад +63

    You forgot something! You posted this in 2023, so you know nowadays more than half of Web traffic is mobile phones, and guess what? Mobiles have no mouse movements, only a tap directly on the checkbox! So there's only the timing and the coordinates where the hit lands on the checkbox to make the pre-determination. Is this why we are more and more often asked to select images?

    • @kenc2257
      @kenc2257 Год назад +8

      I don't allow my robots to have mobile phones...

    • @ShawnC22002
      @ShawnC22002 Год назад +5

      My thought exactly. As I watched this I kept thinking… what about tablets and phones, which is almost exclusively what I use and where I do these tests? Obviously there must be more to it.

    • @SteveMacSticky
      @SteveMacSticky Год назад +7

      The main function is the Google looking at browsing historyand other criteria human operated browsers do while browsing, not so much the click or mouse travel.

    • @CornyBum
      @CornyBum Год назад +3

      Interesting point, but I suspect the touch screen sends and tracks more data than just a single functional tap. After all, it's already calibrated to discriminate between something like your fingertip and the heel of your palm, right?

    • @bermchasin
      @bermchasin Год назад +4

      I dont see why a bot couldnt be programmed to take a route that mimicks a humans.

  • @orange42
    @orange42 Год назад +31

    Her voice is perfect... too perfect...

  • @ssam478
    @ssam478 10 месяцев назад +1

    Wow, your video was the most entertaining way to learn new things. Very informative. Thank you.

  • @EminAnimE1
    @EminAnimE1 Год назад +25

    This was actually interesting. Good work!

  • @Psoewish
    @Psoewish Год назад +16

    This was both informative and funny, which is the best combo.

  • @LFTRnow
    @LFTRnow Год назад +44

    So now the bots just have to do some random searching (and some not so random) plus add some fractal and/or random mouse moves and timing and away they go again.

  • @circusitch
    @circusitch Год назад +5

    Well done video. Informative and entertaining at the same time, without being long and drawn out. A rarity.

  • @NathanHaaren
    @NathanHaaren Год назад +164

    Robots can check that box, but if they have to check that box often then it results in an image recognition test
    I've automated different bots that checked this box, but usually after running it for 10 minutes it isnt enough anymore to just check the box.

  • @devinw6332
    @devinw6332 Год назад +14

    Loved: the educational and comical nature
    Disloved: being reminded I’m being watched 24/7

  • @itsprivate3061
    @itsprivate3061 Год назад +58

    so are you honestly telling me, noone can design a capcha click button that does movements at random to simulate human idiocy? is that what we doing here?

  • @PacoOtis
    @PacoOtis Год назад +16

    Excellently written and presented! Thanks for sharing!

  • @andreasjoannai6441
    @andreasjoannai6441 Год назад +8

    2:52 It was at this moment that everything started going haywire.

  • @alexanderhay7358
    @alexanderhay7358 Год назад +2

    "you passed by exhibiting incompetence at every turn" - is my new favorite phrase

  • @mk1st
    @mk1st Год назад +17

    I thing the bigger crime is people getting only $1 for doing it 1000 times. WTF!

  • @niranjanr8075
    @niranjanr8075 Год назад +22

    It’s amazing that reCAPTCHA considered the imperfections in humans to track robots. Seems cool for some reason

  • @JohnSmith-qe6fb
    @JohnSmith-qe6fb Год назад +3

    God damn, I must have a really steady hand because I ALWAYS have to find the damn sidewalk!

  • @robertnewell5057
    @robertnewell5057 Год назад +1

    Now that is one of the best explanatory vids I've seen. Detailed and funny. Brilliant

  • @fahrenheit6693
    @fahrenheit6693 Год назад +12

    Amazing explanation, thank you

  • @Odihmantich
    @Odihmantich Год назад +1

    I wonder how a robot’s search history looks like 😂😅

  • @Peter_1986
    @Peter_1986 Год назад +16

    I hate those stupid image tests;
    I always get some object that has literally like one pixel on one square, and I am never sure if I am supposed to click that square or not.

  • @Mysteria9
    @Mysteria9 Год назад +28

    It's equally scary and brilliant.

  • @Blabbermouth-w5w
    @Blabbermouth-w5w Год назад +12

    It is so easy now to reprogram a robot to employ the randomize timer option to insert deviations from that straight line and to reduce the effectiveness of recognition. Thanks for giving the bot makers a clear path to now thwart captcha. Brilliant.

  • @6xsavs
    @6xsavs Год назад +2

    Captcha Bypass still works

  • @tunnfisk
    @tunnfisk Год назад +22

    I don't have any vision impairments, but those text and number puzzles are such a hassle. The same goes for clicking the images. I have to do 10 of them before I'm accepted. As for the box checking, you can easily macro human mouse movements and click the box. The browser history I'm sure can be spoofed. Am curious how it does against private browsers with tracking blockers.

  • @SylviusTheMad
    @SylviusTheMad Год назад +9

    The new reCAPTCHA tests are a really good way to determine how well your browser protects your privacy. A properly private browser will fail reCAPTCHA, because it doesn't give the test enough information to determine whether you are human.

  • @tylerbakeman
    @tylerbakeman Год назад +48

    The check box mouse-movement test is easy to get around as well: just add noise to the mouse movement, while still landing on the check box - which is super easy to do.
    The site test.. why would one need to automate sites anyhow - but the solution is probably to queue random solution searches.
    Those curvy letters will be the death of me as a human person though.

  • @nutherefurlong
    @nutherefurlong Год назад

    "Is that even a f***ing letter?!" Made my day

  • @mrfish9876
    @mrfish9876 Год назад +5

    This really represents the advancement in computing over the last couple of decades. To summarise:
    In the early days it confirmed you were human by seeing if you were smarter than a bot.
    Now it confirms you're human by seeing if you're dumber than a bot. 😂

  • @fritz46
    @fritz46 10 месяцев назад +1

    Hmmm... I almost always get the traffic light or motor bike pictures. I guess I'm an efficient mouse mover.

  • @AEGISAOE
    @AEGISAOE Год назад +4

    1:30 i move my mouse in perfect straight line, lol

  • @Solatso
    @Solatso Год назад

    "I Think I see a dolphin!" HAHAHAHA, just perfect!

  • @mondotv4216
    @mondotv4216 Год назад +77

    Excellent production values, script and even passable acting 😂. Well done.

  • @Thelisreal-sh3tz
    @Thelisreal-sh3tz Год назад +1

    This makes so much sense, I just need to make sure to stop moving in a straight line whenever I solve a captcha.

  • @lazyreviewssupport9811
    @lazyreviewssupport9811 Год назад +5

    0:46 😂magic 🧝‍♂️ eye 👁‍🗨... 😅🐬 Dolohins

  • @sevay
    @sevay Год назад +1

    rip people who have an ocd of always moving the mouse in a straight line

  • @hambernat6444
    @hambernat6444 Год назад +12

    Very informative, quite entertaining and tightly packed. Good work 🦶

  • @Somm_RJ
    @Somm_RJ Год назад +2

    Her voice is soothing.

  • @Ajvngou
    @Ajvngou Год назад +9

    Great video! I am not a robot.

  • @seniorcreations
    @seniorcreations Год назад

    That "later humans" line freaked the hell outta me!

  • @JfromUK_
    @JfromUK_ Год назад +95

    Well explained. Regarding the box, I thought it was something like this, which is why I often find myself delaying / taking a circuitous route so it doesn't seem suspiciously robotic. I still get the picture stuff though.
    Interesting to hear about the history tracking, and the reason you don't see wobbly text anymore. I believe that was a dual-purpose feature to help digitise books that image processing had failed to do well, but as it explains, that's now so much better than humans so it makes sense that it's been scrapped!

  • @iusearchbtw4969
    @iusearchbtw4969 Год назад +1

    That ending tho, i'm not expected that kind of thing

  • @gnm280
    @gnm280 Год назад +6

    This video is actually pretty good.

  • @M_IAWIA
    @M_IAWIA Год назад

    Got the image test today and instantly thought about this video. I'm impressed by my skill of moving my mouse in a straight line.

  • @cripnikka86
    @cripnikka86 Год назад +10

    2:09 wth so all these years google knew that I've been searching p0rn on a daily basis?!!

  • @klapekzagady2078
    @klapekzagady2078 Год назад +2

    I feel like a bot, I once had to do 7 recaptchas in a row

  • @TheLinkoln18
    @TheLinkoln18 Год назад +12

    Ahh, I fail these captchas all the time, so less accuracy might help…. 😂

  • @ImARealHumanPerson
    @ImARealHumanPerson Месяц назад +1

    A lot of people commenting without even watching the video and it shows 😅
    They saw the title and got mad lmao

  • @storiesofblum
    @storiesofblum Год назад +5

    ❤ thanks for the knowledge

  • @Simmerany
    @Simmerany Год назад

    Lol. Love it. That plot twist at the end 😅

  • @saratbabumoka5396
    @saratbabumoka5396 Год назад +6

    Well, learned something today.

  • @MisterTrayser
    @MisterTrayser Год назад

    We need more videos of such format on youtube!

  • @so_dumbshu
    @so_dumbshu Год назад +10

    This was hilarious 😹

  • @itsmeskeluur
    @itsmeskeluur 10 месяцев назад

    Thank goodness these exist

  • @c.richardabbate742
    @c.richardabbate742 Год назад +3

    Hilarious, informative, and concise. A+ job!

  • @HannTheftAudio
    @HannTheftAudio Год назад

    Now that was an awesome PLOT TWIST!!!! WHERE THE HELL DO I GET ONE OF THOSE BOTS???🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @PVLTD
    @PVLTD Год назад +3

    After you spent an hour or more to locate where they hide those privacy pages to click on those options that said not to track or share, and then few weeks later, they sent an update to upgrade to a newer version. So you have to go through the same process again and again whenever there’s an update, which until one day, you would say, take whatever you want.

  • @nyhhui
    @nyhhui Год назад +1

    Why is no one talking about the fact that they check your browser history...

  • @Zerpersande
    @Zerpersande Год назад +4

    2:59
    Look!
    It’s Santa!

  • @MurrayFCohen
    @MurrayFCohen Год назад +1

    so fascinating. Always wondered how it worked

  • @KhalidAun1
    @KhalidAun1 Год назад +3

    Thank you RUclips for recommending this fantastic video that educates and is precise well done 👏

  • @cat80814
    @cat80814 Год назад +1

    Yeah, this is scarier than I thought it’d be

  • @extendedp1
    @extendedp1 Год назад +3

    This was a great video. Tons of relevant info related to the title of the video, presented in an entertaining manner. Good job robot.

  • @JhonPereda
    @JhonPereda Год назад

    This video was funnier than I expected it to be. Well done.

  • @kumaragurusubramanian581
    @kumaragurusubramanian581 Год назад +7

    How this works on touchphones btw

  • @seanperdue232
    @seanperdue232 Год назад

    This humor in this video is fantastic! 😊

  • @izakaya0
    @izakaya0 Год назад +6

    1:25 but how about smartphone? Touchscreen? There is no cursor to track

  • @OMIMreacts
    @OMIMreacts 5 месяцев назад

    the end was craaaaazy 😅😅

  • @JimBob1937
    @JimBob1937 Год назад +15

    While fairly technically accurate, it is missing a lot of the details that help answer some questions in the comments. It may use google account history as a flag of sorts, but from what I can tell as someone who has implemented it on their site, it primarily tracks you through the site you're on. The tracking script must be on the site for an extended period of time for them to be able to collect enough data to statistically define what is bot versus humans traffic on the site.

  • @hideri5700
    @hideri5700 Год назад +2

    that was a masterpiece