A321XLR vs 757: Can the XLR REALLY replace the Workhorse?
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- Опубликовано: 13 июл 2019
- This video is about Airbus A321XLR vs Boeing 757. The A321XLR vs the 757 has been a hot topic recently as many airlines are now looking to replace older B757 aircraft. Airbus claims the XLR can replace the 757 on many routes with its Xtra long range, but are they right? Watch this epic comparison to find out!!! Thanks for watching and if you like this video, Please hit the LIKE and SUBSCRIBE button and of course, stay tuned for more great comparisons and pure aircraft content on the way!!!
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Nothing will ever beat a 757 blasting out of a tiny island airport in the Med with a pair of RR RB211s howling at full throttle 👌🏻
Yeah, airbus, leave the 757s alone, your dumb A321XLRs stand no chance with it.
@@Ucayali267 actually the A321XLR is a great replacement for the 757. In fact, it the A321XLR can be flown on skinnier long haul routes than the 757, due to slightly less seats.
*757 is the best long live the plane*
@@Ucayali267 *yes fuck the a321xlrs*
*only rolls royce/rb211 for 757 nothing else*
The 757 was notorious for leaving a very turbulent wake, much stronger that expected for its size. This meant that it took up more than its slot in an airport because you couldn't land or launch a smaller plane in its wake for an extended period of time.
The wl version mitigated this
Not commpletely
I've long been a fan of the Boeing 757, it's the best single aisle aircraft they produced. It's the aircraft they should have kept alive and improved with newer technology, instead they kept the 1960's technology with the crappy 737 series. I'm a little hesitant to compare an older no longer manufactured aircraft to the new high tech aircraft. One thing we all need to remember is aircraft are only as good on performance as the engines that power them. Boeing and Airbus do not produce engines. I'm not putting my money on the proposed Boeing MMA just yet, the project could be seriously delayed due to all the issues Boeing has with their other models including the 777X project. Buy the time the MMA launches, the market could drastically change again and the need for this type of aircraft may not exist. Great video however.
Thailand Rose Your a very deep thinker
Thailand Rose - If the 737 were “crappy” Boeing would not have sold so many of them. Boeing builds what their customers want to buy. Boeing only sold about a thousand 757s. Not many by their standards.
@@GH-oi2jf
The 737 is,and was a good and successful design,until of course the MAX debacle.A clean sheet design is certainly needed,which could also be adapted as a 757 replacement. Is there truly a 757 replacement. I wonder....
@@GH-oi2jf Simple answer: Corporate Greed and Executive Bonus Checks, plus there is no other Boeing alternative. Sad case for what was a great company.
Thailand Rose - The 737 was upgraded a few times. The NG and MAX series are not 1960s technology.
The 757 will always be my favourite aircraft of all time!
Yes, I really wish that Boeing re designs it! It is also my favorite!
The fact that this plane is still flying after all these years says a lot about the longevity of the manufacturer the 757 is a great plane and a lot of the airlines are holding on to them to see what the 797 will offer
Boeing said they're restarting and reevaluating the 797, so it's unlikely they'll have anything to offer anytime soon.
@@Noah-ws8ho they are just selling the market to Airbus at this point.
"the 757 is a great plane and a lot of the airlines are holding on to them to see what the 797 will offer"
Sorry, Sir, but that's three errors in one half sentence.
(i) Aircraft are business tools, and as a business tool, the 757 hardly works anymore. Passenger experience on modern planes (namely the silent A320neo family) is much better, and costs are lower (less maintenance, much less fuel consumption).
(ii) There are (outside the freighter business) NO airlines that "hold on to them". AMERICAN has already put them to rest, UNITED has announced so, and both have ordered A321XLRs in numbers to officially replace them. DELTA has abstained from announcements, but set the fact, which is orders for (so far) 155 A321neos. ICELANDAIR will decide the replacement by years end, TUI has waved goodbye, CONDOR has emerged from the ashes and ordered A330neos to replace the sistership 767 first, which hints to a future all-Airbus policy. ARKIA, La Compagnie, all have switched to Airbus. What remains? "Trump Force One" springs to mind.
(iii) Nobody waits for the "797", which seems to be a stillborn and has been long recognized as such. DELTA have talked about it now and again, and ordered 'busses in the meantime. Boeing is in dire straits, they have lost a huge amount of their financial reserves and now must strictly prioritize what to do in development. What they need is a clean sheet successor of the 737. The recent loss of former all-B customer Jet2 was the writing on the wall.
@@sorin_ea6 their just sharing..Boeing makes other products too ya know
Does anyone know the name of tracks (the music) used in this video, especially the first one?
Really good video!
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Surely if the 757 burns 30% more fuel the XLR burns more then 30% less?
I don't think that's how this works.
If we take the 757 as base (100%) the 321XLR uses 70% now if we take 70% as new 100% than 30% of that 70% are ~43% meaning from the XLR point of few the 757 uses 43% more. If we flipp the secript and make the XLR the base 30% are ~23% to the now 130% the XLR uses making the XLR only 23% more efficient. Or did I screw this up?
oida10000 No, I think I agree with you and that was my point. Thanks
1/1.3 = 0.7692 ie 23% less.
Do you happen to have a list of the music used in this?
it's in the description
How can one even compare the planes? The 757 is obsolete and not even build any more while the A321XLR is a brand new upgrade.
True, but the 757 is an excellent performing aircraft in which airlines finally saw its value and has been a huge asset to any fleet. For their time they were efficient, had a decent capacity and pretty long range. They can do basically anything and are now being snatched up by cargo lines as quickly as they can get their hands on the things. It's a very relevant aircraft that with a re-engine has the potential to be a better option than the 321.
However, it is not possible for a re-engined 757 due to it being such a old aircraft, and Boeing needing to hire back the mechanics of the 757, and they will even need to create new wings for it. It is just not worth it. Hopefully the 797 would be better. If not, there is no way Boeing can compete with the A321XLR.
The 757-300 is longer than the A321XLR
MGS Aviation oh good!!! American Airlines should order 757-300s and they will be a perfect replacement for the 737 MAXs
The 321-XLR is far more fuel efficient than the ageing 757, and today it's the main issue...
which the video pointed out again, and again, and .... Only 1 minute of content
78Dipar: the 757-300 is longer than the A321XLR so the A321XLR won’t be a replacement for the 757-300
@@sebastianfloyd372 The issue isn't about the length of the plane but about its long range flights capabilities, and its fuel efficiency...
@@78Dipar the 757-300 is longer than the A321XLR so the A321XLR won’t be a replacement for the 757-300, there’s no plans to replace the 757-300
@@78Dipar Airbus should make A321XERs
A321LR/XLR hands down!
fucking duh the A321 XLR hasnt been build yet and the 757 was built in 1983 not much of a challenge
Are you an idiot? The 757 was developed in 1982 and the 321 more than 30 years later so it has all the advantages of the latest technology. Childish Airbus fanboy much?
@@MultiNaturalice isnt it ironic that you are calling him a fanboy. you are acting like a childish boeing fanboy.
@@sorin_ea6 Oh you clever boy. Sounds like you are another Airbis fanboy ypurself
MultiNaturalice you are simply proving yourself to be hypocritical the more you call people with opinions that are different from yours “Childish Airbus Fanboys”. It’s sad that you are so intolerant and sensitive to other people’s opinions. You can have your own opinion about the 757 and A321XLR blah blah thing you brought up. You can also criticize others opinions but not be complete hypocrite while doing so.
The 757s were available with PW2037s, 2040s, RB211-535E and -E4s producing either 37,000 lbf thrust or 40,000 lbf. The Pratts were more fuel efficient, but two spool designs that had vibration problems which required shock mounts. The Rolls were three-spool and far smoother and were hard-mounted to the strut.
I question the notion that interior pressures are lower on widebodies. Only the 787 to my knowledge has a lower cruise pressure due to the rigidity of its carbon fiber fuselage. A smaller tube is always more rigid than a larger one, and there doesn't seem to be any data to support the video's claim.
Holy crap! I thought this was a CNBC video when i clicked on it. Very well produced and organized. If I could give a piece of advice it would be to have a bit of a longer conclusion but that's all. Great Video!
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@@oneskyflyer The 757-300 is longer than the A321XLR so the A321XLR won’t be a replacement for the 757-300 but it will be a good replacement for the 737 MAXs
@@sebastianfloyd372 There are only about 30 757-300s Flying, for two operators that never ordered it. So there is basically no demand for a 757-300 replacement.
757 was never intended for large production numbers, with the 2b211 available in high thrust, it was supposed to cover hot and high aiprpots like Denver/La Paz, Toncantin, and various other places with short strips, heat , and high alts, at mtow..It was efficient enough to be used on domestic us routes from time to time as well, but it was this market niche that it was made for .
Turns out it was bone reliable, and a total beast that could out climb anything else, and short runway performance opened up smaller airports to jet travel in smaller cities, instead of passengers needing to go to hubs.. it climbs like an idiot, and as such can avoid weather other planes must go around, and has the range to make a profit on routes that don't fill a 767..
The planes great performance, go anywhere and make it out of smaller strips even on the hottest days, plus over built and sturdy (the 200 was anyways), speed and range found it soldiering on and in demand years after Boeing should have designed a replacement.. Either way this hot rod is making a come back. as long as fuel prices don't make a huge jump, fuel isn't the only factor in buying a plane.. 757 may very well pay better dividend's on some routes, the 321 neo is un tested, and a 757 wil low hours may well cost so much less than a new air bus, they will gladly eat the fuel cost until the 797 comes out.. besides , who know what kind of backroom deal Boeing will give them if they stay loyal to the brand, they still make money on parts an maint on 757's. A lot of airlines grounded their 757's as the market changed, so there's plenty of good air frames left, plus a lot of corporate birds with low hours on them as well. Awesome plane, glad to see it get a new lease on life..
1050 made isn’t large production?
The 757 is an incredible aircraft, it’s so powerful and climbs like an absolute beast! The fact that it can operate from short runways close to full capacity with no issues is insane, it’s got good range and is an absolute rocket with RB211’s and I hope it is around for many years to come. Boeing shot themselves in the foot by not upgrading it for the future. The A321LR/XLR is a good modern replacement as it’s the closest thing airlines will get to the 757 (and is a great plane), however the 757 will always win 😍✈️
The fate pf the 757 is in a way very similar to that of the A340. Both were great aircraft of their time, but both sacrificed fuel efficiency for the sake of a product feature that subsequently lost importance.
In case of the A340 it was the back then very restrictive ETOPS regime which made quadjets the necessary means to cross the Pacific (as the 747 had superbly been doing for many years). When regulators eased the ETOPS rules (and twinjets did NOT ditch to the sea in numbers), the quads lost their flair and died in the market. The myth of the 757 fan commmunity is that airlines need their favorite antiquity to operate from hot and high airports - like in South America and the Himalaya. Alone that NO AIRLINE in South America and the Himalaya operates any 757 - or has done so in the last many years.
No mention of type rating. The A321XLR is in the A320 family. Airline can have pilots flying a318 to a321. Major training cost advantage. Like when the 757 and 767 had the same type rating. Too bad the 787 and 797 weren’t developed in tandem with same type rating.
Could it be possible to squeeze some more maximum thrust from the CFM Leap engines used on the XLR?
If you mean to use on the 757. Then the answer is that Boeing is working with GE to scale up the engines for more thrust to be able to be used on a 757.
@@stevenmaree7234 not really... they abandoned the 757 already
That’s for the engineers at CFM to decide
With more fuel consumption maybe.
As of yesterday I guess the A321XLR has crossed 400 orders by itself... According to Boeing the NMA had a potential market of around 3000 - 4000 aircrafts... As long as Boeing delays the NMA this market is surely tilting towards A321XLR.
Very fair and balanced video! 👍🏼
I guess the XLR will only be delivered in 2023/2024, so let us see how the market is developing in the meantime.
But the increasing age of the 757s is forcing more and more carriers to commit with firm orders or risk being left without replacement planes until 2026 or 2027.
Sadly, there is no credible evidence yet that Boeing‘s NMA will be available in any great number before 2026/2027.
It will be great to see when they announce firm specifications.
The race will continue and nothing is lost yet. 🛫
There is a huge shift from wide body aircraft to single aisle. The range increases of both the neo and MAX mean that airlines are able to substitute them on many routes. The A321XLR despite is poster range of 4700NM can realistically connect two airports 4200NM away with 168 passengers and 4600NM with 150NM. With 182 passengers range is about 4050NM.
If a Low Cost Carrier fits in 220 passengers they'll still get 3200-3500Nm which previous neo's couldn't do and they had to use A330/B787/B767. The aircraft can fit in 244 (exit limit) and some Asian LCC will use this.
I suppose that is hard to make a 757 revival, because the production was stopped a time ago, then boeing shouldn't have the old machinery of 757 to produce that again.
I've flown on both the 757 and A321LR transatlantic with Aer Lingus (so the same cabin product). I can confidently say that, as a passenger, the A321 wins. Hands down.
Hydrochloric Acid Thanks for your comment! Great to hear that the newer cabin onboard A321LR wins :) the A321XLR will be even more of a Boeing 757 killer. Thanks for watching and do stay tuned for NEXT weeks Epic comparison :)
What an idiotic and unfair comparison. The 757 was developed in 1982 and the 321LR came just last year with the advantage of all the latest technology. Are you an idiot? And BTW the 757 has an unbelievable safety record, and we don t know what the safety record for the 321 will be.
MultiNaturalice The a320-series has been flying for a long time, so unless Airbus makes the same idiotic wrong choices that Boeing did for the Max, it will be just as safe. The whole point of this video is to compare them, the first a320 was made in 1984 btw which is only 2 years apart, they just updated it’s engines and interior . I don’t think that the op is the idiot, but you’re.
@@vincevanderperre8660 Fuck off you patronizing stuck up snob. I was not asking for your crap.
@@vincevanderperre8660 "Updatet" LOL you can't even spell English properly you clever boy. Now crawl back into your mommy's basement
A321XLR could replace B757-200 perfectly, however, it still can't match B757-300 in terms of capacity. Perhaps Airbus could develop A322XLR to match. However, there won't be many takers for A322XLR
Airbus should make A321XERs Extra extended range A321NEOs. A322XLRs are fake
Petition to re engine 757s! Not necessarily to make new versions like the max, but to simply re engine them make them more efficient. Like that the government does with their 707s and b52s
Amazing video. I think the 757 is hard to beat. Because it;s just the best boeing ever built. Maybe oneday Boeing withh bring out a new version.
Good video thanks.. White titles against cloud are hardly readable. Please yet yellow, or better still, yellow with a black edge.
Michael Pilling Thanks for your comment. So sorry for the text, I will take your feedback into account and use thicker fonts and yellow text in my next videos! Thanks for the feedback
I personally think in the medium sized airliner market there needs to be a similar change in construction methods as we've seen in the B787 and A350 with the use of more composite materials then we would see a real step forward in performance, range and passenger comfort.
For Boeing, yes. But with every A32X Airbus produces, the A32X family aircraft only become more attractive and cheaper for airlines to operate. This is how the 737 became so popular as well. More and more interchangeable parts, more pilots and mechanics already experienced with the aircraft. It's not very exciting for aviation enthusiasts, but a great thing for Airbus and airlines. This way it is also easier for airlines to expand and operating costs to decrease, making medium-haul flights a lot more affordable for passengers. And ask people what they'd rather have; a cheap, regularly comfortable, 5 hour flight or a more expensive, more comfortable 5 hour flight. I think most people would choose the first option.
Airbus has spent 30 years refining the a320 fuselage and taking put weicht. The A321XLS hull is a perfekt compromise of weight, production cost and ease of repair. In this size class of planes, a Carbon fuselage would have very little Benefit.
I hope Boeing in the future will still be a strong competitor to airbus. I know the past year has been tough due to the B737 MAX crashes and that might greatly affect the future of the company. I’ve had some great experiences on their aircraft and will always have a place in my heart.
I have no clue if Boeing will go through with the 797. I’d actually love to see what a concept of a new generation 757 would look like. However, I guess we will just have to see what the airlines will choose.
I always enjoyed flying the 757 very nice plane BUT Boing Boing need to get their shit back together, fire the current incompetent and money focused top managers, return to design and manufacture their planes (not passing the responsibilities to a zillion of companies) otherwise they will be out of the game, they have manufacturing issues since the 737NG that has structural issues, no one trusts them on quality anymore.
Mehdi S all though I hate to say it, you are probably right.
@@Delta_NWAB747fan Here is a documentary from 2011 discussing the issues already found in the 737NG , so Boeing really has not bettered anything, just getting worse ruclips.net/video/vWxxtzBTxGU/видео.html
The XLR I don’t think has enough of a capacity to truly replace the 757 once the designs for the NMA aka 797 comes out I think it will likely be the length of a 737 max 8 but the width of maybe a 787 or a330. So a short wide body
XLR only has slightly less seats than the 757, so it can still replace it.
Nope, the A321Xlr is more efficient as you know.
That's actually one of the attractions. It can fly as far as the 757 without the need to fill as many seats so less chance of flying a half empty plane.
@@crimsaki5273 the 757-300 is longer than the A321XLR so the A321XLR won’t be a replacement for the 757-300, just the 757-200. also Airbus should make A321XERs
@@sorin_ea6 the 757-300 is longer than the A321XLR so the A321XLR won’t be a replacement for the 757-300, just the 757-200. Also Airbus should make A321XERs
Had a chance to watch a TUI short field take off with the 757-200 at JSI.
What this plane requires compared to the A321XLR however could you uprate the engines for the XLR?
Maersk modified a 737-500 to use it on at Vagar so i imagine (hypotheticaly speaking) you can do the same to the A321XLR?
wonder what the fuel cost would be , or if the xlr's engines are scaleable , or at the peak of their design phase without a huge re design, Geared turbine will be interesting to see in action.. PW may team up with someone and make a better core, or licence the fan tech to other companies, supposed to be a game changer..
I think you miss the biggest benefits of the A321 XLR which are that, being part of the A320NEO family, it can fit seamlessly into any fleet which operates A320NEO family aircraft without the need for a dedicated type. This also means it offer huge production economies of scale as it comes off the same production lines as other A320NEO family aircraft. This is where the 797 will struggle vs the XLR
Airbus should make A321XERs
Having ridden in both… the thrust and speed of the 757 is noticeable however, airbus aircraft have a much more comfortable landing.
A 757 with re designed wing natural fiber composite and as well the fuselage is a formidable plane.
Até hoje não existe nenhum avião à altura do 757. The rocket of Seattle is the best.
I am sure Airbus is going to think to the point of the engine's lack of power.
delta decided to replace all 100 of its passenger 757-200s with the regular a321neo. however, you are still correct since delta hasn't decided what to do with there 12 757-300 and 11 NBA charter 757-200s
Rubbish.
Not correct. Delta still thinking about which aircraft is best suited to replace their 757 and 767 fleet their ceo Bastian has stated this publicly. They are trying to work with airbus on a possible reduction in MTOW for the a330 neo. Oh and sorry the guy who posted the video.. you can’t tell people what to discuss and not to discuss. You don’t own RUclips you have merely tried to open a discussion point.
Sorry if I came off that way
@@uwucaffeineaddiction4023 It's cool man, sorry for being rude.
cardude2 awesomeness don’t be sorry. We are all here to have a discussion. The bottom line is all US carriers have an affinity with old aircraft... the only reason is because they can repair them cheaply. Delta is still flying a320 aircraft that are 28 years old! I still prefer delta out of all the US carriers for their check in, food and cabin crew but American has the youngest fleet at 10.7. Boeing are in trouble they have dropped the ball with the 737 max and now the 777x has delay issues which just cost them a $6.2 billion order from Lufthansa cancelling their options. Airbus are silly not sure why they haven’t built a direct replacement of the 757.. it seems to be what a lot of airlines want particularly in the us where they could have gotten 400+ orders from American United and delta
I think if they made an A322; a slightly larger variant of the A321 that has a passenger capacity between 230 & 260 passengers, with a range around 5,000nm, they would corner the market segment that they are targeting
Demetri286 The lack of engine in the >36k Ib thrust class and unwillingness of Airbus to invest in a new high-lift wing or landing gear means that Airbus will not touch that market segment. The current LEAP and Pratt GTF engines will be subject to more wear and tear trying to lift the A321XLR without significant upgrades in seals, turbine and compressor materials.
You will never be able to get 5000nm out of an A321/A322. Unless you only fly passengers with handluggage only. Only possibility is to stretch the A321 XLR by two or three rows with the compromise of loosing range. But most routes dont require then full XLR range so this is worth to consider (A321XLR stretch by a few meters with same MTOW).
A narrow-body "A322" with seating from 240 to 280 passengers is entirely possible, whether it is a completely clean-sheet A3XX or a stretched A321neo with a new wing, fuel capacity for 5,000nm, landing gear and new engines, and will force Airbus to become a willing competitor once Boeing goes forward with the NMA. The key is waiting for the engine manufacturers (Pratt and Whitney, as well as Rolls-Royce), to build new geared turbofan engines capable of thrust levels from 36k to 48k Ibs. of thrust.
@@texasabbott when you need a new Wing for a 280 seat A322 (what you will) you can also develop a whole new Aircraft because you start running into high cost. Also, a 280 seat narrowbody is more than inefficient due to long boarding times and reduced cargo capabilities.
@@texasabbott Airbus should make A321XERs
The A321 XLR is far more than a 757 replacement, it has a longer range and better fuel efficiency. It allows secondary airports to have direct long range flights, without the need to commute at a major hub. Considering the way the 321 XLR is selling, looks like there is a market for that.
The 757-300 is longer than the A321XLR so the A321XLR won’t be a replacement for the 757-300, only the 757-200. There no plans to replace the 757-300
Definitey xlr!
I love both :D
Yep, both are great aircraft! Thanks for tuning in!
@@oneskyflyer it's my pleasure
Great vid
I'm a fan of the 757 for many years. It's the best narrowbody aircraft out there. Flown on both 757 and A321LR. But I have to admit it, the A321 wins here. Lets hope nothing goes wrong with the A321XLR just like those crappy 737 MAX. Boeing needs to get them fixed asap.
For accessibility this video would be better if there was an audio commentary as well as text on screen.
757 can be upgraded for less 30% fuel consumption in this age and era, Gorgeous plain..
This is no comparison. As a passenger would you prefer to sit in the larger seats with much larger windows with more space for onboard luggage than on any other commercial airplane. If yes to any of these things then the A321 wins.
Airlines are all about price/cost... So they have to balance purchase or lease cost V maintenance cost V reliability V pilot costs etc.
Airbus planes are usually more expensive than Boeing planes (can't think why). Also if you already own a plane and the replacement is $60m it is going to take a while to pay back that investment. Anyway currently the only options Boeing could offer to beat the a321xlr would be twin aisle to speed boarding, better cabin pressure (although we do not yet know the Airbus cabin pressure), and cheaper price. A twin aisle pressurised to lower altitude is going to be more expensive to build though.
b757 is widebody or narrow?
Narrow, single aisle
The a321xlr fits in as replacement for the 757-200, but it is not much more than that in terms of capacity with a nominal increase in range.
I think the new Boeing CEO was right to step back and reassess the NMA (797) which is intended to have greater capacity and range than the 757-200 or a321xlr.
For the a321xlr to match what was the goal of the intended NMA it would need a further stretch increasing the weight and decreasing the range. Further, the a321xlr is already lower thrust than the 757-200 so any increase in capacity and weight will require more power (20-25%). Neither the 757 or a321xlr offer the cargo capability that airlines (in particular Asian airlines) wanted.
Clearly from reviewing the data obtained from airlines, the new Boeing CEO feels there is a better, more efficient way to achieve the NMA goals to meet that market segment requirements.
The NMA project is currently dropped...
It is a bit like you use Super Hornet to replace Tomcat, sounds familiar?
Still no real true replacement for the Boeing 757,even though the A321 neo variants are excellent.
Whether the NMA will ever appear is open to question,given the problems at Boeing at the moment..
The A321neo and A321neo LR are also replacement for the B757 as not everybody needs the maximum range. Even the A321ceo is a good replacement for some airlines.
The A330-800 can replace the B757-300.
For the B797, we're still not sure that it will be a MOM airplane. Apparently it might be a 737 replacement.
dufonrafal Thanks for your comment. Well you are right and that is the beauty of the A320neo family, it is a very versatile family with different variants to match the needs of different customers. The A330-800neo is a good aircraft but has relatively high costs per seat compared to -900neo, hence it is not a good choice compared to ultra efficient 797. It also has excessive range of 8150nmi. Airbus could however consider developing a regional variant of the jet though it will be deoptimised compared to regular version. According to Boeing’s CEO, they claim that the MAX will fly for decades to come hence the 797 will probably be a small widebody. It is interesting though to see what kind of aircraft will replace the 737 family. Thanks for watching and if you have not done so do consider subscribing and stay tuned for more great videos!
dufonrefal, you should tell what you said about the A330-800neo to delta
cardude2 awesomeness Thanks for your comment. Well I believe that another US carrier, American was considering the A330-800neo along with the A321XLR for replacing their 767 fleet. They selected the A321XLR to replace 757, but did not select the A330neo to replace 767. That brings me to the point that while the A330-800neo is more than capable to replace 767, as the aircraft got more capable over the years, it now has excessive range of 8150nmi which is unnecessary for airlines. Also, as it is a shrink of the larger A330-900neo, it has high costs per seat compared to the -900 and if airlines do not require the range, the -900 makes more sense, in which case it is too large to replace 767. Reducing the thrust and takeoff weight of A330-800 Neo will not be adequate as the aircraft is de-optimised with gains only on maintenance costs and flight cycles. Hence airlines are probably still waiting for a better alternative which may arrive soon. Till then the 767 is still a sturdy workhorse. Thanks for watching and if you have not done so do consider subscribing and stay tuned for more great videos!
@@oneskyflyer There is rumors of Airbus downgrading the -800 to compete.
@@dufonrafal I like your idea of the new aircraft replacing older aircraft.
A321neo/xlr = 757 replacement
Downgraded A330-800 (lesser range) = 757-300/767 replacement
And especially the 797 = 737 replacement. I would prefer it to be the replacement for airlines who currently ordered 737 max, although it might worked for max8, max9 and max10
Personally I've thought Boeing should have continued with the 717 and 757 over the 737 models. Delta would undoubtedly still be buying newer, more efficient 717s as it would keep them going happily with their MD80 and 90 series (and other 717s) types and could stack up favorably against all the regional jets on the market. The 757 would undoubtedly have gotten modern engines and some tweaks here and there to increase efficiency and make a great aircraft that much better. I get why they were cancelled...at the time neither were selling well...but I cant help but feel like they would have been better positioned in the modern market than the 737.
One problem, the price. I don’t know the price and would like to know in next video
For a used 757?
I love the XLR but im kind of scared for its future.. if Boeing releases the 797 like i mean will the XLR be useless? I have always loved both companies and think they do great work but i love the XLR way more than any Boeing aircraft maybe count away the 777x which is one of my all time favourites.. but anyway i dont want the XLR to end up useless because airlines order the 797 instead because As awesome As the rumored 797 and 757 look i think the XLR looks way better with the mask and engines and everything.
As of yesterday I guess the A321XLR has crossed 400 orders by itself... According to Boeing the NMA had a potential market of around 3000 - 4000 aircrafts... As long as Boeing delays the NMA this market is surely tilting towards A321XLR.
Boeing is delaying the NMA. They don't plan on competing directly anymore. "On 22 January 2020, Boeing's new chief executive David Calhoun announced a clean sheet reevaluation of the project, as the company focuses on existing products and the market shifts away after Airbus launched the popular A321XLR in 2019"
United also commanded 50 XLR
757X with GEnx engines would kick the ass off XLR! Big mistake of Boeing to not restart the production or hopefully soon 797 with a 30 inch walkway! They could make the shorter fuselage that was never built “757 100” replace the 737 800 as well! But yes everything is money money to put in the pocket!
Which is better? No question the 757. Boeing made a huge mistake by axing the 757 and flogging on with dead-horse 737 stretches to try and do the job. The 757 airframe was more modern and more advanced than the 50-60s 737 which is basically a shrunk 707.
Boeing could still reinvent the 757. New engines, new interior and maybe new interior and throw the deathtrap 737MAX on the scrapheap.
The 757 and its wider sister the 767 are quite simply the best things Boeing have ever produced.
Boeing is crap.
they actually dissed boeing saying
“HAHA OUR A321XLR IS WAYYY BETTER BUY IT”
This guy must be joking...stating the number of orders of the A321 XLR as 191.
The truth is there are 2602 firm orders for the A321 neo, LR and XLR combined as august 2019.
There are also 1959 A321 on service as august 2019.
So, the real number is 1059 757 VS 4561 A321 .
rodrigosbsv Thanks for your comment. Yep all variants of the A321neo are extremely popular and it helps that they all share commonality. However I thought that I would compare the XLR variant specifically as this is the top of the line A321neo variant that competes in what Airbus calls the “medium” sized category with its payload and range. Thanks for watching and do stay tuned for more great videos!
@@oneskyflyer did your total for the 757 production include the -300 series? Nonetheless comparing current orders with final output after production ceased is very misleading. It would be fairer to state how many orders both 757-200 and A321XLR had received at launch.
Where’s the audio?
I can’t read while I do stuff.
Unfortunate.
We furriners are used to US videos ignoring the other 95% of the world's population, but this one is a specially bad example. Guys, the commercial success or failure of a new plane is mostly set OUTSIDE the US, especially by the growth markets of Asia and Africa. That is especially so for medium sized airliners with extra long range - for this niche the US is just not the main game.
this video needs to be updated; it is already passe... the xlr has already received more than 450 orders, and the Boeing NMA is nowhere to be seen or heard...
Airbus should make A321XERs and they’ll be a perfect future for the Airbus A321NEO Production and the A320NEO Family. A321XERs would have 4 doors in front 4 over the wing and 8 doors in back with 291 windows and a raccoon mask. The A321XERs would be the worlds longest Airbus narrow body aircraft the Stretched Version of the A321NEO the A321LR and the A321XLR. Airbus should also make A321ERs. A220-500s, and A320NEOPLUSs
I would like the a321neo more if it would be more used to be a aircraft for premium airlines but it will be more used from low cost which gives the plane a bad cabin and service
the XLR is also being purchased by United, American... in large numbers.
Not even fair the 75 was designed in the 70’s but still load up the 321 with freight in a central/Latin American country and see oh wait you can’t it takes a payload hit. The wing is tooo small on the 321. If Boeing got off their asses 7 years ago and made a 75 neo they would be destroying Airbus. But instead they think the 737 max can fill the void lol
I don’t think anything can replace the 757 but the new Airbus is a good contender 🇬🇧
Airbus will increase the size of a321xlr & add extra seats to fill the gap between 757 & a321xlr.
Could reengining the 757 like what Airbus did will add value to this work horse?
Boeing considered this however it would require a complete redesign of the entire structure and from what I’ve read, it’s more cost effective to design a new aircraft.
Boeing can upgrade Boeing 757 into Boeing 737 max 10 ER or B737 -10 ER compete with A321
Air Malta is considering buying the a321xlr to start flights from Malta to the US east coast and Canada.
A321 XLR is awesome and modern 👌👌🎉🎉🍷🍷
The 757 will always be better since nothings better than it blasting from the runway at full power.
How many 757 services required a range the A321XLR can't match? Probably less than 10 percent. Transatlantic flights certainly, but a 767 or A330 would have a lower cost per seat at that range, whereas a 757 would need full fuel tanks divided among not very many passengers (180-190 vs 240-300). Would passengers prefer the cramped seats of a 757 for six hours or the wider seats of a 767 or A330. Underfloor cargo capacity to supplement passenger revenue? A330 thanks. The A321XLR will mostly operate as a sub-fleet within a larger A321neo fleet with airlines, not form the bulk of it. That range also comes with a price tag, and most airlines will find the A321neo perfectly fine for the majority of their single-aisle network
what I like of the 757 is the pair of 4w boggies main landing gear.
Hold your breath folks the Boeing 797 will have two variants the 6x will have 48 windows and the 7x will have 49 windows is closer to Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner
All these new aircraft are becoming futuristic... amazing. But I have to say... the 757 is an amazing aircraft for its age. I would like to see the Boeing first if they decide to make it. But I think airlines have their doubts after the 737 Max. I am a fan of Boeing. I had the chance to fly on 777 when it came out. It was smooth. You could feel the power when it took off. All the aircraft have only gotten better. I have to say... the Germans know their stuff.. either cars or planes... even down to chainsaws... they are tough to beat.
Many thanks from a german but Airbus is the European project. The Boeing management failed catastrophic in the last time but we need both companies for innovation and price stability. Thanks MR
Put new engines on the 757 and it’s game over. Probably squeeze another 800nm out of her. East coast of the USA in Europe with ease full pax and cargo load
There is the much speculated and rumoured A322 being the stretched version of the A321neo seating up to 250 passengers in 1 or 2 class configuration. it is speculated that Airbus has the design but sitting on it until Boeing decides if and when the B797 programme will start.
Something that the video didn't mentioned, Airbus has to 2 cabin layout products for the A320/A321neo family being the squeeze 'them in' Cabinflex and the more spacious Airspace.
Airbus should make A321XERs
@@sebastianfloyd372 The A321xlr is already a long range single aisle aircraft If the A322 ever becomes a reality, the could be a extend range version of.
@@chrismckellar9350 not long enough, I’m talking about Airbus Should make A321XERs and they be perfect for the Airbus future and longer than the A321XLR
@@sebastianfloyd372 - At this stage there is no market using the current A320 airframe for a XLER/ULR, If the A320 airframe is going to be replaced with a clean sheet design airframe which is in the pipeline under the Airbus Zeroe Project .
@@chrismckellar9350 sure it would be, I’m talking about Airbus Should make A321XERs, and they’ll be a perfect future for Airbus. The A321XER would be the Stretched Version of the A321NEO the LR and the XLR.
Boeing stop production of the 757 too soon. I would be in favour of a "757X". I'm sure with some aerodynamic revisions and modern engines the 757X would be more than up to the task of matching the A321XLR. A 15 percent increase in range will bring the 757 reach to about 4500 nautical miles without the center line fuel tank!
Agree with you. They may decide to do that after they have bedded the Max series saga.
They weren't selling many 757s in the last years of its production. They could have built another upgraded 757, but according to Boeings market evaluations it wouldn't have sold. The 757-300 was already a huge disappointment for Boeing with only 55 being made. Like with the A380, sometimes it doesn't matter how good of an aircraft you build, if the market isn't there, you'll lose billions on it.
@@maxdelater3369 Yeah sales did drop. Maybe if they offered an improved version? Great reply Max. Glad there are knowledgeable people viewing these videos.
*757 is the best !!!!*
Uh, not. The 757 is not replaceable , there's no aircraft in the offing that compares. Boeing made the biggest mistake by ending the production. Just needed composite re do, new generation engines and wings. Less expensive than a new aircraft type , and it would sell huge. Hopefully Boeing will go ahead with a 767 re do. The ground clearance and sleek look of the 757 has no competition. Watching it take off out of Jackson hole when I do my summer temporary assignment is just a thing of aerodynamic perfection. The xlr is close but no bananas. Will say the a320 s interior is better as is most of the Airbus aircraft. The a350 is simply unarguably one of the most stunning aircraft in the sky, it's just beautiful.
Thanks for your comment. Yep the 757 had a unique blend of size and range but what gives it the edge over anything else in the market is its reliability and most importantly, performance! The 757 can takeoff fully loaded from any small airport in the United States before landing in any small airport in Europe. Having said that, with airports being upgraded, the XLR with its high lift system should have adequate performance for most routes. Thanks for watching and if you have not done so do consider subscribing for more epic comparisons on the way!
I'm in agreement, the only thing is the airframe was overbuilt , and as such a fair bit heavy.. she was made to take steep take off's, and get slammed on to the runway in hot and high, short strips.. great margin of safety, but a clean sheet re design if you want to lighten it up, but then loose the performance (visa vis A310/ or boeing 720).. then you have a small 767..
Airlines liked em because you couldn't break them, it cruised above other air traffic 40,000 feet, and was hugely over powered , so you could get out of crappy runways mtow on hot days , and have great performance on approach.. you pay for it in fuel.. flew one home from Europe in the 90's , it was small, but RB 211 made a great sound, made the a340 I was on feel like a total slug, but the A/C blew nice n cold on her so comfort was good.. thing looks like a mantis..
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If airline companies bite, maybe there will be a A322? To match with 757-300
A 757-300 replacement would suck. A narrowbody past a certain length would be inefficient in terms of boarding and deplaning.
@@sorin_ea6 Airbus should make A321XER
William Davis: A322 is fake
757-200: A321XLR
757-300: 797/NMA
Well, issue is, there only ever were 55 757-300s built, so that's not exactly what Boeing will be hoping for, if the 797 program ever takes off... Will probably concnetrate on replacing the 797, I think they said in an investor meeting that they'll avoid direct competition, because, they'll be a lot later to the market.
I think the 757-200 is rather in between the A321XLR and 797-7
I can be dumb, however, small airports? Where have it? At least many can handle A321 or even A330
I mean, it's a good replacement for the 757-200, but def not the -300
I think the fact that the B757 is an old generation Airplane, it is obviously the downside, but what about of Boeing responds by making a new B757, it will outbeat the A321 XLR for sure.
Though less than 757 but xlr have enough thrust to takeoff smaller airports.... secondly, its nt 191 but over 1000 orders for xlr till date......
u r way behind bro
How can you compare an aircraft that was last built 16 years ago with a brand new redeveloped aircraft? Doesn't make sense at all.
Furthermore you count all 757-200s ever built vs only the 321LR or XLR instead of all 321s.
I think we can assume that the 797 (or whatever) will not happen any time in the next decade. Boeing has 3 earners: 737, 787 and new 777X
737:
MAX killed the 737 and exposed Boeing to the world its change from aerospace engineer to share marketeer and destroyed most people's confidence in the brand. Boeing is shedding cash at an unsustainable rate and it hasn't even started Class Action claims fro 346 families, refunding of lease payments and loss of earnings from airlines and breach of contract claims. No orders have been cancelled or aircraft returned while Boeing is funding these losses but the day that stops watch the airlines get real nasty.
787:
It will never recoup its development costs despite Boeing using an accounting method that spreads those costs across 'forecast' sales (to create early profits and share price). It is therefore losing some $20 Mn per aircraft right now.
777X:
GE are struggling to deliver their GE9X. The airframe recently failed a mandated stress test where a cargo door blew off and the rear fuselage cracked apart. Amazingly (given the self certification row over the MAX) Boeing initially tried to hide it but have said 'oh it only just failed so its OK'. They have clearly learned nothing about perception in the public's eye. But even if FAA grant certification it will not start earning cash until late 2021. And then carry a 'per aircraft' R & D cost like the 787.
We better not mention the KC-46 boondoggle ...
Boeing is in a shit place of its own making because it was managed by ex McDD money men. What goes round comes round.
Also:
Boeing Starliner has had massive setbacks due to faulty code that might have led to the loss of a crew had the craft been physically piloted.
SLS: Absolute and complete shitshow of a program. This is Boeing at its worst, milking the taxpayer till the last penny. There is no other explination as to why the damn rocket has cost so much when it is practically re-using legacy systems other than Boeing and other contractors deliberately inflating costs and mismanaging the project to earn more money.
450 orders already!
If it can replace the 757 then make a a321XLRF
@@sandiegoavgeek6 Airbus should make A321XERs and they’ll be a perfect future for Airbus and longer than the A321XLR
@@sandiegoavgeek6 it’s A321XER ruclips.net/video/vX-p4EGOI4Q/видео.html the A321XERs would be a perfect future for Airbus and their not the a322. The A321XERs would have 16 doors and 291 windows so remember that Airbus should make A321XERs
797 is postponed again, so some companies will have to take XLR.
Of course it's a natural replacement.
757-plus
Wait for the 767x, but if they make a 757x dang then the whole competition will be wiped out.
Aviator C - There will be an entirely new aircraft, the NMA, with 2-3-2 seating.
The competition will be wiped out? Only if the competition takes seat in Crash Airways new boing when it inevitably hits the ground... again.
The 787 has replaced the 767
I Bo if I were you I would shut up
Hydrochloric Acid there are claims Boeing is coming out with a new 767X...
The 757 has more power to weight and a higher cruising and climb speed speed
Don't wait. Tomorrow is now, only in Europe.
As a Boeing fan. I think that the a321xlr wins here
Anybody ever flown in the back of a 757-300? Not a great experience
But don't forget that the 797 might be better than the XLR.
Robert Xing Um A321xlr Is better
Robert Xing Thanks for your comment. Yeah given that Boeing is late to the market, they will be able to build an aircraft that is better than the A321XLR is virtually everything range performance efficiency for this segment etc. However customers will pay more in the short term as the list price of such a capable aircraft will certainly be high. Thanks for watching and if you like this video do consider subscribing and stay tuned for more great videos!
William Jones-Halibut Thanks for your comment. Well the 797 is a wide body and will definitely be heavier as it actually fits in between the 757 and 767-200. It should be designed with composites though to reduce some weight. I believe that when the 797 is launched it will certainly have performance similar to or if not even better compared to the XLR, though with additional costs for airlines. Thanks for watching
@@oneskyflyer in terms of performance, it'll depends on which aspects you look into. The NMA being a new plane from the drawing board will most definitely offer better cabins, larger windows, higher cabin pressure etc. It will also most certainly feature a bigger wing for better payload & field performance and a large enough fuel tank to make its range more superior than the A321XLR. However if we were to look in terms of fuel burn per trip and fuel burn per passenger of the NMA, the best possible outcome is that the NMA matches the fuel burn per passenger of the A321XLR. This does not take into account the higher crew cost and airport landing fees which would ultimately attribute to a higher CASM for the NMA. Coupled with the higher purchase price of the NMA, boeing will need to give really steep discounts in order to attract sufficient orders for the smaller NMA variant.
The overall success of the NMA now hinges on the success of the larger NMA variant as a true replacement for the B767 aircraft and opening up new markets. However I'm highly sceptical about it due to the 4500nm range previously speculated. Unless an ER variant is introduced to the NMA, I doubt the NMA will be able to outperform the A321XLR.
@@alexmercer7687 I'm astonished that you can see the future and therefore can compare A321XLR to an airplane that currently doesn't even exist on paper (at least publicly).
Interesting content, but the music is atrocious
I think the a321xlr will be for those extremely low demand semi long haul routes and not a replacement of the 757. The upcoming 797 will be for flights with more demand than the capacity of the a321xlr
Joshua 윤호 Han Thanks for your comment. Yep I agree and both aircraft can add value for an airlines. I think that American will place orders for both the A321XLR to replace 757 and 797 to replace 787-8 on routes with less range. Thanks for watching and do consider subscribing if you have not done so for more great videos on the way!
@@oneskyflyer I will Love to fly on The A321XLR's fa sure Plus JetBlue & many other Airlines are buying them I can't wait to see them Launch for 2023.
Karlos Sargeant Thanks for your comment. I myself am also very excited to see the A321XLR enter service with airlines in 2023. It will be interesting to see what new routes the A321XLR will open up around the world. Thanks for watching and if you have not done so do consider subscribing and stay tuned for more great aviation content!
@@oneskyflyer I would do the math on how much money airlines would waste on extra fuel and extra cost of maintenance of older 757 (before the 797 is actually finalized, tested, certified and ready for delivery.. + the queue until you get yours) vs just upgrading to a321 xlr (especially considering that many of the 757 companies also have a320 in their family.. should be easier) much faster! We're talking millions of dollars each year and that adds up fast!
one other thing.. you can't say the a321 burns 30% less fuel.. and then say the 757 burns 30% more... it's not the same! if the 757 is at 100... the a321is at 70 but then if you take the 70 and add 30% you get to 91 :) see the math error?